Thanks for watching! It was challenging to find the balance of entertainment and education. I had to cut out a lot of to avoid putting everyone to sleep! Questions? Put them below and I will try my best to answer.
Yes we need an uncut edition! With producer’s comments. Keep this one for the neophytes 😂. This original video will get looked at thousands more times as people well into the future seeking out #steelisreal videos see it
In what direction are you tuning for "compliance?" Surely the geometry of a bike frame will almost always be extremely stiff in the vertical plane, it is essentially a truss. Compared to the deflection in tires, wheels, fork and seatpost, it seems like the vertical deflection of a frame would be quite a miniscule percentage. So are you tuning for side to side flex? Twisting flex? It seems like a bike with a lot of side to side flex would be an inefficient pedaller, and both side flex and twisting flex might lead to vague handling. Maybe it would lead to "lively" handling. I am honestly trying to understand what attributes of frame flex contribute to ride quality for my own curiosity. Never really understood it.
@ the primary flex mode is torsional. When you ride off road, you never hit things square on. The twisting plays a big role in keeping your tires in contact with the ground. This is why you see top downhill racers cutting out braces in their rear triangle, or even using custom steel chainstays.
Explained like a pro! My favorite statement in the video is, "when steel goes past its yield strength it bends, it does not fracture...this means you do not need to overbuild a steel bike to ensure it is safe to ride, instead you can focus on ride quality." Exactly!
As an engineering instructor, I think you did a great presentation of the topic. Makes want to purchase on of your bikes, because you know what's going on in a design.
Almost passed this vid up when I saw the title. After seeing the subject and "steel is real" phrase come up for like 30 years, it's gotten a bit tired for me. But, I hovered over the thumbnail a bit and saw the tech charts pop up, so I decided to watch. Great vid! Really enjoyed the tech bits and forming footage, and was glad it wasn't another "steel has a heart and a soul and a warmth and buttery smoothness" vid. Well done, and I was not aware that True Temper had resumed with Fairing.....cool. Good to see your relationship grow with them.
Italians have Columbus and Dedacciai. British have Reynolds. Americans had True Temper. Japanese have Tange and Kaisei (which used to be Ishiwata). And Tom Ritchey use his own proprietary, triple-butted Ritchey Logic tubing.
Thanks for helping me understand a comment I heard from bike enthusiasts about “flexiness” in their bike frames. It stuck with me all these years and I never understood what they were talking about until today! 😊
I think the main takeaway from this video is Steel allows framebuilders to make bikes that are not going to fail catastrophically and kill someone… they bend before they break - unlike carbon.
@@snorttroll4379 you are missing the point - carbon does not bend - it shatters and you hit the floor so one off builders end up having to overbuild the frame so it does not feel nice to ride. ( large manufacturers will build many frames that they test to destruction to achieve nice ride characteristics with enough strength ). With steel, a small manufacturer can build bikes that feel nice to ride ( because they are only as strong as they need to be ) without the worry of the customer crashing.
this stupid myth has simply taken root in the brains of ignorant people - of course you can build a wing for an Airbus A380 out of aluminum and the wing flexes many meters - millions of times - so what is the point of this silly saying ? from someone who obviously has no idea about the subject but just repeats what others have said at some time ?
@@Śiśna3633this stupid myth has simply taken root in the brains of ignorant people - of course you can build a wing for an Airbus A380 out of aluminum and the wing flexes many meters - millions of times - so what is the point of this silly saying ? from someone who obviously has no idea about the subject but just repeats what others have said at some time ?
@@bertkreft9689 I am asking as a layman. Wing is not one solid piece of aluminium, it's more like a composite, isn't it? So saying that you cannot make a spring out of aluminium is true. Am I right?
Thank and you for that very clear explanation. I have ridden vintage Ti bikes, modern Ti, carbon, aluminum, plain gauge steel and Soma's execution of Tange Prestige. I was never overly impressed with the ride quality of the steel bikes. For some reason my 1973 Raleigh Competition in 531 has this unreal quality that I can only describe as springy and almost floats over chatter. I truly now know why "steel is real". Cheers!
A good tube is nice but it wont make up for bad design. Design and quality manufacturing is more important than the materials used. Good video keep it up!
@@davidmarsden7103 thanks! I filmed and voiced over a segment on “damping” properties of steel (it has none) but it didn’t make the final edit. Another myth of steel
Really wish more people could explain this as well as you did. Some people think of its not carbon its not worth riding. My Hummingbird is my favorite bike.
