James Gunn's NEW SUPERMAN vs HENRY CAVILL: WHO is BETTER!?
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- Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
- In this video, I'll do a deep dive analysis into the pros and cons of HENRY CAVILL'S Snyderverse Superman suit VERSUS David Corenswet's "Gunnverse" Superman suit!
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Henry LOOKED amazing in the suit. He OWNED it. He EMBODIED it. But also, the overly designed suit and the 'alien symbol', all that stuff, imo was brilliant. it was an ALIEN suit. It was the coat of arms for the house of El. It represented HOPE, his family's legacy. All of that was fantastic. A shame the scripts couldn't be better though.
I agree and missed that too.
The script were good, with flaws, but perfect for the story they wanted to tell
Man of Steel was a Good Movie
@@xacn9516 I agree. I think MoS, BvS, and Zach's version of Justice League were actually extremely good, with really the only downside being Doomsday.
To me , his suit wasnt overly designed at all . The lines are simple and the texture just looks like chainmail. Now David's suit is overly designed and too thick
Henry Cavill's suit is so much a part of him that it's more than something he wears -- it's an extension of himself. Corenswet's suit just looks like a suit. Something he wears. It doesn't help that he's actually adjusting his boot in that first image we see of it.
Tbf, Tyler Hoechlin's first Superman suit wasn't that well received by fans but it didn't matter when he delivered a phenomenal performance as Superman (and even got a new and improved suit for his own show).
You havnt seen Corenswet in costume yet on film. Lol you pass judgement before actually seeing something
@@Critic_Chris90210 That's correct. Everyone has judgements about the costume -- that's why we're here. It doesn't mean I don't hope the movie (and costume) succeeds though :)
The fucking movie hasn't come out yet...
I just dont like the idea he using underwear.. Is he showoff his new undereear?.. The rest is fine...
Your supergirl cosplay is 🔥
No; she’s hot!
🧐facts
She's not going to fuq either of you simps. Move along.
Her cosplay PERIOD is 🔥 but you are still right 😊
@@JonS-jn5wy but the suit is ugly! Hellen Slater had a better suit as Supergirl and there is Powergirl
I think the David Corenswet picture was an actual ‘Behind the scenes’ image of David just sitting down putting on the the boots. And the producers just added a cgi background and threw it out there. Which was a mistake. The first official image should be a nicely polished, well edited , in motion/action shot.
If you go back and look Henry’s reveal picture: it’s superman during his fight with Faora and after he just smashed into bank vault. Henry was in Superman mode , he has a stern serious face , his costume was perfectly polished and the lighting made it feel epic. Imagine if the reveal was instead a picture of Henry on his break drinking coffee and they just added an explosion in the background and said “ here’s your Superman!”
Lol. Superman mode? Superman mode is not having superman do death stare with the photo saturation brought down to the lowest level. This is not some corny Beast mode type ahh shit.
Right... so given ALL that's riding on this, for the DCU/Warner Bros, how stupid would it be for them to "just throw out" some lazily doctored pic of the actor putting on his costume, as their first look?
@@clipwtchr30 my point exactly. Everything about davids photo feels lazy. Like it was a random picture in James gunn’s phone snd he just posted it out the blue on a random Wednesday morning
Cavills suit was just like his story was to get brighter as his movies went on
Cavill.
Fosho
I do see him and I don't give a f*** this is Godzilla we're talking here so yes you have to get dark but the crazy part is imagine Batman creating a big ass robot. They even did a picture I'm trying to look for it when David very weird is sitting on his behind while Godzilla is outside doing his job look it up. 💯😂
To me, Henry just looks like Superman.👍
HENRY CAVILL HAS THE BETTER SUIT! Not because he is our Superman but because his suit is more efficiently and remarkably detailed!😎
Your joking right? His suit was crap. All the colours was taken out of it and made into dark move. And it doesn't work without the trunks.
Ooh I love staring the pot Star wars dead to me don't ask me why everybody knows the damn answer.👍 But unfortunately yes Henry wore it better so I'm going to sit back I want to see his first trailer Gunn Superman cuz the comic that's out right now is a f****** backup. 😎💯
We've only seen ONE picture and everyone is jumping the shark. I have to see it on the big screen first.
