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- In this short video Danish filmmaker Lars von Trier shares his admiration for the Twin Peaks TV series and tells a funny story of a failed meeting with its director, David Lynch.
Lars von Trier was inspired by David Lynch’s series ‘Twin Peaks’ when making The Kingdom (1994). What fascinates Trier about Twin Peaks is how it is told and never reveals an overall meaning behind the events going on in the series. “It's based on the assumption that you expect all these peculiar things happening at the end will lead to a greater meaning. He (David Lynch, red.) never intended that,” Trier says. Lynch “tried to finish it both with a feature film and another series but it was never his intention, he's made it a point that it doesn't come together in the end,” von Trier states. “The funniest thing is to tease and not reach a conclusion.”
When Trier was invited to meet David Lynch at the Film School in Copenhagen, he sees Lynch sitting in a room “with a couple of suits who looked like Jehovah's Witnesses.” Trier decides to hide in a nearby office under the desk table, where he stayed laying on the floor for an hour: Afterwards, Lars von Trier manages to escape unseen. “I can't take seeing the alliance between something that I admire this much and something I admire this little,” he says.
Lars von Trier (b.1956) is a Danish film director and screenwriter, whose prolific career spans almost four decades. His pivotal work is known for its technical innovation and examination of existential, social, and political issues in movies such as ‘The Element of Crime’ (1984), ‘Europa’ (1991), ‘Breaking the Waves’ (1996), ‘The Idiots’ (1998), ‘Dancer in the Dark’ (2000), ‘Dogville’ (2003), ‘Antichrist’ (2009), ‘Melancholia’ (2011), Nymphomaniac (2013) and ‘The House That Jack Built’ (2018). He is also the creator of the TV series ‘The Kingdom’ (1994-1997) and one of the creators of the innovative Dogma 95 style manifesto (along with e.g. Thomas Vinterberg), which has since marked Danish and European film alike. Among his numerous awards at film festivals worldwide, Trier has received the Palme d’Or, the Grand Prix, Prix du Jury, and The Technical Grand Prize at the Cannes Film Festival, as well as The University of Copenhagen’s DKK 1 million Sonning Prize 2018. In 2018 Brandt Museum in Odense, Denmark presented a major exhibition providing a retrospective overview of the work of Trier: ‘Lars von Trier - The good with the evil’. Trier is also the founder and shareholder of the international film production company Zentropa Films. In 2022 Lars von Trier will release the third part of ‘The Kingdom’, entitled ‘The Kingdom Exodus’.
Lars von Trier was interviewed by Christian Lund at his home outside Copenhagen in November 2020.
Camera: Jakob Solbakken & Rasmus Quistgaard
Edit: Kasper Bech Dyg
Produced by Christian Lund
Copyright: Louisiana Channel, Louisiana Museum of Modern Art, 2020
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Longer version of the interview here: ua-cam.com/video/pXWcl6OuVw8/v-deo.html
It makes me so sad to see him shake like this. I love you Lars, you have changed my entire life. Like I can't even explain it, he is my favorite filmmaker ever. I hope you hang in there for a little longer, if not that's okay too. I can feel your pain dude.
We all will shake one day
@@J-J1455 he was diagnosed with Parkinsons...his shaking isn't just old man shaking.
@@jevinday we all will shake one day
My Danish grandfather (I'm from Canada) had the same disease for more than 15 years. I have hope for Lars, as the research has advanced a lot in the past 15 years... I am saddened to learn from your comment that he suffers from that horrible disease, I have always appreciated his unique style and personal perspective, I saw Danish interviews of him as a kid before even seeing his movies.
I love his art. Hurts me when seeing him shaking like this. Hangin there, Lars.
Is he sick?? This is awful
Parkinson's? My great grandfather had that.
The director is sitting at a table behind a door marked “Private”, specs perched on his nose. The word “FUCK” is tattooed across his knuckles. His hands are shaking and his speech is laboured; he keeps losing his thread. Von Trier explains that the tremors are caused by antidepressants, although they may also be caused by alcohol withdrawal. He is largely sober these days, but recently fell off the wagon. “It’s hard to be in Cannes and not drink,” he says.
@@am2023 that's parkinson's an autoimmune disease, makes u to move your limbs uncontrollably.
@@cris4529 No, he says in the same interview that he is shaking like that because of the psychiatric drugs he is on. They have physical side effects.
It's actually a very Lynchian story.
It's funny that the David Lynch story sounds like a scene out of Riget.
“I can tell you a really funny story about Lynch.”
* tells a story about himself *
and a story that's not really funny at all...
hahahah, yeah, Lars Von Trier is still Lars Von Trier :-)
@@TheSFHAA isn't it funny? It's like a. scene from a sitcom. He's hiding the under the desk through the whole meeting. Imagine if they found him. Classic sitcom trope.
