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Look up the Trypillian culture of Ukraine..The Goddess are an Exact match..You would also be surprised by their other symbols..Look up Tim and Heather Lee Hooker on UA-cam on their work in Europe..
I think you may be confusing the adze, the trademark of the Neolithic Farmer burial, with the Battle Axe. You also speak about a golden penis sheath. This item is considered the tassel of his belt. I will not be watching any more of your videos because I can see that there is an issue with accuracy and broader knowledge of archaeology.
These "Varna" people are from 4500 BC! To put that into perspective of how old that is; Upper and Lower Egypt was unified around 3150 BC stating the first Pharaonic dynasty. Ur was founded around 3800 BC and Gilgamesh was its king around 2900 BC. Crazier still is that Jericho was founded in 9600 BC and Gobekli Tepe dates back to 9500 BC. We know so little, almost NOTHING, about our early history. 😢😭
I'm Latvian living in Varna for a year already. Didn't even know this! Now I'm eager to explore sites of this culture scattered around this town. Thank you!
Yes ,yes Latvians have the Soviet type of attitude. Varna Archeological museum is a must for a visitor. Also as Baltian, you can visit the Memorial-Historical museum of Vladislav Varnenchik (1444 battle between Ottomans and Crusaidors led by Polish -Lithovian king)
Maybe the later "barbarian" steppe people were influenced by the Varna long after its passing, in a similar way that the Germanic peoples in the Dark Ages were heavily influenced by the glory of Rome, for centuries after its fall. Surely this place must have spawned legends that turned into myth that is now long forgotten.
That's an interesting idea, perhaps that is what happened. Perhaps they were more influenced by one another when they coexisted. There's a 2004 book I would like to read called "Zepterträger - Herrscher der Steppen. Die frühen Ockergräber des älteren Äneolithikums im karpatenbalkanischen Gebiet und im Steppenraum Südost- und Osteuropas". Some have suggested that the Varna culture (and its Old European neighbours) influenced the steppe societies, driving them towards establishing powerful chiefdoms like at Varna. This book argues it was more about the interactions between the various steppe tribes and the settled proto-civilisation of the Balkans and Carpathians that led to these cultural developments. The book suggests the new burial tradition that evolved can be seen across a wide area from Old Europe to the steppe cultures, but that only certain people in all these societies were buried like this. These may have been a new chiefly social class, or perhaps a kind of merchant class who mediated the trade system, or mobile craft experts especially metal workers. As I say, I haven't read it myself but it's an intriguing idea.
This era in Europe is so underestimated. This was a thousand years before Stonehenge and the standing stones all around Europe! And such an early admixture of Yamnaya - very interesting in deed!
New Profile, So What, And? Research the history of gold and you’ll see that the OP’s line of reasoning is facile. We have concrete evidence of gold being used as money for international trade and wealth accumulation in dynastic vaults from over 5,000 years ago. This means it would have to be well established as valuable as part of global human culture much much earlier. Furthermore, these people were making adornments of jewelry and ornamentation from gold and incorporating it in burial rights. These are behaviors that confer value to the gold.
it is connected with Bulgaria only geographically as an excavation site, here we are talking about the Neolithic, that is, the late Stone Age, no Bulgaria and no Bulgarians then existed in nature Bulgarians will emerge as a people only in the early Middle Ages, it's like the French would be proud of a man from a Cro-Magnon cave
@@coryfice1881 varna not vera And no people of antiquity were the same as modern ones, only their material culture and self-consciousness were different, even in the Paleolithic people were the same as they are now. They would easily adapt. There are many examples of how people from the more primitive societies of Asia, Africa and America encountered more modern people and nothing much happened to them.
Wow, the notion of goldsmith-kings reminds me of how blacksmiths (and other skilled workers) were often regarded as magic in pagan and medieval cultures. Must be an old idea. Fascinating video!
yes, even in Germanic saga being a blacksmith was considered a royal craft - like in the stories about Wieland it was not a shame for a prince to learn the trade of blacksmith
@@riccardodececco4404goes further back. Scythia had Royal blacksmiths in this same region that produced some of the beautiful gold work that their culture is famous for.
It's crazy how important these folks were for their time, but we have all forgotten about them until we randomly stumbled upon their remains. It makes you wonder what other stories we have no memory about.
I am from Varna and I pass near the necropolis every day going to work. Of course if you don't know it's there, you would never know as it's surrounded by industrial buildings. Still many of the sites haven't been excavated and I don't know why for so many years they haven't funded it. I am happy that there is such a detailed video about the topic and I learned new things. The whole area along the lake down to the sea shore was populated. There are other remains from this period that have been found during construction works.
It's tragic that so little research is done on Old Europe. It makes me wonder if Old Europe is deliberately ignored because it might distract us from worshipping the Middle-East.
@@gothicwesternActually the local archeologists and anthropologists are doing deep and extensive research. We should blame the authorities for not promoting properly our cultural heritage.
As far as I remember, about a third of the Varna necropolis is still left completely buried and untouched, and it's done on purpose by the archaeologists, wishing to leave it to the future generations who might get to study it with less intrusive techniques and technologies. However, a relative lack of funding might, indeed, be another factor in that decision. In any case, it's great luck that the treasure hunters haven't really caused any extensive damage, as they've done in numerous other sites around the country.
Its likely that if they were sea-oriented most of their shit is under the water. Not sure though, it seems sea level was only at -2 meters from now around 4000 BC and I checked that on Bulgarian coast, it doesnt add much land. -10 meters though and you start to get 3km of new land.
The source of their wealth is likely the salt mine at nearby Provadia, sitting at around 40km west from Varna, developed around the same time or earlier. Apparently in the past salt was very precious commodity and there it was produced on an industrial scale. Curiously, wealth accumulation eventually led to the necessity to fortify the area with a stone wall and other structures, making it the oldest known fortified town in Europe
The word "salary" comes from the Latin word for salt, as legionnaires would sometimes be paid with it. Considering the hard work to mine salt and the valuable uses for salt as both a preservative and flavoring agent (and more), it makes sense it would be worth its weight in gold (and sometimes more than its weight).
@@DISTurbedwaffle918They often got paid in salt in salt like you said that’s where salary came from. Salt was like electricity back then and made everything work.
Imagine all the impoverished presents in the middle ages who walked around in Varna, not knowing that right beneath their feet were vast, ancient riches.
4:40 The use of red ochre (or kōkōwai) is also used by Māori. One of the reasons is that the red earth symbolises the blood spilled when Ranginui (the Sky Father) and Papatūānuku (the Earth Mother) were separated, so it is a sacred colour.
@@Timer-Diegon1111 G'day, Write on a Blackboard 10,000 times... no No NOOOOO !!!! The Keltic Klowns in Kilts Didnae Niver appear Here, in Oz Or Kiwiland... Until the Yamnayans showed up, Dirk Hartog, Will I Am Dampier, Abel Tasman All came, saw, and wthdrew Bewildered... But Jimmy the Kook Shot the First Aborigine to ever Encounter a Yamnayan... The Yamnayans went to the British Islands 5,000 years ago, and ALL Work on Stonehenge immediately ceased. 100 years after work on Stonehenge ceased..., there were no longer ANY British Y-Chromosomes going onto British Cemereries. ALL the Human Testicles living on the "Great" 'British Islands' were YAMNAYAN For 5,000 years before Britain Invaded and Occupied and Stole Oz and Kiwiland. MEANWHILE... MUNGO MAN Was burried In Oz FORTY THOUSAND YEARS AGO... WITH RED OCHRE As Grave-Goods Cave Paintings in Oz, done in RED & WHITE OCHRE are 65,000 years old. The "Celts. Invented NOTHING. The "Celts"were beed up from Conquered and Dispossessed Enslaved Women who were Kept Alive, To work an to Fcuk... AFTER EVERY "BRITISH" Male Human had Bin-Killed By their CONQUERORS. Such is what the Archaeology And DNA Analysis Tells Us All... Such is life, Have a good one... Stay safe. ;-p Ciao !
