🛢️🛢️ A “Dirty Little” Secret About The Whiskey Industry?
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- Опубліковано 13 кві 2017
- Let's talk about one of the longest held secrets in the Whiskey Industry, specifically around Rye and Bourbon. Your whiskey may not be distilled by the company you think it is.
There is a little (or very large) mass distillation company known as MGP, or Midwest Grain Products. These guys have been distilling rye, bourbon and even vodka/gin for brands and those brands are re-bottling it with their own label.
That's all fine and good, until one or two of those brands hide it and try to convince their customers the product's they sell are small batch, hand crafted and micro-distilled... when it's all a lie.
But, what are the pro's and con's to this dirty little secret about MGP and the brands that use it. Is there any impact or taste when you're ordering off a recipe list? Let's talk about it.
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I'll never forget the bottle of black label Johnny Walker I salvaged from a spooky old house in Wellington NZ. The house was due to be demolished. I found the whiskey (in perfect condition) under a mound of newspapers and boxes dating back almost century, this was in the mid 1970s. It had a cork stopper, wrapped in thin lead foil, bearing an embossed stamp. The label was beautifully printed, a lithograph I think, with gold details. It must have been from around the forties or fifties judging by the bottle. It seemed a shame to open it, but... The whiskey was very good, Exquisite. But the story behind it, made it even more enjoyable.
Damn that stuff could have been from the 1800s.most jonnywalker is aged for quite awhile before hitting the shelf.
Actually I got a pretty good collection of old booze last year from a place near my home in Wellington. A 94 year old lady was moving house and her family gave me permission to take an extensive assortment of liqueurs and spirits amassed over the years, but destined for the tip. Needless to say, I took the opportunity. There was a great collection of unopened bottles of brandy, chartreuse, Grand Marnier, and other liqueurs, plus an old bottle of vat 69 I gave my kids teacher at xmas. I don't really drink, but have enjoyed the odd tot of liqueur recently. The old black label though, was nectar of the Gods I have to say.
I found a couple bottles of Ballantines recently, 17yo must have been bottled in 1970s. Nice stuff.
r/thathappened
Johnnie Walker, just reach in the bin and pull out an empty. Seriously, what a Muppet. Oh, and it's whisky,, right. Scotch, from Scotland. Not Irish or American.
A friend of mine ran into a distiller at the liquor store. The distiller got him to buy a bottle of "his" bourbon. My friend was really excited about it. I had to let him know it was a MGP product. My friend was rather crestfallen.
This is one of those things that a lot of people in the industry known this is happening, but it's really hard to inform the general public. It's good you put out this video.
Thanks. But, at the same time, I'd encourage your friend to support new brands like this in the local community. I'm sure the person has invested a great deal of money into retail, marketing, one-on-one relationship building with customers (as seen in this example) and is working to build a small business that will no doubt impact and help your local community if he becomes moderately successful and can branch out or even distill his own product in house.
Some folks start distilling right away, but it can take months or years to get the recipe they want correct with the proper aging and these new releases (MGP or no) helps to fund that dream.
I actually like your view of the situation on the whole. Many people are strictly against any blending of preexisting products.
In the Scotch industry, there are companies that blend barrels from select distilleries and sell them at a premium. The labeling is very straight forward about this and many of the bottles are highly sought after.
I understand the struggle of starting a distillery as my distillery has been open for a little over a month. Trying to make a profit does not excuse lying or very clear obfuscation.
Forgot to mention. I told me friend that the whiskey may still be good and if he likes it, he should enjoy it or buy more.
James Davidson I don’t understand what that changes?
Like how does it make it a worse product?
These alcohol lessons are why I keep coming back to this channel. I enjoy the cocktail videos but love the education.
+JackTR21 thanks !
No problem, love the show.
Not my words, but "buy the whisky, not the story".
Exactly.
Donald Trump's awesome
@@mumbairay his awesome what?
It’s YUGE
*whisky
Very helpful. I learned something new today. Thanks.
thanks
I live near LAWRENCEBURG. The building still says Seagrams on it
Its in BRICK!
Nice to see you talking about this kinda stuff man. I dig it !
Thanks!
Dang. I actually went to Angels Envy and toured their still. I wondered how I was able to buy aged $70 bottle from a 2 year old place.
great vid this channel is so underrated probably one of the best channels out there
Thanks. It can be rated better, like, share and tell everyone about us :)
Thank you for the information. I just completed my Kentucky Bourbon Trail tour this past weekend, and heard a lot of back stories and history from the distilleries that "hand-craft" their own recipes. When I got home, stumbled upon articles about MGP. I feel like I have had the wool pulled from over my eyes now. At first I was insulted that I had been tricked by these large distilleries, as if their rick houses and massive steel corn mash filled drums were there for theatrics. But I guess this isn't any different than "American" companies like Levi's and Nike that source their materials and employees from other countries.
