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Butt out back straight, legs open at shoulders lenght and toes pointing fordward. In Shorinryu we get slapped a lot to make sure the form is correct :)
In kung fu our horse stance tends to be more deep, so people will instinctively bend their backs. This is why we’ll usually hold a stick behind our body to help keep our body straight, thus making the stance more stable.
Hmm... not per se in the Bujinkan. The closest would be shoshin (初心) no kamae, also known as sanshin or gogyo no kamae (not sure what kanji are used for these). Imagine standing in a very wide and deep hanmi. It's used to train sanshin/gogyo no kata, which is often done low for training purposes. As for keeping it stable well uh... don't get what is known as "gaijin butt" where you stick your glutes out. Most of the time it comes from a lack of flexibility, I think. Tuck your rear in, and keep your back and head straight. I'd also like to point something out regarding a previous comment: While the Bujinkan does include three ninjutsu schools in the organisation, it's actually referred to as budo taijutsu. It was marketed as ninjutsu in the '80s, but it created a lot of problems so it's been rebranded. The huge majority of the Bujinkan training stems from Gyokko (玉虎) ryu koshijutsu and Koto (虎倒) ryu koppoujutsu, which are two old kung-fu schools. The main weapon parts come from Kukishinden ((九鬼神) ryu of the Kuki family, a very old samurai school. In total there are six samurai schools, and three ninjutsu schools. The ninjutsu schools aren't taught that much.
In Goju ryu, my senseis always slapped my shoulders and checked my legs and positions to make sure we were stable and were able to resist while also making sure we understood the muscles necessary for each technique. I would say it's a common thing in Okinawa
There is a video where Naka sensei talks about having punches slapped up and down and to the side, rather than along the arm where the force of the punch would be. He thought it was to get the shoulder to align correctly. So that before the slapping, the punch was weaker, but afterwards, it was stronger.
This is very similar to my experience being taught by my master in Tang Soo Do. The focus, time, passion, & dedication they have while teaching you is awesome! I’m always grateful for my master working with me on my forms to make sure I’m always doing it correctly and always improving. Really cool to see your experience! Tang Soo! 🥋🙂
Training to receive force from unanticipated directions is a necessity, as well as extremely useful. You won't always know how an opponent might react to your techniques, but it's more useful when you're up against multiple attackers. You never know when someone else might jump into the fight, and you never know what angle a surprise force might come from.
I think it is more about withstanding blocks from different directions. When your punch is stable, you will see how your opponent will bounce back or even lose balance if his block is not strong enough. You can also find a great explanation of Naka-Sensei here: ua-cam.com/video/RSlKifio2Wk/v-deo.html It really makes your strike much more stable.
The second part makes sense, if you do the move correctly and they counter you. If you can resist a counter from any direction, you still have the technical advantage.
i agree. getting grabbed kicked or punched in a different direction than u expect. can be jarring or tunnel vision you into over reacting to it. the second approach aims to compensate for unexpected variables.
to add on to this. I believe it also trains you, so you can react as if were second nature. You would react more naturally, instead of being read like a book. I am with you on your response.
I'm very impressed with these sensei and Shorin Ryu. Old school training the way I was taught, including the slapping. I am Shotokan. Everything I've seen so far I like. It's like the roots of karate. Which I guess Okinawa is. I'm impressed. Thank you.
In our special training, in SKA Ohshima sensei Shotokan, we stand kibadachi for an hour and a half. The seniors also slap our shoulders, with the purpose of releasing tension, relaxing and to focus on the lower abdomen
Waki shime dude! The smacking of the arm up and down, that you refer to is also part of that first element that you agreed with- "To understand the necessary muscles." It helps you to understand the muscles involved in keeping your shoulder down and the pectoralis/Latissimus lock. (Establishing the firm connection of your arm with your body) It's not so much if you can resist, but how would you resist and what specific muscles are involved.
The incarnation of Matsubayashi I'm learning has 2 horse stances. 1 is jigotai and is used for balance and stability when an opponent is adjacent. The second is niahanchi and has power when facing an opponent. Addressing the second question, I do believe in training the body to handle unusual stresses during kata. Mainly because one can never truly anticipate the out come of an encounter and how an adversary will react. Great video by the way! I'm really enjoying this series. ❤
I speculate that the force from different directions is actually supporting balance training, - "Balance .... maintaining the body’s center of gravity (CoG) vertically over the base of the support, relies on rapid and continuous feedback from visual, vestibular and somatosensory structures for the subsequent execution of smooth and coordinated neuromuscular actions "(Winter, 1995; Zatsiorsky and Duarte, 1999). Force applied to body and extremities from different angles while maintaining a stance challenges and trains somatosensory feedback and neuro-muscular coordination and should therefore improve balance. I'm not claiming that was the original purpose necessarily, but it seems an obvious benefit.
I think that makes sense. I think many of the postures shown have grappling/wrestling application. I can see that in the double punch and the low block while being in horse stance, for example. I think balance is a huge part of wrestling and therefore this training probably helped develop the balance needed for successful grappling.
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Very nice explanation of the Kata, and useful for anyone learning it. The smacking of the muscles is quite Interesting, and shows which ones need to be used, as well as fighting against a force from a direction you don't expect which in my opinion makes sense so that your performance can be as strong as possible.
I think the up and down slapping was followed sharply by requesting you relax your shoulders. That seems to be the purpose - not just tightening but also relaxing.
In our school, which belongs to Shorin Ryu, the Naihanchi katas are taught as the core of the style and from white belt to 10th dan you continue training in the three katas. It is one of those "you can always dig a bit deeper" situations. We also practice bunkai for specific movements and have full circular bunkai for Naihanchi Shodan and Naihanchi Nidan.
@@wanabdulhadi1268 Progression goes something like this: - Kihon Katas: this are not formal katas but basic sets of movements intstituted by Chosin Chibana-sensei (the person that gave Shuri Te its Shorin Ryu name) in order to teach the very basic of dachi, tsuki, geri, uke and walking, coordination, etc. These are basically walk forward and perform a technique and then walk backwards and perform another technique. (usually, 10th and 9th kyu; but practiced regularly afterwards) - Then we start with Naihanchi Shodan and Fukyugata Ichi. The Fukyugatas (of which there will be eventually three) were instituted by the Okinawan Karate Kaikan (where the major Okinawan styles are represented: Shorin Ryu, Uechi Ryu and Goju Ryu) as shared katas between styles that the karateka of Okinawan styles can practice together, regardless of their Ryuha. (from 9th-8th Kyu) - Then progression continues with the Pinan Katas (1-5; known as Heian in Shotokan), Naihanchi Nidan and Sandan, Fukyugata Ni. This will go from around 8th kyu to 1st kyu, continually adding complexity and more bunkai (applications). - From around 3rd-2nd Kyu we begin with the Kusanku Sho kata (Kanku Sho in other styles) and continue through 1st Kyu and 1st Dan and onwards with Itosu no Passai ~ Passai Sho (also pronounced as Bassai), Kusanku Dai, Matsumura no Passai ~ Passai Dai, Teisho ~ Miyahira no Kata. Not in that particular order specifically, we sort of learn and practice in blocks, segments, comparison, bunkai etc and you add more and more katas to your library, like an artist learning movements for their music. I am currently 1st Dan so I may forget some, but the other katas I know of are Gojushiho (54 steps), Koryu Passai, Jion, Unsu, Ryuho... I am probably forgetting some. But, you never stop practicing the earlier katas, you always revisit them with a new point of view, discovering new applications.