That was nothing short of fascinating, well presented and obviously factual. As a bike mechanic focusing on steel bike builds i have struggled to explain why steel is a great material for bike frames. This helps a lot. Yield strength, elastic and plastic deformation will be my new key words to help describe why steel framers are awsome. thankyou.
Wow! As a former engineer and everlasting bike nerd, this was fantastic to watch! I did not know how in depth Neuhaus was with their design, and really appreciate the attention to detail! Also super well communicated video!
Great video. I'm still riding a 1994 Diamond Back Axis ,nickel plated XT version, here in the UK. TRUE TEMPER TT LITE tubing, set up as a fully rigid single speed. Love it. Better now I'm a bit heavier and pre loading the frame a bit more in my mid 50's.
Ay my dude! I'm riding a 1990 Diamondback Apex, down under in New Zealand. Good old Deore DX spec. Actually blew me away how nice it is to ride over rough stuff with no suspension to speak of. Not to mention it feels like it could take anything I'm liable to throw at it, short of throwing it off a cliff. Which I never would cos I love it!
I rode around a Diamondback Topanga with a black and white splatter paint job. Those 90's diamondbacks were killer! The True Temper Axis must be really nice.
One of the best bike geek videos I've ever watched! Really enjoyed how you decoded and conceptualized many of the terms we all throw around when talking bikes. I ride steel, aluminum and titanium frames and have tried to understand why they ride differently without leaning into generalizations. This is the knowledge I've been looking for!
This is one of the best explainations of stress-strain curves, I and youngs modulus. I'm going to share with my ME and materials friends at work, where do a lot with Aluminium and Ti.
This was fantastic. I’m a student studying mechanical engineering and have fabricated a couple steel frames in the past 2 years and I definitely want to start making more frequently. This video tickled my brain perfectly as it answered questions that I didn’t quite know how to ask. Thanks! Would love to hear more about the process behind getting the tubes shaped from blanks into the simple pieces of art with all their curves and butts lol
Hi Isaac, as a mechanical engineering student myself I'd love to ask you a couple of questions about your frame fabrication. First of all, probably the most obvious, where did you learn how to do it, both theoretically (geometries, I guess) and practically (the cutting and soldering part)? The second one is: what kind of tools do you use and what would be their price? The third one is about the tubing supplier and the final price of the frame build. I hope to hear you soon, Claudio from Italy
Bravo! That was awesome bike nerd science! I learned a ton of detail and understanding of what I had a vague knowledge of before….and so clearly explained, outstanding 10/10 video! And thanks for sharing Fairlight tubing, yay for another US manufacturer of velo spec tubing I wasn’t aware of! I already have more bikes than I have fingers…but this video convinced me I need to start saving/ sell/ make room for a Neuhaus, to support your outstanding work! Thank you Daniel, please keep making these type of bike science nerd videos and awesome bikes!
great video Daniel! definitely my favorite that's been made about this subject. I really liked how you presented your point from an engineering perspective first, and then followed that up with how it impacts riding and fabrication. the constantly changing scenery, with the interview and bench testing stiffness, was also really interesting and informative.
Awesome video; thanks for sharing this information. I'm a big fan of Neuhaus, and I've been slowly learning frame building, so this type of information is enormously useful.
That was a really great video. I started riding mtb 35 years ago and steel was the only option available. Aluminum came but it always felt that marketing pushed it over steel without real debate. Thanks for the clarification. My first real mtb was a Sunn with Columbus steel frame. I loved it.
I studied materials engineering and I've learnt pretty interesting things about bike design considering the materials manufacturers have to work with thanks to this video. Steel is real indeed, real simple, cost effective, and by processing techniques like bending and heat treatment you can alter many aspects of the bike frame.
Thanks for your comittment to sharing your knowledge! As I study up on frame building, your tutorials, info, and interviews are very informative and easy to understand. Maybe consider teaching some day?
Thanks! This is my form of teaching now. UA-cam videos made me realize that mixing entertainment and education is extremely powerful teaching tool. Nowadays all the information is out there in the world. There are thousands of free text books. But if people don't have the inspiration or motivation to learn, it won't matter. I am starting to realizing the power of the entertainment component of video media!
I was looking at an old Raleigh racer made from steel, with the gear shift on the crossbars on Marketplace the other day in excellent condition, originally from the 80's. Perfect working order and only going for €200.