Well, there technically is a difference... none of those companies are giving you back stories that show you American workers in production lines or how they're filling the dreams of Americans by creating quality cloths on our shores....but actually having them made overseas.
Everyone sources something for some reason or another, or their products are hugely expensive. Costs go down over time, no doubt, but most companies wouldn't get the sales required to optimize to that level, they'd be gone way before that happened.
Maybe "once upon a time", but not in the world of big box store and buying products for 20% of the cost of a higher quality product. You could make the best quality socks in the world that cost 4x more than anywhere else, but Wal-Mart is still going to beat you every single time. And, if you're not a division of a huge company willing to pump brand awareness into the market for you, you're never going to make it alive. So...what then? You find ways to cut costs and soon enough, if you're not already bankrupt, you're outsourcing to help pay the bills.
1.) now educated, thanks!
2.) goes to IN to source a barrel
3.) bottles it for my friends!!! Cheers!!!
4.) SUBBED!!!
This is the best video on UA-cam. Thank you for the info. You really did "blow my mind" about things. Thanks.
Thanks!
This was a great video, informative and you presented it very fairly. Good Job!
Thanks!
I just heard about UA-cam boycott from advertisers, and I hope it hasn't hurt the show too much. Keep up the great work!
nah, status quo here, most of the advertisers that probably advertise for spirits are used to controversy :)
Dude, you just broke my heart. What the hell.. I'm checking the labels on all my bottles now...
oh man this is some great information! I hope your channel blows up one day Derrick. I've been lurking for some time now and these type of videos really peak my interest. Thanks for your knowledge and dedication. I used to be a bartender and your videos helped me stay up to date on the info. Much love from UT
awesome, thanks. Always looking for things to get the interest of our subscribers, it's tough finding stuff!
If more "distillers" where honest about the source of thier juice, there would be less of a stigma surrounding new upstart brands people love!
yeah, but you know who wins in almost all "big" successful companies? Marketing. Marketing is always dominating. I spent many years in technical sales and I had to deal with "reality vs. marketing" when customers would hear something and ask me how that worked and I had to explain that it didn't work like the marketing people said it did :)
This was super interesting
Thanks!! It took me hours of research and revising over and over to make it easier to verbally say and digest for the listener. Probably about six hours of work. Glad it's appreciated!
Common Man Cocktails outstanding info. Much appreciated.
agree, loved learning about the industry
Should be taught in school.
This was super informative! And really interesting. Thanks Derrick!
no problem
There are other videos on this subject here on UA-cam. But I've never seen any with your prospective before. Thanks you giving us your point of view.
Thanks. It's rare I'll be the first to weigh in on stuff like that, I like to wait and see how things land before I go crazy on rumors / drama. But, I figured it was about time.
Great review, thanks. I'm really glad you put this out there because most people don't have a freakin clue. This is not just confined to the U.S.A of course. How many Irish whiskies are out there and how many distilleries in Ireland. If you don't have the capacity you run the risk of churning out poor distillate. MGP do a good job and I understand why young companies want to market the way they do but it sucks if they refer to themselves as 'craft' distilleries when there's no actual distillery at all.
Yeah, I think there is a higher level of trust and loyalty with honesty and transparency as your goal. But, the short-term gains of a non-authentic story seem to be enticing to some people.
There are actually quite a few distilleries in Ireland: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_whiskey#Distilleries_in_Ireland
However, Irish Distillers’ New Middleton Distillery is probably the biggest one
(en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Midleton_Distillery)
Also, you can’t legally call your product “Irish whiskey” if it’s not distilled on the island of Ireland (i.e. in either the Republic of Ireland or in Northern Ireland) and any aging must be on that same island.
Great video! The ADL (Alberta Distillers Limited) is the big Canadian distillery that produces much of the Rye that is sourced across North America (Whistle Pig) do you have any info on the brands that source from them?
Not really, no, I didn't do any research/googling on them, just saw in passing on some of the stuff I was reading
Yeah but Alberta rye is pretty cheap.... ha
Most likely Diageo distillery in Salaberry-De-Valleyfield, Quebec, which is 50 away from Burlington, Vermont.
