F1 Honda RA300 V-12 John Surtees 1967
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- HONDA RA300 1967
ENGINE：Water Cooled 4st 90°V-12 DOHC 4Valve Gear Train
Max Power：Over 420ps / 11,500rpm
Lola T90 Indy Class Light Alloy Monocoque Body with Sub-Frame.
HONDA RA300：
The 2nd year F1 regulations increased engine displacement to 3000cc, this machine gave Honda its 2nd F1 win with a victorious debut in the Italian GP,Round9 of the 1967 F1 World Chanpionship.
Italian GP winner, Driver：John Surtees.
昭和42年 1967年
F1世界選手権のエンジン排気量が3000ccに変わって2年目。
第9戦イタリアGPでデビューウィンを飾り、HondaF1に2勝目をもたらした。
優勝車：No.14 J.サーティース
前年のＲＡ２７３が思ったほど成績を残せない（最高位３位）のでホンダは終盤にＲＡ３００を投入
シャーシは当時インディに使われていたローラＴ９０をベースにして改良これにより２０㎏以上の軽量化と４２０馬力以上の高出力で戦いました
ＲＡ３００はテストらしいテストをせずにサーキットに運び込まれた結果、燃費がわからなかった為フルタンク状態でスタートしたが、フィニッシュした時には3リッターしか残ってなかったモンツァでの勝利には、こんな裏話も残っています
ジョン・サーティースがＲＡ３００のデビュー戦を優勝で花を添えた
全長×全幅×全高 3,955mm×1,788mm×845mm
エンジン種類 水冷4サイクル90度V型12気筒DOHC
排気量 2,992cc
最高出力 over 420PS / 11,500rpm
最高速度 over 350km/h
車両重量 590kg（'67 Italian GP: 610kg）
サスペンション（前） ダブルウィッシュボーン
上:溶接ロッキングアーム、下:Aアーム（リーディング）
サスペンション（後） ダブルウィッシュボーン
上:Iアーム、 下:逆Aアーム、ダブルラジアスアーム
撮影日：2012/11/4(sun)
撮影場所：Honda復活祭 Honda R&D Co.,Ltd AutoMobile R&D Center HG-P
Movie iPhone5
Photo Canon EOS-1D Mark Ⅳ & EF28-300L IS USM
By hide_tuned_engines
That is when F1 was special. No wings, no sidepods, no drs. Just the chassis, and engine, suspension setup and driver skill.
The aspect I love about the F1 cars of the 1960s is that they were distinctive characters. No mistaking a Ferrari from a Honda from a BRM from a Lotus from a Brabham and from a Cooper.
Same here with Le Mans Prototypes, they all look like awkward twins. I've mistaken a Porsche with an Audi once.
@@Panzer_Runner With my inexperienced eyes when it comes to top-tiered sports car racing coupes over the past 35 years, it was very difficult to tell the difference between: Jaguar, Toyota, Nissan, Mercedes, Honda, Aston-Martin, Porsche, Audi, Mazda, Lexus-Riley, Chevy-March, Spice . . . the list could be endless of all the slim variations of racing sports car coupe designs that have raced from the 1980s to the present.
In 1967, no mistaking the differences between: Ford GT 40 Mk IV, Ferrari P4, Chaparral 2F, Lola T70, and Porsche 910.
The rule book used to be a half-page long, which left lots of room for creativity. I think it was Adrian Newey who said modern cars are designed by the rulebook.
Or an Eagle... Dan Gurney fan here!
1960s was probably one of the if not THE golden age for F1
Some people call it a dark era of F1 becuase all of the cars were just complete coffins on wheels. There were a LOT of crashes, and really really bad ones at that.
@@tomemacyt.1524 Also in the seventies, but than the cars were coffins with wings and sponsors all over them. 67 was the last year of the golden age.
Not in terms of safety... As much as every era of F1 is exciting in it's own right, up until the 80's we've lost so many drivers that would come out of these crashes without a scratch with todays technology. It started getting better later.
That was long time ago when Honda was in the early stages. But now, Honda is getting better together with Red Bull & Max Verstappen, they dominated the whole 2021 & 2022 season.
Crazy how an underestimated company like this become a monster (that could devouring Ferrari, Mercedes, etc.) as the time goes on.
What an ageless beauty she is.
The Hondas were truly beautiful
Maaan, my fave f1 cars. You can have the new stuff all you want
V12's always sound like ass at low RPM. However, they always sound spectacular at full song. One time, I heard what I thought was a Pinto with a cracked exhaust manifold pulling into the shop. When I looked up, it turned out to be a Lamborghini Countach.
