@@DeltaStormYT It's a ponzi scheme, they never expect you to use the insurance and they will do everything they legally can from doing so even when you need it the most.
What do you mean "some shortminded technocrat taken over, stealing, and displacing jobs with automation for a fictitious altruistic purpose" villain, is thankfully fictional?
@@defaulted9485 a literal supervillain that builds impossible gadgets and robots is fictional. An evil company executive is real. I’m fairly certain personalities weren’t taken into account when writing that comment.
An aspect that I don't see when describing Mr Incredible is how intelligent he is. Sure he has super strength but he's able to use it while problem solving on his feet. In the case of this video Bob knows the best and sneakiest ways to give his customers what they're owed which requires knowledge of company policy and law to keep himself and his customers out of trouble.
Absolutely! Something I realized the last time I watched the Incredibles is that even though there’s clear influence from tons of different comic book heroes in it, I actually can’t think of a character like Mr. Incredible that exists anywhere in comics. Yes he’s a family man, but in his prime, he’s presented almost like a James Bond archetype. Fast cars, nice suits and suave, masculine charisma. The scene where he’s sneaking around Syndrome’s base, discovering his evil plan by putting together clues and cracking the code to his console is right out of a Bond film. He’s like a vintage 60’s era secret agent with super strength, which is a really fun idea for a character. Obviously the whole movie drips with spy movie influence, but I just think it’s neat how by using so much from so many sources, they created a character who feels so fresh and unique within the superhero genre.
@@peytonalexander5300Closest thing is probably Superman tbh. Superman is known for his big amount of powers but he is pretty smart himself and a lot of golden age stuff was a mix of random bullshit go but also 'ah but you see, I outsmarted you by doing the thing that is unlikely that you overlooked'
@@taekinuru2 I'm too young to outright dismiss what Superman meant for so many people. For instance my older brothers loved the show Smallville. But we all know Superman's powers are BS and having too much power isn't good for plot, and later flaws and vulnerabilities were introduced haphazardly to try and fix this problem. I personally prefer the short fun story of Bruce Almighty over the Superman stories I've seen. My point is, if Superman's powers are virtually beyond limit or comprehension, your suspension of disbelief has to be so much higher that his super-Intelligence can just be assumed. The ultimate Good should be free of almost any limitations. I think I don't like Superman because he's strictly an alien. Good writing can make his stories compelling by showing his "Humanity" as exceptional and capacity for good exceeding that of the average man (which isn't that inspiring to me)... a Great contrasting story is that of Metroman and Megamind (zoomer take, I know), where both characters' underlying motivations are subverted and allow for actual Growth.
One of the major themes Pixar was going for in Incredibles was the contrast between the mundane and the fantastic. Syndrome is the fantastical villian while Mr. Huph is the villian of the mundane.
Syndrome also blurs the line because he was so good at providing for the mundane (weapons) he achieved fantastical status (buying a private island, advanced tech, a super suit, robots, acting childish and no one punishing him because he had the power to never be told no) and everyone in the island was working for a price, again, using the mundane he transforms it into the fantastical. Using money, something Mr. Humph teases Bob with at the beginning of the film, he manages to beat the fantastical and become the new fantastical.
Surprised no mention of him being physically short and small compared to the size of Bob symbolically shows how much further Mr. Incredible has been forced to bend to the will of someone in complete power despite having clearly minimal physical strength or build
It honestly works as satire : Mr. Incredible is incredible , He supports his family , he is selfless objectively a great guy who will be remembered fondly ... Mr. Huph is a squiggle he is forgettable and annoying
2 other things not mentioned in the video. 1. The elderly woman Bob is helping with her insurance cover is the same woman he once helped years ago as a superhero to rescue her cat. 2. The mugger after attacking the random civilian doesn't even take anything from them. We see them examine the wallet and see nothing of value in it before discarding it. So Bob had to witness an innocent person who he could have helped get beaten up for ultimately nothing, meaning the robber was probably going to just attack someone else instead too.
@@IMightBeError They might have off screen but the most we see is them pickup the wallet and check it before throwing it away a second later. We never actually see them take anything out of it.
My favorite quote is during the mugging scene. Bob: “hey, there’s a guy out there getting mugged!” Huph: *”Well in that case let’s hope we don’t cover him!!”* Like OK. WOW.
Not just one company or policy, it's the sin of human nature. The greed, the pride, the lust, the sloth all of 7 which degrades human nature, inflicting society or person or person on power.
And then the most dastardly line related to todays standards... "We're supposed to help the people!" "We're supposed to help OUR PEOPLE, Bob! Starting with our stockholders! Who's helping them huh?"
Conformity is the main antagonistic force of The Incredibles: "when everyone's super, no one will be" "Everyone's special, dash" "that's just another way of saying no one is" And what does Mr. Huph do? He enacts conformity every step of the way; his fingernails are perfectly trimmed, the five pencils on his desk perfectly in line and perfectly sharpened all the exact same amount, even the memo on his desk threatening insuricare employees not to take office supplies is perfectly aligned. He proceeds to rant at Bob about fitting into a perfect, clock-like system of a company, all while Bob's moral impetus to stick out, to NOT conform but go above and beyond, crime that goes unpunished, is taunted in front of Bob's eyes, and he knows he COULD stop it, he SHOULD stop it, but to do so would not conform, and so even though he could, even though it eats away at him, conformity wins, and the robber gets away. When Huph, a manifestation of evil thriving in conformity antagonizes him a little further, Bob snaps, and throws him through walls. A person so exceptional forced into such conformity just CANNOT succeed.
Two things I noticed as well was the four clocks on the wall, and chart. The chart no doubt is related to profits or the company, but it shows a nearly flat, horizontal line. It's like the company it's self is not allowed to be special or terrible, just a bland existence of doing enough to not fail.
@purple781 I can't believe I have to use the term "media literacy" unironically but it seems I do, and that is something you need to learn. They were trying to get across as much info as possible about Insuricare, and what Bob has to deal with nearly every day. Not just a boring office job, but an *unethical* boring office job.
I like to imagine that he was rewatching the film to forget his health problems for a while. Then watching that scene tipped him over the edge "thats it ill do it myself"
Can we talk about the bit where Hugh grabs Bob by the jaw? The little bastard has such a _need_ to exert his own power and authority over other people that he doesn't hesitate to literally manhandle someone three or four times his size, just to make them pay attention to his monologue.
@@Malevolence460 I don't know if it would because the retaliation happened a little bit afterwards after Huph had let go, also the courts would probably see throwing someone through a wall almost killing them as being unproportionable to the chin grab.
He's also the kind of evil we're more likely to encounter ourselves. While most villains aspire to be as evil as our greatest, very few people are actually Hitler.
@@tminusboom2140, who do you think financed Hitler's rise to dominance and, consequently, his rampage against Poland, the jews, soviets and basically the entirety of Europe, right?
@@Lolxlol21_ no, Scrooge was more proactive in his evil. It wasn’t that he was villainous, something just happened in between his happy youth, and his angry old age that made him only care about money. If I were to hazard to guess, it was likely hearing those sob stories of destitute people, and being determined that it would never happen to him slowly morphing into lust for money. Bob Marley probably wasn’t a good influence either
This and the SpongeBob Scene where the hospital keeps kicking Mr Krabs out because of his lack of insurance. Funny how all the Incredible and SpongeBob scenes vids that used to allow comments, have recently been labeled to YT Kids lol
@@chakraborty1989 Orrr, they were already muted because youtube’s been doing this for clips from anything categorized as “for kids” for years now, as dumb as it is.
I also love the contrast between him and Syndrome (and the other villains in general). Not every evil guy can be defeated by punching him. An evil mime with bombs? A geek with killer robots? Yeah just fight them. Your boss? That’s a different story. Bob gives him exactly what he deserves. But in doing so, gets in a ton of trouble. It shows the contrast that you can’t beat all evil by just punching them
Quite the opposite. His mistake was not just outright offing him imo. If you are going to lash out, make sure they never live to tell the tale or are able to harm someone ever again.
