John told me to comment this: I actually think the feel of the BB is more like the Dumble that I played (one supposedly used on Continuum) than other “d-style” pedals do…
The Jetters I've tried seemed 'crushed' in the low end and 'spitty' in their highs. Should have bought a Van Weelden back when I first started looking at them years ago. Can't go wrong with 'The Dude'. Great pedal for a decent price....and small. Great playing as usual, John.
I opted for a Gladio cornerstone for a D-style overdrive and I think the left channel (now available as a single pedal) is lovely. While the heavier side is decent, I personally prefer less gain and the left channel provides a super sweet and delicate sound.
Most zen style overdrive pedals use the JRC4558 with BAT41 diodes in asymmetric configuration on the the first stage and the second stage is setup as NFB to clean up the sound and get back to a more unity gain. Now the BAT41 is a schottky diode with a very low voltage threshold before clipping the signal to ground. Lots of OD1/SD1/TS modded pedals just have a different diode setup for a different sound and feel. Best overrated example: Landgraff overdrive which uses LED's for clipping at a higher voltage making it louder and raspier. On the other hand Germanium diodes clip sooner and cut more signal, eg volume drop. Less compression versus more compression. Guess where a zen drive is on that spectrum? Sym (ts9) vs assym (sd1) is another great comparison to train your ears. The TS style is way smoother because both sides of the signal are clipped equally. On an OD/SD1 style you get unequal clipping generating a lot more harmonics. Which you can actually hear. Zen is assymetric. Some zen style pedals are made symmetric clippers. Some use regular higher voltage (few mV really) diodes. It is just a heritage of design from the OG OD-1 soft clipping circuit. In short all these pedals soft clip but in different ways. They cut bass (to keep the signal usable because distortion adds harmonics), they boost the mids (most usable fq for guitar player) and tame the highs (pleasant to ear) and remove noise that would be amplified like string rubbing for example. The Dumble amp is basically a Fender style amp with a few F ups that turned out lucky. Marshall, Mesa, Soldano to name a few started out from modified Fender circuits. Also take note how Dumble amps are usually matched with EVs or G12-65s. Pretty different speakers. In short it is all in the mids. BTW van Weelden lives only a few km away.
Oh my, I was exploring this topic for the whole previous week and now this pops up. Haven't watched yet, writing a comment and hitting that like button first because I know it's worth it :) UPDATE: It WAS worth it! Thanks for the upload!
I just showed up here to hear you jam,man. I love your playing! everytime I stumble across one of your videos, I end up downstairs jamming! Try the Tubesteader Beekeeper sometime. That's my Dumblesque tone. I don't think the Dumble sound is in the actual gear, but in the hands and minds of those playing through it.
On my last D-tone hunt (in early 2022) I decided on the Gladio. I got a Dual but the SC would have been ok. The Dude came in second. Nux third. Ultraphonix last. I thankfully didn’t have to acquire a Van Weelden bc the Gladio was the sound i hear in my mind. And from Robben Ford and vintage Larry Carlton. Something I’ve heard more recently is the Malin D-type preamp. It’s real tube preamp apparently copied exactly from a real Dumble. They’re about $1400
Great playing! Never played a Dumble but enjoyed the selection here. From how you describe the sound you prefer I think it's what I go for as well. My 'always on' is the Effectrode Blackbird (tubes 'n all!) and I have been using Paul Crowther's HotCake for decades for a bit more push - currently the Double Hotcake, which is a great 3 in 1 pedal. Both worth a look and a listen! 😊
That was the pedal KEN Fischer of Trainwreck used and said it was the best going into a Trainwreck. He was another Amp. Genius. I used to just walk past trainwreck amps in music stores little did I know I should have been checking them out back then, really touch sensitive amps. LEGENDARY.
I owned a Royal Overdrive, but |I have to admit that it turned out it wasn't what I was looking for. Great pedal, no doubt, but it (for me) was hard to dial in a good tune. Lots of interacting knobs and I'm probably more into a Plexi-like sound after all. Well, I sold it to someone that really wanted one and still is very happy! Win-win! 😆
I’ve owned the mxr too. It’s has a unique sound, but definitely not in the Dumble arena. I sold it and finally found the Simble. It does do a Dumble and much more. It oozes creamy thick tones.
