Eric, this series is by far my favorite content you have put out. I felt like I was along for the adventure. I would like to see your other off road adventures done in a mini series like this one. Well done and you really showed your wheeling experience getting that big rig down that tough trail.
ryding with ryan u can tell he either smokes weed or has been threw this many times lol. i would be really pissed off and prolly just left the truck in the trail lol
Its really good that you have people that can help you in your time of need There is most likely allot of people you never met that seen yur videos and would help you any time as well Thanks for sharing your adventures and videos
Wow, Eric, you really had an adventure there ! It is clear to see that the MMT is a serious off-road excursion . While it is unfortunate that the wrecker broke down, it was not due to `operator` error. Sometimes things just break. This time it happened to the wrecker. It was great to see that you were able to `block & tackle` the wrecker back together enough to get it back out. It reminds me of the time when my old `65 Ford Econoline Van broke all the leaf springs but the main on the right rear, and I had to use a wood block and a chain to cobble it up enough to drive it 50 miles to my father`s repair garage. Your adventure sure made for some fantastic video footage !
I know it's a bad day but you have to have a strong appreciation for the American ingenuity of a backwoods repair you guys did a good job pat pat yourself on the back
Dang Eric. When BSF breaks things on their own equipment they sure like to do it big, lol. Glad to see Big Red and the Rubicon made it back to the trail head.
this happened to me all the time then i got rid of them stupid blocks. replaced with something like the old school traction bars. and this is why i like your videos. you do what ever it takes to get out of the woods. i myself on my trucks personally never had any real trouble in the woods. it was always after we played and was on the way home when the the transfer case would fall off teh rear end fell out and stuff.
I only had time to watch that video in 5 minute increments, had me on tenterhooks until you got out! Looking forward to seeing the repair/rebuild/upgrade/improvements video. I think I would go with new recambered springs myself, easiest option to replace the lift blocks, and cost effective too. No chassis or axle mod to do, and you can change the springs later, in one job when the time is right, after repairing the existing set up. Well done for getting the truck back out safely!
You know way back when when Seat Cover was first involved in these videos she used to grate on me, she seemed caustic and rude. Now, she's come a long ways as a person and as a videographer. Her questions were pertinent, her observations good, and she was running a good camera. Nicely done!
Your videos are great! You remind me a lot of my Dad, shit hits the fan but you keep a cool head. Nothing to be gained by getting excited just gotta focus on the problem at hand. I hope you'll do repair videos for the wrecker and Jeep, I enjoy those just as much as the wheeling and recovery videos.
I’m guessing he’s running lift blocks because outside of custom made springs I doubt you can get the right lift of springs for a 1 ton dually. And it’s a budget deal since it’s easy to name parts they need, but hard to pay for them. I’m sure we’ll see some sort of upgrade and repair soon though.
Yep go ahead and do your shackle flip then you can experience axle wrap like so many dummy's do , the proper fix for his heavy duty needs is to have custom springs made that are built with a MUCH thicker main leaf and second leaf that also wraps the first at the shackle ends, the eylets of the second leaf are left elongated to still allow movement of the springs but will act to maintain axle position in the event of main leaf breakage and also does a great deal to stop axle wrap under hard pull high traction times, with the width of the entire leaf pack widened a bit (to somewhere around 3 or 4 inches depending on just how heavy duty you really need or want) then tappered to still fit his shackles, or even better leave them wide and build better shackles to accept the wider width springs and heavy bolts with better tougher spring bushings, and using much stronger 7/16 or 1/2 inch spring center bolts, arched and built to the rate to give him the lift desired, then install both longer and wider (to match the new springs width) axle pads, then also throw away those pathetic wimpy little U bolts and replace them with custom built ones using high tensile 3/4 inch stock along with new thicker plates to match (3/8" or better here can't hurt), but then he also needs to lose the P.O.S stock Ujoints that chevy used on those otherwise great rearends and replace the with spicer 1350's or better yet 1410's (i