Shane Van Boening's Surprising Shot Choice Explained
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- Опубліковано 28 кві 2024
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Big shoutout to everyone I've met at the World Pool Masters in Hildesheim! 🎱 It was a pleasure talking to all of you! 😊
I think Pool players of all levels should always analyze the situation and figure out what is the shot that fits them, and the situation, with the best outcome possible, on both making the shot and getting the best position. One shall never play close-minded and not by just one principle. Great video as always 🔥
That video effect of the highlighted triangular area (of the best area to land in) at 6:03 and after is very well done, and a fantastic aid, thanks!
Seen you on tv at the masters! Had to rewind it to make sure it wasn’t a look a like
I hope you and Dr Dave, Venom and Tor Lowry and Aaron the pool coach would have some form of appearance playing round robin in an exhibition match at a match room event.
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I never ever follow all the positional play principles. 🥲
Great to see you sitting in the crowd at the World Pool Masters!
I love these high level analyses! Thanks as always!
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Very well explained, as usual, Shari. Yeah, I think a lot of it just comes down to how comfortable you're feeling and how well you're controlling the cue ball on the table. If Shane wasn't having any issues with his speed control, there isn't much reason to gamble on a potential side-pocket scratch by taking the "come into the shot" line. Instead, he simply chose to take the less risky option because he felt confident with his ability to control the cueball on that particular table.
If you happen to botch the former, you risk a scratch that hands the entire game to your opponent. If you botch the latter, you simply leave yourself a bit tougher on the out-shot. When you're comfortable and shooting well, there's no sense in jeopardizing the entire game in an effort to make a shot slightly easier.
Hi Andre, it was great meeting you in Hildesheim, hope you enjoyed the last day. Perhaps you can analyse a few more key shots from the final games - there were certainly a few surprising shots from Josh in the final, and Jayson in the semi that spring to mind. Also, in the final itself, at 12-12, Gorst played a brilliant positional shot to get on the two ball - I was wondering why he didn´t just screw back from the one so as to avoid the risk of snookering himself?
This is a very good video because a lot of the time this clinical positional shot is highly required but the execution knowledge is needed which most of us don’t have including myself didn’t have! I had an idea! Appreciate your tips! Definitely will supercharge our game
Another great video and explanation, thanks!
Brilliant logic as always. Hopefully some of it will stick in my head when it matters!
Great analysis and explanation!
nothing special, nothing difficult really, just preference. SVB just preferred to not walk to the other side of the table for the next shot. lol
That's exactly what it was. I've seen him do this so many times I have lost count. Efren did it a lot through his career as well.
When you get to a certain level the choice just becomes personal preference. I personally still like the natural route. Good explanation and video!
This is playing the percentages in this most textbook form, too. Shane basically playing to mid-table was just an easier shot to get away with than if he tried doing the tangent line shot.
He just didnt want to walk around the table for the other option.
This is a great video to show that the best shot is usually the natural one. Something I teach.
When you have good speed control, crossing lines is much more doable.
This is great! I have a really hard time recognizing when the margin for error is bigger on crossing the line versus trying to hit a perfect shot to come into the line.
nice topic and nicely explained. Never knew gabriels did a pool table, I only know them for 3C. Looks very close to a diamond, which is a good thing. Looks like it plays nice.
first time i see advanced stuff being discussed... it's really good for noobies :D
This is a brilliant way of seeing the shot. Don't try to get to close, but if you have to travel across your shot line instead of into the line, it's easier to do it from farther away so you have a larger window/margin for error.
It's a mental trade-off, in a sense - Shane played a shot where, he knew where the cue ball was going to contact on the rail, so he could focus more on the speed. If he had to focus more on the position of where the cue ball was going to contact the rail (and avoid the side pocket), he would have had less focus towards his speed.
If you are flat enough to play plain follow long rail long rail, its actually an alternative. Its still going into the line of the shot, but a small risk to scratch in the side.
shanes shot is the first that popped into my head
I believe it was Robert Byrne who called that window the "plain of view". He always said to come into the plain of view and avoid crossing it. But your right, it is sometimes better to ignore this rule.
Where the 9ball sat made the choice clear for me. Would play it like Shane did always. I play for easiest shape not best shape, since as long as I have a pretty good look I should be able to pot the ball and get shape for next shot.