Have you tried any of David Barber's pedals (Barber Electronics)? Specifically, the "older" Small Fry Burn Unit. Have had one for over 10 years. Will never part with it. Suggest getting one and trying it.
Hmm. Thought maybe I’d see the Vox Silk here. Reviews of it are great, but not seen in any shootouts. Just bought one and I really like it. Also very versatile.
I am in this rabbit hole since 1982(!) - that is when I bought my first Dumble ODS clone, a Kitty Hawk. I had never heard of Dumble and actually went to the shop to pick up a Boogie MkI and the changed my mind after hearing the Kitty Hawk. While I still have three Dumble ODS clone amps, for portability reasons I have looked into pedals / ampless rigs for quite some time. The pedals presented are great and sound like what people think a Dumble ODS sounds like - and if that is what you want, great. None of them gets the ODS clean sound right and the overdriven sound of all of them is far to smooth and lacks dynamics compared to the originals. Not saying I found the holy grail (likely I have not), but my current ampless chain is guitar -> Tanabe Zenkudo/Dumkudo twin pedal (overdrive) -> Ethos Clean (the only pedal I have found in decades that gets the clean sound right) -> Boss IR-200 (cab loader, mainly relying on Celestion G12-65 IRs) -> FOH / DAW / FRFR. And yes, I virtually tried everything else (Dumbloid, van Weelden, Fuchs and Amplified Nation pedals, etc.). The next step up would be malinamplification.com/d-type-preamp/ - but since there is no version for European voltages yet, my wallet is safe for now 🙂
@@ronfrey5327 We are talking about two different things. The, allegedly 12, amps Dumble sent to the Roy bothers were not called 'clones', because they were not. Dumble shipped them to Germany without chassis and speaker to reduce customs duties. I have no idea how good or bad they were, but they were original Dumbles, even with his name on the amp. I do know that at least 4 of them are still in use in German studios after 43/44 years - I doubt that anything Fender builds today will last even 20 years. After this initial deal ended, Kitty Hawk built around 20 Dumble ODS clones, which is what I have - they do not contain a single part provided by Dumble. They use the correct schematics and are actually very high quality, mine went thru 2 overhauls in 40 years, which I consider reasonable. The later Kitty Hawk "Standard" and "Junior" amps did still stay very close to that sound and were actually very high quality. The later series, like the Supreme, then deviated clearly from Dumbles designs and (having owned two of those) were not at all high quality. I always said that the Supreme II is the amp my neighbors love the most 😞
I know one local player who gets Dumble Robben Ford sound from of all things an old Music Man combo amp from the late 70's or early 80's. There are Lots of Clone companys out there, who have torn apart Dumbles and looked at components, so it is not some, particularly special thing Alex did, Heck Ken Fischer was another guy who just used the best available to do his particular thing. Some think the TRAINwreck was the ultimate. I notice one thing about doing/using a modeller, one starts to dial in what one wants to get out of whatever amp. was selected, that was what I noticed about what I was doing with one, John with your playing you can make just about any amp. into John N. Cordy sound. And or any modelller tonex, helix, etc. Thanks for doing reviews though.
I use a music man as well, I get it by setting that clean and use a tubesteader Beekeeper. I don't know if it "nails " the sound but I definitely like the sound and topography of the"clean" channel cascading into the overdrive side.
@@tconnell1121 I just checked out that BeeKeeper, An astoundingly Great pedal. You probably do KNOW this, with that pedal because it uses 2 12ax7 tubes in it, what it is doing is replacing the FACT that the MusicMan amps has a solid state preamp, now the Beekeeper is the Preamp going into. It is emulating a DUMBLE preamp into a clean Fender style amp. JUST like Dumble style Amps. do. It is DUMBLE on the CHEAP, i like it. The over drive pedal I think is the no. 1 right now would be DSM Humboldt Silver Linings, Without any tubes in it, it just covers every type pedal I have ever heard, Watch Brett Kingmans video on it here on UA-cam, it blew me away. I would move the pedal you just told me to the no. 2 position, because it Does seem like a great way to go for the D on the cheap. The old no.2 would most likely be that Duelist pedal and or a Gladio, I also like because of the Magnatone Sound the Memphis pedal. I have been able thru my Old Vox Tonelab SE been able to emulate most all the pedals so far that I have Heard. And of Course we watch John Cordy dial in what looks like it would be impossible, and he is doing it mainly with a HELIX, which is Phenomenal. Me I have been learning watching his videos how to get his playing phrasing and techniques down, he is a PLAYER beyond what he THINKS of HIMSELF. HE KNOWS his stuff, I would HIRE him in a BAND anyDAY of ANY WEEK. Oh, I do not know what pedal the Local guy could be using, but it has been 10 years since I saw him do Talk to Your Daughter, I would guess some kind of Tubescreamer style, or like the Left side of the Silver LInings DSM, type pedal, Maybe that Blue one, blues driver, that is a pedal that has been out since the 80's. Thanks for the tip about the BeeKeeper/nice pedal!!!!