Look up Graham Hancocks special on Netflix.. Ancient Apocalypse.. We were a world wide culture before the Younger Dryas..So let's not get shitty here.We were once one...Also look up the Trypillian culture of Ukraine. It dates to about 7000 years ago. The Goddess depicted here are an Exact match...You would be surprised at what there other symbols were as well.. Also look up Tim and Heather Lee Hooker work on UA-cam..
In the second largest ancient DNA study published in February 2018, scientists and archaeologists from 80 different institutions unveiled the mystery of Southeastern Europe's, including Bulgaria's, genomic history. These people were a mixture of largely Anatolian farmers and native hunter gatherers, with spattering of some steppe migrants. Geneticist David Reich has analyzed in great details the antecedents and DNA composition of the Hunter-Farmer confluence in Europe. Several others including geneticist from Max Plank Institute have analyzed and confirmed findings of the Nature Journal. Varna culture is enormously important in view of its Genome, and much less because of the amount of gold or the fact of antiquity. Nonetheless, it cannot be fairly compared with the mega civilizations of Egypt and Sumer , what with their supremely rich written languages and mythologies giving rise to the latter mediterranean civilizations.
I love these "Old Europe" cultures. You always bring so many interesting facts that nobody mention. Do you plan to explore more of these kind of cultures in old europe? Are there any interesting findings close to today Slovakia? Thanks
It seems that history of chalcolithic era should be rewritten taking Varna culture into consideration. This amount of golden artifacts presented so early in the era remains unprecedented in the history of Near East and neighbouring areas. It demands more research no doubt. Thank you Dan Davis for bringing it up. Well done.
The Trypillian culture of Europe is older with the same representation as the Goddess statues from this video so I would assume it came from there first then spread..
For those interested in the topic I would recommend prof.Hristo Smolenov's works and research on the neolithic Varna culture and its artifacts , there are some videos uploaded on his channel called The Black Sea Atlantis - Черноморската Атлантида here on youtube , there is also a link to a virtual book for anyone interested .
I'm so curious about these metalworking "shamans," and the power that their knowledge conveyed. The knowledge would give a culture such power, it's a wonder they shared it with outsiders.
Yes I'm sure the knowledge and skill was closely guarded and brought them great power. There was so much copper ore and gold nuggets in the Balkans at this time, it was often exposed on the surface and shining in river sediments. But it's the transformation of that into pieces of metal, and the transformation of that into useful and beautiful objects that would have been so magical. There's a debate about which came first, copper or gold working. Most people assume copper because there's so much more evidence for it but it seems likely they evolved together here in the Balkans.
@@DanDavisHistoryIt does seem like metallurgy would be easier to initially discover when it comes to gold, since it occurs in pure nuggets and melts at such a low temperature. Copper is a more finicky thing to refine and has a higher melting point.
@@somethingelse4424well they ensured their people’s survival with this skill. The Scythians who came later guarded this region and it’s smiths and eventually relocated their descendants when the region became too dangerous. You can actually see the gold working tradition of later times existing in some of these earlier pieces. It’s incredible.
That Varna Chieftain/Smith is about as true a King Arthur as I can imagine - in as much as he pulled swords from stones on a daily basis (metaphorically speaking).
I'd never heard of the Varna culture before. The sophistication of their gold working suggests they had been doing this for some time, so there could be alot more out there. I think there is definite possibility they influenced the Steppe cultures, such as the use of masks in graves, which later appears in the Catacomb Culture. Fascinating.
There's a lot of archeology under the Black sea. It's difficult to excavate but I sometimes like to imagine what other secrets this culture and it's predecessors hid.
You've a great way of making history interesting, the way I believe it should be taught, not always just believing, but also questioning. Good stuff as always, Dan.
When Ireland was a pre-peat post-glacial tundra, it is said it was cover in gold nuggets and surface seams, rivers and that, in many areas. And was traded all down western Europe and all the way up the Mediterranean, for many many thousands of year, in memorium.
So our love of precious metals really is as ancient as it gets but what i am most impressed with is the skill that is exhibited here. these items are amazing ! very complex and above all beautiful and artistic
Thank you for making and posting a video about archaeological finds that are so important to understand human civilization development. Traditionally, important historical events and finds on the territory of modern Bulgaria are not popularized. The processed gold found in Varna necropolis is the oldest in the world and by quantity exceeds many times the closest epochs findings around the whole world combined including those found in Mesopotamia, Egypt 500-1500 years younger civilizations than (Varna culture). The Eastern Balkans, basins of the Danube, and the North coast of the Black sea steppe region gateway to Asia are the cradle of the oldest civilizations in the World and Europe and many not so old.
In obtaining metals from ores, the making of high carbon wood charcoal and then coke from coal, removing most impurities, was a secret art too, we could say.
The beginning of Varna dates back to 6000 BC, The Varna Archaeological Museum in my opinion is the most interesting museum in the world. The city once stood there when the Black Sea was just a small lake thus predating all other ancient civilisations.
The artistry and craftsmanship of the gold artifacts implies that there are even older pieces possibly to be found. Where those possible older pieces might be found and who they were made by is super fascinating
I had never heard of this culture until you made mention of it, and I'm a bit ashamed of myself for that (just as how I hadn't heard of Cucuteni-Trypillia). It's a travesty these amazing ancient cultures are not more well-known, and while maybe not that Mesopotamia, Egypt, the Indus Valley Civilization get the lion's share of the attention, that Europe is virtually never included in these discussions. With these Varna artifacts, it's the first time I've truly marveled at European grave goods. Stupendous. With regard to their ethnolinguistic affiliation, I know Suvorovo is associated specifically with Anatolian or Pre-Anatolian Indo-European speakers by some scholars. Anatolia has become famous for its dearth of Steppe ancestry in skeletons from times when Anatolian languages were spoken; do you put any stock in the notion that it was amongst Pre-Anatolian Indo-Europeans that the model of "elite dominance" had its strongest showing? Perhaps this persisted into Anatolia itself and resolves the issue of why there's so little Steppe admixture there? Could the Varna chiefs represent the vanguard of a possible "Anatolian-style elite dominance model" for Indo-European language spread in the region?
Yeah it's still rather understudied. There are more excavations to be made at Varna alone and there are other sites too. There is a debate on the degree to which the Varna culture was actually different from its neighbours. Some argue they show no unique features other than the handful of very rich burials and that it only means they developed this funeral custom of making gold objects for burial. They say there's no evidence for any kind of aristocracy or kingship as institutions. Rather just some individuals happened to be special during their lives but there was no hereditary chiefdom. But I don't think there's enough evidence yet to conclude something like that. They say there's no evidence of social stratification in the settlements but the settlements are sometimes fortified like at Solnitsata (Provadia) and often include stone buildings like at Durankulak. It seems to me that maintaining long term relationships with resource generating areas for gold, copper, etc does require intergenerational social stability of a kind perpetuated by chiefdoms. Wish there were more aDNA samples and hopefully there will be in future but the soil acidity is a problem. As for the Suvorovo thing, I don't know what the relationship was. Clearly the Varna and surrounding groups of Old Europe had contact with the people in the Dnieper, Donets, Don, Volga valleys. And we can see there was DNA flowing into Varna from these people. But there's no classic steppe Y-haplogroup found in the Varna people so far which suggests they were a fully Old Europe society. It is possible their culture influenced that of the steppe peoples or rather the interactions between the Danubian cultures and the steppe cultures led to new social innovations.