FYI: Angel's Envy is a 95% rye mashbill made at MGP in Indiana. It is identical in mashbill to Bulleit rye, Templeton rye, Dickel rye, Smooth Ambler Rye, James E Pepper rye, Redemption rye. That mashbill is also used in a few of High West's Rendezvous Rye/Double Rye variations. The main difference is Angel's Envy is finished in Port barrels.
Whisk(e)y is really all about the aging. That's what makes it brown. Same with brandy and __good__ rum.
This is critical information for the consumer. Thank you for weeding through everything to bring us this summary, most of which I had no idea was true.
"(Not even argentina)" 😂 cracked me up
yeah, sometime I saw from Last Week Tonight where John Oliver mentions a place, shows it on the map and then says "this isn't even ______, it's here. No, just kidding, it's here __________" showing people that they don't even know where things are on the map :)
This is one of those videos that I'm both glad and sad that I watched. Glad for the education value, but sad that there are quite a few brands with embellished stories. Anyways, keep up the great work.
Thanks!!
Haha, not only sad in that regard, but as someone who's putting together something myself... hearing the "Who's gonna buy yours?" breakdown. Whelp, back to the drawing board.
I'm still recovering from the fact that Laphroaig is a Beam Brand...💥🤯💥
@@i-love-comountains3850 I experienced that same thing when I realized Basil Hayden's is also a Beam product.
@@mikebMN basil Hayden was beams longtime master distiller
One of the best guitars I've ever played is sold by a company that actually makes quite a deal of how they went to Korea and checked out the facilities and picking out the korean pickups and other parts. I think a small shop that made a big deal about working with MGP, sampling, and making decisions about their juice.
I grew up seeing the Segrams Distillery in Lawreceberg Indiana in production, when it " closed" till now.
Ive always known about MGP and a lot of whiskies being sourced but I never realized George Dickel rye was one of them. I am kind of sad now because I always thought Dickel did their own thing
it happens :) I like to ruin dreams :)
You are an asshole! I Love It!
How dare you tell the truth!
George Dickel #8 and #12 are distilled and bottled in Cascade Hollow, Tennessee. Just the rye isn’t...
I forget the movie, maybe Runaway Jury, but I can still hear Gene Hackman, asking for a "double on the Dickel!" 😄
THIS is why I sub to CMC! Great video! By the way, I found my new favorite RUM. Pussers! REVIEW IT PLEASE! Distilled in Wood...that's right, I said DISTILLED IN WOOD!
An American Homestead Pussers is darned hard to find in most places. I’ve only seen it available in Maryland stores.
@@robertpoche1585 Seriously? Pussers is widely available and easy to find where I live.
Oh yes! I discovered Pussers a few months back. I'm in NC. Seems only 2 out of a 1/2 dozen stores locally keep it, though.
And it's even at a good price. Can't beat tbat!
It and Appleton Estates changed my mind on rum.
@@its1110 - Ya, i vacationed in Jamaica and part of the cost of the room was a bottle of booze. I chose rum and they brought a bottle of Appletons. That is a rum that is great neat or with ice. I dont even need the "Estate" version. I feel like i am doing something "bad" if i am going to mix it with Coca Cola or OJ, so if i am going to mix it, I'll switch to Bacardi Gold which is no slouch. But if i drink Appletons, i am magically transported back to Jamaica🤗
@@cmans79tr7
I'm in complete agreement with you. Appleton is the only rum I've never mixed. That wasn't the intention when I bought it... but once I tasted it I realized it'd be a sin.
Love your videos, informative. Keep it going.
Thanks
Really interesting video, just come across your channel and subscribed, keep up the good work
awesome, glad you found us!
Some of the best american whiskies are sourced from MGP distillery, names like Smooth Ambler and Angel's Envy for example.
And imao, Bulleit Rye is still my favourite rye on the market despite the fact that it's really affordable.
Angel's Envy is not MGP anymore! :)
But yeah when done right like what Smooth Ambler does. Sourcing can be a great thing.
Bulleit is pretty money
And Beam Brands is owned by Suntory Holdings (Japan)
yep, as of a few years ago I believe
After watching the video I thought I was about as disappointed as I could get, and then I read this.
For relaxing time... make it Suntory time
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GREAT Video! came up on the side bar from your latest video. Thank you for the information, Sharing!
nice, thanks!
I'm aware of sourcing. I'm also aware that the end products vary in taste quite a bit and I have my favourites.
Happy you're talking Rye... that's my drink.
I miss Wild Turkey 101 Rye!
