I second this. Torque sensor gives you not only better feel and more opportunity to exercise (max assist requires only a little effort with a motor as strong as this one), but much better control of the bike. With a cadence sensor, especially ones with speed-setting PAS versus current/power, the huge surge of power through a high-torque motor can make controlling the bike difficult, even making you fall (I did twice before I adjusted the speed targets for PAS 1 and 2 very low, and that bike has only a 48V motor with a peak torque of 85Nm, not 100Nm like this new Ocelot). For high torque motors, a torque sensor system gives you much better control. Once you get up to speed, you can switch over to cadence sensor mode. That brings up this question: what style of PAS does this bike use when in cadence sensor mode? Does each PAS level set a speed target (and surgey arbitrary power curve) or an amount of current/power sent to the motor?
Comment!!russ, I bought the same mirrors you use,they work great.for now on I am buying all my accessories from your affiliated links . You know quality .thank you😊🤠🇺🇸😁👍
Magicycle has always produced high quality products. This new Ocelot Pro 2.0 is no different with the switch to and from torque to cadence sensor whenever you want. It's a great unique feature. Looking forward to more updates from Magicycle.
Can you mount a bottle holder to the front rack mount holes (assuming you don’t have the front rack)…? I wondered if the screws would align. Been meaning to get a holder and try it but currently I just bungee the bottle to the rear rack.
I don’t believe they will line up. I have mounted bottle holders to the rear rack of many bikes though. Just zip tie the holder to the side of the rear rack. 😊
Hey Russ, that is a different phone holder you have there, are you pleased with it? I had a bad experience with one of the 3 Lamicall phone holders breaking. If it's a good one, share the link with us please. Thanks.
I have not experienced any of my Lamicalls break. This is the one I currently use the most. I move it from bike to bike because of the big clamp and adjustability: amzn.to/4bspnlF
@@RussIsRight Thank you very much for sharing what you know with all of us. My niece flew up to Chicago to watch the Cubs on the 4th & 5th, she had a great time, said everyone was on their best and friendly behavior. Oh, she is now a proud owner of a slightly used 24" Comfort Cruiser.
The older Ocelot Pro? I don’t think so unless the sensor, display screen and controller were changed out. I think the only thing that is the same is the frame.
Magicycle is awesome, great upgrade performance for Ocelot Pro, I have an Ocelot Pro, perfect for me, it's still working well now, and I'm going to buy another one upgrade for my husband!
Russ, I have already ordered mine. Do you have any idea when they will start to ship? I have the original Ocelot Pro but still trying to get it repaired from error code 30! Thanks
Russ just a question about the amount of noise generated from a typical e-bike. Have you found that most e-bikes w/a belt drive are much quieter than chain driven bikes? Are e-bikes with a rear drive motors always louder than mid-drive bikes? Tires and tread. It seems the greater the nobbies or more aggressive the tread the louder tire noise will be while riding. Of all the e-bikes you have ridden and reviewed is there an e-bike that stood out to you as being the more quiet? Do you find that while riding in the woods…people more frequently comment or give looks if the e-bike is loud? In other words the louder the noise from your e-bike the more often you get comments and looks. Magicycle Ocelot Pro 2.0 This bike seems relatively quiet, until you really ramp up the speed. The new Cadence sensor is a great new feature, I’m sure it will be replicated. It’s great to hear more of the e-bike manufacturers are raising the weight capacity to 400-450 pounds. Thanks again for sharing your review…I’m still undecided on which e-bike to purchase. My goal is to strike a good balance in deciding which e-bike to purchase. I’m torn between which bike to buy to best accommodate my height and weight. A person could spend hours and hours watching all the bike reviews on UA-cam. I respect your opinion and trust your judgement, you provide an honest review. By the way my Char Sui barbecue pork came out fantastic! I miss living in Illinois, it’s almost impossible to find a good Chinese restaurant and a place that makes good pizza. 🍕 Yeah, I’ll admit it…I often give in and buy the Costco pepperoni 🍕 pizza slice or all beef Costco hot dog!🌭
Wow... lots of questions! To answer your questions... YES! Belts are quieter than chains, rear hub motors are louder than mid-drive (for the most part), knobbier tires are noisier than non-nobby tires. The quietest bike I ever had was the Magicycle Commuter bike. It was a single speed, belt driven bike. No gears meant that even when you coast, you don't hear any gears clicking. Smaller motor , smaller battery, but the frame was essentially a road bike frame. Very lightweight with very thin tires. It was like a stealth bike! Of course, Class 1 only, so no throttle and assist to 20mph. Glad your Char Siu came out good! :)
Oh, also, the bigger the bike, the more comments made. If you are riding a commuter style bike where many people don't even know or can tell that it is an ebike, the less comments. Ride a big bike like the Magicycle Cruiser or the Deer 26, you will get looks and possibly comments.
