So gutted it was an elbow man. JJ was dominating regardless tbf I think he would’ve got the ko had the elbow not happened a bit later on in the round. It’s also worth noting Joe initiated the clinch and leaned into it and the elbow looked completely accidental. Should be ruled a no contest & JJ should move on to Tommy imo.
In my opinion after watching the Joe post fight video with Fred, It was not a flush / true elbow. Joe would have a nice cut sliced under his eye, yet he doesn't even have a bruise.
I agree, 100%. No Rematch, there is 0 evidence that Joe had a chance of winning if the shot was not a elbow. KSI still would've knocked him out in the same round so I agree, Tommy or Jake next.
I feel like everytime KSI fights there’s some controversy or unanswered questions, always some bs. It really sucks that it ended like that. KSI was looking good too. However, that’s a elbow and that’s not fair to Joe. A No Contest is the right call.
as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
Joe looked awful and slow like I expected, but was starting to have some success in round 2. The elbow was unintentional so the fight should be ruled a no contest.
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove first and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
@@Ghostyboydead as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
@@Jonathan-tw4xm Usada doesn't sanction fights, they regulate drugs use. It also only does fights in the USA. There no such rule as 16.2.1, there no universal rule for pro boixng. Sanctioning bodies does that. Usada isn't a sanctioning body my guy. You're being lied to.
The one thing fournier did well was to interrupt JJ's flow, KSI even mentioned that his timing felt off. But he was just so slow, even slower than he was before.
It is just the way of the media that this fight will always be labelled "Elbow" now.. but i'm so thankful we have people like you telling the full story of the situation, jj was almost certainly ending it within the two following rounds. Thanks for the vid and I hope you are well man 🤍
Looking at all the comebacks in boxing I'm glad they didn't just stop and end the fights because it looked like the other guy was winning. An illegal elbow ended the fight and it's a no contest. The sooner you can accept those facts the less biased you will be
@@robhernandez5520 irrelevant to what the outcome was gonna be. Joe Fournier is absolutely shocking. All the success for joe has come from emptying them massive pockets. Guys fought bigger cans than Ksi. He would have annihilated him. Logan Paul and faze temper would have beaten joe Fournier 😂.
@@robhernandez5520 Yeah I definitely agree, it's annoying that it's tarnished what was a good performance, stronger footwork, better composure etc. Although it definitely should have been a no contest idk why they haven't done that..
its annoying but it needs to be a no contest decision. JJ would have won and people are being unreasonable jumping on this immediately as if decisions like this dont take a while. Its clearly not intentional, just unfortunate timing with joes dodge at the (im)perfect time. Its especially unfortunate because of people like jake paul who will use this ammunition, then again shit like this seems to be the norm within the scene. Hopefully JJ will have a main event fight that goes perfectly one day.
A rematch should not happen, if anything happens it should be a no contest. That's it and I can see how KSI actually hit him a little with the right hand but yeah then the elbow sadly came in and hit more :/ but just move on to Tommy now and go next you know
yea it's dangerous to have his hands that low. I'd rather see KSI vs Salt Papi then KSI Vs Tommy Fury tbh. Idk if KSI is ready for Tommy, and Salt Papi is better then Joe Fournier IMO, Joe is worse then Anthony Taylor and even Tyron Woodley.
@@soulful999 are u fuckin serious rn. I like papi but he ain't ready. he looked absolutely gassed out after the second round. ksi will eat him in the ring
i think it’s the opposite. If he would’ve come in as a traditional boxer joe, or any professional boxer with experience would piece him up. I do think tommy, as the rounds go on, will find the timing and reads and school ksi but i also think ksi will perform well in the first few rounds because of how awkward he is to fight
As per USADA rules (16.2.1), ‘if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flush, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO.
The KSI vs Jake depends on the Tommy fight, if JJ wins that’s a complete GG for Jake. If he loses, a Jake fight is needed to close off on that boxing legacy.
I think we can all agree this isn’t about “cheating” or anything to do with KSI not being able to win the fight. The elbow obviously wasn’t intentional, and Fournier was already dazed so he was about to lose regardless. This is more about the fact that, for the sake of boxing integrity, this HAS to be ruled as a no contest but hasn’t been yet. JJ also needs to be honest and admit what happened.
