Hilarious! I love DT, but that was hilarious! (And I think this is the better band, even though I realize it's like saying Mango kicks Orange's ass; and it does, cuz Mango is the Ivo of fruits! Also I just had 2 shots of tequila, so shudup!
Here down the chat already explained 11 year ago : "It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end."
A friend of mine is getting married in August and she asked me to recommend her a band to play at her wedding. Guess who I recommended. Now she is actually trying to arrange them to play there.
so incredibly hard if you dont play an instrument you might not be able to fully appreciate whats going on here .......... my God ....... just ............ insane .
Me too. It was at the Kuumbwa Jazz Club in Santa Cruz. It blew us all away; so densely intricate and free at the same time...more notes per second than anyone could process, yet we got into it. Thay didn't speak a word of English. Incredible.
I saw these guys in a small jazz club in Santa Cruz having heard of them before. It was a unique experience; we're still trying to process what we heard. We loved it.They didn't speak a word of English. We all spoke music. I wish these Night Music shows would be released. Every one was unique and amazing. David Sanborn had great taste in music. I recorded a few on VHS.
I have much respect for Bulgarians when it comes to their incredible musicianship and discipline to write such amazing pieces like these. Much respect from an Albanian
If you were born in Bulgaria that crazy time signature would come to you naturally. You don't have to think about 3/8 7/16 or 17/32 :) That kind of music is all over the place there.
My Music Cultures of the World professor posted this video with the following message: "I also wanted to share some amazing, almost-uncountable music from the Balkans: the amazing clarinetist Ivo Papasov and his band. Not only do they keep track of lightning-fast, odd meters, but they improvise on top of it (and always seem to know where they are)." She challenged us to count the meter of this song. I. Can't. Even.
People who grew up in the Western World only listening to hip Hop and Country songs will Never understand the difficulty about playing Balkan Music. There are no better musicians then Balkans
I remember switching the TV as this started, didn't know what had hit me. I assumed it was some crazed avant-garde shit, but in fact it's straight-up Bulgarian folk music: they dance to 13/8, 11/16 & all those kinda math-y time signatures there. I did sound for a Bulgarian band the other night, the crowd even clapped for an encore in 7/8!
I remember watching this in 1989 (GREAT TV show) and it made the hair on my arms stand on end. I had been listening to the Bulgarian Women's Chorus (also fantastic), and Andy Irvine's interpretations of Balkan Music, but I never dreamed there was music like this. It was like hearing Charlie Parker for the first time. I use this word very infrequently: this band was awesome.
And they still are awesome. I saw them live last weekend in a local club. It's the first time I drive home after a concert and turn off the radio, cause I just know that whatever they play on it would sound just stupid after what I had just heard. Amazing!
I'll never forget the night I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to see if there was something on the tube that would help get me back to sleep. Tuned in just as Dave introduced these guys. My life has never been the same. Where can I get more in 11, 13, or 17?
pbwbrian53 I, too, watched this after I came home from a gig the night it aired. Absolutely jaw-dropping. Don't know about you, but I sure as hell couldn't get right to sleep after hearing this!
just found a copy of Orpheus Ascending on vinyl. The most incredible jazz record of the 1980's, best thing that's happened to me all year! Absolute masterpiece!
This performance is ridiculous. I couldn't help but notice the woman sitting throughout and wonder what the deal is. At 2:48 She gets up, the tempo changes and I know it's about to go down, but have zero idea how. At 3:12 I really wanted the song to be over so I could start over and listen to it again. I've spent 60 minutes listening to a 6 minute song. That drummer and those vocals really do it for me.
This one has been on UA-cam for almost twenty years on different channels - and folks still watch it and like it, for it's just such a mindblowing performance! Just Awesome musical and technical mastery...
LOVE the cadenza/Bartokian fanfare at 4:32. This band is just magical; they are all scary, twisted monsters. Ivo sounds like Coltrane on acid/crack but with more chops. And I like it when they go really fast at the end. Then there's the bass player's pants...
