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I don't think most people care. I grew up with the oilers and I am glad to see them acknowledged. The Texans aren't the oilers but the Titans were. If the city of Houston or Cal McNair wants to make a Cleveland browns style deal with the Titans they should.
The Titans also did this last season. I was there and still am unsure if I can claim to have watched the Titans. I am slowly trying to visit every NFL team (as a Brit based in DC). Currently on 20ish.
@@christenn32fans filled the stadium (Astrodome) after an AFC championship title game loss to Pittsburgh (on the road). It was a welcome home rally. After a loss! How often have you seen that? You can't tell me that there that there wasn't support for the Oilers here in Houston because I have seen it. Fans here loved the Oilers. The problem was with the owner and the city. Most fans didn't like Bud Adams and he retaliated and moved our team. There's actually a little more to it than that but I don't have all day here
@@raynerlarue8004is right. His daughter has carried on Bud's bitterness towards Houston and does it out of spite. The Titans are fine but the owners are a bunch of bozos.
@raynerlarue8004 nah. The fans and the city abandoned the team. The stadium was absolute junk and they were bleeding money because the fans/city wouldn't support them. I'm not complaining, though. It's been fun watching them here I Nashville.
@@christenn32 yeah, I don't blame you guys for being excited about getting our team. You guys got them at a time when they were rebuilding under coach Fischer, with great players like Eddie George, etc. It was a major bummer to seeing them go. The dome being about 31 years old at the time was iconic in it's day, but that's another story. The bottom line is that the owner did what he wanted and moved our team. Tennessee fans only hear what they want to hear from the Adam's family's point of view. But they weren't here and didn't experience what we fans witnessed here. There's even some story about some kind of supposed vote here and the fans voted them out. That's total BS. I was at the dome for the final Pittsburgh game, our heated divisional foe and believe me, fan support was overwhelming for that send off. Just ask Bill Cowher! I'm sure that he remembers.
You forgot the Colorado Avalanche wearing the Quebec Nordiques jerseys. Considering the Avs won the Cup the year after moving, that reminder must REALLY stick in the craw of Quebec fans.
@Ruprect44 but they did respect Quebec in a way but not the same way as the Titans Besides the Hartford & Quebec citizens were actually thankful for the Hurricanes and Avalanche for these jerseys they brought back
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena Not all of them. I know many Whalers fans that hate Carolina using the Whalers logos and colors. They feel the Whalers owner at the time (Peter Karmanos) had no intention of keeping the Whalers in Hartford when he bought them. He just bought them to move to a bigger TV market.
I was gonna mention them, it's even worse than most teams that have moved! On top of what you mentioned, an American team adorning a jersey covered in fleurs-de-lis and the "Nordiques" logo is very literally cultural appropriation.
@@jefff.5442 I know that many people from Connecticut have moved to North Carolina. It would appear to me that people formerly from Connecticut living in North Carolina would welcome seeing Whalers jerseys at Hurricanes games.
On the bright side, Seattle forever keeps the Sonics name and colors and franchise records. That’s why it is incorrect for people to say the Thunder have won a championship. No. They have never won a championship. The Sonics won a championship.
Kinda/sorta. NBA official records still combine the two franchises in terms of statistics and results, meaning they HAVE won a championship, at least according to the NBA. The Thunder don't really publicly claim any of it though, and they did agree to allow Seattle to keep the name and colors, and they even left the physical championship trophy behind. If Seattle does get an expansion team, then the Thunder will officially cede the records and history to Seattle's new team.
Same with the Cleveland Browns, who were brought back as a continuation of the old Browns and the Ravens are it's own franchise, and the Phoenix/Arizona Coyotes who could get their name back whenever they get a new team. I wish it was like this with every team that moves.
Technically, Seattle kept the name and colors. The franchise records, banners, trophies, etc. were and still are owned by the Thunder. All of the paraphernalia has been kept at MOHAI in Seattle for the past 16+ years in anticipation of a Sonics return. Without getting too far in the weeds, there was an agreement to freely share the team history if a team started playing in a renovated KeyArena within 5 years of the team leaving, which would've been 2013. The Thunder franchise gets to claim ownership of the '79 championship, just as the Kings get to claim ownership of the 1951 Rochester Royals championship. The Thunder have even made a duplicate championship trophy. We'll see if the history gets separately given to Seattle -- like the arrangement with the Hornets' and Pelicans' histories when Charlotte got the name back -- or if it remains shared, as was in the arena lease settlement agreement when the team left . The one thing I'll credit the Thunder with is that they rarely, if ever, reference the Sonics' past. They consider the team started in 2008, and they've never attempted to wear throwback Sonics unis. They also didn't claim the championship when the NBA started putting special championship signifiers on jerseys. They do get a cut of retro merch sales, but some portion of those sales is shared amongst all teams. A new agreement for the team history would have to be negotiated when the Sonics return. I'm guessing it will likely be freely and simply granted.
@@JPS47 Yep, the Ravens were retroactively classified as an "expansion" team that started in 1996. I believe the New Orleans Pelicans are now considered a 2002 NBA expansion team. This was part of their agreement to give the Hornets name back to Charlotte in 2013. The Hornets count their 1988-2002 history, their 2004-2012 Bobcats history, and their modern history. New Orleans kept the 2002-2012 New Orleans Hornets and New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets histories, in addition to everything from 2013 on.
Don't tell me moving a team doesn't cut people deep, I remember the last time I visited New York I rode the subway out to old Yankee Stadium wearing my Dodgers jacket and a kindly old man on the D train complimented me on the jacket and then told me about his childhood in Brooklyn and how much he loved the Dodgers, and his memories of going to see Pee Wee, Jackie, Campy, and the Duke with his dad and his face suddenly turned angry as he went from telling me about the joy of the Dodgers winning the World Series for the first time and then the agony of them leaving for California. I remember the chill running down my spine when his face turning red, pointed his finger at me and told me sternly "They broke my heart, I'll never forgive them"
As a New Yorker (and a Yankee fan),this is what I point to when people ask why the Mets are more popular than the Yankees in New York,which actually shocks people who aren't New Yorkers. Supposedly,the Mets' blue and orange color scheme,besides being the official colors of New York City,is a nod to both the Dodgers and Giants. Even their current stadium,CitiField,is modeled on Brooklyn's Ebbets Field
That happened to me in a Dennys in San Diego of all places. Having Breakfast one morning and an old guy saw me wearing my Dodger hat and shirt. He proceeded to tell me more or less the same story about living in Brooklyn, and all the greats like PeeWee, the Duke, Jackie, etc. He spoke almost wistfully about going to Ebbets Field, and even he still cheered for the Dodgers and moved to California after he retired,... he never forgave Walter O'Malley.
Fun Fact: The Titans/Adams still owe the city of Houston money for the last upgrades that were done to the Astrodome before they moved. I think it's great that every time the Titans have worn the Oilers colors that the Texans have smoked them.
I want to see Fart Modell's dead carcass on a barbecue spit. But actually, I think it'd be better to have the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titans both *forced* to wear Oilers attire in both games of each hear's home-and-home series: with one wearing the home gear and the white helmets, the other wearing the road gear and either the blue or silver helmets the team wore before adopting the white 'classic' look in the mid 1970's.
As a New Orleans resident I completely understand that Jazz name belongs to Utah after 45 years, two iconic players and an iconic coach but I was also glad that the NBA didn't retire "Hornets" and allowed Charlotte to reassume the name after we became the Pelicans.
@@daveunknown01 Voodos (cool name!) would have been a bad choice, bible belt loonies would have gone nuts over that choice. Why do you think the Tampa Bay Rays dropped their original name, the Devil Rays?
I’d say the Titans/Oilers one is worse than Carolina/Hartford, Expos, etc. Not only did they use the uniforms, but they did so AGAINST the new Houston team. You could at least make a somewhat argument for the other ones; Tennessee was straight-up choosing to try and hurt their old fans in Houston.
No one old enough to remember Oilers is a fan of the Adam's family. This Uni move felt petty. In 02....we miss the name. But thewholecity was ready to move on from Adam's ownership. Fresh start...
I always thought when the city of Houston was seeking a new name, they should have gone with the "Drillers." Keep the same color and logo (it would have had to have some hint of change, legally I assume) and just simply have oil spewing out of the derrick on the helmet.
I don’t mind it. I’m from Vancouver and Memphis wore the old Grizzly jerseys the other night. It was nice to see the colors again. I’d rather see old throwback colors instead of the silly “city” jerseys used in the NBA and MLB.
It's not the NFL. It's the Adams family that's the bad guys here. And the color scheme is considered part of the intellectual property, for better or worse. Change the shade of red or replace white with off-white, and there's no case.
@@mactheknife7049 - Except Bud Adams Carl-Uma-Nancy-Tom daughters are manipulating the other idiot owners and Goodell to do this! Same thing with Robert Irsay getting the rest of the morons to block Baltimore from using the Colts name when they acquired a CFL team (now the current incarnation of the Montreal Alouettes) and later, the Browns. Thus why Baltimore had the Stallions, and now has the Ravens instead. If anybody Diane-Ed-Sal-Edith-Ron-Valerie-Eli-Sam the Brian Thompson "treatment" at this point, it's Bud's daughters and Jim Irsay!
That's a total dick move by the NFL. If anything,it's the Texans who should be allowed those colors. Correct me if I'm wrong,but don't the Texans have a powder blue alternate as a 4th uniform?
I grew up a Houston Oilers fan. I hated it when Bud Adams moved the team and the name could no longer be used. It killed me to find out the new team coming would be called the Texans. But at least Kansas City owner Lamar Hunt didn't block the name.