But, it is a perfect Lynch story, like the set-up, piece setting, that is Twin Peaks. A piece, setting, mood, atmospheric, tales within tales of tales of tales...like life, ongoing, and no resolution, until a series is cancelled or "ends" with contracts, or you or someone elses dies.
@@williamneal9076 true that!
Absolutely honest and wonderful. The fall of his admiration. I love it !!
I wanna give this guy a hug, some chocolates, and a stern handshake. I think he needs it.
No, he doesn't.
@@senjara5918 what has he ever done except great films?
@@starkingbiker ? If you mean that every film he'd made is great, I completely agree :)
Mehh... Lars just loves to drink
@@senjara5918 so why doesn't he need the chocolates? I agree about the hug though... why would he want some sweaty stranger hugging him? How is that ever good?
heartbreaking seeing him like this.
my grandfather passed away last year at 70 cuz of parkinsons
I love the backlash Lars gets for voicing his thoughts. He disrupts the illusions people live in and they strike like vipers at him. I love some things David Lynch has done, but I find it totally accurate that he went from thinking he was the goat to being an ice cream salesman. Funny.
Lynch is the goat just because you don’t understand his art doesn’t mean he is an ice cream salesman
@@mchazelover You just proved my point. Also Buñuel is the goat of surrealism, not even close.
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial no I haven’t 🤦♂️ you are not the brightest are you
@@mchazelover you’re still doing it that’s funny: “I love the backlash Lars gets for voicing his thoughts. He disrupts the illusions people live in and they strike like vipers at him.”
@@JonathanNelsonOfficial Lynch has more genius in his weather report than Lars has in his career 😂
That's exactly what happen to me when I went to a transcendental meditation "presentation" (except for the desk thing), I saw Lynch with Donovan and a lot of other personality, try to sell some second hand Indian spirituality with a telesales-man attitude. I don't know if it was the cultural difference between european and usa way of selling things, but it was painful to watch, because I love Lynch as a director and as a philosopher... I decided to send this experience in to The Black Lodge,I’ll think about it in 25 years.
transcendental meditation is a western approach to the real deep meditation, some westerns in india take those ancient mythological concepts about meditation and sell then in the US, there's a real deep meditation but it takes long time training.
@@cris4529 Yeah I agree, that's why I called it "second hand", maharishi yogi brought this technique in the end of '50 but i' m pretty sure he didn't have a 2000 dollars fee in mind to give access to the technique... usually you give access to the ones that are spirituality evolved enough not to the ones that have a big bank account... capitalism is incompatible with spiritually.
Was david lynch charging people to learn about meditation?
@@gmowoman In the conference he said verbatim "you don't have to ask why we ask money for this technique , but why it cost so little"... now, I'm not saying he charge people directly to him (of course) but he was speaking for the foundation...Anyway this conference was made in Italy, many years ago, I don’t know if in the meantime things have changed.
@@danilocaposeno It sounds like they've tricked him into a scam, because meditation shouldn't cost thousands of dollars/pounds
Went and saw Lost Highway on the big screen for the first since it came out Loved it even more this time
It's easy to understand: Lynch was selling "transcendental meditation" that day, surrounded by phonies. Von Trier didn't like that. He never said he didn't liked Lynch's work. It's all about that "transcendental meditation" company or corporation.
What phonies were those?
The David Lynch Foundation is a non-religious not-for-profit 501(c)3 organization as is the TM organization itself. Being non-religious, both organizations have to have completely open books because they are not allowed to hide behind the religious label and conceal property holdings and income.
Why assume he was surrounded by phonies in first plce?
@@bruhmei1491it’s not as assumption. JWs and anyone selling meditation like Maharishi does is a phoney
I don't do TM, I've tried it, didn't connect to it, didn't particularly connect to the organisation's cult-like structure, but I've never once doubted the good intentions of most of the people who do it. Why call them "phonies"? And use the word "selling" so cynically, it's called the David Lynch Foundation because he doesn't make any profit from it whatsoever.