The Best Bulgarian Folk Music Group 1987-95? TRAKIA..it became a pressure(can we call it this) between Popazov and saxophonist Younakov at the and. Its sad, but their story and the concerts, CD`S will forever bee there. It nice to see the friends still Papazov and his accordion player, Neshev, still plays together:) But still..I really wish old "Trakia" could do a "reunion" in 2020:) pls...with the old members:)(from summer 87..as we all know and have seen soo many times:)
In fact, all of us who dance to such music in Bulgaria are pretty alive and in good health. And it is not as impossible to dance to such music as many Westerners think, but it is certainly difficult. You can see two examples of dancing on the "Kopanitza" (the type of dance that Ivo and his band play here in 11/16 time signature ). Usually it starts slow and then its getting faster. The fastest part start in 2:13: ua-cam.com/video/1qYh-dJriIc/v-deo.htmlsi=6KA5L6PDVDTdzTV- Here the fun start at 1:56: ua-cam.com/video/8fhUTEEcFdE/v-deo.htmlsi=kq4NwIjn0kxp7egd
Right before the 4:32 mark, the guitarist is rockin out and has this face like he's getting ready to rip into some mean riffs, then he strums just a basic chord progression that's the slowest part of the whole song!!! Cracked Up!!!
Actually, Bulgarian players don't count it quite the same way... e.g. 7/16 they simply count as 3 with a longish three. e.g. 1,2,3_; 1,2,3_ . Or 11/16, is 1,2,3_,4,5, etc, etc.
Thomas Green that’s not right. There is a fantastic way to play the rithm, but your english 4/4 can never understand. There’s something like 7/8, 11/12, 7+7+7+4, or 7+5/8....
Depends on the song! The one-two-threee you described is casually called as a masculine Rachenitsa, but we also have a feminine Rachenitsa which is counted with a long first beat - oneeee-two-three.
Came to this after reading Ode to a Tenor Titan: The Life and Times of Michael Brecker. He was getting into this music at the end of his life. Almost sounds like something from the mind of Frank Zappa!
Cannot comprehend...overheating... And to think they can probably pull off a five-hour session like this... Being a Serbian neighbor and musician who's played and listened to a fair share of Balkan folk music in nonstandard time signatures, it still makes me wonder how the hell they manage to learn tunes like this note-by-note and not spend 50% of their lives sitting in a room staring at sheet music.
Funny thing is that if you even ask them about notes sheets, they'd probably wonder what that is. Most of the greatest Bulgarian musicians never went to musical school or the like, they just picked up the instrument at a very early age and by their teens, they were already playing at weddings. Growing up in Bulgaria I can tell you, weddings are insane, they can literary last around the clock. It's crazy but magical!
This doesn't stop blowing my mind after so many years. What amazes me the most is that, while this piece is extremely clear from a harmony standpoint (there are several key center changes - modulations - that don't take much effort to detect for a somewhat trained ear), the rhythm is a complete puzzle for those of us who aren't immersed in Balkan music culture. The only thing I've never liked is the tone of the sax player, which sounds like a duck to me. But that's really nitpicking for such an unbeatable performance.
Amazing! I can't follow this at all, and even thought I was going to struggle to get into it at the start, but you just let it go and it all falls into place. The only other Ivo Papasov song I know is Hristianova Kopanitsa (thanks to John Peel), and that's amazing.
Vai never got it right, and few westerners ever do. In Bulgaria odd signatures r interpreted differently. For example one of most beloved folk dances "rachenitza" is in 7/8 and and it goes 1, 2, 3ee with prolonged 3. Cheers
haha.. I came here also after watching Vai! ;) and yeah... this is some crazy stuff!.. hahaha... Im glad Im not Bulgarian or going to marry there :P I mean, I doubt every "wedding musician" has this quality!, and theres nothing worse than playing this kind of music poorly... that would be very ear damaging! :P Kudos to Ivo Papasov and his wedding band.. not bad at all... but crazy! :P
You've got it all wrong... It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end. 4/4????
take that, dream theater
Hilarious! I love DT, but that was hilarious! (And I think this is the better band, even though I realize it's like saying Mango kicks Orange's ass; and it does, cuz Mango is the Ivo of fruits!
