Episode 276: Evaluating Dolphins Early Draft Picks
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- Опубліковано 2 жов 2024
- Alain Poupart and Omar Kelly break down all angles of the second round of the 2024 NFL draft from a Dolphins angle, and whether they made the right choice, discuss what's ahead on the third and final day of the draft, and more. As a reminder, you can follow Omar at @OmarKelly and Alain at @PoupartNFL.
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Best of luck Omar in your future endeavors. Alain, I love your perspective and hope you continue to grow the platform. You're an incredibly important voice in the Dolphin community.
It's the end of an era. You guys have been my favorite and the best podcast on my Miami Dolphins. This is bittersweet, but I do want to wish you all the best in your future endeavors. I will be following you both in this next phase of life. 🐬🤙
Drafting an LT to replace Armstead next season was MIA's No. 1 need. Good free agent LTs are rare and expensive. This was a deep OT draft and gives the pick a redshirt year.
IOL has not been a *need* since the Dolphins signed LG Wynn, OC Brewer and RG Driscoll. Sounds like Grier wants to upgrade one of the OG spots, but reportedly has a free agent (Risner?) as a backup to accomplish that.
I suspect the Dolphins would have liked to start their rookie at LG before moving him outside next year to accomplish both of the above goals, but there were only one or two prospects in this RT heavy class which could have pulled that off. PIT snapped up MIA’s best option at 20.
Paul is a man mountain with elite physical traits, but needs significant work on his technique, especially in run blocking. Significantly, Paul is a three year LT veteran in a class full of RT’s. The Dolphins did a great deal of due diligence on this prospect at the Senior Bowl/Combine and appear to be convinced they can coach him up. Remember, OL coach Butch Barry turned Austin Jackson from a probable cap cut to a RT rock given a contract extension in a single season.
Getting someone to learn from armstead for 1+ years is absolutely mandatory to success.
Thank you! Yours are words of reason. It's a draft and develop approach. This is the way preached by the most successful of franchises.
Omar is on fire this episode💯 This PPaul pick should be evaluated against passing blue chip guards Haynes or Beebe
Poup dont bring in another partner. Go the route of special guests; assures flexibility. You and Omar definitely had chemistry! All the best Omar!
Omar best of luck and wishes on going back to the Harold. Was so glad you guys teamed up after watching y’all with big o, its a shame all good things end but we will still support you both.
Good morning fellas, I have been spoiled 276xs and I LOVE this podcast! But between the players drafted on "potential" and my favorite podcast duo coming 😢 to an end I'm not in one of my better moods today. God bless you both and I rarely say that because I'm not particularly religious. Thank you both for your expertise and excellence. I HATE Griers picks it would be different if we were a good playoff caliber team but this team has so many holes and we're not addressing them DT, RG, WR, S. ✌️
Good luck Omar with your new position I’m sad you guys are not doing this podcast but I know it’s all about the family. I will still follow you guys and good luck Alain.
Gonna miss y’all’s partnership Think I’ve watched 99 percent of your casts mad respect on both your Dolphins insights
I was very impressed with Paul, smart kid and great vibe.
What’s the F@#$ing deal with developing players, when you don’t resign them????? The Dolphins have a long history of NOT resigning their own developmental players……l
Omar you better stop flip flopping and settle down, if you and Alain started this pod if both of yall own it, ride it to the big time just saying My brother, we understand if you went ownership to bigger and better Salute
Remember Big Soft aka Big O said yall wouldn't make it 🤔
We are definitely going to miss "The family" and having you two discuss football for/with us.
I'm excited to see what is next.
Like this comment if you would like a Solo host show with just Alain!!! I’m here for it!!!
boo 🍅
@@theshogunblaze3656 cry
Skip and Shannon breaking up again? Nooooo!
Sad to hear this team is breaking up. Great job guys, it won’t be the same but hope this podcast continues in whatever new format.
Good luck Omar, and I need to know your new podcast site
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I’m selfish saying I wish you’d stay with this, but I want what’s best for both will miss this
When he was drafted, AJ was profiled to be a better fit in a wide zone blocking scheme, because of his impressive athleticism and physical traits. He was just very raw and needed good coaching. Which it took a while for that to show up.
I think the reason they picked Chop is because the gap between the best Tackle left on the board at 21 and what they projected to be left at 55 was much smaller than the gap between Chop Robinson and the best edge guy they projected to be left at 55. And on the plus side, the Paul kid has already been working with the guys at O Line Mastermind, the group T. Stead put together with some other guys around the league to help coaching the big guys up front during the offseason
NBC’s Chris Simms on Chop Robinson: They’re going with the physical freak who didn’t produce.” Can Fins coaches change this narrative?
Will miss this podcast. Although I always didn't always agree with Omar, he did make me consider different viewpoints. Wishing Omar the best going forward with work at the Herald. Poup looking forward to your new podcasts??
yo is this podcast finishin i watch most episodes i didnt hear this or jus pay attrntion to that part?