@@ethanduncan1646 Killing him wouldn't have been easy to hide though, plus it wouldn't fit Mr. Incredible's character to intentionally execute him for that alone. It makes more sense that he gave him the whooping of a lifetime but almost went overboard and killed him in the heat of the moment.
@@Chicky_Lumps additionally, it would not have stopped the next Boss who would rise to run the coporation. Insura-care is designed to be exploitative, meaning that many of the upper ranks of the company share that mindset, especially with how upfront Mr. Hugh was with "The law requires that I answer no." So, let's say Bob killed Mr. Hugh, then Mr. Hugh's next in line moves up, takes over the company, and the pain continues. It would require a mass lawsuit to cripple the company. IE: Not Mr. Incredible. It would take a guy in a grey suit and a briefcase to take down Insura-care.
@@Chicky_Lumps Its not about hiding it. If you are already going on for assault against some asshole who deserves it and will always be morally bankrupt no matter what might as well follow through. You are already going to prison might as well do some good while you are at it.
I just realized that Huph is gonna have to be forced to go through the same twisted system that Bob helped others through. But this time, there will be no Bob Parr to guide Huph through every loophole & obstacle
With his sallery he probably has a different company with a better premium and policy that only takes candidates via private referrals. It's remarkable how much better a service gets when it's an exclusive club you need to be an upstanding member of.
In my opinion, one of the most vexing things about Mr. Huph's narrative is that Bob, despite all his best efforts and intentions, is not able to put an end to Huph's exploitation of his clients and / or employees - without losing his job, that is. Any actions that Bob could take to undermine Mr. Huph would simply put his own family in financial trouble. Huph basically uses Bob's family as a hostage against him, and he doesn't even have to violate the law like a common criminal.
It all goes back to, "If you are punished for doing good things you are run by evil people." Which is why people eventually need to rebel against the system but I digress.
One detail I notice with that scene is the fact that Bob literally could not have helped the mugging victim either way. He doesn't have super speed; even if he went at a full sprint out of the office and ran down the stairs, by the time he got out of the office, the mugger would have been long gone. It emphasizes even further how frustrated he is that he would lose his temper and lose his job over not being allowed to help someone who he literally could not have helped anyway.
@@spongeintheshoe indeed. but he was not allowed to do either... he was forced to stay in that office and take the talking to from that little tool (who seemed to enjoy how much power he has over someone like Bob) and so the mugger got away without any interferance any number of things could have been done to stop what happened... but bob was left helpless to help a man he could help. he could have done something... but his boss won't let him. So you can understand very much why bob at the end of his tether finally just snaps and throws his boss through several walls.
Tbh he could have made it. After all, he does have super strength... He probably could have left the office, found a quiet part of the floor and hopped out the window and land in the ally. But yeah sucks since that didn’t happen...
Even if his situation was depressing, it was still nice to see Mr Incredible/Bob was still fighting for the common man. Be either beating super villains or helping his clients navigating through the traps of a crooked insurance company.
Part of it I think is with the themes of trying to rise above mediocrity if you will. You see, Bob is actually doing his job well, and is once again finding himself being punished for not being mediocre.
I’m not sure if it’s about being mediocre but more like Bob is being heavily “encouraged” to screw his clients out of as much money as possible which goes against his very being as a superhero.
@@jeffythesomething8772 It literally goes against the point of an insurance company. Sure there's a lot of legal bullshit, but at it's most basic concept an insurance company is something you pay a recurring fee to with the expectation that if you do end up in a tough financial spot such as what the specific insurance is for such as car, home, or life, they pay you a certain amount to help you quickly deal with the sudden financial need brought on by the costly incident. Mr Huph is illegally going against this, using a bunch of legal bullshit to keep people liek the old lady giving Insuracare money but not having to dish out as much as they'd actually need to. I'd cut ties to that company if I was a customer and if I worked there I'd quite. I'm surprised they're still afloat with how shitty they are. Must have really good PR backing them to keep negativity at bay.
Not exactly. The point of mr Huph corporate ideology is to make the deals of his company as favorable for them as possible at the expense of the clients. Bob, however, is having none of that. Plus, Huph is clearly one of those guys who gets pleasure of having control and throwing his weight around. Of course a boss like that is gonna hate someone like mr Incredible.
@@user-unos111 With Bob, his job *in theory* is to help people. However, he's being punished for doing "his job" too well, if you will. In fairness there's definitely more to it than that, but it's an element of it.
In the film commentary, Brad Bird mentions that one animator REALLY wanted to animate the scene where Bob finally snaps and grabs Mr Huph by the neck. He suspected that said animator had issues with a previous boss that they were channeling into their work.
I used to feel bad for him getting thrown through so many walls and ending up hospitalized. I mean yeah for that I feel bad for him, but I never realized just how bad of a guy he actually was.
As a kid I saw him as a mean boss who wouldn’t even call the cops for a mugging happening in front of him. As an adult I saw his actual business model and realized this guy is worse than I realized
I knew something was wrong with him when he didn't care that a person was getting assaulted and mugged outside his office, and stopped bob from trying to help
Same, but I was a kid back then. DIdn't really understand the hardships of being an adult. Even grade 10-12, I had a number 1 best friend explain how bad the world is, I still didn't get it, which is pathetic, but when I entered college. I started to go like wait a minute, my number 1 best friend was spitting out sense here. And I have been apologetic since college and onwards towards him. Kind of seeing how I was being an ass to someone that was just getting me down to Earth about the real world.
If you think he's bad in the movie... *_HE'S WORSE IN THE ORIGINAL SCRIPT_* I will quote an exerp from Brad Bird's original screenplay, page 37 : 《 Huph follows Bob's gaze to the window. On the street, the larger man clubs the smaller man with a mace. He crumples to the sidewalk. Huph jerks Bob's face back towards his-- 》 He was not only _concious_ of the mugging, witnessed it himself, and _willingly chose to ignore it,_ but the mugging was *_FAR MORE BRUTAL_* than the few melodramatic punches we saw in the movie. Huph saw a hepless man being beaten half to death and chose to _look past it_ to get back to scolding his employee for helping those in need like the victim on the other side of the glass.
Its probably because I had an unnecessarily dark imagination as a kid. But I always thought the guy died. So the scene upset me probably as much as bob himself.
My lawyer advised me not to comment my personal opinions on real life matters but… this is a great video demonstrating antagonism that isn’t often or even relevant to most media
4:35 Did anyone ever noticed that Bob is literally in a tight space just by observing his cubicle compared to others? Doesn't it also make sense as a key symbolism of all the pressure and challenges he faced everyday of his life since when he resigned being a superhero for 15years?
@@byronsmothers8064 Now that's another key symbolic feature. It seems the makers really sat down and thought this through. No wonder the movie was really a huge hit in the cinema.
Mr Gilbert Huph is the most realistic villain in The Incredibles series . He is more realistic than Syndrome , Bomb Voyage, Screenslaver or the Underminer. His power is manipulation, bribery and dishonesty rather than a super power like strength or speed. People will more likely encounter a corrupt boss than fighting a criminal.
My family was denied money *three times* by their insurance companies, one for a serious medical emergency and two for natural catastrophes that damaged their hotel business. They always required paper after paper, certificate after certificate and dragged the whole process before giving some bullshit excuse and denying us the money. Sue them you say? The case would drag on for years and it would cost more money than you actually lost. Even if you won, it would not be worth it. Mr Huph was probably not the CEO of those companies, but he definitely trained their managers.
It's not often that I am able to make the most out of a single set of scenes and elaborate on their details, let alone in a movie like this. Massive respect.
In my case, the incredibles is a popular and iconic movie, this was also one of the first scenes of the movie. I thought about the scene and looked it up and it’s being searched a lot
I think the worst part is how realistic of a character Gilbert Huph is. There are so many bosses, managers, and corporate executives in real life that are just like Mr. Huph and get away with it.