KSI looked like really good in round 2 he was still doing the karate style he likes but he was more defensively sound and he was landing jabs to the body and setting other shots up the first round he looked a bit over eager but when he relaxed in the second and took more time to set things up we saw the true KSI
Thank you finally someone who is not a stupid hater and actually sees with his eyes the pros and the cons. And not just focusing on the cons. Thank you. And uh.. What I said no offense I'm just sick and tired of people tonight.
@@darrylanderson6004 KSI has 0 defense. Hands down. No head movement. Moves straight back. It doesn’t matter if it’s a “weak opponent” so he can let loose. How you fight under the lights will become muscle memory and if he fights Tommy or Jake like this he will get outboxed and outclassed to the decision.
amazing performance by JJ. the elbow was unintentional and at worst PBA would score this bout a NC. i can't see it being a DQ win for joe. and if they run it back it would be more embarrassment for joe. best for him to retire at this point.
Honestly, Jake should've taken the KSI fight for August. Feel like Jake is done improving at this point besides a few things. KSI is starting to improve himself to that point as well. We're seeing massive improvements from KSI each fight now. Jake feel like we've seen an up and down thing. Anyhow, really good performance by KSI he looked big surprisingly as you said and he was doing good things against Joe.
@@kalebbrijahjones9420 well that one punch sent bro off both his feet and backing away the whole fight was Ksi bullying him so yes it can be told as the whole fight 😂
as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
W Video. After the overhand, Joe was rocked and wobbly. A push could’ve sent him onto the canvas. You can see as he is going for the clinch his right leg is up, so he was off balance and on the way down. Also in the way he falls and his right leg is folded (shows he was off balance) The elbow (*forearm) was just a convenient excuse
I do agree it would have been a knockout either way if he had landed flush with that right, but I also don't see it as an elbow, I personally see it as more of a forearm which in my opinion is different and does happen more frequently in boxing than elbows do.
Should definitely be a no contest, but I think we saw what we needed. And unlike pro boxers, records don't matter at all, as in this wasn't for a belt or anything, so whether it's a no contest, a DQ loss for KSI or remains, mistakenly, a win, KSI should just move on to the next fight. Though similar to Tyron Woodley 2, if Joe Fournier is down to be the backup fighter for a quite possible Tommy Fury pullout, that'd be convenient for all parties. But knowing the internet, we'll be hearing about this "drama/controversy" for wayy too long, though I totally get why some people will be outraged by the whole thing, especially people on Fournier's side/KSI detractors. Also, obligatory "lol you thought Swarmz would win, this aged poorly" comment.
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
Elbow or not Joe DEFINITELY shouldn't get a DQ win. If anything it should be a No Contest and they should just run it back...Joe did NOTHING in that fight to deserve a win, he was getting dominated before the "KO" happened.
It should be no contest. But it was too ez for ksi to give Joe a rematch or something like that. Tommy Fury is the next one to make, and it will be much closer than people think.
Honestly even before I watch this I just gotta say the elbow finished the fight but KSI was gonna win either way but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be overturned cuz that elbow definitely ended the fight in some way Edit: Also keep up the good work love the videos 👍
So sad about that ending man. JJ still would've had him nonetheless, but this fight should be turned into a NC because it was an illegal shot that put Fournier down.
The tommy fury fight is a genius move tho. Because if he wins, he doesnt need to fight Jake, and if he does it makes him the definete A side. If he loses, which is the most likely scenario, it puts Jake and KSI on equal terms for their fight. Winner could get the tommy fury rematch
Jake saying he could beat Tommy wasn't too far fetched.. but there is no way people think KSI has a chance in hell against Tommy after what he shows in the ring.. lights out in 3
Jake fan here. Jj was clearly faster and more explosive, he was going to win. I think he would have been tested a bit more but would have won either way. Im just dissapointed his management team and the broadcast didnt tell him so that he could properly address it. He could have easily said im sorry for the elbow, i understand that it may be flipped, but i recognize im the better fighter and moving on to tommy fury regardless and i think everyone would accept that.