Shane knew the roll of the table and didn't need much if any spin to get shape. I would of went with his shot. He's were he is for a reason. 😀
Excellent 🎉
I’ve noticed this happen VERY OFTEN at the top level. Yet when I talk about it, I’m called crazy.
The key is, both shots are so easy that speed can be focused on and these guys speeds are amazing.
If you have good speed control, you can play whatever shot you want.
Das würde ich mir öfter wünschen.
Hard to tell without standing over the shot, but based on the video angle, I'm probably attempting the exact same shot as SVB instead of trying to sneak behind the short side of the next OB. If there was enough angle on the shot I may have also just did a bottom/middle right stun to kick it over into the same general area. Personal preferences I guess.
Good stuff
How do you like that Gabriels table? Do the cushions bounce properly? (not like a pin-ball machine?)
It plays great. Just gotta hire someone to make it level, since we had to walk on the table while mounting the new table lights. I will introduce it with every other new gear in a future "What's in the case?" video.
Eliminating variables is always the right shot, using a natural angle roll will always improve the percentages
Are you going to do a new what's in the case soon? Since you have JFlowers cues. Also what type of JFlowers play cue do you use?
Yes I will, just waiting for some more items to arrive. It's going to be a full presentation on table, cues and setup. Check the video description to find what cues I am currently playing.
@@Sharivari alright good to know thanks Sharivari
Shane could've shot it either way, but here he didn't want to be facing Mario for the 9ball shot.
Intuitively I would have played Shane's shot too without thinking about the reason - nevertheless, great analysis of the shot - keep the good work going 👍
What cue you use?
Interesting. I'll have to set up that shot on my table and tinker with it. Looked like maybe he had enough angle on the 7 to shoot a stun draw shot for the same position he got on the 9. Maybe he shot the shot the way he did, avoiding any possibility of leaving himself with a shot off the rail at a funny angle.
Much easier to think of them as cones than lines. If you think of it as cones Shane's shot is DEFINITELY the correct choice. Hitting it to the other side is a much smaller cone.
Question: My pool balls have a 55.2 mm diameter. I have one problem, the IQ balls and the other training ones (cue balls) available have a 55.15 mm diameter. That is a 5mm difference. Does that little difference matter?
PLP tables were using high speed cloth and bouncy rails, natural path was a better choice indeed.
maybe this is stupid but can't another reason just be that he didn't want to move around the table? with his shot he can shoot the next ball from where he is standing.
I don't think he's that lazy... I mean, if you're that lazy, how come you entered the tournament? It would be too much work to sign up for it...
This seemed immediately obvious to me. A guy who practices ten hours a day is going to normally play the cue ball back to where he is standing if he has a choice.
Yes, the way SVB executed that shot is the better way for most. There is a very wide area where he can land the cue ball and have a fairly easy shot on the nine. Pocketing the seven and getting at least decent shape on the nine is also easier since there are only two balls on the table.
If it was earlier in the rack and the seven was the three and the nine was the four the shot might be executed differently because of other balls in the way. But in this case he has such a large area to get a good shot on the nine the way he played it makes total sense.
Sometimes crossing the line or getting close to crossing the line is just easier. This idea you should always try to come into the line of the shot is not good teaching. I see good players constantly hitting shots that cross the line or come close to it instead of going into the line of the shot. It depends on the player and the situation.
So, SVB is right-handed. I'm curious why not play the 6 with enough pace to get to the RIGHT side of the 7 ball pocket line. Then play off 2 rails into the line for the 9 with a longer landing zone.
You and I are left-handed, so it might be trickier for us, but that seems like a good option for an amateur, because speed control is less critical.
The risk of scraching in the side is there. If the 7 is higher close to the second diamond then it's the way to go. Also this is just too easy of an pattern for Shane to think about percentages. He just makes sure to leave good angle to get to the 9 with a rolling cue ball.
Also the position from the 6 to the 7 is more controllable the way he played it. Takes out the risk of landing in that akward angle just off straight on the right side.
