1. Isn't also this like the third time that they say goodbye? It has started to lose its effect tbh. I think at the end nothing is going to happen, i also can't take the whole situation seriously anymore. All of that is such a circus 2. I'm glad they're showing a new side, but it's still not that good. And yeah, they been nominated for anything is really funny 😂 8. Yves it's so amazing ❤ i love all her songs
@@SimonBreizh they posted something yesterday where there was 5 suitcases.. like leave hybe and go with ur p*do mom, let the other idols get some peace too
The girls arent dumb and the fact that you think hybe cares for newjeans rven after everything that has come out is just plain delusional and insulting.
@@Ushionai this is the problem with most Bunnies, if someone says one bad thing about MHJ you all automatically assume that someone is supporting Hybe, and no, that's not how it goes, there can be more than one bad guy and MHJ is one of the bad guys here
Some of yall don't understand business. The richest and highest people in every industry are not clean and good people.Companies see being good and moral as a disadvantage and gets you no where big. For example look at Trump , definetly not a good person but knows how to do his job and gets votes. Without doubt MHJ is good at her job and you don't get such talent easily and hybe was willing to give her what she wanted to get her. And clearly with newjeans it paid off.
Yes, it's not the best place to be. Then it depends on character, who are the members, how's the agency, etc. Two very simple examples: BTS and SHINee.
1. At this point the girls are old enough to be able to question the people in their management (including MHJ). Clearly those girls haven’t cause they seemed to be trapped in an echo chamber of false confidence, or should I say “cockiness”. All this BS started over MHJ’s greed & Hani feeling ignored ONE time so she cried wolf.
@@ZeeZee.kif hybe wanted to get rid of them they would not have gave them a new ceo and they would have filed a lawsuit because of the bs they did which go against the contract like the youtube live they did
The NJ girls are really coming off tooooo arrogant to me, crying for a pity party while playing with fire against HYBE (they could have distance themselves from MHJ for the public eye at least but decided not to, so assume consequences girls). I like their songs but I just can't support their mess they brought on themselves... Bunnies tend to protect them by saying they are manipulated by MHJ, but are they really ? Also not forgiving toxic bunnies for the hate they brought on ILLIT, not acceptable. I'll be fine when they disband (what are they waiting for anyway ? seems like they want to have their freedom, but oh wait a minute HYBE is giving them exposure and schedule actually even after all the rumors of cancelling them they're pretty busy, now what? I can't with girls living for drama)
I'm neither on NJ or Hybe sides just enjoy this drama over popcorn. But til this day i still don't understand NJ's mistreatment narrative. I'm pretty sure they get the best of the best treatment and resource at ADOR while MHJ was still the CEO like iphone and coca cola endorsement. But suddenly, their parents came crying mistreatments left and right and everyone just believe them?
1. It's embarrassing with a costume of empowering and I can't take with bunnies thinking they slayed 😑 MHJ, NJs and bunnies want to cause all the DRAMA MA MA MA
Honestly, seeing idols at kgma from previous generations, or those who didn't have much impact this year, trying to gain sm and newjeans fans' attention by siding with them and mhj-especially when they regularly target illit, bts and le sserafim, really left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing felt incredibly staged, and their willingness to act in that way made me wonder if some of these idols are just plain greedy or easily brainwashed
Yeah and i wonder why nj went because hybe cut ties with kga after they mistreated hybe artists and published anti hybe articles that is why they were the only hybe group there
idk in my opinion the other idols don't know much about the hybe drama except that newjeans is fighting against hybe. And as idols they know what it's like to be under a bad company so that's why they're blindly siding with NJs because they believe hybe is actually mistreating them. After all those idols don't have much time to research about it + they'll be more biased towards the idols than the company + and some of them are friends with NJs/ like them
@@hiyylightI really want to know what other hybe groups think about this. I'm sure their opinions might be different than idols that aren't in hybe. But im really not sure.
1. imagine debuting in a big company with an amazing song that trended all of a sudden they said your group copied but whatever it has nothing to do with you but your company everyone starts insulting you and calling you fake, copy, unoriginal. but whatever it would all fade away within months. the hate intensifies and you were accused of being a group whose manager mistreated a 'princess' but whatever you didnt do anything wrong senior artists hoping to us the special groups fans to trend or be a good person speak out about them but not about the hate you are getting, but its okay your company is made some mistakes suddenly special group decide to leave the company which their fans have been urging them to do , but noooo another hate wave from their fans because apparently you chased them and are trying to replace them. all this while no senior kpop idol spoke up about your hate , that shows how terrible the kpop idols that spoke up for the other special group are. because they dont care about the hate you are getting. illit have gone through a lot and it pains me to see that only their ceo is speaking out for them, even when he does he is accused of media play. i hope artistes become good people and speak out and against their own fans attacking illit. i wish this my comment will go viral.
the award show that decided to invite nj but no hybe artist is just terrible. what did they do. i hope south korea punishes their rich and influential people or people that commit sa as serious as they are tryig to wipe hybe artist that was immature and obviously to prove they are on the right side.
before blinks attack me and saying im attacking rose im not rose answered that dumb question correctly what was she meant to say "oh i hate hybe, fvck that stupid company" or "nj are entitled dumbasses" no, she answered like a mature adult that she is saying "i love them" but bunnies take this is a support, they are just pathetic nincompoops
yes, I'm really sorry for her, the last time Iroha cried, netizens blamed her for pretending and apart from Hwasa, I haven't seen any other celebrities supporting them even though there are many who support new jeans.
Hwasa has publicly said that she wants to collaborate with them, but unfortunately no one else. On the other hand, the other group seems to be sprouting support like mushrooms, they have sold the idea that they are victims very well.
@@nobadreviewshere It's not that the move was going well for them, from what I read, it had capacity for 15,000 people but only about 5,000 people attended
2. Nah i wish "Body" or "toxic" was their debut song instead of meow. If promoted better and properly, those wouldve done so much better as well. Teddy should work more on promoting them properly imo
No way. I completely disagree. BODY and TOXIC are terrible debut songs. People would've SHAT THEIR GUTS on them if BODY was their debut song because the song sounds like a rejected BP song. TOXIC sounds like a B-side or a pre-release for an album. And TOXIC ain't even a song that's debut worthy.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_sounding like a rejected bp song isnt necessarily bad yk👀 i see majority liking these songs tho, especially toxic. People r comparing them to meow, some r saying they r much better than their actual debut song. And personally, toxic/body over meow anytime anyday >>>>>
@@Gojo-ki-poookieHonestly, I see it the other way around. When a song sounds like it could've been rejected by Blackpink, it just reflects poorly on the group. I mean, take BATTER UP for example-when it dropped, people instantly slapped that “BP reject” label on it without hesitation. It didn’t help BM’s image; it just gave people more reason to criticize. The only ones really into BODY are die-hard MEOVV fans who’ll hype up anything, even if it’s just another recycled BP track. They don’t care if it’s mediocre as long as MEOVV’s name is slapped on it. It’s like they’ll eat up whatever TEDDY puts out, even if it’s just the same old stuff with a different title. The bar is so low that as long as it's familiar, they’re sold, even if everyone else can see it’s just a copy-paste job.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ its quite obvious why some songs by girl groups under yg/ black label will be associated with blackpink regardless. But its the yg formula tbh. But that doesnt mean any song with that formula is just-bad? Considering different music tastes is a key thing here as well. We cant just slap the "oh- bp reject = bad " since there r people who arent fans but who genuinely like these songs better than their actual debut (including me). Its kinda generalizing to say anyone liking that song is a die hard fan. Meov is yet to establish a discography anyway. Remember teddy is yet to put out a whole album with enough bsides for us to judge wether he uses bp formula or there is a variety. How can we say all that when this group legit has only 3 songs rn.
@@Gojo-ki-poookie I get what you're saying about the "YG formula" naturally connecting these groups to Blackpink, but I still think it's more complicated than that. When a song heavily resembles BP’s style, people aren’t just “associating” it with Blackpink-they’re outright saying it sounds like something Blackpink would’ve passed on. That’s different from just following a vibe or concept. It's like these songs don’t just remind listeners of Blackpink; they actually feel like leftover tracks, which ends up reflecting poorly on the group. Sure, people have different tastes, but there's a difference between genuinely loving a song and hyping up anything just because it’s from a familiar producer. With MEOVV’s BODY, a lot of the positive feedback does seem like it’s coming from die-hard fans who’ll hype up anything tied to TEDDY, whether it’s fresh or not. And if we're being real, the "YG formula" has been recycled so often that it feels lazy rather than exciting. So when listeners label a song as a “BP reject,” it's not necessarily because they dislike the YG sound-they’re picking up on how formulaic and repetitive it’s become. And, yes, MEOVV has only three songs so far, but that’s exactly why these early releases matter. If TEDDY’s introducing them with tracks that immediately draw “Blackpink reject” comparisons, it’s hard not to wonder if this will be the trend for their future music. We don’t need a full album to see the direction; the pattern’s already there in these initial songs, and it’s not setting MEOVV up to stand on their own feet.
