the fundamentos, have gotten me to master this split, I will never give up my fundamentos. Although I think it's important to take note that league is an incredibly complex game, and what alois says are "fundamentals" are actually fundamental aspects of the game, it's just that the fundamentals of league are very expansive and complex. The reason they constitute the fundamentals despite being so complex is because they're the base of what makes any good league player good regardless of role, playstyle and champion, they're the very fundamentals of the game. Doesn't mean they're easy, just that they're foundational to learning the game.
I totally see your point and agree that there's just so much to learn, getting stuck on what we call fundamental and what we don't ultimately doesn't matter if we want to get better, we have to learn it either way :) Thanks for sharing your perspective!
I don't want to sound like this is hate, but the vast majority of the video feels like it's at odds with the message you were trying to get across. The title of the video implies that watching challengers will not help you improve, or worse that it could actively hinder your improvement. You gave a good example of that with Tyler1 and how his selfish and toxic mental state would be a hinderance if emulated by worse players (or just in general imo) but then go on to also name AloisNL as an example saying that what he calls Fundamentals, are actually already advanced concepts. You are by definition correct, the game of league is incredible complex, but I think you miss the point that it's a very old game and the majority of players are not new. The target audience of this video doesn't appear to be brand new players who just finished the tutorial, yet all the examples and points seem to only apply to those. For example, learning to last hit minions, farming. You discuss the basic of it and consider things such as identifying lane state to be an advanced topic, yet who do you think would be watching challenger players to improve? Billy who downloaded the game yesterday and is still learning the how to control his character? Or Sally who has been hard stuck silver 3 for 2 years after climbing from bronze. Also, on the topic of farming, it is often the advanced topics that control when you can do the basics. For example, if you consider simply killing minions as basics but an enemy laner freezing the lane on you, what do you do? How can Sally improve? Watching AloisNL (seeing as you named him) could give that answer to Sally. Playing many many games will not, going into the practice tool will not, Sally will struggle to find the answer themselves, which is the exact situation where learning what AloisNL calls fundamentals, can help and it's those fundamentals that control so many more aspects of the laning phase. You can only do the basics, when the advanced let you. Next you go on to talk champion mastery and again, start from the very bottom. Yes every player should learn every ability in the game, but for most players I believe that's just implied. No matter the game, most players will learn the basics simply by playing. You will learn what each ability does just by playing the game. It's only really new players who would need to "catch up" in their basic knowledge. For players who are already level 30, already playing ranked, already looking to improve, those players need the other aspects of champion mastery. The aspects of knowing your limits. Knowing your trading patterns. Knowing what is or isn't a good fight or trade for you. And once again, it's those concepts that AloisNL calls Fundamentals. This isn't supposed to sound like a hate comment, nor am I here to defend AloisNL (or his viewers) or condemn Tyler1 (or his viewers). It's more that I think the entire premise of this video is misguided. The information in this video is much more of a "What should new players learn first" type of video and much less so a "What will help you climb" video.
Thank you for the feedback! I agree completely that my target audience for this video was a little all over the place and that's something I need to work on. As for what the rest of what you said, you bring up good points like only being able to do the basics when the advanced let you which is true sometimes but not always, we all miss minions that we should have gotten and my point was more directed at those "free" minions. As for champion mastery, I started at the bottom because while you and I seem to think alike in that it's implied for every player to learn what champions do, that just hasn't been my experience with the community. I know several people who just don't care enough to learn what champions do despite wanting to improve at the game. Again, thanks for your feedback and I hope to see you in the next video's comment section making sure I do a better job haha
another F, be fast, Tempo is still kind of an advanced thing but just knowing when to be fast or slow down is pretty important especially as a toplaner
You forgot to go through another HUGE point. When your champion spike in damage and when to adapt the build, You never see build adapt 99% of league of legends time.
Finally, someone is saying what needs to be said: the reason that challenger who's 2000 LP is in challenger is because he overcame **his** issues. **His** issues are not yours.
I really don't agree with the point of this video. Firstly you are explaining things like "if you dont know all champions and what they do then ..." which is thingy mainly people who are completely new to the game are struggling with , not people who take the game seriously and really want to improve (like gold players) (you have to admit that concept of "learn your champions combos and attack patterns" isnt already clear to everyone above lvl 30) . Also your title is straight up just clickbait because the same things that you say I've heard tens of times from challengers " learn the basics " ," learn how to farm" its not really anything new that challenger players haven't said hundreds of times. It's also missleading because what other way do people above silver have of learning anything ? ... Again not sure who you are targeting with this video since ppl who dont know anything about league aren't looking up how to get better but gl.
Thanks for the feedback! I agree that my target audience for this video is all over the place and I hope to improve on that front. As for the clickbait title, that's just how UA-cam works but I'll try to keep my titles more faithful to the actual content/target audience in the future!