The podcast is NOT going anywhere. It will just have a new format starting next week.
Alain ... off topic but it seems media & fans are assuming Conner Williams is absolutely not returning. To my knowledge, his camp nor the Fins have indicated a return (via FA) is out of the question. Do you have any insight or opinion on the matter?
Chop is a top 3 percentile in athletic score all time for edge players. Every pk needs to development.
Are we sure Paul doesn’t contribute this yr? I mean Armstead & Jackson arent exactly the pillars of the health care sys, nor is our LG.
Loved your podcast guys Phinfan from down under here. Will miss you guys as part of my dailty routine. Omar you got 1 of your man crushes Mohamed Kamara coming to Miami!!
MARK CLAYTON SHOULD'VE BEEN IN THE HALL OF FAME 20 YRS AGO .. HE WAS AWESOME!!!! BY FAR, MY FAVORITE DOLPHIN ALL TIME 🔥🏈
The frustrating part of this organization is throwing away draft picks going all in and now they pick a project in rounds 1 and 2. What the heck are they doing? Is Grier just making it known his job is permanent no matter what. So confusing
You guys have mended my heart with this podcast since my ex cheated, now you guys ripped it apart again but for good reasons. I’ll have a lot more to watch. You guys are awesome & good luck to both
Omar you missed your calling, comedy! Tua taking the next step, hilarious 😂
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Also like jaylen wright pick at 4.3 speed with achane wow talk about explosive
Moving forward, Is there a contractual reason yall couldn't do a show (or a few shows) together once in a while? How bout; when Miami starts the playoffs run
I disagree with Chop being a developmental player, he's more raw and inexperienced than the other 3 top edge rushers that went off the board, but he's going to play early and often this season. I don't think we have much of a choice but to play him with the lack of depth at the position. Paul is more experienced, but his technique and fundamentals need refinement, who's to say how quick he can learn and get on the field? I don't see as easy of a path to playing time for him, but it's not out of the realm of possibilities. I wrote this while you guys talked about it, I'm with Poupart that he'll play. Is it also possible the team is going into this season with the understanding that we need to get younger at certain spots, and these young guys are only going to get better and gain experience by actually getting on the field?
in 2024 you need a 1st down pass rusher, 12 teams passed 60% of time or more on 1st down in 2023. no one ran more than passed. i just question a guy that somehow didnt get sacks in college.
No no no...Austin Jackson improved more than anyone...and you guys have dogged him from day 1 ( so its ok to say that you are wrong sometime lol its ok ) ##FinsUp
If they wanted to draft for the future, why is Ramsey, Chubb, and Tyreek still there? They should have moved all of the big $ players
Reshad Jones didnt develop with Miami, he was already a well developed gem when we drafted him out of Georgia, if anything he should have been better but our coaching was not good enough at the time, our coaching now is way better for development of players
Nothing is worse than being a middle of the pack team that always just misses out on great players and then reach for a player that won't play instantly. Grier has an alarming amount of busts / mediocre picks. He sucks but keeps on getting a pass.
For how bad Grier has been drafting overall, can Ross hire someone that knows the strengths and weaknesses of the team? Let someone else make the picks that will actually contribute to winning and not warming the flipping bench
2 issues 1. there were day 1 rdy players available at needed positions. 2. we have a habit of developing players then letting them go once they develop rather than pay them after investing all that time in them..
Yes because terron armstead does not participate in training camp Doesn't mean he won't be there. To help coach up these young players
Hey Omar if the guy is such a good drafter where’s all the good draft picks?
Brock Purdy is evidence that you can get good players in the later rounds Mr. Irrelevant
Flo was the developer coach. We fired him for a fat kid w a bad attitude and work ethic and a bum GM. Sad
Omg will definitely miss you guys. Wish you all the best. Will be following you guys.
Omar & I both said it at the same time!! 8th round??!!
❤️ M Clayton!
Very few pass rushers come in and are elite from a technique perspective…most all have to make refinements
common denominator over 20+ years of talent evaluation is greer.
So first we lost salt and pepper on the defensive line and now we losing salt and Pepper on the podcast too?
Flores developed players through fear…and only on the defensive side
The ending of a dynasty that never got to be. 🤷🏽♂️
Love mo kamara pick l like him more than chop robinson
Alan you will have to do the show along and bring in some guests you will not let this podcast die.
Zero chance I let the podcast die … none.
And thanks
Poup you would do great solo! Let’s run it lol
Did Tua's brother get drafted?
Nobody knows what is going to happen.
I hate that Expo hat let it go already move on dude
Why do you guys always complain. I have never heard the Dolphins say we are playing for a Superbowl this year. I only hear the media. I like the way they are building over the last couple of years. Enjoy this time
Why do WE always complain? Gotcha. Also, the Dolphins brass maybe has never said they're playing for a Super Bowl, but dishing out big money to land players like Hill, Ramsey, Armstead and Chubb doesn't happen if you're not going all in for a Super Bowl. That should be pretty obvious.