@@keithramsay6923facts after the film comes out then we can compare.
There is also the little overlooked fact the suit was actually based on Kryptonian Underwear. On Krypton, it was a body suit over which they wore body armour or ceremonial clothing. Henry Cavill’s Superman Suit may have had more potential, possibly it able to act as an interface with a Kryptonian battle suit or some other technology.
Unfortunately that will never realised nor explored.
Siegel and Shuster based Superman’s look on an old fashion circus strongman. So as much as the external underwear looks dated, it’s a nice nod to tradition, and there’s nothing wrong with that.
Cavill has the best suit. Especially his MoS suit and his ZSJL Black suit. They perfectly hug his muscular body, the small details look great, cape flows very nicely, and I love the that ‘S’ style. Just 10/10 suits.
David’s is growing in me though. Just wish it wasn’t so loose.
As to who will be the better Superman on screen, that remains to be seen
I like the New 52 & Kingdom Come inspiration the suit took for the DCU. The DCEU suit was great for its time, it was trying to give a realistic take on Superman and I respect that.
@@suryasingh9738agreed. Superman 52 suit is in my top 3 suits for him, and I love the Kingdom Come symbol. So it’s on the right track
The trunks were original designed into so many super hero costumes because it was the "strong man" look of the day in circuses and such. It symbolized strength and power. It also breaks up the color design of the costume as an added bonus.
Superman costume is his Kryptonian blanket made by Martha Kent. Superman’s costume symbolizes him being a comforting and protective person to humanity - like a blanket.
Cavill looks perfect and will never be topped looks and costume wise. Really miss him as Supe.
He looked perfect, he sounded perfect, he just had to read the dumb lines made by a moron.
Me too.
Cavil's Homelander Suit is already outmatched by David's suit.
Cavil's suit was over designed and has no colour. It's very easy to top. Very low bar
The bulkiness of this suit reminds me of Captain America: First Avenger suit. But that was supposed to be bulky because it was a WW2 army uniform. Maybe this is some sort of Kryptonian version of that? I won't knock it until I see the final product. Miss Cavill, but as a DC fan, I hope this does well, despite superhero movie fatigue.
I have a different perspective. I look at how it fits the story within the movie.
In the Christopher Reeve movie, I believe the suit was made from the blanket that came with him to Earth. So it is a suit a mother made for her son. Consequently it is her earth fashion style.
In the Henry Cavil movie, the suit was made by the ship AI. (His Bio father) So the style is based on Kryptonian fashion style and possibly more for function. It might have been a standard survival suit personalized by the AI for the House of El.
So there are reasons why the suit looks the way it does within the movie script.
Agreed!
The suit is supposed to be automatically installed in his crystal that made his ice home in the attic it is an advanced technology imbedded in those crystals , there’s a super chip at least 500 years ahead of our technology it can literally manufacture cloth out of super fiber optics A.I structure .
Jay has the best suit 🙌
Thank you my friend!
@@snarkyjay stating facts 😊
Except she should cut out the beige cloth on either side of the S
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As Darth Vader once said, - "Don't act so surprised Your Highness" ....😜
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The suit, that Cavill wore…kept changing. The color and style. The intent was to lighten the shade as the character developed…and when the character was the confident and hopeful Superman, we all know and love…then he would be in the brighter shade of Superman that we love.
The same idea was to be behind the filter over the entire film. The more character development, the less dark the filter would be…
This wasn’t a Snyder decision…this was a Nolan decision.
Originally, it was thought that Cavill would be Nolanverses Superman…which, obviously changed…
I very much enjoy your content and thoughtful commentary. And, in that spirit, allow me to suggest that with “Dawn of the Dead,” “Watchmen,” “Batman V Superman (Director’s Cut) and “Zack Snyder’s Justice League,” the designation of Zack Snyder as a hack might be a bit hyperbolic. To each, their own, but I think on a visceral level, Snyder has given me a lot of what I had been wanting to see from the DC realm. That’s all. Keep up the good work.