@@bruhmei1491Man on suits I guess
Wow...this story is really bizzare and I really understand him
Lynch might very well be an imperfect filmmaker. His films and the Twin Peaks series have mistakes, yet he is hardly an ice cream salesman. The fact that he gave conferences to promote Transcendental Meditation doesn't make him a sell-out at all, specially considering that von Trier here confesses to also have been meditating for 15 years. Lynch makes the films and tv shows he wants to make, and if he has to give up artistic control, he exits the project. No hack would do this. The last season of Twin Peaks is a clear example of his artistic merits and pitfalls. Albeit not the perfect series, it is very far from being a commercial product. Von Trier talks as if Lynch had turned into a filmmaker that works solely for the highest bidder and was no longer the artist he once was. Could von Trier be any further from the truth here?
the point he was making about transcendental meditation was completely unrelated to his previous point on Twin Peaks, he isn't drawing any connections between Lynch's TM advocacy and artistic merit, think you might've missed the distinction. Also TM as a business is totally shady, the practice of TM itself does work, but only because it's actually just regular old mantra meditation disguised as something revolutionary by new age capitalist grifters. TM is what happens when you take a valuable spiritual and psychological tool and introduce it to predatory con artists, so it's definitely worth being critical of.
@@analcentipede I've no idea how shady the business of Transcendental Meditation is, but it would've been better for von Trier to mention it. Saying that Lynch is an ice-cream salesman because of his promotion of TM makes his argument come off against the artistic aspects of Lynch's craft. As if he had became a mere salesman and no longer the artist that he was. I am not claiming that there is only one interpretation to von Trier's story, it just would have been more clear if he had alluded to this "predatory con-artists" you mention.
You don't have to explain anything, David Lynch is a genius and a World treasure ❤️ Nobody's opinion is going to change that fact. What he has created will live on forever and it will speak for itself, he's created filmic worlds that only a few mortals could, so yeah, he's simply the greatest film maker alive with Martin Scorsese alongside him.
@@srinivassridhar5151 Hey man I just let David know you said this, he really appreciates it
This pretty much is about Lars being unable to compromise at all.
It's well recorded that if the execs interfere too much, Lynch will become annoyed and might leave the project, that's why he never worked for a big movie production after Dune or a TV production after Twin Peaks, but he's willing to make compromises, as he accepts new ideas from his actors, and staff and it's willing to improvise and to at the very least see the current work finished.
But Lars can't do that, he has to have all the control, that's why he's a supporter of dictators, he thinks order is worth having a tyrannical leader. He can't accept that accepting external ideas might be part of the auteur project. So an auteur as loose and improv as Lynch who is the complete opposite to a tyrant on the set, someone who can compromise to enrich his vision might as well be a sellout to Lars.
As for TM, Lynch might have fallen on the hands of some, pretty non-dangerous, cult, but he promotes it not to scam people, but because it actually helps his artistic vision as unlikely as it might seem., it can be argued that part of his works have TM as a basis.
aw, this makes me cry..
What can I say? I understand the man!
"I sympathize with him a little bit but come on..."
@@vrilmaxxed Come on what?
@@UpRisingDown "I'm not for second world War, I'm not against jews, I'm very much for jews, no not too much because Israel is pain in the ass..."
@@vrilmaxxed I understand. But what he ment isnt about excluding anyone. He admires some, in the edge of being possible to admire. Hes always on the edge. Like i.
@@vrilmaxxed cry jew
Lars has deep admiration for David Lynch.
"I did it for me. I liked It. I was good at it. I was really…I was alive."
Shut up
@@yaboydolphin Make me
SICK of that show
It's sad to see him shaking like that. At least you made your sign on the world.
I love his integrity here
good that Kingdom comes together in the end
I pray for his health.
I felt exactly the same when I first saw Lynch as auteur turned salesman. There was a desperation in it that disturbed, even if his belief in the power of TM is genuine.
I heard speak of TM and was sold to the nth degree-- Then I found out you have to pay money for a mantra/coach and felt betrayed, Something has transformative as he makes it sound should not be hidden behind a paywall.
@@raymungia6812 the excesses of late capitalism. It can’t be that good anyway, Lynch is still addicted to nicotine.
@@herrklamm1454 cigarettes are cool tho to be fair
@@herrklamm1454 Lynch said in at least one interview that he quit tobacco for 25 yrs. At what point, i have no clue because I've seen all kinds of docs and behind the scenes from all decades of him and he almost always has a cig.. But he did claim to have dropped the habit at some point but picked it up again willingly because he just loves tobacco
I feel exactly the same. I love David Lynch and I soak up every word he says like a sponge. But when it comes to that thing something small dies. I even try to do meditation, actually because of him and I really believe that it's a great thing. But the advertising part turns me off completely. I'm against all those things. Also I strongly believe that enlightenment should be free - it's a gift from our ancestors. TM is just one form of meditation - it's the smallest chapter in a 10$ book I own about meditation techniques.
so this is where the scene in RIGET comes from... where the hospital's director is hiding under his desk -
Riget must be older than this story, no?
@@epictetus9221 i dont think so
Sad to see this. Ten years younger than Lynch, and he appears fifteen years older.