The Titans do this to Troll Houston and the Texans… There was a beef a few years back because JJ Watt and DeAndre Hopkins wanted the league to step in and allow the Texans to wear the Oilers Throwbacks but the Titans told them to Kick Rocks…
He's already doing that. I wanted to buy one of the "Oakland" on field jackets the last couple games. I asked the guys working there if any of the Oakland gear would be on sale. They said no, they plan on selling it in Sac. I would bet they throw a "throwback" sticker on all of it
That's another thing. They should re-brand. They should not call themselves the Las Vegas A's. I said the same thing about the Raiders. Pirates in the desert? It makes no sense. At least in Oakland and LA,they were near a body of water. As for the A's,there are plenty of names they could use
Growing up in Baltimore (age 56) I still wish the Colts would have rebranded before they left. Colts had to do with the Maryland horse racing industry. They could have rebranded as the 500’s and had a race car on the helmet. Very glad there was never a “Baltimore Browns”.
I think with Indianapolis,they decided to keep the Colts name because Indiana has a connection to the horse/farming industry. Baltimore Browns would have been an interesting name,and even made more sense than Cleveland,as the current incarnation of the Orioles was originally the St Louis Browns. Cleveland could've been the Panthers,but something happened where that name was voted down
Do I agree all these morons in Htown wearing this shit it’s like your ex wife cheated on you and sends pic of her cheating and you still love the bitch
I wish the Texans were the Oilers instead though. tagliabue 👎 Though, I wouldn't want original Oiler records to go back to Houston. Having it done with the new Browns feels like they "stole" history to me. Anyway, as a kid I was an Oiler fan, but I don't really have a team now. Changing to the Titans I couldn't go with them anymore. And Houston Texans just didn't feel right to me either (I live in VA, not Houston, so I don't necessarily have a city loyalty).
The Kansas City Chiefs do the same on throwback day. They wear the "Dallas Texans'" version of their uniform. Us Dallas Cowboys' fans never wanna see "Dallas" associated with another team.
Trust me Brodie, the younger Houston generation DOES care. I am one of them. The Houston flag and police cars were those colors long before the Oilers arrived. We want our colors and name back. Just look at what the UH cougars wore this year.
The uniforms being rolled out specifically when they were playing Houston was a big time F you. But we made them pay. I think they legally challenge any Houston organization from wearing uniforms in “Houston blue”. Absolutely hateful.
The Titans sending a cease-and-desist letter to UH was a low blow. I am not even originally from Houston, and yet I completely side with my new hometown on this issue.
@@stevekassel3301 Oh I’m a Ravens fan as well. Just wish we could have kept the Colts name and colors back in the day. I think it’s better to leave the name and colors behind. Greedy owners want to move then move. Ravens 28 Bills 24.
I know this isn't related,but please delete the Browns franchise...their constant tanking and mismanagement of quarterbacks is not cute anymore. You guys get number 1 pick after number 1 pick, meanwhile,other teams (like my Giants) NEED a generational talent to become relevant again,but now,we can't have one because... surprise! Cleveland tanks again. And then,teams and cities like Cleveland have the nerve to say that "nEw yOrK aNd LoS aNGeLeS aRe rUiNiNg sPoRts"
I can’t stand ALL ALTERNATE JERSEYS. Teams should wear one road uniform, and one home uniform THAT’S IT…Can you imagine Babe Ruth wearing a red yankee hat, Bart Starr wearing a blue packer jersey, or Bill Russell wearing a gold Celtics jersey
They almost did that The Stars nearly wore a North Stars inspired jersey but its the letter D with the star behind the letter that the D ends at point the stars, instead of the iconic N, but it was rejected but it was made
I think its long overdue for the Titans to sell the Oilers name and colors back to Houston similar to what the New Orleans Pelicans did with the Charlotte Bobcats for the Hornets name, image, likeness. Also, the NFL tried to for the University of Houston to not wear the shade of blue and forced the Houston Roughnecks to alter their logo.
@@jameslindsley3267 I appreciate your explanation, but they should be called the Nashville Titans instead if that is what they are going for. Tennessee is the tristar state or the volunteer state in my mind.
As bad as it was for the Seattle SuperSonics to move to OKC, atleast they were nice enough to leave the name in Seattle I case they ever got another team.
Unfortunately the NBA still uses the Sonics team history stats (player, game, seasonal) with overall Thunder team history stats (player, game, seasonal). That gets me livid.
Yes, that's the reasonable thing to do. Our city is getting a team at the expense of your city no longer having one, so the least we could do is leave the old name and colors and history with you and come up with new stuff for ourselves. That's what happened with the Browns-Ravens situation.
The only one I kind of don't mind is the Carolina Hurricanes having Whalers night. With the Titans what burned me up was when they told the University of Houston last year, they couldn't use the uniforms in Oilers colors. Always liked the Titans up to that point.
The Titans wearing the old Oilers uniforms against the Texans was a clear "Look at what you can't have" message. If they'd done that against anyone else, no one would bat an eye but that was a definite middle finger to the Texans and Houston football fans.
Not just Houston football fans, but all of Houston. Last year they tried to stop UH from wearing powder blue uniforms to honor our history. I'm not even a UH fan, and I respect the hell out of that university for sticking by their decision and telling the NFL to shove it.
As a former North Stars fan, when the team left...well, that sucked. Of course, that was quite some time ago, and having the Minnesota Wild has helped. But if the Dallas Stars came out for a game wearing uniforms that said "Minnesota North Stars", I'd be pissed.
I like that the Wild have worn their logo in green and gold on North Stars jerseys as their retro/thtowback uniform. The Wild should adopt that as their permanent colors and uniform going forward.
CT native and former Whalers fan here. The Hurricanes wearing Whalers jerseys is beyond stupid. It's like the franchise completely forgot that they moved to NC in the first place simply out of greed.
I hope one day Hartford can come back. I think most hockey fans would love to see that. Sadly I don't think Bettman or his successor will allow another franchise in the New England area. Same with the Nordiques. They're not gonna let another franchise cut into Montreal's money.
I would've liked it if the Coyotes wore throwback Jets jerseys before we got our Jets back, I don't see what the big deal is, it's just honoring and showing appreciation to what the franchise used to be
Ironically, as a Virginian, although I was never a hockey fan (we didn't have any access to hockey in rural VA in the 80s, beyond the sports page and ESPN), but I always thought Hartford Whalers was a cool name as a kid.
As an Oilers fan that grew up watching the Luv Ya Blue era and the saga of Bud Adams moving the team, it stings to see the Texans play the Titans in our uniforms. But i take comfort in the fact that the Texans are 2-0 againt the Tennessee "Oilers".
The Adams family is a disgrace. If they're going to wear that beautiful shade of Columbia blue with that awesome logo, they should be forced to change their name to the Tennessee SOILERS.
@MisterMasterShake or be like the Milwaukee Brewers and have it where both they and the Seattle Mariners can wear and use the Seattle Pilots logo (though since Nike took over throw back uniforms have gone away which is dumb)
Was an Oilers fan for years, became a Titans fan up until they played in the Oiler jerseys. Then they threatened to sue the U. of Houston because they have some Luv Ya Blu uniforms. The Adams family is a horrible ownership. Now a Texans fan.
The Titans wear the old Houston uniforms, Do the Texans wear the old Dallas Texans uniforms, or is that reserved for the Dallas Cowboys? What would the Houston Texans wear? Imagine if the Titans and Texans both wore the old Oilers uniforms. One would have to wear the white jerseys and the other the blue.
@@arthurmcdermott3312 The old Dallas Texans unis are reserved for the Chiefs, who were the Dallas Texans from 1960-62. The Cowboys wear the unis from their inaugural season of 1960, with the white helmets, while the Jets have worn the unis of the old New York Titans. Perhaps the Texans could wear the Silver Oiler Helmets when the Titans playin Houston.
It is bittersweet. Yet, as a lifelong Expos fan, seeing the uniform on an MLB field was exhilarating. I agreed with the then Nationals announcer and former Expos player F. P. Santangelo - the retro uni tribute was an overall positive.
@mrwhirly0358 Thanks, bruh. It was hard losing my team after thirty years. I'm afraid the Montréal ship has sailed, though. No government support. Expos Toujours!
@@thomasjoseph3488the pain of Canadians losing teams is we know it isn't always greed, sometimes it is survival for the team. The Expos didn't have a Canadian owner who could support them, there wasn't a decent ball park and the Canadian Dollar sucked. No one north of the border wanted to see the Expos go; hell we didn't want to see the Grizzlies leave Vancouver either. BUT in Vancouver, it was greed and to see the Memphis Grizzlies wearing Vancouver jerseys is a slap in the face. In the case of seeing Expos jerseys a decade or so later it is just different ...
Sorry, for us in DC taking your team. Our original Baseball team the Washington Senators we lost twice in 1960 and again in 1971. My Dad grew up as a hardcore Senators’ Fan. He became really happy when the Expos became the Nationals. I honestly like that the Nationals still acknowledge their Expos’ past and that of the old Washington Senators, however I would like the Nationals to wear more often throwback Senators’ 1960s era jerseys. By the way MLB wants to do a special game out in France 🇫🇷 and I was like wouldn’t make more sense to have a team back in Montreal that can more easily appeal to Francophone audiences, like bring an MLB team back in Montreal. I even came up with a name if the team couldn’t use the name Expos, that would be the Montreal Marquis.
@patfinch9907 Kind words appreciated. Expos fans don't blame DC fans for getting the team. It's just hard to lose something that was a huge part of one's life. It's why I feel for Oakland fans now and even Arizona fans of the NHL Coyotes. Cheers.
The Lakers keeping the name from when they were in Minneapolis is just as odd as the Jazz. My parents both graduated from Trinity University in San Antonio and my Dad worked there while he attended so when the Oilers had their training camps there I got to meet some of the players. Still have the powder blue hat they signed. Not only will the Titans not sell the rights to the Oilers they threatened to take legal action when the University of Houston wore the powder blue uniforms.
@@michaelleroy9281 I guess inly being the Detroit Gems for a year wasn't much a reason to keep that name but winning the first NBA championship would be a good reason for them to remain the Lakers. If they had moved to Utah they could have been the Salt Lakers.
If a team moves (something that shouldn’t happen either) the name and logo and everything needs to stay with the former city and the team moving should not be allowed to use it.
The Dodgers got their name from trolley dodgers, fans in Brooklyn who dodged street cars to get to the game. LA is notorious for being car-centric (although they have made strides and have an underrated bus system). The same with Lakers, they were the Minneapolis Lakers, after Minnesota being the “land of 10,000 lakes”. All the championships won by the Dodgers and Lakers made those names associated with LA. Not to mention, NY got the Mets and Minnesota got the T-wolves.