But of course Academia will neglect any Ancient Culture as they're anti-white marxists, my brother. My wife is Bulgarian so I'm gonna let her watch this video.
People keep saying this guy was a chieftain because his grave is covered in golden artifacts, but the way we view gold as the metal of Kings is not necessarily the ones the people of the varna culture had. This dude may have just been an artisan who specialised working with gold
I saw the display of Varna gold at Canbridge and the skills used in making. Designing these amazing objects was totally wow! These were an amazing people and culture thank you for the video presentation about them and helping people be aware of history
You've done an excellent homework Dan. Hristo Smolenov is perhaps the bulgarian scholar with biggest knowledge regarding this culture. You might also wanna check the treasures from Hotnitsa and Durankulak, dated around the very same time.
This may have been the origin of the Aesir-Vanir war. Gullveig of the Vanir introduced the Aesir to gold. The Aesir attack Gullveig and kill her but she comes back to life 3 times after being speared and burned. A metaphor for refining gold. After warring with each other and near mutual destruction they decided to make peace and exchange hostages.
No it isn't as the Varna culture have no relations with the Germanic tribes none whatsoever they live hundreds upon hundreds of kilometres away thousands of years before they appeared
Thank you Dan for making this video. I really enjoy your channel and when I saw a video about my city I was very pleasantly surprised. We are quite proud of this heritage we have here
Another great video, thanks Dan! As always I appreciate your measured approach, how you carefully weigh the evidence, and take care not to overreach in interpreting the evidence.
It is always so interesting to me to see how the Old Europe might have influenced the Steppe cultures and it looks like they always return there. I wonder if what's suggested that the Steppe people didn't retain some mythology about those places beyond the big rivers and by the Black sea. At some point you can literally see all the Bulgarias (Old Great Bulgaria, Volga Bulgaria and Danube Bulgaria) in the three cultures depicted in the maps at 18:35 and 18:44 . It's just some speculation but that's what I love about this time of West Eurasian history, there's something JUST beyond our grasp and we need to work more to discover it (if possible)
As an Indian, you can see why a video on culture & gold immediately got my attention 😄. Jokes aside, very glad youtube recommended this channel to me. Looking forward to binge watching the rest of the uploads. Subscribed !
I had to go down a Google rabbit hole because I thought you couldn't possibly have been right about the weight. 3000 pieces made from 6 kg? That means they average 2 g each, and many of them are much larger than that which means many of them are much smaller than that. I was blown away by how little that was. If someone told me they found 3000 artefacts made of an extremely heavy metal, I would guess that I would not be able to lift all of it with one finger. A 7cm cube. A cube of gold where each side is only 7 cm long weighs 6 kg.
10:05 An alternative interpretation might be that, like some of the other cenotaphs, the chieftain's body might not have been recoverable and so they carried out the burial ritual sans corpse. I assume a vital aspect of his position would have been to lead his warriors in battle. What would be a better trophy or sign of victory than the body of the enemy's chief? He may have been killed on the battlefield and his body taken, or perhaps he was captured and killed, or even enthralled, after the fact? His body could have been lost other ways as well, but my point is that it makes more sense to me for the highly ornamented cenotaphs to represent a literally dead king without a body to bury than the symbolic death of a king who has simply lost his position to an up-and-comer.
I believe we've still many various cultures yet to be discovered throughout the world. We know the human mind is highly inquisitive, so the chances of cultures forming in many places from hunter gathers to a collective people seems more likely than various tribes merely slaying each other, but rather learning and sharing what they knew with each other. We always want to learn before anything else. It's what makes us unique.
There is a fair chance most of the earliest sites of human civilisation are currently underwater. If either archeologists work out ways to study underwater sites or sea levels recede we might find out civilisation began long before the Sumerian’s built cities in Iraq. Maybe the Sumerian’s ancestors built a civilisation in what is now the Persian Gulf.
Another fascinating video! I think the Varna pottery has similar open ended curves and swirls to those of the La Tène period of the Iron Age. Obviously there's no connection as they were geographically and temporally so distant from each other, but I suppose that artistic styles and motifs are re-invented all the time.
I'm a strong believer in the interconnectedness of ancient cultures. For instance, the imperial Japanese symbol of the chrysanthemum can be found inscribed on various ancient cultures' ruins. One example is Egypt. Very mysterious
@@Techno_Idioto Sure… the chrysanthemum symbol being quite specific and replicated onto various structure gives a strong possibility of a connection. The theory is that there was a global network in the ancient past. Difficult to properly prove, of course, as too many cataclysms happened to erase any potential evidence of such a network.
Fascinating! It is interesting to think about the General black sea cultures and how they interacted. In South Caucasus the culture of metalurgy and Smith priests is quite evolved as well, one could imagine an interconnected civilization around the black sea coasts, trading and raiding.
I really like your bronze age videos. I was meaning to ask you if you are familiar with the Varna Culture and Today when I returned home I see you uploaded this gem. Nice.
Wow this video was so amazing!!!! Thank you for sharing this most unique history. These people were amazing and just think of all we don't know about them. There is so much lost history.
It's very funny to consider that at the Bulgarian eastern boarder continuing into Romania to the North and Serbia to the East there is also Vinca culture (5400-4500 BC). The Balkans is a treasury still and there's much work to be done here.
You should talk about the Xiaohe Cemetery. It's a fascinatingly story of migration and not many people are talking about it. Not to mention the mummies are among the most well preserved and they had great hats.
Most excellent. I would love to see you do a piece on Richard Bulliet's work on the invention of the wheel by the copper miners of the Carpathian mountains and it's development into the mobile homes of the nomadic peoples in the steppes. With great graphics of course :)
I'm glad people like you are showing videos like this , Europe had their civilization way before Egypt and Mesopotamia, all serious historians know that when Greeks steped foot on the European continent coming from North Africa were amazed by the culture of the balkans and they were stealing a lot from their northern neighbors the tracians . To bad we still live in time of ancient civilization dogma of Egypt , Greece and Mesopotamia. Thanks again
Thank you so much for this video...these ''Old European'' cultures are something that I know very little of... Subscribed and hit the bell for All...Greetings from Scotland😁
Whenever I see you have a new video I watch, immediately. Great job. Always fascinating and you do a great job keeping my attention through the whole video. Usually sad when they end.
I would like to hear more about the Sredny Stog Culture. I've read a lot of arguments lately that the Corded Ware Culture were not descendants of Yamnaya but that Corded Ware and Yamnaya were separate related tribes both descendent from Sredny Stog. Thus making the Sredny Stog Culture the Proto-Indo-Europeans and not the Yamnaya.
But didn’t the corded ware have a much higher degree of Neolithic Farmer ancestry than the Yamnaya, suggesting that they would have been at least mostly derived from Yamnaya or other steppe cultures mixing as they moved west?