Personally, I think KSI will get found out as soon as he comes up against someone with some boxing skills and isn’t super slow. KSI really has terrible technique and he is always getting tagged.
KSI looked pretty good but he wasn't dominating the fight by any means. Round 1 was essentially a warm up and in the second round Joe was pretty much even with KSI until the illegal shot.
It’s insane how people will switch up after a paycheck. It was a clear elbow. Period. In terms of the fight, joe hasn’t fought in YEARS it was always going to be a slow start. Theirs been closer fights in the beginning where the guy on the offense eventually gets put away. Joe got caught wobbled a bit and relaxed before getting elbowed. KSI has improved but his level is still unknown. I could see Anthony Taylor beating him tbh. Tommy would knock him out in four rounds.
Watching clearly better younger atlhetes beat up on older fighters. Watching 3/4 rounds of beginner fighters is fun sometimes. Sometimes like tonight , not so much
It was definitely a ksi win it should be nothing more than a no contest definitely not a DQ regardless a rematch reallly isn’t needed when it happened I said this the best way the fight could’ve turned out for Joe
It hit his nose or whys his head turn before the elbow gets there his legs are already gone it seems before the punch ksi is tucked as tight as he can be joe still lunging for the clinch
Yeah that whole Elbow thing was uncomfortable...BUT it still happened so I wouldn't be surprised if this turned to a No Contest. Joe looked slow as hell (like I expected him to be) and now all that good. Jj looked more poised per-say, although he still throws some simi crazy hooks, the jab than overhand was nice but Fournier really didn't do much so it is what it is. For Jj's next he will get his ass whooped obviously.
my prediction was 100% accurate, joe was terrible and slow, regardless of the elbow it would of been another underwhelming easy victory for ksi can he please choose a half decent opponent 💀
yall can cry about that forearm strike all day but the truth is that ksi was gonna knock him out anyway, the fight wasn't even close, ksi actually connected with a right hook but the momentum of the punch made him follow up with his forearm, i'v seen the same think happen in pro boxing multiple times
Unofrtunately the elbow will still the headlines, But i believe joe was going to sleep regardless, I dont know how tommy fury would cope with this style and a continuous train of big punches being thrown at him all night, I do believe tommy has the power and i do believe KSI is less durable than jake people so ittl definitely be interesting
Tbh Joe Fournier wouldn’t have made it out that round even if it wasn’t for the elbow. His time was coming but they shouldn’t run it back unless it’s quick on the next event. Should be Tommy Fury in august
I don’t think this means much. The fight should be overturned but in our minds we know JJ would’ve destroyed him so he can still up the levels, not sure if he should go up to Tommy Fury though
100% no contest, and people are way too pressumptious to assume Fournier would have lost anyway. We just saw Venomzzz come back from getting hurt dropped and it was nowhere as one sided as people are trying to make it seem. Having said that would much prefer to see KSI fight Jake or tommy rather than a rematch.
People should stop talking like Joe would have won if it wasn't an elbow. KSI was clearly dominating round 1 and in round 2, if it was anything other than an elbow it would have been a knockout. But an elbow is an elbow and should be a no contest Imo. KSI should Accept that it was an elbow and Joe should accept that it was a mistake..
rematch or draw, the elbow doesn't look intentional, however its still an elbow. Doesn't matter if KSI was winning close or by a mile that's a clear elbow to the face.
KSI is going to moonwalk Tommy, if Tommy thinks he can throw his lazy right cross falling over his hips Tommy will be asleep before he blinks , I imagine KSI slipping the right-hand on the outside returning a left hook and that's all she wrote round three knockout
I really hope it isn't a disqualification bc Joe did walk into that accidental elbow and claimed that KSI intentionally did it. I hope it's a No Contest so neither side won or lost, even tho we know KSI did win that fight without the unintentional elbow.