As a UK viewer, the whole issue of franchising is alien in top flight sport. It has happened only once in football (soccer) in recent years. 20 years on and the new entity remain despised by all other fans, not accepted as a real club. The former club reformed and now play at the same level as the new club. Games between them are tense enough as it is. The new club wearing some sort of tribute jersey would probably cause a riot!
The throwback uniforms always look so vibrant on TV. Modern NFL logos and jerseys look like they were designed by someone who forgot their anti-depressants.
Unfortunately, that's how sports are in today's sports society. Nobody has respect for anything. Nobody cares about anybody. It's all about the $$$. Nothing else. It's the cold hard reality. Respect has been lost since the start of this dreaded decade.
@@stevenbauer4799 - Sorry, but I find that stupid and confusing. Plus, the only notable thing they'd be getting back is a couple of Avco Cups. Is that really worth it for a couple of AVCO CUPS? Utah has been a dumpster fire since becoming an NHL team in 1979-80. Focus on winning the Stanley Cup instead, and you'll soon forget about those Avco Cups.
Why would uhc honor winnipeg jet history when uhc is a brand new franchise as defined by nhl with no ties whatsoever to jets 1.0 or az. That makes no fkn sense and is about as idiotic as that other fool who posted nonsense on post and knows nothing about jets history or that uhc has no connection to az./jets 1.0 as well.
That's a slap in the face from the Adam's family. The right move was leaving the Oilers name in Houston or giving it back like Charlotte getting the Hornets name back. Thankfully Seattle keeps the Sonics name when they return and the Browns name and colors stayed in Cleveland when Modell ripped the team away.
Yeah I live in H TOWN and was a big Oilers fan and it is insulting for them to wear them also the Houston Cougars were told to cease and desist on wearing uniforms paying homage to our past by wearing very similar oilers jerseys
And athletes that played for the old team name and never for the current team name should not sign memorabilia of the new team. Joe Thiesmann should not sign Washington Commanders helmets, Warren Moon should not sign a Titans helmet, and Pat Verbeek should not sign Hurricanes jerseys .
Those Oilers uniforms were the best looking in the league. I wish the Titans would simply bring it back and replace the Oiler emblem on the helmet with the current Titans emblem.
Another example is the Colorado Avalanche wearing the Quebec Nordiqes jerseys. Especially painful since the year the franchise moved to Colorado they won a Stanley Cup
Hey I’ll just say our guy Brodie is passionate about this issue because who knows if the A’s do something similar. If they land in Vegas, and meanwhile a new team is formed in Oakland, having to start from scratch. I’d be pissed.
I just find it funny that the Titans org. followed getting over $1 billion in public funding for a new stadium with two garbage seasons followed by this stunt. I doubt I'd find it funny if I lived in Tennessee.
As a Titans fan, this Oilers stuff soured my fandom. I followed the stadium stuff and, of course, was worried they’d move. They finally got the final yes vote and instead of any kind of posts thanking Nashville or Tennessee, they immediately announced that they were bringing their Oilers throwbacks back. The Titans app even has an option to change the icon to “Luv Ya Blue” but not “Titan Up”
@@williamchoate6723Were you making reference to the 1968 hit song “Tighten Up” which was composed by Archie Bell in Houston, TX? “Hi everybody, I'm Archie Bell of the Drells, of Houston, Texas…..” 😂
They should have kept the name logo team everything the uniforms name and logo was🔥 I mean the team leaves but you start another franchise in the same city years later
as someone who lives in Kansas City but is too young to really remember us having a team in the NBA but the Kings name went with the team to Sacramento. By the way interesting note they were the Cincinnati Royals and changed their name to Kings because there was already the MLB Royals in town when they moved.
And they were originally the Syracuse Royals. Remember when the Luckenbill brothers bought the Kings ? They promised the Kings were not going anywhere. Meanwhile, they were building the Arco Arena in Suckramento, their hometown! And we know what happened next....
@@WC3POchannel10A actually the Rochester Royals. You had Syracuse Nationals who became the Philadelphia 76ers. The kings won there only NBA title in Rochester.
It's not hard to figure out bruh. Smh. The Tennessee Titans are the Houston Oilers of old. They moved, changed the name, but kept the jerseys for two seasons IN Tennessee. Its the same, as if the Bills moved to Toronto, and called themselves the " Toronto Elks ", but still used the old Bills colors and logo from time to time. This video was a waste of time.
The one that agitates me the most is the Avalanche wearing the Nordiques logo. Knowing full well as long as Bettman is commissioner Quebec City will not get a team
Bettman will put teams in Houston, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Atlanta (third fucking time), Birmingham, New Orleans, Little Rock, Austin, Memphis, Albuquerque, Oklahoma City (or Tulsa) and somewhere in South Carolina before he ever puts one in Quebec City.
I think I’d feel the same way if the Jets wore Thrashers throwbacks. I grew up going to games at least once a season and now I can’t bring myself to root for another team. If owners think the majority of fans will follow their team post move I think they’re being delusional.
@@intentionaloffside8934I mean the Jets (2011) are wearing Jets (1980’s) jerseys which are technically not part of their history. The original jets belong to the coyotes
When Atlanta Spirit sold the Thrashers to True North, ASG retained the Thrashers' IP. The group disbanded in 2015 after selling the Hawks and operating rights for State Farm Arena to a group led by Tony Ressler, and I assume ASG's claims on the Thrashers' trademarks lapsed, and the NHL reclaimed the trademark, allowing the ECHL's Atlanta Gladiators to use Thrashers' throwback jerseys since 2022.
Why did Paul Tagliabue let Cleveland keep the Browns name and uniforms, then a year or so later when the Oilers moved he declared the team name and the coolest uniforms ever would be “retired” instead of letting Houston keep them?
Being an ex San Diego Chargers fan it's even worse, they kept the name and logo, and other than some new variations of the uniforms that we begged for years when they were here, same uniforms too.
The kicker is that the franchise started out as the Los Angeles Chargers as one of the original AFL franchises. Still, having friends from San Diego and having like the San Diego Chargers for their helmets and uniforms, and John Hadl to Lance Alworth, I feel for San Diego.
But doesn’t it feel good to be an ex Chargers fan? Don’t you relish the thought of Dean Spanos squirming as the team underperforms each year? Such an easy team to root against, given their scumbag owner.
YES!!!!! For years i wanted them to wear the powder blues full time and when the move they finally wear them. That pissed me off even more. Screw the entire NFL.
@ They were never an NFL franchise in LA until Spanos moved them. They spent one year as a fledgling AFL expansion team before moving to San Diego, becoming ingrained in the community, and finally entering the NFL years later.
I grew up in Connecticut and get so upset every time Carolina wears those sweaters. Now living in the Bay, I feel we will have the A's pop on an Oakland jersey at some point soon.
My wife and daughters are huge fans of the Minnesota Wild. We have never understood the penchant they have for green and yellow throwback jerseys for exactly this reason. The Northstars packed up and moved to Dallas. Why honor their memory if not for $$$? Also, seems ridiculous to me when Vegas or Seattle have throwback jerseys. They don’t have a long enough history to throw back to.
The Kraken don't have a heritage of their own to draw upon, but Seattle does. The Millionaires were the first US team to win the Stanley Cup in 1917, were tied in the 1919 final in a rematch with the Canadiens that was halted by the "Spanish Flu" pandemic and lost the 1920 Cup to the original Ottawa Senators in a full 5 game series. It wouldn't be until 1993 that a west coast team (the LA Kings) would again make the Stanley Cup final.
That Carolina Hurricanes/Hartford Whalers picture is a nightmare for people with red-green colour blindness. That just adds another layer of face slap to a certain percentage of fans. We still haven't seen the ultimate insult yet: the Ravens wearing the old Browns jerseys and playing the Browns in Baltimore. I wouldn't put it past them to do this.
The ravens couldn’t do it because when Art Modell moved the Browns he left all the history and team logos/and colors in Cleveland to be used by the expansion team, Bud Adams did the exact opposite when he moved the oilers out of pettiness
That will never happen for the reason listed above. You also won't see the Ravens wear the old Baltimore Colt uniforms because the Indianapolis Colts, along with many Baltimore fans, would strongly object to such a "tribute".
@@rkelly1999 : they're still sports team owners and nothing is ever etched in stone that way. "Compensate" the Cleveland owner in some way and nothing's off the table. This is the same guy who signed Deshaun Watson to a fully guaranteed contract.
There is no appetite in Baltimore for them to troll Cleveland, at least not in that way. Having Cleveland keep the Brown's legacy ended up being the best for both cities under the circumstances.
As a resident of Raleigh, I agree with the sentiment here... if a name moves with the team that's one thing, but if the relocation includes a rebrand? That cuts the tie from at least an identification perspective - it should be outlawed. But Brodie, there's a small error in this particular video: Paul Tagliabue "retired" the Oilers name for no other reason than he didn't have a choice - Bud Adams kept, and to this day the family still controls, the IP behind the "Houston Oilers" brand; and they didn't relinquish it. In fact their annual use of the uniform bolsters their U.S. trademark rights claim to the brand. Tagliabue said it as a face-saving gesture of sorts; and it wasn't the first one he'd done... for about two weeks a few years earlier, Ken Behring was going to move the Seattle Seahawks to Los Angeles. While the move would be stopped when Paul Allen stepped in to buy the team, in that case the NFL *did* control the Seahawks IP rights well enough that Tagliabue could (and did) "retire" the Seahawks name and make it stick. Had Behring moved the team it wouldn't have been the L.A. Seahawks. Another, completely unrelated but ironic factoid on this subject... had the buyers that moved the St. Louis baseball team there not chosen to do so, and had not the city of Cleveland sued the NFL and Fart Modell to compel them to do adopt a new brand for their respective franchises, today sportscasters would have the fun of referring to the "Baltimore Browns" in the same way their predecessors did the "St. Louis Cardinals" from 1960 to 1988 - by specifying reference to the "football" Browns or the "baseball" Browns...
