@mopar_keys he might do that or might have dropped a full diss song on cole. But cole pulled out the white flag. Kdot can do anything, he's the guy right now.
It's like lebron not entering the dunk contest. His lack of participation doesn't subtract greatness but it does show he fears the smoke and competition of the lyrical kind.
Where was this when he went for lil pump and other mumble rappers? Why even talk about “smoke” and “murdering rappers” when given the opportunity against REAL competition you back out? This isn’t culture, especially not black culture.
man if drake was the one who apologised ya’ll would be clowning the shii outta him n starting petitions to kick him outta hiphop….cole don’t get a pass
Cole wasn't trying to do a collaboration with lil pump also. People can push you to do dumb ish. Plus kdot didn't really say his name. Yall still trying to get him to move like broke ninjas. Like I said real men see real men.
I wanted to see a friendly fade !!! Idc!!! The rest of us would be clowned if we bucked on a fade and or didn’t atleast protect ourselves or try to I get everybody ain’t a gladiator and all that but you can’t be screaming that rah rah if you just gonna turn around a bitch up that’s all ninjas is saying and I been a Cole fan since Friday night lights were all just surprised at his passive behavior in the end bro was cherry picking 🍒!!!
I had to click this asap. See what the real saying about it. I can't STAND social media. I regret getting on there to see what people were saying the past few days. Nobody's thoughtful anymore. Everybody just desperate for attention. And people who aint even part of the culture tryna speak on it smh. I stay off it as much as possible.
Big facts!!!!!! I thought I was the only one💯 hearing a bunch of casual hip-hop fans speaking on this topic is like seeking therapy from a Walmart cashier smh.....
@@stevescott7300how was it BS? J.Cole apologize. J.cole is a dope rapper however he could Never! Be on hip hop Mount Rushmore Of all time but only from 2014-2024 part of the big 3. I got to wait for drake now to drop something
@@charismaticrell4206 nope, this dude is BullShyt. Cole apologizing for going too far, In his eyes is his business.. But this myson whatever dude is bullshyt
Bro reason why fans was hyping this up is cuz cole been hyping neggaz to diss him for years so now his fans are like yess this is the time to go war cole nd this the time u been asking for . But now this b.s come on man this ain’t no man shit
Not exactly the same. Nas on freestyles made it clear what would go down. J struck at a time when Nas was spending time with his mother who was dying. And all in the midst of 9/11. Nas waited till J's birthday to respond. The rest is history.
This is why you a king mysonne because you just explained what I been trying to tell people Cole has the skills and rap abilities. He has more love for Kdot and Kdot has more love for wanting to be number one drake is the same way . My only problem is how many times can you let your boy take shots at you before you need to understand the real truth Cole might see Kdot as a brother but Kdot see Cole as his competitor at some point you have to slap back because it's not love coming from Kdot in the end it's a type of hate
As a person that makes music for the people of the people want it why not give them that… and if ya homie punch you in the face yall can fight and still be homies at the end of the day…
I honestly don't understand why people tripping on Cole..hip hop has always been about being yourself..Cole at the end of the day..he'll go down as 1 of greatest to ever touch a mic..
Weak! Only thing he told me was that he's soft. It's all good. Just don't claim to be the "Muhammad Ali" of this shit. Love his music but he ain't that guy. This was friendly competition and Cole bowed out.
What classic hiphop battles in the past was friendly?? Stop this friendly competition shit. Those battles what they were because the opponents really didn't like each other
Yeah he did make it too deep instead of just treating it like a sport. Everything he said on stage he could have said behind closed doors like The Wrestlers do.
Let's not crown K as king just yet; he did the same thing after his control verse except for the fact that he spoke to the rappers he name-dropped personally and not at a show like J did. These dudes ain't built like they used to be. I guarantee that this would've been the outcome regardless. If it went further, K would've probably spoke to J about it....again
Kendrick lives for this stuff. When he went there, he wasn’t thinking about friendship. It ain’t friendly out here in LA. There’s a different culture and code we live by.