Jj isn’t going to be able to do that MVP style against Tommy .. no way. Honestly, I have a lot of respect for JJ and always supported him, but that elbow was an absolute joke. Tommy will TKO him
So gutted it was an elbow man. JJ was dominating regardless tbf I think he would’ve got the ko had the elbow not happened a bit later on in the round. It’s also worth noting Joe initiated the clinch and leaned into it and the elbow looked completely accidental. Should be ruled a no contest & JJ should move on to Tommy imo.
In my opinion after watching the Joe post fight video with Fred, It was not a flush / true elbow. Joe would have a nice cut sliced under his eye, yet he doesn't even have a bruise.
there not even pro fights so probably won't be changed lol
I agree, 100%. No Rematch, there is 0 evidence that Joe had a chance of winning if the shot was not a elbow. KSI still would've knocked him out in the same round so I agree, Tommy or Jake next.
How tf was he dominating
@@The_Jumpman 🤦♂️bro I hate when people that have no clue what boxing is say stuff at least have a small understanding just re watch
I feel like everytime KSI fights there’s some controversy or unanswered questions, always some bs. It really sucks that it ended like that. KSI was looking good too. However, that’s a elbow and that’s not fair to Joe. A No Contest is the right call.
as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
Joe did fall into it its Joe's fault he should have put his guard up instead of clinch when rocked.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm why do people keep referencing a fake rule from USADA? It’s a drug testing agency not a commission lol
@@Jonathan-tw4xm usada doesn’t even sanction fights LOL
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
Joe looked awful and slow like I expected, but was starting to have some success in round 2. The elbow was unintentional so the fight should be ruled a no contest.
How does It taste?
@@Dubelectroify taste like my fist punching ya mouth
@@Dubelectroify its not gonna work
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove first and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
@@Walkthroughman9akaJack Ryan Garcia just did this to Tank too
Joe was off balance after the overhand, went to clinch as KSI was throwing a right hook resulting in the follow through causing an elbow KO.
That's a no contest.
@@Ghostyboydead as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
@Gaming 100 no its a ksi win because its Joe's own fault for jumping into the elbow instead of moving back it would have been a clean ko if not
@@Jonathan-tw4xm Usada aren't a boxing commission, they deal with drug doping. Please use your braincells.
@@Jonathan-tw4xm Usada doesn't sanction fights, they regulate drugs use. It also only does fights in the USA. There no such rule as 16.2.1, there no universal rule for pro boixng. Sanctioning bodies does that. Usada isn't a sanctioning body my guy. You're being lied to.
The one thing fournier did well was to interrupt JJ's flow, KSI even mentioned that his timing felt off. But he was just so slow, even slower than he was before.
@Zero exactly and Tommy has that legitimately good Jab as well.
@Zero an entertaining fight all he gotta do is look better than jake
It is just the way of the media that this fight will always be labelled "Elbow" now.. but i'm so thankful we have people like you telling the full story of the situation, jj was almost certainly ending it within the two following rounds. Thanks for the vid and I hope you are well man 🤍
As it should. Unfortunate but is what it is
Looking at all the comebacks in boxing I'm glad they didn't just stop and end the fights because it looked like the other guy was winning. An illegal elbow ended the fight and it's a no contest. The sooner you can accept those facts the less biased you will be
@@robhernandez5520 irrelevant to what the outcome was gonna be. Joe Fournier is absolutely shocking. All the success for joe has come from emptying them massive pockets. Guys fought bigger cans than Ksi. He would have annihilated him. Logan Paul and faze temper would have beaten joe Fournier 😂.
@@robhernandez5520 Yeah I definitely agree, it's annoying that it's tarnished what was a good performance, stronger footwork, better composure etc. Although it definitely should have been a no contest idk why they haven't done that..
love your take on this!
its annoying but it needs to be a no contest decision. JJ would have won and people are being unreasonable jumping on this immediately as if decisions like this dont take a while. Its clearly not intentional, just unfortunate timing with joes dodge at the (im)perfect time. Its especially unfortunate because of people like jake paul who will use this ammunition, then again shit like this seems to be the norm within the scene. Hopefully JJ will have a main event fight that goes perfectly one day.