Also I just had 2 shots of tequila, so shudup!
Wonderful comment.
Dream who? They sound as 1 year child compare to ivo. I love DT till scenes from a memory, no more patience
@@hongoslongos5203 DT sounds like ABBA compared to this. 🤣
🤣🤣🤣
Everyone: What time signature is this?
Ivo Papasov: YES!
You mean time signatures. Plural! I’ve been listening to his stuff for years it’s mind-boggling.
Here down the chat already explained 11 year ago : "It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars
Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end."
@@pasullica so... YES!
@@pasullica what absurd break are you talking about?
This is a wedding band. Imagine this band playing this song on your wedding day
A friend of mine is getting married in August and she asked me to recommend her a band to play at her wedding. Guess who I recommended. Now she is actually trying to arrange them to play there.
@@bdschannel4733 Did it work out?
so incredibly hard if you dont play an instrument you might not be able to fully appreciate whats going on here ..........
my God ....... just ............ insane .
I saw this exact band in 1990 in a small jazz club. One of the most mind bending musical experiences of my life.
Me too. It was at the Kuumbwa Jazz Club in Santa Cruz. It blew us all away; so densely intricate and free at the same time...more notes per second than anyone could process, yet we got into it. Thay didn't speak a word of English. Incredible.
that's balkan polymeters for ya
Saw them live last weekend in a local club. They are still absolutely amazing!
I saw these guys in a small jazz club in Santa Cruz having heard of them before. It was a unique experience; we're still trying to process what we heard. We loved it.They didn't speak a word of English. We all spoke music. I wish these Night Music shows would be released. Every one was unique and amazing. David Sanborn had great taste in music. I recorded a few on VHS.
I have much respect for Bulgarians when it comes to their incredible musicianship and discipline to write such amazing pieces like these. Much respect from an Albanian
That’s the most amazing thing I’ve ever heard
Най-великия показва как трябва да се свири.
If you were born in Bulgaria that crazy time signature would come to you naturally. You don't have to think about 3/8 7/16 or 17/32 :) That kind of music is all over the place there.
Why I've never heard of Prog Bulgarian drummers then?
exactly
@@einarabelc5 cause prog rock is just crap
@@tetrusadima i think prog rock is a stupid label by people who like to classify things. It either jams or it doesnt
I'm a professional musician and I've used this with students for years as the best example of weird odd-meter stuff around.
Целият свят да се съберат немогат да изсвирят такава музика поклон!!!!!!!!
For anyone wondering, the song is "Kopanitsa" from the 1989 release "Orpheus Ascending".
More like descending....flat into the ground.
@@einarabelc5 what
His solo on the album version might be even better. Gonna be transcribing it soon
My Music Cultures of the World professor posted this video with the following message: "I also wanted to share some amazing, almost-uncountable music from the Balkans: the amazing clarinetist Ivo Papasov and his band. Not only do they keep track of lightning-fast, odd meters, but they improvise on top of it (and always seem to know where they are)." She challenged us to count the meter of this song. I. Can't. Even.
Stevie Vai brought me here.
Completely out of their minds, as he said.
People who grew up in the Western World only listening to hip Hop and Country songs will Never understand the difficulty about playing Balkan Music. There are no better musicians then Balkans
I remember switching the TV as this started, didn't know what had hit me. I assumed it was some crazed avant-garde shit, but in fact it's straight-up Bulgarian folk music: they dance to 13/8, 11/16 & all those kinda math-y time signatures there. I did sound for a Bulgarian band the other night, the crowd even clapped for an encore in 7/8!
bulgaria great this style music
It's not only Bulgaria. Whole Balkan has odd rhythm music in different time signatures. You can say that Bulgaria is in the fastest tempo 😊
I remember watching this in 1989 (GREAT TV show) and it made the hair on my arms stand on end. I had been listening to the Bulgarian Women's Chorus (also fantastic), and Andy Irvine's interpretations of Balkan Music, but I never dreamed there was music like this. It was like hearing Charlie Parker for the first time. I use this word very infrequently: this band was awesome.