@@Yama_no_Kitsune fascinating. Thank you for the insight. I’m currently self-learning matsubayashi ryu and have begun with naihanchi shodan. It would be good insight to know of the progression in learning as I move forward.
@@wanabdulhadi1268 As I understand it, Matsubayashi Ryu is a "brother" of our style "Shorin Ryu", also written as Kobayashi Ryu. So there will be many related elements. The Founder of our School, Shin Shu Kan, was Shinzato Yoshihide, who studied under Choshin Chibana and founded his own school In Brazil when he went away from Okinawa after WW2.
I love the Okinawan approach. of course my background is in Goju Ryu and Wado Ryu. This is how i was trained by my sensei. Always something to learn. With horse stance for us it was taught to sink your energy down into the ground like the roots of a tree. Hard to explain but it worked
Center of gravity is very important. Excellent advice on Naihanchi ashi fumi! Try practicing it in front of a mirror and keeping your nose in the same spot on the mirror.
First: shout out to you brother for training well and being open minded! I'd love to train with pros like urself DOPE Second: I think it is good to get experience focusing thru and resisting random blows. In a defense situation against an untrained fighter who just wants to cause trouble, they just swing randomly at times.
Reminds me of conditioning in Goju. I used to take a beating. The video and content show the intellectual aspect of kata apart from bunkai. When he slaps, he shows the mechanics of strikes and boy he looks like he's built like a tree. I know you had bruises. Well worth it though! Oss!!
It is counterintuitive to relax the shoulder for stability But in truth relaxing the shoulder allows it to blend with the rib cage and become part of the body therefore stabilizing the arm Also it allow chi to flow more which brings stability
I can see how getting your body slapped in various directions, even your punches, can help train your muscles for the various forces. An example for your punches is an age uke pushing your punch from underneath or even a gedan barai pushing your punch to the side. If your muscles have experienced these types of forces, your body wouldn't be so shocked when it encounters those forces from a real fight.
You stances are so wide, deep, and pretty as a picture! Okinawan karate is more natural, so I'm not surprised he (forgive me, I can't find the name of this instructor) immediately focused on that. Most teachers in our school make beginners use big stances to train their bodies, but everything becomes more natural as students advance. You deserve our advanced training, Yusuke :)
@@Supersonic722 Hi, thank you! I also train SKA Shotokan - the Israel branch. As Joseph said above, we indeed do begin with really big and deep stances, but as you said, not as wide as JKA. Even a low stance should be one that while providing stability, it should allow you to move and react quickly and comfortably. I think Ohshima sensei moved back in some nuances to the original Okinawan karate, specially in katas, when compared to JKA
The second part make sense if you also think of it base on physical conditioning. If someone block down on your punch yoy need to be able to resist the downward force to be able to connect the punch.
The slaps are to help you maintain balance and check your stance is strong, however in goju ryu or uechi they use full power blows to break down muscle and condition the body to become strong.
@@KarateDojowaKu I like the fact that you went to okinawa, I'm a shotokan practitioner too. Your videos are a joy to watch sensei. Keep up the great work. 🙂
I think that slapping up on the punching arm is a test of whether you have focused the stance and the muscles just at the junction of the shoulder & chest. That is the way tekki was taught to me in a JKA shotokan dojo 40 years ago.
In Goju, the style I started with, we trained the kime with zanshin. Being able to take an impact from various angles, that is what body conditioning is all about
as i am coming to understand, that karate, at least with the Goju ryu that i have been working with, is this impact training is in San Chin. and that San Chin starts and ends all of the moments in Goju Ryu. That being said, the "end" of any shape (ie application) is started soft as possible, and ends as hard as possible and this variable input from any source is to teach the principle that the shape i make breaks what even shape it used against. as for "horse stances" the yang style tai chi i learned uses a high parallel in their opening, and closings as well as side to side stepping in the horse stand shape, during the movements of "wave hands like clouds." Some in Tai chi, and the other "sister" arts, also use Zhan Zheng or grand post standing. a cornerstone of systems like "I-chuan" and others.
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Shorin-ryu practitioners train hard :-) I think it's a good idea to know what strikes feel like (obviously not to the point of injury) to help with concentration and focus. I do this form very similar to this, (more than Shotokan) with only small differences. Sometimes differences can be between individual schools not just between major styles - it happens :-)
I absolutely love watching your videos, you are very thorough. I practice Tang Soo Do, and I notice similarities here and there which is pretty cool. I watch videos of a lot of styles because I like to learn about them, and when I watch the various styles of karate, I see inward pointed toes during some of the katas. Why is this? is there a purpose? I am not a high enough belt to learn this form (we call it Naihanchi Cho Dan and it is very similar, if not identical), and I can't say I've noticed us doing the same with our toes. Great video, I loved the explanation of all of it.
In UESHIRO Style SRKUSA (as brought to the USA in 1962 by Grand Master Ansei Ueshiro) this technique is known as body testing. The Naihanchi katas are only learned after reaching Brown belt. At this level the karateka have trained rigorously and strengthened their bodies. Body testing is conducted only by senior Black belts.
Hi I practice Naihanchi for a long time and I'm falling alone in your Chanel and the kata is different I guess in Canada is a different style off kata 👍🏾👌🏾🙏🏾
4:10 Horse stance either I played with Abduction stance by Wing Chun and another one type my own Chinese Philosophic Horse stance I make my toe aligned at the perpendicular base of my toes whilst only shoulder width it is a horse whilst my integrated one were the Front stance not wide as Shotokan but often similarly at the Nippon Kenpo whilst my Wing Chun among my supected anomally as though it is considered outdated for modern combat especially against the fierce Muay Thai low kick
In our dojo we make stances more stable by testing them with a partner pushing & pulling to try & upset your balance (if they can). For example in kiba dachi, where the strength is from the side, a partner will push & pull you from the left side first and then repeat the exercise on the right side (not from the front or back). A similar exercise is then used in zenkutsu dachi & kokutsu dachi. Afterwards the stances are visibly far more sturdy in Kihon, Kata & Kumite. So that is our method.
