Excellent Ron, your process is perfect! Whatever cleaner you use or combination, as long as you do the 2nd step like you said and rinse it properly with at least distilled water (I use laboratory regrade purified water #2 with a dash of ethanol in it when I use my DIY vacuum/rinse RCM) and then for the 3rd step you give it a good vacuum, you are set! 👍 I made a 4 part video series on my channel (the only thing that is truly super informative and helpful 😊) And in it I go into great detail how to build your own DIY Ultrasonic RCM. It includes all the research that I did plus answers I got from very learned people like the fellow who wrote the extensive paper on 'The Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records' where he goes into extreme detail about what different compounds in the water do. And, what I've used on well over 1000 albums is a solution that also includes Tergitol, in conjunction with isopropyl alcohol and ILFOTOL. It does a fantastic job. Then I believe it is in part 2 of my series I show how you can easily use the same spindle of 6 records and rotate them in a pan of distilled water for a thorough rinse. It's always kind of funny when you mention alcohol or whatever and you get this collective gasp of shock from people. It almost doesn't matter WHAT you use on the vinyl to get it clean, as long as you do a diligent and thorough rinse afterward. People don't seem to remember that 1) You are only going to do this *ONCE* to a record. And 2) Whatever solution, no matter HOW strong you use on the vinyl, it is only going to be on it for a few minutes and then fully rinsed off 😊 When I use my DIY vacuum/rinse RCM when they need a bit more attention, I then also always make sure to do final rinse with the special lab water that I mention above. I also show that RCM and the various solutions that I use which I derived from all the information gathered from a lot of those experienced people.
Hi Ron, great video and so true. Does not matter what fluid that you put on a Record, you really must rinse it off with distilled war. i use three custom motorized VinylStyl units. First is distilled pre-wash,. Second uses TERGIKLEEN with the SpinClean fluid because the SC fluid has a flocculent agent in it (Flocculent encapsulates micro-particles and sends them to bottom of fluid), Third unit is for distilled water rinse. I then use DIY Ultrasonic and DIY vac unit for final clean/dry. Works perfectly. One warning with the SpinClean, I do recommend you clean the brushes regularly because it is possible for grit to get into the pads then possibly mark the records. The SpinClean brushes can also build up mould if not cleaned and dried regularly.
I change my record cleaning water solution and rinse water every 10 records and clean the brushes. My record cleaning solution is distilled water and TERGIKLEEN only. I don't see any difference with the dirt going to the bottom with or without the spin clean soap. TERGIKLEEN mixed with a gallon of distilled water is so cheap there's no point to cleaning more records per batch than that. Thank you so much for your experienced record cleaning suggestions.
I use a few drops of the Audio Intelligent premium one-step formula #6, spread it around the record for a couple of minutes then vacuum with my Record Doctor 6. It's labeled as a rinse-free solution but I still spin the record a few times in each direction in my Spin Clean, distilled water only. Vacuum again on the Record Doc and I'm golden. I have tried Tergikleen and it is an amazing product! 👍
Vinyl vac is awesome for the price. Under 100 dollars will be the biggest game changer. I looked at the RX Doctor but after trying the vinyl vac. I just can't see my self paying 400 or 500 for a vacum cleaner. I may get a humminguru in the fruture but the vinyl vac works so well.
Hey there Ron, thanks for the follow up. I've got a very similar process myself with the spin clean and record doctor vacuum. So far It seems to be working great!
I'm going to have to try that Tergikleen. Sounds like really good stuff! What I've been using is very unconventional and I haven't been able to talk any friends or family into trying it. When I tell them about it, they look at me like 'are you crazy?' So, sometimes for fun, I will buy some old, worn out, very dirty and grimy 7" 45 singles at my local Half Price Books for 50 cents each, great songs from the sixties (Glen Campbell -- Wichita Lineman, John Fred -- Judy in Disguise, that kind of thing, I've collected about 300 of them by now). These are just junk records, most don't even have sleeves. I don't buy any of the ones that have deep scratches or warps. Little hairline scratches are O.K. Anyway, one day I was in the grocery store looking for cotton swabs and I glanced at the shelves next to them and saw makeup remover pads that ladies use. On the package it says 'leaves no residue.' I thought, 'I wonder what would happen if I used one to clean one of my old singles?' So I bought a package and tried it on Bill Haley -- Rock Around The Clock, a very old pressing that has the words 'Fox Trot' on the label. After cleaning with the makeup remover pad, I rinsed it with distilled water and dried it with a microfiber cloth. That thing cleaned up to look almost brand new and it plays fantastic! I recently used a makeup removal pad on the Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 album Equinox and it made it look and sound brand new and glossy. Anyway, yeah, no one believes me, but it works. For my seriously nice records, I use Mobile Fidelity Record Wash, but just very lightly. I always use a fresh microfiber cloth and I wash those in the laundry.