Yay another dumble pedal shoot out , but in all seriousness i enjoy these intros so much , one of these days I'm a play a dumble by breaking into John Mayer's house and playing it while he's asleep although I don't know how much dumble tone im going to get playing it at low volume , your job now is to tell me how much tone I'ma get at low volumes while John Mayer's asleep go go go !
You'll get 35% of the tone. In all seriousness, one of the things Robben said about his Dumble was that the tone didn't change much from quieter to louder volumes....
@@johnnathancordy hmm the only thing I can think of then is it has some sort of flux compactor which means you have to play the amp at 88 miles an hour , but I don't know if I can steal his amp attach it to a stolen delorian then drive 88 miles an hour all while trying to get the perfect tone of said amp , sounds like a fun drunken night though , CNN breaking news , drunken man kidnaps old man and holds him hostage at gun point screaming keep the car at 88 while plugging in red es 335 and blerching the perfect tone man the perfect tone , in all seriousness must have some sort of thing in the tone stack that allows for no loss of highs or lows in volume , which I guess makes it special ? I don't know I haven't played one ..yet..
I’m not sure about Robben Ford ever using a Tubescreamer in front of a Fender blackface Bassman amp. As far as I know, Robben’s “Bassman era” was the early-1970’s, years before Ibanez first introduced the TS-808 pedal. I think Mr. Dumble was basing the early ODS sound on just a cranked Bassman, with no pedals. Those amps, BTW, can achieve a significantly more overdriven, medium gain blues/rock tone than the reverb-equipped Fender combo amps of that era, mainly due to having a simpler preamp circuit which doesn’t lose gain from reverb and vibrato effects circuitry as with the combo amps.
I own the dude and absolutely love it. If you have the Chance, try it in the low Input of a 2203 JCM with Volume around 7 .... sounds killer with a strat at a reasonable Volume! Another take away after almost every JNC Video: He sounds great and has superb Tone with every single piece of gear he uses ... ;) Nothing new i know but it still amazes me even after 30+ Years of playing
Don’t want to spent a lot of money for on OD. But want a smooth OD sound? Get a $30 Klon clone off of Wish. Excellent build, great sound. There is a burnt orange one and a silver one. Get both! I did and love them.
Great tones and playing here John .. I was lucky enough to play through a Dumble a couple times a year for about 30 years as it was in my family.. gorgeous amp - you can see Mick Taylor review the actual amp here .. ua-cam.com/video/sKunm4Z1IXA/v-deo.html
I love the sound of all of them. The Blues breaker with slide and lapsteel is phenomenal. The Dude has that similar sound...but the Monster with both sides engaged, was the best to my ears.
I owned the Royal Overdrive and it is the best overdrive pedal i ever had. If you take some time with how to set the switches and eq you also can get it to sound like a Marshall. It’s just to big for putting it on a pedalboard….
Mason from vertex effects might not be one's cup of tea. I have his sss srv and it's a fantastic pedal. I'm not the only one to say it! The ctc unobtanium is the second super pedal that emulates 2 Dumbles, the steel string singer and the overdrive special.
So both Mayer and Ford have at least played a real dumble. Those of us that have not can we get that tone from a Katana mkii? Thanks interesting information to hear:) Do you think the Marshall and Rocket and the Jetter would all do better at a dumble sound than a Katana? Thanks PS. I see the Jetter is only so much and I like the sound from that but I already have a Katana
I think the answer is actually Fractal - Cliff actually owns a Dumble so I'd imagine his models would be infinitely closer to the Dumble tone than any pedal through a random tube amp would be?
