How to Purify Water Part 2 | IODINE - CHLORINE - CHLORFLOC | Survival Training | Tactical Rifleman
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- Опубліковано 28 лип 2016
- In our first water purification video, I tried to cover all the different techniques for purifying water. We covered everything from Boiling to UV Light. However, when I got to chemical treatment, there were just so many different types on the market that I couldn’t hit them all in that one video. So, for this video, we are focusing just on chemical treatment. There are actually lots of options out there. The old Iodine tablets have been improved. There’s the Chor-Flox that the military is now issuing. Then, there are the multiple different ways to employ Chlorine. I cover the pros and cons of each. Which way is best? Nope, don’t go there. Ask “Which way is best for me?” I say that, because everyone has different situations and preferences. Taste alone, may steer certain people in certain directions.
I talked fast in the video, and didn’t cover it very well. So, I wanted to talk a little more about the proper use of Calcium Hypochlorite or “Pool Shock”, as it is a great way to treat large amounts of water for your home (think Hurricane Katrina). While I don’t think it is great for backpacking; it is the best method I have found for long-term treatment and a large scale. A lot of people plan on using household bleach, if they are ever faced with a long-term situation (again, think Katrina). The problem with bleach, is it only has a 6 month shelf life, and is just nasty to work with. You can store Pool Shock damn near indefinitely, and it takes much less space. That said, you still need to store it away from your food or other gear (it gives off a slight gas), and it takes a bit of mixing to get the proper concentration for treatment. However, if you are willing to do it properly, you’ll see this is a great technique to keep in your mental toolbox. Here are some notes:
Using granular Calcium Hypochlorite to disinfect water is a two-step process
Note: Mix only in a Plastic or Glass container, NOT METAL!!
Step-1: Make a stock of liquid chlorine solution
· dissolve 1 heaping teaspoon of Calcium hypochlorite in two(2) gallons of water
Step-2: Disinfect Water
· Add one part of the liquid chlorine solution to 100 parts water to be treated;
· Let sit for 30 minutes before use
Example: Add 6oz of liquid solution to treat 4.75 gallons of Water in a five gallon bucket. (4.75 gallons = 608 oz of water)
A 1-pound bag of 70% calcium hypochlorite in granular form (pool shock) will treat up to 10,000 gallons of drinking water. That’s a lot of water for your family to live off of. Again, this is a great technique to keep in your mental toolbox. Knowledge is power. Knowledge can be your best tool.
So, enjoy the video and let me know which water treatment techniques you prefer or if you have anything that you think I have left out. I’m always looking for new techniques. What’s in your Bag? What’s in your Plan? Share your ideas and opinions. Don’t have an opinion? Maybe you need to get outside and get one. Don’t rely on the internet. You need to get out there. You need to get some real training. Don’t know where? Let me know, and I’ll point you in the right direction. Strength and Honor.
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On backpacking trips in Boy Scouts we'd bring kool aid packets, to add after the requisite 30 minutes, to cover the iodine taste. Depending on what powdered drink mix you bring along (kool aid, gatorade, emergen-c, etc...) it can also be a good way to get some vitamins, minerals and electrolytes.
Ahhh that’s funny I was thinking what you guys did I was thinking bring some lemon or something to add some flavor to the nasty water ahaha good idea with the coolaid
The proof is in the pudding, the water pudding, and you drank(or chewed) it !
Great vid!
Yours is my new favorite channel, I've watched just about every vid.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and for your Service.
Great video...very informative.
Chlorine or iodine, after filtration, using activated charcoal (aquarium shops for those who don't know how to make their own) to catch the heavy metals and a pinch added after the chemicals making it a tad more palatable.
My own favourite, however, is potassium manganate.
A few crystals purifies water (turns it pink to purple), which can be used for drinking, sterilising wounds, dressings, etc.
Keeps boots and clothing smelling fresh and can also be used with glycerine or sugar, as a fire starter.
A bottle as small as your eyedropper would last for months.
That's great information to add to the collective. I've never heard of those techniques, I'm going to have to check um out!!🤜🤛🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thank you for your service to our great country. Excellent overview of water treatment methods. Your video was a big help in choosing what to include in my kids EDC bags which are kept in a closet inside each classroom for an unexpected emergency. We had planned kits for each child at the beginning of every school year school year which starts in June in the Philippines. Begining this year, a basic kit is now required by the DepEd (Department of Education) which we were pleased to see happen. It appears getting prepared for the unexpected is trendy these days.
man you are so good at this thanks
Excellent subject and coverage of it. Thank you!