And they still are awesome. I saw them live last weekend in a local club. It's the first time I drive home after a concert and turn off the radio, cause I just know that whatever they play on it would sound just stupid after what I had just heard. Amazing!
I like the premise that there's a thread of a bass line running through all this!
I'll never forget the night I woke up in the middle of the night and decided to see if there was something on the tube that would help get me back to sleep. Tuned in just as Dave introduced these guys. My life has never been the same. Where can I get more in 11, 13, or 17?
pbwbrian53 I, too, watched this after I came home from a gig the night it aired. Absolutely jaw-dropping. Don't know about you, but I sure as hell couldn't get right to sleep after hearing this!
+321snoot I too saw it that night and was recording it. Never got toired of playing it for people.
Meshuggah - Do Not Look Down is in 17
keyboard solo gets me every time. and the way the whole things just stops at the end. brilliant.
това.е.човекат.който.ме.събужда.от.сън.познавам.неговата.музика.и.на.сън.защото.няма.кой.да.свири.като.папазов.и.след.200г
just found a copy of Orpheus Ascending on vinyl. The most incredible jazz record of the 1980's, best thing that's happened to me all year! Absolute masterpiece!
Anyone who could transcribe this, and in the right time signature, would be the greatest musician of all time! ha Go Ivo!
@George Collier could possibly do a decent job of it if they decide to do it.
This performance is ridiculous.
I couldn't help but notice the woman sitting throughout and wonder what the deal is. At 2:48 She gets up, the tempo changes and I know it's about to go down, but have zero idea how. At 3:12 I really wanted the song to be over so I could start over and listen to it again.
I've spent 60 minutes listening to a 6 minute song. That drummer and those vocals really do it for me.
Full analysis is found in this book - Bulgarian Harmony In Village, Wedding, and Choral Music of the Last Century by Kalin S. Kirilov
The woman is Mariya Karafezieva, who is married to Ivo Papasov.
Omg the tempo after the key solo was on 🔥!!!!!!
I was blown away when I first saw this show ... and still am!
The greatest clarinet! His music is unhuman and yet nothing makes you feel so much like a human.
The time signature on this is crazy...they make it look so easy
This one has been on UA-cam for almost twenty years on different channels - and folks still watch it and like it, for it's just such a mindblowing performance! Just Awesome musical and technical mastery...
Dear God... My musical brain just exploded
Честит юбилей Легендо.Бъди жив и здрав ти и цялата ти фамилия.
Ivo Papazov is king!
LOVE the cadenza/Bartokian fanfare at 4:32. This band is just magical; they are all scary, twisted monsters. Ivo sounds like Coltrane on acid/crack but with more chops. And I like it when they go really fast at the end. Then there's the bass player's pants...
0 F*s given by all those guys. That's my definition of bad ass :)
Cameron Hood Bartok was very influenced by folklore, and he was Hungarian, very close to the Balkans, so this makes a lot of sense :)
Good God. That is musical insanity..... what a hero !!
The Best Bulgarian Folk Music Group 1987-95? TRAKIA..it became a pressure(can we call it this) between Popazov and saxophonist Younakov at the and. Its sad, but their story and the concerts, CD`S will forever bee there. It nice to see the friends still Papazov and his accordion player, Neshev, still plays together:) But still..I really wish old "Trakia" could do a "reunion" in 2020:) pls...with the old members:)(from summer 87..as we all know and have seen soo many times:)
Усъвършенствал кралнето номер 1 за всички времена легенда
Номер1 за всички времена
Accidently played this at 2x speed and it felt like my brain was melting!
Даде тон в музиката и всички го имитират, кой - по сполучливо, кой по-малко, жив и здрав да е Ибряма!
Those guys are GODS!!!
БРАВО!
now this is my kinda wedding im hiring them 100%
This definitely goes on my funeral music spot. Wedding or funeral, which when i think about it is kind of the same.