@avashirley2912 No Ava, I don't know Kendrick (weird ass comment), but I guess you do, being from LA and all. It's a known fact that after the control verse, he told niggas it wasn't personal and only about the music. So does he "live for this shit?" Nah, I don't think so, but y'all new niggas live vicariously through these new niggas, so your response isn't surprising. These are my two favorite rappers today because they remind me of my era, but at the end of the day there both soft
Your confused. Throwing stones and hiding your hand is acting like you did nothing wrong. Jcole has done the complete opposite. When your apology is a big as whatever you did your taking accountability. This man apologized at a festival.... He said he let the pressure of rap cause him to do something and it didn't sit right with him so he apologized. Therefore he isn't throwing stones and hiding anything. Hope you have some type of growth on your journey.
J.Cole did the right thing. His style of rap, maturity, and class is not for the immaturity that's in Hip Hop today. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE A GLADIATOR! SHOUT OUT TO J. COLE FOR SHOWING CLASS🔥🔥
Kendrick is the completely undisputed King of New York, now. There's no one to challenge him at all. Cole was the only one skilled and capable enough to dethrone him but backed down when it was his moment. Can't understand why someone would do that, honestly, beyond a total lack of ambition and deep-rooted, borderline apathetic, lack of competitive nature. Nothing has changed, nothing to see, here. Can't take Cole seriously, anymore, to be honest.
J Cole over the past several years talked about destroying rappers on their own songs and looking for competitors. I don't wanna hear them raps anymore. Actually I'm done with Cole.
He had plenty of time to withhold releasing that record. He did it and didn't get the response from people he thought he would. It was the response to that wack shit he couldn't handle. He wanted to do it or he wouldn't have done it. He got backed down after he did it. Threw a rock and then hid his hand. Listen to Element on Kendrick's Damn.
I'm glad that people are recognizing that Drake is a gladiator, but Drake is a dirty gladiator. The kind to throw dirt in someone's eye or pay someone to sabotage his opponent's weapons.. In music terms, it means Drake is willing to compromise, avoid any topics that could sacrifice his popularity. He's a lesser artist than Kendrick, basically. Kendrick is a clean gladiator.
Well isn't that the essence of battle rapping? Going back and forth? Regaurdless of any peer pressure that maybe? Cole got it in him to battle, i think it was more of safety and money concerns. Kendrick ganged up and i doubt cole got a army like that. So i think that was more of a concern to cole. Serious beef on the streets and loosing money at shows snd concerts. In my opinion at least.
The real battle gonna be between kendrick and drake Whenever kendrick decides to finally drop his diss already instead of waiting for drake to take the bait.
@@cperkins5050 in fairness you are making assumptions cuz you aren’t in the studio with drake. And if you listened to the first half of 7 min drill cole sounded alot like drake jus sayin
Kendrick's pride will be his downfall and Cole's humility will be saving grace. J. Cole is on a level many of us will never obtain because our people are heavily enthralled with nicca culture. Get at your real enemy and not your brother. Great synopsis, Ách. ✊🏾
@@NeterRafi77 He's highly puffed up. Like I said, "Prideful." If this was just about confidence why attack his peers without cause? With the same tongue he's acknowledging his Hebraic roots while doing the exact opposite of what the culture teaches. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. After the B.I.G. and Pac era, he should know how to maneuver with diligence. I wonder who's gassing him up because it's obvious that the Elders in his corner aren't guiding him correctly. He could never be on J. Cole's level hence the attacks. Now Cole's own people are disrespecting him because he chose not to take Kendrick's head off. It's like niccas thrive off their own self destruction. I like how the last point of my comment was completely ignored but that's so-called Black people. They always have smoke for their own but are afraid to address the elephant in the room.
I agree with most of what you said but Cole has never been on the level of Kendrick lyrically. It ain’t even just about his gladiator mentality. I’ve been a fan of both since 2011 and Kendrick has always been on another level in the pen game. Cole got out the kitchen because he knows he can’t handle the heat. If his response got the response he wanted I guarantee you he wouldn’t be apologising. He knew he was reaching in his raps and he brought a knife to a gun fight while Kendrick has a bullet proof vest made for sniper bullets.