Ah, the old St. Louis Browns that were runned out of town (and into Baltimore's arms) courtesy of the Cardinals, and St. Louis being too small to support two teams LONG TERM. And yes, Bud Adams and his pathetic family are still holding the Oilers name hostage. Just another reason the Titans can enjoy the 1909-2015 Chicago Cubs curse for a long time!
Titans are jerks for it but the owner never sold off or transferred the name and history. I will say the way the NFL tries to go after anyone who uses the same color scheme are out of pocket
The Texans had to consult with the Titans on their alternate uniforms and choose a blue that is a different shade than the Oilers. What they created is not what they really wanted which was a play on this uniform.
Don't forget about the Chargers, fans in San Diego begged for the team to switch back to powder blue uniforms full time. Then when they move to LA they make the switch. Total slap in the face
Yeah thats some BS San Diego got took for there team and I totally feel for them. To me the Chargers will always be from S.D. and I'm from Los Angeles. Even though they started here in L.A. Teams moving cities now should leave the old nickname behind in the city there leaving and start fresh with a new ID.
I only follow hockey, so had no idea that this was happening in NFL, MLB, NBA too, but the one that gets me is the Minnesota North Stars rebranded as "Stars" just before moving to Dallas. Then when Minnesota gets an expansion team only a couple years later, they are cock-blocked from using North Stars.
I’m an old guy and I have absolutely no problem with a team wearing throwbacks from a previous city. I had season tickets for the Tennessee Oilers in 1998, so those uniforms mean something to me too. However, it was a total dick move wearing them against the Texans.
I personally feel these uniforms should be tied to their cities, not their franchises. These leagues are franchised too, so the leagues should be able to regulate this. The Oilers uniforms and the Columbia blue mean so much to Houston. It's wildly disrespectful for the Titans to wear these, against Houston, no less. It's a nostalgia moneygrab. Also, the NFL threatened to sue the Houston Cougars over use of similar uniforms to ones the Oilers wore.
As a lifelong oilers fan I couldn't disagree more. People in Houston want everyone to forget that they abandoned the oilers and jumped on the cowboys' bandwagon en masse in the '90s. Look back at how empty the Astrodome was. Then as the cowboys' dynasty was ending the Houston fans realized they had Steve McNair, Eddie George and a damn good football team. THEN they got mad for the team leaving. No sympathy for them.
The reason why Astrodome is so empty not only the stadium is outdated, the team sucked. And who's fault is it? The owner that puts out bad product on the field
That's kinda the point. The oilers were going up as the cowboys were going down. All the people in Houston were wearing Aikman and Emmit jerseys. Bandwagon culture.
I thought it was tacky at first when the Milwaukee Brewers or Milwaukee Braves uniforms… They’ve done another three occasions. I believe in two if not all of them… They were playing against the Atlanta Braves as a tribute to the city of Milwaukee and it seemed like both teams were Cooperative… kind of…. With that level of partnership, I didn’t seem all that tacky. The Titans wearing the Oiler helmets and uniforms really is on a completely different level. I’m glad you called it out.
If done correctly, throwbacks to a former city can be done on friendly terms. Jim Irsay and the Adams daughters are spiteful Carl-Uma-Nancy-Tom-Sal that Dave-Ed-Steve-Edith-Ron-Valerie-Eli-Sam the Brian Thompson effect!
The Oilers name and colors belong to the Tennessee Titans. I do agree that the Titan's shouldn't wear that jersey when playing against the Texans. Other teams for sure. The Oilers uniforms look a whole lot better than their current uniforms. I like the old Titans uniforms more.
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I don't think most people care. I grew up with the oilers and I am glad to see them acknowledged. The Texans aren't the oilers but the Titans were. If the city of Houston or Cal McNair wants to make a Cleveland browns style deal with the Titans they should.
The Titans also did this last season. I was there and still am unsure if I can claim to have watched the Titans.
I am slowly trying to visit every NFL team (as a Brit based in DC). Currently on 20ish.
oh shut up. I think there's nothing wrong with this, what's your problem?
@@cflisthebest He explains "what his problem" is in the video.
@@archstanton6102he explains why he doesn't agree with it but what is his problem?
They should’ve never left Houston. Oilers was a perfect name for the area and uniforms were awesome. Titans are lame.
Fans should've shown up to the games.
@@christenn32fans filled the stadium (Astrodome) after an AFC championship title game loss to Pittsburgh (on the road). It was a welcome home rally. After a loss! How often have you seen that?
You can't tell me that there that there wasn't support for the Oilers here in Houston because I have seen it. Fans here loved the Oilers.
The problem was with the owner and the city. Most fans didn't like Bud Adams and he retaliated and moved our team. There's actually a little more to it than that but I don't have all day here
@@raynerlarue8004is right. His daughter has carried on Bud's bitterness towards Houston and does it out of spite. The Titans are fine but the owners are a bunch of bozos.
@raynerlarue8004 nah. The fans and the city abandoned the team. The stadium was absolute junk and they were bleeding money because the fans/city wouldn't support them. I'm not complaining, though. It's been fun watching them here I Nashville.
@@christenn32 yeah, I don't blame you guys for being excited about getting our team. You guys got them at a time when they were rebuilding under coach Fischer, with great players like Eddie George, etc. It was a major bummer to seeing them go.
The dome being about 31 years old at the time was iconic in it's day, but that's another story. The bottom line is that the owner did what he wanted and moved our team. Tennessee fans only hear what they want to hear from the Adam's family's point of view. But they weren't here and didn't experience what we fans witnessed here.
There's even some story about some kind of supposed vote here and the fans voted them out. That's total BS.
I was at the dome for the final Pittsburgh game, our heated divisional foe and believe me, fan support was overwhelming for that send off. Just ask Bill Cowher! I'm sure that he remembers.
You forgot the Colorado Avalanche wearing the Quebec Nordiques jerseys. Considering the Avs won the Cup the year after moving, that reminder must REALLY stick in the craw of Quebec fans.
@Ruprect44 but they did respect Quebec in a way but not the same way as the Titans
Besides the Hartford & Quebec citizens were actually thankful for the Hurricanes and Avalanche for these jerseys they brought back
@@Gabriel_Rojas_Arena Not all of them. I know many Whalers fans that hate Carolina using the Whalers logos and colors. They feel the Whalers owner at the time (Peter Karmanos) had no intention of keeping the Whalers in Hartford when he bought them. He just bought them to move to a bigger TV market.
That was reverse retro jerseys the Avalanche did for some games for one season, they're not going to wear Quebec Nordiques jerseys again
I was gonna mention them, it's even worse than most teams that have moved! On top of what you mentioned, an American team adorning a jersey covered in fleurs-de-lis and the "Nordiques" logo is very literally cultural appropriation.
@@jefff.5442 I know that many people from Connecticut have moved to North Carolina. It would appear to me that people formerly from Connecticut living in North Carolina would welcome seeing Whalers jerseys at Hurricanes games.
I'm no titans or Texans fan but doing that was totally disrespectful
On the bright side, Seattle forever keeps the Sonics name and colors and franchise records. That’s why it is incorrect for people to say the Thunder have won a championship. No. They have never won a championship. The Sonics won a championship.
Kinda/sorta. NBA official records still combine the two franchises in terms of statistics and results, meaning they HAVE won a championship, at least according to the NBA. The Thunder don't really publicly claim any of it though, and they did agree to allow Seattle to keep the name and colors, and they even left the physical championship trophy behind. If Seattle does get an expansion team, then the Thunder will officially cede the records and history to Seattle's new team.
Same with the Cleveland Browns, who were brought back as a continuation of the old Browns and the Ravens are it's own franchise, and the Phoenix/Arizona Coyotes who could get their name back whenever they get a new team. I wish it was like this with every team that moves.
Technically, Seattle kept the name and colors. The franchise records, banners, trophies, etc. were and still are owned by the Thunder. All of the paraphernalia has been kept at MOHAI in Seattle for the past 16+ years in anticipation of a Sonics return. Without getting too far in the weeds, there was an agreement to freely share the team history if a team started playing in a renovated KeyArena within 5 years of the team leaving, which would've been 2013.
The Thunder franchise gets to claim ownership of the '79 championship, just as the Kings get to claim ownership of the 1951 Rochester Royals championship. The Thunder have even made a duplicate championship trophy. We'll see if the history gets separately given to Seattle -- like the arrangement with the Hornets' and Pelicans' histories when Charlotte got the name back -- or if it remains shared, as was in the arena lease settlement agreement when the team left .
The one thing I'll credit the Thunder with is that they rarely, if ever, reference the Sonics' past. They consider the team started in 2008, and they've never attempted to wear throwback Sonics unis. They also didn't claim the championship when the NBA started putting special championship signifiers on jerseys. They do get a cut of retro merch sales, but some portion of those sales is shared amongst all teams.
A new agreement for the team history would have to be negotiated when the Sonics return. I'm guessing it will likely be freely and simply granted.
@@JPS47 Yep, the Ravens were retroactively classified as an "expansion" team that started in 1996.
I believe the New Orleans Pelicans are now considered a 2002 NBA expansion team. This was part of their agreement to give the Hornets name back to Charlotte in 2013.
The Hornets count their 1988-2002 history, their 2004-2012 Bobcats history, and their modern history. New Orleans kept the 2002-2012 New Orleans Hornets and New Orleans/Oklahoma City Hornets histories, in addition to everything from 2013 on.
@@Playhouse76pretty sure in the agreement for the sonics to move to OKC, they couldn’t use any Sonics uniforms/colours
Bring back the Houston Oilers! I miss the team. Earl Campbell and all…
I miss the baby blue oil Derrick. What a great logo!