This has only gotten more relevant with time, and in the last month it's become EXTREMELY relevant. Also... "Your life is in our hands" is absolutely a slogan an insurance company would brand themselves with and it's so, goddamn, dystopian, AGHHH, Disney will never let this kind of quality fly anymore
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Thanks. I've actually had a couple of videos that have done reasonably well, I just can't seem to get those kind of results consistently. The algorithm giveth and the algorithm taketh away, I suppose.
When Mr. Huph was lecturing Bob on how a company is like a clock that only works when properly maintained and when all the components fit together, he wasn't simply spouting corporate rhetoric; he was outright being a hypocrite. Bob was stealthily guiding the clients through a broken, bureaucratic system that was built to frustrate them into submission, thus helping to fix the system and getting it to run like a well-oiled machine, enabling the clients to get what they're owed. But because that meant less profits for Insuracare and its shareholders, Mr. Huph was absolutely seething over the fact.
I may be stretching it but I like how there seems to be a slight mirrored duality between Mr Hoff/Insuricare and Syndrome. Both claim to help people, with the former providing insurance and the latter being a hero, but they both have terrible motivations, with the former only interested in money and the later with the glory and usurping his idol, both instead of actually caring for the people.
In the world of The Incredibles, superhumans using their incredible gifts to help people when no one else can is forbidden but parasites like Mr. Huph and his insurance company exploiting customers for money is perfectly fine.
@@hebercluff1665 no bathroom breaks while on shift, working unrealistic speeds, meeting impossible quotas, worked sortation and had a hard time keeping up despite going real fast
I remember reading this writing prompt answer-about a super hero who, rather than directly participating in typical hero work, instead uses his powers of matter manipulation to repair damages after your typical super powered brawl. It starts off hopeful, with him utilizing his powers to restore livelihoods that'd usually be lost as he repairs the homes of those caught in the crossfire of those caught between villain hero showdowns, but as it progresses, it becomes steadily clear just how much the system itself is failing, pushing back at his attempts to fix homelessness. Finally, he snaps, beginning to destroy stadiums built over people's homes, rejecting a stark esqu hero request to build a base from which he could build a surveillance system, and otherwise demolishing suites and other luxurious housings to create housing for the people that need it. Eventually the 'heroes' are sent to stop him. He loses, because he simply never used his powers for actual combat. As he sits in his cell, he wonders if all the villains he's next to were exactly like him. With that thought, he rises up, breaks his cell with his powers, and quickly leads a revolt.
I'm not a huge fan of most rich people, but this prompt started off sounding interesting then just devolved into French Revolution political daydreaming.
@@lordfelidae4505 I think the implication of the line is that it's not the physical strength or amount of power of the bully that makes them a bully, it's that they lack the moral strength to not be a bully. But it's such a short and vague line that it's easy to read some worrying stuff into it. Plus, it lacks nuance (something that's true for most aphorisms)
@@lordfelidae4505 A statement can be true even when said by someone who uses it as part of a messed-up ideology, what makes the ideology messed-up is the parts that are not true and the fallacious logic that constitutes the rest of it. You can disagree with a statement, but I encourage you to develop why, instead of limiting yourself to "a bad guy said it". Otherwise you risk falling into other kinds of messed-up ideologies.
@@brreakfastYTumm this is a head honcho of an insurance company. A pretty horrible insurance company. Does that strike any bells concerning recent events?
Well, not exactly. He works perfectly in his role as someone who enforces the mundane. Screensaver was someone who wanted everybody to forge their own paths and not need dependence. I know the sequel gets a lot of flack, and the criticisms on how the B plot was a bit too big as well as screenslaver's execution do hold up. However, that villain WORKED. Mr. Huph is the exact opposite of Screenslaver. He doesn't need exceptions in his company. He needs a well-oiled machine, one that functions only because no piece is able to tell the time of his giant clock by themselves.
I still think Incredibles 2 is pretty much as great as the original. It isn’t quite as deeply thematic, but it still has the same atmosphere. Screenslaver is a cool villain, but the competition is Syndrome so naturally Evelyn isn’t going to be as good.
The Incredibles is one of those movies I can watch several times over and still pick up on new details over 20 years later. I'm always happy to see people still talking about the movie.
"An insurance company is supposed to help those in need" Actually, an insurance company is supposed to make money. That's it. That's the purpose of any company under the system we live in. It just so happens that insurance companies make more money when they deny healthcare.
@@DracoMagnius 🤣😂You're not wrong there. Most company executives now-a-days are probably much like him. They probably wouldn't care if there was a murder in progess right outside their window.
Remember - the only way insurance companies make a profit is by denying claims. The idea of health insurance is ludicrous, as you will NEED to claim it. Insurance is only useful as is when there is a CHANCE you will need it.
The more I think of it, spending money on something you can claim to have, but never use how you want, insurance begins to sound an awful lot like NFTs...
This is not correct. Insurance companies generally make a profit by charging the average policy holder more than the average policy holder will use per time period. Denying claims is one way to reduce the "average policy holder usage" part, but it is by no means necessary. Insurance companies are entirely capable of operating purely like a giant emergency savings account for large numbers of people, letting policy holders who don't use it much subsidize those that suddenly encountered giant healthcare costs, and skimming a bit off the top - it just makes competitive rates harder to achieve.
I feel like one of the reason's that superhero's were banned was so they could never learn that there are even worse villains on the other side of the Law and do something about it.
I mean the movie was pretty explicit that it was cheaper for insurance to pay out to the victims of supervillains than it was for the government to pay for the damages to infrastructure caused by so called heros. I feel like there's a bit of subtle commentary there.
To be fair, Brian Thompson did not deserve to be shot. I’d imply a different and more deserving demise, but that would be “breaking the 4th wall,” much like Mr. Huph’s body.
In a world of superheroes, there are supervillains and everyday villains. That's what I like in any superhero project; it shows that each different villain requires a different approach from the hero. Fighting a supervillain works, but fighting your antagonistic boss... Not so much
Mr. Incredible used to help people; he used to help them out with major or mundane things (such as the scene where he gets the old lady’s kitten from a tree and stops a robbery). But now he’s not allowed to be a superhero, so he still tries to help people with more mundane problems, but his job actively encourages him to screw over clients instead of helping them. He used to help people with their problems, now he’s heavily encouraged to BE a problem for people. His frustration is extremely understandable.
This is simply my take on this, but the paper on the desk while Mr. Huph is lecturing Bob isn't shown so that the audience can read it and see how evil the company is, but rather the focus is on Mr. Huph's body language in that moment. Just like the pencils, the man is so orderly that he has become predictable. The adjustment of the paper is a visual signal for Bob that a line he's heard before, enough times where he's memorized the exact movement of the paper that precedes it, is on its way. Hence, he predicts Mr. Huph's words and parrots them alongside him, much to Mr. Huph's pleasure. The shot's composition (from Bob's POV) is as it is in order to convey to the audience that this is a detail Bob is noticing and reacting to. Admittedly, it's rather amazing that Pixar took the time to write out the entire memo despite its primary purpose likely being that of a visual signal to the audience that Mr. Huph's personality is predictable and life-draining.
I'm surprised Bob didn't go full villain, ignoring the law and declaring himself an arbiter of justice. Imagine that for a movie, a Hero who went rogue because his desire to save the innocent outweighed the law.
But isn’t what you described essentially what he did? After the anti-hero law was put in place, he was sneaking around looking for trouble under the cover of darkness with Frozone, going as far as to use their powers against law enforcement, then Bob got himself caught up in Syndrome’s hero-snuffing schemes under the pretence of being a professional undercover vigilante. He WAS going rogue, but had the incentive to do it secretively for the sake of his family and not blowing their cover. The only way Bob would end up “full villain” would be if he were to completely disregard his family for his own gain, and that isn’t in Bob’s nature at all. Maybe you could play with the idea of him being driven clinically insane, but I don’t see that happening when he has such a loving family to fall back on.