Why do yall keep trying to equivilate rap to being a warrior/ gladiator. You are literally sitting at home writting or typing lolol This new generation of rap fans trip me out. Rap is expression of who you are and how you feel. You dont compete in rap unless youre on that stage battle rapping. Yall just want to hear grown men yell and scream at each other because thats what this toxic culture taught yall. The whole idea of being the best has always been nonsense because you can lose a battle and still be the best. Battle rap aint about who is more skilled its about hurling insults. Joe Budden beat Jay Z in a battle and Joe was my dude but he aint better than Jay Z. Yall so use to wanting drama and beef and insults thats yall claim thats competing lol Kendrick, Cole, Drake or none of these dudes getting on a stage and battling. All you need to win a battle is material and dirty laundry not really bars. A world tour or your girl tour was not lyrically genius. It just cut deep because his girl had more fans and money than him.
J Cole would rather have the world be disappointed in him than be disappointed in himself. I have nothing but respect for that.
That Apollo Creed analogy was 🔥🔥. That man stood on his square and died there. Undeniable gladiator.... RIP Carl Weathers
"Cole is a warrior, but he's not a gladiator." I love this assessment. Thank you for the perspective, King.
Coles album is fuckin crazy tho some of the illest verses I’ve ever heard on there 🥶🔥
All cap tho...
Might fold later?
@@caasieu what is?
@@casillasj2002 …. Could care less , I’m also looking forward to Kendrick new shit in 2029
@mopar_keys he might do that or might have dropped a full diss song on cole. But cole pulled out the white flag. Kdot can do anything, he's the guy right now.
It's like lebron not entering the dunk contest. His lack of participation doesn't subtract greatness but it does show he fears the smoke and competition of the lyrical kind.
Jcole shouldnt of never got involved in the first place.
This right here is our real culture. Real men see real man ish.
Where was this when he went for lil pump and other mumble rappers? Why even talk about “smoke” and “murdering rappers” when given the opportunity against REAL competition you back out? This isn’t culture, especially not black culture.
Naw...
man if drake was the one who apologised ya’ll would be clowning the shii outta him n starting petitions to kick him outta hiphop….cole don’t get a pass
Cole wasn't trying to do a collaboration with lil pump also. People can push you to do dumb ish. Plus kdot didn't really say his name. Yall still trying to get him to move like broke ninjas. Like I said real men see real men.
@luiz_fuego I don't care about Drake. That cole a kdot collab is what I care about. These battles don't mean much anymore any way it seems.
Cole is humble
This blessed me. I personally was disappointed (I was there in person) but you can’t be mad at it when it’s broken down so truthfully.
He rap all that "i'll lyrically demolish U" shyt in his rhymes, but now he aint built for it, well he should let that part of his style go.
I wanted to see a friendly fade !!! Idc!!! The rest of us would be clowned if we bucked on a fade and or didn’t atleast protect ourselves or try to I get everybody ain’t a gladiator and all that but you can’t be screaming that rah rah if you just gonna turn around a bitch up that’s all ninjas is saying and I been a Cole fan since Friday night lights were all just surprised at his passive behavior in the end bro was cherry picking 🍒!!!
I had to click this asap. See what the real saying about it. I can't STAND social media. I regret getting on there to see what people were saying the past few days. Nobody's thoughtful anymore. Everybody just desperate for attention. And people who aint even part of the culture tryna speak on it smh. I stay off it as much as possible.
Big facts!!!!!! I thought I was the only one💯 hearing a bunch of casual hip-hop fans speaking on this topic is like seeking therapy from a Walmart cashier smh.....
YES!!
Respect the Hector and Achilles comparison. Very good insight .🎤
J Cole is Tre from Boyz N Da Hood, “Let me out the Car”
Dope comparison😅
If I was drake I would did who scene over with j cole out the car then went went do hit lol😂
Tray was real
Mysonne yo King that's the realist thing said since you last spoke, REALITY. from California and been a listener
It's just rap.
One of the best dispositions on the matter Cole world 🫡
LOL the man been sending shots
Nice shot mysonne.......j. cole is Ned stark, honourable to the death. you just dropped pebbles of wisdom.
He dropped some straight bullshyt😂
@@stevescott7300yup
@@stevescott7300how was it BS? J.Cole apologize. J.cole is a dope rapper however he could Never! Be on hip hop Mount Rushmore Of all time but only from 2014-2024 part of the big 3. I got to wait for drake now to drop something
@@charismaticrell4206 nope, this dude is BullShyt.