A rematch should not happen, if anything happens it should be a no contest. That's it and I can see how KSI actually hit him a little with the right hand but yeah then the elbow sadly came in and hit more :/ but just move on to Tommy now and go next you know
Even if it was not a elbow Kai was still gonna ko him with a punch, disqualification is too much maybe no contest is gonna be announced
Was definitely an unintentional elbow but they didn't handle it very well in the presser.
It should be a no contest we can clearly see how it was an unintentional move from KSI with Joe leaning in for a clinch.
W Roundhouse
The karate style from KSI might actually kill him versus an actual *skilled* boxer
yea it's dangerous to have his hands that low. I'd rather see KSI vs Salt Papi then KSI Vs Tommy Fury tbh. Idk if KSI is ready for Tommy, and Salt Papi is better then Joe Fournier IMO, Joe is worse then Anthony Taylor and even Tyron Woodley.
@@soulful999 nah salt papi looked bad tn
Well tommy isnt really a ko type of guy. But if jj leaves himself open tommy could win on points
@@soulful999 are u fuckin serious rn. I like papi but he ain't ready. he looked absolutely gassed out after the second round. ksi will eat him in the ring
i think it’s the opposite. If he would’ve come in as a traditional boxer joe, or any professional boxer with experience would piece him up. I do think tommy, as the rounds go on, will find the timing and reads and school ksi but i also think ksi will perform well in the first few rounds because of how awkward he is to fight
As per USADA rules (16.2.1), ‘if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flush, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO.
The KSI vs Jake depends on the Tommy fight, if JJ wins that’s a complete GG for Jake. If he loses, a Jake fight is needed to close off on that boxing legacy.
Joe moved like he had two locked knees🤣
I think we can all agree this isn’t about “cheating” or anything to do with KSI not being able to win the fight. The elbow obviously wasn’t intentional, and Fournier was already dazed so he was about to lose regardless. This is more about the fact that, for the sake of boxing integrity, this HAS to be ruled as a no contest but hasn’t been yet. JJ also needs to be honest and admit what happened.
I hope the finnish doesn't taint the performance.. KSI would have Knocked out Joe anyways, Elbow or not
KSI looked like really good in round 2 he was still doing the karate style he likes but he was more defensively sound and he was landing jabs to the body and setting other shots up the first round he looked a bit over eager but when he relaxed in the second and took more time to set things up we saw the true KSI
Thank you finally someone who is not a stupid hater and actually sees with his eyes the pros and the cons. And not just focusing on the cons. Thank you. And uh..
What I said no offense I'm just sick and tired of people tonight.
Facts
Karate style haha
@@darrylanderson6004 KSI has 0 defense. Hands down. No head movement. Moves straight back.
It doesn’t matter if it’s a “weak opponent” so he can let loose. How you fight under the lights will become muscle memory and if he fights Tommy or Jake like this he will get outboxed and outclassed to the decision.
@@HaroonKhan-wd2dz You definitely are blind if you think his defense hasn't gotten better. Blind, Stupid, and just a hater.
amazing performance by JJ. the elbow was unintentional and at worst PBA would score this bout a NC. i can't see it being a DQ win for joe. and if they run it back it would be more embarrassment for joe. best for him to retire at this point.
Honestly, Jake should've taken the KSI fight for August. Feel like Jake is done improving at this point besides a few things. KSI is starting to improve himself to that point as well. We're seeing massive improvements from KSI each fight now. Jake feel like we've seen an up and down thing. Anyhow, really good performance by KSI he looked big surprisingly as you said and he was doing good things against Joe.
did everyone notice in the the beginning of round 2, he change his style a little bit not using his karate stance and he looked somewhat like a boxer.
Yeah and Joe started timing him better when he did that
@@kalebbrijahjones9420 yeah he timed the overhand right?
