It's funny that this simulation is brand new and still completely wrong. When the Estonia sank she capsized to about 180°. Not just 90°. There is even proof of this, one of the passengers had a camera in his pocket and tried to use the Flash to signal nearby ships to the scene. By doing so he accidentally took a photo of a passenger sitting on the hull near the propellers and rudder, provning that the ship had capsized completely
This must've been nightmarishly scary, Titanic went down in about 2 hours, this ship went to the bottom of the ocean within 40 minutes. That's just unimaginable. Something so gigantic just disappearing in thin air. God Bless all those souls.
M/s Esatonia is actualy biggest peacetime catastrophy in baltic sea but sadly in baltic sea also happaned biggest marinetime dissaster of all time, sinking of Willhelm Gustolf losing 10k lives
I've had nightmares of this accident, even though me, neither anyone I know weren't involved. I was a kid when this happened, but only as an adult I've come to realise how fucking horrible this was.
well the ships lights were still blaring i guess it had an indoor blackout, not judging off the animation but the ms mariella reported seeing lights to its port side even being able to make out the estonia and saying it had a 45 degree list (this was midway through its mayday call) but it disappeared off ships radar when it was only listing to 90 degrees
can you imagine how terrible it must have felt to feel the ship give way, it going all dark as that cold water made its way into the ship? Seeing nothing with the power out, not knowing where to go what to do, before finally accepting it? those poor souls
Scary and sad story of this little ship, it was the pride of Estline and pride of Estonia's shipping after the breakup of the Soviet union. It was also the biggest ship in the Estonia's fleet. But, big waves and a faulty design made it to sink on 28.9.1994. R.I.P to those who died.
It's a pretty common practice on RORO ferries, and there are many that have worked totally fine for many many years. They need to be built properly though.
RORO ferries are built to accommodate automobiles, yes, but Estonia wasn’t equipped with an emergency watertight bulkhead behind her loading ramp doors, which were exposed to the rough seas when the bow visor was torn off. At the time of the disaster, it was a recommended safety feature but not a legally-required one in most countries. The loss of Estonia and most of her passengers and crew changed that. It’s sad it often takes horrific tragedy for safety features that already exist to be implemented, such as proper numbers of lifeboats finally being required by law after Titanic.
Bleeding Eye Watcher I also heard that she was badly maintained? And the design flaws of the bridge and systems where the crew on the bridge didn't notice/know the bow visor had been torn off. Also estonia is speeding in pretty high speed during that night which she wasn't built for that kind of condition or I'm mistaken here?
-137 survived -850 died It took only 35minutes after accident when Eastonia was full under water. Its lying 80meters deep in the bottom of the sea. Now Estonia is "credited" as underwater tomb, so we have now permission to pick it up or visit there.
Stuff of nightmares. Imagine trying to escape that damn thing with a 30+ degree tilt, people and stuff falling all over the place, maybe not knowing where your relatives are. Very chilling Rest in peace all who perished ✞
I cannot comment on this accident or commercial shipping or this crew (may they rest in peace) but with superyachts etc. crews qualifications the RYA Oceanmaster is often considered the gold standard. I did that course myself a few years ago and it had very little to do with practical "seamanship" and everything to do with parroting COREG's (and only then in perfect weather). Ask one of those so called qualified skippers what to do if your boat starts taking on water or your engine fails on a lee shore at night and they haven't got a clue. The very first principle of seamanship should be keeping everyone safe, particularly when things start to go wrong - not memorizing rarely seen nav lght combinations. I am half way round a global circumnavigation in a small boat and all the skills that keep me safe i learnt off old salts, not in a classroom.
No when the Estonia turned onto it side at 1:32 am, then at around 1:40 am the Estonia was upside down and at 1:48 am the Estonia went under. P.S try watching Zero hour sinking of the Estonia.
It was fully upside down, no towers just the blue waterline, because there are images taken by a survivor trying to signal nearby ships. Also it didn't tower since the ship is longer than the depth of the Baltic sea.
I have been watching a lot of media about the Estonia as they are re investigating it as of Oct 2020 however Tammes (third mate in radio recordings) reported they were in blackout within first 5 minutes of the mayday not at the end. The ship also capsized to 90o.