Cole apologizing for going too far,
In his eyes is his business..
But this myson whatever dude is bullshyt
@@stevescott7300 how?
Shalom, brother. Let it out 🔥 Whatever is done in darkness shall always come to light.. YAH bless
Always coming through with the solid perspective, King I agree with everything you said as usual
FIRST… PEACE TO THE TRU AND LIVING….. BUILD ON POSITIVE DESTROY NEGATIVITY…..
Peace! Right and exact True and Living!
Well spoken Spoken like the General 🔥🔥🔥
This is hip hop.
As we have come to expect, Mys delivers a very well thought out, impassioned, and expressed point of view. One Love!
I loved your take on this. I needed this cuz I could not understand
Bro reason why fans was hyping this up is cuz cole been hyping neggaz to diss him for years so now his fans are like yess this is the time to go war cole nd this the time u been asking for . But now this b.s come on man this ain’t no man shit
I’m a Cole fan too and that’s all ninjas are saying bro omm!!!!
This is the best explanation to this shit that I've seen 💯
Dope breakdown 💪🏾💯
That's the same thing.nas did he didnt want to diss Jay-Z.His😅 man's told him to i'm glad they did
Not exactly the same. Nas on freestyles made it clear what would go down. J struck at a time when Nas was spending time with his mother who was dying. And all in the midst of 9/11. Nas waited till J's birthday to respond. The rest is history.
This is why you a king mysonne because you just explained what I been trying to tell people Cole has the skills and rap abilities. He has more love for Kdot and Kdot has more love for wanting to be number one drake is the same way . My only problem is how many times can you let your boy take shots at you before you need to understand the real truth Cole might see Kdot as a brother but Kdot see Cole as his competitor at some point you have to slap back because it's not love coming from Kdot in the end it's a type of hate
As a person that makes music for the people of the people want it why not give them that… and if ya homie punch you in the face yall can fight and still be homies at the end of the day…
Then he just shouldn't have said anything then if that's how he felt first of all
I like philosophy n history with my music... gratitude and salutations!
I honestly don't understand why people tripping on Cole..hip hop has always been about being yourself..Cole at the end of the day..he'll go down as 1 of greatest to ever touch a mic..
Not in hip hop just in your mind
Papoose ain't say word after that control diss he wanted the smoke
True
Very Well Said
I really like your take on it all. Dope, break down, and I agree 100%.
This is a lyrical battle not a street beef!! 🤦♂️
Great Build General ✊🏿💪🏿
@Mysonne what you driving bro⁉️ That interior is fire 🔥
Hello low vibration agent account
Yalll gotta mysonne’ regardless of what Cole said or whateva decision he made he still highly capable of being a gladiator based off his resume
Weak! Only thing he told me was that he's soft. It's all good. Just don't claim to be the "Muhammad Ali" of this shit. Love his music but he ain't that guy. This was friendly competition and Cole bowed out.
This part!☝🏾
😂😂😂😂you a fan obviously
What classic hiphop battles in the past was friendly?? Stop this friendly competition shit. Those battles what they were because the opponents really didn't like each other
@@Robbinsmar85Nas and Biggie.
Yeah he did make it too deep instead of just treating it like a sport. Everything he said on stage he could have said behind closed doors like The Wrestlers do.
This might be my favorite video on this topic. I'm going to digest it, watch it again and then drop my thoughts on it.
Wow that's a great analogy
J. Cole... 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Let's not crown K as king just yet; he did the same thing after his control verse except for the fact that he spoke to the rappers he name-dropped personally and not at a show like J did. These dudes ain't built like they used to be. I guarantee that this would've been the outcome regardless. If it went further, K would've probably spoke to J about it....again
I feel what you saying but ain't nobody fuc with King Kendric aka K-Dot aka Kung Fu Kenny
Clearly you don’t know Kendrick and more than likely He and J Cole’s relationship is over unless he’s grown like he said about Drake and Kanye.
Kendrick lives for this stuff. When he went there, he wasn’t thinking about friendship. It ain’t friendly out here in LA. There’s a different culture and code we live by.
