00:00:00 - Poser! 00:00:57 - Ari Shaffir Owns This Song 00:01:37 - Intro 00:09:30 - Skeptic Tank Episode 490 Starts Now! 00:40:30 - Thank you sponsor! 00:43:38 - Back to episode 01:01:11 - ARI SHAFFIR JEW! 01:02:11 - Back to episode 01:57:00 - This Song Is Owned By Ari Shaffir 01:57:21 - Outro
The complete derailment of the pod when Ari asks them what a quintessential hardcore song is, leading to almost no agreement on what hardcore is, is peak hardcore kids.
@@Ruintekif they grew up in the north-east, that shit was all over the place. I was personally just into straight up punk, but a lot of my friends were/still are into HC & Ive seen many of the bands from that time. And many of the dudes in those bands have diverse tastes as well...
Hardcore is og. They don't really know hardocre because they never said guilty of being white...insane. they need to watch the documentaries i watched in high school. My fav genre. Bad brains. Descendants, minor threat ssdeconteol. I love how they dont cover the actual hardcore straight edge band that made it crazy.
Punk Rock albums everyone needs in their record collection. Bad Brains- Banned In DC, Rock For Light Black Flag- The First Four Years, Damaged, Dead Kennedys- Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetable’s FEAR - The Album Fugazi- 13 songs LP Misfits- Collection 1 & 2 Minutemen- Paranoid Time ep, Double Nickels on the Dime Minor Threat- Two 7” LP Operation IVY- Energy
@@Sprite_525 I didn’t know Ari was so oblivious about underground music I was thinking he’s in the know. He always talks about lcd sound system, few other alternative and indie rock bands, but then not knowing about punk and hardcore, and he’s my age. I just assumed. It’s still fine I’m not some punk snob, that’s for children. He’s still cool, evil, but still cool. Hehe ok not evil, more like a trickster.
i'm currently having my own personal hardcore revival at age 35, after falling off for a few years,but holy shit so much good shit coming out these days. Ian is the most relatable comic/podcaster I know of, good shit.
Ian and Jordan are the perfect combo, reminds me of hanging with my best chick friend back in the day the humor and chemistry is so similar. Except both of us hate ska lmao
Hardcore was my life when I was in my teens(still listen to now), and now it's comedy has been a big part lately. So this episode is pretty iconic to me.
Honestly, Ian describing shows and pits is making me nostalgic as fuck. Best thing in the world is embracing the fucking random person you've never met and sharing that moment of bliss being engulfed in the music
these three are individually some of the most funny people to me, and it's so crazy when you put them in a room they just spend two hours listing hardcore and punk bands that they like to eachother. not that i'm complaining lol.
Last time i saw them my friend got hit in the head by a garbage can and right after a goat head landed right next. Crazy Ian brought that band up. .. hellfest04 was nuts too.
I think you meant you saved your marriage but the podcast helped haha what you said is like the crazy whackos being like I thank god for the triathlon I ran and won even tho i did the work thanks god 😂
I love Ian Fidance so much. In another life he is Ian FiNance and he is a completely different person whose a wealthy Jewish economist/investor but instead he is Ian FiDANCE who was a passionate punk kid and later stand up comedian.
This is a masterclass description or rather a love letter to music and going to shows. After all the BS the past couple of years I've been to at least 20 shows this year and most of them being hardcore or metal shows. You guys described it beautifully.
Dean Koontz is highly slept on. I found him because of Phantoms the movie. That movie reminded me so much of the game Silent Hill for some reason, and ironically the streets in Silent Hill 2 are named Koontz, King, Crichton. Weird.
i love this episode so much. I broke my ankle crowd surfing at a Less Than Jake and Suicide Machines concert in 2001. Two days before I started grade 11. Man i miss those times.
Ian I have been earching forever for the explanation on how you got the Lumineers to sing your intro....I can finally sleep, praise to Ari shaffir. Goodnight.