The government in Finland and Estonia have now (2020) decided to investigate what really caused the disaster. The Swedish DDR 2.0. government says no because they do not want the truth to be public.
Carl Eric Reintamm did arrive the promenade deck 1 till 2 minutes after the loud 2 or 3 bangs that happened between ca. kl. 01.02 or 01.05. According to JAIC the bow visor fell of the ship around kl. 01.16. So the 2-3 big bangs, water on deck 1, and the following starboard listing did happen ca. 10-15 minutes before the separation of the bow visor! That is pretty strange, because that means that the sekvens of happenings did indeed start approximum 12-15 minutes before the car ramp could have let all the water inn on the car deck. That brings the questions on why the water came in on deck 1, and why the ship listed before the ramp fell down and the visor separated from the ship !? Reintamm did see something in the water that left the ship backwards to the left app. 10 minutes before the separation of the bow visor. Assuming that Reintamm looked backwards to the left from starboard promenade deck point of view, the thing in the water most likely could have hit the starboard side of the ship before the separation of the visor, and the opening of the ramp. If Reintamm speaks truth it clearly proves without any shadow of a doubt that the specific time of the the 2-3 loud bangs, the inlet of the water on deck 1, followed by the with 30 degrees starboard listing a few minutes later, that this sekvens of events clearly happened before the separation of the visor and the downfall of the ramp........
I've watched some documentaries on this, and even if the bridge couldn't see that the bow was completely open to the water, it seems weird to me that they didn't have any sort of back-up water-tight compartments between the car deck and the passenger decks. Even weirder is the fact that nobody came to acknowledge the damage that had been done to the ship untill alot of people started dying. If anyone has any information on how ro-ro ferries are built, please reply to this comment! :-)
+Karl XIV Johan The ship wasn't built for harsh weather like that. Even though the Baltic Sea is relatively calm, this ship was more of an coastal ship. Also they had way too much speed considering the weather and the ship. The shipyard which built the ship also got a lot of criticism for not building a watertight bulkhead behind the visor even though many other ships built before estonia had one. So basically it was not built for the conditions it faced on the open sea and it was operated totally wrong considering its capabilities.
People with knowledge about boats know that a ship with that size has alot of air pockets. It wont sink in more or less 40 min without a hole emptying the air.. The other ferry that was exactly the same as estonia, was floating upside down for days. Other thing is, before they even had dived to have a look, they had almost closed the case and said it was the visor. That alone should tell you something.
Correct me if Im wrong but if cardeck is flooded how can she still sink to the seabed? Shouldnt she just remain upside down or was there another hole?.... RIP Estonia.
No, Because the water filled inside is heavier, So the cars are probably I don’t know... But all I know that the water filled inside is heavier than the cars
Luckily, from all of those sinking ship accidents, we have learned. May we just thank the people that sacrificed them selfes in those ships just to teach us
The captain wanted to use the wind to help upright the ship. There were no alarms in the cockpit area to who that the front door had come off and it was impossible for them to see, so the crew members didn't know the ship was taking in water.
Without a hole on the bottom the boat will under no circumstances sink that fast . Reason for the sinking of Estonia was made possibe becouse a hole and nothing else meaning this simulation gives false information that was allready publicly told before investigators eaven knew where the boat is
aaro12 mistäs päättelet että se on tienny mitään kallistumasta tai mistään ennen kuin ollu liian myöhästä. Ei sieltä ohjaamosta voi tietää ja nähdä mitään
Ship last words "todella pahalta näyttää*
*It's really bad now"
Ootko suomalainen?
Rinaldo Kiissa the last words are ”It’s really bad now” cause it has been confirmed.
@@whyismaltehere No it wasnt. Listen to the radio audio. Last words was coordinate confirmation right after "its really bad" part
Rinaldo Kiissa The last words were "Todella pahalta näyttää"
The last words were:It was clear what you said
It's funny that this simulation is brand new and still completely wrong. When the Estonia sank she capsized to about 180°. Not just 90°. There is even proof of this, one of the passengers had a camera in his pocket and tried to use the Flash to signal nearby ships to the scene. By doing so he accidentally took a photo of a passenger sitting on the hull near the propellers and rudder, provning that the ship had capsized completely
Finn Rudebeck The guy with the camera, he’s my dad’s colleague. I’ve seen those original photos.