Seeing The Dude made me think about JRAD’s Melody pedal, which is informed a bit by The Dude. Would be interesting to see your take on that one someday.
I think John Cordy is a Sound GENIUS, he could dial in a BANANA into something usable. If I had the money I would send him an Amplified Nation Steel String Singer in a heartbeat. But then he might get a Big HEAD and think he done went to HEAVEN. LOL.
The Dude sounds the best. It just has something to it the others don't (or at least in this video).
John told me to comment this: I actually think the feel of the BB is more like the Dumble that I played (one supposedly used on Continuum) than other “d-style” pedals do…
John told you this?
True story bro?
John Cordy, not John Mayer ha
Jake you own John C's BLACK Kline strat now do you not??
@@ksharpe10 Nope!
The Jetters I've tried seemed 'crushed' in the low end and 'spitty' in their highs. Should have bought a Van Weelden back when I first started looking at them years ago.
Can't go wrong with 'The Dude'. Great pedal for a decent price....and small. Great playing as usual, John.
I opted for a Gladio cornerstone for a D-style overdrive and I think the left channel (now available as a single pedal) is lovely.
While the heavier side is decent, I personally prefer less gain and the left channel provides a super sweet and delicate sound.
I’m really happy with The Dude. It sounds great through my Princeton Reverb, and through my GT-1000 CORE.
Most zen style overdrive pedals use the JRC4558 with BAT41 diodes in asymmetric configuration on the the first stage and the second stage is setup as NFB to clean up the sound and get back to a more unity gain. Now the BAT41 is a schottky diode with a very low voltage threshold before clipping the signal to ground. Lots of OD1/SD1/TS modded pedals just have a different diode setup for a different sound and feel. Best overrated example: Landgraff overdrive which uses LED's for clipping at a higher voltage making it louder and raspier. On the other hand Germanium diodes clip sooner and cut more signal, eg volume drop. Less compression versus more compression. Guess where a zen drive is on that spectrum?
Sym (ts9) vs assym (sd1) is another great comparison to train your ears. The TS style is way smoother because both sides of the signal are clipped equally. On an OD/SD1 style you get unequal clipping generating a lot more harmonics. Which you can actually hear.
Zen is assymetric. Some zen style pedals are made symmetric clippers. Some use regular higher voltage (few mV really) diodes. It is just a heritage of design from the OG OD-1 soft clipping circuit.
In short all these pedals soft clip but in different ways. They cut bass (to keep the signal usable because distortion adds harmonics), they boost the mids (most usable fq for guitar player) and tame the highs (pleasant to ear) and remove noise that would be amplified like string rubbing for example.
The Dumble amp is basically a Fender style amp with a few F ups that turned out lucky. Marshall, Mesa, Soldano to name a few started out from modified Fender circuits.
Also take note how Dumble amps are usually matched with EVs or G12-65s. Pretty different speakers.
In short it is all in the mids.
BTW van Weelden lives only a few km away.
I liked The Dude pedal the best. I have an Ultraphonix for my Dumblesque tones.
Oh my, I was exploring this topic for the whole previous week and now this pops up. Haven't watched yet, writing a comment and hitting that like button first because I know it's worth it :)
UPDATE: It WAS worth it! Thanks for the upload!
I just showed up here to hear you jam,man. I love your playing! everytime I stumble across one of your videos, I end up downstairs jamming! Try the Tubesteader Beekeeper sometime. That's my Dumblesque tone. I don't think the Dumble sound is in the actual gear, but in the hands and minds of those playing through it.
Check out the Big Bloom pedal by Amplified Nation. You might also dig their D-style amp heads 🎸🤠🎸
Badass jam JNC. Great tone. Nice video. Thanks.
The Dude is very rich sounding, and extremely versatile.
On my last D-tone hunt (in early 2022) I decided on the Gladio. I got a Dual but the SC would have been ok. The Dude came in second. Nux third. Ultraphonix last. I thankfully didn’t have to acquire a Van Weelden bc the Gladio was the sound i hear in my mind. And from Robben Ford and vintage Larry Carlton.