Yeah those makeup pads probably have a lot of alcohol that's why they leave no residue cleaning records is a serious business if you don't have many records just using the record cleaner and wiping off the fluid is an okay. But a record collection is a large investment and cleaning them properly is always a wise choice.
@@RocknRonni Well said! I checked and there's no alcohol in the ingredients list, but the high value of your collection does require special attention, for sure.
Cringing that I sound like an "audiophile" here but, please don't advise collectors to use tap water on their vinyl(even as a last resort), as it contains minerals which deposit on the vinyls grooves, it's better to advise the use purified water(or distilled at least) I really appreciate your effort, it helped me learn exactly what I wanted to know about Tergikleen 🙏 You might be able to add a visual label to the video at the two points of the video where you mentioned tap water with something like "correction, only use purified/distilled water, not tap water) There's one company(I'm not mentioning brands) that even sells a rinse with quadruple distilled water. Apologies if I'm coming across like an audiophile, hijacking your comments section with a self indulgent rant, I know I would only be preaching to the choir, great vid apart from that 👍
Apologies, I didn't realize this was only step 1 of 2(only to be used prior to cleaning the vinyl in the spin clean machine), I must have missed that, my bad 🙏 I just learned yesterday, as a for cheap means of sourcing distilled water, here in Ireland, purified water is pretty expensive in chemists/pharmacies, at approx €17 for 2 litres, but they also sell distilled water(which is good enough for vinyl(no minerals in it)), at just €8.50 for 5 litres, perfect for an average sized ultrasonic vinyl record cleaner, which are generally 4 litres. Also, you can buy it from companies that produce it in mass vat / tanks for window cleaners and other companies who need it in mass, there's a crowd in Dublin, Ireland that sell it for 5 cent per litre! There could be a minimum purchase requirement or a flat rate service charge if you're turning up with(to them) a small 5 gallon drum(approx 23 litres), at those prices you could definitely afford to use it for pre-rinsing before the spin clean 👌
Everytime I use my spinclean, I have to play the record ( just play without listening) on a cheaper Sony deck two or three times before I can play it on my good deck! There's something I'm not doing right, but I do just as you guys do! Maybe I'll try this!
You probably need to rewatch the video I talked about the spin clean and when I use the soap I could hear the soap and I was getting lint on my needle when I stopped using the soap the record was clean but I didn't have to play it two or three times to clean it with the needle as you're describing. If you have any other questions about it just ask I've got a lot of experience with this spin clean. like I said rewatching this video may clear up some questions thanks for watching and the feedback much appreciated.
Hi Ron, thank you for your video. I have watched your other videos about the spin clean. I used to hand wash records using a homemade turntable that I did but it was one side at a time and I wanted to expedite the cleaning so I bought two good used spin cleans one for washing one for rinsing. I’ve had the record Dr. V before I bought the spin clean units. I actually wash with the spin clean solution, then I vacuum both sides. Then I rinse, and then I vacuum both sides again. I have read a lot online about how the solution that comes with a spin clean, allows the dirt and debris to drop to the bottom of the unit so I’ve been reluctant to use any other solutions. My question would be how many drops of Tergiclean do you use in your spin clean?
The TERGIKLEEN is the as you know if you watch the video that's the secret sauce it's 15 drops of TERGIKLEEN to a gallon of water you can make 30 gallons. And you know I've read the same thing about they've got some kind of special stuff in their soap that makes dirt go to the bottom I haven't noticed any difference using their soap or not using their soap at one time I just used water because they're soap was gumming up my records. Just for clarification make sure you watch the the latest video maybe you have, like you said I have a number of them up this one is only I think 7 minutes long thanks so much for watching and leaving me great feedback much appreciated.
Ron after the second rinse in the spin clean with just the distilled water do you hand dry the albums with a microfiber cloth before you vacuum them or you vacuum them while they are still wet. Thanks in advance for the info.