@@jamessarsgard1342 There are samples of Corded Ware with 0% Neolithic Farmer dna but you are correct on average Corded Ware Culture had 25% more Neolithic Farmer dna. However it's the y-dna that is questioned. It shows that the Corded Ware and Yamnaya came from different male lineages and there for Corded Ware can not be descendants of Yamnaya. Also archeology from the Sredny Stog Culture has found corded ware pottery which is thought to have originated there, and stone battle-axes of the type later associated with expanding Indo-European cultures to the West.
I always get excited when you publish a new video. Watching your videos has opened a whole new world of fascinating history for me. I fell in love with Viking culture and religion because it so obviously pointed to a meeting of two different cultures at some point in the past with the two groups of gods. I had no idea about comparative mythologies, so its been a delightful rabbit hole since then. I've been trying to find information from earlier cultures, but a majority of ancient civilization studies and videos are focused on Mesopotamian and Indus valley cultures. And now you've unlocked new search terms for me to research like 'old Europe'. I would love a deep dive into the goddess worship cultures of pre-indo european religions and any comparative mythology work has or can be done to trace goddess worship amongst different cultures and a general overview of what we know from each region about religious practices before the indo european influence takes over. Thank you so much. Your videos are excellent and I am excited to get copies of your books because if your presentation of history is this good, your novels must be amazing.
Metallurgy must have seemed like magic at first and the people who practiced it would have been celebrities. And here we are 6,500 years later and we're still fascinated by gold and weapons. This was a huge turning point in the human story.
A fleece is usually a sheep skin used to extract gold from a flowing river. The gold particles get catched in the wool together with other sediment. The Jason story is settled in Georgia
Amazing level of detail you cram into such a short video is impressive and is greatly respected. Refreshing to see such valuable information in our pop world that completely devoid of real facts. Our world almost seems repulsed by intelligence.
Everything that would make a dent in the current historic timeline dogma would be kept secret and those few Eastern European (particularly Russian) scientists willing to talk about it would be dismissed as propagandistic nonsense anyway, so you wouldn't learn much, aside from maybe a few completely misinterpreted artefacts.
A movie was made a few years back about gold and water and the Black Sea. 'Black Sea' is the international title IIRC. 'Young Pope' Jude Law is in it. Good movie.
Not only sending the soul on to the afterlife, but, and this was relevant with my grandmother after our grandfather died and she didn'tget to see the body; A burial helps cement the loss of the person in the minds of the community and their family. Without the ritual and public acknowledgment of their pasing away, members of the family and friends may find it impossible to move on psychologically. We had to remind grandma many times over the years that grandfather was gone.
Dacians had huge gold reserves in time of Roman conquest, so gold source wasn't too far. As for missing body of chief, he could have been killed in losing battle and body claimed by victors, or he simply died on trade expedition.
Finds like this and Gobekli Tepe make me wonder just how many rises and falls of civilization have happened over millennia. Bronze age collapse and the dark ages are the famous dividing lines, but there could be several others shrouded by decay.
Great vid as usual👍 You have a pleasant talkingvoice and a good way of describing things that makes it easy to follow you to a different time and place, exellent!
That is absolutely fascinating. I had never heard of this culture before. I'm completely ignorant on timelines but I wonder about the long periods between these advanced cultures and what happened in between. The sophisticated design of that small grey pot seems so advanced. The hammer like gold pieces almost look like they were turned on a lathe. Certainly cast rather than forged. I'd love to know more about these people.
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Do a video about thracian kings .Few tombs discovered in Bulgaria ,archeologies called this area Kings Valley.
Damn, it sounds like the varna had serious swag.
Look up the Trypillian culture of Ukraine..The Goddess are an Exact match..You would also be surprised by their other symbols..Look up Tim and Heather Lee Hooker on UA-cam on their work in Europe..
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I think you may be confusing the adze, the trademark of the Neolithic Farmer burial, with the Battle Axe. You also speak about a golden penis sheath. This item is considered the tassel of his belt. I will not be watching any more of your videos because I can see that there is an issue with accuracy and broader knowledge of archaeology.
These "Varna" people are from 4500 BC! To put that into perspective of how old that is; Upper and Lower Egypt was unified around 3150 BC stating the first Pharaonic dynasty. Ur was founded around 3800 BC and Gilgamesh was its king around 2900 BC. Crazier still is that Jericho was founded in 9600 BC and Gobekli Tepe dates back to 9500 BC. We know so little, almost NOTHING, about our early history. 😢😭
Who is Homo-Sapien.
Europe is not older then Kemet.
@@petermorton301 our gayest ancestor
@@eddielopez2373 LMFAO
You know we have dated man made tools to over a hundred thousand years ago.
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I'm Latvian living in Varna for a year already. Didn't even know this! Now I'm eager to explore sites of this culture scattered around this town. Thank you!
Buy a metal detector and a pickaxe and some dynamite and get to work.
You should visit the History Museum in Varna -Downtown next to the city hall. You will see a replica of the treasure.
Yes ,yes Latvians have the Soviet type of attitude.
Varna Archeological museum is a must for a visitor. Also as Baltian, you can visit the Memorial-Historical museum of Vladislav Varnenchik (1444 battle between Ottomans and Crusaidors led by Polish -Lithovian king)
@@carlustin4034 What do you mean by "Soviet type of attitude"?
@@carlustin4034 no, the Baltics do not remotely have a Soviet mind set,. That's why they were so fast to toss them out when free.
Maybe the later "barbarian" steppe people were influenced by the Varna long after its passing, in a similar way that the Germanic peoples in the Dark Ages were heavily influenced by the glory of Rome, for centuries after its fall. Surely this place must have spawned legends that turned into myth that is now long forgotten.
That's an interesting idea, perhaps that is what happened. Perhaps they were more influenced by one another when they coexisted.
There's a 2004 book I would like to read called "Zepterträger - Herrscher der Steppen. Die frühen Ockergräber des älteren Äneolithikums im karpatenbalkanischen Gebiet und im Steppenraum Südost- und Osteuropas". Some have suggested that the Varna culture (and its Old European neighbours) influenced the steppe societies, driving them towards establishing powerful chiefdoms like at Varna.
This book argues it was more about the interactions between the various steppe tribes and the settled proto-civilisation of the Balkans and Carpathians that led to these cultural developments. The book suggests the new burial tradition that evolved can be seen across a wide area from Old Europe to the steppe cultures, but that only certain people in all these societies were buried like this. These may have been a new chiefly social class, or perhaps a kind of merchant class who mediated the trade system, or mobile craft experts especially metal workers.
As I say, I haven't read it myself but it's an intriguing idea.
@@DanDavisHistory Great insight and that sounds like a great read, I’ll have to see if I can pick up a copy. Love your videos!
@Nicolai Myshkin Why not? Barbarians are only “barbarians” to their enemies.
Kinda adds good reason for the Greeks wanting to over throw Troy as they were the ones who controlled access to the Black sea.
@Nicolai Myshkin everyone is a barbarians to everyone else
This era in Europe is so underestimated. This was a thousand years before Stonehenge and the standing stones all around Europe! And such an early admixture of Yamnaya - very interesting in deed!
funny: in sanskrit "varna" - amongst other things - means "gold".
In Serbian we use "varnica" for "spark". There is also a synonym which I know is Slavic in origin which is "iskra" but I'm not sure about "varnica".
See 'varnish'
@@aleksandarilic7666 Колико ја знам име потиче од пољског аристократе.
A most remarkable thing is that these treasures were not looted over the centuries.