Wow.. i just finished to view the all video... and from de minute 5.. i really notice that with this sensei the kata is not just about how to you stand... is to tobe straight and strong... did you feel it sensei yusuke ?
On point 2 of slappong, it is probably more accurste to say it is to find the right alignment in your body. When you have the right alingment in a technique the result is you can resist variius forces without trying to resist, i.e. your body is properly aligned and in its strongest position ffor the texhnique. Hope that makes sense.
My GUESS on the logic behind training with a force applied LATERALLY to a punch direction, would be training to strengthen a punch against being blocked in those directions. It seems to me that it would make your punches harder to deflect. /deep bow
I love your insights of Shorin Ryu. First of all, as you could see, they do not twist around their hip with (almost) every move like some others styles do. Second: Think the slapping as a way to remember how you muscle tension should be in the moment of impact (punch, kick or block). You don't need to be in tension after the move, but if your sensei want to test how you "tight your meat", then you tension your muscles.
Yes, we have a horse stance. We practice being unreasonably deep in practice so that in sparring or real life it will be sufficiently deep & we will have no problem moving around & striking from a slightly less deep & more practical horse stance.
From my understanding, when he slaps your strike, it is to allow you to find the strongest position to hold your shoulder and arm. So if you were to strike using that strong position right away, there would be less chance for it to be deflected, or it will be deflected less. The slaps also work as conditioning, it was jarring when I first experienced it, but as I progressed I almost welcomed the correction (slap test), it's a reminder that there is going to be contact and you will not always know where it will be coming from.
I can understand getting slapped or resisting a force from a different direction. To me, it is like pinching through and attempted block. Or like I'm football when we did drills where we were getting hit from the sides, high, low, etc. while trying to run forward. You don't k ow where the block is going to come from or how someone is going to react to your move, so in addition to being able to punch "through" your target (the force in opposition to how you are punching) the other motions help strengthen the other muscles used during the punch to make it harder to block.
Naka Sensei does a great video on the Kuro Obi World channel talking about the slapping and how it makes your body stronger. In our version of Goju Ryu, we practise Shikodachi from Zenkutsu Dachi. Take a strong Zenkutsu, then bend and pivot the rear leg only, and you will be in Shikodachi. If your Zenkutsu was strong, so will your Shikodachi. Our Shikodachi is done with the feet pointing out at 45 degrees. I must say, I loved the look on your face at the first shoulder slap. 😁
The answer to your questions at the end is this: we are all built differently. Although we do the same movements, our various body parts articulate differently. The smacking is done to train your brain and body to align themselves into the best anatomical positions for YOUR techniques. A smaller or bigger person will adjust themselves mentally and physically as well.
Another straight line form. Have him do it off the floor on a plank of wood which is supported by bar stools or something like that. Then work it to a retaining wall or a bar and do a bar scene
Watch this keeping in mind that Yusuke is Yudansha in Shotokan hence he has trained Tekki Sho, Ni, and San. The corrections being made in his stance and waza are reflections of the difference between the Shorin-ryu and 'Shotokan interpretations. If you want to see another example of these differences, I refer you to the episode in 'Great Journey of Karate' featuring Naka Sensei and Shimbukuro Sensei. You'll the distinct difference in stance and movement in the katas they compare and contrast.
I would say that it is incredibly important to train stability at every angle because in actual fight, your punches and blocks don't always land the way you want them to. If you throw a jab, and the opponent throws an overhand right at the same time, sometimes the punches gets jammed on the way. If your arm is strong, a jab can also become a long guard. 👍
I am familiar with applying force from various directions while performing Sanchin. I always thought, purpose of this was to train the ability to keep tension for longer time. Recently I came across teachings strongly emphasizing kime, which made me realize, tension does not necessarily need to be continuous. It only needs to be present in the moment of contact. The explanation I got was: have you ever held firefighter hose? think of your body as that hose. Think of kime as water filling up your body from ground to the point where you touch the opponent (or he touches you). Therefore my current understanding of applying force is: it should teach you direct your kime to the contact point, it should teach you to speed up the kime to the point your reactions are fast enough to withstand unexpected force/attack.
Yes, because when you actually fight where an opponent or foe contacts you won't absolutely be predictable, but can be generalized, so its a controlled way to get used to being struck and resisting it. Also by shocking the body with quick loads it strengthens the stabilizer muscles and fasciae.
Yes, the heavy targeted open palm strikes/slaps as well as end step kicks to ones body are all good conditioning techniques. I was taught by my 8th Dan Okinawan Shorin Ryu instructor that a true man of Karate has to be just as conditioned (mind, body & Spirit) to take a beating as he is skilled to deliver one. Osu!
In shorinryu shidokan when training the different katas especially naihachin katas we are expected to execute full force striking and blocking while your body is being fully tense and relax at the same time. We do it eyes closed or blind folded so you can't cheat. Our sensei sometimes slap, punch and kick different parts of the body sometimes perform a joint locks on you while you're punching so you really need to tensed up and resist while receiving attacks from the sensei 😅. That's part of how we trained in kata.
Hi there! One general question: Well I know that you do online-lessons but do you also teach karate directly in your dojo in Tokyo aswell? Maybe not now because of the Coronavirus but maybe after the virus-problem has been dealt with?
@@KarateDojowaKu : it's just an Okinawans way of thinking that one of your Shorin-ryu teachers showed as well. From shiko-dachi you turn 45 degrees and put your body weight forward and get zenkutsu-dachi. Then shift the weight back and pull your front feet to get nekoashi-dachi. In essence, shiko-dachi defines height and wide. Hence, the mother.
When being slapped on the punches from directions the punch didnt come from, wouldnt that simulate the force you may encounter from a block? So it would train you to offer some resistance to a block and make it harder for your opponent to sweep your block out of the way and create an opening.
ITF Taekwondo sitting stance is Annun Sogi. In this stance the feet are one and a half shoulder width apart, measured from the inside of the big toes. The weight distribution is 50-50 on each leg and the knees are bent and pushed outward until the kneecaps are directly over the balls of the feet The toes are facing forward and the feet are parallel. You should grip the ground with the side of your feet. The back should be held errect
Yeah, I personally think it's important to check from different directions. You never know how you're going to get tangled up with someone, even if you think you can play it at 100% your game. So, it's all helping train proprioception as well as some tactile awareness, not so much a sensitivity training feeling like in Sanchin, but useful nonetheless.
Yes, "happy slaps" are more than body conditioning. When you punch, an opponent will try to defend against it if possible. You must be able to strike through their defense. Striking the arms simulates that resistance as well as emphasizing the proper muscles and posture. As always, beginners are treated differently. But the same goes for uke. If a more advanced student doesn't receive an attack properly, then they get "hit" with a gentle reminder. Karate must be practiced against realistic resistance.
The slapping is to work on tempering your body so you know what it feels like. Alot of people especially beginners have really never been hit. You can say thank you God, that he is not using a stick.