@@w0nyst0e Honestly, as someone who’s been a victim of manipulation, I don’t fully agree with the idea that we 'can’t blame them too much.' While manipulation is powerful and can blind u to reality, there comes a point where u need to reflect on ur actions and the consequences they might have had on others. Being manipulated doesn’t absolve someone of responsibility when they cross certain lines. It’s complex, but brushing it off as 'not their fault' feels dismissive to everyone affected, including the victim themselves.
1: It's honestly no shock that they're still holding on to Min Hee-jin and even thanking her. They seem to genuinely think they can't succeed without her guiding hand. This is the result of MHJ's influence so don't get surprised. These girls are WAY better off without MHJ. MHJ is just a dark cloud that looms over them. They sure will have a contract termination, but this won't be an easy way there. If anyone thinks that this will be easy for them then I'm sorry, y'all just lack intelligence.
What’s horrifying to me is how they have no real support system. Everyone from the CEO’s to their own parents see them as piggy banks. Their best interests come after that. On top of that, they entered and grew up in this industry so young. I can’t imagine what this training, public attention, harassment and battles will do to their mental health. Minors-especially as young as they were-shouldn’t debut. Period. Hell, Don’t even think about going into this industry unless you’re self reliant and can get the representation you deserve.
@@giovannabenso1754 all the girls sans minji were minors when the debuted. They trained for longer. Most of them are legally adults now, but they still lack independence and adult experience.
1. njs fans crying about ppl pointing out that these women (believe it or not, their childish concept can only fool y'all to a certain point) desperately destroy their own careers over an old obsessed woman when they could just look forward and grow from there on but bye bye🥱🥱
if i were newjeans, i would probably have believe mhj at first, considering theyve def been groomed. but once my entire COUNTRY and MORE were telling me she was in the wrong, i would start to reconsider. and you cant even claim this is an age thing, bc im the same age as danielle. these girls are old enough to consider both sides of an argument.
no the thing is no one except hybe and belift is telling them they are wrong. South Korea is siding with NJS, bunnies are, and most fandoms except armies, fearnots and glitz are supporting them. So naturally they will be way over their heads
NJ did not ‘flop’ this year. So what it was not as ‘viral’ as get up, both their Korean and Japanese albums this year performed amazing. How sweet was only beaten by supernova a monster hit. If this is your idea of flopping you’re delusional.
The newjeans situation is getting so old everytime I hear new news about it I just sigh like it's so annoying every two weeks there's something new like atp just stop wrap it up
3. Okay so intl fans are too forgiving but this one time we're not forgiving SM for what happened to Seunghan suddenly we're the villains and we need to let it go
1. Yeah they screwed themselves over and they aren't innocent as well since they stood by mhj as she harmed the other groups and they're showing that they are entitled brats like even at that awards show they took Gidle seats and fans trying to say they didn't know when they ran right to their assigned seats so they knew what they were doing they think they're more important than they actually are because mhj got them like that and even she bashed them but hey she's leading them into fire.
6. That's so true! Also these number obsessed fans will try to gaslight u into feeling bad if u don't take the time outta ur day to stream 30x a day for the soloist.
6. Mhm, there'll always be one or two members that'll have solos selling more than solos of other members. It all comes down to the popularity. Expecting solos to make as much as the group projects is far fetched tbh. Its rarely the case
Getting 10 daesang all brand deals strong fandom in 2 and half year not joke maybe it's payola or something but their attention omg hybe boy cookie eta ditto are famous but other songs are lower that lowest still they got strong support and awards I mean we need to study them
I will say this again. Kpop Stan’s were against Mhj and nj when they started bc of her pedo allegations and they were from hybe . Now that they are against hybe all of a sudden all kpop industry is supporting them.. that channel “Angelina girl” doing videos dressed as Mhj like this is some kind of joke, reading nj fans comments as if is the real facts.. is getting annoying how hypocritical kpop and nj fans are getting. Still no real proof that hybe is throwing them to the dust . Now they are looking for validation from other idols that mentioned nj in support. Is ridiculous. I want them gone already.
2. teddy needs to stop use the same formula over and over just bc it's somehow catchy - it's annoying and will only be seen as a bp copy. don't get me on the "we are rich and brats and have more money but don't rlly have more to offer" trope yg rides it's boring.
@@justhope227 people were saying that that ceremony was organized or something like that by a MHJ's friend.... i don't know if that's true, but it's definitely sus
6: No. Not clownery. ✨ DELUSIONAL✨ Thinking every member will hit the same level of solo success is honestly a bit delusional. Each one has different strengths, fanbases, and vibes, and not all of that translates when they go solo. A lot depends on timing, the music they release, and how the industry responds, which just isn’t going to be the same across the board. Expecting them all to blow up equally? That's just not how it works.
I don’t know how I feel about you putting “it’s what they deserve” in your thumbnail cuz they don’t deserve any of this both the adults in this situation aren’t doing their proper jobs. At the end of the day they were minors so I understand why they felt that way. The girls need to realize not even minhjin (or whatever her name is) doesn’t care about them
this youtuber and her followers are very anti newjeans, even with the hybe leakage of data they were in denial. They think NJ is equally as reliable for ador and hybe's public feud as MHJ or hybe officials. Its better to let them be than trying to reason with them.
2: I’d say TOXIC really suits Narin. She’s able to put so much feeling into her singing, and you can genuinely feel it through her voice. The song itself is simple and has a calm, sad vibe without being too intense. I like the rhythm-it gives space for their vocals to shine. Plus, I heard Narin and Gawon helped write it, which is honestly a solid start for them. Overall, it's a decent track from them. It's not bad or terrible like MEOW. That song is just TOO UNBEARABLE for me.
Well, let's not excuse the main ones, which are their parents and relatives, who should be taking care of them and it seems that they are only there for the money and influence. The future does not seem very promising for them, but time will tell.
I'm starting to think MHJ must have something on the parents or the girls themselves. I can't understand why the parents/girls would go to these lengths over one person. They can't be stupid enough to think their kids will still have careers after everything is settled and done. I guess we won't know the whole truth until the girls themselves decide to speak up, now might be too soon cause they're complicit in all of MHJ's schemes but years from now they'll probably try to blame everything on her and write a book called "How one woman ruined our lives."
kinda wanna see them in the future finally realising the witch MHJ is and hope they apologise to the ppl they hurt. Would be amazing if they can be friends with Illit later on
Bro I can't even use the excuse that NJs are young so they don't understand that what min heejin is doing is wrong, like Im younger than all of NJ and even I can tell that Min heejin is messed up, it's common sense, I love NJ so much but now they've decided to fumble their career for some petty woman, I really don't want to see them go, but it's what they brought upon themselves :\
I will say, I agree but keep in mind that they’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes ya know?
2: Icl, TEDDY is failing these girls. I like TOXIC, but BODY & MEOW are absolutely disappointing. They're giving a group of talented girls, mediocre song's AND on top of that, TEDDY ain't even promoting them like a normal company would do for their newly debuted groups.
I also like what you said about Yves. She’s the only Loona member who really is doing something extremely different than the rest of the girls and I’m proud of her for it. Her music personally isn’t my cup of tea, but I can’t deny her artistry. As for TripleS I’m seriously agreeing with you. I wish they would’ve stuck with the main units that lead up to the debut. Everyone knows them and it would have been fair for all the members. It’s starting to feel too messy…and idk how to truly feel about it :/
4: It's definitely a fat flex but Idk, their discography is kinda meh? I would've waited another year or so and let them go on a world tour 🤷🏻♀️ It's a bold and confident move for YG todo, but I'd still wait anyways.
#4 Expected The world tour from Yg for Babymonster, Yg needs MONEY... Yg is running on losses, treasure's tour isnt enough for them to survive neither does bm's cbs bringing in huge profits
Which company doesn't need money with all the investment made on bm especially 😂I think the tour is a good idea but it's going to take a toll on the girls,wish them all the best
1. In my opinion I feel like people are not seeing their situation through their perspective and are attacking them without understanding what they probably know. I'm not gonna lie Mhj is a genius and is good at what she does, she wasn't hired by hype for no reason. And knowing now that Hybe employees and BSH aren't really fond of new jeans, it makes sense why new jeans are so strong on their stance with MHJ. And let's says before BSH and hype employees didn't hate them and they lied about the isolation, then now they definetly do . From their current perspective, there is no going back, their image is already tarnished and it's either they try and keeping fighting on their stance or lose everything without a fight. Regardless of what decision they choose they are gonna lose everything. Just one decision they have somewhat control over.