Great great video! Thanks again Karl
I finished a two year course on water quality but still think this is very relevant information. Thanks my war fighting friend !
Just found your channel today, it's nice. One thing I love, and think is highly effective, yet a largely unknown piece of kit is a Millbank Bag. It's a tightly woven canvas bag that pre-filters water prior to whatever method is finally used to filter or purify. It was used by the British military. They are currently not issued, and few remain on the surplus market. There is a company that is reproducing it. It's called the Brown Filter Bag or just simply the Brown Bag. It can be used like the bag you used to dip water from the creek, nice big open mouth. It's then hung up and gravity drips into a container. It can be kind of slow, but unlike most every prefilter (and it is only a prefiler) that I know of for the big commercial units, all one has to do is wash it and it's good to go for next time. It will last nearly a lifetime. I use mine as the actual "bag" that all my water kit goes into.
Tip - sachet is pronounced sashay, like in the old square dance calls. Reminds me of sabot's "sabot" instead of "sabo", and cashe's "cashay" instead of "cash".
Just hacking on you guys, thanks!
I also think that filtration is important to do along with treatment. You can buy new aftermarket millbank bags but personally I don't find them very effective compared to a hand filter. They are pretty cheap though.
Generally what I personally do is have two containers, clean water bag, and an expandable dirty water bag. This way you can collect water fast and filter then treat it later in a safer location.
Panty hose works OK in a pinch. Not the best, but better than nothing. No weight and simple to stow.
Thank you I needed part 2 haha you guys are good ty
Good to see you again
this channel is awesome
Very good ideas. Thank you very much
Thank you!
Also, you bring up a real good point about waiting four hours after a hike for a drink. I went on a week outing with some guys a while ago, and this one guy wouldn't even wait a couple of minutes. In fact, a few of them didn't. This one guy in particular just couldn't wait, and drank bad water. By the middle of the night he was so sick he thought he was dying. I knew right away what was wrong. Long story short. We had to turn back to take him to get treated for parasites, before we continued. He missed out on an awesome adventure and . I won't go into the gory details, I am sure you have seen someone poisoned by tainted water, but it's just not something you want to experience, and he recovered, and good guy and all, but not someone I want to keep close to me. That was very reckless. Yes, It only cost us about a days travel, but what else could negligence like that mean for a whole group of experienced guys?
15:25 Respect earned.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
best vid on this theme so far! how do you guys not have more views? thx for all you guys are doing and thx for your service!
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Thank u Karl.
Karl, I appreciate the information in this video, and I did get a couple of ideas from it. I really believe in boiling, but consider also that that may not be possible. I have never carried a plastic bottle, but I'm going to try it. My question is about your jacket, and the brand. It looks real warm, and I' want to pick one up.
Damn, Thanks Karl!
Thanks for watching, TR
I would definitely run that sediment water through a sock or t-shirt before treating or boiling. great video
Thanks for watching, TR
Thanks for sharing ur knowledge Karl I love Ur show n videos...
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POLAR PURE is a red iodine Crystals that anymore can keep ready for use by fill-in the contrainer with water n just let it sit since it has a VERY LONG LONG SHELF LIFE...
YES POLAR PURE comes with a Built-in measure-ing device...
Filters like theee MSR Filter ( Mountain Safety Research ) from Seattle Washington filters down to the MICRON LEVEL = 🔎🔎 00.2 MICRON WILL FILTER VIRUSES...Theee smallest Micro-Organisms ( according to the MSR sales rep )
Nice show and tell there and informational TR, saw pt 1 already too I’ve use the iodine before the taste was not good where was all this filter stuff back in the day 😂👍👌✌️🪖🇺🇸
Thanks for that all that info. Especially about Chlor-Foc. But about the Aquatabs, I checked on Amazon and they say to wait only 30 minutes. Were you talking about the same product, because you mentionned 4 hours of wait time? I was stuck in a forest trail just last weekend and my girl friend and I had no more water for the day. Thank God I had a few Pristine tabs (8.5mg of Sodium Dichloroisocyanurate) when we finally reached a lake. Our lips were dry and we had problems to salivate from all that walking in the sun and no more hydratation. It was the first time I ever used those tabs. It worked great. But at one point walking in swampy trail with no drinkable water I was thinking of having that dirty swampy water. So now I can imagine myself in a similar scenarion never getting to that lake, those Chlor-Foc sachets would have been life savers.