I'm not sure whether you will agree. The way we practice with shotokan is that we are too much focused on form that we tend to lose energy and stability on each step of the kata. I've seen a lot of people do this that they basically lose balance per each step
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They show how your weight is supposed to be distributed. In front stance your body mass should be going forward. It's lunging. You are shooting your body weight forward to punch or to push. In Back stance, you are pulling. It's pretty much the same position you'd naturally use while pulling rope in tug of war. In a position with your feet together you are shooting your body mass upward. Maybe you have someone in a joint lock and you want to pressure that joint. Also, that stance makes your body smaller. So, if you've thrown someone to the ground or have them in a lock, you might use that position to pressure their joints AND make it less likely for them top hit you if they're flailing around. In a cat stance your weight is going backward ..like in a back stance and to the inside 45 degree, a little bit. So think covering from a hook with your right hand like a boxer would and maybe extending the opposite hand to push the puncher away. Shaolin schools use it to trip opponents as well. All stances are functional and meant to be paired with grappling maneuvers, like hikite. Hikite is the pulling hand. It;s the hand that's pulled to your waist while you punch. Stances are flat footed because you can't pull whilst being on your toes. Also, in my view, stances should only be held as long as needed. That, is they're flat footed when they need to be and on their toes when not. Like in wrestling. A LOT of karate techniques can be immediately applied as wrestling techniques if you understand wrestling.
@@bhoomibhamani4290 No problem, I forgot to add that horse stance is used when you want to send your body mass straight down or when you want to move laterally. As in, for example, if someone is trying to stab you and you grab them with one arm whilst holding them and placing your forearm at their throat with the other. Putting your weight on them makes it less likely that they can kick you and they can't move as fast. Also, horse stance is great for wrestling. See this video ua-cam.com/video/r5bN2axTb3Q/v-deo.html&lc=UgzkE2fyTjYxWL0EjgJ4AaABAg.9MT2w-Ulj7a9MT5yH9bGyn
Having gotten a bit of this "meat-toughening" too over the years (always a fun time), I also find it a little bit weird how some folks will hit unexpected places when testing your techniques. If I could make a guess as to why he does it the way he does when he tests your augmented punch, I'd go one of two ways: 1. Like he says: it may be less a matter of checking how strong the technique itself is, but a way of making sure you're tensing and relaxing the right muscles for the purposes of the exercise (which seemed to be something comparable to a breathing and tension exercise vs an exercise in combat execution). The comparison to how Goju-ryu instructors test their students when they train Sanchin really drove that home (for me, at least), even if this does still seem a little bit different from that. 2. Much more straightforwardly: could it also be a way of checking how capable you'd be of resisting a block from those angles? Since a block wouldn't generally come from the direct opposite angle at all, but would try to intercept you, stop you short, and "receive" your technique. It does seem weird to test that after the technique is finished, but there are, of course, some circumstances (especially in Naihanchi, where things that look like striking techniques or punches at first glance commonly get applied as grappling techniques) where you want to maintain a strong hold on a resistant opponent (moments where you'll necessarily want to resist their attempts to break your hold)
Absolutely you should experience all directions of movement because real fights are fluid People use circular blocks rising blocks crossing blocks they wrestle they attempt arm bars So learning how to become stable against 360 degrees of directions make you well rounded (excuse the pun)
Having performed the Matsubayashi-ryu version, I'm sure you can tell there are many similarities. In fact, the only differences are the steps and opening/closing posture. We perform Naihanchi ashi fumi with every step (I know Shinzato Sensei did not, but that may be due to changes over time; the administration of our school regularly updates the details of kata to improve our teachings.) Here you see the heel comes up to the thigh before stomping. When stepping, we plant the ball of the foot, but I will try using the foot edge. This may be improvement, which I love to learn! Also, the toes should point slightly inward as shown. I don't think this was mentioned in the Matsubayashi-ryu videos. We start and finish in Heisoku dachi, but use a covered fist posture for Naihanchi 1-3 instead of both hands open.
The slapping is interesting. I have never experienced any sparring or amateur fights where that second explanation could be applied. My experience has been that people will simply slip or block with their glove. And if they block, I just return my hand back immediately. I’m guessing the second reason is a response to the hard blocks in karate
Do you have a "Horse Stance" in your martial art? If so, how do you make them stable?
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Yeah we use this stance in so many Katas 😊
The kata you did, is called 'Yanchi' in our style
Butt out back straight, legs open at shoulders lenght and toes pointing fordward. In Shorinryu we get slapped a lot to make sure the form is correct :)
In kung fu our horse stance tends to be more deep, so people will instinctively bend their backs. This is why we’ll usually hold a stick behind our body to help keep our body straight, thus making the stance more stable.
We have horse stance. Feet out 45 degrees, knees over toes, butt tucked in, spine straight.
Hmm... not per se in the Bujinkan. The closest would be shoshin (初心) no kamae, also known as sanshin or gogyo no kamae (not sure what kanji are used for these). Imagine standing in a very wide and deep hanmi. It's used to train sanshin/gogyo no kata, which is often done low for training purposes.
As for keeping it stable well uh... don't get what is known as "gaijin butt" where you stick your glutes out. Most of the time it comes from a lack of flexibility, I think. Tuck your rear in, and keep your back and head straight.
I'd also like to point something out regarding a previous comment: While the Bujinkan does include three ninjutsu schools in the organisation, it's actually referred to as budo taijutsu. It was marketed as ninjutsu in the '80s, but it created a lot of problems so it's been rebranded.
The huge majority of the Bujinkan training stems from Gyokko (玉虎) ryu koshijutsu and Koto (虎倒) ryu koppoujutsu, which are two old kung-fu schools. The main weapon parts come from Kukishinden ((九鬼神) ryu of the Kuki family, a very old samurai school.
In total there are six samurai schools, and three ninjutsu schools. The ninjutsu schools aren't taught that much.
In Goju ryu, my senseis always slapped my shoulders and checked my legs and positions to make sure we were stable and were able to resist while also making sure we understood the muscles necessary for each technique. I would say it's a common thing in Okinawa
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
There is a video where Naka sensei talks about having punches slapped up and down and to the side, rather than along the arm where the force of the punch would be. He thought it was to get the shoulder to align correctly. So that before the slapping, the punch was weaker, but afterwards, it was stronger.
I believe THIS is the primary reason for it.
I see! Thanks for sharing that!
This is very similar to my experience being taught by my master in Tang Soo Do. The focus, time, passion, & dedication they have while teaching you is awesome! I’m always grateful for my master working with me on my forms to make sure I’m always doing it correctly and always improving.
Really cool to see your experience!
Tang Soo! 🥋🙂
Thanks for sharing!
