Islam or Khabib?
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Chael Sonnen talks Islam Makhachev, Dustin Poirier and Khabib Nurmagomedov on this episode of Beyond the Fight
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Bro said “Arm Tsarukyan” 😂 14:24
Islam is better rounded but Khabib is on another level when it comes to aggression, dominance and pressure.
Exactly, Khabib and Fedor are 2 of the only fighters I have never seen mentally quit in a fight.
100%. Khabib is a madman, his mind is on another level
facts. Islam admits to not even winning rounds during training sessions with Khabib as his lifetime training partner… think about that, lol.
Khabib dominated whoever was put in front of him. No doubt about that but most of those guys were not top guys. His best win was probably Dustin who is totally legit but unless I am misremembering he never held the real belt. He beat Gaethje, but Gaethje is a half notch below the top of the top. And he beat Conor when Conor hadn't fought in 2 years, which isn't Khabib's fault of course, but it still wasn't Conor at his best. It would have been nice to have gotten to see how good Khabib actually was.
@@John-78 Gaethje is and was absolutely the top of the top.
He beat the living shite out of Tony Ferguson and ended his career before he fought Khabib.
And about Conor he just fought one of the best boxers in history so his boxing and cardio was at elite levels when he fought Khabib which wasn't enough as we all saw.
We need chael and islam to chat, imagine chael as islams ghost writer
Hard to pick against Khabib when we've never seen him face adversity, let alone lose.
We have seen him lose. He was gifted one.
islam has fought better fighters
@@blyndblitzeven though he’s a 145’er I think Volk is better than anybody Khabib ever fought
But khabib dominated, Charles did not
😂KHABIB also early Retirement to hang out with his MoMA. And make sure left before he lost
Your a joke @UltimateCombatSportsNetwork
Charles didn't fight tomato cans for fifteen years lol
@@mr.green3r892 💯👌 Just compare resumes
@@mr.green3r892 But when Charles did fight tin cans he lost to them too 🤣🤣
Neither of them dropped khabib, neither of them gave him a hard time, he mauled them both. Olivera got dropped, Oliver was given a hard time with both. Khabib would’ve ragdolled oliviera 8:55
Khabib retired after 3 defenses.
I 100% agree with this
Charles took a lot of damage, got dropped, cheated against Dustin. While Khabib dominated them and took their win streaks
Islam has looked and been beatable. The eagle never gave the slightest glimmer of hope for a loss.
Conor had him on the ropes
@@chiquita683your delusional re watch the fight
@@chiquita683 Connor arguably barely won the third round and that's it. Khabib had him on skates the whole time.
😂
even though he was never going to lose, ironically poirier was the one who came closest to beating khabib
Anyone else notice that whenever Chael says Aram he actually says Tsarukyan perfectly afterwards.
It’s only when he says the surname alone he says Sukaryan.
Dude is hilarious
Makachev is better I think but khabib just wasn't ever going to lose. Last day before retirement khabib is mythically strong
Islam might be more talented but if they fighy khabib little bros makhachev we all know this, khabib never had that puppy eyes tired look unlike islam during round 3 and onwards
Somehow the answer gonna be negativity towards Charles Oliveira 😂
Yeah no shit. He always ducks fights
@@enriquemendoza2700Charles fought everyone in the lightweight top 5 lmao “dUcKs fiGhTs”
Go watch that Dustin fight and tell me he didn’t cheat to win. He sunk his hand so far into DPs glove that Dustin was forced to give up position. He then exhausted Dustin on the ground for an early back take in the next rnd. Dude is a dirty dog
Conor gave Charles a little bit of attention on twitter during Covid when he was champ and Charles still thinks it’s a thing
Because he is overrated af
Have Islam call in on GoodGuy/BadGuy!
This, my brother, if they do not do, will be number one bullshit!
Islam can handle the good guy but not the bad guy.
@@HazeH21islam is defeated and disputed
@@mikeh024defeated? Once years ago. Disputed? Only in the minds of haters. Dude is levels above other LW's... making beating guys as good as Oliveira, look easy.
@@neorock6135 chael kills islam round 1
“How fast can you run a two minute mile?”
- Chael P. Sonnen
Beat me to it.
@@ajfrere345was about to drop this banger too
Islam is a more complete fighter but Khabib would take the win.
Chael just made me interested in the Islam/Dustin fight. It’s not about if Islam can beat Dustin. It’s about how fast he beats Dustin compared to Khabib.
How dominantly. Fast is not as important. That been said, Khabib has fought a prime Dustin.