know you can get the yokes for the 1350's all around, front and rear and even center driveshafts if your running divorced T case the 1410 yokes however may be a tad hard to get for some applications but you can have those built custom too just depends how serious you want to stop having crap like this happen, but you will always have a weak link somewhere no matter what you do, you can however actually create a weak link on purpose to save other more expensive parts, let me elaborate if you will, say you do all I mention here then you go out and dynamite the rear end, well create a weak link by running say the 1410 on the upper end of the rear driveshaft and the 1350 on the lower or rear most, you could do simmlar using the stock ujoint and the 1350 but nothing is gained in strength by that really, however one trick is to through drill the stock yoke where the bolts go that hold the straps then use actuall spicer style u bolts and nuts just like the spicer style, you have to do just a very tiny bit of grinder work on the yokes backside to allow nut clearance but the strength increase is quite substancial, I just wish I could remember the spicer part number for the u bolt you need to use to match up and work on that exact chevy yoke and joint but I have been retired for nearly 7 years now and can't remember, I did just these kind of build ups on trucks and various equiptment for the mining, logging, electric power, oil exploration and like industries along with special builds on emergency vehickles like off road fire trucks for wildland fire fighting and the like for about 20 years of my nearly 30 years as a mechanic so I acquired at least a littlew knowledge of how to build this stuff to stay together and stay working, and because of that the stuff that some guys put together kinda make me shiver and shake my head, do it right once and be done and you'll never suffer the regrets of the shoulda woulda coulda's.
Man, I like that GMC that is one bad ass truck always can be fixed but wow the power it has to twist that dif like that ... that’s the kinda shit... Don’t stop doing what you’re doing..... Shane. The Rocky Mountain recovery Team...
do you realise how much strain that vehicle goes thru recovering what he does,.he probably didnt re tighten them after fitting.never had a problem with blocks,.std ford,chev,dodge.
You're going to need some serious suspension upgrades this winter if you ever have a hope of doing a recovery on this trail! Maybe new parts for a change?
I was watching fab rats video he made the statement that it was better to reposition hangers and re arch springs because under wrecker applications you would keep braking ubolts because of stress the blocks put on it
think time to rethink the rear drivetrain maybe go 4 link with coil springs with pockets or make the rear much more stronger & flexable just a thought ??
the lift blocks broke stucked and phucked him big time!!! was it worth it not buying some used cab and chassis leaf springs 13 +3 aux and a shackle kit?
Yeah I think you shouldn't have lift blocks to start with next get rid of the leaf springs and put a four link in the truck. Besides that man awesome truck and its cool how you help everyone get unstuck out in the woods.
As mentioned earlier, traction bars would have prevented that axle wrap up. Lift blocks are notorious for this kind of failure, especially if off-roading. Love that truck though.
I bet you were nervous being under that truck with only 2 Hi Lift jacks holding it up. Looks sketchy as hell! Good idea wrapping the tree saver around the yoke, I was thinking the exact same thing when you said I don't know how were gonna do this. It is exhausting, its like the truck is being held together by your will power alone, been there more than I care to admit too. What caused this in the beginning? The locating bolt?
This why I never put lift blocks on my square body.... I seen so many guys at mud bogs to where u see the blocks falling out the back.... they dont care though lolz .... it looks cool !!! But if there’s a better way to lift it go ahead but not something for me
Not really recommended any where, but they do have their purpose, the OEs use them in alot of vehicles for example. But you have to make sure everything is secure and be mindful of torque reaction. Personally I won't touch them, have seen a few pop out when used as lowering blocks.
WHAT,so why are f100;s,chevy;s,dodge australian std passed,they all have 2.5" to 4.5 " lift blocks,been driving/ 4x4ing for 30 yrs,no probs.its called maintenance,allways check your vehicle if doing non road driving.hill climbs,rally,drag,ect.
ANY time you alter the suspension you put forces on it, through leverage that it was never designed to handle. It will cause breakage, or movement in ways that are non beneficial, or through leverage or higher center of gravity, alter what the vehicle can do.