No I believe during the washing cycle we are agitating the dirt to wear it's become loosened up. it's still not completely out of the microscopic grooves even after rinsing. I do believe there's still some of the real fine particles and such still attached to the inner groove wall. only by vacuuming can we remove this debris. using a cloth only pushes it deeper in the groove. this is a great question thanks so much for asking my opinion ❤️
Yeah that sounds like the ultimate cleaning regimen right there bravo!! 🔥 This the point that I always wonder when folks use their ultrasonic and then they just let it air dry after that. I believe there's a lot of loosened up dirt still trapped in those grooves and record vacuuming will extract more dirt and make the record cleaner and then after vacuuming the record is dry and you can put it right away.
No I'm using the rinse spin clean with the brushes to help remove debris and such in the rinse cycle. I change my TERGIKLEEN cleaning water and my rinse water every 10 records or so and clean the pads. The cleaning solution is so inexpensive. And after 10 records even on previously cleaned records the water is dirty. The rinse water really doesn't get dirty but it's just distilled water so I always change it out.
Yes that's correct presently I buy new records primarily. I do buy some older records used records off eBay as well. and I have a lot of used records that I bought back in the day in my collection as well. But I'm very picky all my records are near mint and if I buy used records off eBay I try to get them in near mint condition All the Japanese pressings I own I bought them all used out of Japan and they're all near mint pristine beautiful records. The records I'm talking about cleaning is every record in my collection. But it is very important to clean new records it's amazing how much dirt comes off and how much better Even new records sound when cleaning with TERGIKLEEN thanks so much for asking intelligent questions much appreciated. 👍
@@RocknRonniThanks. I had been under the impression Tergikleen was a surfactant to add to a cleaner to help it penetrate into the grooves. This certainly simplifies things. Thank you for the quick reply.
@@photoslum I have two or three different videos where I talk about tergikleen and my process. I put 15 drops of tergikleen to a gallon of distilled water. As stated on the instructions. then as I describe in the video. Wash records with spin clean one with tergikleen then I rinsed with another spin clean. Just using distilled water then finally the vacuum with the record Dr 5 it takes about 3 to 4 minutes to clean a record. The results are superbly clean records and audibly better sounding records improved fidelity because of removing the film placed on the records during the manufacturing process.
@@manojkumarchakraborty6663 I have another video I did after this and I talk about what the problems are in record cleaning. if you want an easiest solution to clean your records to get the dust off just use a carbon fiber brush. Using any fluids on your records without vacuuming Will trap dirt deep in the grooves.
Yeah I put it on the timer it takes like 3 minutes to clean a record from the time it comes out of the sleeve till the time you put it back in and I put it in a nice anti-static inner sleeve so now I'll never have to clean the record again Cleaning records is not desirable but it's very rewarding when it's done properly. there's other record cleaners out there that cost thousands of dollars and in my opinion they're not doing any better job than with my humble system. Mike Esposito at the in groove record store charges $8 a record to ultrasonically clean your record before he ships him out. This whole record cleaning business gets very involved I'm so happy I have come across a elegant solution to the problem. And the difference the TERGIKLEEN makes in the wash cycle is well worth the added rinse cycle for the Sonic gains
Excellent Ron, your process is perfect! Whatever cleaner you use or combination, as long as you do the 2nd step like you said and rinse it properly with at least distilled water (I use laboratory regrade purified water #2 with a dash of ethanol in it when I use my DIY vacuum/rinse RCM) and then for the 3rd step you give it a good vacuum, you are set! 👍
I made a 4 part video series on my channel (the only thing that is truly super informative and helpful 😊) And in it I go into great detail how to build your own DIY Ultrasonic RCM. It includes all the research that I did plus answers I got from very learned people like the fellow who wrote the extensive paper on 'The Aqueous Cleaning of Vinyl Records' where he goes into extreme detail about what different compounds in the water do. And, what I've used on well over 1000 albums is a solution that also includes Tergitol, in conjunction with isopropyl alcohol and ILFOTOL. It does a fantastic job. Then I believe it is in part 2 of my series I show how you can easily use the same spindle of 6 records and rotate them in a pan of distilled water for a thorough rinse.