1110- i wonder how many remember their "first" bottle. Back in 1976, 18 was the legal Drinking age. My buddies and i doused a bottle (quart size, i dont think Litres back then) of Wild Turkey at a friend's home. When the father found out, we had to pay for the bottle. I think we had to come up with $12 between us at the time. It was a fun night, the "Turkey" went down smoothly, and we didnt get hung-over. We also learned that: "If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay." Dad's bottle on the shelf is not necessarily "fair game". ;-)
@@cmans79tr7
Well... I guess it could have been a quart. All the local state liquor law. had stuff coming in varied sizes. But a 5th of a gallon was a standard. I'm not completely sure if it was a 5th of a US or UK gallon, though.
I didn't buy my first whole bottle til several years later than you. It's allways been "metric 5ths" (750 ml) for me... or 1/2 5ths (375 ml).
This is why I like the Bottled and Bond Act of 1897, thanks to Colonel Edmund Haynes Taylor, Jr.
I wonder how many vodkas would be BiB if they had a similar type of law.
Vodkas can in fact be BiB, as can gins, but to be BiB, a spirit must be kept in a wooden container for at least 4 years, and with vodka having to remain unaged that requires specifically treating the containers with paraffin for instance, making it all much more expensive without making it all any better. Anyway, why would you want a BiB vodka? It's ethanol and water and nothing else, besides being 100 proof, BiB gives you nothing.
Excellent information on MGP. I agree that "sourcing your juice" is not necessarily a bad thing as long as the brand is truthful on the label. As a consumer, we should take the time to read the label on everything we buy. The NOM database in the Tequila world has really helped with the transparency of that spirit.
Thanks! Yeah, but ironically only Mexico came up with a good identification system.
This is very informative, thank you for the info. I 'liked' it and I just had to subscribe.
Thanks :) :)
*sips in Canadian*
Just like how a lot of the whiskey in Canada is sourced from the distillery near my city too. Cool.
The best way to solve this issue, (since the government doesn't really care about lying corporations) is to ONLY buy products that say where it was distilled. If it doesn't mention it, don't buy it. If they twist the way they say. Don't buy it. No exception. That would force companies to post it on their bottles. They could explicitly lie but that would just make it easier to win lawsuits against them. Give them 0 wiggle room.
This is truth. As to vodka, Titos vodka buys vodka for "bottled in texas". Titos plant in texas receives no grain shipments, nor do they have any distilleries. You can check it on Google maps. Check out your whiski, vodka, rum, or what have you on Google maps.
So Tito’s vodka basically buys vodka premade....bottles it in Texas......and then hence the Tito’s vodka sourced in Texas ?
Tito's is distilled in Texas' oldest legal distillery in Austin.
This video was great!!
Went down to Buffalo trace; the tour guide pointed to a building, that was't part of the tour. He said. "You ever heard of fireball? That crap is made in that building."
lol
Holy cow! Been watching you for a few years now and I gotta say I love this rant. I would love to see you collaborate with the guys from whisky vault.
Did you watch our vodka one I did recently? ua-cam.com/video/pngUVKjkcB8/v-deo.html
Damn, I love Bulleit! (Thanks MGP for the good base!) And quite envy, that the 10 YO and the Barrel strength can't be found around.
ours is gone, Bulleit is pretty expensive tho
Here (BG) at some point I found it for around 16 euro (do your math), but more commonly it can be found for around 18 euro. The Bourbon that is. For the rye the price is 20-22 euro. If that is too cheap, I don't know what the reason might be, but here this is considered mid-range price. For instance the regular Jim Beam can sometimes be found for a bit less than 10 euro, and the likes of Elijah Craig, and Woodford Reserve range around 32-35 euros.
Bulleit splits the difference between Beam and Knob, in both taste and price.
Bulleit is fairly cheap where I live ($20-$25 for a 750mL). It’s my go-to mixing bourbon. More of an Angel’s Envy or Basil Hayden’s fan for straight bourbon, but also really like the Bulleit Barrel Strength.
In less than 15 minutes I’ve become a whiskey snob.
great job and very informational!
Thanks for addressing this, Derrick. It's good info to have! I'm disappointed in the smoke-and-mirrors presentation that my favorite companies have used, even if I enjoy the end product.
BTW, I just finished a bottle of (ri)1. I think it's disgusting, and probably the 2nd worst rye I've had since JP Wiser's. Rather than sell it, I tell my customers to avoid it. Maybe in a few years my manager will try to put it on clearance.
lol does old grandad still have a label with "agricultural textile product harvesters" on it?
Wild Turkey: "Kickn' Chickn'! :)!
Wild Turkey Rare Breed: "Kick Ass Kickn' Chickn'!"
Another GREAT VIDEO :)!
Secrets and lies and sweet sippin' Great enlightening video
thanks
Very informative, cheers.