@@truthseeker96Dustin is in prime age rn, 35, and also just knocked out BSD who was really promising. You could argue Dustin is better right now.
Let’s be honest Khabib retired years ago and we still don’t have a contender that would’ve challenged him.
Max asked for Gaethje, he tweeted “how about one for the fans?”
Islam has The striking advantage only, while khabib has the wrestling, the grappling, the aggressiveness, the gas tank and the most important thing, the mental part because although khabib was very good technical, a lot of people don't seem to realise his mentality is what made him unstoppable (also khabib is undefeated but islam has been tko'd before, so there's that also from a mental perspective)
Islam is more well rounded
@@benjacques6664 yes the overall better fighter technically is islam no doubt, also when i say khabib is better at the other things, it's not that islam is a mediocre.. no islam is superior compared to other lightweights.. it's just that khabib is that good
Khabib is the great inspiration for all wrestlers for their career in sport and for their real life..
How fast can you run a two-minute mile? Excellent question.
Thank you, I was starting to think I was the only one who heard that 😂
Islam does not like hurting opponents unless he’s provoked, where khabib can be abit of savage in the ring!
Khabib has better mma wrestling and ground and pound while holding his opponent down. Maybe Islam is a little better and quicker striker on the feet, and maybe a little better transitional submissions
It's all just a matter of preferences really.
A well rounded fighter or a dominant one
A finisher vs someone who will punch you all rounds
I just love how uncle Chael just casually dropped "Sandhagen" as a verb right at the end. I literally lol'd 😂
I don't know who you're kidding Chael, I'd love to see Khabib and Makhachev fight. I'd take Khabib though.
I think Makhachev might take Khabib.Hes better on the feet and able to negate the wrestling.
Very wrong.. javier said islam is the only one (in aka) who takes rounds against khabib from time to time.. that's how far islam is from negating khabib's wrestling@@MrMurphc13
@AzelVonAzrael Very right you mean);
The stopwatch idea doesn’t really interest me, since fighting, fights and fighters are so incredibly dynamic; therefore the stopwatch comparisons have no predictive validity.
There is no question who is better. I have never had to wonder this, because there is no comparison. If islam wins like 6 or 7 in a row against the best of the best from here, we can compare them. The eagle never lost, and he fought so many more really tough fights. I think the both of them know exactly who is better.
Khabib didn't even have 7 fights in UFC. His record is fake
@@chiquita683 he had 13
@@chiquita683 Khabib has 7 top 10 ranked fighters and total 13 off fights, 29 mma fights. Don't be talking about things you know nothing about.
One defended his belt against featherweights the othe defended against lightweights, you cant compare as Khabib is on another level
Khabib is the only one of the two to beat a lightweight in a title fight and that was him beating Gaethje. Conor, Dustin, Charles, and volk are all featherweights
@@scottc2076by your logic, Dan hooker is a heavy weight 🤣
@@scottc2076 Idiotic take. Charles is a big LW at 190lbs per Diego Lima, he was drained at 145. Islam by his own and DC's admission, and Volk by his own admission both walk around at around 183lbs. Islam fought two bona fide warriors in his own class. Volk happens to be able to make FW but that doesn't make him inherently smaller than Islam, and even if he was it isn't a significant enough difference to mean anything. Khabib is the goat LW, but don't discredit Islam
Did volk fight Islam at 145 ?
The win over Charles is unquestionably better than any khabib win. Khabibs best win was either one of two fighters who never became undisputed or conor coming back from fighting floyd. Take your pick but im taking the first volk win over those as well.
But where does Edwin Sarkaryan fit into all this?
Did you splice in a chunk from a previous vid from today?
Repeatedly, one part missing the full story
Max Holloway DID call out Justin, via Twitter.. Justin then said he didn’t want to fight him because he liked him too much.
I fear not the man who has practiced 10,000 kicks once, but I fear the man who has practiced one kick 10,000 times
- Bruce Lee
You know what doesn't feel right. This automated video cut service you guys are using. I am assuming it works with you submitting a script and it takes out all of the pauses and ums, this makes the audio pretty good, it flows nice. The video part of the service is really weird though, the sporadic jump cuts throw your eyes off, it looks like the screen glitched. Now Chael's auditory mishaps are a part of his brand at this point, so even losing out on the smoothness this service provides is not a big deal I think.
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Islam is slightly more polished. Khabib brings certain intangibles that Islam does not in Chin, and relentless pressure and pace.