Something I’ve heard more recently is the Malin D-type preamp. It’s real tube preamp apparently copied exactly from a real Dumble. They’re about $1400
Great playing! Never played a Dumble but enjoyed the selection here. From how you describe the sound you prefer I think it's what I go for as well. My 'always on' is the Effectrode Blackbird (tubes 'n all!) and I have been using Paul Crowther's HotCake for decades for a bit more push - currently the Double Hotcake, which is a great 3 in 1 pedal. Both worth a look and a listen! 😊
That was the pedal KEN Fischer of Trainwreck used and said it was the best going into a Trainwreck. He was another Amp. Genius. I used to just walk past trainwreck amps in music stores little did I know I should have been checking them out back then, really touch sensitive amps. LEGENDARY.
I owned a Royal Overdrive, but |I have to admit that it turned out it wasn't what I was looking for. Great pedal, no doubt, but it (for me) was hard to dial in a good tune. Lots of interacting knobs and I'm probably more into a Plexi-like sound after all. Well, I sold it to someone that really wanted one and still is very happy! Win-win! 😆
The providence Stampede was the only pedal Dumble himself said nailed his amp tones. One was just on Reverb.
Did he really?
I just purchased a MXR Shin Juku and it’s my favorite D style pedal I’ve played.
I’ve owned the mxr too.
It’s has a unique sound, but definitely not in the Dumble arena.
I sold it and finally found the Simble. It does do a Dumble and much more. It oozes creamy thick tones.
Have you tried any of David Barber's pedals (Barber Electronics)? Specifically, the "older" Small Fry Burn Unit. Have had one for over 10 years. Will never part with it. Suggest getting one and trying it.
Hmm. Thought maybe I’d see the Vox Silk here. Reviews of it are great, but not seen in any shootouts. Just bought one and I really like it. Also very versatile.
: Blues Breaker nicest
Nice song ! - for a change - a decent song when demoing gear - Usually it's some clumsy uncoordinated wannabe -
Beautiful playing sir
I ended up with the Wampler Euphoria and I love it. My second choice was the Dude which I may still try at some point
Make a Tonex capture with the Royal 😁 with that fender amp
Have you try the kingsley juggler v3???
The Dude pedal really sings.
I am in this rabbit hole since 1982(!) - that is when I bought my first Dumble ODS clone, a Kitty Hawk. I had never heard of Dumble and actually went to the shop to pick up a Boogie MkI and the changed my mind after hearing the Kitty Hawk.
While I still have three Dumble ODS clone amps, for portability reasons I have looked into pedals / ampless rigs for quite some time. The pedals presented are great and sound like what people think a Dumble ODS sounds like - and if that is what you want, great. None of them gets the ODS clean sound right and the overdriven sound of all of them is far to smooth and lacks dynamics compared to the originals.
Not saying I found the holy grail (likely I have not), but my current ampless chain is guitar -> Tanabe Zenkudo/Dumkudo twin pedal (overdrive) -> Ethos Clean (the only pedal I have found in decades that gets the clean sound right) -> Boss IR-200 (cab loader, mainly relying on Celestion G12-65 IRs) -> FOH / DAW / FRFR.
And yes, I virtually tried everything else (Dumbloid, van Weelden, Fuchs and Amplified Nation pedals, etc.).
The next step up would be malinamplification.com/d-type-preamp/ - but since there is no version for European voltages yet, my wallet is safe for now 🙂
@@ronfrey5327 We are talking about two different things. The, allegedly 12, amps Dumble sent to the Roy bothers were not called 'clones', because they were not. Dumble shipped them to Germany without chassis and speaker to reduce customs duties. I have no idea how good or bad they were, but they were original Dumbles, even with his name on the amp. I do know that at least 4 of them are still in use in German studios after 43/44 years - I doubt that anything Fender builds today will last even 20 years.
After this initial deal ended, Kitty Hawk built around 20 Dumble ODS clones, which is what I have - they do not contain a single part provided by Dumble. They use the correct schematics and are actually very high quality, mine went thru 2 overhauls in 40 years, which I consider reasonable. The later Kitty Hawk "Standard" and "Junior" amps did still stay very close to that sound and were actually very high quality. The later series, like the Supreme, then deviated clearly from Dumbles designs and (having owned two of those) were not at all high quality. I always said that the Supreme II is the amp my neighbors love the most 😞
The big bloom
For $48 get a Joyo TaiChi! Your wife will thank you….and your ears.