The graves were unmarked and thus hidden
It was found by accident.
when they were buried people may not have considered gold to be so precious - perhaps merely convenient like the clay used to make the pottery
styleisaweapon, Gold has had the same prestigious place as a monetary metal and source of wealth for over 5,000 years.
@@brawndothethirstmutilator9848, but this grave is over 6,500 years old....
New Profile, So What, And? Research the history of gold and you’ll see that the OP’s line of reasoning is facile. We have concrete evidence of gold being used as money for international trade and wealth accumulation in dynastic vaults from over 5,000 years ago. This means it would have to be well established as valuable as part of global human culture much much earlier. Furthermore, these people were making adornments of jewelry and ornamentation from gold and incorporating it in burial rights. These are behaviors that confer value to the gold.
As a proud Bulgarian, I'm very happy to see someone actually making a video about this. It truly is a remarkable culture and finding. Thank you!
Bulgarian national treasure = gold condom🤪
As an ashamed Bulgarian, I am very happy to see someone actually making a video about this.
it is connected with Bulgaria only geographically as an excavation site, here we are talking about the Neolithic, that is, the late Stone Age, no Bulgaria and no Bulgarians then existed in nature
Bulgarians will emerge as a people only in the early Middle Ages, it's like the French would be proud of a man from a Cro-Magnon cave
@@dropanukeonusaagain6606 Yeah if the Vera culture was magically transported to modern day they wouldn't have a clue what is going on here.
@@coryfice1881
varna not vera
And no people of antiquity were the same as modern ones, only their material culture and self-consciousness were different, even in the Paleolithic people were the same as they are now. They would easily adapt.
There are many examples of how people from the more primitive societies of Asia, Africa and America encountered more modern people and nothing much happened to them.
Wow, the notion of goldsmith-kings reminds me of how blacksmiths (and other skilled workers) were often regarded as magic in pagan and medieval cultures. Must be an old idea. Fascinating video!
yes, even in Germanic saga being a blacksmith was considered a royal craft - like in the stories about Wieland it was not a shame for a prince to learn the trade of blacksmith
@@riccardodececco4404goes further back. Scythia had Royal blacksmiths in this same region that produced some of the beautiful gold work that their culture is famous for.
It's crazy how important these folks were for their time, but we have all forgotten about them until we randomly stumbled upon their remains. It makes you wonder what other stories we have no memory about.
I am from Varna and I pass near the necropolis every day going to work. Of course if you don't know it's there, you would never know as it's surrounded by industrial buildings. Still many of the sites haven't been excavated and I don't know why for so many years they haven't funded it. I am happy that there is such a detailed video about the topic and I learned new things. The whole area along the lake down to the sea shore was populated. There are other remains from this period that have been found during construction works.
It's tragic that so little research is done on Old Europe. It makes me wonder if Old Europe is deliberately ignored because it might distract us from worshipping the Middle-East.
@@gothicwesternActually the local archeologists and anthropologists are doing deep and extensive research. We should blame the authorities for not promoting properly our cultural heritage.
As far as I remember, about a third of the Varna necropolis is still left completely buried and untouched, and it's done on purpose by the archaeologists, wishing to leave it to the future generations who might get to study it with less intrusive techniques and technologies. However, a relative lack of funding might, indeed, be another factor in that decision. In any case, it's great luck that the treasure hunters haven't really caused any extensive damage, as they've done in numerous other sites around the country.
Its likely that if they were sea-oriented most of their shit is under the water. Not sure though, it seems sea level was only at -2 meters from now around 4000 BC and I checked that on Bulgarian coast, it doesnt add much land. -10 meters though and you start to get 3km of new land.
The source of their wealth is likely the salt mine at nearby Provadia, sitting at around 40km west from Varna, developed around the same time or earlier. Apparently in the past salt was very precious commodity and there it was produced on an industrial scale. Curiously, wealth accumulation eventually led to the necessity to fortify the area with a stone wall and other structures, making it the oldest known fortified town in Europe
The word "salary" comes from the Latin word for salt, as legionnaires would sometimes be paid with it.
Considering the hard work to mine salt and the valuable uses for salt as both a preservative and flavoring agent (and more), it makes sense it would be worth its weight in gold (and sometimes more than its weight).
@@DISTurbedwaffle918They often got paid in salt in salt like you said that’s where salary came from. Salt was like electricity back then and made everything work.
Imagine all the impoverished presents in the middle ages who walked around in Varna, not knowing that right beneath their feet were vast, ancient riches.
I was fortunate to see the Varna display at museum in Cambridge. UK... It was totally brilliant and lovely and an amazing culture
6:55 the scepter wasn't the only shaft lined with gold by the looks of it.
Looks like a thimble! 😂
@@karenabrams8986thanks karen, you too.
4:40 The use of red ochre (or kōkōwai) is also used by Māori. One of the reasons is that the red earth symbolises the blood spilled when Ranginui (the Sky Father) and Papatūānuku (the Earth Mother) were separated, so it is a sacred colour.
Ask yourself where the mauri got it and who the Waka blondes really are. Same for the haka and tattoos. All Celtic.
@@Timer-Diegon1111 Both of you dont have idea about what you are talking and the time period.
@@Timer-Diegon1111
G'day,
Write on a
Blackboard
10,000 times...
no
No
NOOOOO !!!!
The
Keltic
Klowns in
Kilts
Didnae
Niver appear
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Oz
Or
Kiwiland...
Until the Yamnayans showed up,
Dirk Hartog,
Will I Am Dampier,
Abel Tasman
All came, saw, and wthdrew
Bewildered...
But Jimmy the Kook
Shot the
First
Aborigine to ever
Encounter a
Yamnayan...
The Yamnayans went to the British Islands 5,000 years ago, and ALL Work on Stonehenge immediately ceased.
100 years after work on Stonehenge ceased..., there were no longer
ANY
British
Y-Chromosomes going onto
British Cemereries.
ALL the Human Testicles living on the "Great" 'British Islands' were
YAMNAYAN
For 5,000 years before
Britain
Invaded and
Occupied and
Stole
Oz and
Kiwiland.
MEANWHILE...
MUNGO MAN
Was burried
In
Oz
FORTY THOUSAND YEARS AGO...
WITH
RED
OCHRE
As
Grave-Goods
Cave Paintings in Oz, done in RED & WHITE OCHRE are 65,000 years old.
The
"Celts.
Invented
NOTHING.
The
"Celts"were beed up from
Conquered and
Dispossessed
Enslaved
Women who were
Kept
Alive,
To work an to
Fcuk...
AFTER
EVERY
"BRITISH"
Male
Human had
Bin-Killed
By their
CONQUERORS.
Such is what the
Archaeology
And
DNA
Analysis
Tells
Us
All...
Such is life,
Have a good one...
Stay safe.
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Ciao !
Look up Graham Hancocks special on Netflix.. Ancient Apocalypse.. We were a world wide culture before the Younger Dryas..So let's not get shitty here.We were once one...Also look up the Trypillian culture of Ukraine. It dates to about 7000 years ago. The Goddess depicted here are an Exact match...You would be surprised at what there other symbols were as well.. Also look up Tim and Heather Lee Hooker work on UA-cam..
@@Timer-Diegon1111 Not sure if that's accurate and I'm Celtic meself.
I'm Bulgarian and was actually lucky enough to see this treasure live, probably about 15 years ago. It was quite amazing, honestly.