Nice bike Russ . As always and excellent review .. as a big guy my yellow vest is a little tight around my waist .. I have been unable to find a larger size on Amazon .. I noticed your vest is not zipped up .. how do you keep from flying around with the wind blowing .. thanks
Yes I saw that but other reviewers showed the advanced settings and it seemed to max out at 22. Wondering if this is correct or maybe he had a pre production unit.
I brought this bike for my wife. We are excited for it to come.
That is a good looking ebike. I love the color. Nice that they have puncture resistant tires.
They need to do this to all bikes
I second this. Torque sensor gives you not only better feel and more opportunity to exercise (max assist requires only a little effort with a motor as strong as this one), but much better control of the bike. With a cadence sensor, especially ones with speed-setting PAS versus current/power, the huge surge of power through a high-torque motor can make controlling the bike difficult, even making you fall (I did twice before I adjusted the speed targets for PAS 1 and 2 very low, and that bike has only a 48V motor with a peak torque of 85Nm, not 100Nm like this new Ocelot). For high torque motors, a torque sensor system gives you much better control. Once you get up to speed, you can switch over to cadence sensor mode.
That brings up this question: what style of PAS does this bike use when in cadence sensor mode? Does each PAS level set a speed target (and surgey arbitrary power curve) or an amount of current/power sent to the motor?
Comment!!russ, I bought the same mirrors you use,they work great.for now on I am buying all my accessories from your affiliated links . You know quality .thank you😊🤠🇺🇸😁👍
I just bought the phone holder just today😁👍🤠🇺🇸
Thanks!
@@RussIsRightI been watching your channel for 2 years and you have high standards for quality 😁
Great job! Great video!!
That is an incredible feature
Magicycle has always produced high quality products. This new Ocelot Pro 2.0 is no different with the switch to and from torque to cadence sensor whenever you want. It's a great unique feature. Looking forward to more updates from Magicycle.
Thanks for the awesome review! The ability to switch between torque and cadence sensors really adds to the smooth ride, doesn't it?
Yes it does! 😊
Very nice, great job Russ
Great video. Do you know if Magicycle have both cadence and torque sensor or all their models, especially the full size Deer. Thank you!
Currently it is on the Ocelot Pro 2.0 and the soon to be released CT-1 commuter ebike. No word yet if it will be on the other models or not.
Thank you so much for this information!
Can you mount a bottle holder to the front rack mount holes (assuming you don’t have the front rack)…? I wondered if the screws would align. Been meaning to get a holder and try it but currently I just bungee the bottle to the rear rack.
I don’t believe they will line up. I have mounted bottle holders to the rear rack of many bikes though. Just zip tie the holder to the side of the rear rack. 😊
@@RussIsRight Thanks Russ. Not too surprised I guess. I'll probably go with your zip tie suggestion.
Hey Russ, that is a different phone holder you have there, are you pleased with it? I had a bad experience with one of the 3 Lamicall phone holders breaking. If it's a good one, share the link with us please. Thanks.
I have not experienced any of my Lamicalls break. This is the one I currently use the most. I move it from bike to bike because of the big clamp and adjustability: amzn.to/4bspnlF
@@RussIsRight Thank you very much for sharing what you know with all of us. My niece flew up to Chicago to watch the Cubs on the 4th & 5th, she had a great time, said everyone was on their best and friendly behavior. Oh, she is now a proud owner of a slightly used 24" Comfort Cruiser.
3D printing....that's incredible....I am going to research at my local library!
Well I am waiting a month for mine although it was promised to be shipped on 6/15.
Nice. I like how you can switch between torque and sensor on the fly. I don’t think you mentioned how much it weighs or costs…will have to re-view.