It's interesting the "Tube Stiffness" part of the video starting @6:47 shows that tube material, e.g., steel vs Ti, doesn't matter nearly as much as tubes' length & diameter. Unlike proportional material elasticity differences, tubes' length and diameter had cubic (power 3) and quartic (power 4) influences. Apparently aluminum frames have reputation for being stiff really only due to tubes' large diameters.
Oh Boy..... this video is real !!! I couldn't have explained it better. I keep trying to educated customers and people in general with a podcast but I think you have simplified it at the best level. Congrats and thanks for that. I may tay the time to duplicate some content in French. Would you mind if I do so? Thanks. JP from 2-11Cycles in France.
Really appreciate all the amazing info you're sharing about frame building. As a hobby builder, I've found it's really helped me to develop my skills and understanding!
My current carbon frame is the most comfortable yet stiff where needed I have ever ridden. It's by far not the latest but it's really good! Yet I never feel 100% safe on it, always having to go out of your way to make sure your frame doesn't get damaged, that's where I like steel more, you can just "abuse" it without any worry. Still not sure if I go for titanium or steel bike as next frame. Guess I need a test ride on titanium first.
Bespoke,custom selected frame building has really advanced. When you think about how long frame building craftsmanship has been around and what advancements have been implemented over time it’s hard to deny that steel has a much richer history of development and design than any other frame material. As for any comparison to an assembly line mass production frame building bicycle design. It should be noted that those factory frames are designed for the masses and cannot be manufactured for everyone’s preferences so will inevitably be produced to be strong enough to avoid any warranty issues of a fat kid jumping off his roof. I truly enjoy this content and look forward to hearing about how you “tune” your frame tubing selection based on a riders weight and needs.
@@tongotongo3143 Fancy forms? Sure, if we conveniently ignore the need for moulds, the required knowledge about layups (vs. being able to just buy ready-made tubing and a metric shitton of small parts to go with it or, need be, just hammer something into shape ... in a world where said tubing and parts have been used for literal centuries and people just know their stuff) ...
Thanks for watching! It was challenging to find the balance of entertainment and education. I had to cut out a lot of to avoid putting everyone to sleep! Questions? Put them below and I will try my best to answer.
Hmm, even if the length doubled I'd be into it.
Yes we need an uncut edition! With producer’s comments. Keep this one for the neophytes 😂. This original video will get looked at thousands more times as people well into the future seeking out #steelisreal videos see it
In what direction are you tuning for "compliance?" Surely the geometry of a bike frame will almost always be extremely stiff in the vertical plane, it is essentially a truss. Compared to the deflection in tires, wheels, fork and seatpost, it seems like the vertical deflection of a frame would be quite a miniscule percentage. So are you tuning for side to side flex? Twisting flex? It seems like a bike with a lot of side to side flex would be an inefficient pedaller, and both side flex and twisting flex might lead to vague handling. Maybe it would lead to "lively" handling. I am honestly trying to understand what attributes of frame flex contribute to ride quality for my own curiosity. Never really understood it.
@ the primary flex mode is torsional. When you ride off road, you never hit things square on. The twisting plays a big role in keeping your tires in contact with the ground. This is why you see top downhill racers cutting out braces in their rear triangle, or even using custom steel chainstays.
Explained like a pro! My favorite statement in the video is, "when steel goes past its yield strength it bends, it does not fracture...this means you do not need to overbuild a steel bike to ensure it is safe to ride, instead you can focus on ride quality." Exactly!
As an engineering instructor, I think you did a great presentation of the topic. Makes want to purchase on of your bikes, because you know what's going on in a design.
When he said ultimate strength, the tube was still plastic deformation area, it didnt snap.
@@nielsgiesen789yeah I noticed that too. Buckling is not tensile failure. Good video otherwise though.
Great vid!
Almost passed this vid up when I saw the title. After seeing the subject and "steel is real" phrase come up for like 30 years, it's gotten a bit tired for me. But, I hovered over the thumbnail a bit and saw the tech charts pop up, so I decided to watch. Great vid! Really enjoyed the tech bits and forming footage, and was glad it wasn't another "steel has a heart and a soul and a warmth and buttery smoothness" vid. Well done, and I was not aware that True Temper had resumed with Fairing.....cool. Good to see your relationship grow with them.
Thanks for spotlighting Fairing - I'd never heard of them before and it's great to see that somebody is still making tubes for frame builders!
Italians have Columbus and Dedacciai. British have Reynolds. Americans had True Temper. Japanese have Tange and Kaisei (which used to be Ishiwata). And Tom Ritchey use his own proprietary, triple-butted Ritchey Logic tubing.
Best vid so far!!