I 🧡 how alot of the 60s F1 cars are simply works of ART. Then someone hits the starter and Beast within awakens. So beautiful 😍 and so Deadly at the same time! 🏎🏁👍
ホンダRA300名車です❗️
この時代空力がさほど重視されてなかったのにフロントサスペンションのダンパーをインボードにした事により全体的に非常にスマートなデザインになった。
次のRA301,RA302では不幸な出来事もあったがのちのホンダ黄金時代を築く礎となったマシンと思います。
*John Surtees personal gift to Ferrari:*
- Date: 10 September 1967
- Location: Monza, Italy
- Event: the Italian GP
_"Yeah, remember me?......"_
The greatest Formula 1 car of all time. What a masterful piece of engineering & mechanical art. Thank you for sharing :)
I built the large Tamiya model of this car many years ago. Routing the 12 plug wires and exhaust was the toughest model part that I ever did!
its so unnecessarily aggressive, even at stand still. i really want to replicate a 67/68 F1 car..
Is this one of those HONDAS made with Magnesium body panels?
@@HighLiner15 no. the RA302 was made in magnesium. Jo Schlesser Rouen 1968
The "nest of snakes" exhaust system of this car...and the other V12 engines of the era...were works of art in themselves.
5-speed automatic
What was a five-speed auto? The 'box in this was manual.
戦後の復興を乗り越え、世界に追い付こうと必死になっていた時代に、このマシンはどれだけの夢と希望を与えたんだろう。
いつまでも大事に保管して欲しいマシンです。
That head-on image of the F1 Honda does a nice job to capture the treaded tires they raced on back then; where a single set of tires had to last the entire race distance, as there were no pitstops in that era.
The exhaust system is pure artwork
Everything is a art on this masterpiece.
I agree, but take a look at the pipes on the 67 Gurney/Weslake F1 Eagle, in titanium
8:13
この生き物を彷彿とさせるエキパイの取り回しよ😍。
Now imagine these events with electric cars. People would be asleep.
Was watching an onboard video of an electric car, I fell asleep. I will miss these sounds when electric cars take over, might aswell enjoy it now.
I cant believe how throttle responsive it is!!!!!!
At the start I was thinking this is a nice looking car/piece of art then the engine fired up I was like holy crap the beast is awake. Would have been nicer if the driver opened the throttle some more and went through gear box during the demo run.
sounds like my ‘74 civic just before the engine seized
Yes! That's MUGEN TypeR sound.
Next to it is Mclaren from Ayrton Senna? If so, two beautiful Honda machines. Senna and Surtees, two legends. RIP
Now that's what music should sound like!
I love those golden exhaust pipe covers.
I'd give a million for one...
この車の横で、中村良夫さんの解説を聞けたなら、どんなに素敵なシーンだったろうな！
映像としての1967年イタリアＧＰは何処から見られますでしょうか?。色々探しておりますが
That sound is insane, and I thought 2 stroke multi's were wild sounding..
当時のホンダにはN360 とS800しか無かった。これでF1で勝った事が今では奇跡です。
Incredible!
Such an under-appreciated F1 machine
Probably because it didn't win much
@@stephenscholes4758 Rob Walker didn't "win much" with the Lotus 49. And Chris Amon was an under-appreciated driver for Ferrari. So that means he was not good? Amon never won an F1 race, so that means he was not good, to you I guess.
I miss formula 1 cars that driver actually had t drive. A car with more power than grip.
Hay algo más lindo que estos v12 de los '60?
Yes❗️ DOHC V 12 2997cc @1967y
Incredible sound😍
Fantastic machine. Thanks for providing the specifications and history as well. Good job. : )
These cars had to be driven. In todays F1 an overpaid fairy controls an electronic interface.
There is no traction control, abs, stability management, or active suspension in formula 1 anymore. The low torque the f1 cars always suffered from has been fixed with electric motors in the lower rpms that shut off in the higher rpms as the internal combustion engine gets into its powerband. They are also pushing about 1000hp now.
The only area a modern f1 car is easier is that they are paddle shift but they pull such high G forces due to the aerodynamics and tire technology now that taking your hand off to shift and still be able to turn (they don't use power steering) isn't really possible. Especially not under braking. You are thinking of the 90's when Williams had active suspension and traction control and various assists were allowed. That no longer exists and the cars are mechanical turbocharged beasts with torquey electric motors making it feel like it has a v8 in the low rpm range.
Isto é um carro de verdade!
That idle sounded ugly, but at full chat it sounded great...nothing like a V12.
Actually i love that terrible idle of those high rpm racing engines... so rough, brutal, primitive
1967 y ese ruido a v12 es lo mejor
That is insane !
RIP...MR HONDA.
incredible machine!!!!
目の前で聴いたら涙出るね✨
そうなんです！ 体で聴くという表現がぴったりです。
@@HideTunedEngines さん
ホンダV12はまだ生で聴いた事無いんですが、マツダのR26Bを聴いた時は泣きました(笑)
Microphone overwhelmed! :)
Sorry about not so good sound、I feeled supper body sonic、of course feel good for me.
The second clip midway through has better sound quality.
Who needs no stinking computers! 450hp from 3 litres, on mechanical FI.
Hon-Lola. the chassis was made by Lola
I recall reading a motorsport publication from back in the day, that the Lola chassis lightened the Honda by some 200 pounds/91 kilos.