Earl Campbell is too old to suit up now
Don't tell me moving a team doesn't cut people deep, I remember the last time I visited New York I rode the subway out to old Yankee Stadium wearing my Dodgers jacket and a kindly old man on the D train complimented me on the jacket and then told me about his childhood in Brooklyn and how much he loved the Dodgers, and his memories of going to see Pee Wee, Jackie, Campy, and the Duke with his dad and his face suddenly turned angry as he went from telling me about the joy of the Dodgers winning the World Series for the first time and then the agony of them leaving for California. I remember the chill running down my spine when his face turning red, pointed his finger at me and told me sternly "They broke my heart, I'll never forgive them"
As a New Yorker (and a Yankee fan),this is what I point to when people ask why the Mets are more popular than the Yankees in New York,which actually shocks people who aren't New Yorkers. Supposedly,the Mets' blue and orange color scheme,besides being the official colors of New York City,is a nod to both the Dodgers and Giants. Even their current stadium,CitiField,is modeled on Brooklyn's Ebbets Field
@@henrymanzano2201I’m shocked they are, their attendance is lower and they don’t have the same success as the Yankees but your point is correct
That happened to me in a Dennys in San Diego of all places.
Having Breakfast one morning and an old guy saw me wearing my Dodger hat and shirt.
He proceeded to tell me more or less the same story about living in Brooklyn, and all the greats like PeeWee, the Duke, Jackie, etc. He spoke almost wistfully about going to Ebbets Field, and even he still cheered for the Dodgers and moved to California after he retired,...
he never forgave Walter O'Malley.
@@henrymanzano2201Yep,...the Dodger Blue and Giants Orange are a tribute to New York's "lost teams"
hahaha , what a great story with a great ending! 🤣thanks for telling! 🙃👍
Fun Fact: The Titans/Adams still owe the city of Houston money for the last upgrades that were done to the Astrodome before they moved. I think it's great that every time the Titans have worn the Oilers colors that the Texans have smoked them.
there is a difference between wearing the old jerseys at any game versus going to the former city and wearing them in front of the former fans!
I want to see the Ravens wear throwback Browns jerseys while they play the Browns.
I want to see Fart Modell's dead carcass on a barbecue spit. But actually, I think it'd be better to have the Houston Texans and Tennessee Titans both *forced* to wear Oilers attire in both games of each hear's home-and-home series: with one wearing the home gear and the white helmets, the other wearing the road gear and either the blue or silver helmets the team wore before adopting the white 'classic' look in the mid 1970's.
They can’t dummy, the browns franchise never left Cleveland, everything stayed that’s the difference
@@mkaz4232 Yeah. It's the same with the Charlotte Hornets. Just a whole retcon that they never left Charlotte and were just taking a Hiatus.
Ravens don’t need to dress like losers they are a winning franchise
Maybe they could wear the Colts .. Johnny U🎉
As a New Orleans resident I completely understand that Jazz name belongs to Utah after 45 years, two iconic players and an iconic coach but I was also glad that the NBA didn't retire "Hornets" and allowed Charlotte to reassume the name after we became the Pelicans.
Pelicans has to be the worst name in sports. Should've been called the New Orleans Voodoo
@@daveunknown01 Voodos (cool name!) would have been a bad choice, bible belt loonies would have gone nuts over that choice. Why do you think the Tampa Bay Rays dropped their original name, the Devil Rays?
Literally just commented something like this. Facts.
They should have been New Orleans Soul or Voodoo or buy the jazz back.. Because Utah should be Grizzles and Memphis should be related to music as well
Memphis should have went Egyptian
I’d say the Titans/Oilers one is worse than Carolina/Hartford, Expos, etc. Not only did they use the uniforms, but they did so AGAINST the new Houston team. You could at least make a somewhat argument for the other ones; Tennessee was straight-up choosing to try and hurt their old fans in Houston.
No one old enough to remember Oilers is a fan of the Adam's family. This Uni move felt petty. In 02....we miss the name. But thewholecity was ready to move on from Adam's ownership.
Fresh start...
The Texans brand/logo/color scheme/unis are very slick and a great next step for Houston once they had to come up with something new after the Oilers.
Yeah, I love the nostalgia of the old uniforms, but was curious as to the Titans timing of wearing them versus the Texans as you mention 🤔
I always thought when the city of Houston was seeking a new name, they should have gone with the "Drillers." Keep the same color and logo (it would have had to have some hint of change, legally I assume) and just simply have oil spewing out of the derrick on the helmet.
Do the nats even wear expos jerseys, because I thought they only had home, away, and the cherry blossom jerseys
I don’t mind it. I’m from Vancouver and Memphis wore the old Grizzly jerseys the other night. It was nice to see the colors again. I’d rather see old throwback colors instead of the silly “city” jerseys used in the NBA and MLB.
At least Memphis kept the Grizzlies name. Hopefully one day Vancouver can get a fresh NBA franchise.
When folks see that Logo .They arent thinking about Tennesse
I personally think any team that relocates needs to leave the name, uniforms, and team history in the city they left. You move, you start all over.
So the LA Dodgers should have left the name, uniforms colors back in Brooklyn in 1958? that was never going to happen
@@michaelleroy9281 every. Team. That. Relocates.
@@michaelleroy9281 Yes, they should have! That moniker was intrinsic to Brooklyn history.
@@michaelleroy9281you can grandfather in the prior teams and still set a boundary going forward 🙄
Agreed.
Also the NFL has tried to force the university of Houston to not wear this shade of blue.
Funny things they lost the case so ever Houston team has the colors
And that makes me really mad. You can’t own a color and the NFL has no business dictating colors to a college team.
It's not the NFL. It's the Adams family that's the bad guys here. And the color scheme is considered part of the intellectual property, for better or worse. Change the shade of red or replace white with off-white, and there's no case.
@@mactheknife7049 - Except Bud Adams
Carl-Uma-Nancy-Tom
daughters are manipulating the other idiot owners and Goodell to do this! Same thing with Robert Irsay getting the rest of the morons to block Baltimore from using the Colts name when they acquired a CFL team (now the current incarnation of the Montreal Alouettes) and later, the Browns. Thus why Baltimore had the Stallions, and now has the Ravens instead.
If anybody
Diane-Ed-Sal-Edith-Ron-Valerie-Eli-Sam
the Brian Thompson "treatment" at this point, it's Bud's daughters and Jim Irsay!
That's a total dick move by the NFL. If anything,it's the Texans who should be allowed those colors. Correct me if I'm wrong,but don't the Texans have a powder blue alternate as a 4th uniform?
I grew up a Houston Oilers fan. I hated it when Bud Adams moved the team and the name could no longer be used. It killed me to find out the new team coming would be called the Texans. But at least Kansas City owner Lamar Hunt didn't block the name.
The Titans do this to Troll Houston and the Texans… There was a beef a few years back because JJ Watt and DeAndre Hopkins wanted the league to step in and allow the Texans to wear the Oilers Throwbacks but the Titans told them to Kick Rocks…
Oilers belong in Houston. I'm a native Houstonian who now lives in Nashville and watching the Titans wear the Oilers jersey is nauseating.
Pretty soon, Fisher is going to be selling "throwback" oakland A's jerseys
Fisher takes me as the guy who will pump every last dollar out of A's fans or anyone who wants the old throwbacks
Fisher, right now is saying "Write that down, write that down, write that down!" Lol
@@zch7491
If Fisher was smart, he’d use separate unis for all their three former cities.
He's already doing that. I wanted to buy one of the "Oakland" on field jackets the last couple games. I asked the guys working there if any of the Oakland gear would be on sale. They said no, they plan on selling it in Sac. I would bet they throw a "throwback" sticker on all of it
That's another thing. They should re-brand. They should not call themselves the Las Vegas A's. I said the same thing about the Raiders. Pirates in the desert? It makes no sense. At least in Oakland and LA,they were near a body of water. As for the A's,there are plenty of names they could use
Growing up in Baltimore (age 56) I still wish the Colts would have rebranded before they left. Colts had to do with the Maryland horse racing industry. They could have rebranded as the 500’s and had a race car on the helmet. Very glad there was never a “Baltimore Browns”.
I'm a few years younger and I agree 100%.
HAHA, The Indianapolis 500's?
I think with Indianapolis,they decided to keep the Colts name because Indiana has a connection to the horse/farming industry. Baltimore Browns would have been an interesting name,and even made more sense than Cleveland,as the current incarnation of the Orioles was originally the St Louis Browns. Cleveland could've been the Panthers,but something happened where that name was voted down
@@michaelleroy9281Indy Mayflowers are more like it
@@henrymanzano2201 Excellent call w/ the St. Louis Browns. Known about the Browns/Orioles for years but the Browns/Ravens JUST clicked. That's crazy.
As a former oiler fan and Houston Texans fan thank you for making this video. Every Houstonian thinks the same thing.
Do I agree all these morons in Htown wearing this shit it’s like your ex wife cheated on you and sends pic of her cheating and you still love the bitch
We sure do!
I wish the Texans were the Oilers instead though. tagliabue 👎
Though, I wouldn't want original Oiler records to go back to Houston. Having it done with the new Browns feels like they "stole" history to me.
Anyway, as a kid I was an Oiler fan, but I don't really have a team now. Changing to the Titans I couldn't go with them anymore. And Houston Texans just didn't feel right to me either (I live in VA, not Houston, so I don't necessarily have a city loyalty).
Life would have been perfet if the Houston Oilers stayed, and the Tennessee Titans were an expansion franchise
Bruh speak for yourself
The Kansas City Chiefs do the same on throwback day. They wear the "Dallas Texans'" version of their uniform. Us Dallas Cowboys' fans never wanna see "Dallas" associated with another team.
Trust me Brodie, the younger Houston generation DOES care. I am one of them. The Houston flag and police cars were those colors long before the Oilers arrived. We want our colors and name back. Just look at what the UH cougars wore this year.
The uniforms being rolled out specifically when they were playing Houston was a big time F you. But we made them pay. I think they legally challenge any Houston organization from wearing uniforms in “Houston blue”. Absolutely hateful.
Nashville wants a superbowl. Have cal demand oilers jerseys go to h town as part of it. Grew up in luv ya blue
I liked it, when UH did that, I heard that the Tennessee Titians had some butthurt over that.
The Titans sending a cease-and-desist letter to UH was a low blow. I am not even originally from Houston, and yet I completely side with my new hometown on this issue.