Thanks for helping me understand a comment I heard from bike enthusiasts about “flexiness” in their bike frames. It stuck with me all these years and I never understood what they were talking about until today! 😊
I love that I didn't have to stress or strain to learn about steels mechanical properties!
I think the main takeaway from this video is Steel allows framebuilders to make bikes that are not going to fail catastrophically and kill someone… they bend before they break - unlike carbon.
👏👏👍👍
what if your bike bends on you, how much does it bend?
@@snorttroll4379 you are missing the point - carbon does not bend - it shatters and you hit the floor so one off builders end up having to overbuild the frame so it does not feel nice to ride. ( large manufacturers will build many frames that they test to destruction to achieve nice ride characteristics with enough strength ).
With steel, a small manufacturer can build bikes that feel nice to ride ( because they are only as strong as they need to be ) without the worry of the customer crashing.
This video has so much information that every pause is worth a capture. Thanks for this knowledge!
I missed aluminium in the explanation. Excellent video, thanks!
You cannot make a spring out of aluminum.
this stupid myth has simply taken root in the brains of ignorant people - of course you can build a wing for an Airbus A380 out of aluminum and the wing flexes many meters - millions of times - so what is the point of this silly saying ? from someone who obviously has no idea about the subject but just repeats what others have said at some time ?
Aluminium hardens and becomes brittle and cracks
@@Śiśna3633this stupid myth has simply taken root in the brains of ignorant people - of course you can build a wing for an Airbus A380 out of aluminum and the wing flexes many meters - millions of times - so what is the point of this silly saying ? from someone who obviously has no idea about the subject but just repeats what others have said at some time ?
@@bertkreft9689 I am asking as a layman. Wing is not one solid piece of aluminium, it's more like a composite, isn't it? So saying that you cannot make a spring out of aluminium is true. Am I right?
Excellent presentation
Thank you. Here in the UK I kept expecting you to mention Young's modulus.
Thank and you for that very clear explanation. I have ridden vintage Ti bikes, modern Ti, carbon, aluminum, plain gauge steel and Soma's execution of Tange Prestige. I was never overly impressed with the ride quality of the steel bikes. For some reason my 1973 Raleigh Competition in 531 has this unreal quality that I can only describe as springy and almost floats over chatter. I truly now know why "steel is real". Cheers!
A good tube is nice but it wont make up for bad design. Design and quality manufacturing is more important than the materials used. Good video keep it up!
Excellent overview of what stiffness is! Thanks for putting in the work, so that we can just point people to a clear explanation
Thanks! Now, I consider this video peer-reviewed!
Great video. Top marks for de-mystifying these terms so often thrown-about, confused, conflated & misapplied.
@@davidmarsden7103 thanks! I filmed and voiced over a segment on “damping” properties of steel (it has none) but it didn’t make the final edit. Another myth of steel
This is one of the best videos on UA-cam
Another banger. Love seeing these applied engineering vids that are so simple to follow
The visualization graph was a great touch for understanding where the specific processes like forming occur. Nice work as always!
Really wish more people could explain this as well as you did. Some people think of its not carbon its not worth riding. My Hummingbird is my favorite bike.
@@JasonScottCarter thanks! That means a lot! Regardless of material, I just want to design and build bikes that make people happy
That was nothing short of fascinating, well presented and obviously factual. As a bike mechanic focusing on steel bike builds i have struggled to explain why steel is a great material for bike frames. This helps a lot. Yield strength, elastic and plastic deformation will be my new key words to help describe why steel framers are awsome. thankyou.
Excellent presentation.
great idea to feature fairing. your ode to steel is well appreciated
Wow! As a former engineer and everlasting bike nerd, this was fantastic to watch! I did not know how in depth Neuhaus was with their design, and really appreciate the attention to detail! Also super well communicated video!
Engineers must have attention to detail, its our core philosophy!
Great video. I'm still riding a 1994 Diamond Back Axis ,nickel plated XT version, here in the UK. TRUE TEMPER TT LITE tubing, set up as a fully rigid single speed. Love it. Better now I'm a bit heavier and pre loading the frame a bit more in my mid 50's.
Ay my dude! I'm riding a 1990 Diamondback Apex, down under in New Zealand. Good old Deore DX spec. Actually blew me away how nice it is to ride over rough stuff with no suspension to speak of. Not to mention it feels like it could take anything I'm liable to throw at it, short of throwing it off a cliff. Which I never would cos I love it!
I rode around a Diamondback Topanga with a black and white splatter paint job. Those 90's diamondbacks were killer! The True Temper Axis must be really nice.