@@boomyrang4597 let's not talk like casuals and pretend one punch tells the story of a whole fight
@@kalebbrijahjones9420 well that one punch sent bro off both his feet and backing away the whole fight was Ksi bullying him so yes it can be told as the whole fight 😂
@@jadenhawkins6706 smh.. Thats casual talk I swear and I'm not even trying to be rude
Easily the most level-headed response to all of this
ksi was doing alright dominating got him with a overhand his money shot then elbowed him it was an accident but still
Joe jumped into the elbow it was Joe's fault
as per USADA rules (16.2.1) 'if an opponent walks into an elbow, and the original hook would have been flesh, it is deemed the fault of the opponent resulting in a victory by KO
@@Jonathan-tw4xm usada lmao ok man
@@Jonathan-tw4xm USADA doesn’t rule over boxing. It would be whoever sanctioned the fight
@@Jonathan-tw4xm joe didn't jump into it. Ksi's left arm pushed Fournier downwards and then into the elbow. Still, unintentional
W Video.
After the overhand, Joe was rocked and wobbly. A push could’ve sent him onto the canvas. You can see as he is going for the clinch his right leg is up, so he was off balance and on the way down. Also in the way he falls and his right leg is folded (shows he was off balance)
The elbow (*forearm) was just a convenient excuse
Cope, Fournier was hurt but he wasn’t anywhere near immediately going down. Convenient excuse? Brother we all saw it land
I do agree it would have been a knockout either way if he had landed flush with that right, but I also don't see it as an elbow, I personally see it as more of a forearm which in my opinion is different and does happen more frequently in boxing than elbows do.
Should definitely be a no contest, but I think we saw what we needed. And unlike pro boxers, records don't matter at all, as in this wasn't for a belt or anything, so whether it's a no contest, a DQ loss for KSI or remains, mistakenly, a win, KSI should just move on to the next fight. Though similar to Tyron Woodley 2, if Joe Fournier is down to be the backup fighter for a quite possible Tommy Fury pullout, that'd be convenient for all parties. But knowing the internet, we'll be hearing about this "drama/controversy" for wayy too long, though I totally get why some people will be outraged by the whole thing, especially people on Fournier's side/KSI detractors.
Also, obligatory "lol you thought Swarmz would win, this aged poorly" comment.
It’s not really that bad. You can clearly see it connect with the glove and then the forearm and elbow. Mayweather threw punches like this all the time.
@@Walkthroughman9akaJack wym it's not that bad it's illegal buddy. Replay clearly shows only the elbow hit him
Elbow or not Joe DEFINITELY shouldn't get a DQ win.
If anything it should be a No Contest and they should just run it back...Joe did NOTHING in that fight to deserve a win, he was getting dominated before the "KO" happened.
Just what we needed !!!
It should be no contest. But it was too ez for ksi to give Joe a rematch or something like that. Tommy Fury is the next one to make, and it will be much closer than people think.
Honestly even before I watch this I just gotta say the elbow finished the fight but KSI was gonna win either way but that doesn't mean that it shouldn't be overturned cuz that elbow definitely ended the fight in some way Edit: Also keep up the good work love the videos 👍
if ksi beats Tommy fury I will actually be astounded
If Tommy is switched on for 8 rounds and doesn’t get caught he’ll dominate
No you will find some other excuses. KSI haters have been following same rule book for years. Look at the other clown who replied to you.
it will be jake fight all over again
He didn’t have a chance vs Tommy
Still feel like KSI hasnt had an actual test yet he hasnt faced anyone where you can see it being a 50/50 fight
i mean th Logan fights where pretty equal tbf
@@bbckprd6816 Logan actually had the edge on everything lol, roughest opponent so far
Well yeah but i mean i kinda think it's ksi's style as well. With his style, he will either absolutely dominate, or spectacularly lose
@@bbckprd6816that was 5 years ago and wasn’t even a pro fight
As soon as KSI fights anybody his size that has even the slightest idea how to box he’s done.
KSI took one out of Chase Demoor's books haha
bro using video quality a UFO photography would be proud of
Always a good day when roundhouse uploads
joe was already asleep on his feet before that last shot put him to bed lol
Mate, calculated assessments is just about the last thing Williams does.
So sad about that ending man. JJ still would've had him nonetheless, but this fight should be turned into a NC because it was an illegal shot that put Fournier down.