Training to receive force from unanticipated directions is a necessity, as well as extremely useful. You won't always know how an opponent might react to your techniques, but it's more useful when you're up against multiple attackers. You never know when someone else might jump into the fight, and you never know what angle a surprise force might come from.
Great point!
I think it is more about withstanding blocks from different directions.
When your punch is stable, you will see how your opponent will bounce back or even lose balance if his block is not strong enough.
You can also find a great explanation of Naka-Sensei here: ua-cam.com/video/RSlKifio2Wk/v-deo.html
It really makes your strike much more stable.
Uema Sensei seems like a chill person. I bet there's a thrilling feeling been taught by him.
Yep there was!
The second part makes sense, if you do the move correctly and they counter you. If you can resist a counter from any direction, you still have the technical advantage.
i agree. getting grabbed kicked or punched in a different direction than u expect. can be jarring or tunnel vision you into over reacting to it. the second approach aims to compensate for unexpected variables.
to add on to this. I believe it also trains you, so you can react as if were second nature. You would react more naturally, instead of being read like a book. I am with you on your response.
Thanks for sharing your insight!
I also agree with you 😊
I'm very impressed with these sensei and Shorin Ryu. Old school training the way I was taught, including the slapping. I am Shotokan. Everything I've seen so far I like. It's like the roots of karate. Which I guess Okinawa is. I'm impressed. Thank you.
Thanks!
In our special training, in SKA Ohshima sensei Shotokan, we stand kibadachi for an hour and a half. The seniors also slap our shoulders, with the purpose of releasing tension, relaxing and to focus on the lower abdomen
humility in learning and training. sums it all
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Waki shime dude! The smacking of the arm up and down, that you refer to is also part of that first element that you agreed with- "To understand the necessary muscles." It helps you to understand the muscles involved in keeping your shoulder down and the pectoralis/Latissimus lock. (Establishing the firm connection of your arm with your body) It's not so much if you can resist, but how would you resist and what specific muscles are involved.
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
The incarnation of Matsubayashi I'm learning has 2 horse stances. 1 is jigotai and is used for balance and stability when an opponent is adjacent. The second is niahanchi and has power when facing an opponent.
Addressing the second question, I do believe in training the body to handle unusual stresses during kata. Mainly because one can never truly anticipate the out come of an encounter and how an adversary will react. Great video by the way! I'm really enjoying this series. ❤
another addition to my naihanchi playlist! this is probably one of the best naihanchi video i can find on youtube!
I speculate that the force from different directions is actually supporting balance training, -
"Balance .... maintaining the body’s center of gravity (CoG) vertically over the base of the support, relies on rapid and continuous feedback from visual, vestibular and somatosensory structures for the subsequent execution of smooth and coordinated neuromuscular actions "(Winter, 1995; Zatsiorsky and Duarte, 1999).
Force applied to body and extremities from different angles while maintaining a stance challenges and trains somatosensory feedback and neuro-muscular coordination and should therefore improve balance. I'm not claiming that was the original purpose necessarily, but it seems an obvious benefit.
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
I think that makes sense. I think many of the postures shown have grappling/wrestling application. I can see that in the double punch and the low block while being in horse stance, for example. I think balance is a huge part of wrestling and therefore this training probably helped develop the balance needed for successful grappling.
Your videos are awesome. Thank you for your hard work. I am very intetrested in Martial Arts, their differences, techniques, philosofy, history etc. So I enjoy all of your vids! I btw. practice traditional Taekwon-Do.
Great video Nihanchi katas are one of my favorite. I was very blessed to have a teacher who was connected to Shugoro Nakazato.
The tips for naihanchi dachi and the soto mawashi uke, as well as the lower hand position in the uchi mawashi uke, were very insightful!
I also just realised, we’re the same age!
I agree!
Haha nice!
Very nice explanation of the Kata, and useful for anyone learning it. The smacking of the muscles is quite Interesting, and shows which ones need to be used, as well as fighting against a force from a direction you don't expect which in my opinion makes sense so that your performance can be as strong as possible.
I think the up and down slapping was followed sharply by requesting you relax your shoulders. That seems to be the purpose - not just tightening but also relaxing.
I see
Yes horse stance is a very good stance for strengthening. Your, all stances are good strengthening and also for stretching.
Totally agree!
In our school, which belongs to Shorin Ryu, the Naihanchi katas are taught as the core of the style and from white belt to 10th dan you continue training in the three katas. It is one of those "you can always dig a bit deeper" situations.
We also practice bunkai for specific movements and have full circular bunkai for Naihanchi Shodan and Naihanchi Nidan.
What do you normally learn after all 3 naihanchi?
@@wanabdulhadi1268 Progression goes something like this:
- Kihon Katas: this are not formal katas but basic sets of movements intstituted by Chosin Chibana-sensei (the person that gave Shuri Te its Shorin Ryu name) in order to teach the very basic of dachi, tsuki, geri, uke and walking, coordination, etc. These are basically walk forward and perform a technique and then walk backwards and perform another technique. (usually, 10th and 9th kyu; but practiced regularly afterwards)
- Then we start with Naihanchi Shodan and Fukyugata Ichi. The Fukyugatas (of which there will be eventually three) were instituted by the Okinawan Karate Kaikan (where the major Okinawan styles are represented: Shorin Ryu, Uechi Ryu and Goju Ryu) as shared katas between styles that the karateka of Okinawan styles can practice together, regardless of their Ryuha. (from 9th-8th Kyu)
- Then progression continues with the Pinan Katas (1-5; known as Heian in Shotokan), Naihanchi Nidan and Sandan, Fukyugata Ni. This will go from around 8th kyu to 1st kyu, continually adding complexity and more bunkai (applications).
- From around 3rd-2nd Kyu we begin with the Kusanku Sho kata (Kanku Sho in other styles) and continue through 1st Kyu and 1st Dan and onwards with Itosu no Passai ~ Passai Sho (also pronounced as Bassai), Kusanku Dai, Matsumura no Passai ~ Passai Dai, Teisho ~ Miyahira no Kata. Not in that particular order specifically, we sort of learn and practice in blocks, segments, comparison, bunkai etc and you add more and more katas to your library, like an artist learning movements for their music.
I am currently 1st Dan so I may forget some, but the other katas I know of are Gojushiho (54 steps), Koryu Passai, Jion, Unsu, Ryuho... I am probably forgetting some. But, you never stop practicing the earlier katas, you always revisit them with a new point of view, discovering new applications.
@@Yama_no_Kitsune fascinating. Thank you for the insight. I’m currently self-learning matsubayashi ryu and have begun with naihanchi shodan. It would be good insight to know of the progression in learning as I move forward.
@@wanabdulhadi1268 As I understand it, Matsubayashi Ryu is a "brother" of our style "Shorin Ryu", also written as Kobayashi Ryu. So there will be many related elements.