In the second largest ancient DNA study published in February 2018, scientists and archaeologists from 80 different institutions unveiled the mystery of Southeastern Europe's, including Bulgaria's, genomic history. These people were a mixture of largely Anatolian farmers and native hunter gatherers, with spattering of some steppe migrants. Geneticist David Reich has analyzed in great details the antecedents and DNA composition of the Hunter-Farmer confluence in Europe. Several others including geneticist from Max Plank Institute have analyzed and confirmed findings of the Nature Journal. Varna culture is enormously important in view of its Genome, and much less because of the amount of gold or the fact of antiquity. Nonetheless, it cannot be fairly compared with the mega civilizations of Egypt and Sumer , what with their supremely rich written languages and mythologies giving rise to the latter mediterranean civilizations.
30 kilometers from Varna has first village6000 Years of Salt production, 170 kilometers from Varna City Perperikon 5-6000 years ,and much more
I love these "Old Europe" cultures. You always bring so many interesting facts that nobody mention. Do you plan to explore more of these kind of cultures in old europe? Are there any interesting findings close to today Slovakia? Thanks
It seems that history of chalcolithic era should be rewritten taking Varna culture into consideration. This amount of golden artifacts presented so early in the era remains unprecedented in the history of Near East and neighbouring areas. It demands more research no doubt. Thank you Dan Davis for bringing it up. Well done.
Unprecedented?
The Trypillian culture of Europe is older with the same representation as the Goddess statues from this video so I would assume it came from there first then spread..
Danubian culture
For those interested in the topic I would recommend prof.Hristo Smolenov's works and research on the neolithic Varna culture and its artifacts , there are some videos uploaded on his channel called The Black Sea Atlantis - Черноморската Атлантида here on youtube , there is also a link to a virtual book for anyone interested .
I'm so curious about these metalworking "shamans," and the power that their knowledge conveyed. The knowledge would give a culture such power, it's a wonder they shared it with outsiders.
Yes I'm sure the knowledge and skill was closely guarded and brought them great power. There was so much copper ore and gold nuggets in the Balkans at this time, it was often exposed on the surface and shining in river sediments. But it's the transformation of that into pieces of metal, and the transformation of that into useful and beautiful objects that would have been so magical.
There's a debate about which came first, copper or gold working. Most people assume copper because there's so much more evidence for it but it seems likely they evolved together here in the Balkans.
@@DanDavisHistoryIt does seem like metallurgy would be easier to initially discover when it comes to gold, since it occurs in pure nuggets and melts at such a low temperature. Copper is a more finicky thing to refine and has a higher melting point.
@@somethingelse4424well they ensured their people’s survival with this skill. The Scythians who came later guarded this region and it’s smiths and eventually relocated their descendants when the region became too dangerous. You can actually see the gold working tradition of later times existing in some of these earlier pieces. It’s incredible.
That Varna Chieftain/Smith is about as true a King Arthur as I can imagine - in as much as he pulled swords from stones on a daily basis (metaphorically speaking).
I'd never heard of the Varna culture before. The sophistication of their gold working suggests they had been doing this for some time, so there could be alot more out there. I think there is definite possibility they influenced the Steppe cultures, such as the use of masks in graves, which later appears in the Catacomb Culture. Fascinating.
There's a lot of archeology under the Black sea. It's difficult to excavate but I sometimes like to imagine what other secrets this culture and it's predecessors hid.
Bulgarian here, thanks for the video. Glad i found your channel
You've a great way of making history interesting, the way I believe it should be taught, not always just believing, but also questioning. Good stuff as always, Dan.
When Ireland was a pre-peat post-glacial tundra, it is said it was cover in gold nuggets and surface seams, rivers and that, in many areas. And was traded all down western Europe and all the way up the Mediterranean, for many many thousands of year, in memorium.
So our love of precious metals really is as ancient as it gets
but what i am most impressed with is the skill that is exhibited here. these items are amazing ! very complex and above all beautiful and artistic
I really love the style that is disc like, smooth and geometric. Almost like sea shells but golden.
Gives a calming feeling
Thank you for making and posting a video about archaeological finds that are so important to understand human civilization development. Traditionally, important historical events and finds on the territory of modern Bulgaria are not popularized. The processed gold found in Varna necropolis is the oldest in the world and by quantity exceeds many times the closest epochs findings around the whole world combined including those found in Mesopotamia, Egypt 500-1500 years younger civilizations than (Varna culture). The Eastern Balkans, basins of the Danube, and the North coast of the Black sea steppe region gateway to Asia are the cradle of the oldest civilizations in the World and Europe and many not so old.
Bulgaria was populated by the celts
It’s an incredibly beautiful story of our history
The craftsmanship and artwork
In obtaining metals from ores, the making of high carbon wood charcoal and then coke from coal, removing most impurities, was a secret art too, we could say.
The beginning of Varna dates back to 6000 BC, The Varna Archaeological Museum in my opinion is the most interesting museum in the world. The city once stood there when the Black Sea was just a small lake thus predating all other ancient civilisations.
Ochre can be used as a preservative and insect repellent, which might explain why they used it in burials.
Excellent episode as always! What a fascinating culture!
Thank you.
Great video Dan. Gold is sacred. Amazing to think of the Sredny stog connection
Thank you. Yes it's interesting. There was surely generations of interaction between these societies that influenced the cultures of both.
I was waiting for years for the world to recognize Bulgarian archaeology ❤
Awesome! Finally you made a documentary about this strange but impressive culture!!!
Love it!
It’s possible that society was mature earlier than we think. Such treasures never last long and grave robbing was like the weather
The artistry and craftsmanship of the gold artifacts implies that there are even older pieces possibly to be found. Where those possible older pieces might be found and who they were made by is super fascinating
The government is restricting any research of, atleast 250 locations with extremely high value for the world cultural herritage, here, in Bulgaria...
I had never heard of this culture until you made mention of it, and I'm a bit ashamed of myself for that (just as how I hadn't heard of Cucuteni-Trypillia). It's a travesty these amazing ancient cultures are not more well-known, and while maybe not that Mesopotamia, Egypt, the Indus Valley Civilization get the lion's share of the attention, that Europe is virtually never included in these discussions. With these Varna artifacts, it's the first time I've truly marveled at European grave goods. Stupendous.
With regard to their ethnolinguistic affiliation, I know Suvorovo is associated specifically with Anatolian or Pre-Anatolian Indo-European speakers by some scholars. Anatolia has become famous for its dearth of Steppe ancestry in skeletons from times when Anatolian languages were spoken; do you put any stock in the notion that it was amongst Pre-Anatolian Indo-Europeans that the model of "elite dominance" had its strongest showing? Perhaps this persisted into Anatolia itself and resolves the issue of why there's so little Steppe admixture there? Could the Varna chiefs represent the vanguard of a possible "Anatolian-style elite dominance model" for Indo-European language spread in the region?
Yeah it's still rather understudied. There are more excavations to be made at Varna alone and there are other sites too. There is a debate on the degree to which the Varna culture was actually different from its neighbours. Some argue they show no unique features other than the handful of very rich burials and that it only means they developed this funeral custom of making gold objects for burial. They say there's no evidence for any kind of aristocracy or kingship as institutions. Rather just some individuals happened to be special during their lives but there was no hereditary chiefdom.
But I don't think there's enough evidence yet to conclude something like that. They say there's no evidence of social stratification in the settlements but the settlements are sometimes fortified like at Solnitsata (Provadia) and often include stone buildings like at Durankulak. It seems to me that maintaining long term relationships with resource generating areas for gold, copper, etc does require intergenerational social stability of a kind perpetuated by chiefdoms.