The tommy fury fight is a genius move tho. Because if he wins, he doesnt need to fight Jake, and if he does it makes him the definete A side. If he loses, which is the most likely scenario, it puts Jake and KSI on equal terms for their fight. Winner could get the tommy fury rematch
Jake saying he could beat Tommy wasn't too far fetched.. but there is no way people think KSI has a chance in hell against Tommy after what he shows in the ring.. lights out in 3
I 100% agree with you roundhouse
Jake Paul would be spewing he didn't cherry pick Joe instead of Tommy.
Jake fan here. Jj was clearly faster and more explosive, he was going to win. I think he would have been tested a bit more but would have won either way. Im just dissapointed his management team and the broadcast didnt tell him so that he could properly address it. He could have easily said im sorry for the elbow, i understand that it may be flipped, but i recognize im the better fighter and moving on to tommy fury regardless and i think everyone would accept that.
ksi hit joe’s forehead with his hand then his forearm, you gotta go like frame by frame to see it though
I think KSI was going to win regardless but it should be a no contest. However KSI should not entertain a rematch. He should pursue Tommy Fury
Personally, I think KSI will get found out as soon as he comes up against someone with some boxing skills and isn’t super slow. KSI really has terrible technique and he is always getting tagged.
Always getting tagged? Bro has gotten hit like 4 times in his past 4 fights. What the fuck are you watching?
no shit hes a youtuber ofc he'll get beat by a real pro 😂
JJ is gonna get a no contest but he’s still gonna fight Tommy next I hope
I think personally if the right hook landed flush then it would’ve been a brutal KO, way worse than the elbow but unfortunately it wasn’t to be.
Joe dives into the elbow then says "it should be a dq and count for a win for me" what an embarrassing example of a pro fighter
Joe did poorly in the first round, but thats to be expected. KSI is just hard to handle till you learn how he fights.
if u stop the excact frame of the impact , it wasn't his elbow, it was his forearm
KSI looked pretty good but he wasn't dominating the fight by any means. Round 1 was essentially a warm up and in the second round Joe was pretty much even with KSI until the illegal shot.
It’s insane how people will switch up after a paycheck. It was a clear elbow. Period.
In terms of the fight, joe hasn’t fought in YEARS it was always going to be a slow start. Theirs been closer fights in the beginning where the guy on the offense eventually gets put away. Joe got caught wobbled a bit and relaxed before getting elbowed. KSI has improved but his level is still unknown. I could see Anthony Taylor beating him tbh. Tommy would knock him out in four rounds.
Yep so many people glazing ksi it's unbelievable
he was not relaxed before being elbowed bud he was wobbled and could barely stand
@@tkj2979 go lie somewhere else
@@Entertainment-ev6ob bro was not relaxed 😂 literally holding himself up on KSI and then tries to clinch
@@Entertainment-ev6ob "relaxed" 🤣🤣, good one dummy
Watching clearly better younger atlhetes beat up on older fighters. Watching 3/4 rounds of beginner fighters is fun sometimes. Sometimes like tonight , not so much
It was definitely a ksi win it should be nothing more than a no contest definitely not a DQ regardless a rematch reallly isn’t needed when it happened I said this the best way the fight could’ve turned out for Joe
The way KSI and his fellow promoters handled themselves after that clear elbow was absolutely disgusting
I believe if the pba have any integrity it should be overturned to a no contest
It hit his nose or whys his head turn before the elbow gets there his legs are already gone it seems before the punch ksi is tucked as tight as he can be joe still lunging for the clinch
Yeah that whole Elbow thing was uncomfortable...BUT it still happened so I wouldn't be surprised if this turned to a No Contest. Joe looked slow as hell (like I expected him to be) and now all that good. Jj looked more poised per-say, although he still throws some simi crazy hooks, the jab than overhand was nice but Fournier really didn't do much so it is what it is. For Jj's next he will get his ass whooped obviously.
my prediction was 100% accurate, joe was terrible and slow, regardless of the elbow it would of been another underwhelming easy victory for ksi
can he please choose a half decent opponent 💀
Not an embarrassing loss like Jake atleast, but a NC - that one still keeps Jake up at night
yall can cry about that forearm strike all day but the truth is that ksi was gonna knock him out anyway, the fight wasn't even close, ksi actually connected with a right hook but the momentum of the punch made him follow up with his forearm, i'v seen the same think happen in pro boxing multiple times
That's not how boxing works.