I don’t think you’ve looked at Lynch recently.
@@colin72 He looks pretty good for his age
@@luiginastro8831 smoking will make you age rapidly, once youre old, it will hit you. look at anna karina fuck that shit
Parkinson’s will do that.
@@colin72 I'm watching his daily weather report.
Loved his art of telling stories. Except for Antichrist where I nearly fainted after watching.
Well I mean isn't that the point
I’m generally immune to disturbing situations/visuals, but antichrist was hard to get through.
and where is the causal connection between the film and fainting?
It's probably his best though
Even after hearing and seeing this, I still wholeheartedly love both David Lynch and Lars Von Trier, hope LvT pulls through with whatever medical thing appears to be happening with him, wish him the best. While I personally disagree from what I've seen and the brilliant solutions to mysteries Lynch has cleverly improvised without compromising his interpretive dream logic, I don't hold him on as much of a pedestal to ignore that what Trier saw may have been accurate, but I wasn't there, so I can't tell you if he's right or wrong, only about what I've seen from films. Also, Trier also has a tendency to avoid answers questions in his films ("AntiChrist" does not have a clear-cut answer to it's mystery, like Lynch, he keeps it metaphorical) so I'm surprised to hear he feels this way. Best of luck to all.
He has Parkinson's. There's no pulling through that, unfortunately.
Lars von ‘just fuck my shit up’ trier
I thought revival was absolutely great. I love it more than the first one.
He should REALLY watch TP: The Return.
But his point still stands - Lynch never intended to give us closure. His works are always abstract and up to interpretation, but with Twin Peaks he gave us epic cliffhangers at the end of both the original series and The Return. And that's kind of the point of the show. Not that it's bad. Once you come to terms with it you can actually admire this choice.
@@germanbushin9723 That is not really true. For example Mulholland Drive is a pretty conventional story, but told from a strange perspective.
@@ivankaramasov Yeah, I'd say that Mulholland Drive is pretty conclusive, even though I've seen some alternative interpretations. Even his most straightforward stories are more open-ended than most films, that's for sure.
@@germanbushin9723 this, I think that if david lynch decides to go back to twin peaks in a few years it'll probably end the same way
@@germanbushin9723 "....epic cliffhangers at the end of both the original series and The Return."
ahem, those were not cliffhangers. Twin Peaks is beyond over, baby.
The most visually talented filmmaker of the past 30 years
I’d say most talented story teller since Shakespeare
Nobody's perfect. Even Lynch. I just see his addiction to TM as one of his few imperfections.
What did Lars say though ? That he used to admire Lynch but does not anymore? Everything he says is ambiguous. I don't get his point.
@@randomkiliinterviews9453I don't think it was that at all. I think Lars was making a point about imagining Lynch as this larger-than-life character, when actually all the ways that Lynch isn't larger than life (that he isn't critical about his involvement with TM) are exactly the same psychological things that make him a great filmmaker.
Hang in there Lars goddammit
LVT is too honest, too original for this world. He is so truthful that offends the masses, they are not ready, they will never be
Meaningless traumatic art is not original.
@@sdhomeguide6343 Cry brainlet
Well, something can be honest all it wants but that doesn’t necessarily make it good. Part of what makes great directors great is translating their messages for everyday application.
In other words a relatable element.
Alienating the audience will only get you so far. Subversion in the truest sense is when nobody knows it happened at all.
While I admire Von Trier’s work greatly it never resonants emotionally with the exception of dancer in the dark and moments of breaking the waves. He leans towards cinematic stunts. Lynch and him are similar in many ways because their both style over everything else, but Lynch is far more emotional.
The best directors after Kubrick. The greatest director of the late 20th century and the best director of the early 21st century.
you're talking about David Lynch or Von Trier
A bold claim. I don’t agree but like the idea of it
In "Mindfuck" movies, he is better.
Ever heard Andrei tarkovsky ?
@@samindumadusanka3149 God damn right!
Wow. What a tripper. We all see the world through the eyes God gave us.
If I live to be old, I'll be shaking like this too.
David Lynch is a great director, along with Kubrick and Scorsese. Kurosawa. I don't agree with TM, and of course he's not perfect, but he's a master at this visual medium craft. Lynch is a solid filmmaker.
This feeling of a lack of resolution with Lynch may come as an intended consequence of his, as it reflects 'samsarra,' the cycle of death and rebirth, a prominent feauture in Buddhism. Lynch's characters don't simply fall into hell and then there they are kept forever, like in a von Trier movie. Von Trier would make it sound like Lynch is lazy, and then morally deficient. Maybe he is morally deficient (there is something to von Trier saying there is a mercenary quality in David Lynch) but he is not lazy.