Pfft... Lift blocks. Makes me wonder sometimes if the driver even knows when his truck is tracking sideways down the road. Blocked way up into the air. The only blocks I trust are body lift blocks. Besides those actually keep center of gravity low. Axle and leaf spring blocks are just one of those gambles I never felt good about. Nevermind those long U-bolts. Makes me think of that guy out there that used pressure treated 4x4 lumber for blocks. Then again I have seen quite a few truck frames with wood as spacers under the flat bed and frame rails. Lol... Nothing like nicely welded set of leaf spring mounts, and some boomerang shackles with grease-able shackle bolts. Just to keep things together solid and stop those annoying squeaks. I think they are only like $50-100 or something a set. And up with the same 3" lift those blocks give. That way the leaf spring can sit right onto the axle. No more questionable blocks.
This is exactly how I had my jaw broken by a high lift jack . I understand you have got to do what you have got to do somtimes but my god that was scary to watch !
I did it too. bit my tongue hard too. I was thinking the whole time, get your head out of the jack handle swing, it's worse than any punch you ever felt lol More like getting kicked by a clydesdale on a house trailer tongue no less
I love that you always have the kids out with you. Teaching them some real problem solving skills and away from the internet.
Eric, this series is by far my favorite content you have put out. I felt like I was along for the adventure. I would like to see your other off road adventures done in a mini series like this one. Well done and you really showed your wheeling experience getting that big rig down that tough trail.
I like how he is always so calm in all these situations
ryding with ryan u can tell he either smokes weed or has been threw this many times lol. i would be really pissed off and prolly just left the truck in the trail lol
did you notice there was a short break in the video,
You found plenty of friends to come along and help, great group of people,thumbs up again
Its really good that you have people that can help you in your time of need
There is most likely allot of people you never met that seen yur videos and would help you any time as well
Thanks for sharing your adventures and videos
Like how you kept your sense of humour i would have been going nuts.
He is a great mechanic so no worries there
You guys are the best can't wait to see recker out on the trail again 😁😎 cheer's
Wow, Eric, you really had an adventure there !
It is clear to see that the MMT is a serious off-road excursion .
While it is unfortunate that the wrecker broke down, it was not due to `operator` error. Sometimes things just break. This time it happened to the wrecker.
It was great to see that you were able to `block & tackle` the wrecker back together enough to get it back out. It reminds me of the time when my old `65 Ford Econoline Van broke all the leaf springs but the main on the right rear, and I had to use a wood block and a chain to cobble it up enough to drive it 50 miles to my father`s repair garage.
Your adventure sure made for some fantastic video footage !
Your a great thinker I was a wrecker driver for a long time at the end of the day you figured it out good sir. Love your channel!!
Like the way you stay calm, one of the better off highway videos I've seen in some time
I love this kind of stuff. It's all part of the adventure. Nobody wants to break but it's how you handle it that counts. Well done.
I know it's a bad day but you have to have a strong appreciation for the American ingenuity of a backwoods repair you guys did a good job pat pat yourself on the back
Nice to see people helping you out this time.
Kyle, Kyle, Kyle... Dang that Kyle! I see Ladder Bars in future videos... Grilled steaks, and beers all around! What a good bunch of guys!
now time for the fix cant wait to see the tear down n fix of both of the rigs great video man
Definitely need to invest in Trac bars. Especially when running lift blocks like that. Ubolts alone just don't cut it.
Dang Eric. When BSF breaks things on their own equipment they sure like to do it big, lol. Glad to see Big Red and the Rubicon made it back to the trail head.
Great fix scary jacks
this happened to me all the time then i got rid of them stupid blocks. replaced with something like the old school traction bars. and this is why i like your videos. you do what ever it takes to get out of the woods. i myself on my trucks personally never had any real trouble in the woods. it was always after we played and was on the way home when the the transfer case would fall off teh rear end fell out and stuff.
I only had time to watch that video in 5 minute increments, had me on tenterhooks until you got out! Looking forward to seeing the repair/rebuild/upgrade/improvements video. I think I would go with new recambered springs myself, easiest option to replace the lift blocks, and cost effective too. No chassis or axle mod to do, and you can change the springs later, in one job when the time is right, after repairing the existing set up.
Well done for getting the truck back out safely!
Glad to see you got her alive and moving. " We leave no man behind" or vehicle as it pertains.