Personally I like to double filter and then boil. You can start by using some form of cloth and a bottle, putting your "raw" water in it and letting the water filter through the cloth to get the big sediments like dirt/sand out, then that water goes into the finer filters like you discussed in Part 1, and finally the water comes out of the fine filter and goes into your pot/can for boiling. It takes a bit of time, but this way you don't have to deal with any funky taste, it can be done many many times over before you have to worry about your filters getting used up since the first stage takes out most of the junk that clogs up the finer filters, and it should get pretty much all of the heavy elements and parasites/bacteria/viruses out. Won't help you with salt though, still have to distill to get that out.
Abaddon GC problem is that People like me (High School Students) don’t usually have a pot for that, so I have been doing some research on if iodine tablets are allowed where I am at
I don't know if I'd trust all methods together drinking out of the Euphrates. Yuck. Swam in it, can't get that smell out for weeks. People get skin conditions out of it to.
I've heard you shouldn't use iodine if you have thyroid problems. Also does the bleach go bad if it's unopened?
Nice.
Great video series Karl. Any tips (or maybe a vid?) for collecting water in more arid conditions?
Honest, I’ve had classes on pulling water out of plants and ground (solar stills) but never had much luck with them. Rather, I watch the locals ( humans and animals) and see where they go for water. It’ll be nasty, and still need to be treated, but it’s still more reliable than squeezing a rock. TR
@@TacticalRifleman Thank you
Ideas for other videos : how have you handled wear and tear on your feet on the go ( from the minor to sprains, strains, fractures and breaks) as I am sure you have had lots of experience in this.
All the best.
I’ll add it to the video idea list
That's a good question, I'm kind of curious what boots he's using for the cold weather in this video also.
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Karl... love the info you are sharing with us. God bless yas. However... how come you didn't mention the "Sawyer water filter" system(s). I'm a backpacker and camper and been using a Sawyer for several years. Excellent long term filtration and at a LOW cost. You haven't heard of it?? Best wishes....... Ax
Ax, yep, I actually used to carry a Sawyer. However, now I carry a Survivor Filter. It gets down to 0.02 microns. That's a lot finer than the Sawyer. Read the fine print on your Sawyer. If you are sticking with the Sawyer, please treat with Chlorine Dioxide. I have gotten food/water poisoning in just about every corner of this planet. However, I once picked up a BAD bug, sick from drinking pond water once. Didn't treat it with enough Iodine. Under the microscope, they showed me little buggers swimming... I was on the same anti-worm drugs you give to dogs and cows and STILL shit out both ends for 6 solid days. I now take clean water serious. Thanks for watching, TR
Karl.... thanks for the input. I didn't know that!! I"ll look for the Survivor and the Chlorine Dioxide!! Thanks Man. All my best.... Ax
@@TacticalRifleman Definitely would be a great Patreon war story!!🤣😂🤜🤛🇺🇸🇺🇸
Filling up a canteen from a muddy tire track in Africa. Damn, that's the most badass old-school snake eater ODA shit I've heard in a while lol
I didn’t say I was as smart
lol, fun or cool memories are rarely made by sensible decisions.
@@TheCCBoi Sounds like you've had some experience.💪💪🇺🇸🇺🇸
Great content! Would you recommend pairing 2 different products to have better tasting water? As an example - Potable Aqua paired with Sawyer mini? Thanks!
Yes, absolutely. However, I'm not a fan of the Sawyer-Mini... as it does not filter anything except particulate. Pairing is great. However, always be ready in case one fails. Thanks for watching, TR
Tactical Rifleman Thank you.
How about those portable straws ?what do u think about them ?i feel there be a good idea .great video keep them coming 👍🇺🇸
Life Straws are great, if you don't have room for a larger pump filter. I keep a Life Straw in my carry-on bag, when traveling to austere locations. So, yeah, I think they are a great tool.
The disadvantage is the time limit and inability to carry water.
iodine... just a fun fact, its a mineral our body needs and almost everyone is iodine deficient, so the pills may have an unintended benefit:) how lucky can we get? This deal just gets better and better. Thanks for your videos, I've been looking at some of them, great stuff:)
Thanks for watching, TR
What kind or tester could we use to minimize the chances of us getting sick?