Wish there were more aDNA samples and hopefully there will be in future but the soil acidity is a problem.
As for the Suvorovo thing, I don't know what the relationship was. Clearly the Varna and surrounding groups of Old Europe had contact with the people in the Dnieper, Donets, Don, Volga valleys. And we can see there was DNA flowing into Varna from these people. But there's no classic steppe Y-haplogroup found in the Varna people so far which suggests they were a fully Old Europe society. It is possible their culture influenced that of the steppe peoples or rather the interactions between the Danubian cultures and the steppe cultures led to new social innovations.
But of course Academia will neglect any Ancient Culture as they're anti-white marxists, my brother. My wife is Bulgarian so I'm gonna let her watch this video.
@@DanDavisHistory "Old Europe" = PIE speakers??
@@nosotrosloslobosestamosreg4115 really ?
@@56Seeker Don't use "PIE" for it implies we evolved from those indian mixed street poop deployers, say "Pre-Aryans" instead.
People keep saying this guy was a chieftain because his grave is covered in golden artifacts, but the way we view gold as the metal of Kings is not necessarily the ones the people of the varna culture had. This dude may have just been an artisan who specialised working with gold
I saw the display of Varna gold at Canbridge and the skills used in making. Designing these amazing objects was totally wow! These were an amazing people and culture thank you for the video presentation about them and helping people be aware of history
First time I watch one of your videos, and I have to say it's been remarkably well structured, narated with ease and fluency, very explanatory. Bravo
You've done an excellent homework Dan. Hristo Smolenov is perhaps the bulgarian scholar with biggest knowledge regarding this culture. You might also wanna check the treasures from Hotnitsa and Durankulak, dated around the very same time.
Thanks for spreading the word about the Varna Culture!
Yeah, I did not know anything about them. Flabbergasted. So now I'm looking into and planning a visit to Varna.
This may have been the origin of the Aesir-Vanir war. Gullveig of the Vanir introduced the Aesir to gold. The Aesir attack Gullveig and kill her but she comes back to life 3 times after being speared and burned. A metaphor for refining gold. After warring with each other and near mutual destruction they decided to make peace and exchange hostages.
Could you tell me more about this story, it sounds interesting!
No it isn't as the Varna culture have no relations with the Germanic tribes none whatsoever they live hundreds upon hundreds of kilometres away thousands of years before they appeared
Thank you Dan for making this video. I really enjoy your channel and when I saw a video about my city I was very pleasantly surprised. We are quite proud of this heritage we have here
Another great video, thanks Dan! As always I appreciate your measured approach, how you carefully weigh the evidence, and take care not to overreach in interpreting the evidence.
May be those people were pre scithians, with gold cult and speeking vedas, drawing simbolic without writing?
I love the way you can transport me to another era so far removed
It is always so interesting to me to see how the Old Europe might have influenced the Steppe cultures and it looks like they always return there. I wonder if what's suggested that the Steppe people didn't retain some mythology about those places beyond the big rivers and by the Black sea. At some point you can literally see all the Bulgarias (Old Great Bulgaria, Volga Bulgaria and Danube Bulgaria) in the three cultures depicted in the maps at 18:35 and 18:44 . It's just some speculation but that's what I love about this time of West Eurasian history, there's something JUST beyond our grasp and we need to work more to discover it (if possible)
As a Bulgarian myself I can see the 3 Bulgarias as well. Not many people know about Bulgaria and its history. Thanks for pointing that 👍
As an Indian, you can see why a video on culture & gold immediately got my attention 😄. Jokes aside, very glad youtube recommended this channel to me. Looking forward to binge watching the rest of the uploads. Subscribed !
Are you Asian or North American Indian?
@@ingridmorgan7893 - Indian from India.
@@Kis-met I didn’t understand the joke you were presenting in your first sentence. Can you elaborate?
@@freckleheckler6311 of all indo european people Aryan clan was superior in every aspect astrology to biology to vedas to philosophy
Contemporary to the Danube Vinca culture. Good clip!
So you telling me all those memes about bulgaria being a first civilization are real?
Slowly going there, huh? Never seen there are jokes about this serious topic. It is alright, though. In time the facts shows up 😊. Greetings!
@@pavelivanov2064 hahah yeah indeed
When Dan Davis uploads, it’s a good day
I had to go down a Google rabbit hole because I thought you couldn't possibly have been right about the weight. 3000 pieces made from 6 kg? That means they average 2 g each, and many of them are much larger than that which means many of them are much smaller than that. I was blown away by how little that was. If someone told me they found 3000 artefacts made of an extremely heavy metal, I would guess that I would not be able to lift all of it with one finger. A 7cm cube. A cube of gold where each side is only 7 cm long weighs 6 kg.
10:05 An alternative interpretation might be that, like some of the other cenotaphs, the chieftain's body might not have been recoverable and so they carried out the burial ritual sans corpse. I assume a vital aspect of his position would have been to lead his warriors in battle. What would be a better trophy or sign of victory than the body of the enemy's chief? He may have been killed on the battlefield and his body taken, or perhaps he was captured and killed, or even enthralled, after the fact? His body could have been lost other ways as well, but my point is that it makes more sense to me for the highly ornamented cenotaphs to represent a literally dead king without a body to bury than the symbolic death of a king who has simply lost his position to an up-and-comer.
Amazing. I did not known about this civilisation. I am in Romania at the moment, so not too far from this!
Yes ,yes Romania puts a big effort for NOT knowing its closest neighbour's history
@@carlustin4034 really? ;C
Go to Sinaia monastery in Romania and ask for golden plates with writed Bulgarian history
Red Ocher was also medicinal. I have no doubt it reduced decay and therefore odors coming from corpses.
The sophistication of the jewelry design is truly stunning-and so advanced……I believe we have only scratched the surface of these remarkable people….
It would be great to have a video dedicated to mapping the succession of all the cultures over the centuries
I saw some of this treasure on display in the European Parliament in ASP building in Brussels, around 2013. Very impressive to see close up.
lucky it wasn't stolen by members of parliament
How big were most of them? All of this gold combined equals a cube where each side is only 7 cm long.
Wow I’m always so happy to discover another incredible history channel! Thanks!
I believe we've still many various cultures yet to be discovered throughout the world. We know the human mind is highly inquisitive, so the chances of cultures forming in many places from hunter gathers to a collective people seems more likely than various tribes merely slaying each other, but rather learning and sharing what they knew with each other. We always want to learn before anything else. It's what makes us unique.
This is what makes archaeology and History so interesting:)
There is a fair chance most of the earliest sites of human civilisation are currently underwater. If either archeologists work out ways to study underwater sites or sea levels recede we might find out civilisation began long before the Sumerian’s built cities in Iraq. Maybe the Sumerian’s ancestors built a civilisation in what is now the Persian Gulf.
Another fascinating video! I think the Varna pottery has similar open ended curves and swirls to those of the La Tène period of the Iron Age. Obviously there's no connection as they were geographically and temporally so distant from each other, but I suppose that artistic styles and motifs are re-invented all the time.
I'm a strong believer in the interconnectedness of ancient cultures. For instance, the imperial Japanese symbol of the chrysanthemum can be found inscribed on various ancient cultures' ruins. One example is Egypt. Very mysterious
@@GreenTimeEagle Or it's just because flower look pretty.