Henry Cavill is by far the best Superman, he's the very embodiment of the Man of Steel. With Gunn i don't know what to make of his version of Superman.
Thanks for the Birthday Video Sexy Jay!!! You do have the Best Super Suit!!
Ahhhh Happy Birthday Andrew! 🎉
I agree.
Happy Birthday!!! Mine is coming up too!
David in that suit looks more like a live action version of Superboy from Young Justice. They might have shown it like this to make it look like they are still working at it. David might not have the muscle padding under the suit just so ppl will start drama over it. Controversy makes noise and it just might be the case with this photo.
Just figured it out. The new Superman's suit is the Star Lord's jacket with a cape and body suit. Took me a few days.
Made the connection the moment James posted it
Henry Cavill is the obvious choice here. I'm sure the new guy will do ok, but he will forever be compared to Henry. On the super suit you're sporting...."Hellooooooo, NURSE!" Great vid, J.
How bout we wait till we get to see him in action? He might be even better you can’t know
Cavil was compared to Reeves as well. Everyone is being compared to someone.
I'm fine without the trunks. And unpopular option.... I don't always care about comic accurate outfits. Some outfits would look weird. In some cases, as long as the outfit looks good. Then I'm good with it
Fun Fact: The texturing on Cavill's suit is Kryptonian Scripture...
I also liked the fact the Cavill’s suit was supposed to be a chain mail
Suit worn under armor. Zack hit all the right notes when creating it.
Great videos all the time, thanks!
Nice breakdown. Great job!
Lmao she turned the humor up on this one lol. Good video!
I hope you don't mind me saying my superman is Christopher Reeve but I'm a bit older and grew up with those films. Love your content as well.
Cavill is essentially the closest to Reeves as we will get in this era and btw that Super girl suit is 👍🏾👍🏾
Another amazing video and such an amazing cosplay Snarkyjay ❤❤😁😁.
The origin of wearing underwear on the outside. In the 1930's, the most popular athletes were the professional wrestlers. The first comic book superheroes were modeled after professional wrestlers who all wore underwear on the outside. It is not really underwear, not sure exactly what it is called, but wrestlers, acrobats, and trapeze artists all dressed like that, and they were the inspiration for comic book characters.
I think what's confusing about the original design is that his trunks were too brief-like. If you look at the old circus performers and wrestlers, briefs were usually worn over tights of the same color. Meanwhile, the performers wearing them would either be shirtless or else the briefs would be the bottom part of a one-piece singlet.
Trunks, on the other hand, were worn over long underwear that was thicker than tights. I also noticed that trunks and longjohns were usually different colors.
Always loving your intros Jay, the way you walk in wearing your amazing cosplays
Snarky I like the Instagram filtered look for the Snyder-verse. It gave those movies a cool aesthetic kinda like Alex Ross art, it was a nice appeal & one of the best things for those movies.
Also MAN OF STEEL was the best Cavil suit. Raimi suit & Cavil’s suit are peak. James Acheson was on one! 💯
I’ve always wanted a non traditional, non spandex Superman suit. I just didn’t think it’d ever happen because how do you fit it under a suit & tie? Or explain its purpose on an indestructible being? Interested to see more from Gunns Superman.
People don't realize the underwear over the outfit was a result of copying the fighting spandex outfits of wrestlers from back in the day. They were seen as powerful or strong men, and the designer of Superman wanted to incorporate that in the design.
The cape is a different story thought. That gets into incorporating ideas from the 'true' original comic book hero (not superhero) who's honor goes to Zorro.
But finally removing those undies was a welcome change for the modern day.
Henry Cavil is hard to beat as Superman.
I don’t think it is possible for cornsweat appear more like Superman than Cavill.
I just hope the Gunn movies can make up for the huge loss the franchise took with the loss of Cavill.
I get he wanted to restart and disassociate from the Snyderverse, but Cavill was too iconic of a Superman not bring along.
Cornsweat looked like a better looking guy in the early photos I saw.
He looked fat go in the face to me. Prob a result of the bulking up; but hope the muscle didn’t cost him his face.