That's fair, I thought about making them full on scenarios but that would have added like 10 minutes to the video, probably should have just cut that section entirely tbh
First of all, Congrats! Second, you're probably not the target audience for this video I was more talking to people in Bronze and Silver, but I appreciate you taking the time to watch anyway
I must understand the inner workings of why you would think that 2800 for 70 ad and 15 ability haste is bait when it gives you a massive dmg boost and a shield while buffing all 5 of your abilities (passive included) and giving you the first item powerspike way earlier than your lane opponent
@@agaed7676 eclipse is an early powerspike that quickly falls off, in diamond and below games very often goes to late, as teams dont know how to use leads to win early, stats wise eclipse gets outscaled really fast as it only gives 70 AD and 15 AH the passive will only proc once and rarely twice during a team fight this late in to the game, i can understand building it in higher elo but in low elo its bait, you are better off with Profane hydra or black cleaver, if you are ahead even more reason to invest on to more expensive items to further snowball your lead.
Sorry mate i am sure you have plenty of interesting things to say, but i think you need to get a mic it i couldt make myself wait 18 min of this audio. Sorry i dont want to be mean.
My left ear enjoyed this
I can hear them in both ears tbh
@@skyrim131 the start yes, skip to like 13 mins, it only plays in your left ear
the fundamentos, have gotten me to master this split, I will never give up my fundamentos. Although I think it's important to take note that league is an incredibly complex game, and what alois says are "fundamentals" are actually fundamental aspects of the game, it's just that the fundamentals of league are very expansive and complex. The reason they constitute the fundamentals despite being so complex is because they're the base of what makes any good league player good regardless of role, playstyle and champion, they're the very fundamentals of the game. Doesn't mean they're easy, just that they're foundational to learning the game.
I totally see your point and agree that there's just so much to learn, getting stuck on what we call fundamental and what we don't ultimately doesn't matter if we want to get better, we have to learn it either way :) Thanks for sharing your perspective!
I don't want to sound like this is hate, but the vast majority of the video feels like it's at odds with the message you were trying to get across. The title of the video implies that watching challengers will not help you improve, or worse that it could actively hinder your improvement. You gave a good example of that with Tyler1 and how his selfish and toxic mental state would be a hinderance if emulated by worse players (or just in general imo) but then go on to also name AloisNL as an example saying that what he calls Fundamentals, are actually already advanced concepts.
You are by definition correct, the game of league is incredible complex, but I think you miss the point that it's a very old game and the majority of players are not new. The target audience of this video doesn't appear to be brand new players who just finished the tutorial, yet all the examples and points seem to only apply to those.
For example, learning to last hit minions, farming. You discuss the basic of it and consider things such as identifying lane state to be an advanced topic, yet who do you think would be watching challenger players to improve? Billy who downloaded the game yesterday and is still learning the how to control his character? Or Sally who has been hard stuck silver 3 for 2 years after climbing from bronze.
Also, on the topic of farming, it is often the advanced topics that control when you can do the basics. For example, if you consider simply killing minions as basics but an enemy laner freezing the lane on you, what do you do? How can Sally improve? Watching AloisNL (seeing as you named him) could give that answer to Sally. Playing many many games will not, going into the practice tool will not, Sally will struggle to find the answer themselves, which is the exact situation where learning what AloisNL calls fundamentals, can help and it's those fundamentals that control so many more aspects of the laning phase. You can only do the basics, when the advanced let you.
Next you go on to talk champion mastery and again, start from the very bottom. Yes every player should learn every ability in the game, but for most players I believe that's just implied. No matter the game, most players will learn the basics simply by playing. You will learn what each ability does just by playing the game. It's only really new players who would need to "catch up" in their basic knowledge. For players who are already level 30, already playing ranked, already looking to improve, those players need the other aspects of champion mastery. The aspects of knowing your limits. Knowing your trading patterns. Knowing what is or isn't a good fight or trade for you. And once again, it's those concepts that AloisNL calls Fundamentals.
This isn't supposed to sound like a hate comment, nor am I here to defend AloisNL (or his viewers) or condemn Tyler1 (or his viewers). It's more that I think the entire premise of this video is misguided. The information in this video is much more of a "What should new players learn first" type of video and much less so a "What will help you climb" video.
Thank you for the feedback! I agree completely that my target audience for this video was a little all over the place and that's something I need to work on. As for what the rest of what you said, you bring up good points like only being able to do the basics when the advanced let you which is true sometimes but not always, we all miss minions that we should have gotten and my point was more directed at those "free" minions.
As for champion mastery, I started at the bottom because while you and I seem to think alike in that it's implied for every player to learn what champions do, that just hasn't been my experience with the community. I know several people who just don't care enough to learn what champions do despite wanting to improve at the game.