Bro how do you know bang pd and hybe employees hate them ? You bunnies always say that but have no proof and yet say mhj is their mother when it was sent to court her messages calling them fat pigs and stupid brats
finally someone with a level headed opinion. I'm not really siding with the girls, since they are on MHJ's side and im never gonna side with pedophiles, but people need to stop calling them brats and bitches when the really manipulator is MHJ
1. MHJ is not the genius she wants to be thought of ( find out why she lost her job at SM) 2. MHJ and her online minions they bullied other HYBE's groups 3. Old Pants had special treatment, please watch their videos before their debut, during their debut . Just a few examples (they have/had their own make-up room in the HYBE building, or even the entire floor where their staff currently works/worked , accommodation in a luxurious district, the space in which they live, being ambassadors of famous brands Hanni for Gucci, Armani Beauty and UGG, Hyein for Louis Vuitton, Danielle for Burberry, YSL Beauty and Celine, Minji for Chanel Korea and Haerin for Dior) 4. Isolation from the rest of the artists - YES at the request of the "Mother of Cookies" , now it is understandable that other groups and their management are distancing themselves 5. MHJ Involving "Old Pants" members and their parents in conflict with HYBE - "yes she protects them" from the evil and unjust HYBE, I beg you, have mercy 🤣 This woman "cares" so much about band members (that she did not accept the offer to be their producer, she only wants to sit on the board, she needs $$$, that's why she wants to return to the CEO position) she drags them with her and when they are no longer needed she will get rid of them. And this last statement and subsequent "conditions" (among others ) An apology for "insulting/ignoring" and of course the return of MHJ to the CEO chair, which was not even sent to ADOR but to the media 😆 The only sad thing is that the girls think (this is what I conclude from their statements) that without MHJ they would not have been successful Maybe they will have a hard landing (I hope so), let them live the life of average 20-year-olds, without privileges Maybe the rest of the artists will finally take a break from this drama (all the above info. are available also in Korean)
@@magda1986ify She is just stirring up this whole media storm to distract people from the original reason she will never be allowed to be the CEO again, which is because she was caught planning a hostile takeover of the label. The court ruling found "it is evident that Min Hee Jin sought ways to weaken HYBE’s control over ADOR and allow Min Hee Jin to control ADOR independently by either taking NewJeans out of HYBE’s control or pressuring HYBE to sell its shares in ADOR,"
I don't know what to say about the NJ matter because what are they doing I will not even say I feel bad for them cause I don't they were stupid from the very beginning The moment they pulled off that livestream I know that it was the end for them
It’s about time. I’ve genuinely never been more annoyed and tired of drama more than this They are blowing it far more out of proportion, their statement alone shows how much they do not care for their career and what will soon follow after this. HYBE better let them go, as they say. *Be Careful For What You Wish For*
I actually liked "Toxic" but _that_ noise in the background (idk how to describe it, but I hope you know what I'm talking about) gets on my nerves so badly that makes me wish I was deaf
I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a rattly bass or something and it’s an instant migraine trigger. The song was ok but that noise ruined any chance I had of liking it.
yves’s album is phenomenal, i looove then artists have their recognizable sound and identity, and you can feel it, i love all the songs especially hashtag, f amazing 😭
The comment section here shows that mature PPL still exists . Also nj will not end or disband i think it's yet another play Also the video of other idols reacting to them shld not be such a shock coz yes at some point the companies do treat artist in a bad way and by saying those things on stage maybe they gained some sympathy for the fact that they as an artist if they are gone will be bad but that doesn't justify their illogical demand that is clearly unprofessional.
Toxic would have been better if the chorus was actually memorable. I listened to the whole song waiting for the chorus to come but it never did. It was very confusing.
Even I'm getting sick of this word flopping. Do you know what that means flopping Is when a group or an artist Isn't selling albums at all. Look at EXO A group who sells millions of albums. their solo careers Members have platinum albums. and million seller albums And big music video Views. And solo Concerts selling out. So How is that a flop That's success
mhj created new jeans as a whole can we blame them for sticking with mhj ?! hybe is not going to do anything about them the bias for mhj is not going to change the fact that they are in a better hand sticking with mhj succes and financialy
Well it's not even true that most of her learning was thanks to Source Music, she wasn't even in the equation yet. HYBE gave her the resources and she chose the girls she wanted, the team and had a lot of budget. MHJ hasn't provided anything financially, it's been HYBE's money and thanks to the contacts of this company, who were able to have such good contracts with brands. If they leave, they will have to start from scratch, but without that financial cushion, without their songs, without their name, they will be left only with the lady's wit. They want to be with her, it's their decision, I hope they don't regret it later because MHJ won't look at them if they don't get any results, she will tell them "I think it's time to let you go" and she will start with another group.
2. TOXIC was a nice upgrade, i love the softness of the song and the MV is gorgeous but BODY tho... when will teddy stop with his ass formula bro! we don't need more bp rejects. I didn't who made IZNA'S DEBUT SONG but it gave me very teddy vibes (not a compliment) and after checking the writing credits, yep i was right. I just have a genuine question, when will this dude stop using his songs from 2016 and actually make something that meets this generations standards?? the MEOVV girls actually seem like talented idols that deserve so much better than the crap this dude is pulling. Their stage performances are the only thing carrying the group on its back, without the girls themselves this group would have been a complete FLOP!
1. At first I felt sorry for them, but each time it seems like a group of brats who think that everyone has to obey them, because it's the second time they make those imperatives, what did they expect?? That they were going to say: "no, no, don't go, without you the company doesn't exist..." or they were going to let them go with their name, songs and everything, just because of their pretty face, with the money they have invested in all of it. I suppose that if they really fulfill their ultitatum this time, the difficult part will begin for them, until now they have been respected for being important artists for the company, but if they declare war, I doubt very much that they will continue to protect them. 2.It's clear that they don't deserve the nomination, not yet at least. They are a group that has potential, but so far everything they have released is forgettable. 4. Another YG group that they aren't managing properly, it seems like they need cash now that Blankpink isn't in the equation, but they are rushing them into everything. 9. Fans are not an eternal cash cow, so many comebacks in such a short time will have the opposite effect and they will sell less and less.
They’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes.
Toxic is genuinely so soft and I can’t stand it. Like the couldn’t chose between ballad or pop song. Like I’m not a hater and I’m one of the few people who enjoyed MEOVV but this oof it fell short
groups only include certain foreign / international fans we get one concert a year by a few groups if that it feels as though i do not need to care too deeply if i cannot go to such concert either due to the expence they demand from fans to spend even though i can use my own money to get there with all the fees it just isnt worth it anymore. i cannot even be arsed to travel to london as thats where they mostly go for most of their "world" tours so even if i want to like a group or two in the end if they arent including us lot outside of london or main cities they are scamming people forcing them to travel far and wide to go see them. and to also not have time to genuinely meet other fans spend time in their areas makes me less keen on spending on those richer groups who already have so much money i dont feel like i need to give them more except for groups i genuinely love. but even then they still give us the bare minimum no fanmeets nothing to make us truly feel as we have a connection to them in person. b o r i n g.
If new jeans disbands it'll be really hard for them to redebut , even if a company shows interest in them knowing these girls they'd probably ask that companies ceo to make mhj the ceo while mhj itself has 15 lawsuits to deal with
To be real all this situations not going to happen if Min Heejin didn't cause a chaos from beginning.Despite their huge popularity and influence, I didn't expect them to fall so fast in just a 2 years.
Sure looks like they’re falling 😂😂😂 what are you rambling on about? You do know, if they leave hybe, it’s not going to do anything for your faves, right?
Baemon’s tour is a strategic move by YG imo. Instead of sending them to the end of year award shows their goal was to get them known internationally. I respect YG expanding out of Korean popularity.
I think it's more than that, we're not going to promote them, we're going to fill our pockets. To fill a concert, people have to know you beforehand, it's not a promo, if people don't know you beforehand, they won't pay to see you.
2. I don't think so toxic is such a good song especially for the winter fits the vibe and lyrics makes since is not that cringe lyrics that yg puts Gawon and Narin wrote the song and you can see that because toxic has a good meaning while Body is short but is still good yes still has that brag that yg and tbl like to give but at least they are not talking about money this time
I was so shocked when I saw like 10+ kpop idols post support for NewJeans. And no hate but I was like ummm did yall not do research? This was bound to happen
The only one, not doing their research is YOU😂😂😂 where is the support from people from all over the world (in the industry) for lsfm and illit, btw? 😂😂😂
How can NJ trust hybe after their leaked document... And even bunnies are happy that they are getting out of hybe... Them supporting mhj is not a bad thing...hype mistreated NJ since their debut bro...(if you really see mhj press conference instead of those few secs manipulating tiktoks u will understand)
People are treating them like poor little angels against the big bad Hybe and was forced to threatened their contracts. No. They made a CHOICE. literally no one asked them or push them to do so.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ si son tan talentosas y tienen a los Bunnys, lo pueden pagar, en cuotas , que les vaya bien y que se queden lejos de todos los artistas de Hybe.
it is morbidly funny watching ppl support a corporation that has teenagers under practically an indentured servitude. instead of listening to what the idols are saying, the "omniscient" social media like this channel or supposed fans, are sure the girls don't know better. It doesn't matter if the MHJ is a devil incarnate or an angel, any idol should have a say in what, whom, where and when they should work. it is utterly ridiculous that anyone is for the corporates that has a history of abusing their idols. "How dare they think to break their contract to hybe co. they are over!" straight out of the hybe p.r.
Ellas firmaron un contrato, con beneficios, por trabajo. Si no lo hubieran querido, no tenían que firmar y siempre han tenido trato privilegiada, aún mejor que otros grupos dentro de Hybe 😂
4) Try as hard as they want, YG's knock-off version of XG, Babymonster, will never reach the level of XG. The only thing Babymonster has that XG don't is that they have a huge fan base from BLINK and YG stan.