The Founder of our School, Shin Shu Kan, was Shinzato Yoshihide, who studied under Choshin Chibana and founded his own school In Brazil when he went away from Okinawa after WW2.
Thank you for this instructional video. Ach great, helpful
I love the Okinawan approach. of course my background is in Goju Ryu and Wado Ryu. This is how i was trained by my sensei. Always something to learn. With horse stance for us it was taught to sink your energy down into the ground like the roots of a tree. Hard to explain but it worked
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Center of gravity is very important. Excellent advice on Naihanchi ashi fumi! Try practicing it in front of a mirror and keeping your nose in the same spot on the mirror.
Thanks for the tips!
First: shout out to you brother for training well and being open minded! I'd love to train with pros like urself DOPE
Second: I think it is good to get experience focusing thru and resisting random blows. In a defense situation against an untrained fighter who just wants to cause trouble, they just swing randomly at times.
Reminds me of conditioning in Goju. I used to take a beating. The video and content show the intellectual aspect of kata apart from bunkai. When he slaps, he shows the mechanics of strikes and boy he looks like he's built like a tree. I know you had bruises. Well worth it though! Oss!!
Surprisingly, for some reason, I didn't have any bruises...
Awesome vid! Really liked this one.
Great Lesson
Loved the slaps of understanding
I agree!
It is counterintuitive to relax the shoulder for stability
But in truth relaxing the shoulder allows it to blend with the rib cage and become part of the body therefore stabilizing the arm
Also it allow chi to flow more which brings stability
I agree
I can see how getting your body slapped in various directions, even your punches, can help train your muscles for the various forces. An example for your punches is an age uke pushing your punch from underneath or even a gedan barai pushing your punch to the side. If your muscles have experienced these types of forces, your body wouldn't be so shocked when it encounters those forces from a real fight.
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
You stances are so wide, deep, and pretty as a picture! Okinawan karate is more natural, so I'm not surprised he (forgive me, I can't find the name of this instructor) immediately focused on that. Most teachers in our school make beginners use big stances to train their bodies, but everything becomes more natural as students advance. You deserve our advanced training, Yusuke :)
haha thanks
Do you train SKA Ohshima Shotokan?
@@Supersonic722 Hi, thank you! I also train SKA Shotokan - the Israel branch. As Joseph said above, we indeed do begin with really big and deep stances, but as you said, not as wide as JKA. Even a low stance should be one that while providing stability, it should allow you to move and react quickly and comfortably. I think Ohshima sensei moved back in some nuances to the original Okinawan karate, specially in katas, when compared to JKA
The second part make sense if you also think of it base on physical conditioning. If someone block down on your punch yoy need to be able to resist the downward force to be able to connect the punch.
It is a great way to train I miss the physical correction in my training
The slaps are to help you maintain balance and check your stance is strong, however in goju ryu or uechi they use full power blows to break down muscle and condition the body to become strong.
I'm sure they would do that to someone that would meet that level in Shorin Ryu as well. Like they said, it's all about the adjustments.
@@KarateDojowaKu I like the fact that you went to okinawa, I'm a shotokan practitioner too. Your videos are a joy to watch sensei. Keep up the great work. 🙂
"Getting slapped" is an understatement lol
haha probably smacked would've been better
haha I changed it
@@KarateDojowaKu hahaha Love it!
I just love this kata
I think that slapping up on the punching arm is a test of whether you have focused the stance and the muscles just at the junction of the shoulder & chest.
That is the way tekki was taught to me in a JKA shotokan dojo 40 years ago.
I see! I didn't know JKA did this 4 0 years ago!
In Goju, the style I started with, we trained the kime with zanshin. Being able to take an impact from various angles, that is what body conditioning is all about
as i am coming to understand, that karate, at least with the Goju ryu that i have been working with, is this impact training is in San Chin. and that San Chin starts and ends all of the moments in Goju Ryu. That being said, the "end" of any shape (ie application) is started soft as possible, and ends as hard as possible and this variable input from any source is to teach the principle that the shape i make breaks what even shape it used against. as for "horse stances" the yang style tai chi i learned uses a high parallel in their opening, and closings as well as side to side stepping in the horse stand shape, during the movements of "wave hands like clouds." Some in Tai chi, and the other "sister" arts, also use Zhan Zheng or grand post standing. a cornerstone of systems like "I-chuan" and others.
Wow! thanks for making the connection with Tai chi as well!
Hello sir
I see your videos everyday 😊😘
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@@raya472Thank you so much 💞
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What is the situation of corona in your country?
@@bhoomibhamani4290 I'm currently staying in the Caribbean, doing some work here going home soon. It is increasing sporadically but the people and weather is generally amazing though.
I practice my horse stance by doing the chair on the wall :)
Also really nice video for insight on other technique
Thanks!
Shorin-ryu practitioners train hard :-) I think it's a good idea to know what strikes feel like (obviously not to the point of injury) to help with concentration and focus. I do this form very similar to this, (more than Shotokan) with only small differences. Sometimes differences can be between individual schools not just between major styles - it happens :-)
I see! Thanks for sharing!
I absolutely love watching your videos, you are very thorough. I practice Tang Soo Do, and I notice similarities here and there which is pretty cool. I watch videos of a lot of styles because I like to learn about them, and when I watch the various styles of karate, I see inward pointed toes during some of the katas. Why is this? is there a purpose? I am not a high enough belt to learn this form (we call it Naihanchi Cho Dan and it is very similar, if not identical), and I can't say I've noticed us doing the same with our toes. Great video, I loved the explanation of all of it.
I would love to train with this sensei
Awesome vid.
In UESHIRO Style SRKUSA (as brought to the USA in 1962 by Grand Master Ansei Ueshiro) this technique is known as body testing. The Naihanchi katas are only learned after reaching Brown belt. At this level the karateka have trained rigorously and strengthened their bodies. Body testing is conducted only by senior Black belts.
Hi I practice Naihanchi for a long time and I'm falling alone in your Chanel and the kata is different I guess in Canada is a different style off kata 👍🏾👌🏾🙏🏾
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Horse stance either I played with Abduction stance by Wing Chun and another one type my own Chinese Philosophic Horse stance I make my toe aligned at the perpendicular base of my toes whilst only shoulder width
it is a horse whilst my integrated one were the Front stance not wide as Shotokan but often similarly at the Nippon Kenpo whilst my Wing Chun among my supected anomally as though it is considered outdated for modern combat especially against the fierce Muay Thai low kick
In our dojo we make stances more stable by testing them with a partner pushing & pulling to try & upset your balance (if they can). For example in kiba dachi, where the strength is from the side, a partner will push & pull you from the left side first and then repeat the exercise on the right side (not from the front or back). A similar exercise is then used in zenkutsu dachi & kokutsu dachi. Afterwards the stances are visibly far more sturdy in Kihon, Kata & Kumite. So that is our method.