Again, thanks for your feedback and I hope to see you in the next video's comment section making sure I do a better job haha
Almost 3k views. That’s awesome dude!
another F, be fast, Tempo is still kind of an advanced thing but just knowing when to be fast or slow down is pretty important especially as a toplaner
You forgot to go through another HUGE point.
When your champion spike in damage and when to adapt the build, You never see build adapt 99% of league of legends time.
I feel like that's a whole separate video, in fact, it's on my list of topics to discuss one day!
The Encyclopedia is open. Because reading is what? Fundamental
Finally, someone is saying what needs to be said: the reason that challenger who's 2000 LP is in challenger is because he overcame **his** issues. **His** issues are not yours.
Damn, summarizing my whole video in one sentence haha
@@leagueencyclopedia3841 It's not the size of the truth it's the need if the words. good work steve!
good video, don’t listen to the negativity in the comments, and continue uploading and improving your content!
Thanks I will, although all the negativity that I see is mostly about audio issues which is fair haha
My skill level is diamond and i still struggle with farming.
That's wild, but hey you must be doing something right, get better at farming and you'll be Master haha
can you send your opgg? i really doubt a diamond player struggle with farm
Great video
Me: "Wait, i quit LoL a month ago, what tf im watching this?
haha thanks for tuning in anyway!
people are hearing this in their left ear? i got it on my right
Great vid bro, more useful than you're run of the mill challenger coaches that's for sure XD
I only agree with the video because it inherently disagrees with what most redditors would say
I really don't agree with the point of this video. Firstly you are explaining things like "if you dont know all champions and what they do then ..." which is thingy mainly people who are completely new to the game are struggling with , not people who take the game seriously and really want to improve (like gold players) (you have to admit that concept of "learn your champions combos and attack patterns" isnt already clear to everyone above lvl 30) . Also your title is straight up just clickbait because the same things that you say I've heard tens of times from challengers " learn the basics " ," learn how to farm" its not really anything new that challenger players haven't said hundreds of times. It's also missleading because what other way do people above silver have of learning anything ? ... Again not sure who you are targeting with this video since ppl who dont know anything about league aren't looking up how to get better but gl.
Thanks for the feedback! I agree that my target audience for this video is all over the place and I hope to improve on that front. As for the clickbait title, that's just how UA-cam works but I'll try to keep my titles more faithful to the actual content/target audience in the future!
In short, this video is aimed towards brand new players to the game. Misleading video/title. Listen to challenger players.
I will flight in the 3 cases provided because lack of information.
That's fair, I thought about making them full on scenarios but that would have added like 10 minutes to the video, probably should have just cut that section entirely tbh
As someone who got challenger solely off watching challenger macros this just is wrong lmao
First of all, Congrats!
Second, you're probably not the target audience for this video I was more talking to people in Bronze and Silver, but I appreciate you taking the time to watch anyway
tbf you dont watch sro or t1 to improve. you watch obscure asian onetricks streaming your champ or obviously good and versatile edu creators
Farming, fighting, FFing
I was close
can you please stop talking in my left ear
I think this is a you issue I did not hear it from my left ear
@@AllieBat bruh I've listened on 2 different devices and 2 different headphones, bgm is in both ears, audio isnt
I hear it in both equally. Mine have bluetooth and support location based audio
@@novanomi3362 Weird, to be more specific I listened with a hyperx headset on pc and earbuds on phone
@@novanomi3362 Parts with gameplay footage are terribly made soundwise and vocals are only in left ear
1:00 i know, 😢
terrible mono audio torture but good points
its all about the matchmaking, if you play 3000 games a season, you will reach challanger wiith a 50 percent winrate
no you wont. the vast majority of people will stagnate after a maximum of 300 games, in gold.
eclipse is bait, nothing you can say can change my mind.
I must understand the inner workings of why you would think that 2800 for 70 ad and 15 ability haste is bait when it gives you a massive dmg boost and a shield while buffing all 5 of your abilities (passive included) and giving you the first item powerspike way earlier than your lane opponent
@@agaed7676 eclipse is an early powerspike that quickly falls off, in diamond and below games very often goes to late, as teams dont know how to use leads to win early, stats wise eclipse gets outscaled really fast as it only gives 70 AD and 15 AH the passive will only proc once and rarely twice during a team fight this late in to the game, i can understand building it in higher elo but in low elo its bait, you are better off with Profane hydra or black cleaver, if you are ahead even more reason to invest on to more expensive items to further snowball your lead.
Sorry mate i am sure you have plenty of interesting things to say, but i think you need to get a mic it i couldt make myself wait 18 min of this audio. Sorry i dont want to be mean.