She was impressive on the way out being held together by chains and ratchet straps. Exelent video. You have a new sub. Really enjoy
You know way back when when Seat Cover was first involved in these videos she used to grate on me, she seemed caustic and rude. Now, she's come a long ways as a person and as a videographer. Her questions were pertinent, her observations good, and she was running a good camera. Nicely done!
Eric you should consider a traction bar set up or a four link set up.
exhausting run! Well done.
Maybe should have called a tow truck! Just playing, great work.
Eric, I know it is costly. But Deaver makes get leaf packs for eliminating blocks and prone axle warp
In pinch like you were. On the spring centering bolt. Use a normal bolt. You will just need to grind the bolt head round to fit the axle Perch.
Need a 3rd link at least it wouldn't of twisted! Did that in my bronco, 3rd links help!
Your videos are great! You remind me a lot of my Dad, shit hits the fan but you keep a cool head. Nothing to be gained by getting excited just gotta focus on the problem at hand. I hope you'll do repair videos for the wrecker and Jeep, I enjoy those just as much as the wheeling and recovery videos.
I Love Your Videos Thanks
I see some axle control bars in this truck furture or atleast a nice list of spare parts
Hey on the bright side, the rotors look great
Are Traction bars in the wrecker future?
I wanna see some fix it videos for both the Wrecker and the Rubicon
Thats awsome freinds helped ya out.. Since ya help them *OUT* out of mudholes.. 😁
So, did you fab up some blocks to weld to the axle perches? Maybe less likely to try to spit them out.
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Dam that's a ruff place to do that job.. Awesome work..
You could have drove the truck out with front-wheel drive
I’m guessing he’s running lift blocks because outside of custom made springs I doubt you can get the right lift of springs for a 1 ton dually. And it’s a budget deal since it’s easy to name parts they need, but hard to pay for them. I’m sure we’ll see some sort of upgrade and repair soon though.
Relocate the front shackle mounts and flip the rear shackles. Off Road Designs makes the parts for that every day at a budget friendly price.
Yep go ahead and do your shackle flip then you can experience axle wrap like so many dummy's do , the proper fix for his heavy duty needs is to have custom springs made that are built with a MUCH thicker main leaf and second leaf that also wraps the first at the shackle ends, the eylets of the second leaf are left elongated to still allow movement of the springs but will act to maintain axle position in the event of main leaf breakage and also does a great deal to stop axle wrap under hard pull high traction times, with the width of the entire leaf pack widened a bit (to somewhere around 3 or 4 inches depending on just how heavy duty you really need or want) then tappered to still fit his shackles, or even better leave them wide and build better shackles to accept the wider width springs and heavy bolts with better tougher spring bushings, and using much stronger 7/16 or 1/2 inch spring center bolts, arched and built to the rate to give him the lift desired, then install both longer and wider (to match the new springs width) axle pads, then also throw away those pathetic wimpy little U bolts and replace them with custom built ones using high tensile 3/4 inch stock along with new thicker plates to match (3/8" or better here can't hurt), but then he also needs to lose the P.O.S stock Ujoints that chevy used on those otherwise great rearends and replace the with spicer 1350's or better yet 1410's (i know you can get the yokes for the 1350's all around, front and rear and even center driveshafts if your running divorced T case the 1410 yokes however may be a tad hard to get for some applications but you can have those built custom too just depends how serious you want to stop having crap like this happen, but you will always have a weak link somewhere no matter what you do, you can however actually create a weak link on purpose to save other more expensive parts, let me elaborate if you will, say you do all I mention here then you go out and dynamite the rear end, well create a weak link by running say the 1410 on the upper end of the rear driveshaft and the 1350 on the lower or rear most, you could do simmlar using the stock ujoint and the 1350 but nothing is gained in strength by that really, however one trick is to through drill the stock yoke where the bolts go that hold the straps then use actuall spicer style u bolts and nuts just like the spicer style, you have to do just a very tiny bit of grinder work on the yokes backside to allow nut clearance but the strength increase is quite substancial, I just wish I could remember the spicer part number for the u bolt you need to use to match up and work on that exact chevy yoke and joint but I have been retired for nearly 7 years now and can't remember, I did just these kind of build ups on trucks and various equiptment for the mining, logging, electric power, oil exploration and like industries along with special builds on emergency vehickles like off road fire trucks for wildland fire fighting and the like for about 20 years of my nearly 30 years as a mechanic so I acquired at least a littlew knowledge of how to build this stuff to stay together and stay working, and because of that the stuff that some guys put together kinda make me shiver and shake my head, do it right once and be done and you'll never suffer the regrets of the shoulda woulda coulda's.