Plus we were told that the replacement was partly due to Cavills age; Cotnsweat looks to be around the same age as Cavill in that new picture.
I was angry about loss of Cavill.
I was worried but hopeful about Cornsweat and his look as Superman.
And now I’m really worried.
If my worries turn out to be well founded then I’ll furious bc it was obvious to everyone but Gunn that Cavill should remain as Superman.
And not due to nastslgia:
Loved Cavill as Superman
Loved Afleck ad Batman
Hated Adams as Lois
Ok with Gadot as Wonder Woman
Disliked Miller as Flash
Disliked as Aqua Man
Disliked as Cyborg
Ok with Leto as Joker
Hated as Alex Luther.
Great video, Snarks...👍
I liked new 52 Action comics. But he just wore a T shirt w emblem. I like anything Grant Morison.
I personally feel the Superman Reborn suit from Post-DC Rebirth was the best modern take of Superman suit
Thanks for sharing
Just found your channel and am really enjoying it. One new subscriber here.
I think, personally, a lot of us are going to be critical of everything going forwards because of how we feel about Caville's treatment. It's just really hard to be subjective when what seems like a few scant months ago, we were all enraged at him getting the push from this and feeling like he couldn't carry on with The Witcher in such a short space of time.
Clinging by my fingernails for some subjectivity, I agree with the comment comparing this suit to biker leathers; I hadn't seen it until you pointed it out, but it is exactly that. Superman should be buff, he should be filling out his suit and there shouldn't be any "wrinkles". They're going to have to do something impressive to get me to watch yet another reboot of a DC character, especially when I think they just let the best iteration possible slip through their fingers.
I'm a Marvel fan but this cosplay is just WOW… you are what that Flash movie needed
I agree with you on the Snyder suit, the new one looks like overalls with a cape
Judging by thurst factor, the Snyder suit had no collar so Cavill had more of that necc out for the ladies...
I do like the Gunn suit and IMO, I don’t think the lines/seams make it look too MCU-ish because those Marvel suits are sooo outrageously busy-looking in comparison.
Cavil vs Cornsweat ? Winner : Snarky Jay! GODDAMN!!!😍😍😍😍
Oh my god! You're so beautiful! 😘😍🥰♥️
Oh thank you!
Yes she is😊
Speaking facts 🗣️
She knows exactly what she's doing coming out in that cling supes outfit ❤❤❤
Not just beautiful but FOINE Too!!!
Happy Tuesday Jay!! A new challenger has entered the arena 😂 Christopher Reeve I choose you 😂 OG '78 Superman suit for me!
Enjoy your day Alfred!
Slight correction it’s Christopher Reeve …Christopher Reid is the real name of rapper Kid , from Kid n Play 🖖🏾
Totally agree. Great video
I completely agree with everything said about the David suit but I don't get why you would think the color isn't there, when you clearly see a much brighter red and blue on his legs and boots
Love your sense of humour snarky jay
I'll wait until David's in action before judging. At least have a trailer so we'll know how it all plays out. Now you in that suit--just perfect as always.
Best suit? How about Snarky Jay as Supergirl?!! I am holding judgment until the movie comes out. That suit in the picture might be a test suit or they will change with CGI in post-production.
Subbed because of that intro walk up to the cam .. lol .. enjoyed this video. I actually caught some flack from commenting about how the new suit wasnt sitting well ...
I agree with snarky about Henry's suit because I haven't seen anyone that looks more like superman than him. I won't lie I got a little jealous when snarky mentioned crushing on Henry lol. I think snarky should be hired as writer producer and or director because she has all the knowledge wisdom and passion when it comes to knowing the DC characters and I feel she would give us a picture perfect DC movie.
We can fully judge, when we see the full suit.
The old suit henry wore was for the superman returns role he auditioned. But then brian singer came and hired brandon routh for the superman.
The Snyder suit looked organically alien an other-worldly-yet regal an royal, and story-wise they show that it’s like a chain mail-ish under suit to kryptonian armor, the Gunn suit looks…more akin to a cosplay or a 3rd-tier CW suit, More so than the Tyler Hochelin suit on the current CW Superman show. Plus, the texture looks like a basketball.