Between energy crisis stuff in Monsters Inc., existentialism in Toy Story, environmentalism in Wall-E, and insurance bullshit in The Incredibles, early-Pixar has been absurdly ahead of the curve for the kids' understanding.
The scene with the paper does have one particular purpose. It pairs with things such as him straightening the pencils. The specific action he's taking with the paper is to straighten it out on the desk. This gives us some insight as to his personality. We know through his words and facial expressions that he's a greedy narcissist and sadistic control freak, but through the little gestures such as with the pencils and paper we can also tell he's something of an obsessive perfectionist who desires all within his control to be in perfect order. Everything in its place exactly down even to the precise orientation. This pairs nicely with what he's reprimanding Bob for. Bob correctly states that he's been a model employee who has fulfilled his legal obligations down to the letter, but this isn't how his boss views his role. His goal is to make money at any cost and never spend it, going so far as to design his business model around it being as close to impossible for customers to get any payout they deserve as possible. Bob providing a means for customers to actually get what they are owed puts him "out of line" in the eyes of his boss like a tilted pencil, and the reprimanding is meant to adjust his behavior to get him "straightened out" in line with his boss's ambitions.
I absolutely love the office note for two reasons: 1) The implication of the letter is that Mr. Huph is more concerned with having the company pay for his parking and office supplies then the wellfare of his fellow man. 2) The fact that you would never know this unless you paused the film and read it.
I wish the person I was on the phone with today could’ve helped me like how Bob helped that old woman. She sounded so sorry for me when I asked if there was anything I could do, crying, and there was this beat of silence where I could feel the weight she must feel, since I’m sure I’m not the only one to call in tears.
9:10 - 10:15 Some dreamworks animator/graphic designer is crying tears of joy as you read and appreciate this long-lost cutting room floor tragedy. As small a detail as this is, thank you for bringing this to my attention.
i dont think bob is bored when talking to the old lady. he just knows he isn't supposed to help her and he's trying to overcome his empathy towards her. you can even see the moment he breaks on his face.
"The law requires that I answer no." is genuinely an evil line and is telling of Insuracare's true motivations.
WELL LET'S HOPE WE DON'T COVER HIM
A true definition of lawful evil. You absolutely can follow every rule and still be a horrible person.
And what is your experience with “insurances true motivations” or are you just spouting crap?
@@DeltaStormYT It's a ponzi scheme, they never expect you to use the insurance and they will do everything they legally can from doing so even when you need it the most.
@@DeltaStormYT He was talking about the fictional company.
Villains like Syndrome, are thankfully fictional.
Villains like Mr. Huph, are unfortunately very real.
This comment is good.
@@knellycornnan5132 Thanks!
What do you mean "some shortminded technocrat taken over, stealing, and displacing jobs with automation for a fictitious altruistic purpose" villain, is thankfully fictional?
@@defaulted9485 a literal supervillain that builds impossible gadgets and robots is fictional. An evil company executive is real. I’m fairly certain personalities weren’t taken into account when writing that comment.
@@defaulted9485 And I assume there was someone specific you were refering to?
"Exploiting every loophole. Dodging every obstacle."
Boy, look at his body language. It just looks so... Villainous.
only slightly hampered by the camera angle
He's literally a mini-Hitler.
They're penatrating the beaucrocy!
@@austinmccormick8952 Did I do something illegal?...
@@robensmonteau161 (strained while speaking through clenched teeth)nno
The best (or worst) part of Insuracare’s portrayal, is the fact that many insurance companies _genuinely_ operate like that.
It is infuriating and depressing what society allows big businesses to get away with because "they're supposed to make profits."
@@KibblezanBitz I could not agree more!
Yeh but that’s the only way it could work in capitalism, not to say that the state would do better.
@@SteinBee do better by not requiring health insurance
Yeh but then you have to pay out of pocket
An aspect that I don't see when describing Mr Incredible is how intelligent he is. Sure he has super strength but he's able to use it while problem solving on his feet. In the case of this video Bob knows the best and sneakiest ways to give his customers what they're owed which requires knowledge of company policy and law to keep himself and his customers out of trouble.
Absolutely! Something I realized the last time I watched the Incredibles is that even though there’s clear influence from tons of different comic book heroes in it, I actually can’t think of a character like Mr. Incredible that exists anywhere in comics.
Yes he’s a family man, but in his prime, he’s presented almost like a James Bond archetype. Fast cars, nice suits and suave, masculine charisma. The scene where he’s sneaking around Syndrome’s base, discovering his evil plan by putting together clues and cracking the code to his console is right out of a Bond film. He’s like a vintage 60’s era secret agent with super strength, which is a really fun idea for a character.
Obviously the whole movie drips with spy movie influence, but I just think it’s neat how by using so much from so many sources, they created a character who feels so fresh and unique within the superhero genre.
Honestly another reason why the incredibles 2 falls flat
@@peytonalexander5300Closest thing is probably Superman tbh. Superman is known for his big amount of powers but he is pretty smart himself and a lot of golden age stuff was a mix of random bullshit go but also 'ah but you see, I outsmarted you by doing the thing that is unlikely that you overlooked'
@@peytonalexander5300 i honestly think he's an idealized captain america.
@@taekinuru2 I'm too young to outright dismiss what Superman meant for so many people. For instance my older brothers loved the show Smallville.
But we all know Superman's powers are BS and having too much power isn't good for plot, and later flaws and vulnerabilities were introduced haphazardly to try and fix this problem.
I personally prefer the short fun story of Bruce Almighty over the Superman stories I've seen.
My point is, if Superman's powers are virtually beyond limit or comprehension, your suspension of disbelief has to be so much higher that his super-Intelligence can just be assumed. The ultimate Good should be free of almost any limitations.
I think I don't like Superman because he's strictly an alien. Good writing can make his stories compelling by showing his "Humanity" as exceptional and capacity for good exceeding that of the average man (which isn't that inspiring to me)... a Great contrasting story is that of Metroman and Megamind (zoomer take, I know), where both characters' underlying motivations are subverted and allow for actual Growth.
One of the major themes Pixar was going for in Incredibles was the contrast between the mundane and the fantastic. Syndrome is the fantastical villian while Mr. Huph is the villian of the mundane.
Syndrome also blurs the line because he was so good at providing for the mundane (weapons) he achieved fantastical status (buying a private island, advanced tech, a super suit, robots, acting childish and no one punishing him because he had the power to never be told no) and everyone in the island was working for a price, again, using the mundane he transforms it into the fantastical. Using money, something Mr. Humph teases Bob with at the beginning of the film, he manages to beat the fantastical and become the new fantastical.
To a lesser degree, I think Bernie Kropp is also another villain of the mundane.
@@OnePlayer480Oof. Reminds me of someone in particular…
@@GillfigGarstangRIP Brian Thompson
The irony that a literal Pixar villain is just a lesser version of a United Healthcare CEO
I was not the only person who got this recommended because of United Healthcare
better not piss off luigi
Surprised no mention of him being physically short and small compared to the size of Bob symbolically shows how much further Mr. Incredible has been forced to bend to the will of someone in complete power despite having clearly minimal physical strength or build
An analogy for those who failed upwards. And all it could really be because God forbid we show the actual people who are currently failing upwards.
It honestly works as satire :
Mr. Incredible is incredible ,
He supports his family , he is selfless objectively a great guy who will be remembered fondly ...
Mr. Huph is a squiggle he is forgettable and annoying
Shows how power comes in many forms
@@davidegaruti2582In the latino spanish/mexican dub, Mr. Huph is known as "Mr. Anger" (Señor Rabia).
Yep. That’s what I was thinking to. A bull, bowing to a dog.
2 other things not mentioned in the video.
1. The elderly woman Bob is helping with her insurance cover is the same woman he once helped years ago as a superhero to rescue her cat.
2. The mugger after attacking the random civilian doesn't even take anything from them. We see them examine the wallet and see nothing of value in it before discarding it. So Bob had to witness an innocent person who he could have helped get beaten up for ultimately nothing, meaning the robber was probably going to just attack someone else instead too.