These guys should thank Ari... since Ari stopped this show I have pretty much directly had enough time in a week to devote to their podcast Bein' Ian with Jordan which is really great ❤
The record stores were why music was better before the internet. The damn algorithm only gives you things they think you'll like because it's similar, but so many bands were inspired by shit that was totally different than them, and like Ian said, they would shout them out in record notes
You are using the internet wrong. There is so much diy music (the fucking heart and soul of punk) available if you aren't lazy about it. What are you into? If it's something that fits this pod. Try Viagra boys, shrimp sessions.
Grew up in NYC and grew up on the periphery of the scene. I was more of a metalhead. but when every time Ian would say "do you remember...." I remember them all.
The most quintessential hard-core band is Black Flag. They're the fucking Beatles, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc of Hard-core Punk. Their albums are above a beyond anything else within that era or scene.
The change of pace in the beginning makes me giggle. All up beat and fast and loud, then he talks about the cost of his special, and inadvertently activates The Jew. After that it’s slow, quiet, can’t find the words, as his Jew brain is fixated on the cost.😂
Just to clarify... Ska dates back to 50s Jamaica and predates Reggae. 2nd wave was primarily in UK and fairly similar to original. 3rd wave is what they are speaking about on this podcast
Ari could not give less of a fuck about punk even though he owns a Television album which some would argue are one of the progenitors of New York alt-punk. But still nice to listen to Ian’s mania combating Ari and Jordan’s monotones.
I saw Ceremony open for American Nightmare 2 weeks before covid lockdowns(still the last concert I have been to) and they played a bunch of like new wavish music I had never heard from them and one old hardcore song, really bummed me out.
Yeah I don’t don’t think they will ever play w Violence Violence track again. Caught them back when that album came out and they were a totally different band live
Ian is the best. I could talk about this shit with him for hours. shout out to the Pilfers! so underrated. "Chawalaleng" is a fantastic example of genre-blending successfully. 🤘🏻
I can't wait for your special to come out. I saw it live in Ohio when you were working it out and it was great then, I'm sure it'll be even better now.
Really appreciate someone bringing light to something that been such a big part of my life. If you’re reading this and you’ve never listened to hardcore look up ‘trial - are these our lives’
Trial is dope. I met the singer from Trial at a house show in Seattle, and he was wearing a shirt with Kurt Cobain on it that said “I need drugs like I need another hole in my head”.
Dave Attell described Ian Fidance as "the onlyest child" and it's the greatest possible way to summarize his personality. Also, I think he actually looks even more Jewish than Ari.
@1:42:08 ever heard that when animals yawn it’s a sign of nervousness? Theory goes animals do this when they’re nervous to signal a calming action so any potential conflict can be chilled out. It makes sense bc yawns *are contagious
The easy baseline definition of hardcore that I've always gone with is that it's essentially a faster heavier version of punk. You can go more granular than that but I feel like the essence of it is the most important. Genre and subgenre debate is one of my least favorite parts of music discussion.
@@pauly1013 Hardcore is actually anything between 160-200 bpm in any genre of music. That's why you have hardcore techno and other things. Hardcore is a wide definition in reality though. Minor Threat is hardcore. The slow heavy stuff you're thinking of is likely metalcore. Earth Crisis being a good example. Firestorm is an amazing song.
they seem to be into a lot of kinda corny punk and hardcore for the most part, and the ska that ian references are atrocious . and ari bringing up skid row two separate times is hilarious .
I love rap because it can be a very stressful mental exercise to understand what they're saying and how they're saying it especially at the pace if at triple time. The more you listen to it the easier it is to understand and I swear it does something to the way you think. Makes you quicker with your thoughts
I love that Ian is such a hardcore fan. Vision of Disorder was one of my favorites from long island. Ari, "we're the brews(jews), wearing anti-swastica tatoos. Hey! Hey!" And il never forget the wall location we had, used to let you listen to cds before you bought them. Hindsight, i feel bad for how much work i made for those clerks re wrapping cds. Sry for the long rant. Nostalgia is a mafucker.
00:00:00 - Poser!
