I had used the f21 pro with 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage in Germany. great device. Worked wonderfully. Then resold it. I've already regretted it because I'm constantly on social media with my galaxy s23. I ordered the 64 GB variant. Can really recommend it! The f22 is too big for me personally. Warm greetings from Germany.
Hello all, I got the internationall version of the F21 Pro, very happy with it. Here in France works just fine and I even have better recption that with my previous phone (Xperia E5 from 2016). Whith my unit once I powered it up the google Play store was crashing every time I interected with it (it did start up bat then crash if I attempted to do anything with it). I did a factory reset and it started to work fine. The whatsapp that comes preinstalled is a old version that needs to be updated, when starting the app it does attept to download and updat but failed every single time. What worked was to update it using google play as it was working properly. all apps that I have tried work just fine as they would in any other device. The TT9 keyboard works just fine and supports various languages at the sale time (Spanish and French in my case) that can be swapped with a long press of the * button (short press changes input mode from ABC to 123 to predictive). For the volume up&down issue, true there is no dedicated button on the side but the 0 and 8 do the same function with a long press 0 for less volume 8 for higher volume. A,nother nice thing is that you can programe a quick access on the other numbered keys wicj makes easy access to the most used apps without the need to navigate to the app icon, pretty neat. Overall very happy with it It has been just a week with it but for now at least I'm pretty happy.
Hi, I live in Canada Quebec and I bought the F21 global version. I love this phone , it works perfectly on the Telus network. The only thing that I had to do was use the 3G network, otherwise internet (Data)didn't work .
3:50 Whenever I open a message, the on-screen keyboard instantly pops up, blocking the entire conversation. I've always preferred for the keyboard to appear only when I tap the reply field. Despite the F22's larger screen, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference. Anyone else experience this? If anyone has a fix to prevent the keyboard from showing up immediately, I'd love to hear it!
I don't like the T9 keyboard, I want to stick to on screen but can't understand the logic of having the keyboard pop up, before I have chance to read the message.
I thought the same but I’ve check the phone and there’s nothing strange about it in terms of software…but lets keep in mind. It’s an android and there’s Google on it. It’s as private as any other device….if you know what i mean.
what i noticed is that the moment i started watching anything related to this phone i started getting disgusting adds 🤢. and after reporting they did give me the location of China i gave up on buying it for that reason already
Thanks for all the links! Really wish I looked into the band situation beforehand. But we'll see how it fairs in my daily locations. If it doesn't end up working too well. It looks like the f30 looks will be the one to go to.
@@JoseBrioneswhat’s the battery life like for f21 pro vs f22 pro if you were doing 1 hour or calls and 30 mins text messages per day. Also is the f22 keyboard much better for txt messaging than the f21?
Hello ! Thank you for making such informative videos. If you have the time to reply, where do you suggest buying the Cat S22 ? T Mobile seems to not carry it anymore. Amazon seems inconsistent as well as ebay. Please help !
So in general has the F21 been working alright for you despite the bare-minimum T-Mobile coverage? Looks like my neighborhood has a bit of band 41 coverage...
Hi Jose I want to know how can I get a f30 that’s not fully kosher like I want more apps on it and I’ll remove the ones I don’t want?? Any suggestions?? Pls very desperate 😂
@@JoseBriones that's really good to know! these days in the UK, we need to verify purchases on card sometimes on the app while your at the checkout, so it's pretty key to have access to the banking apps. may give the f21 a go! kind of got over the fact there may be no nfc.
@@JoseBriones also - so since the f22 came out, they have started selling official google versions of the f21 pro ? i don't remember these being for sale in the past, was a diy job, and hence would fail the security thing for banking apps,
I noticed you have installed Magisk on the F22. Was wondering why? Also apart from the usability of the tiny on screen keyboard, how does the typing experience on the T9/keypad compare? Is the autocomplete as good as SwiftKey? Crappy texting experience is a big drawback for me, among other things
I've been looking for the f21 pro quite long way. But I couldn't find anyone to tell me if it works with bank apps. Like they require fingerprint or so to access. Bizum and other things work? Just to know which limitations they have compared to other smartphones.