I thought the Mugger took the valuable stuff out of the wallet, and then got rid of it once it was empty?
@@IMightBeError They might have off screen but the most we see is them pickup the wallet and check it before throwing it away a second later. We never actually see them take anything out of it.
I never noticed they were the same people.
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My favorite quote is during the mugging scene.
Bob: “hey, there’s a guy out there getting mugged!”
Huph: *”Well in that case let’s hope we don’t cover him!!”*
Like OK. WOW.
In Russian, they said:
Боб: Но его грабят !/He's getting robbed.
Хаф: Надеюсь, что он застрахован этот иуда./I hope he is well ensured, then.
@@therussianwanderer4851 you forgot the Judas in the translation
The real villain; the American healthcare system
Someone much bigger than that, bc as long as the mastermind is still around, this world will never know peace.
Luigi sacrificed himself for the sins of the insurance
Not just one company or policy, it's the sin of human nature. The greed, the pride, the lust, the sloth all of 7 which degrades human nature, inflicting society or person or person on power.
I’m pretty sure that “InsuraCare” wasn’t a medical insurance company, but rather a general insurance company.
Inconceivable!
No way.
And then the most dastardly line related to todays standards...
"We're supposed to help the people!"
"We're supposed to help OUR PEOPLE, Bob! Starting with our stockholders! Who's helping them huh?"
That's shows who he is going to side with at the end of the day!
Thank you, American economic standards.
@lordfelidae4505 Sadly, that is true
The corpos don't represent America. Just one of its big problems.
this aged like fine wine in regards to all the enshittification going on rn
Conformity is the main antagonistic force of The Incredibles: "when everyone's super, no one will be"
"Everyone's special, dash" "that's just another way of saying no one is"
And what does Mr. Huph do? He enacts conformity every step of the way; his fingernails are perfectly trimmed, the five pencils on his desk perfectly in line and perfectly sharpened all the exact same amount, even the memo on his desk threatening insuricare employees not to take office supplies is perfectly aligned. He proceeds to rant at Bob about fitting into a perfect, clock-like system of a company, all while Bob's moral impetus to stick out, to NOT conform but go above and beyond, crime that goes unpunished, is taunted in front of Bob's eyes, and he knows he COULD stop it, he SHOULD stop it, but to do so would not conform, and so even though he could, even though it eats away at him, conformity wins, and the robber gets away. When Huph, a manifestation of evil thriving in conformity antagonizes him a little further, Bob snaps, and throws him through walls. A person so exceptional forced into such conformity just CANNOT succeed.
@purple781 eh, potato tomato.
@purple781 "There are FOUR lights"
Two things I noticed as well was the four clocks on the wall, and chart.
The chart no doubt is related to profits or the company, but it shows a nearly flat, horizontal line.
It's like the company it's self is not allowed to be special or terrible, just a bland existence of doing enough to not fail.
@purple781 I can't believe I have to use the term "media literacy" unironically but it seems I do, and that is something you need to learn. They were trying to get across as much info as possible about Insuricare, and what Bob has to deal with nearly every day. Not just a boring office job, but an *unethical* boring office job.
So true
Luigi thinks this aged extremely well.
I like to imagine that he was rewatching the film to forget his health problems for a while. Then watching that scene tipped him over the edge "thats it ill do it myself"
@@travian821 he didn't have the super strength to throw him through several walls of an office building though so he used an equalizer
Here after the insurance guy got killed and United Healthcare shortened their coverage for anesthesia.
Actually it was Anthem Blue Shield, and they walked it back hours later after realizing "Wait maybe this is a _very_ bad idea"
@@kikiretzorg1467It’s still fucked up anyways
They didn’t shorten their coverage, they adjusted it to be what the current government provided plans do
@@mainhalo117 they "adjusted it" to be shorter
@@concept8192 yeah they made their coverage do exactly what the government provided coverage currently does.
Mr. Huph is so scary, he was hired to voice dinosaur toys.
XD
And the Grand Nagis.
Inconcieveable!
I can’t believe I never made the connection until this comment.
Bro.... I realised he voices Rex! Now whenever i see this scene i cant unimagine Rex firing Bob
Can we talk about the bit where Hugh grabs Bob by the jaw? The little bastard has such a _need_ to exert his own power and authority over other people that he doesn't hesitate to literally manhandle someone three or four times his size, just to make them pay attention to his monologue.
Soooo does bobs retaliation count as self defense?
@@Malevolence460 I don't know if it would because the retaliation happened a little bit afterwards after Huph had let go, also the courts would probably see throwing someone through a wall almost killing them as being unproportionable to the chin grab.
@@sarjurastormblade953 _Four_ walls, but still a valid point.
@@danielbilodeau9045 Yep, I think the only reason Huph didn't die was because the walls were drywall instead of brick or concrete.
@@danielbilodeau9045Bob managed to break 4 walls without breaking the 4th one.
He’s not really a villain. He’s the banality of evil.
He’s a person who had all the care kicked out of him before it could root in solidly.
He's also the kind of evil we're more likely to encounter ourselves. While most villains aspire to be as evil as our greatest, very few people are actually Hitler.
@@tminusboom2140I mean yeah, but he's not really a villain- he's just a prick
@@tminusboom2140, who do you think financed Hitler's rise to dominance and, consequently, his rampage against Poland, the jews, soviets and basically the entirety of Europe, right?
Like Scrooge from Christmas Carol?
@@Lolxlol21_ no, Scrooge was more proactive in his evil.
It wasn’t that he was villainous, something just happened in between his happy youth, and his angry old age that made him only care about money.
If I were to hazard to guess, it was likely hearing those sob stories of destitute people, and being determined that it would never happen to him slowly morphing into lust for money.
Bob Marley probably wasn’t a good influence either
interesting that typing incredibles in the UA-cam search brings up insurance scene as the top suggestion, im sure that's a coincidence
I THINK NOT 😂
This and the SpongeBob Scene where the hospital keeps kicking Mr Krabs out because of his lack of insurance.
Funny how all the Incredible and SpongeBob scenes vids that used to allow comments, have recently been labeled to YT Kids lol
Sadly they muted most comment section knowing what's coming
@@chakraborty1989 Orrr, they were already muted because youtube’s been doing this for clips from anything categorized as “for kids” for years now, as dumb as it is.
Algorithm working as intended.
I also love the contrast between him and Syndrome (and the other villains in general). Not every evil guy can be defeated by punching him.
An evil mime with bombs? A geek with killer robots? Yeah just fight them.
Your boss? That’s a different story. Bob gives him exactly what he deserves. But in doing so, gets in a ton of trouble.
It shows the contrast that you can’t beat all evil by just punching them
Quite the opposite. His mistake was not just outright offing him imo. If you are going to lash out, make sure they never live to tell the tale or are able to harm someone ever again.
@@ethanduncan1646 Killing him wouldn't have been easy to hide though, plus it wouldn't fit Mr. Incredible's character to intentionally execute him for that alone. It makes more sense that he gave him the whooping of a lifetime but almost went overboard and killed him in the heat of the moment.
@@Chicky_Lumps additionally, it would not have stopped the next Boss who would rise to run the coporation.
Insura-care is designed to be exploitative, meaning that many of the upper ranks of the company share that mindset, especially with how upfront Mr. Hugh was with "The law requires that I answer no."
So, let's say Bob killed Mr. Hugh, then Mr. Hugh's next in line moves up, takes over the company, and the pain continues.
It would require a mass lawsuit to cripple the company. IE: Not Mr. Incredible. It would take a guy in a grey suit and a briefcase to take down Insura-care.
@@Chicky_Lumps Its not about hiding it. If you are already going on for assault against some asshole who deserves it and will always be morally bankrupt no matter what might as well follow through. You are already going to prison might as well do some good while you are at it.
@@ethanduncan1646 the government would be willing to cover injury caused by his powers, not outright murder.
"Sorry, your insurance doesn't cover a full-body cast. We're going to have to put you out on the streets in new york."