This upset me almost a decade ago when the LA Lakers started wearingnuiforms that said "MPLS" across the chest...
If I have to watch the Browns lose twice a year to the Ravens, every other sports fan can deal with it
Cleveland kept the branding at least.
You actually beat us once this year...we played like crap. GO RAVENS
@@stevekassel3301 Oh I’m a Ravens fan as well. Just wish we could have kept the Colts name and colors back in the day. I think it’s better to leave the name and colors behind. Greedy owners want to move then move. Ravens 28 Bills 24.
@@annex4398Doesn't matter because they will always b an expansion team!! The old Browns play in Baltimore.
I know this isn't related,but please delete the Browns franchise...their constant tanking and mismanagement of quarterbacks is not cute anymore. You guys get number 1 pick after number 1 pick, meanwhile,other teams (like my Giants) NEED a generational talent to become relevant again,but now,we can't have one because... surprise! Cleveland tanks again. And then,teams and cities like Cleveland have the nerve to say that "nEw yOrK aNd LoS aNGeLeS aRe rUiNiNg sPoRts"
It would be like the Dallas Stars wearing Minnesota North Stars uniforms.
I’m glad the Wild was able to adopt the North Stars aesthetics, I love their green and yellow jerseys
I can’t stand ALL ALTERNATE JERSEYS. Teams should wear one road uniform, and one home uniform THAT’S IT…Can you imagine Babe Ruth wearing a red yankee hat, Bart Starr wearing a blue packer jersey, or Bill Russell wearing a gold Celtics jersey
@@gustavsorensen9301k boomer
and it would be worse - if they wore the old north stars jerseys when playing in st paul
They almost did that
The Stars nearly wore a North Stars inspired jersey but its the letter D with the star behind the letter that the D ends at point the stars, instead of the iconic N, but it was rejected but it was made
I think its long overdue for the Titans to sell the Oilers name and colors back to Houston similar to what the New Orleans Pelicans did with the Charlotte Bobcats for the Hornets name, image, likeness. Also, the NFL tried to for the University of Houston to not wear the shade of blue and forced the Houston Roughnecks to alter their logo.
Here's the thing. Oil and Gas is a vital industry in Houston. The name and anything associated with said industry resonates deeply with Houstonians.
@0:20 Oilers is a better name than Titans. Shows that the Titans don't even value their name.
Oilers makes more sense for Houston thanks to the oil industry back then. Nashville is called "The Athens of the South" hence the Titans nickname
@@jameslindsley3267 I appreciate your explanation, but they should be called the Nashville Titans instead if that is what they are going for. Tennessee is the tristar state or the volunteer state in my mind.
Get yourself a McJesus jersey 😂
They stole the Titans name from the the Jets
It was Amy Adams having a vendetta and blaming Houston fans for not wanting to support a new stadium. Ironicaly Ive read that she still lives here.
He was a real jerk, Houston was glad to get rid of him.
@@TTTRAVELS80 Remember when Bud shot both middle fingers to Ralph Wilson? That tells you what kind of "man" he was.
As bad as it was for the Seattle SuperSonics to move to OKC, atleast they were nice enough to leave the name in Seattle I case they ever got another team.
If OKC had ever worn Sonics colors and logos, Seattle would start a war and invade them. It's good they kept the rights to the team and history
Unfortunately the NBA still uses the Sonics team history stats (player, game, seasonal) with overall Thunder team history stats (player, game, seasonal). That gets me livid.
Yes, that's the reasonable thing to do. Our city is getting a team at the expense of your city no longer having one, so the least we could do is leave the old name and colors and history with you and come up with new stuff for ourselves. That's what happened with the Browns-Ravens situation.
@@boltyourselfin 😂ok
I do believe the OKC Thunder has the franchise records, like the 1979 NBA Championship
It’s almost like the NFL and its owners are tone def…..
The only one I kind of don't mind is the Carolina Hurricanes having Whalers night. With the Titans what burned me up was when they told the University of Houston last year, they couldn't use the uniforms in Oilers colors. Always liked the Titans up to that point.
thank you brodie for another insightful video. i am learning so much from you -- you're the best and please keep 'em coming !!
The Titans wearing the old Oilers uniforms against the Texans was a clear "Look at what you can't have" message. If they'd done that against anyone else, no one would bat an eye but that was a definite middle finger to the Texans and Houston football fans.
Not just Houston football fans, but all of Houston. Last year they tried to stop UH from wearing powder blue uniforms to honor our history. I'm not even a UH fan, and I respect the hell out of that university for sticking by their decision and telling the NFL to shove it.
The Texans should be the Oilers. Why did they retire the name?
Because Bud Adams and his daughters are spiteful
Carl-Uma-Nancy-Tom-Sal!
Those uniforms and that tower are iconic.
Texans jerseys look bland
As a former North Stars fan, when the team left...well, that sucked. Of course, that was quite some time ago, and having the Minnesota Wild has helped. But if the Dallas Stars came out for a game wearing uniforms that said "Minnesota North Stars", I'd be pissed.
I like that the Wild have worn their logo in green and gold on North Stars jerseys as their retro/thtowback uniform. The Wild should adopt that as their permanent colors and uniform going forward.
If the Thunder wear SuperSonics jerseys, we riot
CT native and former Whalers fan here. The Hurricanes wearing Whalers jerseys is beyond stupid. It's like the franchise completely forgot that they moved to NC in the first place simply out of greed.
I hope one day Hartford can come back. I think most hockey fans would love to see that. Sadly I don't think Bettman or his successor will allow another franchise in the New England area. Same with the Nordiques. They're not gonna let another franchise cut into Montreal's money.
...and they'll play the Brass Bonanza too. I like that song so I don't mind too much. :D
I would've liked it if the Coyotes wore throwback Jets jerseys before we got our Jets back, I don't see what the big deal is, it's just honoring and showing appreciation to what the franchise used to be
Ironically, as a Virginian, although I was never a hockey fan (we didn't have any access to hockey in rural VA in the 80s, beyond the sports page and ESPN), but I always thought Hartford Whalers was a cool name as a kid.
@@HonestUAWElectrician Bettman wants more teams in the south. He really wants one in Charlotte to be a rival to the Hurricanes.
As an Oilers fan that grew up watching the Luv Ya Blue era and the saga of Bud Adams moving the team, it stings to see the Texans play the Titans in our uniforms. But i take comfort in the fact that the Texans are 2-0 againt the Tennessee "Oilers".
Or the fact the Texans had to fight a ton just to get a little bit of the Columbia blue
The Adams family is a disgrace. If they're going to wear that beautiful shade of Columbia blue with that awesome logo, they should be forced to change their name to the Tennessee SOILERS.
@MisterMasterShake or be like the Milwaukee Brewers and have it where both they and the Seattle Mariners can wear and use the Seattle Pilots logo (though since Nike took over throw back uniforms have gone away which is dumb)
Well too bad yall want make it to a superbowl
Was an Oilers fan for years, became a Titans fan up until they played in the Oiler jerseys. Then they threatened to sue the U. of Houston because they have some Luv Ya Blu uniforms. The Adams family is a horrible ownership. Now a Texans fan.
The Titans do this EVERY TIME the Texans play in Nashville for the past few years .. out of spite.
Only since 2023
@@michaelleroy9281 hence why he said “the past few years”.
and they continue to lose those games
The Titans wear the old Houston uniforms, Do the Texans wear the old Dallas Texans uniforms, or is that reserved for the Dallas Cowboys? What would the Houston Texans wear? Imagine if the Titans and Texans both wore the old Oilers uniforms. One would have to wear the white jerseys and the other the blue.
@@arthurmcdermott3312 The old Dallas Texans unis are reserved for the Chiefs, who were the Dallas Texans from 1960-62. The Cowboys wear the unis from their inaugural season of 1960, with the white helmets, while the Jets have worn the unis of the old New York Titans. Perhaps the Texans could wear the Silver Oiler Helmets when the Titans playin Houston.
I'm an old man. I used to be able to tell you who was what they used to be before they are what they are now. But now I'm old and confused.
Lmao, I read this in Abe Simpson's voice
It is bittersweet. Yet, as a lifelong Expos fan, seeing the uniform on an MLB field was exhilarating. I agreed with the then Nationals announcer and former Expos player F. P. Santangelo - the retro uni tribute was an overall positive.
Loved the expos uniforms and their throwbacks. I hope Montreal gets another franchise at some point
@mrwhirly0358 Thanks, bruh. It was hard losing my team after thirty years. I'm afraid the Montréal ship has sailed, though. No government support. Expos Toujours!
@@thomasjoseph3488the pain of Canadians losing teams is we know it isn't always greed, sometimes it is survival for the team. The Expos didn't have a Canadian owner who could support them, there wasn't a decent ball park and the Canadian Dollar sucked. No one north of the border wanted to see the Expos go; hell we didn't want to see the Grizzlies leave Vancouver either. BUT in Vancouver, it was greed and to see the Memphis Grizzlies wearing Vancouver jerseys is a slap in the face. In the case of seeing Expos jerseys a decade or so later it is just different ...
Sorry, for us in DC taking your team. Our original Baseball team the Washington Senators we lost twice in 1960 and again in 1971. My Dad grew up as a hardcore Senators’ Fan. He became really happy when the Expos became the Nationals. I honestly like that the Nationals still acknowledge their Expos’ past and that of the old Washington Senators, however I would like the Nationals to wear more often throwback Senators’ 1960s era jerseys. By the way MLB wants to do a special game out in France 🇫🇷 and I was like wouldn’t make more sense to have a team back in Montreal that can more easily appeal to Francophone audiences, like bring an MLB team back in Montreal. I even came up with a name if the team couldn’t use the name Expos, that would be the Montreal Marquis.
@patfinch9907 Kind words appreciated. Expos fans don't blame DC fans for getting the team. It's just hard to lose something that was a huge part of one's life. It's why I feel for Oakland fans now and even Arizona fans of the NHL Coyotes. Cheers.