It's always kind of funny when you mention alcohol or whatever and you get this collective gasp of shock from people. It almost doesn't matter WHAT you use on the vinyl to get it clean, as long as you do a diligent and thorough rinse afterward. People don't seem to remember that 1) You are only going to do this *ONCE* to a record. And 2) Whatever solution, no matter HOW strong you use on the vinyl, it is only going to be on it for a few minutes and then fully rinsed off 😊
When I use my DIY vacuum/rinse RCM when they need a bit more attention, I then also always make sure to do final rinse with the special lab water that I mention above. I also show that RCM and the various solutions that I use which I derived from all the information gathered from a lot of those experienced people.
Hi Ron, great video and so true. Does not matter what fluid that you put on a Record, you really must rinse it off with distilled war. i use three custom motorized VinylStyl units. First is distilled pre-wash,. Second uses TERGIKLEEN with the SpinClean fluid because the SC fluid has a flocculent agent in it (Flocculent encapsulates micro-particles and sends them to bottom of fluid), Third unit is for distilled water rinse. I then use DIY Ultrasonic and DIY vac unit for final clean/dry. Works perfectly. One warning with the SpinClean, I do recommend you clean the brushes regularly because it is possible for grit to get into the pads then possibly mark the records. The SpinClean brushes can also build up mould if not cleaned and dried regularly.
I change my record cleaning water solution and rinse water every 10 records and clean the brushes.
My record cleaning solution is distilled water and TERGIKLEEN only.
I don't see any difference with the dirt going to the bottom with or without the spin clean soap. TERGIKLEEN mixed with a gallon of distilled water is so cheap there's no point to cleaning more records per batch than that. Thank you so much for your experienced record cleaning suggestions.
@@RocknRonni You're welcome.....
I use a few drops of the Audio Intelligent premium one-step formula #6, spread it around the record for a couple of minutes then vacuum with my Record Doctor 6. It's labeled as a rinse-free solution but I still spin the record a few times in each direction in my Spin Clean, distilled water only. Vacuum again on the Record Doc and I'm golden. I have tried Tergikleen and it is an amazing product! 👍
Vinyl vac is awesome for the price. Under 100 dollars will be the biggest game changer. I looked at the RX Doctor but after trying the vinyl vac. I just can't see my self paying 400 or 500 for a vacum cleaner. I may get a humminguru in the fruture but the vinyl vac works so well.
Hey there Ron, thanks for the follow up. I've got a very similar process myself with the spin clean and record doctor vacuum. So far It seems to be working great!
Thanks Tim appreciate your commentary on this subject much appreciated.
thanks for subscribing and liking the video..
best £40 i've spent...many thanks Ron!!
I'm going to have to try that Tergikleen. Sounds like really good stuff! What I've been using is very unconventional and I haven't been able to talk any friends or family into trying it. When I tell them about it, they look at me like 'are you crazy?' So, sometimes for fun, I will buy some old, worn out, very dirty and grimy 7" 45 singles at my local Half Price Books for 50 cents each, great songs from the sixties (Glen Campbell -- Wichita Lineman, John Fred -- Judy in Disguise, that kind of thing, I've collected about 300 of them by now). These are just junk records, most don't even have sleeves. I don't buy any of the ones that have deep scratches or warps. Little hairline scratches are O.K. Anyway, one day I was in the grocery store looking for cotton swabs and I glanced at the shelves next to them and saw makeup remover pads that ladies use. On the package it says 'leaves no residue.' I thought, 'I wonder what would happen if I used one to clean one of my old singles?' So I bought a package and tried it on Bill Haley -- Rock Around The Clock, a very old pressing that has the words 'Fox Trot' on the label. After cleaning with the makeup remover pad, I rinsed it with distilled water and dried it with a microfiber cloth. That thing cleaned up to look almost brand new and it plays fantastic! I recently used a makeup removal pad on the Sergio Mendes and Brasil '66 album Equinox and it made it look and sound brand new and glossy. Anyway, yeah, no one believes me, but it works. For my seriously nice records, I use Mobile Fidelity Record Wash, but just very lightly. I always use a fresh microfiber cloth and I wash those in the laundry.
Yeah those makeup pads probably have a lot of alcohol that's why they leave no residue cleaning records is a serious business if you don't have many records just using the record cleaner and wiping off the fluid is an okay.
But a record collection is a large investment and cleaning them properly is always a wise choice.
@@RocknRonni Well said! I checked and there's no alcohol in the ingredients list, but the high value of your collection does require special attention, for sure.
great ron! you finally have the sequence right! RISING IS EXTREMELY IMPORTEND!!
i meant RINSING OFCOURSE!!