Thank you. I saw on aliexpress qin f21 pro from google play. But it was not clear to me whether he already has the google play store and google services or they need to be installed. So you think they already have it? And is there a qin f22?
Hi @JoseBriones , Late to the game here but does the F30 (or any of these other ones) run on an AOSP rather than full Google android? Always a concern. Thanks!
Hey 👋🏼 im very grateful for you video because i bought a f22pro and i was struggling with the keyboard. I don’t understand the point in having one if i can’t use it. Quick question tho! I’ve installed the tt9 app but is there any app that i can actually type without this “predictive” method? It’s quite confusing for me as i would prefer press it whatever number of times i need for the character. If you understand what i mean! Edit: Nevermind!!! Found the solution 😊thank you so much! Pls continue with your awesome videos! ______ Just keep pressing # and you can change the typing method and numbers and capital letters. Nice!!!
@@JoseBrionesi will also have a look at those. I’m super grateful for finding ur videos because i was struggling to buy a much less addictive phone that would still give me the ability to use it daily. Im super happy with my choice and you definitely helped with it. The phone is so lightweight and it’s just enough to use whenever i need but also screen so small enough to get easily bored 😂 hopefully they will make one soon like old blackberry’s with a nicer keyboard. Or a smaller one but with camera for non American 😜 but great suggestions overall!!! Thanks and have a nice season of holiday and a nice 2024 👍🏼
@@JoseBriones hi 👋🏼 again! So apparently the kika keyboard it comes up on the playstore that the app won’t work for this device…unfortunately…. Than the k12 I can’t seem to find the app. On the google search it appears only physical mechanical keyboard… I don’t mind this T9 app but I’m struggling to find the @ or any emoji?!? So anytime i type an email i need to change the keyboard to another digital one i have….
Can you do a video on installing apps and virtual mouse for the TCL Flip 2? It will be beneficial for lots of people, especially those that want specific apps on their phone.
I have a f21 pro google version, for a reason I had to factory reset my phone. After resetting google play store is not working and I’m getting a message this device is not google certified 😢 what am I supposed to do? And thank you very much for the link tt9 keypad. Bcuz I have f22pro as well. I was looking for that keypad every where. ❤
@@JoseBriones do you know if future android versions will be released as updates available to download and install for f21 and f22 versions? Or will you just be stuck with whatever it ships with?
Ive been using a Nokia dumb phone for ever. I was born in 1968 i remember life without phones, internet etc. I never really got involved. I use my phone to make calls. I use my laptop for internet access. My reality is, i don't need to be contactable 24/7 and i don't need constant digital stimulation.
Why would say your birth year, Ya I was born in 1969, ya I remember those day, with no internet, no smart phones.I had those huge honking brick phone, with a huge antenna, you couldn't fit it anywhere was, too big, had to carry it around. We're the same generation, only thing is you're a year older.
I want to buy the F30, but my problem is that I do not know if I can at least install WhatsApp or Viber and make a video call. Please tell me if it is possible to do that, and if yes, then in what version?
Thinking of switching to one of these sure its got less specs than my current phone but I barely use it as is I just need some quality of life apps such as banking, whatsapp etc and listening to music
Hi Jose, I bought an F22 thanks to your really informative videos. I really like the device and I have now ordered an F21 Pro and F22 Pro. Thank you for all the detailed and valuable information. I do have a question I hope you cn answer for me... I am looking to use the physical keyboard for messages without T9. How do I get the keyboard to work as a regular ABC 123 keyboard. Again, Thanks for your great review videos!!
Nowadays.. the only reason people buy dumbphones is to disconnect from everything.. What's the point if you have everything from a 'smartphone' in a 'dumbphone'?