The Lakers keeping the name from when they were in Minneapolis is just as odd as the Jazz. My parents both graduated from Trinity University in San Antonio and my Dad worked there while he attended so when the Oilers had their training camps there I got to meet some of the players. Still have the powder blue hat they signed. Not only will the Titans not sell the rights to the Oilers they threatened to take legal action when the University of Houston wore the powder blue uniforms.
The NBA insisted that the Lakers keep the name when they moved, for the Jazz they couldn't come up with another name when they moved to Utah
@@michaelleroy9281 Stars would have fit, seeing as there was an ABA team by the same name in Utah
@@michaelleroy9281 I guess inly being the Detroit Gems for a year wasn't much a reason to keep that name but winning the first NBA championship would be a good reason for them to remain the Lakers. If they had moved to Utah they could have been the Salt Lakers.
If a team moves (something that shouldn’t happen either) the name and logo and everything needs to stay with the former city and the team moving should not be allowed to use it.
It be like if the Steelers left Pittsburg and then didn’t give the name and the colors back to the city
That’s exactly what the Titans did to Houston
This is an apt analogy considering both represent the Industry and culture of the town. Steel working for Pittsburgh and Oil & Gas for Houston.
What do fans in Memphis know about Warren Moon and Earl Campbell?
100% agree. We know it ain’t about the fans. It’s all money. If it was about the fans, teams wouldn’t leave in the first place.
The Dodgers got their name from trolley dodgers, fans in Brooklyn who dodged street cars to get to the game. LA is notorious for being car-centric (although they have made strides and have an underrated bus system). The same with Lakers, they were the Minneapolis Lakers, after Minnesota being the “land of 10,000 lakes”. All the championships won by the Dodgers and Lakers made those names associated with LA. Not to mention, NY got the Mets and Minnesota got the T-wolves.
As a UK viewer, the whole issue of franchising is alien in top flight sport. It has happened only once in football (soccer) in recent years. 20 years on and the new entity remain despised by all other fans, not accepted as a real club. The former club reformed and now play at the same level as the new club. Games between them are tense enough as it is. The new club wearing some sort of tribute jersey would probably cause a riot!
Dear Winnesota Mild: we don't care that you wear North Stars colors. We still own you.
From North Texas with Love,
The Dallas Stars.
Plus Wild is such a stupid name! They don't deserve the Stanley as long as they have that name.
The throwback uniforms always look so vibrant on TV. Modern NFL logos and jerseys look like they were designed by someone who forgot their anti-depressants.
Modern uniforms are designed by some stoned gamer, who never played football.
Los Angeles LAKERS.
I bet they wish they had 10,000 lakes nearby right about now.
And they've worn the MPLS jersey.
The Lakers kept the name in LA because the NBA itself requested that they keep that name
They are still the Lakers tho. They didn't ditch the Oilers name but also ban anyone else from using it.
Wow,that's uncalled for. Seriously.
Damn
Unfortunately, that's how sports are in today's sports society. Nobody has respect for anything. Nobody cares about anybody. It's all about the $$$. Nothing else.
It's the cold hard reality. Respect has been lost since the start of this dreaded decade.
If only Utah Hockey Club would honor their history when Winnipeg comes to town .. I'd love to see the Winnipeg Jets play the Winnipeg Jets 🤣
Excellent idea!
nhl should give jets 1.0 history back to winnipeg
@@stevenbauer4799 - Sorry, but I find that stupid and confusing. Plus, the only notable thing they'd be getting back is a couple of Avco Cups. Is that really worth it for a couple of AVCO CUPS? Utah has been a dumpster fire since becoming an NHL team in 1979-80. Focus on winning the Stanley Cup instead, and you'll soon forget about those Avco Cups.
Why would uhc honor winnipeg jet history when uhc is a brand new franchise as defined by nhl with no ties whatsoever to jets 1.0 or az. That makes no fkn sense and is about as idiotic as that other fool who posted nonsense on post and knows nothing about jets history or that uhc has no connection to az./jets 1.0 as well.
Wrong. Really wrong. The Coyotes should never have been allowed to keep the Jets' history in the first place.
That's a slap in the face from the Adam's family. The right move was leaving the Oilers name in Houston or giving it back like Charlotte getting the Hornets name back.
Thankfully Seattle keeps the Sonics name when they return and the Browns name and colors stayed in Cleveland when Modell ripped the team away.
It’s bonkers. Why they didn’t leave oilers in Houston is insane
Yeah I live in H TOWN and was a big Oilers fan and it is insulting for them to wear them also the Houston Cougars were told to cease and desist on wearing uniforms paying homage to our past by wearing very similar oilers jerseys
I love how UH told them to shove it
Im from Dallas and pull for SMU...but when UofH came out in that Oilers' uniform, that was a Thanos move in college football💪🏾🏈
As an Oilers fan growing up, I actually rooted for the Titans more than the Texans until they pulled this stuff.
I would like home teams to stop wearing white at home. It's lame. Wear your colors for your fans.
Yeah I am sick and goddamn tired of hockey fans bitching and moaning saying "NHL teams should wear white at home". Bullshit.
The Titans wearing the Oilers jerseys against Houston is so unbelievably petty that I actually came all the way around to respecting it.
And athletes that played for the old team name and never for the current team name should not sign memorabilia of the new team. Joe Thiesmann should not sign Washington Commanders helmets, Warren Moon should not sign a Titans helmet, and Pat Verbeek should not sign Hurricanes jerseys .
Big mistake when they didn’t name them the Tennessee Tuxedos
Tennessee Ernie Fords
I hate state-based team names, so I was rooting for "Nashville Cats", or "Nashville Teens" ...
Tennessee Tin Cups
Those Oilers uniforms were the best looking in the league. I wish the Titans would simply bring it back and replace the Oiler emblem on the helmet with the current Titans emblem.
Another example is the Colorado Avalanche wearing the Quebec Nordiqes jerseys. Especially painful since the year the franchise moved to Colorado they won a Stanley Cup
Who cares how people feel??? It's mostly just about merchandising.
I care
This is Brodie’s ‘Get off my lawn’ moment. 😂
Nah f*** it, i stand with brodie on this one.
@@bjtgaming I wasn't agreeing or disagreeing with him. Just making an observation. 😉
@@yodaisgod2 I agree with you lol
I'm with Brodie, it is dumb.
Hey I’ll just say our guy Brodie is passionate about this issue because who knows if the A’s do something similar. If they land in Vegas, and meanwhile a new team is formed in Oakland, having to start from scratch. I’d be pissed.
I'd rather the "wrong" team wear the awesome throwbacks than never see them again.
Sorry that baby blue and red has been part of Houston long before the oilers existed.
The Colts wear our uniforms in Baltimore every time they visit 😢
Yeah the Indianapolis Mayflowers don't deserve to wear that horseshoe, Unitas and Mackey agreed
I just find it funny that the Titans org. followed getting over $1 billion in public funding for a new stadium with two garbage seasons followed by this stunt. I doubt I'd find it funny if I lived in Tennessee.
As a Titans fan, this Oilers stuff soured my fandom. I followed the stadium stuff and, of course, was worried they’d move. They finally got the final yes vote and instead of any kind of posts thanking Nashville or Tennessee, they immediately announced that they were bringing their Oilers throwbacks back. The Titans app even has an option to change the icon to “Luv Ya Blue” but not “Titan Up”
@@williamchoate6723Were you making reference to the 1968 hit song “Tighten Up” which was composed by Archie Bell in Houston, TX? “Hi everybody, I'm Archie Bell of the Drells, of Houston, Texas…..” 😂
They should have kept the name logo team everything the uniforms name and logo was🔥 I mean the team leaves but you start another franchise in the same city years later
as someone who lives in Kansas City but is too young to really remember us having a team in the NBA but the Kings name went with the team to Sacramento. By the way interesting note they were the Cincinnati Royals and changed their name to Kings because there was already the MLB Royals in town when they moved.
And they were originally the Syracuse Royals. Remember when the Luckenbill brothers bought the Kings ? They promised the Kings were not going anywhere. Meanwhile, they were building the Arco Arena in Suckramento, their hometown! And we know what happened next....
@@WC3POchannel10A Rochester royals
The NFL Cardinals move from Chicago to St Louis before move to Phoenix Arizona
@@WC3POchannel10A Actually, the Rochester Royals. Syracuse had the Nats, who became the Philadelphia 76ers.
@@WC3POchannel10A actually the Rochester Royals. You had Syracuse Nationals who became the Philadelphia 76ers. The kings won there only NBA title in Rochester.
It's not hard to figure out bruh. Smh. The Tennessee Titans are the Houston Oilers of old. They moved, changed the name, but kept the jerseys for two seasons IN Tennessee. Its the same, as if the Bills moved to Toronto, and called themselves the " Toronto Elks ", but still used the old Bills colors and logo from time to time. This video was a waste of time.
It is also like the Orioles wearing St. Louis Browns uniforms.
True,but it's not as much of an issue in St Louis, because at least they still have the Cardinals
The one that agitates me the most is the Avalanche wearing the Nordiques logo. Knowing full well as long as Bettman is commissioner Quebec City will not get a team
Bettman will put teams in Houston, Charlotte, Jacksonville, Atlanta (third fucking time), Birmingham, New Orleans, Little Rock, Austin, Memphis, Albuquerque, Oklahoma City (or Tulsa) and somewhere in South Carolina before he ever puts one in Quebec City.
I think I’d feel the same way if the Jets wore Thrashers throwbacks. I grew up going to games at least once a season and now I can’t bring myself to root for another team. If owners think the majority of fans will follow their team post move I think they’re being delusional.
Wouldn’t it be perfect Karma now if the Jets wore Coyote jerseys!
@@intentionaloffside8934I mean the Jets (2011) are wearing Jets (1980’s) jerseys which are technically not part of their history. The original jets belong to the coyotes
When Atlanta Spirit sold the Thrashers to True North, ASG retained the Thrashers' IP.
The group disbanded in 2015 after selling the Hawks and operating rights for State Farm Arena to a group led by Tony Ressler, and I assume ASG's claims on the Thrashers' trademarks lapsed, and the NHL reclaimed the trademark, allowing the ECHL's Atlanta Gladiators to use Thrashers' throwback jerseys since 2022.