@harussanihassan518 funny how XG is currently on a world tour, and YG suddenly announced that Babymonster is going to be on a world tour soon. Coincidence?
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL so group that gonna do world tour are consider as xg knockoff or what lmao. Plus YG already announced before this in youtube chanel that baemon gonna hold their world tour early next year. Theres no reason yg want to copy xg for world tour. Plus its not like xg is that big for yg to copy them lmao
@harussanihassan518 it's also funny how XG is a global girl group and after Babymonster debuted, YG suddenly announced that Babymonster is also a "global girl group" If that isn't "COPY CAT," I don't know what is.
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL lmao wht kind of fact is that? The fact that xg debut 2 years early than babymonster, so why the hell yg want to copy xg. N how 2 year difference is 'suddenly'? How old are u kid?😂
1.Oh so now Hybe is the "good guy" in the NewJeans drama just because they give MHJ the producer spot? Gotcha. I can't literally take seriously some of you people takes on NewJeans anymore, like you sound just like straight up you hate the girls ngl You just can't see the bigger picture about all this drama, and all you can yapp about is MHJ, it's just boring at this point, like don't even talk about them if you have to talk about MHJ every single time, like we get it, you don't like her lol 2. Bruh, this is literally why I can't take your """""""""""""""""""opinions"""""""""""""""""""" seriously, whatever you are yapping about "Toxic" just doesn't make any sense, you either have the music taste of a 12 y.o or you are just rage bating at this point, and don't give me that "it's just opinions" cause you are literally yapping nonsense, the song is literally full of emotions, you either are a freaking microwave with no emotions, or even my walls has more empathy than you, melodies are literally what are making the songs so good, especially that chours, it's so simple but yet so strong and soulful. The song itself is very unique for many aspects, vocal colors, melodies, harmonies even the adlibs. Songs don't need to have 200 different beat drops, or 200 different sounds to be good, sometimes keeping it simple is the key especially when you have such GREAT and unique voices in a group.
Well, NJ's last demand in her ultimatum was the return of MHJ as CEO or they would leave the company. How do you expect people not to mention her, if she is the main reason they are leaving???
@@MarcondirondirondelloDid you really read it? Their last demand is reinstatement of former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin. That same MHJ whom they thanked at their last awards ceremony and who they continue to refer to as CEO even though they have had another one for months, whose full name Hanni still didn't know.
TripleS feels like somebody took NCT concept and turned it into chaos. It took SM few years to realize that graduation system doesn't work the way they expected and it took them even more years to ditch the infinite concept and finally announced last team to be made (NCT Wish). So we'll see how long it will take TripleS's agency to figure out how to manage the group, its subunits and activities
old shorts lol 2. Meovv is just another product of big data oin whats trending and whats popular. ppl say they are talented, i agree, but who arent, when u r in this arena of survival? there are only a very few groups out there that are churning out music with souls and personalities, and meovv isn't one of them , not yet anyways.
2: TOXIC>>>>>>>>BODY. BODY wasn’t really my thing-it actually gave me serious BLACKPINK vibes. The beat sounded a lot like "How You Like That," so I’m guessing it might be a recycled track. The lyrics didn’t do much for me either; I found the chorus pretty cringey, to be honest. Also, I heard that Tommy Brown wrote and produced it-the same guy behind Ariana Grande’s "Thank U, Next," "7 Rings," and BLACKPINK’s "Ice Cream", so I'm not too surprised as to why it reminds me of BLACKPINK.
Min Heejin has the "if I can't have them, no one can" mentality
No one cares
this really describes situation of mhj
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
Wtf are your rambling on about 😂😂😂 worry about your faves 😂😂😂
@@KingAda35th our faves arent disbanding and supporting p3do who told female staff to suck her sa up
I don't feel bad for them anymore tho. Their parents? Stupid. The members? Need therapy. Min Heejin? Needs jail time.
This comment‼️ I always say they need therapy, ppl want them to start all over but it’s not that simple.
Yeahh!!! 😂
No one cares
@@ville-c4uno one cares
@@ville-c4u no asked you to care 🥱
1. Isn't also this like the third time that they say goodbye? It has started to lose its effect tbh. I think at the end nothing is going to happen, i also can't take the whole situation seriously anymore. All of that is such a circus
2. I'm glad they're showing a new side, but it's still not that good. And yeah, they been nominated for anything is really funny 😂
8. Yves it's so amazing ❤ i love all her songs
Yeah seriously, at this stage if NewJeans want freedom they can just disband and put a stop to all this mess
@@SimonBreizh they posted something yesterday where there was 5 suitcases.. like leave hybe and go with ur p*do mom, let the other idols get some peace too
But to terminate fee they had to pay huge chunk of money
No one cares
@@ville-c4u and yet you're here...
The girls are blindly supporting MHJ and that's the problem
Honestly poor future anyways
The girls arent dumb and the fact that you think hybe cares for newjeans rven after everything that has come out is just plain delusional and insulting.
@@Ushionaithey never mentioned that they believe Hybe cares for them…
@@Ushionai Where’d they say that in their comment? They didn’t even mention Hybe’s name😭
@@Ushionai this is the problem with most Bunnies, if someone says one bad thing about MHJ you all automatically assume that someone is supporting Hybe, and no, that's not how it goes, there can be more than one bad guy and MHJ is one of the bad guys here
How was Min Heejin even Ceo in the first place? She was a weirdo ever since she worked with SM..💀
Yeah, idk wth Hybe was doing. 😭 obviously not caring about the safety of idols now look where it got them🤦🏽♀️
Some of yall don't understand business. The richest and highest people in every industry are not clean and good people.Companies see being good and moral as a disadvantage and gets you no where big. For example look at Trump , definetly not a good person but knows how to do his job and gets votes. Without doubt MHJ is good at her job and you don't get such talent easily and hybe was willing to give her what she wanted to get her. And clearly with newjeans it paid off.
@@BabyDanny_ it is definitely a lesson learned to hybe i think bang pd needed it
@@Arielaarmy-k7i I agree🫡
@@BabyDanny_ REAL Like are we forgetting what happened with Red Velvet and Taemin?
All this New Jeans situation proves us that minors DO NOT belong in this industry
YES
Even so, minors can survive if the adults around them dont pull some sht (including the parents)
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
Yes, it's not the best place to be. Then it depends on character, who are the members, how's the agency, etc. Two very simple examples: BTS and SHINee.
1. At this point the girls are old enough to be able to question the people in their management (including MHJ). Clearly those girls haven’t cause they seemed to be trapped in an echo chamber of false confidence, or should I say “cockiness”. All this BS started over MHJ’s greed & Hani feeling ignored ONE time so she cried wolf.
HYBE literally wants to get rid of them what do you want them to do, stay there?🤨
@@ZeeZee.k If they'd wanted them gone they wouldn't have offered their former ceo a position in the company.
@@ZeeZee.kif hybe wanted to get rid of them they would not have gave them a new ceo and they would have filed a lawsuit because of the bs they did which go against the contract like the youtube live they did
@@ZeeZee.kgive this fake narrative yall made up a break. If hybe wanted them gone they would’ve been gone MONTHS AGO
@@Iammvonn I swear, just imagine if hybe was SM. NJ would be gone by now
The NJ girls are really coming off tooooo arrogant to me, crying for a pity party while playing with fire against HYBE (they could have distance themselves from MHJ for the public eye at least but decided not to, so assume consequences girls). I like their songs but I just can't support their mess they brought on themselves... Bunnies tend to protect them by saying they are manipulated by MHJ, but are they really ? Also not forgiving toxic bunnies for the hate they brought on ILLIT, not acceptable. I'll be fine when they disband (what are they waiting for anyway ? seems like they want to have their freedom, but oh wait a minute HYBE is giving them exposure and schedule actually even after all the rumors of cancelling them they're pretty busy, now what? I can't with girls living for drama)
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I'm neither on NJ or Hybe sides just enjoy this drama over popcorn. But til this day i still don't understand NJ's mistreatment narrative. I'm pretty sure they get the best of the best treatment and resource at ADOR while MHJ was still the CEO like iphone and coca cola endorsement. But suddenly, their parents came crying mistreatments left and right and everyone just believe them?
You cant possibly be this stupid? Holy shit 😂😂😂
@@meh7497 Same.
according to hanni, not getting greeted back is bullying and she is getting "bullied"
@ do some research, before embarassing yourself 😂😂😂
they definitely were not getting treated the best any point in their career.
New jeans playing thé victime for th 100 Time. 😂😂😂
They won't have my sympathy but good luck for them
Den wtf Hybe play ???....mehhhh
@@ZareSamo-cn8pri guess the big bad company who wants to crush them inspite of getting $4M each 😂
I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
They are a liability
1. Thanking OUR CEO
are these girls this delulu.. WHICH CEO😅, that pdo lady was kicked out from the position months ago😂
BYE BYE NEWJEANS💃💃
😂😂😂 its okay buddy. Maybe one day youll make some friends (?). Maybe a woman will talk to you. (?) who knows.. 😂😂
1. It's embarrassing with a costume of empowering and I can't take with bunnies thinking they slayed 😑 MHJ, NJs and bunnies want to cause all the DRAMA MA MA MA
No one cares
@@ville-c4uyou are everywhere, bro.. seeking attention like nobody cares about you irl
@@ville-c4u Them why you comment if you don't care 💅 ?