I know one local player who gets Dumble Robben Ford sound from of all things an old Music Man combo amp from the late 70's or early 80's. There are Lots of Clone companys out there, who have torn apart Dumbles and looked at components, so it is not some, particularly special thing Alex did, Heck Ken Fischer was another guy who just used the best available to do his particular thing. Some think the TRAINwreck was the ultimate. I notice one thing about doing/using a modeller, one starts to dial in what one wants to get out of whatever amp. was selected, that was what I noticed about what I was doing with one, John with your playing you can make just about any amp. into John N. Cordy sound. And or any modelller tonex, helix, etc. Thanks for doing reviews though.
I use a music man as well, I get it by setting that clean and use a tubesteader Beekeeper. I don't know if it "nails " the sound but I definitely like the sound and topography of the"clean" channel cascading into the overdrive side.
@@tconnell1121 I just checked out that BeeKeeper, An astoundingly Great pedal. You probably do KNOW this, with that pedal because it uses 2 12ax7 tubes in it, what it is doing is replacing the FACT that the MusicMan amps has a solid state preamp, now the Beekeeper is the Preamp going into. It is emulating a DUMBLE preamp into a clean Fender style amp. JUST like Dumble style Amps. do. It is DUMBLE on the CHEAP, i like it. The over drive pedal I think is the no. 1 right now would be DSM Humboldt Silver Linings, Without any tubes in it, it just covers every type pedal I have ever heard, Watch Brett Kingmans video on it here on UA-cam, it blew me away. I would move the pedal you just told me to the no. 2 position, because it Does seem like a great way to go for the D on the cheap. The old no.2 would most likely be that Duelist pedal and or a Gladio, I also like because of the Magnatone Sound the Memphis pedal. I have been able thru my Old Vox Tonelab SE been able to emulate most all the pedals so far that I have Heard. And of Course we watch John Cordy dial in what looks like it would be impossible, and he is doing it mainly with a HELIX, which is Phenomenal. Me I have been learning watching his videos how to get his playing phrasing and techniques down, he is a PLAYER beyond what he THINKS of HIMSELF. HE KNOWS his stuff, I would HIRE him in a BAND anyDAY of ANY WEEK. Oh, I do not know what pedal the Local guy could be using, but it has been 10 years since I saw him do Talk to Your Daughter, I would guess some kind of Tubescreamer style, or like the Left side of the Silver LInings DSM, type pedal, Maybe that Blue one, blues driver, that is a pedal that has been out since the 80's. Thanks for the tip about the BeeKeeper/nice pedal!!!!
Yay another dumble pedal shoot out , but in all seriousness i enjoy these intros so much , one of these days I'm a play a dumble by breaking into John Mayer's house and playing it while he's asleep although I don't know how much dumble tone im going to get playing it at low volume , your job now is to tell me how much tone I'ma get at low volumes while John Mayer's asleep go go go !
You'll get 35% of the tone.
In all seriousness, one of the things Robben said about his Dumble was that the tone didn't change much from quieter to louder volumes....
@@johnnathancordy hmm the only thing I can think of then is it has some sort of flux compactor which means you have to play the amp at 88 miles an hour , but I don't know if I can steal his amp attach it to a stolen delorian then drive 88 miles an hour all while trying to get the perfect tone of said amp , sounds like a fun drunken night though , CNN breaking news , drunken man kidnaps old man and holds him hostage at gun point screaming keep the car at 88 while plugging in red es 335 and blerching the perfect tone man the perfect tone , in all seriousness must have some sort of thing in the tone stack that allows for no loss of highs or lows in volume , which I guess makes it special ? I don't know I haven't played one ..yet..
Love from India....Always satisfied listening to you, By the way how do you track your drums in those backing tracks??
BB sounded best to me.
I’m not sure about Robben Ford ever using a Tubescreamer in front of a Fender blackface Bassman amp. As far as I know, Robben’s “Bassman era” was the early-1970’s, years before Ibanez first introduced the TS-808 pedal. I think Mr. Dumble was basing the early ODS sound on just a cranked Bassman, with no pedals. Those amps, BTW, can achieve a significantly more overdriven, medium gain blues/rock tone than the reverb-equipped Fender combo amps of that era, mainly due to having a simpler preamp circuit which doesn’t lose gain from reverb and vibrato effects circuitry as with the combo amps.