-Ball Par
I just realized that Huph is gonna have to be forced to go through the same twisted system that Bob helped others through. But this time, there will be no Bob Parr to guide Huph through every loophole & obstacle
@@venomfan2020 As a boss in an insurance company he is probably more than rich enough to not need it.
With his sallery he probably has a different company with a better premium and policy that only takes candidates via private referrals. It's remarkable how much better a service gets when it's an exclusive club you need to be an upstanding member of.
@@venomfan2020 that would have been poetic justice
@@venomfan2020 Aah, sweet justice. Maybe that'll teach the little shithole a lesson.
Being a kid is thinking Mr. Huph deserved to be hurt because he was mean.
Growing up is realizing this man deserved FAR worse.
In my opinion, one of the most vexing things about Mr. Huph's narrative is that Bob, despite all his best efforts and intentions, is not able to put an end to Huph's exploitation of his clients and / or employees - without losing his job, that is. Any actions that Bob could take to undermine Mr. Huph would simply put his own family in financial trouble. Huph basically uses Bob's family as a hostage against him, and he doesn't even have to violate the law like a common criminal.
It all goes back to, "If you are punished for doing good things you are run by evil people."
Which is why people eventually need to rebel against the system but I digress.
That's why being a villain in the vein of a pirate is so desirable. One can be kind to the working class, and absolutely ruthless toward the elites.
One detail I notice with that scene is the fact that Bob literally could not have helped the mugging victim either way. He doesn't have super speed; even if he went at a full sprint out of the office and ran down the stairs, by the time he got out of the office, the mugger would have been long gone. It emphasizes even further how frustrated he is that he would lose his temper and lose his job over not being allowed to help someone who he literally could not have helped anyway.
He probably could have made it there… but… he would have to break the window. Something that he would not be allowed to do.
@@Motleydoll123 Or they could call the police.
@@spongeintheshoethey wouldn't arrive in time, the police can't teleport lol
@@spongeintheshoe indeed. but he was not allowed to do either... he was forced to stay in that office and take the talking to from that little tool (who seemed to enjoy how much power he has over someone like Bob) and so the mugger got away without any interferance any number of things could have been done to stop what happened... but bob was left helpless to help a man he could help. he could have done something... but his boss won't let him. So you can understand very much why bob at the end of his tether finally just snaps and throws his boss through several walls.
Tbh he could have made it. After all, he does have super strength...
He probably could have left the office, found a quiet part of the floor and hopped out the window and land in the ally.
But yeah sucks since that didn’t happen...
Even if his situation was depressing, it was still nice to see Mr Incredible/Bob was still fighting for the common man. Be either beating super villains or helping his clients navigating through the traps of a crooked insurance company.
I knew the insurance scene from Incredibles would start popping off in the algorithm
Part of it I think is with the themes of trying to rise above mediocrity if you will. You see, Bob is actually doing his job well, and is once again finding himself being punished for not being mediocre.
I’m not sure if it’s about being mediocre but more like Bob is being heavily “encouraged” to screw his clients out of as much money as possible which goes against his very being as a superhero.
@@jeffythesomething8772 It literally goes against the point of an insurance company. Sure there's a lot of legal bullshit, but at it's most basic concept an insurance company is something you pay a recurring fee to with the expectation that if you do end up in a tough financial spot such as what the specific insurance is for such as car, home, or life, they pay you a certain amount to help you quickly deal with the sudden financial need brought on by the costly incident. Mr Huph is illegally going against this, using a bunch of legal bullshit to keep people liek the old lady giving Insuracare money but not having to dish out as much as they'd actually need to. I'd cut ties to that company if I was a customer and if I worked there I'd quite. I'm surprised they're still afloat with how shitty they are. Must have really good PR backing them to keep negativity at bay.
@@jeffythesomething8772 Not just as a hero, as a person. He wants to help people, and he's forced to not do that.
Not exactly. The point of mr Huph corporate ideology is to make the deals of his company as favorable for them as possible at the expense of the clients. Bob, however, is having none of that. Plus, Huph is clearly one of those guys who gets pleasure of having control and throwing his weight around.
Of course a boss like that is gonna hate someone like mr Incredible.
@@user-unos111 With Bob, his job *in theory* is to help people. However, he's being punished for doing "his job" too well, if you will.
In fairness there's definitely more to it than that, but it's an element of it.
As of today the 'insurance scene' is the first thing that pops up if I search The Incredibles. Hmmmm I wonder why-
In the film commentary, Brad Bird mentions that one animator REALLY wanted to animate the scene where Bob finally snaps and grabs Mr Huph by the neck. He suspected that said animator had issues with a previous boss that they were channeling into their work.
in that case, they REALLY nailed the fury put into it
Hope that animator got some catharsis out of it. Too bad he/she couldn't do that to their shitbag previous boss in real life.
Catharsis is a beautiful thing
I used to feel bad for him getting thrown through so many walls and ending up hospitalized. I mean yeah for that I feel bad for him, but I never realized just how bad of a guy he actually was.
I didn't feel sorry for Mr. Huff at all. He's kind of like the pointy haired boss from Dilbert, only much, much worse.
I think once you or your family and friends start struggling with potentially losing insurance, then you wish to be the one that threw him.
As a kid I saw him as a mean boss who wouldn’t even call the cops for a mugging happening in front of him.
As an adult I saw his actual business model and realized this guy is worse than I realized
I knew something was wrong with him when he didn't care that a person was getting assaulted and mugged outside his office, and stopped bob from trying to help
Same, but I was a kid back then. DIdn't really understand the hardships of being an adult. Even grade 10-12, I had a number 1 best friend explain how bad the world is, I still didn't get it, which is pathetic, but when I entered college. I started to go like wait a minute, my number 1 best friend was spitting out sense here. And I have been apologetic since college and onwards towards him. Kind of seeing how I was being an ass to someone that was just getting me down to Earth about the real world.
I like the implication that Bob and that old lady were in that office for 15+ years
Still several magnitudes quicker than the DMV.
@BababooeyGooey Least UNECESARRY
If you think he's bad in the movie...
*_HE'S WORSE IN THE ORIGINAL SCRIPT_*
I will quote an exerp from Brad Bird's original screenplay, page 37 :
《 Huph follows Bob's gaze to the window. On the street, the larger man clubs the smaller man with a mace. He crumples to the sidewalk. Huph jerks Bob's face back towards his-- 》
He was not only _concious_ of the mugging, witnessed it himself, and _willingly chose to ignore it,_ but the mugging was *_FAR MORE BRUTAL_* than the few melodramatic punches we saw in the movie. Huph saw a hepless man being beaten half to death and chose to _look past it_ to get back to scolding his employee for helping those in need like the victim on the other side of the glass.
Its probably because I had an unnecessarily dark imagination as a kid. But I always thought the guy died. So the scene upset me probably as much as bob himself.
@@revolvingworld2676
With how the scene framed it, I honestly always thought he died as well.
Either way, Bob’s fury was understandable.
Unless the mugger was a super villain the mace would seem a little weird for him to be carrying
@@roberthosford1658 Mace was likely a stand in for club or something similar
@@patchmoulton5438 why write mace if you don't mean it? I guess it doesn't matter since it's not a mace in the actual movie
the bloody timing of the recommendation lmao
My lawyer advised me not to comment my personal opinions on real life matters but… this is a great video demonstrating antagonism that isn’t often or even relevant to most media
4:35 Did anyone ever noticed that Bob is literally in a tight space just by observing his cubicle compared to others? Doesn't it also make sense as a key symbolism of all the pressure and challenges he faced everyday of his life since when he resigned being a superhero for 15years?
In short: he's being forced to fit into a role that doesn't suit him.
@@byronsmothers8064 Now that's another key symbolic feature. It seems the makers really sat down and thought this through. No wonder the movie was really a huge hit in the cinema.
That also makes me wonder if the company also has other things that discriminate against differently abled people
Mr Gilbert Huph is the most realistic villain in The Incredibles series . He is more realistic than Syndrome , Bomb Voyage, Screenslaver or the Underminer. His power is manipulation, bribery and dishonesty rather than a super power like strength or speed. People will more likely encounter a corrupt boss than fighting a criminal.