@@bloqk16 Yes, it's true
It was called the Hondola. If I remember right, it was based on a Lola Indy chassis. Seems wrong to see any other helmet behind the wheel than Fearless John Surtees'.
音を体から感じ、奮い立たせてくれる最高の雄叫びを聴いた感じでしたよ。 チャンスがあれば、この為、だけに足を運ぶ価値があると思います。
ほんま内燃機関は、いいよね～。
最近の電気自動車やハイブリットには無い魅力だね。
Como a todo lo japones mi mas profundo respeto y admiracion!
That's a car
That's right！ You good.
Retro car + modern helmet = no go!
Yes ! I think so , too.
maybe the driver plans to stay alive in case of an accident...
JS N That helmet isn’t gonna do much if that car gets in a massive wreck
This is amazing!
Honda❤
Isso sim é um F1
Viva honda 😁😁😁😁
Holy Shnikeys
エンジンのスタートボタン押す人、押す前に、ニカーって子供か！楽しそう。おい！仕事中やぞ。
銀河哲朗
好き者としてはコレで給与が発生するとか羨ましくてたまらん。
I just Shit my pants.. that thing is so loud!
indle at 1500rpm
Lovely sound - but the DFV was lighter, and more powerful.....
Yes！ DFV 👍 and shortstroked DFW 2.5L engine sound soooo beautiful❗️
@@HideTunedEngines ... always loved that engines sound too!
I have this model car...paid way too much for it....j.s.
Was it that giant sized Tamya? I too built that model and still have it. Was great to learn about the engineering that way. I recall the plug wires were especially difficult to route perfectly.
@@BritIronRebel no mine is 1.20 scale..I believe it is tamya
@@rustyshackelford6972 I'm not so good on scales but it's about 10 inches long??
Is this in private hands or still in Honda’s possession?
Keep in Honda correction-hole. Off course Still running condition.
Since the mechanics have Honda on their jackets , its safe to assume that
this car lives at The Honda Collection Hall .
Checkout the Honda 250 cc Six . It sounds awesome .
@@paulfuller8985 some of the mopeds and smaller motorcycles from 1960's and 70's rev to unbelievably high numbers.. Honda really are the king of rpm
@@mortenfrosthansen84
They certainly were in F1 during the 1980's
1:27
AHHHHHHHHHHH
carburetor sound❗️
@@HideTunedEngines No carburetor in this engine
Is that Mr. Honda?
They're a staff in Honda collectionhole.
@@HideTunedEngines You totally didn't see Mr. Honda's ghost watching?
工業機械のエンジン音だな、
Is that the machine Surtees refused to drive ?
No, that was 308. Sadly, his team mate Jo-Louis Schlesser lost his life driving the 308 in the 1968 French Grand Prix.
Darkwell0071 awesome sound
@@mikloslipcsey7923 It was the RA302. An air cooled engine and a magnesium body. Sadly nobody told the marshalls not to use water on the fire - magnesium reacts fiercely upon contact with water - so the fire was made much worse by their efforts to quench it.
ホンダr1の翼はどこにいくのだろう
LAWAN HAYAO MIYAZAKI.
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Running it without a driver on the brake is ridiculously dangerous amongst all those people.
How is it dangerous? Car isn’t exactly going to jump into gear with them warming it up without someone depressing both the clutch and putting it into a gear?
@@Altostratus1992 World wide, racing has rules for this situation to prevent runaway vehicles from killing & injuring people. You apparently have limited knowledge of racing rules & transmissions, as do the people in this video.
@@nzsaltflatsracer8054 By all means please enlighten us as to how this car will get into first gear and turn into a run away death machine without any outside assistance?
Well thankfully you've registered your righteous indignation, and the internet... neh, the world... is now a better place
For me it's quite normal to warm up without a driver using throttle body. Mecanics of Ferrari V12 was my favourite to create nice music.
Over 350 km/h???
+Borsófőzelék Piskótakockával propably not. But 300 km/h easy
Vollmer Tobias I don't know what is your opinion, but to my mind it's a bit sahme on today's F1 that the top speeds didn't changed for many and many years.
world.honda.com/goodwood/2005/machines/ra300/
+HideTunedEngines Wow, that's cool!
I need to say that back then they NEVER used a gear ratio that can run 350 km/h! They barely can steer while at 1/4 throttle in third gear
7x2=14 --_-" 🍚 🍝 🐠 🍻
Shame the microphone is fucking shit
So sorry. @iPhone5 Yes. Range Over.
Real sound is excellent. I feel brain, body & ear.
拍手起きとるやないか！見せもんちゃうぞ！いや、見せもんやった。
Nearly unwatchable.
**LET'S REVIEW**
1) purpose of the video: car not on the track; car with engine running to show off engine
2) sound quality: extremely unprofessional
It's easy to check, with modern video gear, the aural dynamics of microphones, e.g. their "faithful reproduction of sound".
Why tease everyone with "listen to this cool V12" then have no sound. "Here's some cool noise! Hah hah made ya look!"
Good gawd.
Video maker name has been noted.
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Isso sim é um F1