YT comments are soo better than twitter man.
Roundhouse why weren't you there commentating?
I like that jj was more patient. He was gonna knockout joe regardless of the elbow.
Unofrtunately the elbow will still the headlines, But i believe joe was going to sleep regardless, I dont know how tommy fury would cope with this style and a continuous train of big punches being thrown at him all night, I do believe tommy has the power and i do believe KSI is less durable than jake people so ittl definitely be interesting
where is your lightsaber bro? also can you use the force in your next video?
God bless you bro keep up the good content
Joe would have been KOed regardless if he ate the short right hook. That accidental elbow fucked it
Too quick with it bro🔥
It was clear KSI was on the path to victory anyway, but no doubt the elbow is what finished it off.
Tbh Joe Fournier wouldn’t have made it out that round even if it wasn’t for the elbow. His time was coming but they shouldn’t run it back unless it’s quick on the next event. Should be Tommy Fury in august
I don’t think this means much. The fight should be overturned but in our minds we know JJ would’ve destroyed him so he can still up the levels, not sure if he should go up to Tommy Fury though
damn you’re quick
Felt weird to see the elbow hit his chin but honestly it just sucks this is gonna be held against him by his haters
Are we gonna ignore that a few times Ksi would swing then run like 5 steps away on some Rock Lee looking shit then reset lmaoo
Still waiting in the Ryan vs tank full full breakdown
This similar thing happened with Liam vs Chris Ubanks!
100% no contest, and people are way too pressumptious to assume Fournier would have lost anyway. We just saw Venomzzz come back from getting hurt dropped and it was nowhere as one sided as people are trying to make it seem. Having said that would much prefer to see KSI fight Jake or tommy rather than a rematch.
Tommy is gonna become the youtuber checker lmao
People should stop talking like Joe would have won if it wasn't an elbow. KSI was clearly dominating round 1 and in round 2, if it was anything other than an elbow it would have been a knockout. But an elbow is an elbow and should be a no contest Imo. KSI should Accept that it was an elbow and Joe should accept that it was a mistake..
rematch or draw, the elbow doesn't look intentional, however its still an elbow. Doesn't matter if KSI was winning close or by a mile that's a clear elbow to the face.
a rematch for this would be a complete waste of resources time and money
just deem it a no contest and move on to the next fight
KSI is going to moonwalk Tommy, if Tommy thinks he can throw his lazy right cross falling over his hips Tommy will be asleep before he blinks , I imagine KSI slipping the right-hand on the outside returning a left hook and that's all she wrote round three knockout
Fury in 4 rounds KSI has no defense and can only fight guys that dont punch back
The fight should be no contest as the elbow was clearly unintentional. But in my opinion it doesn't take away from what KSI accomplished in the fight.
May be running it back would be great
Joe should just take the L. He was getting toyed with so hard by KSI. Knockout was coming sooner than later anyways.
Rule this a NC, dont have a rematch and feed fournier to another misfits boxer (salt papi/slim) and still market him as an undefeated pro.
It doesn't matter if Fournier was rocked in the second round. Rules are rules . If ksi was hit with that elbow it would be overturn already
I was waiting for ur vid so bad
I really hope it isn't a disqualification bc Joe did walk into that accidental elbow and claimed that KSI intentionally did it. I hope it's a No Contest so neither side won or lost, even tho we know KSI did win that fight without the unintentional elbow.
It was clearly unintentional. Very unfortunate but obvious ksi was dominating, I don't think a rematch is necessary
Jj isn’t going to be able to do that MVP style against Tommy .. no way.
Honestly, I have a lot of respect for JJ and always supported him, but that elbow was an absolute joke. Tommy will TKO him
Would love to have seen it from a better angle.
Yes he was gonna win and had him rocked but the hit that knocked him out was an elbow so nc/dq
Nc most likely since it wasn’t intentional
Bro no that's was an Elbow knock out no matter what happened during that fight
People asking for a DQ dont know shit. Its a no contest. Tyson bit a dudes ear of an they kept fighting.
Bangkok ready KSI.