Henry's suit is my favourite because it looks more alien compared to the other Superman suits
Jay, week people are going to put me down for saying this but your walk-ins are on point, I love them 😍
no red-blooded male would put you down for that comment
How do you feel about month people?
@@doriangray6985 I love yeer-ppl
The red underwear does in fact make the suit interesting. If that would’ve been added, it would’ve been a better look and balanced the colors scheme. It just looks better. Otherwise, the whole suit is long underwear and a cape.
Good points on the muted suit. The end of JL original cut, his suit was far more colored. i wish it had been the whole time he was on screen. Great video, Jay!
1:00 "But that's SNYDER here or there..." I see what you did ;-)
Henry Cavill’s Superman suit was a mixed combo between the classic, New 52, Rebirth and all the live-action actors who played Superman S logos combined. ❤️🔥 your Supergirl cosplay, Snarky! Should see Shazam’s (Captain Marvel) 1940s suit has some lines and no outside trunks. 🌩️
Henry should still be Superman he really look like Superman
Superheros wear undies over their trousers because when superheros were created the first time, the only larger then life people knew were strongmen at the carnivals and circus artists. Those were wearing shorts over their skin tight costumes for practical reasons. So when you saw a guy in a comic book with a skin tight costume and undies on top, you instandly recognized him as a person with extraordinary physical abilties.
Whoa love the suit Jay.
Henry Cavil without question, then suit and the body that went in it!
Don't really care who has the better suit, but man, that's a body to fight for.
I still to this day think if cavill got the red trunks it would have been my favorite along with the brighter colors you saw in black Adam
I gotta agree. The underwear on the outside look is really dated. Cavill's suit looks better imo because of that. Also, Marvel changed Wolverine's "classic" costume to get rid of the black underwear on the outside in Deadpool & Wolverine. I haven't seen anyone crap on the costume from that movie, and a big part of what makes it look good is NOT having that dated look.
He dark colored siut theme denotes the time when Reeve's Superman iteration was influenced by the red/black kryptonite... everything about him became distirted and tainted by a "darkness" shown in the suit itself being stripped of its bright colors
I normally agree with you, but I like the trunks personally, yeah they are outdated but that’s kinda the point, weirdly they have kinda come to serve as a reflection of what the character is and what he represents and believes in. I’m still kinda take ‘em or leave ‘em but I do think they have some kinda cool symbolism and I like that
i'm gonna hafta see david's suit in action before judgement but i always appreciate your deep dives.
Smart man.
Best 4 second intro EVER! 😁
The Nicholas Cage Superman suit that didn't happen, now that's a suit!😂
personally i still thing it’s too soon to judge but i do like the kingdom come crest on corenswet suit.
but best suit goes to you Jay 😉
Haha thank you!
Snyder made a lot of misstepswith his DCEU but that was still peak as well. What they did with costume design, set design, visuals, and even the way those actors partially embodied their characters. None of it has been matched since. So with that in mind, we can and probably should let the “hack” bullsh^t go
Snarky Jay has the best suit, that being said Henry is number 1!
As a comicbook guy I still wish they would use John Byrnes Superman. The suit looked great and the writing was perfect. Cavil started off good but he started to come across as miserable man and not a symbol of hope . The suit was typical Snyder in that it was dull in color. I'm not crazy about the Cornsweat suit but I'm not going to really judge him until we have seen a trailer. Reeves is still the best Superman to me but I'm old .
You make good points! I do like the new suit because it feels like a mixture of classic and new but Henry Cavill’s suit did feel like a proper Superman suit. I just wish Cavill’s suit had brighter colors and the script was better and being a symbol of hope. Henry Cavill deserved better. I’m excited to see what David Corenswet will bring to the table as Superman working with James Gunn. I’m predicting he might get a new suit at the end but can’t wait to see the film. Another awesome video, SnarkyJay! Keep up the awesome work!
in my opion the perfect superman suit would be to use the brandon routh superman returns suit as the base, the texture from the man of steel suit, the bright vibrant blues and reds from christopher reeves suit, for the emblem i say make it as big as the emblem from the brandon routh kingdom come cw suit use the s from superman returns emblem but give it the colours of the max fleisher superman suit so instead of yellow use black and with the belt use the max fleisher colours with the superman returns belt, that would be perfect to me someone needs to do a photoshop of that.