Wow.. i just finished to view the all video... and from de minute 5.. i really notice that with this sensei the kata is not just about how to you stand... is to tobe straight and strong... did you feel it sensei yusuke ?
On point 2 of slappong, it is probably more accurste to say it is to find the right alignment in your body. When you have the right alingment in a technique the result is you can resist variius forces without trying to resist, i.e. your body is properly aligned and in its strongest position ffor the texhnique. Hope that makes sense.
My GUESS on the logic behind training with a force applied LATERALLY to a punch direction, would be training to strengthen a punch against being blocked in those directions. It seems to me that it would make your punches harder to deflect. /deep bow
Thanks for sharing your idea!!!!
I think the slapping is used to condition and improve rigidity in the strikes. Like turning your arms into steel or stone.
I love your insights of Shorin Ryu. First of all, as you could see, they do not twist around their hip with (almost) every move like some others styles do. Second: Think the slapping as a way to remember how you muscle tension should be in the moment of impact (punch, kick or block). You don't need to be in tension after the move, but if your sensei want to test how you "tight your meat", then you tension your muscles.
I see! Thanks for the clear explanation!
Yes, we have a horse stance. We practice being unreasonably deep in practice so that in sparring or real life it will be sufficiently deep & we will have no problem moving around & striking from a slightly less deep & more practical horse stance.
Wooo first! The horse stance that is here is the horse stamce that ive learned lol. Same karate form
Keep up the great videos! Love this
From my understanding, when he slaps your strike, it is to allow you to find the strongest position to hold your shoulder and arm. So if you were to strike using that strong position right away, there would be less chance for it to be deflected, or it will be deflected less. The slaps also work as conditioning, it was jarring when I first experienced it, but as I progressed I almost welcomed the correction (slap test), it's a reminder that there is going to be contact and you will not always know where it will be coming from.
We do this same kata in Shobayashi Shorin-Ryu. A short kata a so far challenging to learn
I can understand getting slapped or resisting a force from a different direction. To me, it is like pinching through and attempted block. Or like I'm football when we did drills where we were getting hit from the sides, high, low, etc. while trying to run forward.
You don't k ow where the block is going to come from or how someone is going to react to your move, so in addition to being able to punch "through" your target (the force in opposition to how you are punching) the other motions help strengthen the other muscles used during the punch to make it harder to block.
Naka Sensei does a great video on the Kuro Obi World channel talking about the slapping and how it makes your body stronger.
In our version of Goju Ryu, we practise Shikodachi from Zenkutsu Dachi. Take a strong Zenkutsu, then bend and pivot the rear leg only, and you will be in Shikodachi. If your Zenkutsu was strong, so will your Shikodachi. Our Shikodachi is done with the feet pointing out at 45 degrees.
I must say, I loved the look on your face at the first shoulder slap. 😁
The answer to your questions at the end is this: we are all built differently. Although we do the same movements, our various body parts articulate differently. The smacking is done to train your brain and body to align themselves into the best anatomical positions for YOUR techniques. A smaller or bigger person will adjust themselves mentally and physically as well.
Another straight line form. Have him do it off the floor on a plank of wood which is supported by bar stools or something like that. Then work it to a retaining wall or a bar and do a bar scene
Interesting
Watch this keeping in mind that Yusuke is Yudansha in Shotokan hence he has trained Tekki Sho, Ni, and San. The corrections being made in his stance and waza are reflections of the difference between the Shorin-ryu and 'Shotokan interpretations. If you want to see another example of these differences, I refer you to the episode in 'Great Journey of Karate' featuring Naka Sensei and Shimbukuro Sensei. You'll the distinct difference in stance and movement in the katas they compare and contrast.
I would say that it is incredibly important to train stability at every angle because in actual fight, your punches and blocks don't always land the way you want them to. If you throw a jab, and the opponent throws an overhand right at the same time, sometimes the punches gets jammed on the way. If your arm is strong, a jab can also become a long guard. 👍
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
I am familiar with applying force from various directions while performing Sanchin. I always thought, purpose of this was to train the ability to keep tension for longer time. Recently I came across teachings strongly emphasizing kime, which made me realize, tension does not necessarily need to be continuous. It only needs to be present in the moment of contact. The explanation I got was: have you ever held firefighter hose? think of your body as that hose. Think of kime as water filling up your body from ground to the point where you touch the opponent (or he touches you). Therefore my current understanding of applying force is: it should teach you direct your kime to the contact point, it should teach you to speed up the kime to the point your reactions are fast enough to withstand unexpected force/attack.
Yes, because when you actually fight where an opponent or foe contacts you won't absolutely be predictable, but can be generalized, so its a controlled way to get used to being struck and resisting it. Also by shocking the body with quick loads it strengthens the stabilizer muscles and fasciae.
Yes, the heavy targeted open palm strikes/slaps as well as end step kicks to ones body are all good conditioning techniques. I was taught by my 8th Dan Okinawan Shorin Ryu instructor that a true man of Karate has to be just as conditioned (mind, body & Spirit) to take a beating as he is skilled to deliver one.
Osu!
In shorinryu shidokan when training the different katas especially naihachin katas we are expected to execute full force striking and blocking while your body is being fully tense and relax at the same time. We do it eyes closed or blind folded so you can't cheat. Our sensei sometimes slap, punch and kick different parts of the body sometimes perform a joint locks on you while you're punching so you really need to tensed up and resist while receiving attacks from the sensei 😅. That's part of how we trained in kata.
Hi there! One general question: Well I know that you do online-lessons but do you also teach karate directly in your dojo in Tokyo aswell? Maybe not now because of the Coronavirus but maybe after the virus-problem has been dealt with?
I coach at a school and hold lessons for people traveling to Japan, so after Covid, you're welcomed to come visit me!
鉄騎初段のバランスよく出来なかった
理由がわかりました。
さすが、沖縄伝統空手ですね。
勉強になりました。
In Goju-ryu Jundokan a shiko-dachi is a mother of all stances (by "all" we mean the other two: zenkutsu and nekoashi as sanchin stands apart). :)
It's interesting that your organization places Shiko dachi as the mother!
@@KarateDojowaKu : it's just an Okinawans way of thinking that one of your Shorin-ryu teachers showed as well. From shiko-dachi you turn 45 degrees and put your body weight forward and get zenkutsu-dachi. Then shift the weight back and pull your front feet to get nekoashi-dachi. In essence, shiko-dachi defines height and wide. Hence, the mother.
@@KarateDojowaKu : oh, I forgot to mention that feet in Goju's shiko-dachi are facing 45 degrees outward. Then it makes more sense.
I generally enjoy these videos. I would have liked to see how the kata is applied though.
hi, I am here from paolo's video!
When being slapped on the punches from directions the punch didnt come from, wouldnt that simulate the force you may encounter from a block? So it would train you to offer some resistance to a block and make it harder for your opponent to sweep your block out of the way and create an opening.