People may want a device that doesn’t encourage the use of social media without totally losing the possibility of having apps like Whatsapp, gmail and google maps
Does anyone owning these have privacy concerns considering they’re a Chinese phone? Is there an alt. to a phone exactly like this that’s not from China? The phone itself is obviously super practical and I’d argue it’s the best dumbphone just wish it wasn’t tied to china. (Not racist, solely privacy concerns)
@@JoseBriones try concentrating less on the unimportant stuff and organizing the videos better. I'm all for smaller channels and you're doing great. Hopefully it improves with time. 👍 good luck
I find the review really useful and it covers all that I was wondering about, I don't really see what you mean, particularly with your very unspecific comment
just starting to dive into the dumbphone space and quitting most social media. your content has been so helpful thanks!
I agree!!
I had used the f21 pro with 3 GB RAM and 32 GB storage in Germany. great device. Worked wonderfully. Then resold it. I've already regretted it because I'm constantly on social media with my galaxy s23. I ordered the 64 GB variant. Can really recommend it! The f22 is too big for me personally. Warm greetings from Germany.
Where did you buy it? The f21?
Ebay
Greetings from Germany as well. How was the coverage with the F21? I’m afraid that with B20 missing, the phone is pretty unusable, isn’t it?
Hallo, funktionieren die deutschen Telefonanbieter auf diesem Handy oder hab ich es falsch verstanden?
@@rudeburger284 soweit ich es verstanden habe, funktionieren die nur im 2G-Netz flächendeckend.
Hello all, I got the internationall version of the F21 Pro, very happy with it. Here in France works just fine and I even have better recption that with my previous phone (Xperia E5 from 2016). Whith my unit once I powered it up the google Play store was crashing every time I interected with it (it did start up bat then crash if I attempted to do anything with it). I did a factory reset and it started to work fine. The whatsapp that comes preinstalled is a old version that needs to be updated, when starting the app it does attept to download and updat but failed every single time. What worked was to update it using google play as it was working properly. all apps that I have tried work just fine as they would in any other device. The TT9 keyboard works just fine and supports various languages at the sale time (Spanish and French in my case) that can be swapped with a long press of the * button (short press changes input mode from ABC to 123 to predictive).
For the volume up&down issue, true there is no dedicated button on the side but the 0 and 8 do the same function with a long press 0 for less volume 8 for higher volume. A,nother nice thing is that you can programe a quick access on the other numbered keys wicj makes easy access to the most used apps without the need to navigate to the app icon, pretty neat.
Overall very happy with it It has been just a week with it but for now at least I'm pretty happy.
any new update? are you still happy with it? also does it heat up?
Hi, I live in Canada Quebec and I bought the F21 global version. I love this phone , it works perfectly on the Telus network. The only thing that I had to do was use the 3G network, otherwise internet (Data)didn't work .
was just about to request this video! thanks!!
Gracias José! Vivo en Chile y no he encontrado información sobre estos dos! Voy a probar con el f21!!!!!
It will be really nice if the f23 will have the qwerty keypad like the traditional blackberry.
Did they confirm that will be a f23? im waiting
Argh, I used the e71/e72 until 2015 or so, when Whatsapp finally stopped working on it. I just loved these phones.
I have no personal experience with them, but there is a brand called Unihertz that has a few phones like that
If the approach is to have a physical keyboard, a qwerty is a much better option, these numeric keypads are terrible, I hated them even back then.
3:50 Whenever I open a message, the on-screen keyboard instantly pops up, blocking the entire conversation. I've always preferred for the keyboard to appear only when I tap the reply field. Despite the F22's larger screen, it doesn't seem to have made a huge difference. Anyone else experience this? If anyone has a fix to prevent the keyboard from showing up immediately, I'd love to hear it!
I don't like the T9 keyboard, I want to stick to on screen but can't understand the logic of having the keyboard pop up, before I have chance to read the message.
Really wanna give that F22 Pro a try but I can't get over the privacy issues. Am I overthinking it?
i think you do brother
which privacy issues?
@@s.y.1412Prolly some resellers flashing "infected roms". Dunno if real but Xiaomi is now clamping on bootloader unlocks with the debut of HyperOS.