@@ville-c4ulooks like you care tho
Learn some english, or buy a chatgpt subscription! 😂😂 wtf are you rambling on about 😂😂😂
Honestly, seeing idols at kgma from previous generations, or those who didn't have much impact this year, trying to gain sm and newjeans fans' attention by siding with them and mhj-especially when they regularly target illit, bts and le sserafim, really left a bad taste in my mouth. The whole thing felt incredibly staged, and their willingness to act in that way made me wonder if some of these idols are just plain greedy or easily brainwashed
Yeah and i wonder why nj went because hybe cut ties with kga after they mistreated hybe artists and published anti hybe articles that is why they were the only hybe group there
idk in my opinion the other idols don't know much about the hybe drama except that newjeans is fighting against hybe. And as idols they know what it's like to be under a bad company so that's why they're blindly siding with NJs because they believe hybe is actually mistreating them. After all those idols don't have much time to research about it + they'll be more biased towards the idols than the company + and some of them are friends with NJs/ like them
@@hiyylightI really want to know what other hybe groups think about this. I'm sure their opinions might be different than idols that aren't in hybe. But im really not sure.
😂😂😂 yeah buddy, the entire world has been brainwashed … it for sure isnt you, and all of the other glitt and fearnot incels 😂😂😂
1. imagine debuting in a big company with an amazing song that trended all of a sudden they said your group copied but whatever it has nothing to do with you but your company
everyone starts insulting you and calling you fake, copy, unoriginal. but whatever it would all fade away within months.
the hate intensifies and you were accused of being a group whose manager mistreated a 'princess' but whatever you didnt do anything wrong
senior artists hoping to us the special groups fans to trend or be a good person speak out about them but not about the hate you are getting, but its okay your company is made some mistakes
suddenly special group decide to leave the company which their fans have been urging them to do , but noooo another hate wave from their fans because apparently you chased them and are trying to replace them.
all this while no senior kpop idol spoke up about your hate , that shows how terrible the kpop idols that spoke up for the other special group are. because they dont care about the hate you are getting.
illit have gone through a lot and it pains me to see that only their ceo is speaking out for them, even when he does he is accused of media play. i hope artistes become good people and speak out and against their own fans attacking illit.
i wish this my comment will go viral.
the award show that decided to invite nj but no hybe artist is just terrible. what did they do.
i hope south korea punishes their rich and influential people or people that commit sa as serious as they are tryig to wipe hybe artist
that was immature and obviously to prove they are on the right side.
before blinks attack me and saying im attacking rose
im not
rose answered that dumb question correctly
what was she meant to say "oh i hate hybe, fvck that stupid company" or "nj are entitled dumbasses"
no, she answered like a mature adult that she is saying "i love them" but bunnies take this is a support, they are just pathetic nincompoops
yes, I'm really sorry for her, the last time Iroha cried, netizens blamed her for pretending
and apart from Hwasa, I haven't seen any other celebrities supporting them even though there are many who support new jeans.
Hwasa has publicly said that she wants to collaborate with them, but unfortunately no one else.
On the other hand, the other group seems to be sprouting support like mushrooms, they have sold the idea that they are victims very well.
@@nobadreviewshere It's not that the move was going well for them, from what I read, it had capacity for 15,000 people but only about 5,000 people attended
2. Nah i wish "Body" or "toxic" was their debut song instead of meow. If promoted better and properly, those wouldve done so much better as well. Teddy should work more on promoting them properly imo
No way. I completely disagree. BODY and TOXIC are terrible debut songs. People would've SHAT THEIR GUTS on them if BODY was their debut song because the song sounds like a rejected BP song. TOXIC sounds like a B-side or a pre-release for an album. And TOXIC ain't even a song that's debut worthy.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_sounding like a rejected bp song isnt necessarily bad yk👀
i see majority liking these songs tho, especially toxic. People r comparing them to meow, some r saying they r much better than their actual debut song. And personally, toxic/body over meow anytime anyday >>>>>
@@Gojo-ki-poookieHonestly, I see it the other way around. When a song sounds like it could've been rejected by Blackpink, it just reflects poorly on the group. I mean, take BATTER UP for example-when it dropped, people instantly slapped that “BP reject” label on it without hesitation. It didn’t help BM’s image; it just gave people more reason to criticize. The only ones really into BODY are die-hard MEOVV fans who’ll hype up anything, even if it’s just another recycled BP track. They don’t care if it’s mediocre as long as MEOVV’s name is slapped on it. It’s like they’ll eat up whatever TEDDY puts out, even if it’s just the same old stuff with a different title. The bar is so low that as long as it's familiar, they’re sold, even if everyone else can see it’s just a copy-paste job.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ its quite obvious why some songs by girl groups under yg/ black label will be associated with blackpink regardless. But its the yg formula tbh. But that doesnt mean any song with that formula is just-bad? Considering different music tastes is a key thing here as well. We cant just slap the "oh- bp reject = bad " since there r people who arent fans but who genuinely like these songs better than their actual debut (including me). Its kinda generalizing to say anyone liking that song is a die hard fan. Meov is yet to establish a discography anyway. Remember teddy is yet to put out a whole album with enough bsides for us to judge wether he uses bp formula or there is a variety. How can we say all that when this group legit has only 3 songs rn.
@@Gojo-ki-poookie I get what you're saying about the "YG formula" naturally connecting these groups to Blackpink, but I still think it's more complicated than that. When a song heavily resembles BP’s style, people aren’t just “associating” it with Blackpink-they’re outright saying it sounds like something Blackpink would’ve passed on. That’s different from just following a vibe or concept. It's like these songs don’t just remind listeners of Blackpink; they actually feel like leftover tracks, which ends up reflecting poorly on the group.
Sure, people have different tastes, but there's a difference between genuinely loving a song and hyping up anything just because it’s from a familiar producer. With MEOVV’s BODY, a lot of the positive feedback does seem like it’s coming from die-hard fans who’ll hype up anything tied to TEDDY, whether it’s fresh or not. And if we're being real, the "YG formula" has been recycled so often that it feels lazy rather than exciting. So when listeners label a song as a “BP reject,” it's not necessarily because they dislike the YG sound-they’re picking up on how formulaic and repetitive it’s become.
And, yes, MEOVV has only three songs so far, but that’s exactly why these early releases matter. If TEDDY’s introducing them with tracks that immediately draw “Blackpink reject” comparisons, it’s hard not to wonder if this will be the trend for their future music. We don’t need a full album to see the direction; the pattern’s already there in these initial songs, and it’s not setting MEOVV up to stand on their own feet.
The audacity for NJ to go on a stage thanking and labelling mhj as the CEO while they're complaining about not being respected is peak irony.
No one cares
Where's the lie ? I swear, these ungrateful girls...
@@SimonBreizh I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
@@w0nyst0e Honestly, as someone who’s been a victim of manipulation, I don’t fully agree with the idea that we 'can’t blame them too much.' While manipulation is powerful and can blind u to reality, there comes a point where u need to reflect on ur actions and the consequences they might have had on others. Being manipulated doesn’t absolve someone of responsibility when they cross certain lines. It’s complex, but brushing it off as 'not their fault' feels dismissive to everyone affected, including the victim themselves.
1: It's honestly no shock that they're still holding on to Min Hee-jin and even thanking her. They seem to genuinely think they can't succeed without her guiding hand. This is the result of MHJ's influence so don't get surprised. These girls are WAY better off without MHJ. MHJ is just a dark cloud that looms over them. They sure will have a contract termination, but this won't be an easy way there. If anyone thinks that this will be easy for them then I'm sorry, y'all just lack intelligence.
I mean they have very obviously been groomed by her so we can’t blame them too much
@@w0nyst0eExactly but it is quite frustrating.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ I know I’m tired of this too
no one cares
@@ville-c4ushut ya mouth.
I am so glad Theboyz are leaving their company and staying together 😭😭they deserve so much better
What’s horrifying to me is how they have no real support system. Everyone from the CEO’s to their own parents see them as piggy banks. Their best interests come after that. On top of that, they entered and grew up in this industry so young. I can’t imagine what this training, public attention, harassment and battles will do to their mental health.
Minors-especially as young as they were-shouldn’t debut. Period. Hell, Don’t even think about going into this industry unless you’re self reliant and can get the representation you deserve.
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
They are no minors anymore. Or only one.
They're old enough to know exactly what they're doing
@@giovannabenso1754 all the girls sans minji were minors when the debuted. They trained for longer. Most of them are legally adults now, but they still lack independence and adult experience.