@@intentionaloffside8934the karma would be if Utah wore Coyotes jerseys
Why did Paul Tagliabue let Cleveland keep the Browns name and uniforms, then a year or so later when the Oilers moved he declared the team name and the coolest uniforms ever would be “retired” instead of letting Houston keep them?
Oil is EVIL. I'm not being sarcastic. The NFL's first WOKE move was pressuring Tennessee to ditch the name "Oilers" then retiring the name forever.
Cleveland sued to keep the name and records.
@ ok. Thank you. Wish Houston would have the moxy to do the same thing.
Being an ex San Diego Chargers fan it's even worse, they kept the name and logo, and other than some new variations of the uniforms that we begged for years when they were here, same uniforms too.
The kicker is that the franchise started out as the Los Angeles Chargers as one of the original AFL franchises. Still, having friends from San Diego and having like the San Diego Chargers for their helmets and uniforms, and John Hadl to Lance Alworth, I feel for San Diego.
But doesn’t it feel good to be an ex Chargers fan? Don’t you relish the thought of Dean Spanos squirming as the team underperforms each year? Such an easy team to root against, given their scumbag owner.
YES!!!!! For years i wanted them to wear the powder blues full time and when the move they finally wear them. That pissed me off even more. Screw the entire NFL.
@ They were never an NFL franchise in LA until Spanos moved them. They spent one year as a fledgling AFL expansion team before moving to San Diego, becoming ingrained in the community, and finally entering the NFL years later.
The Raiders, Colts, Rams, and Cardinals all kept their name and logos. The Chargers are not unique.
You're forgetting the OG of it: the LA Lakers wearing the 'MPLS' throwbacks, like they still play in the land of 10000 lakes
I grew up in Connecticut and get so upset every time Carolina wears those sweaters. Now living in the Bay, I feel we will have the A's pop on an Oakland jersey at some point soon.
Doubtful, Fisher is a Giants fan, he hates Oakland as much as we hate him
Glad you brought up the Expos jerseys. My mind went right to that.
My wife and daughters are huge fans of the Minnesota Wild. We have never understood the penchant they have for green and yellow throwback jerseys for exactly this reason. The Northstars packed up and moved to Dallas. Why honor their memory if not for $$$?
Also, seems ridiculous to me when Vegas or Seattle have throwback jerseys. They don’t have a long enough history to throw back to.
Norm Green was a scumbag for moving the NorthStars
yes all marketing -- doubles their floor space /rack space in the shops.
The Kraken don't have a heritage of their own to draw upon, but Seattle does. The Millionaires were the first US team to win the Stanley Cup in 1917, were tied in the 1919 final in a rematch with the Canadiens that was halted by the "Spanish Flu" pandemic and lost the 1920 Cup to the original Ottawa Senators in a full 5 game series. It wouldn't be until 1993 that a west coast team (the LA Kings) would again make the Stanley Cup final.
The Kraken and Vegas “throwbacks” were both created for the 2024 winter classic.
@@davidt_canucks The Tampa Bay Rays had fauxback uniforms based on the San Diego Padres' late 70s/early 80s uniforms.
Not exactly the same, but I have an acquaintance who was annoyed when the Brooklyn Nets used the old 1990s style NJ Nets floor at Barclays.
That Carolina Hurricanes/Hartford Whalers picture is a nightmare for people with red-green colour blindness. That just adds another layer of face slap to a certain percentage of fans.
We still haven't seen the ultimate insult yet: the Ravens wearing the old Browns jerseys and playing the Browns in Baltimore. I wouldn't put it past them to do this.
The ravens couldn’t do it because when Art Modell moved the Browns he left all the history and team logos/and colors in Cleveland to be used by the expansion team, Bud Adams did the exact opposite when he moved the oilers out of pettiness
That will never happen for the reason listed above. You also won't see the Ravens wear the old Baltimore Colt uniforms because the Indianapolis Colts, along with many Baltimore fans, would strongly object to such a "tribute".
@@rkelly1999 : they're still sports team owners and nothing is ever etched in stone that way. "Compensate" the Cleveland owner in some way and nothing's off the table. This is the same guy who signed Deshaun Watson to a fully guaranteed contract.
Why? It's not like they're playing against each other
There is no appetite in Baltimore for them to troll Cleveland, at least not in that way. Having Cleveland keep the Brown's legacy ended up being the best for both cities under the circumstances.
As a resident of Raleigh, I agree with the sentiment here... if a name moves with the team that's one thing, but if the relocation includes a rebrand? That cuts the tie from at least an identification perspective - it should be outlawed. But Brodie, there's a small error in this particular video: Paul Tagliabue "retired" the Oilers name for no other reason than he didn't have a choice - Bud Adams kept, and to this day the family still controls, the IP behind the "Houston Oilers" brand; and they didn't relinquish it. In fact their annual use of the uniform bolsters their U.S. trademark rights claim to the brand. Tagliabue said it as a face-saving gesture of sorts; and it wasn't the first one he'd done... for about two weeks a few years earlier, Ken Behring was going to move the Seattle Seahawks to Los Angeles. While the move would be stopped when Paul Allen stepped in to buy the team, in that case the NFL *did* control the Seahawks IP rights well enough that Tagliabue could (and did) "retire" the Seahawks name and make it stick. Had Behring moved the team it wouldn't have been the L.A. Seahawks.
Another, completely unrelated but ironic factoid on this subject... had the buyers that moved the St. Louis baseball team there not chosen to do so, and had not the city of Cleveland sued the NFL and Fart Modell to compel them to do adopt a new brand for their respective franchises, today sportscasters would have the fun of referring to the "Baltimore Browns" in the same way their predecessors did the "St. Louis Cardinals" from 1960 to 1988 - by specifying reference to the "football" Browns or the "baseball" Browns...
Ah, the old St. Louis Browns that were runned out of town (and into Baltimore's arms) courtesy of the Cardinals, and St. Louis being too small to support two teams LONG TERM.
And yes, Bud Adams and his pathetic family are still holding the Oilers name hostage. Just another reason the Titans can enjoy the 1909-2015 Chicago Cubs curse for a long time!
Titans are jerks for it but the owner never sold off or transferred the name and history. I will say the way the NFL tries to go after anyone who uses the same color scheme are out of pocket
The Texans had to consult with the Titans on their alternate uniforms and choose a blue that is a different shade than the Oilers. What they created is not what they really wanted which was a play on this uniform.
These are NOT tributes but a backhanded slap in the face
Don't forget about the Chargers, fans in San Diego begged for the team to switch back to powder blue uniforms full time. Then when they move to LA they make the switch. Total slap in the face
Yeah thats some BS San Diego got took for there team and I totally feel for them. To me the Chargers will always be from S.D. and I'm from Los Angeles. Even though they started here in L.A. Teams moving cities now should leave the old nickname behind in the city there leaving and start fresh with a new ID.
@@gusone11 I think that’s a good idea
Love those powder blue unis, one of the best in the league
I was shocked the Spanos family made the switch since the navy blue Chargers were their stamp on the team.
I only follow hockey, so had no idea that this was happening in NFL, MLB, NBA too, but the one that gets me is the Minnesota North Stars rebranded as "Stars" just before moving to Dallas. Then when Minnesota gets an expansion team only a couple years later, they are cock-blocked from using North Stars.
Still, those Oilers throwback jerseys were really sweet.
Should definitely stop. It's just billionaires doing stuff to be spiteful.
I’m an old guy and I have absolutely no problem with a team wearing throwbacks from a previous city. I had season tickets for the Tennessee Oilers in 1998, so those uniforms mean something to me too. However, it was a total dick move wearing them against the Texans.
Would have been more funny if the team had been worth a rip and anyone had been there to see it.
@@hankhillsnrrwurethra Yeah, being a total bag of crap this season did not help.
I personally feel these uniforms should be tied to their cities, not their franchises. These leagues are franchised too, so the leagues should be able to regulate this. The Oilers uniforms and the Columbia blue mean so much to Houston. It's wildly disrespectful for the Titans to wear these, against Houston, no less. It's a nostalgia moneygrab.
Also, the NFL threatened to sue the Houston Cougars over use of similar uniforms to ones the Oilers wore.
As a lifelong oilers fan I couldn't disagree more. People in Houston want everyone to forget that they abandoned the oilers and jumped on the cowboys' bandwagon en masse in the '90s. Look back at how empty the Astrodome was. Then as the cowboys' dynasty was ending the Houston fans realized they had Steve McNair, Eddie George and a damn good football team. THEN they got mad for the team leaving. No sympathy for them.
The reason why Astrodome is so empty not only the stadium is outdated, the team sucked. And who's fault is it? The owner that puts out bad product on the field
That's kinda the point. The oilers were going up as the cowboys were going down. All the people in Houston were wearing Aikman and Emmit jerseys. Bandwagon culture.
We, Dallas Cowboys' fans did get alot of Houston fans cheering for the Cowboys, when the Oiler's left Texas😁🏈
I thought it was tacky at first when the Milwaukee Brewers or Milwaukee Braves uniforms… They’ve done another three occasions. I believe in two if not all of them… They were playing against the Atlanta Braves as a tribute to the city of Milwaukee and it seemed like both teams were Cooperative… kind of…. With that level of partnership, I didn’t seem all that tacky. The Titans wearing the Oiler helmets and uniforms really is on a completely different level. I’m glad you called it out.
If done correctly, throwbacks to a former city can be done on friendly terms.
Jim Irsay and the Adams daughters are spiteful
Carl-Uma-Nancy-Tom-Sal
that
Dave-Ed-Steve-Edith-Ron-Valerie-Eli-Sam
the Brian Thompson effect!
Hate how NBA team nowadays wear black or some dark colour at home and wear white on the road. It should be the other way around
Titans should sell their Houston history to the Texans. Same with North Stars/Stars, Coyotes/Jets, etc.
The Oilers name and colors belong to the Tennessee Titans. I do agree that the Titan's shouldn't wear that jersey when playing against the Texans. Other teams for sure. The Oilers uniforms look a whole lot better than their current uniforms. I like the old Titans uniforms more.