I thought the same but I’ve check the phone and there’s nothing strange about it in terms of software…but lets keep in mind. It’s an android and there’s Google on it. It’s as private as any other device….if you know what i mean.
what i noticed is that the moment i started watching anything related to this phone i started getting disgusting adds 🤢. and after reporting they did give me the location of China
i gave up on buying it for that reason already
Thanks for all the links! Really wish I looked into the band situation beforehand. But we'll see how it fairs in my daily locations. If it doesn't end up working too well. It looks like the f30 looks will be the one to go to.
hey any update on how it treated you?
hey jose how do you remove chrome and similar apps from the f22
Thanks for this video! Have we heard anything about the F23 Pro?
Nothing yet. We’ll have to wait and see.
@@JoseBrioneswhat’s the battery life like for f21 pro vs f22 pro if you were doing 1 hour or calls and 30 mins text messages per day. Also is the f22 keyboard much better for txt messaging than the f21?
hey jose how do i get whattsapp on the f30 and how can i remove the browser and similar apps from the f22?
yoo the first minute lol i really wanted to see that video!! thank you for the video i'll watch it for now heheh have a good day my fren^^
Just curious,,, but why would anyone prefer T9 buttons to on screen?
Please advise if call answer on whatsapp is using the physical phone keypad
Yes.
how about google contact syncing?
Hello ! Thank you for making such informative videos. If you have the time to reply, where do you suggest buying the Cat S22 ? T Mobile seems to not carry it anymore. Amazon seems inconsistent as well as ebay. Please help !
I bought mine on eBay. Seemed fine.
So in general has the F21 been working alright for you despite the bare-minimum T-Mobile coverage? Looks like my neighborhood has a bit of band 41 coverage...
Yeah. There are spots where it doesn’t work. But it’s not a major issue.
Just saw Nbc rise of dumbphones. Is that you on the video?
Thx for explaining more about these hybrid phones.
Yes. That is me on the video.
Great video, really informative! Is there a multitap keyboard app for f21 pro?
Hi Jose I want to know how can I get a f30 that’s not fully kosher like I want more apps on it and I’ll remove the ones I don’t want?? Any suggestions?? Pls very desperate 😂
Thank you for this comparison Jose!
Did you get a chance to check your banking apps ? Do they work,?
On the Google version yes. Some banking apps work without the Google version, but the Google one has them all working.
@@JoseBriones that's really good to know! these days in the UK, we need to verify purchases on card sometimes on the app while your at the checkout, so it's pretty key to have access to the banking apps.
may give the f21 a go! kind of got over the fact there may be no nfc.
@@JoseBriones also - so since the f22 came out, they have started selling official google versions of the f21 pro ? i don't remember these being for sale in the past, was a diy job, and hence would fail the security thing for banking apps,
I’m getting this. Hopefully it can improve my life. Great content thanks!
Thanks for the video! Is Canada considered international?
Yes. For the purposes of my review, Canada is considered international
I noticed you have installed Magisk on the F22. Was wondering why? Also apart from the usability of the tiny on screen keyboard, how does the typing experience on the T9/keypad compare? Is the autocomplete as good as SwiftKey? Crappy texting experience is a big drawback for me, among other things
Gud pm about the keypad can be use in texting message instead on the screen...lastly is the text message is conversation...
Dose it have built in call recorder?
if not, witch basic phones have built in phone call recorder?
thanks!
my f22 pro power button dont work the battery went dead and now i cant power it on do you know how to power it on??
I live in NYC and use google fi. Would I be able to use the f21 here? Google say they use multiple networks so it’s a bit confusing
jose the inthemoment link in the description is not working! wanted to let u know
Great video
I was just wondering if the kosher f22 pro has come out yet? And where can I buy it?
No. There is no Kosher F22
Does the kosher version have "talkback"?
It does not
@Jose what was the Reddit page to install apps on the f30?
How would you rate the call sound quality on the F21 out of 10?
Can you put Spotify on the f21?
Yes
I've been looking for the f21 pro quite long way. But I couldn't find anyone to tell me if it works with bank apps. Like they require fingerprint or so to access. Bizum and other things work? Just to know which limitations they have compared to other smartphones.
how can i check if the international ones work with my country greece, just to be sure? i tried using cellmapper to check myself but i got lost 😅
Jose, greetings. Do any of these phones have google play store and google services?