Teddemeister really now? Who was he?
The Emerald Men Official Oh I don’t remember. I was 8 or 9 at the time. I am Swedish and he lived here but he might have had some other nationality.
The guy with the camera was named Mikael Öun
@@Teddemeister Sounds amazing! Are these photos shared somewhere?
This must've been nightmarishly scary, Titanic went down in about 2 hours, this ship went to the bottom of the ocean within 40 minutes. That's just unimaginable. Something so gigantic just disappearing in thin air. God Bless all those souls.
MS Estonia was sunk in middle of Baltic sea, so terrifying
The sea was so calm during the titanic sinking which helped but over here it wasn't the case
Well how bout lusitania, that was only 18 minutes
M/s Esatonia is actualy biggest peacetime catastrophy in baltic sea but sadly in baltic sea also happaned biggest marinetime dissaster of all time, sinking of Willhelm Gustolf losing 10k lives
Edmund Fitzgerald:
I've had nightmares of this accident, even though me, neither anyone I
know weren't involved. I was a kid when this happened, but only as an
adult I've come to realise how fucking horrible this was.
In the first mayday radio transmissions the crew said they had blackout and 20-30 degrees list. In This simulation it seems the blackout came last.
well the ships lights were still blaring i guess it had an indoor blackout, not judging off the animation but the ms mariella reported seeing lights to its port side even being able to make out the estonia and saying it had a 45 degree list (this was midway through its mayday call) but it disappeared off ships radar when it was only listing to 90 degrees
Blackout is when the engine is out, not the lights
Ever try to photograph a ship in a storm on a dark night that didn't have its electric lights on? Very difficult to see anything.
can you imagine how terrible it must have felt to feel the ship give way, it going all dark as that cold water made its way into the ship? Seeing nothing with the power out, not knowing where to go what to do, before finally accepting it? those poor souls
Scary and sad story of this little ship, it was the pride of Estline and pride of Estonia's shipping after the breakup of the Soviet union. It was also the biggest ship in the Estonia's fleet. But, big waves and a faulty design made it to sink on 28.9.1994. R.I.P to those who died.
The way the bow tip is detachable seems like a fatal design flaw.
It's a pretty common practice on RORO ferries, and there are many that have worked totally fine for many many years. They need to be built properly though.
The last ferry i went on had a different design the doors were inside the bow and opened like doors.. none of that Raising Visor stuff..
RORO ferries are built to accommodate automobiles, yes, but Estonia wasn’t equipped with an emergency watertight bulkhead behind her loading ramp doors, which were exposed to the rough seas when the bow visor was torn off. At the time of the disaster, it was a recommended safety feature but not a legally-required one in most countries. The loss of Estonia and most of her passengers and crew changed that. It’s sad it often takes horrific tragedy for safety features that already exist to be implemented, such as proper numbers of lifeboats finally being required by law after Titanic.
Bleeding Eye Watcher I also heard that she was badly maintained? And the design flaws of the bridge and systems where the crew on the bridge didn't notice/know the bow visor had been torn off. Also estonia is speeding in pretty high speed during that night which she wasn't built for that kind of condition or I'm mistaken here?
Nullik wrong. Her sistership had had the same problem with the visor a year earlier
-137 survived
-850 died
It took only 35minutes after accident when Eastonia was full under water.
Its lying 80meters deep in the bottom of the sea.
Now Estonia is "credited" as underwater tomb, so we have now permission to pick it up or visit there.
Baron Basparro ツ actually 138 survived and 856 died
actually nobody has permission to visit there on the ship at the bottom of the sea
not even stalin would have permission to visit there
It was 852
@@emperor_msk no 852
Probably only around 840 died...
Hyvä simulaatio, mutta olis saanut olla hiukan hitaammin.
Niinpä
Nii, mut onneks tän videon nopeutta voi säätää
My grandfather is one of the survivors of this disaster
Thats really cool (and sad)
R.I.P
M/S
ESTONIA
Stuff of nightmares. Imagine trying to escape that damn thing with a 30+ degree tilt, people and stuff falling all over the place, maybe not knowing where your relatives are. Very chilling
Rest in peace all who perished ✞
They're death traps.