@avashirley2912 No Ava, I don't know Kendrick (weird ass comment), but I guess you do, being from LA and all. It's a known fact that after the control verse, he told niggas it wasn't personal and only about the music. So does he "live for this shit?" Nah, I don't think so, but y'all new niggas live vicariously through these new niggas, so your response isn't surprising. These are my two favorite rappers today because they remind me of my era, but at the end of the day there both soft
Well said
Perspective
Cole is very smart I agree somewhat 😊
You said it best when you mentioned Andre 3000 …
Joe Budden hasn’t said anything yet and this may be the best take I’ve seen on this topic. 👏🏿👏🏿
It's to late for apology don't throw stones and hide your hands integrity and morals
Your confused. Throwing stones and hiding your hand is acting like you did nothing wrong. Jcole has done the complete opposite. When your apology is a big as whatever you did your taking accountability. This man apologized at a festival.... He said he let the pressure of rap cause him to do something and it didn't sit right with him so he apologized. Therefore he isn't throwing stones and hiding anything. Hope you have some type of growth on your journey.
😢THANX 4DA DEEP CONVO JAHGOD 🗿 MYSONNE RASPECT MY NINJA MEGA MAN MOST-HIGH COVERS US 🎤👑🌠🌞🌃🤯🛸☄️🪐♟️🌐🌆🌚🌝💯
Great point about Mel
J.Cole did the right thing. His style of rap, maturity, and class is not for the immaturity that's in Hip Hop today. HE DOESN'T WANT TO BE A GLADIATOR! SHOUT OUT TO J. COLE FOR SHOWING CLASS🔥🔥
I agree I still like jcole as an artist I think he could have done more but he chose to leave the battle on his own accord keeping it 💯.
Yup! Kendrick is a Gladiator!
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Em is a gladiator as well
I was a gladiator back when I was foung secular music 😂 I was ready for battle lyrically with anyone
Yo ef all dat I wanna hear real good music from real good mc's Hip Hop don't need a battle right now it needs to be rebuilt
Well J Cole shouldn't be rapping because it's part of the game
It really is lol
Kendrick is the completely undisputed King of New York, now. There's no one to challenge him at all. Cole was the only one skilled and capable enough to dethrone him but backed down when it was his moment. Can't understand why someone would do that, honestly, beyond a total lack of ambition and deep-rooted, borderline apathetic, lack of competitive nature. Nothing has changed, nothing to see, here. Can't take Cole seriously, anymore, to be honest.
King of NY?😂😂😂.Fucking goofy
Damn this is real talk! 🙏🙏
great freaking analogy bro Drake def used J Cole as a shield did anyone else notice that
He is speaking nothing but true FACTS and that's 1000 and I know everybody don't want any truth but all he did was smoke facts
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J Cole over the past several years talked about destroying rappers on their own songs and looking for competitors. I don't wanna hear them raps anymore. Actually I'm done with Cole.
Why do you have to diss someone personally to be considered a great rapper. I don’t understand this logic. Black culture is trash
If I was Kendrick Lamar I would use this comment as a interlude when I respond back to J-Cole’s apology.
Big facts HIGHBRIDGE general
I beg to differ
You wouldn't never did nothing like that facts
Jcole gotta drop that nice guy shit or does this make kendrick a bullie?
Kendrick was doing self defense. Drake and Cole were sending subliminals
I agree, I think Cole is a better Emcee, but Kendrick built for this a Gladiator
LYRICAL Joe is the BEAST. And lyrically GOAT
Hold up when you was a battle rapper and Eness did you dirty
Why haven’t he taken down the diss track yet Mysonne?
Talk about the Tulsa fund going bankrupt
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It's a Cole world! Filled with hot 🔥💩.
He had plenty of time to withhold releasing that record. He did it and didn't get the response from people he thought he would. It was the response to that wack shit he couldn't handle. He wanted to do it or he wouldn't have done it. He got backed down after he did it. Threw a rock and then hid his hand. Listen to Element on Kendrick's Damn.