Man, I like that GMC that is one bad ass truck always can be fixed but wow the power it has to twist that dif like that ... that’s the kinda shit... Don’t stop doing what you’re doing.....
Shane.
The Rocky Mountain recovery Team...
Stickers for your helpers should say "BSF Recovery Team, Recovery Team"
Oh y'all are so much fun to watch
Looks like you need to build a set of ladder bars if you're gonna keep them blocks in the back
Have you ever considered in a newer truck for this even though you just rebuilt the wrecker not long ago
Hi, best to use re- arched Springs ? Or Weld the Lift Block To the Axle Housing ?
that drive shaft small as a twig! need stronger off-road parts!! worth it in the end
How are the new lift blocks holding up?
Eric, why didn't you take the rear drive line completely off and go out with the front end only powering it?
And this is why I don't use lift blocks.
If you must use lift blocks, weld them in. The little center nubbin is fine for on driving on road but can't handle the stress off road driving
Best of luck getting a decent weld on the cast iron lift blocks....
Use steel lift blocks.
do you realise how much strain that vehicle goes thru recovering what he does,.he probably didnt re tighten them after fitting.never had a problem with blocks,.std ford,chev,dodge.
I made my blocks out of 1\2 inch steel tube ,welded ends shut ,added wedge angle and drilled holes for the u bolts to go through 🤓 🏁
You're going to need some serious suspension upgrades this winter if you ever have a hope of doing a recovery on this trail! Maybe new parts for a change?
When you're in a pinch whatever works works y'all do great
I was watching fab rats video he made the statement that it was better to reposition hangers and re arch springs because under wrecker applications you would keep braking ubolts because of stress the blocks put on it
think time to rethink the rear drivetrain maybe go 4 link with coil springs with pockets or make the rear much more stronger & flexable just a thought ??
I wish I would have known you were up in my area again, I could have helped out also. Maybe next time.
the lift blocks broke stucked and phucked him big time!!! was it worth it not buying some used cab and chassis leaf springs 13 +3 aux and a shackle kit?
Yeah I think you shouldn't have lift blocks to start with next get rid of the leaf springs and put a four link in the truck. Besides that man awesome truck and its cool how you help everyone get unstuck out in the woods.
Dude you need the Hulk and Thanos with the infinity gauntlet to get you out of this!
Wow that was brutal! Impressive work getting it out of there. Aways good to have friends! Are you able to put a larger U-bolt on there next time?
no matter how strong you build them, they will still break down sooner or later!
gilliland426 you got that right...it don't matter if it's a million dollar truck or a 100 dollar truck they all break down sooner or later..
As mentioned earlier, traction bars would have prevented that axle wrap up. Lift blocks are notorious for this kind of failure, especially if off-roading. Love that truck though.
If you're not breaking stuff, you're not having fun. 😆🤘
Chevy 427
I know right
Chevy 427 I have fun all the time in my rig without breaking stuff so I don't know what you're doing LOL
Rick Rude having way more fun than you i think. lol
Chevy 427 LOL I'll make sure I remember that when I'm at Moab in a couple weeks 😉
You could put a bottle jack on top of the diff and as you jack it up will rotate the diff down.
Where is this place in Minn I live between millwakee and Madison and can't find any real trails round here..
18:47 more power to the winch picking the truck up off idle
Good job buddy
What fun getting out
I bet you were nervous being under that truck with only 2 Hi Lift jacks holding it up. Looks sketchy as hell! Good idea wrapping the tree saver around the yoke, I was thinking the exact same thing when you said I don't know how were gonna do this. It is exhausting, its like the truck is being held together by your will power alone, been there more than I care to admit too. What caused this in the beginning? The locating bolt?