1. njs fans crying about ppl pointing out that these women (believe it or not, their childish concept can only fool y'all to a certain point) desperately destroy their own careers over an old obsessed woman when they could just look forward and grow from there on but bye bye🥱🥱
Nobody cares I'm better ☠☠☠😂🎉🇩🇪🙋🏻♂
They are „destroying“ their careers. 😂😂😂 how clueless are you? 😂😂😂
"Old Shorts" 😂😂😂
😂😂😂 upset, they havent even released a song in months, and admits all of the drama they are still outdoing your fave? 😂😂😂
if i were newjeans, i would probably have believe mhj at first, considering theyve def been groomed. but once my entire COUNTRY and MORE were telling me she was in the wrong, i would
start to reconsider. and you cant even claim this is an age thing, bc im the same age as danielle. these girls are old enough to consider both sides of an argument.
Yeah and after those messages revealed in the court of mhj calling them fat pigs and stupid brats
no the thing is no one except hybe and belift is telling them they are wrong. South Korea is siding with NJS, bunnies are, and most fandoms except armies, fearnots and glitz are supporting them. So naturally they will be way over their heads
Easier said then done, because Hybe is a villain to them it makes MHJ seem like a hero
😂😂😂 the entire country and more ??? 😂😂😂 keep embarassing yourself 😂😂😂
1. "Give them a daesang so that they can cry and earn sympathy"
Seriously, NJ flopped this year yet they get a daesang. Wow
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq ATTENDANCE AWARD, even Gidle dint perform well this year, but still received daesang.. that whole award show waa rigged
@@theymakefunofmyname-qz4dq wasn't that the award ceremony where no other Hybe artists weren't invited to?
NJ did not ‘flop’ this year. So what it was not as ‘viral’ as get up, both their Korean and Japanese albums this year performed amazing. How sweet was only beaten by supernova a monster hit. If this is your idea of flopping you’re delusional.
@@Arizzu_98 Yes, and hosted by a company that's known for publishing anti-Hybe articles.
@@dominiquechantel8978million of CHILDREN love NewJeans. CHILDREN = views..
The newjeans situation is getting so old everytime I hear new news about it I just sigh like it's so annoying every two weeks there's something new like atp just stop wrap it up
Mhj already talked about their nonstop whining and complaining through text messages right? Guess she couldn't handle that either 😭
No one cares
3. Okay so intl fans are too forgiving but this one time we're not forgiving SM for what happened to Seunghan suddenly we're the villains and we need to let it go
1. Yeah they screwed themselves over and they aren't innocent as well since they stood by mhj as she harmed the other groups and they're showing that they are entitled brats like even at that awards show they took Gidle seats and fans trying to say they didn't know when they ran right to their assigned seats so they knew what they were doing they think they're more important than they actually are because mhj got them like that and even she bashed them but hey she's leading them into fire.
I agree.
Totallly agree...!!! They should be held accountable for what they stand during the whole process!!!
Keep on trying inc😂l 😂😂😂
This whole newjeans and mhj thing is so jarring, it’s making me less and less interested in newjeans.
Me too ,I can't understand at all FR
6. That's so true! Also these number obsessed fans will try to gaslight u into feeling bad if u don't take the time outta ur day to stream 30x a day for the soloist.
1. Idc- i just know ill be in denial if or when the news of their disbandment comes out. It'll be a hard pill to swallow
They could just disband bcs ador just sort it out and stop supporting
6. Mhm, there'll always be one or two members that'll have solos selling more than solos of other members. It all comes down to the popularity. Expecting solos to make as much as the group projects is far fetched tbh. Its rarely the case
Getting 10 daesang all brand deals strong fandom in 2 and half year not joke maybe it's payola or something but their attention omg hybe boy cookie eta ditto are famous but other songs are lower that lowest still they got strong support and awards I mean we need to study them
I will say this again. Kpop Stan’s were against Mhj and nj when they started bc of her pedo allegations and they were from hybe . Now that they are against hybe all of a sudden all kpop industry is supporting them.. that channel “Angelina girl” doing videos dressed as Mhj like this is some kind of joke, reading nj fans comments as if is the real facts.. is getting annoying how hypocritical kpop and nj fans are getting. Still no real proof that hybe is throwing them to the dust . Now they are looking for validation from other idols that mentioned nj in support. Is ridiculous. I want them gone already.
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Yeah buddy there is no proof… 😂😂 keep embarrassing yourself…. Unfortunately for you, theyre not going anywhere 😂😂😂
@ tell me the list of the proof…… if 12 ppl liked my comment that means im not the only one with this opinion….
2. teddy needs to stop use the same formula over and over just bc it's somehow catchy - it's annoying and will only be seen as a bp copy. don't get me on the "we are rich and brats and have more money but don't rlly have more to offer" trope yg rides it's boring.
Watch out! There will come monstiez and blinks who will say something like: "no, it's not a copy it's just yg sIgNaTuRe SoUnD, iDeNtItY".
Did we all notice that there were even the only hybe idols to attend
@@justhope227 people were saying that that ceremony was organized or something like that by a MHJ's friend.... i don't know if that's true, but it's definitely sus
@@Arizzu_98 hybe has cut ties with that kga because of how they treated hybe artists
@@Arielaarmy-k7i 😲
So were gonan forget that for a group thats done they won a daesang and like 50 percent of the idols there were supporting them😭
6: No. Not clownery. ✨ DELUSIONAL✨ Thinking every member will hit the same level of solo success is honestly a bit delusional. Each one has different strengths, fanbases, and vibes, and not all of that translates when they go solo. A lot depends on timing, the music they release, and how the industry responds, which just isn’t going to be the same across the board. Expecting them all to blow up equally? That's just not how it works.
5: Fun fact: THE BOYZ'S NEW ALLEGED NAME IS "THE NEW BOYZ". The group's name is bare creative 🤧😳😬😭
it should've been The Boys
@@hiyylightwow even more creative.
Nooooooo
Please I so prefer the boyz
😭
MHJ will accuse them of copying her, for using the word new in her name 🤣
I don’t know how I feel about you putting “it’s what they deserve” in your thumbnail cuz they don’t deserve any of this both the adults in this situation aren’t doing their proper jobs. At the end of the day they were minors so I understand why they felt that way. The girls need to realize not even minhjin (or whatever her name is) doesn’t care about them
It's just typicl youtube thumbnail clickbait, dont read too much into it
Majority of those girls are ADULTS... stop babying them, they arent brainless
this youtuber and her followers are very anti newjeans, even with the hybe leakage of data they were in denial. They think NJ is equally as reliable for ador and hybe's public feud as MHJ or hybe officials. Its better to let them be than trying to reason with them.
Only hyein is minor all the other members are adults
@@z3nk1n47because they don't baby them they are dumb adults who are supporting a evil woman
2: I’d say TOXIC really suits Narin. She’s able to put so much feeling into her singing, and you can genuinely feel it through her voice. The song itself is simple and has a calm, sad vibe without being too intense. I like the rhythm-it gives space for their vocals to shine. Plus, I heard Narin and Gawon helped write it, which is honestly a solid start for them. Overall, it's a decent track from them. It's not bad or terrible like MEOW. That song is just TOO UNBEARABLE for me.
How was Meovv nominated but groups like Artms and Kiss of life weren't?
Artms ???? hou is dat ???
@ZareSamo-cn8pr A VERY underated group that imo has one of the best concepts of their generation
@@ZareSamo-cn8pr bro the loona redebut group
NJ are victims of Hype and MHJ... Let them decide for themselves. No one knows the future. Hope they got justice too
Well, let's not excuse the main ones, which are their parents and relatives, who should be taking care of them and it seems that they are only there for the money and influence.
The future does not seem very promising for them, but time will tell.
I LOVE NEW JEANS
NEW JEANS NEVER DIE
i really dont agree with the newjeans banter but i agree with the rest
I'm starting to think MHJ must have something on the parents or the girls themselves. I can't understand why the parents/girls would go to these lengths over one person. They can't be stupid enough to think their kids will still have careers after everything is settled and done. I guess we won't know the whole truth until the girls themselves decide to speak up, now might be too soon cause they're complicit in all of MHJ's schemes but years from now they'll probably try to blame everything on her and write a book called "How one woman ruined our lives."
Les dio dinero y les prometió más, es avaricia
kinda wanna see them in the future finally realising the witch MHJ is and hope they apologise to the ppl they hurt. Would be amazing if they can be friends with Illit later on
😂😂😂 YOU can‘t be stupid enough to think, they have to worry about their careers? 😂😂😂 how many braincells do you have left? 😂😂😂 wtf
Bro I can't even use the excuse that NJs are young so they don't understand that what min heejin is doing is wrong, like Im younger than all of NJ and even I can tell that Min heejin is messed up, it's common sense, I love NJ so much but now they've decided to fumble their career for some petty woman, I really don't want to see them go, but it's what they brought upon themselves :\
I will say, I agree but keep in mind that they’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes ya know?
Nice try 😂😂😂
2: Icl, TEDDY is failing these girls. I like TOXIC, but BODY & MEOW are absolutely disappointing. They're giving a group of talented girls, mediocre song's AND on top of that, TEDDY ain't even promoting them like a normal company would do for their newly debuted groups.
I also like what you said about Yves.
She’s the only Loona member who really is doing something extremely different than the rest of the girls and I’m proud of her for it. Her music personally isn’t my cup of tea, but I can’t deny her artistry.