While it doesn't apply to this specific shot, in the last few years, Shane has become known for playing unconventionally for the sole purpose of not having to walk around the table too much. I've seen him hit unnecessary full table draw shots just so he could hit the next shot immediately from where he was already standing. It's a "lazy man's" approach you can afford to have when you have the skill of a world class player. He seems to do this the most when he's either losing by a lot or if it's just a long, grinding match in the middle of a long, grinding tournament. The mood swings of SVB and how he plays are always interesting to watch.
I would add that the choice Shane made brings him to the center of the table. If it was a little short, or a little long, he still had options to pocket the nine. Coming into the path of nine at that short angle leaves the cue ball off to one side of the table & possibly against the rail if too short or to near the nine if too long, creating a much more difficult potting of the nine. But hey, remember, he is SHANE FREAKIN' VAN BOENING so I'd predict he'd get out either way. Just sayin' . . . 😁
As I understand his shot, his first thought was that he didn't want to take the risk of attempting the point in the center of the rail because it's too close to the pocket. On the other hand, a shot aimed at the area that crosses the shooting line is much less risky and, above all, SVB knows that he'll get the ball in 80% of the positions where the cue ball stops. Never forget that the "right" replacement depends above all on your ability to pocket balls in many positions. If Shane is comfortable with large cuts, he'll consider these shots as "perfectly playable", whereas a player struggling with these shots will avoid them like the plague, and therefore won't validate them as "perfectly playable". All players depend first and foremost on their ability to pocket balls in more or less complex positions: it's on the basis of one's ability to pocket a particular ball that one chooses how to reposition oneself.
His legs was tired..he didn’t wanna walk around the table lol
So why not shoot the ball high right and end up long rail between middle and far right for easy shot in the middle left? Natural stroke + allot of margin.
No need to overthink it.
Shane simply didn't want to walk over to the other side of the table.
it's all about personal preference..
Well people have their own sweet spot and different way of thinking. Doesn’t need always to be by the book. Just saying!
The truth is he didn't want to walk to the other side of the table 😂
Shane just wanted to shot the last ball where he was standing. Spare some energy
Takes scratching out of the equation
i would of played the same way as him.
Yeah, maybe. Also, he's SVB and can do whatever, he just did not want to walk on the other side of the table, nothing more :).
Wdym? It was not surprising shot. It was just preference from SVB using the follow shot 🤨
The reason he shot the seven like that is so he wouldn't have to walk around the table . Just stay where he is.
Tried to get my teammates to practice this video before their match, too busy JUST potting balls wherever they lay. No small wonder why they can't raise their individual average & team wise pretty much "STUCK" taking 3rd to 1/2 the field placement. THOSE OLD DOGS REFUSE TO LEARN NEW TRICKS. = sad
Maybe he was trying to avoid getting frozen on a rail?
This is also a good point that I had in my script, but just forgot to mention. Well spotted!
@Sharivari Yeah this reminds me of a match I saw a while back where a player missed a 9 ball on the hill because the cue ball was frozen on the rail, even though he had a good angle. Ended up losing and getting eliminated from the tournament. 🙁
SVB chose that shot because he didnt want to walk around to the other side of the table
i think he do that because he dont like to walk around the table
Bro, the first one is just top with minimal speed on that cloth. lolol it's not like genius shots or anything.
I think he did what he did because he’s SVB, just saying.
you are overthinking this shot WAY too much, its not really that hard or big a deal
I couldn't finish this. I doesn't take 10 minutes to explain a shot. You could do this video in 2 minutes. It's ONE shot you're explaining. That DOESN"T need 10 minutes.
Agree. I stopped watching his content, he takes way too long to explain shots. But every now and again, like this one they still pop up. I only clicked because I saw SVB
Well as a new player getting into pool, the deeper analysis like this is very helpful for me
@@frogginbullfish8777 You think it is but it's not. It's just superfluous information.
@@internetposta7389 I don't agree with you. Carry on
@@frogginbullfish8777 Says the guy who's new to the game? Sure. Sorry but I've done plenty of training professionally in areas that pay a lot more than pool. When we have new people, we don't overwhelm with detail. It doesn't work.
You can disagree but just know your opinion is emotional and stupid.
Why play into thf line of a small position window in the first place. Natural roll into a larger center of table position. Absolute no brainer if you ask me.