501 from sweden died that night 😢
Fun fact: The ship was actually Finnish
??
It was made in Germany.
@@k1Llas but it was finnish
@@k1Llas at first
@@That1Guineapig. The Owners were Finnish, and the Builders were German
I cannot comment on this accident or commercial shipping or this crew (may they rest in peace) but with superyachts etc. crews qualifications the RYA Oceanmaster is often considered the gold standard. I did that course myself a few years ago and it had very little to do with practical "seamanship" and everything to do with parroting COREG's (and only then in perfect weather). Ask one of those so called qualified skippers what to do if your boat starts taking on water or your engine fails on a lee shore at night and they haven't got a clue. The very first principle of seamanship should be keeping everyone safe, particularly when things start to go wrong - not memorizing rarely seen nav lght combinations. I am half way round a global circumnavigation in a small boat and all the skills that keep me safe i learnt off old salts, not in a classroom.
I like how all of these eyewitnesses are telling you how it sank.
The finns operated her for about 10 years as 'Viking Sally', sold her to Estlink (swedish-estonian company) which renamed her 'Estonia'.
The Sea is a Harsh Mistress.
From today there was 25 years since Estonia sank
Man.
Even if The Estonia disaster have happened for years ago its still speaking about it
Actually before it sank it was upside down. But otherwise realistic video. Really great!
She never was up side down...
Nope.
That’s not correct, if that was the case no persons would be able to escape?
Ain’t it just fucking crazy that they found quite a bit of traces of radiation on the wreck?
Source?
@@SwissMarksman they talked about it in a documentary, a couple divers went down there and found traces of radiation.
No when the Estonia turned onto it side at 1:32 am, then at around 1:40 am the Estonia was upside down and at 1:48 am the Estonia went under. P.S try watching Zero hour sinking of the Estonia.
It was fully upside down, no towers just the blue waterline, because there are images taken by a survivor trying to signal nearby ships. Also it didn't tower since the ship is longer than the depth of the Baltic sea.
Tämä video kertoo selkeästi kuinka Estonia upposi 20 vuotta sitten. Kiitoksia tästä!
Was that some kind of collision sound they put in at around 0:16? Sounds like one. I'm glad they put that in.
no. it was the banging of the visor, probably some of the locks breaking
I hope, Estline or Viking Lines learned from this accident.
Also, the way the bow broke off was amazing.
Two ships have that visor still. But its alot safer. And Estline has been bought
saanko tekstittää että nämä mietiskelevät ulkomaalaisetkin tajuuvat??
Ei varmaan tarvi kysyä ku hs:n videon ladannu tänne ni ei ole oma joten anna palaa 😁
I have been watching a lot of media about the Estonia as they are re investigating it as of Oct 2020 however Tammes (third mate in radio recordings) reported they were in blackout within first 5 minutes of the mayday not at the end. The ship also capsized to 90o.
Should be slowed down about 5-10x and capsize fully before the foundering. That's 180°... People were sitting on the keel before she disappeared.
According to the memoirs of a russian helicopter pilot, the ferry was sinking with lights - spare generators were working.
Emergency lights turned on after the engineers in the engine room left abd escaped the ship. It only went out when it was fully upside down.
MS "Estonia" everything is in Finnish
should it be called M/S Viro then??? It's M/S Estonia in Finland and in Estonia.
Well the radio guy was actually estonian but the guy on silja europa wasn't so the estonian guy spoke finnish
The government in Finland and Estonia have now (2020) decided to investigate what really caused the disaster.
The Swedish DDR 2.0. government says no because they do not want the truth to be public.
Carl Eric Reintamm did arrive the promenade deck 1 till 2 minutes after the loud 2 or 3 bangs that happened between ca. kl. 01.02 or 01.05.
According to JAIC the bow visor fell of the ship around kl. 01.16.
So the 2-3 big bangs, water on deck 1, and the following starboard listing did happen ca. 10-15 minutes before the separation of the bow visor!
That is pretty strange, because that means that the sekvens of happenings did indeed start approximum 12-15 minutes before the car ramp could have let all the water inn on the car deck.
That brings the questions on why the water came in on deck 1, and why the ship listed before the ramp fell down and the visor separated from the ship !?
Reintamm did see something in the water that left the ship backwards to the left app. 10 minutes before the separation of the bow visor.