Cavills' suit was pretty cool for the most part. I agree that it was too dark. But my biggest problem with it were those stupid black designs at the sides of his midsection.
Tyler Hoechlin's suit in Clark and Lois is like a much cooler version of the Cavill suit, although it's also too dark.
I don't know if you just said it for the sake of the joke and you know the real reason behind the trunks, but just in case, their point was to emulate the look of circus strongmen, which were still a thing during the 30's when Superman was created.
You have to have pictures of them in the same pose before you can begin to compare . Same lighting would be ideal .
I am one of the few that appreciates Man of Steel. Cavill made that movie. Anyone else would not have made that version of Supes believable. I'm hoping that Gunn does a good job with this movie And David can pull it off. 🤞🏻
Damn. Not only you're beautiful in your own suit, but you also give a thorough suit analysis!
I agree with her when it comes to Henry Cavil's suit. His suit colors were too dark but the fit and make up were on point. Henry Cavil played the role so well. Imma miss that guy as the Man of Steel.
Cavill's suit was perfect. It looks dark on film because of the filter that made everything look muted and less saturated. If you look at the behind the scenes footage and pictures off screen, the colors in the suit are much brighter and more vibrant.
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Ah OK gotcha. Well I wish Zack would have let that color shine through. The bright blue and red definitely would have looked great on the silver screen.
@@MrSpeakerboxx05 I totally agree and get what you're saying. Imo Zack Snyder's more grounded take on Superman was pretty cool and the Man of Steel suit was definitely ahead of it's time. But it would be dope to see a restored version of MOS and BvS with brighter colors and better lighting. 🤝🏽💯
The Corensweat suit looks marvel like it looks almost canvas. Closer to the Guardians 3 team costume, or First Avenger Captain America suit. All the lines at the knees, forearms, shoulders and chest make it look like it needs to have stitching marks in them. Motorcycle gear is exactly right.
Zach snyder started Superman as not a symbol of hope. He wanted Cavill to grow into the role over the next courses of films. Then become that beacon of hope. before Man of steel Most of the previous superman films have been molded. Basically the same as Christopher reeve which I have no problem with. He was my first superman film I ever saw, but as you get older you want something a bit different.
It think it's too early to judge Corenswet, we should wait till the movie comes out. Cavill was amazing as a dark Superman and I think he could've nailed a more lighthearted take, just needed a good script to work off of.
I personally liked Zack's Superman despite being difficult from the comics.
It's the neck collar for me on Superman i dont like. But maybe he will have more than one suit.
Everything about Cavill, the suit, his portrayal, and presence ....it will always be tough to do better. Honestly, if DC had gone FULL in on him -- they would have won the Comic Book Movie wars. Henry could have totally carried that franchise. Too bad writers and plot failed him.
Edit: "He lost the ability to be a symbol of Hope because Zack Synder wouldn't let him be." This statement right here. That's the encapsulation of what happened. Imagine if he had let him?
I like you are in Supergirl suit.
As I share Christopher Reeve's birthdate and I grew up in the 80's I like Reeve.
Every new character that comes along and are going to play Superman, will put a new light on him.
I think why many fans are a bit upset is the fate Cavill got just around his announcement.
If Warner had kept an on-site producer on the Jus 5th ice League set we never would have gotten a 4 hour fiasco that would cost the theaters money.
Henry Cavill is actually passionate about the characters he plays and wants to do them justice, from Superman to Geralt. Who knows how much David will do justice with this Superman.
He superman was trash
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@@dukeheavens9990 You're spelling is trash.
OMG the walk to the camera!
As a 90s kid my Superman will always be Dean Caine! I do agree with the underwear on the outside opinion lol always thought that was odd
Bro the underwear is classic and it's a man component of Superman's look