Alan and Big 0???
Hell to the nooooo..
Perk or Hyde
Expo hat guy too negative for me
Great no more Expo hat guy
26:23 What they really needed was players who gives potential for a significant impact, if it gets asked of them later in the season… And no I don’t see T.Stead out there doing practice reps. He gonna have a clipboard a whistle and a water bottle, just directing the sweat equity orchestra. 😂😂
What about Alain doing the solo podcast and having guest co-hosts including fans, other podcasters, ex-players, etc? I’d sign up for an “audition”!
Dam I’ll miss this combo 😢
I will miss y’all too, man. The chemistry grew with each episode. And I like other podcasts I observed it seemed like you guys were doing it for money and it wasn’t chemistry. That’s the nice way of Puttin it
We were doing it for money and it wasn't chemistry?
@@alldolphinspodcast I know and I was like why are they sitting here putting up with this clown but I get it got hove topay the bills. But still I used to get so mad but I wouldwatch the episode because you guys. But I hated the back-and-forth. I’ll just wanted you guys to just say some real slick but you guys were professional. I was cussing the screen out for you guys..🫡
If Paul has a really good camp do you think there is any chance Armstead moves to guard given the leader he is
With our coaches/players first two pics will be big impacts….
Omar, do you regret leaving the Sun Sentinel?
Who cares who they could've drafted. You can play that game with every team. Grier, McDaniel and Weaver got 2 players they targeted and wanted. That's all that matters. The Patrick Paul pick is for 2024, not 2025. Terron missed 7 games last year, 4 in 2022 and 8 in 2021. So, the Big Fella should see plenty of action. I think both picks are Great.
That's fine, but please stop with the "got 2 players they targeted and wanted" ... EVERY SINGLE TEAM IN THE HISTORY OF THE NFL ALWAYS SAYS THEY GOT THE GUY THEY WANTED. It means nothing.
Yes they got Charles Harris and Dallas Turner
@@alldolphinspodcast I choose to believe the GM and Coach who were a part of the entire process and in the war room. I don't think you were a part of that process or in the war room. So, trying to discredit that means nothing
Can you get someone on the Podcasts that actually knows what they’re talking about. And you don’t have to constantly correct them. Omar was certainly entertaining but constantly negative and argumentative just for the sake of being argumentative.
Alan, I think you have an interesting take on things and are intellectually honest about the current state of the team. I think it would be helpful to have someone on that. Also falls in line with that.
Omar how much they paying you to leave? What if we can match it to keep you on the podcast?
At work today,and couldn't wait to hear y'all opinions on that giant we got????
If the Dolphins do not do well this year, both Grier and McDaniels will be in the hot seat.
Alain, how about ODN
One Dolphin Nation
What happened to the proposed fines for Philadelphia and Atlanta?
I wanted Guard Zack Zinter from Michigan
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Im so tired of Grier. Other gms have been fired for less. Who many rebuilds do this guy get? Watching McDaniels facial expressions, I dont think he likes these picks. Why do we like projects all the time. Im tired of some people giving Grier a pass. I think a lot of Miami media doesn't hold Grier feet to the fire. Love you guys!!!
I have been a Grier defender this whole time.... After this draft let's fire hime! Absolutely reaching twice with very few pics and no trade backs. It feels like he is trying to sabotage the team
Chop Robinson has bust all over him! 😢😢😢
They basically drafted.Charles Harris and Jonathan Martin all over again.
I get it, Grier has no credibility since we haven't won anything in so long, but it's premature to call these guys bad picks. They haven't even put on their jerseys yet.
@@Phoenix114that’s dumb as hell 😂 completely different players
Roman wilson got drafted already
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Hey… 👋
Peace
we used our 3 first round picks in the last 4 years on edge rushers and draft a LT that will be 3rd on the depth chart . 24 years without a playoff win (most in PRO SPORTS) and 16 without a division title Do we really have a Super Bowl window
Shut up I'm tired of all you idiots complaining go find another team
I started watching yal a little more now and I just left Lenox Mall I realize I'm old very old
Miami..... You need to draft Ray Davis and Rice.
Alain and Douglie next?👀
3rd. Lol
Good Morning Phinz Up
If patrick paul is a project its in run blocking. Name a better pass pro from this draft ill wait?
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Blake ferguson was not a bust
First name stat is wrong! Austin Jackson!
Yeah because South Beach is a good place for guys with baggage. C'mon guys
You're assuming all baggage involves partying too much.
Lol, dolphins d9nt have a SB roster. It doesn't even have a playoff roster at this point given the upgrades by other AFC teams
Love the show, Poupart! Will be refreshing not having to hear someone crap on the team so much in the future 🙏