@@frankvanhelvert6231 well at my age rising is very important as well thanks Frank 😊
hahaha!! yes indeed!!@@RocknRonni
I use 1% Alconox then a vinyl vac. Then a 10% isopropyl distilled watered for a rinse the vinyl vac. I hear the same with Alconox........ but safer.
I use a spin clean and a vacuum too
Ive used it alot and its great…
My dad really needs this video hahaha, thanks for info 😄
Thanks for watching Hope your dad enjoys the video thanks for subscribing and liking the video much appreciated
Cringing that I sound like an "audiophile" here but, please don't advise collectors to use tap water on their vinyl(even as a last resort), as it contains minerals which deposit on the vinyls grooves, it's better to advise the use purified water(or distilled at least)
I really appreciate your effort, it helped me learn exactly what I wanted to know about Tergikleen 🙏
You might be able to add a visual label to the video at the two points of the video where you mentioned tap water with something like "correction, only use purified/distilled water, not tap water)
There's one company(I'm not mentioning brands) that even sells a rinse with quadruple distilled water.
Apologies if I'm coming across like an audiophile, hijacking your comments section with a self indulgent rant, I know I would only be preaching to the choir, great vid apart from that 👍
Apologies, I didn't realize this was only step 1 of 2(only to be used prior to cleaning the vinyl in the spin clean machine), I must have missed that, my bad 🙏
I just learned yesterday, as a for cheap means of sourcing distilled water, here in Ireland, purified water is pretty expensive in chemists/pharmacies, at approx €17 for 2 litres, but they also sell distilled water(which is good enough for vinyl(no minerals in it)), at just €8.50 for 5 litres, perfect for an average sized ultrasonic vinyl record cleaner, which are generally 4 litres.
Also, you can buy it from companies that produce it in mass vat / tanks for window cleaners and other companies who need it in mass, there's a crowd in Dublin, Ireland that sell it for 5 cent per litre! There could be a minimum purchase requirement or a flat rate service charge if you're turning up with(to them) a small 5 gallon drum(approx 23 litres), at those prices you could definitely afford to use it for pre-rinsing before the spin clean 👌
Everytime I use my spinclean, I have to play the record ( just play without listening) on a cheaper Sony deck two or three times before I can play it on my good deck! There's something I'm not doing right, but I do just as you guys do! Maybe I'll try this!
You probably need to rewatch the video I talked about the spin clean and when I use the soap I could hear the soap and I was getting lint on my needle when I stopped using the soap the record was clean but I didn't have to play it two or three times to clean it with the needle as you're describing. If you have any other questions about it just ask I've got a lot of experience with this spin clean.
like I said rewatching this video may clear up some questions thanks for watching and the feedback much appreciated.
@@RocknRonni thanks rockin Ron!
Hi Ron, thank you for your video. I have watched your other videos about the spin clean. I used to hand wash records using a homemade turntable that I did but it was one side at a time and I wanted to expedite the cleaning so I bought two good used spin cleans one for washing one for rinsing. I’ve had the record Dr. V before I bought the spin clean units. I actually wash with the spin clean solution, then I vacuum both sides. Then I rinse, and then I vacuum both sides again. I have read a lot online about how the solution that comes with a spin clean, allows the dirt and debris to drop to the bottom of the unit so I’ve been reluctant to use any other solutions. My question would be how many drops of Tergiclean do you use in your spin clean?
The TERGIKLEEN is the as you know if you watch the video that's the secret sauce it's 15 drops of TERGIKLEEN to a gallon of water you can make 30 gallons. And you know I've read the same thing about they've got some kind of special stuff in their soap that makes dirt go to the bottom I haven't noticed any difference using their soap or not using their soap at one time I just used water because they're soap was gumming up my records.
Just for clarification make sure you watch the the latest video maybe you have, like you said I have a number of them up this one is only I think 7 minutes long thanks so much for watching and leaving me great feedback much appreciated.
Ron after the second rinse in the spin clean with just the distilled water do you hand dry the albums with a microfiber cloth before you vacuum them or you vacuum them while they are still wet. Thanks in advance for the info.
No I believe during the washing cycle we are agitating the dirt to wear it's become loosened up.
it's still not completely out of the microscopic grooves even after rinsing.