>> Getting slapped in directions other than where force is given and/or received...
Thanks for making the connection with a grappler as well!
Hello sensei
Do you also offer private lessons online?
ITF Taekwondo sitting stance is Annun Sogi. In this stance the feet are one and a half shoulder width apart, measured from the inside of the big toes.
The weight distribution is 50-50 on each leg and the knees are bent and pushed outward until the kneecaps are directly over the balls of the feet
The toes are facing forward and the feet are parallel.
You should grip the ground with the side of your feet. The back should be held errect
Yeah, I personally think it's important to check from different directions. You never know how you're going to get tangled up with someone, even if you think you can play it at 100% your game. So, it's all helping train proprioception as well as some tactile awareness, not so much a sensitivity training feeling like in Sanchin, but useful nonetheless.
Yes, "happy slaps" are more than body conditioning. When you punch, an opponent will try to defend against it if possible. You must be able to strike through their defense. Striking the arms simulates that resistance as well as emphasizing the proper muscles and posture.
As always, beginners are treated differently. But the same goes for uke. If a more advanced student doesn't receive an attack properly, then they get "hit" with a gentle reminder. Karate must be practiced against realistic resistance.
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
Maybe the second reason is to help show which muscles are used and help show where strengthening is required?
I am impressed by the Sensei Uema level. Shorin Ryu is the father of the Shotokan.
I feel like the 2nd point is to resist to forces that you may not predict and be prepared for them.
Great point!
The slapping is to work on tempering your body so you know what it feels like. Alot of people especially beginners have really never been hit. You can say thank you God, that he is not using a stick.
Haha I see
Yes , we have the horse stand, and we try to get down, from little to very down and step from step we do a stable horse stand
Another main reason is body conditioning . This appears ,as the master said, in sanchin training in goju ryu, uechi ryu, and of course kyokushin
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
Any thoughts on why the sensei is counting yon and nana for four and seven instead of shi and shichi?
You can count both ways
I'm not sure whether you will agree. The way we practice with shotokan is that we are too much focused on form that we tend to lose energy and stability on each step of the kata. I've seen a lot of people do this that they basically lose balance per each step
Sensei I have one question 🤔
Why stances are important in Kata??
Please answer me sensei 👆💞
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If Anyone have answer of this question so... please answer me 😊
Stability, self control, momentum, strength, and conditioning.
@@ppkrex thanks for informing 😊
They show how your weight is supposed to be distributed. In front stance your body mass should be going forward. It's lunging. You are shooting your body weight forward to punch or to push. In Back stance, you are pulling. It's pretty much the same position you'd naturally use while pulling rope in tug of war. In a position with your feet together you are shooting your body mass upward. Maybe you have someone in a joint lock and you want to pressure that joint.
Also, that stance makes your body smaller. So, if you've thrown someone to the ground or have them in a lock, you might use that position to pressure their joints AND make it less likely for them top hit you if they're flailing around.
In a cat stance your weight is going backward ..like in a back stance and to the inside 45 degree, a little bit. So think covering from a hook with your right hand like a boxer would and maybe extending the opposite hand to push the puncher away.
Shaolin schools use it to trip opponents as well.
All stances are functional and meant to be paired with grappling maneuvers, like hikite. Hikite is the pulling hand. It;s the hand that's pulled to your waist while you punch.
Stances are flat footed because you can't pull whilst being on your toes.
Also, in my view, stances should only be held as long as needed. That, is they're flat footed when they need to be and on their toes when not. Like in wrestling. A LOT of karate techniques can be immediately applied as wrestling techniques if you understand wrestling.
@@davidbarnwell2254 thank you for informing ❤😊
@@bhoomibhamani4290 No problem, I forgot to add that horse stance is used when you want to send your body mass straight down or when you want to move laterally.
As in, for example, if someone is trying to stab you and you grab them with one arm whilst holding them and placing your forearm at their throat with the other.
Putting your weight on them makes it less likely that they can kick you and they can't move as fast.
Also, horse stance is great for wrestling.
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This is going to be my new way of greeting the KDW team! SMACK SMACK SMACK!
Having gotten a bit of this "meat-toughening" too over the years (always a fun time), I also find it a little bit weird how some folks will hit unexpected places when testing your techniques.
If I could make a guess as to why he does it the way he does when he tests your augmented punch, I'd go one of two ways:
1. Like he says: it may be less a matter of checking how strong the technique itself is, but a way of making sure you're tensing and relaxing the right muscles for the purposes of the exercise (which seemed to be something comparable to a breathing and tension exercise vs an exercise in combat execution). The comparison to how Goju-ryu instructors test their students when they train Sanchin really drove that home (for me, at least), even if this does still seem a little bit different from that.
2. Much more straightforwardly: could it also be a way of checking how capable you'd be of resisting a block from those angles? Since a block wouldn't generally come from the direct opposite angle at all, but would try to intercept you, stop you short, and "receive" your technique. It does seem weird to test that after the technique is finished, but there are, of course, some circumstances (especially in Naihanchi, where things that look like striking techniques or punches at first glance commonly get applied as grappling techniques) where you want to maintain a strong hold on a resistant opponent (moments where you'll necessarily want to resist their attempts to break your hold)
Absolutely you should experience all directions of movement because real fights are fluid
People use circular blocks rising blocks crossing blocks they wrestle they attempt arm bars
So learning how to become stable against 360 degrees of directions make you well rounded (excuse the pun)
Thanks for your idea!
Having performed the Matsubayashi-ryu version, I'm sure you can tell there are many similarities. In fact, the only differences are the steps and opening/closing posture.
We perform Naihanchi ashi fumi with every step (I know Shinzato Sensei did not, but that may be due to changes over time; the administration of our school regularly updates the details of kata to improve our teachings.) Here you see the heel comes up to the thigh before stomping. When stepping, we plant the ball of the foot, but I will try using the foot edge. This may be improvement, which I love to learn! Also, the toes should point slightly inward as shown. I don't think this was mentioned in the Matsubayashi-ryu videos.
We start and finish in Heisoku dachi, but use a covered fist posture for Naihanchi 1-3 instead of both hands open.
Wow thanks so much for sharing! I will take those into consideration when making a comparison video next week
Wow. I thought that conditioning during Kata is only done with Sanchin.
The slapping is interesting. I have never experienced any sparring or amateur fights where that second explanation could be applied. My experience has been that people will simply slip or block with their glove. And if they block, I just return my hand back immediately. I’m guessing the second reason is a response to the hard blocks in karate
Thanks for sharing your insight!!!!
I think it trains the body to be stable and hard at each position u're taking
Haha, he said he's not bullying.
yep
Slapped onto enlightenment
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I need to work on my horse stance. I can do it but it is not as deep as it use to be.