00:00:57 - Ari Shaffir Owns This Song
00:01:37 - Intro
00:09:30 - Skeptic Tank Episode 490 Starts Now!
00:40:30 - Thank you sponsor!
00:43:38 - Back to episode
01:01:11 - ARI SHAFFIR JEW!
01:02:11 - Back to episode
01:57:00 - This Song Is Owned By Ari Shaffir
01:57:21 - Outro
Ari says "umm" about as much as rappers say the N-word
@@Entertainment-bp7sm you seem tedious
15:21 Ari, look at Jordan. Is she vaccinated?
jewish people are the opposite of punk
You know your like ratio is way better than Rogans clip channel. 1k out if 34k views. Rogan has 20k out of 3 million
Ian has grown on me so much. Such a sweet and genuine dude.
Yeah he's an adorable cross-eyed moron
I’ve had the opposite experience
FA6
I hated him at first, but i like him a lot now.
@@suncat5160 hated him?? I loved him since I first saw him on stavros with Jordan. He was so adorable, and still is.
These two are great together, manic and chill. Being Ian... with Jordan! *meow*
It should just be that, it's funny as hell.
Dude was wet in the pipi region
Lol you mean me-an-ian haha. I just binged being ian yesterday and today
The complete derailment of the pod when Ari asks them what a quintessential hardcore song is, leading to almost no agreement on what hardcore is, is peak hardcore kids.
arent they mixing up hardcore punk and hardcore metal? i thought current 'hardcore' was an amalgamation of the two.
they arent hardcore kids though, they are hot topic poppunk kids that just found something new york was known for
@@Ruintek wouldn't be hardcore if there wasn't some gatekeeping lol
@@Ruintekif they grew up in the north-east, that shit was all over the place. I was personally just into straight up punk, but a lot of my friends were/still are into HC & Ive seen many of the bands from that time. And many of the dudes in those bands have diverse tastes as well...
Hardcore is og. They don't really know hardocre because they never said guilty of being white...insane. they need to watch the documentaries i watched in high school. My fav genre. Bad brains. Descendants, minor threat ssdeconteol. I love how they dont cover the actual hardcore straight edge band that made it crazy.
Punk Rock albums everyone needs in their record collection.
Bad Brains- Banned In DC, Rock For Light
Black Flag- The First Four Years, Damaged,
Dead Kennedys- Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetable’s
FEAR - The Album
Fugazi- 13 songs LP
Misfits- Collection 1 & 2
Minutemen- Paranoid Time ep, Double Nickels on the Dime
Minor Threat- Two 7” LP
Operation IVY- Energy
I'll add "Some Old Bullshit" by the Beastie Boys. And also "Drop Dead" by Siege. And also Death from Detroit.
No uk punk?! Cmon! You gotta have Subhumans. They are like the best fucking punk band ever.
Negative Approach
@@Sprite_525 I didn’t know Ari was so oblivious about underground music I was thinking he’s in the know. He always talks about lcd sound system, few other alternative and indie rock bands, but then not knowing about punk and hardcore, and he’s my age. I just assumed. It’s still fine I’m not some punk snob, that’s for children. He’s still cool, evil, but still cool. Hehe ok not evil, more like a trickster.
Sloppy Seconds holds up
i'm currently having my own personal hardcore revival at age 35, after falling off for a few years,but holy shit so much good shit coming out these days. Ian is the most relatable comic/podcaster I know of, good shit.
Have you checked out Militarie Gun?
@@vampire1630 yeah I just recently found out about them from some sound & fury videos.
Ian and Jordan are the perfect combo, reminds me of hanging with my best chick friend back in the day the humor and chemistry is so similar. Except both of us hate ska lmao
It is a highly gay form of music
So you're the gay guy and she's your hag?
@@alexhaile7957 Can I recommend: Arrogant Sons Of Bitches. Might be a ska band you can say you actually like. Amazing band.
Like punk and metal. Hate ska
Been a Hardcore Kid for 20 years. CTHC. Ian and Jordan fucking rock, and great comics. Instantly in love with Jordan, of course.