I do believe there's still some of the real fine particles and such still attached to the inner groove wall.
only by vacuuming can we remove this debris.
using a cloth only pushes it deeper in the groove.
this is a great question thanks so much for asking my opinion ❤️
@@RocknRonni Thanks for the answer Ron cause there are dozens of recommendations on UA-cam; your response is valued.
I use Tergikleen in my ultrasonic cleaner, then rinse it off and dry with my VPI rcm.
Yeah that sounds like the ultimate cleaning regimen right there bravo!! 🔥
This the point that I always wonder when folks use their ultrasonic and then they just let it air dry after that.
I believe there's a lot of loosened up dirt still trapped in those grooves and record vacuuming will extract more dirt and make the record cleaner and then after vacuuming the record is dry and you can put it right away.
@RonBeaudryrockinroni I should have stated that I only use distilled water to rinse. Never, ever tap water...especially the crap from our tap 🤣
@@rcpsammy7186 yeah it goes without saying we're using distilled water of course thanks so much my friend 👍
Hi Ron are you taking the pads out of the rinse Spinclean & just spinning in the distilled water?
No I'm using the rinse spin clean with the brushes to help remove debris and such in the rinse cycle.
I change my TERGIKLEEN cleaning water and my rinse water every 10 records or so and clean the pads.
The cleaning solution is so inexpensive. And after 10 records even on previously cleaned records the water is dirty. The rinse water really doesn't get dirty but it's just distilled water so I always change it out.
I’m curious about this, I watched some of your videos and you seem to buy a lot of new records or reissues. Are these the records your cleaning?
Yes that's correct presently I buy new records primarily.
I do buy some older records used records off eBay as well. and I have a lot of used records that I bought back in the day in my collection as well.
But I'm very picky all my records are near mint and if I buy used records off eBay I try to get them in near mint condition All the Japanese pressings I own I bought them all used out of Japan and they're all near mint pristine beautiful records. The records I'm talking about cleaning is every record in my collection. But it is very important to clean new records it's amazing how much dirt comes off and how much better Even new records sound when cleaning with TERGIKLEEN thanks so much for asking intelligent questions much appreciated. 👍
Sorry if i missed it, what cleaning solution or product are you adding the Tergikleen to?
Distilled water
@@RocknRonniThanks. I had been under the impression Tergikleen was a surfactant to add to a cleaner to help it penetrate into the grooves. This certainly simplifies things. Thank you for the quick reply.
@@photoslum I have two or three different videos where I talk about tergikleen
and my process. I put 15 drops of tergikleen to a gallon of distilled water. As stated on the instructions.
then as I describe in the video. Wash records with spin clean one with tergikleen then I rinsed with another spin clean. Just using distilled water then finally the vacuum with the record Dr 5 it takes about 3 to 4 minutes to clean a record. The results are superbly clean records and audibly better sounding records improved fidelity because of removing the film placed on the records during the manufacturing process.
@@RocknRonniThank you VERY much for the detailed reply. I was already planning to buy 2 Spin Clean cleans, one for wash, one for rinse!
Iwant practical record cleaning
@@manojkumarchakraborty6663 I have another video I did after this and I talk about what the problems are in record cleaning.
if you want an easiest solution to clean your records to get the dust off just use a carbon fiber brush. Using any fluids on your records without vacuuming Will trap dirt deep in the grooves.
First
Thanks Mr fizzle Carson looks good at batting practice
Wow, 3 cleaning machines is not desirable
Yeah I put it on the timer it takes like 3 minutes to clean a record from the time it comes out of the sleeve till the time you put it back in and I put it in a nice anti-static inner sleeve so now I'll never have to clean the record again
Cleaning records is not desirable but it's very rewarding when it's done properly.
there's other record cleaners out there that cost thousands of dollars and in my opinion they're not doing any better job than with my humble system. Mike Esposito at the in groove record store charges $8 a record to ultrasonically clean your record before he ships him out. This whole record cleaning business gets very involved I'm so happy I have come across a elegant solution to the problem.
And the difference the TERGIKLEEN makes in the wash cycle is well worth the added rinse cycle for the Sonic gains
Stop cleanin your records. Just enjoy them. Dont analise everything all time, its makeing you ill, no record is perfect it dosnt exit.
When I clean my records with TERGIKLEEN it makes me very happy when I listen to them. your mileage may vary