As for TripleS I’m seriously agreeing with you.
I wish they would’ve stuck with the main units that lead up to the debut. Everyone knows them and it would have been fair for all the members.
It’s starting to feel too messy…and idk how to truly feel about it :/
4: It's definitely a fat flex but Idk, their discography is kinda meh? I would've waited another year or so and let them go on a world tour 🤷🏻♀️ It's a bold and confident move for YG todo, but I'd still wait anyways.
#4 Expected The world tour from Yg for Babymonster, Yg needs MONEY...
Yg is running on losses, treasure's tour isnt enough for them to survive neither does bm's cbs bringing in huge profits
Which company doesn't need money with all the investment made on bm especially 😂I think the tour is a good idea but it's going to take a toll on the girls,wish them all the best
1. In my opinion I feel like people are not seeing their situation through their perspective and are attacking them without understanding what they probably know. I'm not gonna lie Mhj is a genius and is good at what she does, she wasn't hired by hype for no reason. And knowing now that Hybe employees and BSH aren't really fond of new jeans, it makes sense why new jeans are so strong on their stance with MHJ. And let's says before BSH and hype employees didn't hate them and they lied about the isolation, then now they definetly do . From their current perspective, there is no going back, their image is already tarnished and it's either they try and keeping fighting on their stance or lose everything without a fight. Regardless of what decision they choose they are gonna lose everything. Just one decision they have somewhat control over.
Bro how do you know bang pd and hybe employees hate them ? You bunnies always say that but have no proof and yet say mhj is their mother when it was sent to court her messages calling them fat pigs and stupid brats
finally someone with a level headed opinion. I'm not really siding with the girls, since they are on MHJ's side and im never gonna side with pedophiles, but people need to stop calling them brats and bitches when the really manipulator is MHJ
1. MHJ is not the genius she wants to be thought of ( find out why she lost her job at SM)
2. MHJ and her online minions they bullied other HYBE's groups
3. Old Pants had special treatment, please watch their videos before their debut, during their debut . Just a few examples (they have/had their own make-up room
in the HYBE building, or even the entire floor where their staff currently works/worked , accommodation in a luxurious district, the space in which they live, being ambassadors of famous brands
Hanni for Gucci, Armani Beauty and UGG, Hyein for Louis Vuitton, Danielle for Burberry, YSL Beauty and Celine, Minji for Chanel Korea and Haerin for Dior)
4. Isolation from the rest of the artists - YES at the request of the "Mother of Cookies" , now it is understandable that other groups and their management are distancing themselves
5. MHJ Involving "Old Pants" members and their parents in conflict with HYBE -
"yes she protects them" from the evil and unjust HYBE, I beg you, have mercy 🤣
This woman "cares" so much about band members (that she did not accept the offer to be their producer, she only wants to sit on the board, she needs $$$, that's why she wants to return to the CEO position)
she drags them with her and when they are no longer needed she will get rid of them.
And this last statement and subsequent "conditions" (among others )
An apology for "insulting/ignoring" and of course the return of MHJ to the CEO chair, which was not even sent to ADOR but to the media 😆
The only sad thing is that the girls think (this is what I conclude from their statements) that without MHJ they would not have been successful
Maybe they will have a hard landing (I hope so), let them live the life of average 20-year-olds, without privileges
Maybe the rest of the artists will finally take a break from this drama
(all the above info. are available also in Korean)
@@magda1986ify She is just stirring up this whole media storm to distract people from the original reason she will never be allowed to be the CEO again, which is because she was caught planning a hostile takeover of the label.
The court ruling found "it is evident that Min Hee Jin sought ways to weaken HYBE’s control over ADOR and allow Min Hee Jin to control ADOR independently by either taking NewJeans out of HYBE’s control or pressuring HYBE to sell its shares in ADOR,"
smoking that hybe and belift pack
I don't know what to say about the NJ matter because what are they doing I will not even say I feel bad for them cause I don't they were stupid from the very beginning
The moment they pulled off that livestream I know that it was the end for them
😂😂😂 lacking some braincells, are we? 😂😂😂 may do some research, huh? 😂😂😂
It’s about time.
I’ve genuinely never been more annoyed and tired of drama more than this
They are blowing it far more out of proportion, their statement alone shows how much they do not care for their career and what will soon follow after this.
HYBE better let them go, as they say. *Be Careful For What You Wish For*
Why were some idols crying at new Jean's speech?
Soyeon cried cause they went through the same especially with the uncertainty. Soojin was out and they released I never Die
Probably bc it was a sad speech. I probably would’ve cried too, even if I couldn’t relate.
Because they want some of NJ fans.
To generate more media lol
Porque la autodestrucción , da pena.
I actually liked "Toxic" but _that_ noise in the background (idk how to describe it, but I hope you know what I'm talking about) gets on my nerves so badly that makes me wish I was deaf
I know exactly what you mean. It’s like a rattly bass or something and it’s an instant migraine trigger. The song was ok but that noise ruined any chance I had of liking it.
yves’s album is phenomenal, i looove then artists have their recognizable sound and identity, and you can feel it, i love all the songs especially hashtag, f amazing 😭
Give treasure a world tour ❌
Overwork treasure by sending them to countless fanmerts in Japan to help fund baby monster's world tour ✔️
Let's see if you're too mature to say this; I see you are not mature enough too.
The comment section here shows that mature PPL still exists .
Also nj will not end or disband i think it's yet another play
Also the video of other idols reacting to them shld not be such a shock coz yes at some point the companies do treat artist in a bad way and by saying those things on stage maybe they gained some sympathy for the fact that they as an artist if they are gone will be bad but that doesn't justify their illogical demand that is clearly unprofessional.
😂😂😂 upset nj is outdoing your faves, without releasing any music?
Toxic would have been better if the chorus was actually memorable. I listened to the whole song waiting for the chorus to come but it never did. It was very confusing.
1 mhj and nj should work and make music instead of busy with all these, so unprofessional!
You should learn some english 😂😂😂
Even I'm getting sick of this word flopping. Do you know what that means flopping Is when a group or an artist Isn't selling albums at all. Look at EXO A group who sells millions of albums. their solo careers Members have platinum albums. and million seller albums And big music video Views. And solo Concerts selling out. So How is that a flop That's success
mhj created new jeans as a whole can we blame them for sticking with mhj ?! hybe is not going to do anything about them the bias for mhj is not going to change the fact that they are in a better hand sticking with mhj succes and financialy
Well it's not even true that most of her learning was thanks to Source Music, she wasn't even in the equation yet.
HYBE gave her the resources and she chose the girls she wanted, the team and had a lot of budget.
MHJ hasn't provided anything financially, it's been HYBE's money and thanks to the contacts of this company, who were able to have such good contracts with brands. If they leave, they will have to start from scratch, but without that financial cushion, without their songs, without their name, they will be left only with the lady's wit.
They want to be with her, it's their decision, I hope they don't regret it later because MHJ won't look at them if they don't get any results, she will tell them "I think it's time to let you go" and she will start with another group.
2. TOXIC was a nice upgrade, i love the softness of the song and the MV is gorgeous but BODY tho... when will teddy stop with his ass formula bro! we don't need more bp rejects. I didn't who made IZNA'S DEBUT SONG but it gave me very teddy vibes (not a compliment) and after checking the writing credits, yep i was right. I just have a genuine question, when will this dude stop using his songs from 2016 and actually make something that meets this generations standards?? the MEOVV girls actually seem like talented idols that deserve so much better than the crap this dude is pulling. Their stage performances are the only thing carrying the group on its back, without the girls themselves this group would have been a complete FLOP!
BODY is ass (lmfao) but their STUDIO CHOOM performance is tew good~
Stop crying
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL your mom is crying cuz she birthed you
@@sanainthesky read my username lol
New jeans need a wake up call, and I hope this will be it for them
1. At first I felt sorry for them, but each time it seems like a group of brats who think that everyone has to obey them, because it's the second time they make those imperatives, what did they expect?? That they were going to say: "no, no, don't go, without you the company doesn't exist..." or they were going to let them go with their name, songs and everything, just because of their pretty face, with the money they have invested in all of it.
I suppose that if they really fulfill their ultitatum this time, the difficult part will begin for them, until now they have been respected for being important artists for the company, but if they declare war, I doubt very much that they will continue to protect them.
2.It's clear that they don't deserve the nomination, not yet at least. They are a group that has potential, but so far everything they have released is forgettable.
4. Another YG group that they aren't managing properly, it seems like they need cash now that Blankpink isn't in the equation, but they are rushing them into everything.
9. Fans are not an eternal cash cow, so many comebacks in such a short time will have the opposite effect and they will sell less and less.
They’ve been directed by her since childhood so her influence on them is huge & hard to break. I think their biggest mistake was coming public & not just support her behind the scenes.
1:34 We'll live. Thank you for worrying about us. Do you remember what happens next? 💜
Toxic is genuinely so soft and I can’t stand it. Like the couldn’t chose between ballad or pop song. Like I’m not a hater and I’m one of the few people who enjoyed MEOVV but this oof it fell short
2. I'm still trying to unhear "Body"
I absolutely hate that. That was a rejected BP song. Argue with a wall if you think otherwise.