Same, smitten. She’s rad.
The way Ian shakes his leg when he wants to talk hits so close to home lol. I’m shaking my leg as I’m watching this
Hardcore was my life when I was in my teens(still listen to now), and now it's comedy has been a big part lately. So this episode is pretty iconic to me.
Honestly, Ian describing shows and pits is making me nostalgic as fuck. Best thing in the world is embracing the fucking random person you've never met and sharing that moment of bliss being engulfed in the music
At Skankfest Vegas I took a picture with Ari and my Kobe Bryant tattoo! It was epic! He told me he’d piss on it! 😂
these three are individually some of the most funny people to me, and it's so crazy when you put them in a room they just spend two hours listing hardcore and punk bands that they like to eachother. not that i'm complaining lol.
Bein Ian with Jordan is the best and funniest title.
23 minutes in and just noticed Ari's t-shirt. Magnificent.
I zoomed in and read it. awesome
🤣
Dude Ian was spot on with bad luck 13. Some of the scariest shows I’ve ever been to. This was also 15-20 years ago.
Last time i saw them my friend got hit in the head by a garbage can and right after a goat head landed right next. Crazy Ian brought that band up. .. hellfest04 was nuts too.
As a member of a pop punk band for over 30 years and a huge fan of all 3 of these killer comedians, this Episode warms my heart!
Bein Ian with Jordan is the greatest podcast ever, it saved my marriage! #basement
#basementcarl
I think you meant you saved your marriage but the podcast helped haha what you said is like the crazy whackos being like I thank god for the triathlon I ran and won even tho i did the work thanks god 😂
Bahahahaha Morrissey married 🤣💦💀
I love Ian Fidance so much. In another life he is Ian FiNance and he is a completely different person whose a wealthy Jewish economist/investor but instead he is Ian FiDANCE who was a passionate punk kid and later stand up comedian.
This is a masterclass description or rather a love letter to music and going to shows. After all the BS the past couple of years I've been to at least 20 shows this year and most of them being hardcore or metal shows. You guys described it beautifully.
Converge is my favorite band. Than k yu ian for bringing up the 🐐 s
Jordan and Ian's friendship just takes over any pod 😂😂😂😂, I love them so much
I’m the drummer for Bad Luck 13, haha, I love all of this and all of you. Come get weird with us!!!!
As a teen I would block out the chaos by blasting Pennywise and reading Dean Koontz novels. What a time the 90's were for punk.
lmfao
No RL Stine? Lol
Dean Koontz is highly slept on. I found him because of Phantoms the movie. That movie reminded me so much of the game Silent Hill for some reason, and ironically the streets in Silent Hill 2 are named Koontz, King, Crichton. Weird.
@@helpis0ntheway RL Stine was for children.
i love this episode so much. I broke my ankle crowd surfing at a Less Than Jake and Suicide Machines concert in 2001. Two days before I started grade 11. Man i miss those times.
Ian I have been earching forever for the explanation on how you got the Lumineers to sing your intro....I can finally sleep, praise to Ari shaffir. Goodnight.
These guys should thank Ari... since Ari stopped this show I have pretty much directly had enough time in a week to devote to their podcast Bein' Ian with Jordan which is really great ❤
The record stores were why music was better before the internet. The damn algorithm only gives you things they think you'll like because it's similar, but so many bands were inspired by shit that was totally different than them, and like Ian said, they would shout them out in record notes
You are using the internet wrong. There is so much diy music (the fucking heart and soul of punk) available if you aren't lazy about it. What are you into? If it's something that fits this pod. Try Viagra boys, shrimp sessions.
Thanks for the shoutout. BL13
Are you in the band? Lol
I was.
Grew up in NYC and grew up on the periphery of the scene. I was more of a metalhead. but when every time Ian would say "do you remember...." I remember them all.
I think I’m in love with Jordan... No, never mind. Wait, yeah I am.