You say that like a corrupt boss isn't also an example of a criminal
Street criminal
Glad to see so many of us coming back here
Its the algorithm
@ nah i searched it up
Aged like fine wine.
My family was denied money *three times* by their insurance companies, one for a serious medical emergency and two for natural catastrophes that damaged their hotel business. They always required paper after paper, certificate after certificate and dragged the whole process before giving some bullshit excuse and denying us the money.
Sue them you say? The case would drag on for years and it would cost more money than you actually lost. Even if you won, it would not be worth it.
Mr Huph was probably not the CEO of those companies, but he definitely trained their managers.
Instead of having insurance just have an emergency fund or something, all insurance is scam lmao.
@@Fernybun Great plan, except the IRS takes them in this case.
was it UnitedHealthcare?
this aged like fineeeee wine.
hi
It's not often that I am able to make the most out of a single set of scenes and elaborate on their details, let alone in a movie like this. Massive respect.
All I typed in the search bar was "inc" before it auto-completed to "Incredibles insurance scene." 😆
same, weird that's happening for no apparent reason
@@Feascoyup, no reason at all
Two days later, same
SAME
In my case, the incredibles is a popular and iconic movie, this was also one of the first scenes of the movie. I thought about the scene and looked it up and it’s being searched a lot
I think the worst part is how realistic of a character Gilbert Huph is. There are so many bosses, managers, and corporate executives in real life that are just like Mr. Huph and get away with it.
This has only gotten more relevant with time, and in the last month it's become EXTREMELY relevant. Also... "Your life is in our hands" is absolutely a slogan an insurance company would brand themselves with and it's so, goddamn, dystopian, AGHHH, Disney will never let this kind of quality fly anymore
It's not just a slogan an insurance company would use, it IS a slogan an insurance company _already_ uses: "You're in good hands with All-State."
this feels like a channel that should be semi-famous with like 50k-200k subs, but i was unpleasantly surprised when i saw how unsung your channel is. im super sure you're going to blow up very soon. good luck
Thanks. I've actually had a couple of videos that have done reasonably well, I just can't seem to get those kind of results consistently. The algorithm giveth and the algorithm taketh away, I suppose.
When Bob throws Mr. Huph, he actually breaks the fourth wall. Literally.
Good catch. I never counted the walls before.
When Mr. Huph was lecturing Bob on how a company is like a clock that only works when properly maintained and when all the components fit together, he wasn't simply spouting corporate rhetoric; he was outright being a hypocrite. Bob was stealthily guiding the clients through a broken, bureaucratic system that was built to frustrate them into submission, thus helping to fix the system and getting it to run like a well-oiled machine, enabling the clients to get what they're owed. But because that meant less profits for Insuracare and its shareholders, Mr. Huph was absolutely seething over the fact.
I may be stretching it but I like how there seems to be a slight mirrored duality between Mr Hoff/Insuricare and Syndrome. Both claim to help people, with the former providing insurance and the latter being a hero, but they both have terrible motivations, with the former only interested in money and the later with the glory and usurping his idol, both instead of actually caring for the people.
In the world of The Incredibles, superhumans using their incredible gifts to help people when no one else can is forbidden but parasites like Mr. Huph and his insurance company exploiting customers for money is perfectly fine.
Sadly, that's happening to our world.
have you heard of Amazon and how their fulfillment centers treat their employees?
Well it shows the real world pretty fine.
People helping people and being good is a fairy tail. Humans exploiting other sadly the reality norm.
@@ThiccTropius how do they treat their employees? I work at Amazon - 3 years at a fulfillment center, and 1 at a delivery station.
@@hebercluff1665 no bathroom breaks while on shift, working unrealistic speeds, meeting impossible quotas, worked sortation and had a hard time keeping up despite going real fast
4:15 *WAIT* I never noticed the pillar!
Me neither, omg
Me neither.
I remember reading this writing prompt answer-about a super hero who, rather than directly participating in typical hero work, instead uses his powers of matter manipulation to repair damages after your typical super powered brawl. It starts off hopeful, with him utilizing his powers to restore livelihoods that'd usually be lost as he repairs the homes of those caught in the crossfire of those caught between villain hero showdowns, but as it progresses, it becomes steadily clear just how much the system itself is failing, pushing back at his attempts to fix homelessness. Finally, he snaps, beginning to destroy stadiums built over people's homes, rejecting a stark esqu hero request to build a base from which he could build a surveillance system, and otherwise demolishing suites and other luxurious housings to create housing for the people that need it. Eventually the 'heroes' are sent to stop him. He loses, because he simply never used his powers for actual combat.
As he sits in his cell, he wonders if all the villains he's next to were exactly like him. With that thought, he rises up, breaks his cell with his powers, and quickly leads a revolt.
serious this deserve to be some good novel.
Cringe
Thats sounds an awful lot like what happens in Invincible
I'm not a huge fan of most rich people, but this prompt started off sounding interesting then just devolved into French Revolution political daydreaming.
It'd be easy to write something like that in support of socialism and/or communism.
"Contrary to popular wisdom, its actually the weak who bully the strong."
I forget who said that and when, but it's a quote that sticks to me.
That sounds an awful lot like something a social Darwinist would say, so I’m not sure about that one.
@@lordfelidae4505 I think the implication of the line is that it's not the physical strength or amount of power of the bully that makes them a bully, it's that they lack the moral strength to not be a bully.
But it's such a short and vague line that it's easy to read some worrying stuff into it. Plus, it lacks nuance (something that's true for most aphorisms)
That reminds me of a Jordan Peterson quote: "If you think strong men are capable of terrible acts, just imagine what weak men can do."
@@lordfelidae4505 A statement can be true even when said by someone who uses it as part of a messed-up ideology, what makes the ideology messed-up is the parts that are not true and the fallacious logic that constitutes the rest of it. You can disagree with a statement, but I encourage you to develop why, instead of limiting yourself to "a bad guy said it". Otherwise you risk falling into other kinds of messed-up ideologies.
It's obvious what the quote means. Get over yourself.
Who heres after... you know
I watched it only a month ago, but came back after the recent events. Aged very well.
@@capncake8837 WHat?
Elon?
I guess I am, but no clue what you're referring to
@@brreakfastYTumm this is a head honcho of an insurance company. A pretty horrible insurance company. Does that strike any bells concerning recent events?
@@Lemonidas_of_Sourta Ohhhhh, right right
If this movie were made today, they'd make this guy the main villain.
Hell, they practically do in the sequel.
Well, not exactly. He works perfectly in his role as someone who enforces the mundane. Screensaver was someone who wanted everybody to forge their own paths and not need dependence. I know the sequel gets a lot of flack, and the criticisms on how the B plot was a bit too big as well as screenslaver's execution do hold up. However, that villain WORKED. Mr. Huph is the exact opposite of Screenslaver. He doesn't need exceptions in his company. He needs a well-oiled machine, one that functions only because no piece is able to tell the time of his giant clock by themselves.
Just like Japanese society.@@plaidhatter1674
I still think Incredibles 2 is pretty much as great as the original. It isn’t quite as deeply thematic, but it still has the same atmosphere. Screenslaver is a cool villain, but the competition is Syndrome so naturally Evelyn isn’t going to be as good.
WEEEEEEEEELL 😅
This aged like fine wine unfortunately
Was about to say... 😂
4:56 I love hearing him SCREAMING in the background of the secretary call. It adds so much character.
The Incredibles is one of those movies I can watch several times over and still pick up on new details over 20 years later. I'm always happy to see people still talking about the movie.
"An insurance company is supposed to help those in need"
Actually, an insurance company is supposed to make money. That's it. That's the purpose of any company under the system we live in. It just so happens that insurance companies make more money when they deny healthcare.
damn... who couldve guessed mr incredible worked for EA
Bob parr predicted United Healthcare incident by getting fired for beating Mr Huph who is unhappy about helping old person.