Chael vs Ariel 2. I would definitely watch that again😂
Khabib won slower than Charles, but Charles got rocked in both fights. Dustin came close to beating Khabib (possibly the closest anyone has ever come)... Still I believe Khabib destroys Charles and without losing a round or a drop of blood.
Max did call for the Gaethje fight, Poirier has also called for that fight when he said they were going to do it for a third time. 🤔
Big difference between Charles and Khabib. Khabib never looked like he was losing for a second against Justin and Dustin. Charles was almost stopped multiple times
Their respective personality translates into their respective fighting style. Khabib seemed always been an intense, assertive, dominant character.. his dad once said he can be too stubborn sometimes. In light of competition I believe his mentality will never allow him to lose or yield (even to Islam) and he has the skillset to do it. So if him & Islam fought, he has the better chance to win.
You're friends w/ Ali their manager, right Unc Chael. At the least, Khabib and Islam needs to be interviewed together about their journey as team mates and as life long friends. You and DC should pitch that idea to Ali & Khabib.
Option C: Dustin by KO
The Charles win is arguably more impressive than any fight Khabib ever had.
".... we DE-NUT the ability .... " 🤣🤣🤣
If anybody knows how to takedown Khabib that guy is certainly Islam nobody else!
Max did call for that fight with Gaethje though. He literally hit up Gaethje to set up the fight
I really hate when people comparing Khabib and Islam.. Embraced both skills and qualities.. Both have different run and legacy..I appreciate both eras 👊👑👑
Did anyone else catch Rosenstrook? 🤣 Caught me off guard haha.. great argument though!
Chael can you do an advert on your hair dye
This is the best take you've ever made. Didn't miss anything.
Khabibs fight IQ and dominance in every fight is unmatched to this day 🔥
Khabib is the absolute GOAT nobody was even close to beating him
You know nothing about mma. He’s a beast but not the goat
@@Tepes1448 undefeated never taken any peds never ducked a fight name someone better
@@Tepes1448 Don't forget your shift
@@BigDom61 how many years did he stay as champion ? Name someone better ? GSP, Jose Aldo, Anderson Silva, Jon Jones
@@Tepes1448 Jones and Silva great fighters but got caught taking peds in my opinion and the opinion of many others they can’t be considered Goats if they need to take drugs to win
What's the over/under on how many guillies Dustin attempts? 😂
Khabib...❤..If he agrees to a fight (and he does always),he WINS
Islam better standup striking.
Khabib has an iron chin, better ground game (ground and pound, controlling opponents movements & technique), better at takedowns (iron chin - doesn't have to fear being KO'd), overall more dominant and applying more pressure inside the cage.
What’s Chael’s issue with Sandahagen? Mentions the guy all the time, just curious
It's going to be hard for anyone to unseat Khabib as the lightweight GOAT
Islam has more skills but Khabib only needed one, and nobody could stop him.
Khabib looked unstoppable and a force that keeps on pressing again and again
Can’t wait for Chanel’s video on Ryan Garcia popping for Ostarine
Islam and Khabib had common opponents - Bagov. He finished Islam but lost to Khabib
Where did you get the information from?
@@cengizhuseyin1388 watched their fights
@@FroggySam where can you watch the fights?
Absolutely without any doubt Islam is the most complete fighter in the ufc history. But khabib always the legend. His has one of the most high things from Islam and any other ufc fighter. and that is khabib's strong and undefeated body and his strong Chin. imagine in his MMA carrier no one knocks down him. and we saw in his ufc carrier he eats lots of biggest fighters knocked outs punches and killer kicks. But no one is down to the eagle. 🦅 In my opinion khabib is absolutely the no.1 goat 🐐 in MMA. and Islam also will must be the future hall of Fame. No doubt.
That guy should have had the brothers fight other brothers instead of each other. Shamrocks vs Hughes
Breaking character at 14:22!
This is not my Chael!
Charles loses nearly every round of his fights.
Khabib barely ever lost a round.
Now tell me who was more dominant
Islam has a good stand-up game and great wresting & judo techniques but Khabib has a better JJ and a higher fight IQ. I truly don't see Khabib losing, he always finds a way to win.
IT CAN BE PUT THIS WAY KHABIBS STYLE IS MORE OF GRAPPLING U CAN SEE HOLES IN HIS STRIKING WHERE AS ISLAM IS GOOD EVERYWHERE..
I thought Islam already answered when he said they sparred alot and khabib won 99% of the time.