Up next on 'So you think you can play the clarinet'
That’s right ;) greetings from Bulgaria
Check this one. Another crazy jazz performance from them... ua-cam.com/video/i3FfXjcw6Mk/v-deo.html
No one that has danced to this has ever lived to tell the tale
In fact, all of us who dance to such music in Bulgaria are pretty alive and in good health. And it is not as impossible to dance to such music as many Westerners think, but it is certainly difficult. You can see two examples of dancing on the "Kopanitza" (the type of dance that Ivo and his band play here in 11/16 time signature ). Usually it starts slow and then its getting faster.
The fastest part start in 2:13:
ua-cam.com/video/1qYh-dJriIc/v-deo.htmlsi=6KA5L6PDVDTdzTV-
Here the fun start at 1:56:
ua-cam.com/video/8fhUTEEcFdE/v-deo.htmlsi=kq4NwIjn0kxp7egd
Bloody amazing phrasing and speed
Thanks Steve Vai, Very Cool
one of the guitarists Steve Vai?
@@moonlight_94
Steve said he's a fan of this because it doesn't resemble Western music at all 😂
aachh achh , what great music this is, like from another planet, with never ending energy
Right before the 4:32 mark, the guitarist is rockin out and has this face like he's getting ready to rip into some mean riffs, then he strums just a basic chord progression that's the slowest part of the whole song!!! Cracked Up!!!
Welcome to our Balkan world 😀😀💪💪
I want the kind of swagger that shoulder-organ guy has
🤣🤣🤣
That's an accordion
@@johnnysuede3156 you're an accordion
Shoulder Organ LMAOOO :D
The keyboard solo made so casual that it could leave cory henry like that "disoriented john travolta" meme
Quanti qui per la puntata di Tintoria con Alex Britti?
Actually, Bulgarian players don't count it quite the same way... e.g. 7/16 they simply count as 3 with a longish three. e.g. 1,2,3_; 1,2,3_ . Or 11/16, is 1,2,3_,4,5, etc, etc.
Spot on explanation 👌 Bravo from the Balkans!
Thomas Green Yep, it's like one,two, thre-e-e, one,two,thre-e-e !
Thomas Green that’s not right. There is a fantastic way to play the rithm, but your english 4/4 can never understand. There’s something like 7/8, 11/12, 7+7+7+4, or 7+5/8....
That's correct. But the dancers...this tempo...😲😲😲
Depends on the song!
The one-two-threee you described is casually called as a masculine Rachenitsa, but we also have a feminine Rachenitsa which is counted with a long first beat - oneeee-two-three.
I feel like im being chased by little people in a maze and cant get out...
Actually, kopanica is a kind of a very lively, powerful group dance
somewhat psychotic little people, but not too terribly aggressive
@@jag0937eb Why little?
@@MsSlucyna IDK, ask Neil Tipton , it's his little people.
Did everybody dance? I love this music. I call it dancin' in yo head. Don't try to capture it, just let it flow.
ivo droppin fire fr 🔥
Thanx Bill burr fer tha recommendation 🎉
Wtf😂Where did he recommend this song?
Where did he say this
all they are great musicians - im listening Ivo&Co Ltd already many years, but this percussionist - 7th wonder at least.
Imagine being a snake and this man just pulls up with his clarinette
İVO PAPAZOV NOMER EDNO 👍👍👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏
Frenk Zappa will love this shit!!!!
this is pretty much the greatest thing ever. EVER.
btw, the song is 'na trapesa' from the album 'orpheus ascending'.
scioccato!! impressionante
Came to this after reading Ode to a Tenor Titan: The Life and Times of Michael Brecker. He was getting into this music at the end of his life. Almost sounds like something from the mind of Frank Zappa!
Cannot comprehend...overheating...
And to think they can probably pull off a five-hour session like this...
Being a Serbian neighbor and musician who's played and listened to a fair share of Balkan folk music in nonstandard time signatures, it still makes me wonder how the hell they manage to learn tunes like this note-by-note and not spend 50% of their lives sitting in a room staring at sheet music.