Lynch is a painter first. Paintings don't have resolutions. Lynch likes opening doors better than showing you what is behind them.
I don't think he means lazy, but just an unromantic boring version of someone you would almost expect to be magical. I don't want to see too much of Lynch talking like some regular guy either. You might want to believe he's living in solipsistic ecstasy only possible for the most unique artists
@@4lx123 This. His movies are mostly visual and auditorial and follow emotional logic.
Even though you could make a strong case for how this should be a good combination his movies nevertheless always leave me dissatisfied.
I wonder if it’s simply so that the format of a movie is best suited for telling complete stories with a beginning, a dramatic climax and an end with a character arc progressing through the story. These movies I truly love.
Lars for me is something like between someone who makes movies partly based on logic and partly on emotion and that works quite well I feel.
lynch is morally deficient, but it's not because he does product placements or some shit.
@@plasticweapon Could you explain how Lynch is morally deficient? Most of his movies are morality plays. His movies depict something like the Christian value structure. Good versus evil, a hell like place and a heavenly like place
Lars seems unnecessarily critical of himself and David just because of a difference in methods. I like both directors.
I disagree with this common interpretation of Lynch's movies - that they deliberately don't resolve or have ambiguous stories. All of his works (except maybe Inland Empire which I can't understand at all) have straightforward stories that, if he wanted to, Lynch could just tell you outright. They only appear ambiguous because they often a) are told out of chronological order and b) contain supernatural elements. It always bugs me when people say that, e.g., Mulholland Dr. is just a series of weird, crazy scenes, because that's not what it is at all.
Exactly! The great thing about his movies is that it DOES make sense, it does have a meaning, its just difficult to understand what that meaning is…
It’s very obvious what Eraserhead, Lost Highway and Mulholland Dr are about
Which is?@@91bpatrick
I might have done the same seeing an ambush of gang of suits. Nevertheless with David nothing is as it seems, Lars should have grow a pair instead of embracing the apparent disillusion. Beautifully and fun story nevertheless, thank you.
I'd say almost all of Lynch's films resolve and conclude, resoundingly, hauntingly. And I'd buy his trancendental ice cream over Von Trier's cynical swill any day.
100%
The only thing David is trying to ‘sell’ is world peace. I don’t see what’s wrong with that. The man has been a big inspiration for me for most of my life and I don’t see that changing. 😜
Big fan of Lars’ work as well though. I wish him a peaceful and creative mind. 💙
I love David Lynch, and I agree that he earnestly does want to influence the world for the better. But there is also a commercial aspect to it. The stark duality between the sublime and the grotesque (and the resulting tragicomical absurdity) is the essence of the man's body of work, TM included.
@@jordanmoscovitch TM isn't commercial, nor is the David Lynch Foundation.
His hands are shaking and his speech is laboured; he keeps losing his thread. Von Trier explains that the tremors are caused by antidepressants, although they may also be caused by alcohol withdrawal. He is largely sober these days, but recently fell off the wagon. “It’s hard to be in Cannes and not drink,” he says.
looks like parkinsons
You have to drink very heavy to get tremours. And it's very unlikely he would have shown up for an interview in heavy withdrawal. It would be more natural just keeping drinking then. My guess is he's sober, and that this is underlying issues like parkinson.
He has Parkinson's. Maybe that wasn't yet revealed when this video was first posted.
David smiled, enjoying being fitted for his burial suit by some undertakers. While Lars hid in fear like a child afraid of abandonment.
Lars I love your films, but look how long it took you to finish The Kingdom. 😂and by the end, the sum is ultimately not greater than its’ parts. 🤷🏼♀️
Irregardless, I still love The Kingdom for exactly what it is: imperfect perfection…which is the same exact love I have for Twin Peaks. Also, I don’t believe you would have even made the stylistic, surreal masterpiece that is The Kingdom if not for the masterpiece that is Twin Peaks. The influence of Lynch’s groundbreaking show is strongly felt throughout your paranormal wierd strange and wonderful little number. And for those who don’t know: in the 90’s Lars made a Danish show that’s a straight up acid trip, called The Kingdom.
Set in a hospital, with completely unique characters and surreal, unusual happenings, all teetering on the edge of insanity, it remains one of my favorite shows of all time. Interestingly, just like Peaks, it was without a proper ending for literally decades, then finally wrapped up recently…coincidentally just a couple years after Twin Peaks: The Return. 🤔. So Lars, pay homage where homage is due.
And to quote your closing words that played at the end of every The Kingdom episode, never forget to “take the ✝️ with the 😈”….even if it’s in the form of an imperfectly perfect show.
Thanks.