Yes, I think the spring center bolt broke first.
Glad to see it move out on it's own power
12:00 rotate the pinion and it will tilt the axle.
What part of Minnesota was it
What town
Near Virginia, on the Iron Range
@@offroadrecoveryteam thanks
time for some latter bars or better yet re-arched springs and get rid of the blocks.
wow broke both vehicles, too much fun lol...
Love you r video s
Very smart mechanic in not to take the you bolts off all the way very smart
So does this mean we get a series of fix it videos on the Rubicon and Big Red?
Jimmy Turner what do we want?
FIX IT VIDEOS!!
when do we want it?
SOON!!
I believe your ubolts where upside down, correct me if I’m wrong
Lift blocks are too long to be unsupported. Really needs K bars to stop the diff twisting and levering itself along the springs IMHO of course
I'm curious on the sticker y'all came up with
axle wrap is no joke.
CTM U-joints are a beast
Ha just like old times, busting your balls to help out and have fun. Good times offroad
pretty amazing backyard repair considering how broke it was
You got Parts over there by that house with that extra truck you got
This why I never put lift blocks on my square body.... I seen so many guys at mud bogs to where u see the blocks falling out the back.... they dont care though lolz .... it looks cool !!! But if there’s a better way to lift it go ahead but not something for me
There has got too be custom wrecker lift springs you can get so ya don’t need lift blocks.
So that's why suspension blocks aren't recommended in Australia
Not really recommended any where, but they do have their purpose, the OEs use them in alot of vehicles for example. But you have to make sure everything is secure and be mindful of torque reaction. Personally I won't touch them, have seen a few pop out when used as lowering blocks.
You can be sure any OE ones are going to be short as they can get it. think 1 maybe 2 inch max.
WHAT,so why are f100;s,chevy;s,dodge australian std passed,they all have 2.5" to 4.5 " lift blocks,been driving/ 4x4ing for 30 yrs,no probs.its called maintenance,allways check your vehicle if doing non road driving.hill climbs,rally,drag,ect.
Eric, will that spot get named "BSF Wrecker Broke" ???? :)
How about dualy breaker by BSF
You need to call a wrecker service to recover your wrecker. 😎
ANY time you alter the suspension you put forces on it, through leverage that it was never designed to handle. It will cause breakage, or movement in ways that are non beneficial, or through leverage or higher center of gravity, alter what the vehicle can do.
Maybe block the tires from rolling us a good idea?
Pfft... Lift blocks. Makes me wonder sometimes if the driver even knows when his truck is tracking sideways down the road. Blocked way up into the air. The only blocks I trust are body lift blocks. Besides those actually keep center of gravity low. Axle and leaf spring blocks are just one of those gambles I never felt good about. Nevermind those long U-bolts. Makes me think of that guy out there that used pressure treated 4x4 lumber for blocks. Then again I have seen quite a few truck frames with wood as spacers under the flat bed and frame rails. Lol... Nothing like nicely welded set of leaf spring mounts, and some boomerang shackles with grease-able shackle bolts. Just to keep things together solid and stop those annoying squeaks. I think they are only like $50-100 or something a set. And up with the same 3" lift those blocks give. That way the leaf spring can sit right onto the axle. No more questionable blocks.
I'll be alright you put that truck through a lot of hell what you do with them old trucks is pretty hard on it they're still pretty tough
This is exactly how I had my jaw broken by a high lift jack . I understand you have got to do what you have got to do somtimes but my god that was scary to watch !
I did it too. bit my tongue hard too. I was thinking the whole time, get your head out of the jack handle swing, it's worse than any punch you ever felt lol
More like getting kicked by a clydesdale
on a house trailer tongue no less
too bad you did not put rear steer in it when you repaired it at the shop.
lifting blocks wont stop axel wrap
look at bow in the hi-lift jack
A bottle Jack would have help out with getting that rearend back down by putting it on top of the chunk and Jack it back down
couldnt you just disconnect the rear driveshaft and limp the truck out of the woods using the 4x4 front axle?
All thread and a couple nuts for a spring bolt
Ladder bars of some sorts may help prevent this from recurring