In the phield i recomend a pH tape measurer.
P.s. while water have lots of variables most tests are cumbersome.
How about treating flood water in an urban environment? We've had some serious floods the last few weeks here in Australia and it's left some people stranded on top of their roofs for a few days until emergency services have been able to rescue them. I feel like a 3 stage purification method would work:
- 1st use a Milbank bag to filter out particles (anything that filters out particulate would work)
- 2nd boil the water to kill any viruses, bacteria, etcetera
- 3rd use a Grayl GeoPress, UltraPress or Ultralight to not only further filter any pathogens but also filter out heavy metals & chemicals as well as improve the taste & smell.
Any advice from the UA-cam survival community?
I’m not familiar with those filters. I recommend the survivor filter, as it gets down to 0.02 microns … that’s much better that the lifestraw 0.1 microns
Quick question, what are your thoughts on Potassium Permanganate vs the chlorine and iodine tablets?
The Betrayer
Gets my vote every time!
Just listed it's advantages in a comment above.
I think you are missing something called activated charcoal
when it comes to detoxification and removable heavy metals.
Mark, We covered filters in Part-1. Thanks for watching. TR
Can you use regular clorine tablets for a pool to purify water for drinking
Yes, if you are purifying 10,000 gallons at a pop. It's too hard to get the correct amount down for just a gallon because it is so concentrated.
does anyone know the brand/ name of jacket he is wearing?
I don't know, but I was actually wondering the same thing. That's a nice looking jacket!!🤜🤛🇺🇸🇺🇸
I always used a bdu pants leg, sometimes doubled up as a filter first. Because I'm a wuss like that.
ok curious here, if you have to have fire anyways why wouldnt you do that first then just melt the water all around you?
Not if you are on the move
To make a sand, rocks and t shirt filter aka "trad Portuguese filter" is valid or takes too long?
Better than nothing, but it really just removes the sediment. You’ll still need to chemically treat the water
That one bottle looked more like chocolate milk rather than water. :D
Yeah, I scoped a little too close to the bottom to get the big crud.
I agree, it's similar to too much tequila, that's what I heard anyways ;)
What about charcoal tabs?
I have experience with Charcoal filters, but not Charcoal Tabs. What Brand are you talking about? Could you send a link?
IF WE ARE HAUNTED BY FULLY AWARE MACHINES ALL THIS IS USELESS :(
but i love your vids
In a emergency situation..can pool water be purified?? So shock will clean my pool water so I can drink it in a emergency?
Yes and no... Lots of chemicals in a pool. However, you can use it to catch rain water, and purify as needed.
@@TacticalRifleman Thank you
I always pre filter with a t-shirt anyways
What do you mean that your "grew up with it in the army"?
He went in the Army when he was eighteen, so he was still a kid when he joined, and stayed in for over twenty five years. So he basically grew up in the Army, Karl has more experience with boots on the ground than 90% of the guys you'll find on UA-cam. Hope that helps answer your question.
Flush the caps or suffer the craps! 121617
Nice!!! So true.
Also empty the canteen often
Why not gather the snow..? It’s more pure than any open ground water source. Yellow snow is a no no .
I guess treatment has its uses. I rather boil. You can filter most debris with a cloth or shirt.
so what do these chemicals do to your gut flora?
Anything is better than catching a parasite... been there done that.
@@TacticalRifleman That would be a good war story to add to your Patreon list! All your worse case scenarios that didn't go as planned.🤜🤛🇺🇸🇺🇸
friend plz tell me would u recommend this chlor flac or not?
Short answer: Yes. Long Answer: I carry the Chlor Flox kit in my Rucks and in the small bag I keep in my vehicle when traveling. I hate the term "Bug Out Bag," but I do travel with a "Civilian" looking bag that is full of fun items to help me get home. I prefer chlorine dioxide for smaller kits. If you know you're going to be around nasty water... Chlor Flox is awesome. Hope this helps, TR.
Tactical Rifleman thanks bro .
thnku very much
I use coffee filters to strain out the nasty crap.
pool floc for drinking water lol
MMS
Fake radio noises like that would be such a big boy thing to have a radio.
Then it’s all about how to live like an animal...