I mentioned this couple of years ago. Islam's striking is considerably better than Khabibs and this would be Islam's only opportunity to defeat him. Khabibs endurance determination and desire to win would ultimately prevail. Khamzat doesn't come close to either of them and he knows it. Both Islam and Khabib have endurance superior to Khamzat and his early energy and pace wouldn't have any impact on either of them and would actually work in their favour as in the first couple of rounds they are just warming up. Khamzat on the other hand would have a half Empty gas tank. A perfect match up for both Islam and Khabib
The issue with your logic, with comparing the times Charles took so beat Dustin and Gaethje with Khabib to determine how Islam fares against him is that this is a wildly varying and unpredictable sport. All sorts of factors come into play when analyzing the result of a fight. You could ask yourself, could Khabib have finished the pair quicker? Could he have stood with them for less time?
It’s still a worth while thing to mention since the times do sort of matter.
Why the second half is from an old video? Tf?
Chael Sonnen is amazing. God I admire his intellect of the industry.
Im at a point in my life where I dont care what he says, I just need an Uncle babbling about as I work. So I put on a video by uncle Chael
Every time they ask Javier Javier says Khabib is the best fighter he’s ever trained even now. Duscussion done
Chael just picks a topic that no one can answer
Chael forgetting khabib never got hurt, Charles almost lost those fights too, if he didn't get the KO
Chael saying Sir karian for Tsarukyan made me laugh out loud
BellAl has a podcast?
chael accidentally pronounced tsarukyan correctly🤣
Uncle Chael is the type of guy who can give a 5 hours talk about any topic without prepration lol
Oliveira was hurt bad in both of those fights, Khabib dominated everyone that he fought. There is no comparison between Charles and Khabib.
Islam Makhachev "we had over thousand of rounds, this guy very tough, nobody can beat this guy in the cage, not even me"
Mendez "this team is very competitive, Khabib is ultra competitive, during his training active days he never lost a round in training/sparring, now that he is retired he does let his guys get a round here and there over him, as a sort of motivation for them"
The thumb lift glasses manoeuvre is what made Chael undefeated and undisputed.
We've seen Islam finished so there's still some mystique with Khabib
Who is Sir Carry On?
Max literally asked for the Justin fight.............
Gleason Tibau should have honestly beat Khabib so everyone saying Khabib was never threatened with a loss is wrong go back and watch that fight
Justin and Dustin both dropped Charlie Olives And were scared to go to the ground.
Poirier is my favorite fighter in the ufc but Islam is a bad matchup for him. Poirier struggles against elite wrestlers. The Dagestani guys actually follow through with the game plan to go to the ground and stay there. Poirier can knock out Islam but if he jumps guillotine it’s over lol. Islam won’t let him up.
I feel as though khabib retired to allow the way for Islam. Yeah his dad was a factor but something tells me khabib thought Islam was able or already surpassed him.
Bro the editing... Can that stop? It's really under you
You can't. Don't be dumb. Vs a teammate....
Charl or Henderson or Couture Xtreme?!! You can't. Similar style
The question we all need answered.....how fast can you run a 2 minute mile?
unlike islam, khabib never tried to finish his opponents in the first two rounds, except Justin Gaethje. which he did very easily. he loved to break his opponents mentally before submitting them. That's why he was more savage. no one ever dominated the game like khabib
Holloway def called out Justin on Twitter
Since when has Uncle Chael used jump cuts? Has he always used them? I thought he just pressed record and talked, at least I thought he used to do that? Bummer!! Or maybe he’s never done that? Hmmm.
I thought this before but after UFC 300 it solidified my thought that Volk was a better challenge at 155 than anyone Khabib ever fought. Volk beat Max three times ( last time wasn’t even close) and then we saw max beat Justin’s ass for five rounds at 155 lol Ghatjie was arguably Khabib toughest most well rounded opponent ( he actually has Take down defense unlike Connor) not to mention Oliveira who finished Dustin and Justin and islam finished him. Both fights are already higher level wins than anyone Khabib fought.. Islam can reach a higher ceiling than Khabib.
Khabib is always dominant, islam is beatable, khabib fighting strikes fear into everyone especially that if he took them down its game over
The Tyson vs Paul fight has been officially sanctioned, but here we are talking about whether Islam is as good as Khabib? Lol silly Uncle Chael
Makhachev is the better MMArtist and because of that, he’s more dangerous. Khabib is the better fighter, tougher and more dominant. Both are supremely disciplined and are a different breed of humans.
"Aram Zakarian". Got it.
Dustin is going to be what 5 years older. He's no longer in his prime. So this can't even be compared to the Khabib fight. If you listen to Coach or Islam they even say Khabib is better. If Islam was better Khabib would say that. Egos are out the window @ AKA