I want to know how Lars von Trier feels about Japanese Godzilla films.
I've long had the feeling that Hideaki Anno is kind of the lovechild of the geek-dom of George Lucas and the crippling depression and religious symbology of von Trier. So the closest view for me would be... Shin Godzilla?
But yeah. Actually hearing the man himself talk about japanese monster flicks would be very interesting indeed.
That's a great idea. I think he'd either say something funny and unexpected or give you a look you'd take to your grave.
love the opening scene of the idiots .main characters tease others but actually you lars tease them (the main characters).. brilliant scene 😍whereas david in twin peaks does slightly different things... what conclusion one can make of waterfalls? this is what david is doing. striving for beauty in every single scene 😍 the way you did in melanсholy 😍
lars are you still meditating ? wonder what way 😂🙊 gosh i mean a good deep sleep is the best way to meditate . love you lars 🌹
I love Lars but gotta disagree with him about all of this. Every one of Lynch's puzzles he has made has a clear conclusion and an answer to all the mystery.
His whole view of Lynch is very weird though... He didn't even finish season 1 of Twin Peaks but then claims that Lynch never could stick the ending..... lol Maybe if he had actually watching the ending before commenting, he would feel differently. Hard to take his criticism seriously when he is criticizing only the parts he hasn't seen.
He said he finished 16 episodes, which is basically the Laura Palmer mystery from beginning to end.
Lynch numerous times said that his projects start with striking images in his brain. His movies are just series of images, you can get any meaning out of them.
That is one thing he has said. He's also stated that his movies have to have a meaning for him in order to construct them and come up with more ideas.
This is what will always separate professionals from amateurs - it is creativity plus logic. As david has said "intellect and intuition working together."
Wrong.
He has also said that every single film he has made makes perfect sense and has a clear conclusion when you put it all together though... He absolutely does start with single images and go from there, but contrary to Von Trier's claim, Lynch always does have a definitely ending... whether you understand it or not is entirely up to you though. He is very adamant that he does put specific meanings in his film and that they are not just open to interpretation. He has stated this in countless interviews.
@@dmstewart66 exactly.
If that were the case he wouldn't bother with a script.
I just want to meet with him once😔
0:09 "We were knocked over by the first Twin Peaks" - I see what you did there, Lars.
7-11 was an inside job
9/11 was a part time job
Get well soon Larsie boy
Riget/the Kingdom rules and Twin Peaks rules.
weird to me that he'd liken Lynch's spreading awareness of TM to "selling ice-cream". That's definitely a him problem. Hiding under a desk to avoid meeting him definitely suggests to me that he's got the wrong idea 😂
J.J. Abrams would go on to turn that Lynchian mystery box thing into an entire industry.
macguffin
.. and take all the mystery out of it ..
With lens flares.
I love both of their work dearly, but Lars' provocateur is on full display here lol. All good though. We know how much Riget owes to Twin Peaks.
I am muy confused about this entire story.
The key is to understand who is dreaming by keeping in mind how dream logic works. By doing this you can "paint" the whole work and it becomes more understandable. So my theory is that the one who dreams is either a rapist with some regrets (the finale emphasizes "some" because what he does to the victim is sadistic) or the one who is dreaming is a rape victim and both versions work. Whoever is ,tries to understand where the evil comes from by messing with metaphysics, but I forgive it because we're in a dream world and the feeling of searching,fear is very much emphasized. From Blue Velvet to Inland Empire and Twin Peaks still Lynch asks the question and this time even mocks the simplistic dream logic with the fist guy,etc. You need philosophy,history,economics to understand "where the evil comes from" and is not Judy,lol,but you can feel the need to know it and fight it,the empathy for the victims.It's about the mood and the question. You can't be serious artist and think you can answer something so complex only with art form.Also Lynch looks really angry,with sharp humor and sensitive to the darkness around him.Philadelphia and New York neighborhoods shaped his dark art.I know new age bs/"transcendental meditation" are stupid but the guy may needs it to not go crazy.
Trier is one of the worse directors i have see with his stupid montage and his shaking camera.If you want the meta element you must find something more clever,this is just stupid crudiness.Antichrist has so f good scenario and actors' direction for example and f it with these two elements.
I guess I do not know how Lars von Trier is doing or anything about his health.
Has he been sick and is recovering?
He is longtime suffering severe depressions and alcoholism. And is under medication. Hard to bear...
He has Parkinsons.
The meds can cause convulsions and even death. Happened to a friend.