You can purchase the Xiaomi with google play from AliExpress
Thank you. I saw on aliexpress qin f21 pro from google play. But it was not clear to me whether he already has the google play store and google services or they need to be installed. So you think they already have it? And is there a qin f22?
Could you use it as a hotspot to connect your laptop for example?
Yes
Hi @JoseBriones , Late to the game here but does the F30 (or any of these other ones) run on an AOSP rather than full Google android? Always a concern. Thanks!
AOSP. Some versions have Google Play Services added to it though. Just FYI
Thank you as always!
Hey 👋🏼 im very grateful for you video because i bought a f22pro and i was struggling with the keyboard. I don’t understand the point in having one if i can’t use it.
Quick question tho! I’ve installed the tt9 app but is there any app that i can actually type without this “predictive” method? It’s quite confusing for me as i would prefer press it whatever number of times i need for the character. If you understand what i mean!
Edit: Nevermind!!! Found the solution 😊thank you so much! Pls continue with your awesome videos!
______
Just keep pressing # and you can change the typing method and numbers and capital letters. Nice!!!
Try the Kika keyboard or K12 keyboard.
@@JoseBrionesi will also have a look at those.
I’m super grateful for finding ur videos because i was struggling to buy a much less addictive phone that would still give me the ability to use it daily. Im super happy with my choice and you definitely helped with it.
The phone is so lightweight and it’s just enough to use whenever i need but also screen so small enough to get easily bored 😂 hopefully they will make one soon like old blackberry’s with a nicer keyboard. Or a smaller one but with camera for non American 😜 but great suggestions overall!!!
Thanks and have a nice season of holiday and a nice 2024 👍🏼
@@JoseBriones hi 👋🏼 again! So apparently the kika keyboard it comes up on the playstore that the app won’t work for this device…unfortunately….
Than the k12 I can’t seem to find the app. On the google search it appears only physical mechanical keyboard…
I don’t mind this T9 app but I’m struggling to find the @ or any emoji?!? So anytime i type an email i need to change the keyboard to another digital one i have….
F22 is a win for me, smartphone era + easy to use buttons, it will be perfect for older people.
Can you do a video on installing apps and virtual mouse for the TCL Flip 2? It will be beneficial for lots of people, especially those that want specific apps on their phone.
Bonjour. Une caméra frontale existe ou pas ?
what if i buy the f21/22 and i hack it so i can not download other apps? its a doable thing?
is there one with NFC ?
Super useful video, thank you!!
I have a f21 pro google version, for a reason I had to factory reset my phone. After resetting google play store is not working and I’m getting a message this device is not google certified 😢 what am I supposed to do? And thank you very much for the link tt9 keypad. Bcuz I have f22pro as well. I was looking for that keypad every where. ❤
You can probably find a tutorial here on youtube or on reddit
Pressing under screen right button is return, holding it shows opened apps and ,,end of call'' button is return to home screen, am I right?
Correct.
@@JoseBriones thank you
If you get the F22 Pro Global version, can it be used in the US? I’m on Verizon so I’m not sure how that would work.
Not on Verizon.Only on T-mobile
@@JoseBriones dang! But the F30 is good to go right?
Do some of that ones works on ATT pal?
@@JoseBriones do you know if future android versions will be released as updates available to download and install for f21 and f22 versions? Or will you just be stuck with whatever it ships with?
Where can I buy this? I’m in PH 🇵🇭
Links in the description.
Which of these would be a viable option For use in Canada 🇨🇦
All of them
Does the F30 allow spotify?
No
Ive been using a Nokia dumb phone for ever. I was born in 1968 i remember life without phones, internet etc. I never really got involved. I use my phone to make calls. I use my laptop for internet access. My reality is, i don't need to be contactable 24/7 and i don't need constant digital stimulation.
Why would say your birth year, Ya I was born in 1969, ya I remember those day, with no internet, no smart phones.I had those huge honking brick phone, with a huge antenna, you couldn't fit it anywhere was, too big, had to carry it around. We're the same generation, only thing is you're a year older.