I own the dude and absolutely love it. If you have the Chance, try it in the low Input of a 2203 JCM with Volume around 7 .... sounds killer with a strat at a reasonable Volume! Another take away after almost every JNC Video: He sounds great and has superb Tone with every single piece of gear he uses ... ;) Nothing new i know but it still amazes me even after 30+ Years of playing
Do you still add stuff to the "shut up I'm driving" playlist? Some of these takes definitely belong there
Don’t want to spent a lot of money for on OD. But want a smooth OD sound? Get a $30 Klon clone off of Wish.
Excellent build, great sound. There is a burnt orange one and a silver one. Get both! I did and love them.
Thanks for this excellent demo/comparison. Beautiful, tasteful playing! ☮️☮️
Great tones and playing here John .. I was lucky enough to play through a Dumble a couple times a year for about 30 years as it was in my family.. gorgeous amp - you can see Mick Taylor review the actual amp here .. ua-cam.com/video/sKunm4Z1IXA/v-deo.html
The Simble....
It does do a Dumble and much more. It oozes creamy thick tones.
It’s out of production, so you’ll loose have to pay up fro it used.
I love the sound of all of them. The Blues breaker with slide and lapsteel is phenomenal. The Dude has that similar sound...but the Monster with both sides engaged, was the best to my ears.
I owned the Royal Overdrive and it is the best overdrive pedal i ever had.
If you take some time with how to set the switches and eq you also can get it to sound like a Marshall.
It’s just to big for putting it on a pedalboard….
I keep forgetting which pedal to use ;-)
YES spotted!
Mason from vertex effects might not be one's cup of tea. I have his sss srv and it's a fantastic pedal. I'm not the only one to say it! The ctc unobtanium is the second super pedal that emulates 2 Dumbles, the steel string singer and the overdrive special.
So both Mayer and Ford have at least played a real dumble. Those of us that have not can we get that tone from a Katana mkii? Thanks interesting information to hear:) Do you think the Marshall and Rocket and the Jetter would all do better at a dumble sound than a Katana? Thanks PS. I see the Jetter is only so much and I like the sound from that but I already have a Katana
Kingsley Juggler. Thats all I can say - a tube based ODS Preamp channel... Have my order in.
I’am surprised no one hasn’t mentioned the Big Bloom pedal. One person did say something! LoL 😆 I checked it out here and it sounds pretty good.
All are great pedals but obvs we all run into limitations with how close a pedal can get to sounding “like a different amp” has been turned on.
The Dude has been my go to for that sound, but the ones i am most keen to try are the Gladio and the Unobtanium
joyo taichi
I have one! Nice
thanks for this video John. to get close to this dumble sound would you prefer one of these pedals or a Helix or QC modeler ?
I think the answer is actually Fractal - Cliff actually owns a Dumble so I'd imagine his models would be infinitely closer to the Dumble tone than any pedal through a random tube amp would be?
Seeing The Dude made me think about JRAD’s Melody pedal, which is informed a bit by The Dude. Would be interesting to see your take on that one someday.
The Melody has featured on the channel if you do some digging, it's a bit lower gain than the Dude I think
I think John Cordy is a Sound GENIUS, he could dial in a BANANA into something usable. If I had the money I would send him an Amplified Nation Steel String Singer in a heartbeat. But then he might get a Big HEAD and think he done went to HEAVEN. LOL.
If you've got the money...A Malin D type preamp is probably going to get you to a real Dumble sound.
Two words: Menatone Howie
Fantastic playing as always.
The UNOBTANIUM by Crazy Tube Circuits and the debate is over, thank me later. #notsponsoredwisdom
Makes it sound sponsored that
Agreed. I have an Unobtanium and love it!
Ultraphonix Vertex effects! It's amazing.
That's a zendrive circuit for those looking for non-vertex options!
No Vertex Effects SSS?
Just a boost pedal
@@johnnathancordy Somewhere Mason is saying "just?!? Rig Doctor angry!!! Smash smash smash! No solderless cables smash smash!!!!"