This was such a trip down memory lane for me and all the hardcore shows I used to go to
The most quintessential hard-core band is Black Flag. They're the fucking Beatles, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc of Hard-core Punk. Their albums are above a beyond anything else within that era or scene.
@Robert Swaine Big Black were fucking phenomenal, but I guess I never thought of them as hard-core.
1:47:00 "no it's from now, on your mark, wait from now" from Jordan was hilarious!!!
My wife and I just went to see Less Than Jake with Bowling for Soup headlining, and we both left about 3 minutes into Bowling for Soup's set.
LTJ rules but Bowling for Soup can kick rocks :)
@@Joyceages Can confirm
The change of pace in the beginning makes me giggle. All up beat and fast and loud, then he talks about the cost of his special, and inadvertently activates The Jew. After that it’s slow, quiet, can’t find the words, as his Jew brain is fixated on the cost.😂
i went to punk and hc shows in MD starting in '97, brings back alot of memories. and jordan is gorgeous
Poor Jordan. Me 'n Ian makes perfect sense! Give the woman her win!
Just to clarify... Ska dates back to 50s Jamaica and predates Reggae. 2nd wave was primarily in UK and fairly similar to original. 3rd wave is what they are speaking about on this podcast
Varials and Knocked Loose also honorable mentions for best hardcore today.
I remember falling asleep to liquid swords all the time when I was younger that album and dmx's it's dark and hell is hot
Love this episode! I've been a hardcore kid for around 25+ years. Can't wait to watch that new special, Ari!
The delight on Ari’s face when Jordan says on your mark, get set, go
Was super stoked for the topic but that dude is a lot to handle.
Thanks for the podcast!
Acacia Strain is definitely hardcore/metalcore. Quintessential to the genre
Yeah these guys really have a surface level knowledge of the topic at one point he said acacia strain was screamo
Loved this podcast... any topic besides comedy is great!
Ari could not give less of a fuck about punk even though he owns a Television album which some would argue are one of the progenitors of New York alt-punk. But still nice to listen to Ian’s mania combating Ari and Jordan’s monotones.
Jordan Jensen is amazing....!
This is Ian’s origin story episode. ❤
I saw Ceremony open for American Nightmare 2 weeks before covid lockdowns(still the last concert I have been to) and they played a bunch of like new wavish music I had never heard from them and one old hardcore song, really bummed me out.
Yeah I don’t don’t think they will ever play w Violence Violence track again. Caught them back when that album came out and they were a totally different band live
Ian is the best. I could talk about this shit with him for hours. shout out to the Pilfers! so underrated. "Chawalaleng" is a fantastic example of genre-blending successfully. 🤘🏻
I can't wait for your special to come out. I saw it live in Ohio when you were working it out and it was great then, I'm sure it'll be even better now.
Stunned by the OpIvy references! Yeah, we love our hometown heroes. Great episode
I love Jordan!
Really appreciate someone bringing light to something that been such a big part of my life. If you’re reading this and you’ve never listened to hardcore look up ‘trial - are these our lives’
just re bought that cd along with snapcase - progression through unlearning. good stuff.
Trial is dope.
I met the singer from Trial at a house show in Seattle, and he was wearing a shirt with Kurt Cobain on it that said “I need drugs like I need another hole in my head”.
I loved Ian dancing to the music we could barely hear around 1:04:02
I CAN NOT FUCKING WAIT FOR AS:J!!! I'm so excited that there's finally a release date for this special, this will be a fucking monument in history!!
this was awesome love when comedians talk about music. or have musician guests. siik
Broooooooo I love these two. Just started and I already love this episode!!!! 😊
I was hoping Jordan would expound on the Industrial she's been getting into lately! Right up my alley!
Its cool finding ian an jordan, it combines my two loves of hardcore an comedy
There is hardcore ska (Leftover Crack, Choking Victim) great bands
This podcast was amazing it made me revisit when I was 14 and heard screaming weasel let the sun shine in thank you so much I needed that so bad
Dave Attell described Ian Fidance as "the onlyest child" and it's the greatest possible way to summarize his personality.