But that’s so funny because he still ended up meditating for 15 years now... I kinda did the same thing and now I’ve been meditating for 3 lol
I think his point was not that he was against meditation, but the culty, expensive Transcendental Meditation(tm) that Lynch proselytizes
@@chevon5707 ... there are no meetings.. and there are no directives.. it’s not a cult. You pay your trained instructor once for a 4 day crash course to learn the technique and a specifically chosen frequency based mantra that suits your personality and vibe. But yes the TM people are very nerdy and obtusely normal people. It’s not religion based. It just works. And very well. Stop spreading fud, it’s not a cult. I think the point was that he was a kid and ignorant and it’s funny now because he also does TM. That’s the fucking punch line.
@@devixszell If you say another time "it is not a cult" I'll believe you 😂
@@devixszell I can't find any evidence of Lars Von Trier doing TM. What's your source for saying he does TM?
@@devixszell did you know that despite your instructor telling you it's a meaningless word-sound, your mantra is a direct invocation of a specific hindu deity? no? I'm sure there are more things you'd be surprised that you've been lied to about.
Lars rules ahahah
Wow, comments are so shallow. You better watch fast and furious dudes...
Welcome to today's world. The Internet has given everyone the right to talk, and 99% of us don't have much to say, but want to say it anyway.
you should give us something that isn't shallow then ,or else you are just hypocritically flexing about the great depths of your mind
Actually, Fast and Furious Dudes is a great and profound film about human relationships.
I'm waiting on the more minimalist "Furious Dudes" spinoff, minus all that "Fast and" bruhaha,
Imagine being filtered by fast and furious. Do you need to watch essays to understand films?
He has done some messed up things, has an evil Personality to a certain degree. I think he's the great trickster of the modern culture. But I still Love his art, he's in way more than a film maker, he's like a savior of the modern cinema. He swears being this materialistic Atheist but also manages to make these deep spiritual movies in our time. His playfulness is mind-blowing.
You''re referring to Lars?
@@Garrett1240 for sure he was. Lynch is a sweetheart good boy and no one would said he's evil lol (and i dont even think Lars is "evil" whatever that means)
I had Lars Van Trier all wrong. The Shocks in his film served a purpose to his Depression and Catholic beliefs, that what the Characters were doing was not good. The end of days and judgement, when people loose all Morality. The Trilogy of Depression was Biblical and Satirical including the House that Jack Built. I thought you were a terrible person, but after diving into Psychology, Theology and Philosophy, I get it. Johnathan Swift and George Orwell had to explore these dark themes, when they saw the World go to shit. Skoal or Cheers from America. 🥂🍻🍸🍷🍹
My poor you don't make any sense - especially the part about the ice cream. I met both directors and the winner was… D. Lynch ! He made a more lasting impression on me. And i think he never "sold out", as you may imply here.
dont meet your heros lars
you should know that 😂
Right away, I knew he’d have something negative to say about Lynch.
no matter how big you think you are you NEVER pass on the chance of meeting David Lynch. It's true what you said, you think too much
What’s his boot taste like?
He couldn’t be more wrong about Lynch. And to make a snap judgment just because he was in a room with 2 guys wearing suits is nuts
Who were those two guys? Can you extrapolate that information? I think you can't, that's why your opinion is so bad.
@@limpicatto they were industry executives. What the hell are you talking about?
@@Dispensational_David What industry? Because it wasn't about movies that day. It was the industry of spirituality.
@@limpicatto Jehovah’s Witness?
Is lars ill?
suffers from debilitating depression and anxiety. hence the heavy, unrelenting emotion in his movies
@@verraque Parkinson’s?
@@devixszell effects of meds
@@devixszell seems like it
@@devixszell That's what I thought.
Lynch did a similar thing when he was going to meet Kubrick
Brilliant. I also meditated for 15 years and can't stand someone pushing it as some sort of panacea. Especially religion like TM.
Danish sounds like you're playing a record backwards
In Sweden we say they have a potatoe in their mouth
@@sdfghgtrew That’s funny
it is bad to see this great artist like this...
You do take a chance when you try to meet your idols. I get where he's coming from. I've been interested in TM for some time and hearing Lynch speak so joyfully about it is so tempting but the price tag and the videos on the TM site prove to me that it's a scam. The information on how to learn should be freely given or at least affordable to most.
To any Danes reading this: does the majority of people outside Copenhagen talk this slow? I'm contemplating learning Danish, because it seems more accepting of a slow way of speaking, especially compared to Spanish :)
No, he used to speak much quicker and "normal" (look up old interviews of him) - he's suffering from powerfull trembles which slows him down because of the medication he's taking. But danish in generel is slower than italian and spanish ;)
I love Lars, but he is SO jealous hahaha!!!
Why do you think Lars is jealous? Yes, he doesn't have hits like TP, but his filmography is more robust.