@@Techno_Idioto Sure… the chrysanthemum symbol being quite specific and replicated onto various structure gives a strong possibility of a connection. The theory is that there was a global network in the ancient past. Difficult to properly prove, of course, as too many cataclysms happened to erase any potential evidence of such a network.
Fascinating! It is interesting to think about the General black sea cultures and how they interacted.
In South Caucasus the culture of metalurgy and Smith priests is quite evolved as well, one could imagine an interconnected civilization around the black sea coasts, trading and raiding.
I really like your bronze age videos. I was meaning to ask you if you are familiar with the Varna Culture and Today when I returned home I see you uploaded this gem. Nice.
Wow this video was so amazing!!!! Thank you for sharing this most unique history. These people were amazing and just think of all we don't know about them. There is so much lost history.
It's very funny to consider that at the Bulgarian eastern boarder continuing into Romania to the North and Serbia to the East there is also Vinca culture (5400-4500 BC). The Balkans is a treasury still and there's much work to be done here.
You should talk about the Xiaohe Cemetery. It's a fascinatingly story of migration and not many people are talking about it. Not to mention the mummies are among the most well preserved and they had great hats.
Most excellent. I would love to see you do a piece on Richard Bulliet's work on the invention of the wheel by the copper miners of the Carpathian mountains and it's development into the mobile homes of the nomadic peoples in the steppes. With great graphics of course :)
I'm glad people like you are showing videos like this , Europe had their civilization way before Egypt and Mesopotamia, all serious historians know that when Greeks steped foot on the European continent coming from North Africa were amazed by the culture of the balkans and they were stealing a lot from their northern neighbors the tracians .
To bad we still live in time of ancient civilization dogma of Egypt , Greece and Mesopotamia.
Thanks again
@Sao Ham ?
Great Sunday evening just took an upturn. Think I shall enjoy this.
Thanks for the great video! These lesser known archaeological cultures you bring into the spotlight are incredible.
This reminded me of the goldwork done by the Etruscans
Because the etruscans are thracian too ( celts basically).
This are thracians and proto-thracians, one of the four big indo-arians tribal formation that populated Europe.
Maybe
I absolutely love this channel, you bring fascinating stories of the ancient past back to life. Great job.
Thank you so much for this video...these ''Old European'' cultures are something that I know very little of...
Subscribed and hit the bell for All...Greetings from Scotland😁
It's always a good day when Dan turns up, armed with another video.
Great video. Always enjoy learning about ancient peoples. Thanks for your research and hard work!
When I die bury me in a ochre stained kurgan
Whenever I see you have a new video I watch, immediately. Great job. Always fascinating and you do a great job keeping my attention through the whole video. Usually sad when they end.
I would like to hear more about the Sredny Stog Culture. I've read a lot of arguments lately that the Corded Ware Culture were not descendants of Yamnaya but that Corded Ware and Yamnaya were separate related tribes both descendent from Sredny Stog. Thus making the Sredny Stog Culture the Proto-Indo-Europeans and not the Yamnaya.
But didn’t the corded ware have a much higher degree of Neolithic Farmer ancestry than the Yamnaya, suggesting that they would have been at least mostly derived from Yamnaya or other steppe cultures mixing as they moved west?
@@jamessarsgard1342 There are samples of Corded Ware with 0% Neolithic Farmer dna but you are correct on average Corded Ware Culture had 25% more Neolithic Farmer dna. However it's the y-dna that is questioned. It shows that the Corded Ware and Yamnaya came from different male lineages and there for Corded Ware can not be descendants of Yamnaya. Also archeology from the Sredny Stog Culture has found corded ware pottery which is thought to have originated there, and stone battle-axes of the type later associated with expanding Indo-European cultures to the West.
Oh interesting. Amazing how quickly DNA findings can flip the script nowadays
I always get excited when you publish a new video. Watching your videos has opened a whole new world of fascinating history for me. I fell in love with Viking culture and religion because it so obviously pointed to a meeting of two different cultures at some point in the past with the two groups of gods. I had no idea about comparative mythologies, so its been a delightful rabbit hole since then.
I've been trying to find information from earlier cultures, but a majority of ancient civilization studies and videos are focused on Mesopotamian and Indus valley cultures.
And now you've unlocked new search terms for me to research like 'old Europe'.
I would love a deep dive into the goddess worship cultures of pre-indo european religions and any comparative mythology work has or can be done to trace goddess worship amongst different cultures and a general overview of what we know from each region about religious practices before the indo european influence takes over.
Thank you so much. Your videos are excellent and I am excited to get copies of your books because if your presentation of history is this good, your novels must be amazing.
Metallurgy must have seemed like magic at first and the people who practiced it would have been celebrities. And here we are 6,500 years later and we're still fascinated by gold and weapons. This was a huge turning point in the human story.
wonder if this was where the legend of Jason and the Golden Fleece originated? Jewelry has always been associted with magic and power
A fleece is usually a sheep skin used to extract gold from a flowing river. The gold particles get catched in the wool together with other sediment. The Jason story is settled in Georgia
Amazing level of detail you cram into such a short video is impressive and is greatly respected. Refreshing to see such valuable information in our pop world that completely devoid of real facts. Our world almost seems repulsed by intelligence.
Great video, the section about the red ochre in the graves reminded me of the red lady grave in the UK, which is actually of a young man
And he was pre last glaciation about 12-15kbc
Six Thousand years is a mind-boggling amount of time.
interesting stuff, wonder how much more could be discovered what is not underwater beneath the Black Sea
Everything that would make a dent in the current historic timeline dogma would be kept secret and those few Eastern European (particularly Russian) scientists willing to talk about it would be dismissed as propagandistic nonsense anyway, so you wouldn't learn much, aside from maybe a few completely misinterpreted artefacts.
A movie was made a few years back about gold and water and the Black Sea. 'Black Sea' is the international title IIRC. 'Young Pope' Jude Law is in it.
Good movie.
Not only sending the soul on to the afterlife, but, and this was relevant with my grandmother after our grandfather died and she didn'tget to see the body;
A burial helps cement the loss of the person in the minds of the community and their family.
Without the ritual and public acknowledgment of their pasing away, members of the family and friends may find it impossible to move on psychologically.
We had to remind grandma many times over the years that grandfather was gone.
Dacians had huge gold reserves in time of Roman conquest, so gold source wasn't too far. As for missing body of chief, he could have been killed in losing battle and body claimed by victors, or he simply died on trade expedition.
Finds like this and Gobekli Tepe make me wonder just how many rises and falls of civilization have happened over millennia. Bronze age collapse and the dark ages are the famous dividing lines, but there could be several others shrouded by decay.
Great vid as usual👍
You have a pleasant talkingvoice and a good way of describing things that makes it easy to follow you to a different time and place, exellent!
That is absolutely fascinating. I had never heard of this culture before. I'm completely ignorant on timelines but I wonder about the long periods between these advanced cultures and what happened in between.
The sophisticated design of that small grey pot seems so advanced. The hammer like gold pieces almost look like they were turned on a lathe. Certainly cast rather than forged. I'd love to know more about these people.
Thanks for reminding me to buy more of your books. I love your work man, it's truly inspiring.
Varna system is prevalent in india, and no doubt this system has traveled and being practiced still.
I highly doubt it started in india..
Thanks.😊
Thanks for creating this vid.I told you this civilization is simple remarkable.
Fantastic, thank you so much for posting! Never knew about this culture 😄💕