Assuming that Reintamm looked backwards to the left from starboard promenade deck point of view, the thing in the water most likely could have hit the starboard side of the ship before the separation of the visor, and the opening of the ramp.
If Reintamm speaks truth it clearly proves without any shadow of a doubt that the specific time of the the 2-3 loud bangs, the inlet of the water on deck 1, followed by the with 30 degrees starboard listing a few minutes later, that this sekvens of events clearly happened before the separation of the visor and the downfall of the ramp........
båten estonia äe bäst det är tråkit att estonia har drunknad
I've watched some documentaries on this, and even if the bridge couldn't see that the bow was completely open to the water, it seems weird to me that they didn't have any sort of back-up water-tight compartments between the car deck and the passenger decks. Even weirder is the fact that nobody came to acknowledge the damage that had been done to the ship untill alot of people started dying.
If anyone has any information on how ro-ro ferries are built, please reply to this comment! :-)
+Karl XIV Johan The ship wasn't built for harsh weather like that. Even though the Baltic Sea is relatively calm, this ship was more of an coastal ship. Also they had way too much speed considering the weather and the ship. The shipyard which built the ship also got a lot of criticism for not building a watertight bulkhead behind the visor even though many other ships built before estonia had one.
So basically it was not built for the conditions it faced on the open sea and it was operated totally wrong considering its capabilities.
The water didn't even get to the passenger Decks. Only 10 cm of water on the car Deck can capsize the entire ship
Thank you all so much! :D
People with knowledge about boats know that a ship with that size has alot of air pockets. It wont sink in more or less 40 min without a hole emptying the air.. The other ferry that was exactly the same as estonia, was floating upside down for days. Other thing is, before they even had dived to have a look, they had almost closed the case and said it was the visor. That alone should tell you something.
but why did the visor break off? Even if it was not the cause of the sinking, it broke off.
it's my favourite Video
the ship didn't sank on side it sank upsidedown
Now this is 27 years..
The Estonia is made in germany 🇩🇪
Voi vittu! (wtf)
That's so cool :) Iove the ship Estonia, and Iknow how sank this ship.
The Mayday Call Was Speaking English And Findland and Sweden
Im Estonian. Simulation in finnish. 9_6
Correct me if Im wrong but if cardeck is flooded how can she still sink to the seabed? Shouldnt she just remain upside down or was there another hole?.... RIP Estonia.
No, Because the water filled inside is heavier, So the cars are probably I don’t know...
But all I know that the water filled inside is heavier than the cars
the port-holes shattered
She had no chance To survive
Why is the ship steady in such big waves?
And the sinking is so wrong...
Luckily, from all of those sinking ship accidents, we have learned. May we just thank the people that sacrificed them selfes in those ships just to teach us
It did not sink like that, it flipped upside down and when the bow was half way to the sea floor, it flipped sideways
It first tilted in degrees then when it tilted to much yes it flipped upside down but it did not do it directly.
hyvä Estonia!🥰🥳
Tää on yks karuimmista asioista mitä oon kuullu
We feel deeply that the real reason is hidden. There are so many things that has not been answered!
kyostim What do you think has not been answered?
Everything, like where is Avo Piht?
Just because you feel it doesn’t mean it’s true...
Some head asses thought a sub ramed it 🤦♂️
yeah, i dont believe these conspiracy theory like the sub one
Exactly in the middle of sea exactly in the middle of the night...its more than strange
Veljeni oli siella auttamassa, laskettiin helikopterista lautalle muta kaikki oli jo kuolleet...
Good
The sea is a cruel mistress.
Jos alusta olisi käännetty oikealle olisiko se auttanut?
My mom's cousin died in Estonia :/
Tulee vain mieleen että miten kauan elivät ne ihmiset jotka jäivät laivan sisälle kun se vajosi sinne 80 metriin? Kauankohan siellä riittää happea?
Rumblingbelly Ei sinne jää mitään ilmaloukkuja. Paitsi autokannen allaoleville he kohtasivat helvetin.
Rumblingbelly mun laskelmien mukaan 24 minuuttia
Voi vain kuvitella jos on autokannen alhaalla. Näkee että vettä on tulossa alas portaita ja ei pääse ulos.