❤ Both torque and cadence sensors ?
🤔 Could it be that Euphree started a trend ? ... ! 😄
Russ, Do you know if the Ocelot Pro can be modified to to except the Torque Sensor?
The older Ocelot Pro? I don’t think so unless the sensor, display screen and controller were changed out. I think the only thing that is the same is the frame.
@@RussIsRight Thanks
I do like how the one trail where you test the uphill capability connects to the Deer Grove trails.
Magicycle is awesome, great upgrade performance for Ocelot Pro, I have an Ocelot Pro, perfect for me, it's still working well now, and I'm going to buy another one upgrade for my husband!
Great! Be sure to use my affiliate link and discount code to save some money!
Russ, I have already ordered mine. Do you have any idea when they will start to ship? I have the original Ocelot Pro but still trying to get it repaired from error code 30! Thanks
I don’t know but it should be soon.
Russ just a question about the amount of noise generated from a typical e-bike.
Have you found that most e-bikes w/a belt drive are much quieter than chain driven bikes?
Are e-bikes with a rear drive motors always louder than mid-drive bikes?
Tires and tread.
It seems the greater the nobbies or more aggressive the tread the louder tire noise will be while riding.
Of all the e-bikes you have ridden and reviewed is there an e-bike that stood out to you as being the more quiet?
Do you find that while riding in the woods…people more frequently comment or give looks if the e-bike is loud?
In other words the louder the noise from your e-bike the more often you get comments and looks.
Magicycle Ocelot Pro 2.0
This bike seems relatively quiet, until you really ramp up the speed.
The new Cadence sensor is a great new feature, I’m sure it will be replicated.
It’s great to hear more of the e-bike manufacturers are raising the weight capacity to 400-450 pounds.
Thanks again for sharing your review…I’m still undecided on which e-bike to purchase.
My goal is to strike a good balance in deciding which e-bike to purchase.
I’m torn between which bike to buy to best accommodate my height and weight.
A person could spend hours and hours watching all the bike reviews on UA-cam.
I respect your opinion and trust your judgement, you provide an honest review.
By the way my Char Sui barbecue pork came out fantastic!
I miss living in Illinois, it’s almost impossible to find a good Chinese restaurant and a place that makes good pizza. 🍕
Yeah, I’ll admit it…I often give in and buy the Costco pepperoni 🍕 pizza slice or all beef Costco hot dog!🌭
Wow... lots of questions! To answer your questions... YES! Belts are quieter than chains, rear hub motors are louder than mid-drive (for the most part), knobbier tires are noisier than non-nobby tires. The quietest bike I ever had was the Magicycle Commuter bike. It was a single speed, belt driven bike. No gears meant that even when you coast, you don't hear any gears clicking. Smaller motor , smaller battery, but the frame was essentially a road bike frame. Very lightweight with very thin tires. It was like a stealth bike! Of course, Class 1 only, so no throttle and assist to 20mph. Glad your Char Siu came out good! :)
Oh, also, the bigger the bike, the more comments made. If you are riding a commuter style bike where many people don't even know or can tell that it is an ebike, the less comments. Ride a big bike like the Magicycle Cruiser or the Deer 26, you will get looks and possibly comments.
Nice bike Russ . As always and excellent review .. as a big guy my yellow vest is a little tight around my waist .. I have been unable to find a larger size on Amazon .. I noticed your vest is not zipped up .. how do you keep from flying around with the wind blowing .. thanks
My vest is always zipped up. The vest is now larger than it was before I lost 35 lbs.
@@RussIsRight you look marvelous
@DougBlunt “Thank you. Thank you very much.” (In my best Elvis impersonation)
Nice review Russ. How many tooth chain ring does it have?
48T
The freewheel is 14-28T
Does the current limit at 22amps or 25amps? Thanks
From the Magicycle Website: "52V 750W FOC smart controller, Current Range 20~25 Amps (IPX8)"
Yes I saw that but other reviewers showed the advanced settings and it seemed to max out at 22. Wondering if this is correct or maybe he had a pre production unit.
Not sure.
Never mind… just heard it toward the end.
I'm curios what kind of fish could you be catching in that pond.
Busse Woods? Walleye, bass, pike, crappie, bluegills and more.