Who here after certain recent events in NYC, Dec 2024
I wonder who else got this pop up in their recommended recently for no reason at all 🤔
I searched for it omg
You forgot that he dropped the absolute coldest line when the guy was getting mugged "well lets hope we dont cover him" 🥶🥶
These scenes at the insurance company makes way too much sense as you get older and realize just how corrupt it all is.
After you read what that paper said on the desk, I started to think to myself, he really is a villain. Maybe a "small one", but a villain nonetheless.
He's no more a villain that your typical company executive...oh wait.
@@DracoMagnius 🤣😂You're not wrong there. Most company executives now-a-days are probably much like him. They probably wouldn't care if there was a murder in progess right outside their window.
this is so more relevant now
Remember - the only way insurance companies make a profit is by denying claims. The idea of health insurance is ludicrous, as you will NEED to claim it. Insurance is only useful as is when there is a CHANCE you will need it.
The more I think of it, spending money on something you can claim to have, but never use how you want, insurance begins to sound an awful lot like NFTs...
This is not correct. Insurance companies generally make a profit by charging the average policy holder more than the average policy holder will use per time period. Denying claims is one way to reduce the "average policy holder usage" part, but it is by no means necessary. Insurance companies are entirely capable of operating purely like a giant emergency savings account for large numbers of people, letting policy holders who don't use it much subsidize those that suddenly encountered giant healthcare costs, and skimming a bit off the top - it just makes competitive rates harder to achieve.
@BababooeyGooey They were more or less explaining why Mr. Huph was insurance-ing wrong.
@@byronsmothers8064sounds like taxes and public services TBH
He is secretly the angry South Pole elf from the movie, well, Elf.
They don't want us to know the truth😂
FBI OPEN UP!!
I feel like one of the reason's that superhero's were banned was so they could never learn that there are even worse villains on the other side of the Law and do something about it.
I mean the movie was pretty explicit that it was cheaper for insurance to pay out to the victims of supervillains than it was for the government to pay for the damages to infrastructure caused by so called heros. I feel like there's a bit of subtle commentary there.
To be fair, Brian Thompson did not deserve to be shot. I’d imply a different and more deserving demise, but that would be “breaking the 4th wall,” much like Mr. Huph’s body.
I mean, he did break the 4th wall. And the third and second and first...
@ “yes… precisely”
In a world of superheroes, there are supervillains and everyday villains. That's what I like in any superhero project; it shows that each different villain requires a different approach from the hero.
Fighting a supervillain works, but fighting your antagonistic boss... Not so much
Mr. Incredible used to help people; he used to help them out with major or mundane things (such as the scene where he gets the old lady’s kitten from a tree and stops a robbery).
But now he’s not allowed to be a superhero, so he still tries to help people with more mundane problems, but his job actively encourages him to screw over clients instead of helping them. He used to help people with their problems, now he’s heavily encouraged to BE a problem for people. His frustration is extremely understandable.
jesus christ that paper on the table is diabolical. that's evil and that's literally something Mister Krabs would do and has.
THIS aged very well.
This aged beautifully
Incredibles 1 had genuinely good villains, even as a Kid I knew something was wrong with Mr. Huph when he didn't care that a man was getting mugged.
Quite the interesting time for UA-cam to recommend me this video
This is simply my take on this, but the paper on the desk while Mr. Huph is lecturing Bob isn't shown so that the audience can read it and see how evil the company is, but rather the focus is on Mr. Huph's body language in that moment. Just like the pencils, the man is so orderly that he has become predictable. The adjustment of the paper is a visual signal for Bob that a line he's heard before, enough times where he's memorized the exact movement of the paper that precedes it, is on its way. Hence, he predicts Mr. Huph's words and parrots them alongside him, much to Mr. Huph's pleasure. The shot's composition (from Bob's POV) is as it is in order to convey to the audience that this is a detail Bob is noticing and reacting to.
Admittedly, it's rather amazing that Pixar took the time to write out the entire memo despite its primary purpose likely being that of a visual signal to the audience that Mr. Huph's personality is predictable and life-draining.
So, uh, who else is watching this after, uh "Mario's brother" made the news?
I'm surprised Bob didn't go full villain, ignoring the law and declaring himself an arbiter of justice. Imagine that for a movie, a Hero who went rogue because his desire to save the innocent outweighed the law.
That should have been the incredibles 2 plot!
@@racionador Nah.
Anti heroes are overdone.
@racionador Nah we already have that, it's called Rise of the Underminer for the PS2.
Also would that be a villain or vigilante?
But isn’t what you described essentially what he did? After the anti-hero law was put in place, he was sneaking around looking for trouble under the cover of darkness with Frozone, going as far as to use their powers against law enforcement, then Bob got himself caught up in Syndrome’s hero-snuffing schemes under the pretence of being a professional undercover vigilante. He WAS going rogue, but had the incentive to do it secretively for the sake of his family and not blowing their cover.
The only way Bob would end up “full villain” would be if he were to completely disregard his family for his own gain, and that isn’t in Bob’s nature at all. Maybe you could play with the idea of him being driven clinically insane, but I don’t see that happening when he has such a loving family to fall back on.
This video aged well
December 4, 2024. This suddenly became relevant.
"uh oh"
-Luigi probably
Between energy crisis stuff in Monsters Inc., existentialism in Toy Story, environmentalism in Wall-E, and insurance bullshit in The Incredibles, early-Pixar has been absurdly ahead of the curve for the kids' understanding.
The scene with the paper does have one particular purpose. It pairs with things such as him straightening the pencils. The specific action he's taking with the paper is to straighten it out on the desk. This gives us some insight as to his personality. We know through his words and facial expressions that he's a greedy narcissist and sadistic control freak, but through the little gestures such as with the pencils and paper we can also tell he's something of an obsessive perfectionist who desires all within his control to be in perfect order. Everything in its place exactly down even to the precise orientation. This pairs nicely with what he's reprimanding Bob for. Bob correctly states that he's been a model employee who has fulfilled his legal obligations down to the letter, but this isn't how his boss views his role. His goal is to make money at any cost and never spend it, going so far as to design his business model around it being as close to impossible for customers to get any payout they deserve as possible. Bob providing a means for customers to actually get what they are owed puts him "out of line" in the eyes of his boss like a tilted pencil, and the reprimanding is meant to adjust his behavior to get him "straightened out" in line with his boss's ambitions.
I'd also look at the old lady's paperwork - it lists her as a Profit Risk, and specifically mentions that she may "use" her age "against" Insuracare.
I absolutely love the office note for two reasons:
1) The implication of the letter is that Mr. Huph is more concerned with having the company pay for his parking and office supplies then the wellfare of his fellow man.
2) The fact that you would never know this unless you paused the film and read it.
Interesting that this gets recommended to me given recent events.
A WILD time for this to pop up on recommend
I wish the person I was on the phone with today could’ve helped me like how Bob helped that old woman. She sounded so sorry for me when I asked if there was anything I could do, crying, and there was this beat of silence where I could feel the weight she must feel, since I’m sure I’m not the only one to call in tears.
Later, he was killed by Luigi Mangione.
I never caught the PA system saying "Morning break is over" or that it was implying he was working during his break.
Damn.
"give me 500 dollars and i'll give you nothing" - every insurance company
Who else is here after UHC CEO death?
Having this video recommended during the recent happenings couldn't be more ironic lmaoo
Would love to see the spike in views on videos like this one after the unitedhealth ceo news
Welcome back everyone
The fact that this popped up now is hilarious 🤣
9:10 - 10:15
Some dreamworks animator/graphic designer is crying tears of joy as you read and appreciate this long-lost cutting room floor tragedy.
As small a detail as this is, thank you for bringing this to my attention.
i dont think bob is bored when talking to the old lady. he just knows he isn't supposed to help her and he's trying to overcome his empathy towards her. you can even see the moment he breaks on his face.
Insurance is the legalized version of the protection racket