👍These engineering and manufacturing heavy videos are what I love most about your channel.
One of the best bike geek videos I've ever watched! Really enjoyed how you decoded and conceptualized many of the terms we all throw around when talking bikes. I ride steel, aluminum and titanium frames and have tried to understand why they ride differently without leaning into generalizations. This is the knowledge I've been looking for!
A really great video. This is what UA-cam was built for.
Awesome! I am a steel bike fan. I will share your video when someone asks why.
great explanation Daniel, well done!
This is one of the best explainations of stress-strain curves, I and youngs modulus. I'm going to share with my ME and materials friends at work, where do a lot with Aluminium and Ti.
This was fantastic. I’m a student studying mechanical engineering and have fabricated a couple steel frames in the past 2 years and I definitely want to start making more frequently. This video tickled my brain perfectly as it answered questions that I didn’t quite know how to ask. Thanks! Would love to hear more about the process behind getting the tubes shaped from blanks into the simple pieces of art with all their curves and butts lol
Hi Isaac, as a mechanical engineering student myself I'd love to ask you a couple of questions about your frame fabrication.
First of all, probably the most obvious, where did you learn how to do it, both theoretically (geometries, I guess) and practically (the cutting and soldering part)?
The second one is: what kind of tools do you use and what would be their price?
The third one is about the tubing supplier and the final price of the frame build.
I hope to hear you soon,
Claudio from Italy
That was super interesting, more please!
Good UA-cam recommendation. Subscribed.
Very informative and educational video. Steel is real because it is simple and easy to work with!
Bring on the deep dive nerdy stuff! I'd be interested in more detail and a longer video. Love your videos!
@@benb9876 thanks! That’s the plan! Slowly building my skills to make the videos equally as entertaining and educational!
Bravo! That was awesome bike nerd science! I learned a ton of detail and understanding of what I had a vague knowledge of before….and so clearly explained, outstanding 10/10 video! And thanks for sharing Fairlight tubing, yay for another US manufacturer of velo spec tubing I wasn’t aware of!
I already have more bikes than I have fingers…but this video convinced me I need to start saving/ sell/ make room for a Neuhaus, to support your outstanding work!
Thank you Daniel, please keep making these type of bike science nerd videos and awesome bikes!
it's refreshing to see such a fantastic informative video yes deffenetly steel is a great material for bike frames
Excellent video!
Good stuff. Those raw tubes look beautiful.
One of the best videos I have seen in a long time. I have both Carbon & Steel road bikes. Both are good !
Agreed! Steel can be real and carbon can be cool!
This is absolutely brilliant! Cheers
This was cool AF! Thanks for putting this out
Love the format of the video! Very informative. Can't wait for more content! 😎
great video Daniel! definitely my favorite that's been made about this subject. I really liked how you presented your point from an engineering perspective first, and then followed that up with how it impacts riding and fabrication. the constantly changing scenery, with the interview and bench testing stiffness, was also really interesting and informative.
@@querk3810 thanks! When designing and building bikes, I think it’s important to have both, the technical and the art!
such a well done video.
Awesome video; thanks for sharing this information. I'm a big fan of Neuhaus, and I've been slowly learning frame building, so this type of information is enormously useful.
That was a really great video. I started riding mtb 35 years ago and steel was the only option available. Aluminum came but it always felt that marketing pushed it over steel without real debate. Thanks for the clarification. My first real mtb was a Sunn with Columbus steel frame. I loved it.
The science major in me really appreciated this video. Great job man
Thank you for such an informative video. I learnt so much, why steel is real.
Super good video! I love to learn more about Frame Building
I love engineering and this video is fantastic. Liked and subscribed. I also love steel framed bikes.
Great video with great, easy to digest explanations. Some day I hope to go custom on the next bike and will definitely consider steel!
Rowley Farmhouse represent! Cheers, Nick!
Really cool stuff. I've always wondered what butting looked like.
Big yes from the UK 🇬🇧🇬🇧
Im Riding a Peugeot Perthus Pro Reynolds 753r Rim Brakes & DownTube Shifters in 2024 its almost 40 years old.💪💪
This was awesome, thank you.
Very enjoyable to watch, learned a bunch!
wow thank you for this video, I would like to watch it again to help it stay in my mind better.
I studied materials engineering and I've learnt pretty interesting things about bike design considering the materials manufacturers have to work with thanks to this video. Steel is real indeed, real simple, cost effective, and by processing techniques like bending and heat treatment you can alter many aspects of the bike frame.
thanks so much for this really good video!