I never supported them from the start.....
groups only include certain foreign / international fans we get one concert a year by a few groups if that it feels as though i do not need to care too deeply if i cannot go to such concert either due to the expence they demand from fans to spend even though i can use my own money to get there with all the fees it just isnt worth it anymore. i cannot even be arsed to travel to london as thats where they mostly go for most of their "world" tours so even if i want to like a group or two in the end if they arent including us lot outside of london or main cities they are scamming people forcing them to travel far and wide to go see them. and to also not have time to genuinely meet other fans spend time in their areas makes me less keen on spending on those richer groups who already have so much money i dont feel like i need to give them more except for groups i genuinely love. but even then they still give us the bare minimum no fanmeets nothing to make us truly feel as we have a connection to them in person. b o r i n g.
If new jeans disbands it'll be really hard for them to redebut , even if a company shows interest in them knowing these girls they'd probably ask that companies ceo to make mhj the ceo while mhj itself has 15 lawsuits to deal with
To be real all this situations not going to happen if Min Heejin didn't cause a chaos from beginning.Despite their huge popularity and influence, I didn't expect them to fall so fast in just a 2 years.
Sure looks like they’re falling 😂😂😂 what are you rambling on about? You do know, if they leave hybe, it’s not going to do anything for your faves, right?
Baemon’s tour is a strategic move by YG imo. Instead of sending them to the end of year award shows their goal was to get them known internationally. I respect YG expanding out of Korean popularity.
I think it's more than that, we're not going to promote them, we're going to fill our pockets. To fill a concert, people have to know you beforehand, it's not a promo, if people don't know you beforehand, they won't pay to see you.
2. I don't think so toxic is such a good song especially for the winter fits the vibe and lyrics makes since is not that cringe lyrics that yg puts Gawon and Narin wrote the song and you can see that because toxic has a good meaning while Body is short but is still good yes still has that brag that yg and tbl like to give but at least they are not talking about money this time
I was so shocked when I saw like 10+ kpop idols post support for NewJeans. And no hate but I was like ummm did yall not do research? This was bound to happen
The only one, not doing their research is YOU😂😂😂 where is the support from people from all over the world (in the industry) for lsfm and illit, btw? 😂😂😂
Yves 90s/genx soft club music videos feel nostalgic but fresh
How can NJ trust hybe after their leaked document... And even bunnies are happy that they are getting out of hybe... Them supporting mhj is not a bad thing...hype mistreated NJ since their debut bro...(if you really see mhj press conference instead of those few secs manipulating tiktoks u will understand)
People are treating them like poor little angels against the big bad Hybe and was forced to threatened their contracts. No. They made a CHOICE. literally no one asked them or push them to do so.
1) HYBE needs to terminate these spoil brats contract already. Without HYBE, NewJeans is NOTHING!
Que mini jeans pague primero
@@Odin99687That's gonna have a fat strain and affect on them.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ si son tan talentosas y tienen a los Bunnys, lo pueden pagar, en cuotas , que les vaya bien y que se queden lejos de todos los artistas de Hybe.
@@Odin99687They can but it's definitely gonna cost them a TON of money.
@@_JustArandomMultistan_ y es por éso que hacen el teatro, pero es lo que corresponde.
If NewJeans’ members stayed in silence from the beginning, all this drama could be avoided.
it is morbidly funny watching ppl support a corporation that has teenagers under practically an indentured servitude. instead of listening to what the idols are saying, the "omniscient" social media like this channel or supposed fans, are sure the girls don't know better. It doesn't matter if the MHJ is a devil incarnate or an angel, any idol should have a say in what, whom, where and when they should work. it is utterly ridiculous that anyone is for the corporates that has a history of abusing their idols. "How dare they think to break their contract to hybe co. they are over!" straight out of the hybe p.r.
Ellas firmaron un contrato, con beneficios, por trabajo. Si no lo hubieran querido, no tenían que firmar y siempre han tenido trato privilegiada, aún mejor que otros grupos dentro de Hybe 😂
Lmao that's a victim mentality.
@@Odin99687 lmao. How would you know how they are treated?
@@ayanobadass949 🤦♂Next time someone abuses you don't call the police b/c it is 'victim mentality'. Actual Brain dead take.
@@mikyas392 todos sabemos el presupuesto y los privilegios que recibieron, te perdiste en el piso 16 también
1 I so want to disagree with you but at the same time its what its giving if i am watching their situation as a normal kpop stan
4) Try as hard as they want, YG's knock-off version of XG, Babymonster, will never reach the level of XG. The only thing Babymonster has that XG don't is that they have a huge fan base from BLINK and YG stan.
Lmao funny that baemon is knockof of xg when they are not even identical, not even same concept at all.bjust say that u hate baemon. Easy
@harussanihassan518 funny how XG is currently on a world tour, and YG suddenly announced that Babymonster is going to be on a world tour soon. Coincidence?
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL so group that gonna do world tour are consider as xg knockoff or what lmao. Plus YG already announced before this in youtube chanel that baemon gonna hold their world tour early next year. Theres no reason yg want to copy xg for world tour. Plus its not like xg is that big for yg to copy them lmao
@harussanihassan518 it's also funny how XG is a global girl group and after Babymonster debuted, YG suddenly announced that Babymonster is also a "global girl group"
If that isn't "COPY CAT," I don't know what is.
@@KpopSTAN_R_DeLuSi0naL lmao wht kind of fact is that? The fact that xg debut 2 years early than babymonster, so why the hell yg want to copy xg. N how 2 year difference is 'suddenly'? How old are u kid?😂
1.Oh so now Hybe is the "good guy" in the NewJeans drama just because they give MHJ the producer spot? Gotcha.
I can't literally take seriously some of you people takes on NewJeans anymore, like you sound just like straight up you hate the girls ngl
You just can't see the bigger picture about all this drama, and all you can yapp about is MHJ, it's just boring at this point, like don't even talk about them if you have to talk about MHJ every single time, like we get it, you don't like her lol
2. Bruh, this is literally why I can't take your """""""""""""""""""opinions"""""""""""""""""""" seriously, whatever you are yapping about "Toxic" just doesn't make any sense, you either have the music taste of a 12 y.o or you are just rage bating at this point, and don't give me that "it's just opinions" cause you are literally yapping nonsense, the song is literally full of emotions, you either are a freaking microwave with no emotions, or even my walls has more empathy than you, melodies are literally what are making the songs so good, especially that chours, it's so simple but yet so strong and soulful.
The song itself is very unique for many aspects, vocal colors, melodies, harmonies even the adlibs. Songs don't need to have 200 different beat drops, or 200 different sounds to be good, sometimes keeping it simple is the key especially when you have such GREAT and unique voices in a group.
Well, NJ's last demand in her ultimatum was the return of MHJ as CEO or they would leave the company. How do you expect people not to mention her, if she is the main reason they are leaving???
@DailyChris2 Read what they demanded in the ultimatum again, then comeback.
@@MarcondirondirondelloDid you really read it?
Their last demand is reinstatement of former ADOR CEO Min Hee-jin.
That same MHJ whom they thanked at their last awards ceremony and who they continue to refer to as CEO even though they have had another one for months, whose full name Hanni still didn't know.
TripleS feels like somebody took NCT concept and turned it into chaos. It took SM few years to realize that graduation system doesn't work the way they expected and it took them even more years to ditch the infinite concept and finally announced last team to be made (NCT Wish). So we'll see how long it will take TripleS's agency to figure out how to manage the group, its subunits and activities
1. they can start a new group in jail as "second hand jeans" 🤭😄
1:46 What's the performance of kiss of life shown in this clip?
TMA (The fact Music Awards)
They were invited to perform Black Pink and 2NE1 songs. It was amazing
Old shorts 😂😂
what's the group/fancam at 3:23?
plot twist by tws
old shorts lol
2. Meovv is just another product of big data oin whats trending and whats popular. ppl say they are talented, i agree, but who arent, when u r in this arena of survival? there are only a very few groups out there that are churning out music with souls and personalities, and meovv isn't one of them , not yet anyways.
2. as much as i want to like Meovv, this song was such a weak choice for a first comeback
Why did you use a video of Kiss Of Live performing while you're talking about MEOVV?
I can’t with meovv since toxic is so bad since the beat is horrible
not the "oldshorts" 😭😭
For opinion 6, they really think they're mj with the jackson 5
2: TOXIC>>>>>>>>BODY.
BODY wasn’t really my thing-it actually gave me serious BLACKPINK vibes. The beat sounded a lot like "How You Like That," so I’m guessing it might be a recycled track. The lyrics didn’t do much for me either; I found the chorus pretty cringey, to be honest. Also, I heard that Tommy Brown wrote and produced it-the same guy behind Ariana Grande’s "Thank U, Next," "7 Rings," and BLACKPINK’s "Ice Cream", so I'm not too surprised as to why it reminds me of BLACKPINK.
Nj pay the fine and be gone!!!!
😂😂😂 glitt? Fearnot? 😂😂😂