This was made on my 6th birthday
So u were using UA-cam underage? I am pretty sure that's against terms of service, I'm handing you in, your going down punk
0:40 Why the captain continued move the ship ? It helped sinking faster.
StarCoFanatic So he couldn't see the huge amounts of water that was getting in the ship because of it was still moving?
The captain wanted to use the wind to help upright the ship. There were no alarms in the cockpit area to who that the front door had come off and it was impossible for them to see, so the crew members didn't know the ship was taking in water.
Elliot Chen there is not a cockpit on a ship, only a helm, wheelhouse or bridge.
Vois pyytää viel viking LINE apun
tuossa menehtyi hyvin paljon ihmisiä mutta aivan jörkyttävän hyvä video.Kiitos Estonia kun olit maailmassa mutta en nää sinua koskaan! :((
Ei sua ees ollu sillon ku toi upposi.
Mitä vällii ku en oo oikeestikaa nähny estoniia.
Julia Kokkonen
Juu ei mitn
did you peoples know that estonia blowed horn underwater too
Wait WHAT?
Without a hole on the bottom the boat will under no circumstances sink that fast . Reason for the sinking of Estonia was made possibe becouse a hole and nothing else meaning this simulation gives false information that was allready publicly told before investigators eaven knew where the boat is
True
INTENSE.
O_o
ma oon kaunu tos laivas mut se oli vigin line silloin elikka vigin sally
No nyt kirjoitus ei onnistunut
Tarkoitat varmasti: Mä oon käynyt Tossa laivassa mutta se oli Viking line silloin elikkä Viking sally
Virgin line :D
Where did you get that map at the beginning? Its completely wrong XD
Förjävligt !
but who took off the railings of the loading ramp?
Im Filipino and u didnt add subtitles so i can't understand
🙄
you can understand from what's going on in the video
im also filipino, i literally became interested in this sinking, so thats okay to me if its in foreign language (finnish)
why did u stop uploading
Realistic
Estonia is gonna tip
O Poseidon da vida real
How did you create this?
+Johannes Lastikka he took it from Hs.fi
Zerebox Oh thank you.
Why u don’t post anymore vids
Unrealistic.
Roses are red
Violet are blue
The title is English...
(You should know what comes next)
Wilber Pang Roses are red, Water is blue, The Title is English, we trusted you.
WRONG.....
i Live in estonia :D (Not in that ship).. :D
+Petrik Saks But his age is something about 9-10, he doesn't understand anything about Estonia. I think so, because he just joking here
GT. DoomXP you don't mean you live on the ship you mean you live estonia country or am wrong?
Sama
the map is right not wrong
:(
there was major coverup
tinfoil hat?
KuriVaiM o
Propane Tank Then you are livin under a rock.
El hundimiento del ms estonia
Miksi helvetissä estonian kapteeni käänsi alusta vasemmalle kun alus kallistuu oikealle
aaro12 mistäs päättelet että se on tienny mitään kallistumasta tai mistään ennen kuin ollu liian myöhästä. Ei sieltä ohjaamosta voi tietää ja nähdä mitään
Siis se kaatu vasemalle
Kapteeni yritti kääntää laivaa että se kaatuu suoraan alloista, niin kuin miten Poseidon laiva siitä elokuvasta kaatui kun aalto osui sen sivuun.
Mayday Mayday
Didnt Estonia flip all the way? Lol
To u hate my country?
I’m sure she is encased in concrete, ?????
hey why you can not get to download M / S Estonia to the VSF or vs simulator I would love to get to run this ship in the simulator
This is not VSF or V Simulator it's just a animation showing the sinking
Well oof
Miksi kapteeni käänsi alusta vasemmalle sehän edesauttoi kallistumista ja kaatumista...?
Kapteeni yritti kääntää vasemmalle koska silloin tuuli joka touna yönä oli erittäin kova, olisi voinut nostaa aluksen ylös
The explosions have not been taken into account at all
There was no explosions on the MS Estonia witch means that the Explosion theory is false
plubs plubs
its estonian ship and germans build it
mun faija on ollu tos laivas ku se oli viel viking line mut mu mutsin kaveri kuoli tos :(
What? 🤨
I from Estonia
Why are you always send the fake news????
paljon ihmisä kuoli
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