Valuable information.
Dude this was great, super well explained
very cool, would love one on why and why not to use TI in bikes
Thanks for your comittment to sharing your knowledge! As I study up on frame building, your tutorials, info, and interviews are very informative and easy to understand. Maybe consider teaching some day?
Thanks! This is my form of teaching now. UA-cam videos made me realize that mixing entertainment and education is extremely powerful teaching tool. Nowadays all the information is out there in the world. There are thousands of free text books. But if people don't have the inspiration or motivation to learn, it won't matter. I am starting to realizing the power of the entertainment component of video media!
Great explanation, thank you!
As somebody who's in the market for a new metal bike, this was super informative! It however, didn't make my decision any easier lol.
Another great vid, I really appreciate how you present the info . Thanks for sharing
Love it! Thank you. Cleared up some things in my clouded mind. Love my steel bike. Surly Krampus
I was looking at an old Raleigh racer made from steel, with the gear shift on the crossbars on Marketplace the other day in excellent condition, originally from the 80's. Perfect working order and only going for €200.
Omg after the ad @ 5:30 I was literally pouring a cup of french pressed coffee hahaha😂
It's interesting the "Tube Stiffness" part of the video starting @6:47 shows that tube material, e.g., steel vs Ti, doesn't matter nearly as much as tubes' length & diameter. Unlike proportional material elasticity differences, tubes' length and diameter had cubic (power 3) and quartic (power 4) influences. Apparently aluminum frames have reputation for being stiff really only due to tubes' large diameters.
Very cool and captivating video ✌️
Really appreciated this, thank you
really good video. thanks
I'm absolutely not the target audience for this but this is a super cool video/super well put-together!
Thanks for the video! Love my Ritchey Road Logic Rim
One of the last, best rim road bikes!
genuinely good vid
Wow- cool. Thanks
What a video! So interesting
Oh Boy..... this video is real !!! I couldn't have explained it better. I keep trying to educated customers and people in general with a podcast but I think you have simplified it at the best level. Congrats and thanks for that. I may tay the time to duplicate some content in French. Would you mind if I do so? Thanks. JP from 2-11Cycles in France.
@@211cycles sure, no problem, just make sure you cite the source materials!
I learned so much! Thank you 🙏🏽
Don't even need to finish the video to know it deserves a 👍.
Awesome!
So cool I make handmade bicycles in Australia and this was an amazing video.
Rode my steel bike yesterday and it was really fun.
My steel & Ti bikes are still my favorites...
Really appreciate all the amazing info you're sharing about frame building. As a hobby builder, I've found it's really helped me to develop my skills and understanding!
My current carbon frame is the most comfortable yet stiff where needed I have ever ridden. It's by far not the latest but it's really good!
Yet I never feel 100% safe on it, always having to go out of your way to make sure your frame doesn't get damaged, that's where I like steel more, you can just "abuse" it without any worry.
Still not sure if I go for titanium or steel bike as next frame. Guess I need a test ride on titanium first.
Beautifully explained :) ❤
thanks for the video
this confirm the choice of material for my next bike ^^ (probably a VulcainCycles bike's)
Bespoke,custom selected frame building has really advanced. When you think about how long frame building craftsmanship has been around and what advancements have been implemented over time it’s hard to deny that steel has a much richer history of development and design than any other frame material. As for any comparison to an assembly line mass production frame building bicycle design. It should be noted that those factory frames are designed for the masses and cannot be manufactured for everyone’s preferences so will inevitably be produced to be strong enough to avoid any warranty issues of a fat kid jumping off his roof.
I truly enjoy this content and look forward to hearing about how you “tune” your frame tubing selection based on a riders weight and needs.
Been a huge fan of steel bikes for almost 50 years now
Fantastic presentation! Makes me want to dust off my old Specialized Rock Hopper.
man this takes me back to my undergrad engineering days.
Nice intro into some mechanics basics, but it really all boils down to ease of manufacture. Steel easy to cut, shape and join.
Carbon fiber is even easier, that’s why they can make various fancy forms out of carbon fibre.
@@tongotongo3143
Fancy forms? Sure, if we conveniently ignore the need for moulds, the required knowledge about layups (vs. being able to just buy ready-made tubing and a metric shitton of small parts to go with it or, need be, just hammer something into shape ... in a world where said tubing and parts have been used for literal centuries and people just know their stuff) ...
yes... YES... this is what I need in my life. i need me some paper thin tubes for that sublime wobbliness.