@@AcidelCyqage its a matter of personality, he could have all the awards of the world and still have a jealous personality. DAve Mustaine an incredible frontman and guitar player who create Megadeth, still envy Metallica. Lars is an outstanding filmaker so it is David Lynch... its a matter of the way you see the world around, that comes with you.
And yet, Trier has not produced anything nearly as exceptional as Mulholland Drive, Lost Highway, or Twin Peaks.
Riget exists 🗿
@@drumbottle?🤯🤯🤯 Fucking A. One of the most remarkable, bizarre, shows I've seen
Seeing it stoned and getting pissed? Do so at your own risk of retaining sanity
I never understood why Lynch, who wasn't pleased with the development of the second season of Twin Peaks, that was forced upon him, continued in the same, even more jumbled, vein in 'Fire walks with me' and in the Twin Peaks revival series. And it is also a fact that Riget resembles Twin Peaks a bit in going from the peculiar to the all compassing supernatural, but Riget is much stronger. Concerning the story: is this the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Furthermore, it pains me to see Lars von Trier in this condition, I have had family members being attained by the same illness, and I wish him all the best and much courage.
Season two was like amateur directors trying really really hard to emulate Lynch but failing miserably simply by missing the point of perception. The revival was completely genuine.
@@91bpatrick yes, but still, maybe because of my own expectations I thought I was going to see a closure/resolution of the series or a reboot, but it wasn't either.
@@christophedevos3760 never! Mystery is the spice of life
He's right
It's called film making
Not life making
Looks like Lars von Trier just out-weirded David Lynch
It sounds to me like he has the exact same complaint that anyone who doesn't like David Lynch would have. It's hard to tell though.
Lynch did expect a larger meaning but was not allowed to bring it to fruition by the tv network so he stepped away second season. TP was killed and he never was able to do what he really wanted especially after the film was not well received. The new TP’s in a sense is the exploration of that death. Great example of how this was so ua-cam.com/video/7AYnF5hOhuM/v-deo.html
Pobre hombre, con ese estado de salud cualquiera estaría resentido, incluso al grado de hablar mal de un gran cineasta como Lynch.
Ironically Lars looks and sounds like a Lynch character. 😮
I vastly prefer Lynch's movies to Lars'.
ice cream sellers of the world unite and take over
The fact that Trier hid rather than meet Lynch and the suits confirms to me what an uncompromising genius he is.
At least his ice cream doesn't taste like ash. Poor Trier is still depressed because he chose an ineffective meditation technique. Don't throw the baby out with the bathwater.
Lynch used TM as a method for finding story ideas.
The story shows he was wrong about Lynch from the beginning: The Pilot aside, the credit for the original Twin Peaks should go to Mark Frost as much as (if not more) to Lynch; S2, Fire Walk With Me and The Return are certainly not providing closure - quite the opposite.
I don't really get what he's saying. Is he saying he's admiring Lynch, or is he saying he's overrated, or is he saying he didn't like Jehova's Witnesses? I don't get it. I am hoping he likes Lynch because I love the guy :( And what does he mean he's selling ice cream? I'm so confused
Well there is a danger in making assumptions or having expectations of people and their work Lynch was surreal but didn't look it like Salvador Dali wasn't eccentric and he liked ice cream too and coffee and cigarettes approve or don't it's who he was. As for twin peaks it had a strange daytime soap opera vibe about it so people wouldn't really be satisfied with it's ending some people would watch the young and restless for decades too.
What a strange thing to do. That's one very silly story I heard today. Why would you hide under a table for an hour in such a situation? It's almost like he wanted to live this strange fantasy just to be able to reminisce on it. Maybe it was a more comfortable thought to think he's a quack and to dismiss his work? It sounds like what a very antisocial individual would do.
and lars lars lars
lynch made a masterpiece about studio interference
muholland drive
you know this 😅
I think his perception of Lynch and his work is just the projection of expectations because he doesn't know Lynch very well. He's always been a man selling ice cream to some extent he said for years he likes to go out for chocolate soft serve malts and milkshakes he likes coffee and cigarettes too so I suppose he "sells" or promotes that also. Twin Peaks certainly did have a conclusion if you just view it as a murder mystery about who killed Laura Palmer we know it was her Father just the whole thing was made into a surreal miniseries so there are many dramas unfolding simultaneously. Lynch likes dream like atmospheres and dreams don't always have satisfactory conclusions either it has to do with the subconscious "the owls are not what they seem" and many things are not as they seem. Some things are as they seem but some don't want to see them as they are in Blue Velvet they just want to see the rose bushes not the compost and bugs beneath just the pretty surface picture. Lynch talks about meditation that way too many things beneath the surface the deeper you dive the bigger the ideas.