Only want Spotify really, otherwise would be happy with a burner - not sure which of these is best for me
Either should be fine.
I went to this company's website and they say that the f21 is the Verizon version. What gives?
I want to buy the F30, but my problem is that I do not know if I can at least install WhatsApp or Viber and make a video call. Please tell me if it is possible to do that, and if yes, then in what version?
Not possible to install WhatsApp or Viber on F30
@@JoseBriones thanks for your reply
Is it possible to install them on qin f21 pro?
Thinking of switching to one of these sure its got less specs than my current phone but I barely use it as is I just need some quality of life apps such as banking, whatsapp etc and listening to music
To everyone who bought F21 or F30, how the battery goes? Can it stays for 24 hours?
So if I live in Italy I have to buy the f21, is it correct? And than, does whatsapp web works?
Yes. And yes whatsapp web works
Qualcuno in Italia allora lo usa! Posso chiederti come ti trovi?
Anyone know how to hack the f30/have a guide to get other apps on it like Jose mentioned?
Hi Jose, I bought an F22 thanks to your really informative videos. I really like the device and I have now ordered an F21 Pro and F22 Pro. Thank you for all the detailed and valuable information. I do have a question I hope you cn answer for me... I am looking to use the physical keyboard for messages without T9.
How do I get the keyboard to work as a regular ABC 123 keyboard. Again, Thanks for your great review videos!!
Old school T9 is an app that lets you do that. You can install it and use it that way.
@@JoseBriones Thanks! I will try again. First time I tried it did not let me get out of predictive text mode (with the underlined letters)👍
@@thatguydubloizehave you found a solution? I’m struggling with this also! I want the non predictive method also.
@@thatguydubloizefound it!!!!!
Just keep pressing # and you can change the typing method and numbers and capital letters. Nice!!!
Does it have hotspot tethering
Yes
Does F21 & F22 support talkback for blinds.
The full version does for each. And you can install them.
@@JoseBriones thanks for answering.
Watching this on my f21 right now lol
why i cant get these in Romania?
AliExpress
hotspot feature?
Yes on F21 and F22
@@JoseBriones thank you👍
whats the discord ??
discord.gg/AWWnbpSGDr
Which Xiaomi dumb phone is the best except f22 pro
Hey Jose, I just got the f21 pro and I cannot seem to use the keypad to type alphabets, it just types out numbers. Is there any fix to this?
Swiped down, select the Qinpad keyboard. Or install K9T9 or Old T9 or TT9 and use those keyboards.
Sir you'rr best
Good phones, thank you😊
I bought this not because I really want a dumb phone, but because I miss T9
I need one as a second phone although typing on those things takes a century 😂 but I guess voice messaging would solve that.
Want one of these so bad but I have ATT
Nowadays.. the only reason people buy dumbphones is to disconnect from everything.. What's the point if you have everything from a 'smartphone' in a 'dumbphone'?
I miss keyboards lol
People may want a device that doesn’t encourage the use of social media without totally losing the possibility of having apps like Whatsapp, gmail and google maps
Your welcome
well that sucks. A phone with physical keys that you can't use by default.
You can if you get the non-Google version
If only they have a qwerty version
Things of that nature things of that nature things of that nature
Yep. Things of that nature shows up a lot of my videos.
Does anyone owning these have privacy concerns considering they’re a Chinese phone? Is there an alt. to a phone exactly like this that’s not from China?
The phone itself is obviously super practical and I’d argue it’s the best dumbphone just wish it wasn’t tied to china. (Not racist, solely privacy concerns)
El celu blanco seve bien almenos estetica mente no termine de ver el video
I'll be honest chief your reviews are not good. Improve them and good luck
Thanks for your thoughts. Hope you find a channel that's better for you. I'll be here.
@@JoseBriones try concentrating less on the unimportant stuff and organizing the videos better. I'm all for smaller channels and you're doing great. Hopefully it improves with time. 👍 good luck
I find the review really useful and it covers all that I was wondering about, I don't really see what you mean, particularly with your very unspecific comment