Kendrick no gladiator either. Joey bada$$ and Big Krit is gladiators who devoured Kendrick
Joey who? Research Capital Steez instead
But Ak, makes you respond all the time, its a preference they both super Dope, i like Cole a little better
I'm glad that people are recognizing that Drake is a gladiator, but Drake is a dirty gladiator. The kind to throw dirt in someone's eye or pay someone to sabotage his opponent's weapons..
In music terms, it means Drake is willing to compromise, avoid any topics that could sacrifice his popularity. He's a lesser artist than Kendrick, basically.
Kendrick is a clean gladiator.
We found out that he’s not an M.C he’s a rapper
#Early
Got benzino crying and wanting to hug Eminem
Got Cole apologizing about rapping...
This is a weak time
hi, King...{Respect'}...🤞🏼✊🏼...✨🎥✨
Kendrick Lamar is a gladiator and that’s why he won.
You singing Mferz think yourselves important 😂
Got damn entertainment
Well isn't that the essence of battle rapping? Going back and forth? Regaurdless of any peer pressure that maybe? Cole got it in him to battle, i think it was more of safety and money concerns. Kendrick ganged up and i doubt cole got a army like that. So i think that was more of a concern to cole. Serious beef on the streets and loosing money at shows snd concerts. In my opinion at least.
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The real battle gonna be between kendrick and drake Whenever kendrick decides to finally drop his diss already instead of waiting for drake to take the bait.
But in fairness, we know Drake is not the one actually responding by himself. Cole would never let anyone write for him.
@@cperkins5050 in fairness you are making assumptions cuz you aren’t in the studio with drake. And if you listened to the first half of 7 min drill cole sounded alot like drake jus sayin
Kendrick's pride will be his downfall and Cole's humility will be saving grace. J. Cole is on a level many of us will never obtain because our people are heavily enthralled with nicca culture. Get at your real enemy and not your brother.
Great synopsis, Ách. ✊🏾
There's a difference between pride and self confidence. Kendrick believes in himself.
@@NeterRafi77 He's highly puffed up. Like I said, "Prideful." If this was just about confidence why attack his peers without cause? With the same tongue he's acknowledging his Hebraic roots while doing the exact opposite of what the culture teaches. A double minded man is unstable in all his ways. After the B.I.G. and Pac era, he should know how to maneuver with diligence. I wonder who's gassing him up because it's obvious that the Elders in his corner aren't guiding him correctly. He could never be on J. Cole's level hence the attacks. Now Cole's own people are disrespecting him because he chose not to take Kendrick's head off. It's like niccas thrive off their own self destruction. I like how the last point of my comment was completely ignored but that's so-called Black people. They always have smoke for their own but are afraid to address the elephant in the room.
Actually it was some responses to the control verse bruh
He should come at him from a different space. Let him now hey I can get at you but you my man. If you ain't him stop saying you are.
Ali was a gladiator!
j cole is naruto & kendrick is sasuke
I agree with most of what you said but Cole has never been on the level of Kendrick lyrically. It ain’t even just about his gladiator mentality. I’ve been a fan of both since 2011 and Kendrick has always been on another level in the pen game. Cole got out the kitchen because he knows he can’t handle the heat. If his response got the response he wanted I guarantee you he wouldn’t be apologising. He knew he was reaching in his raps and he brought a knife to a gun fight while Kendrick has a bullet proof vest made for sniper bullets.
Willie Lynch HOP!!
Im glad he not really from n.y
Why do yall keep trying to equivilate rap to being a warrior/ gladiator. You are literally sitting at home writting or typing lolol This new generation of rap fans trip me out. Rap is expression of who you are and how you feel. You dont compete in rap unless youre on that stage battle rapping. Yall just want to hear grown men yell and scream at each other because thats what this toxic culture taught yall. The whole idea of being the best has always been nonsense because you can lose a battle and still be the best. Battle rap aint about who is more skilled its about hurling insults. Joe Budden beat Jay Z in a battle and Joe was my dude but he aint better than Jay Z. Yall so use to wanting drama and beef and insults thats yall claim thats competing lol Kendrick, Cole, Drake or none of these dudes getting on a stage and battling. All you need to win a battle is material and dirty laundry not really bars. A world tour or your girl tour was not lyrically genius. It just cut deep because his girl had more fans and money than him.