Also, I think he actually looks even more Jewish than Ari.
In Worcester Boston, we had ECW and then WAAF real rock tv.
Much respect to Ian for keeping the memory of The Tink’s Vid Dream alive!
I know this is a late post but "Pleased To Meet You is a great example of what hardcore is.
Ian and Jordan are my new favorite podcast pair
I love Ian xFIDANCEx even more now knowing that he was also a dorky hardcore kid getting spinkicked in the face.
On today's episode of Skeptic Tank, two oriental shorthairs talk too a Labrador retriever
I grew up in the punk scene in 80s DC - this podcast made me feel like I needed to up my game. Don't know half the bands they're talking about
Stoked that you gave Ali siddiq’s story a shout out. That’s one of my favorites.
the glory hole discussion was unexpected 😂
50:58 It's Josh Homme of QOTSA you're trying to think of.
"Punk is whatever we made it to be." - D. Boone, Minutemen
@1:42:08 ever heard that when animals yawn it’s a sign of nervousness? Theory goes animals do this when they’re nervous to signal a calming action so any potential conflict can be chilled out. It makes sense bc yawns *are contagious
So glad to hear the Hardcore scene explained in depth. Fuckin love Ian! Been a hardcore for decades. It's so misunderstood as a genre.
Really glad I tuned into yt version. That title card was awesome
The easy baseline definition of hardcore that I've always gone with is that it's essentially a faster heavier version of punk. You can go more granular than that but I feel like the essence of it is the most important. Genre and subgenre debate is one of my least favorite parts of music discussion.
Exactly. well, for older dudes anyway. Younger fans consider hardcore to be slow and heavy. To me that's just bad metal!
@@pauly1013 Hardcore is actually anything between 160-200 bpm in any genre of music. That's why you have hardcore techno and other things. Hardcore is a wide definition in reality though.
Minor Threat is hardcore. The slow heavy stuff you're thinking of is likely metalcore.
Earth Crisis being a good example. Firestorm is an amazing song.
This is going to be a banger!!!
Jordan momentarily abandoning the pod to try and lure Bandit over was very wholesome
I LOVED this ep!
Streetlight manifesto for the absolute win by the way
"Life is shit but, I'm positive"
Damn I forgot how much I liked this intro song 🍻
Was really hoping for a Fishbone mention! Great episode
they seem to be into a lot of kinda corny punk and hardcore for the most part, and the ska that ian references are atrocious . and ari bringing up skid row two separate times is hilarious .
25 Ta Life - Friendship, Loyalty, Commitment is probably a pretty accurate representation of what Hardcore music is
I really, really like Jordan. Didn’t know her before BIWJ. Quick rise!
Her appearance on ykwd was pretty solid also
her cumtown episodes are hilarious
She can get it FR
@@chucklefucks8399 id like to join that party
Ska is one of my favorite genres of music. Skankin' Pickle and Let's Go Bowling are two of the best bands.
I desperately need that pic of them photoshopped into the have heart show.
Lamb of God
This is a great episode!
I love rap because it can be a very stressful mental exercise to understand what they're saying and how they're saying it especially at the pace if at triple time. The more you listen to it the easier it is to understand and I swear it does something to the way you think. Makes you quicker with your thoughts
I love that Ian is such a hardcore fan. Vision of Disorder was one of my favorites from long island. Ari, "we're the brews(jews), wearing anti-swastica tatoos. Hey! Hey!"
And il never forget the wall location we had, used to let you listen to cds before you bought them. Hindsight, i feel bad for how much work i made for those clerks re wrapping cds. Sry for the long rant. Nostalgia is a mafucker.
coming from an ageing punk rocker... good podcast...
Love the punk rock talk... 🦾👽🦾 Personal favs, misfits, bad brains, nofx, op ivy
1:28:11 Growing up extremely devout Mormon in Utah, and now growing weed in Oregon; I feel this so hard on BOTH sides.
Love the punk conversation.
The song Ian is looking for is, the color of money by bury your dead