Funny thing is that if you even ask them about notes sheets, they'd probably wonder what that is. Most of the greatest Bulgarian musicians never went to musical school or the like, they just picked up the instrument at a very early age and by their teens, they were already playing at weddings. Growing up in Bulgaria I can tell you, weddings are insane, they can literary last around the clock. It's crazy but magical!
крца и после оволико година! :Д
Actually Ivo told in one interview that on one wedding he made 12 hour playing 3 hour sleep and than playing again
Late Michael Brecker was crazy about this music, and here one can understand why! He even took lessons
I like the "stinger" at the end after all that came before it. (a stinger is the very last note they played) Hilarious.
This doesn't stop blowing my mind after so many years. What amazes me the most is that, while this piece is extremely clear from a harmony standpoint (there are several key center changes - modulations - that don't take much effort to detect for a somewhat trained ear), the rhythm is a complete puzzle for those of us who aren't immersed in Balkan music culture. The only thing I've never liked is the tone of the sax player, which sounds like a duck to me. But that's really nitpicking for such an unbeatable performance.
Who's here thanks to Adam? BASS
me
Billy Trespassers the lick in 5/8 that’s on that thumbnails actually fun to plau
Me, and so thankful. Immediately hooked. This shit is wild
Amazing! I can't follow this at all, and even thought I was going to struggle to get into it at the start, but you just let it go and it all falls into place.
The only other Ivo Papasov song I know is Hristianova Kopanitsa (thanks to John Peel), and that's amazing.
I NEED A CD OF THIS
I wonder how many people looked up Bulgarian wedding music because of Steve Vai?
Zappa worthy...
Vai never got it right, and few westerners ever do. In Bulgaria odd signatures r interpreted differently. For example one of most beloved folk dances "rachenitza" is in 7/8 and and it goes 1, 2, 3ee with prolonged 3. Cheers
Bravoo 👍👍
The most irrationally intense music on earth.
Thanx Mr.Vai
kralj !!!
I need a bride that can accurately dance to this
Try"bulgarian know how to dance"
3:47 epic solo
Master Papaz!
Awesome.
Makes sense when you're going so fast, when you think about it.
now i k what steve via was saying WOW
what the...
haha.. I came here also after watching Vai! ;) and yeah... this is some crazy stuff!.. hahaha... Im glad Im not Bulgarian or going to marry there :P I mean, I doubt every "wedding musician" has this quality!, and theres nothing worse than playing this kind of music poorly... that would be very ear damaging! :P Kudos to Ivo Papasov and his wedding band.. not bad at all... but crazy! :P
btw... if you want to hear even more of his music.. search for: Иво Папазов
O'lBilly Bulgarian drumming fan...
You've got it all wrong...
It starts with 18/16 (it's acutally 7/16 + 11/16) 3 bars
Then 6/16 4 bars. This repeats twice. Then 18/16 2 bars and 7/16 4 bars. This also repeats twice. Next is 16 bars of 7/16. Then 6 bars of 15/16 and a 2 bar break in 9/16. It then runs into 9/16 and keeps going until 2:37 where this absurd break appears. The break goes 2 bars of 12/16 and 2 bars of 15/16 repeated twice. It then goes into 2/4 (or more precisely 6/16?!?) and runs like this until the end.
4/4????
thx, this cleared everything. Now, where is my calculator
This is sort of like an explanation of Tenet.
This song is on their C.D. orpheous ascending, but this versiion is 10000x better.
Fastest band in the west, uh, east.
I want this played at my funeral while being lowered into the earth.
some of the craziest shit ive ever heard
Thanks Bill
I'm here because of Steve Vai XD
Zappa boi
I know the vocals are the focus when she starts singing at 3:04 however that sliding bass line in the background is beautifully sad
Even at 0.75× speed this is neck-breaking.
not being rude but who cares??....this is just fantastic!
Goooooooing up!
wooooow!!!
Apparently Steve Vai takes some inspiration from music like this for his quirky kinda guitar licks. :)
Grazie ad Alex Britti per avermi portato qui
Steve Vai brought me here
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