Buffalo trace, blantons mmmm
I drink Bushmill's. I prefer their "Black Bush".
It is incredible.
never have tasted Black Bush, sure would like to....
ua-cam.com/video/tjVzGYZLhvo/v-deo.html
They say, "Once you try black, you'll never go back"
I appreciate the info dude. I buy cheap yet except beer
I'm a hobby distiller and have a dream of opening a small batch local distillery in my town. Just something to go and have good food and some good local made liquor... Just knowing the cost and hurdles to jump to get anything going is discouraging.. But I'll keep dreaming and playing the lottery! Thanks for the video CMC!!
no prob!
Don't play the lottery, invest instead. Playing the lottery is wasting money.
@@AzureKite oh most definitely! I was more or less just trying to get a laugh. Slowly investing in my craft as of now but venturing out to other possibilities
I love Knob Creek 120! 👍🏻♥️
yep, it's great stuff, we use it.
I generally HATE when bourbons and ryes have flavors added to them, but I tried their smoked maple bourbon and I've twice make an except for that. It's quite tasty.
I also do a mixed shot with the smoked maple bourbon with Bakon vodka to make a smoked maple bacon shot. I almost handed the bottled to my wife and told her to hide them because that is soooooo good.
Denis Dooley ... runs to buy a couple bottles... For Science!!!
@@macdaddy9344 let me know what you think! I did one last night. Damn tasty.
"its not about the sourcing, its about the lying" thats what it boils down to. I do not think MGP does anything wrong, I actually think they do gods work by making more whiskey.
God was invented by man you idiotic moron
I think it's also about pricing... A local bottler sells their MGP sourced local bottled whiskey at a premium price- $60 per 750ml.
It is not worth more than $15.
There's a reason people source from MGP, they make good whiskey and they make it reliably.
@@Nohandle4u while I would argue that marketing costs money and to share that and other additional costs with a way smaller unit number, I think your point is valid and worth bringing up. Have a good day sir.
@@evanhorn6658 its a figur of speech you might not know, so I will take your intelectual deficit as an excuse for your lack of manners. Also say hi to your mom, I like that she gives me a cookie afterwards.
Great video very informative, that’s why I drink single malt
Thank you. I've been wanting a video like this for awhile. I drink not only for taste but for history/heritage.
Think you could do a video with authentic bourbons legitimately from certain state like Kentucky?
Not unless there is someone out there with that knowledge to feed it to me and then get me bourbons :)
Thank you for the education!!! Good to know. I tried whistle pig and was not impressed. Went right back to my Scotch.
Really? I didn't find it that bad, but I know Curtis, one of our semi-yearly co-hosts has more of an issue with the business practices than the juice itself.
Didn't it lived up to the hype, The guy was saying he grows his own grains, master distiller, blah blah what's a really good bourbon? Knob Creek best I've had yet.
Agreed. Whistle pig is not worth the price at all. I didn't know the back story when I first tried it. So the first time I tried it in NYC (I'm from Canada). I told my American friend, this taste like cheap CDN rye. Then found out later when I read an article that it was exactly that. Whistle Pig is literally lipstick on a pig!
Whistle Pig always seemed (and sounds like) to be Another Pile on the Rye Wagon product to me. Never have tried it.
Don't really like Bullet(sp?). Miss Wild Turkey 101.
Emptied a bottle of Old Overholt in 2 days. (Really fast for me.) Went down like water. I'm not sure what that says about it.
Not totally clear about one thing: Does MGP only distill (i.e., produce un-aged white spirits) or do they barrel and age, too? In other words, do they sell a rye or bourbon that can go straight in the bottle?
Another commenter mentioned "Bottled in Bond". Does that ensure end to end genuine ownership of the product, or are there some loopholes there, too?
I am guessing the explosion of Rye whiskies has something to do with the aging and barrel requirements of Bourbon. Is rye easier/quicker/cheaper to get to market?
Great video.
They barrel age as well, they have an entire facility for it. And you can go there to blended (or I believe have them do it too) the barrels.
As for "Bottled in Bond", there are always loopholes. For instance, if what the regulation enforces was always true, we'd not have companies that tricked people on the label as to where it was distilled. How did they do it? It simply didn't get caught in the approval process from what I understand. So, the government had to crack down on the slip up and get their shit together, but that's pretty usual.
You're asking for government regulation and such, you don't think government flubs up from time to time or ignores things because they didn't get caught right in "the process"? It's the government :-) It shouldn't have, but sometimes things happen. And, from what I understand, it took quite a movement to get their attention and expose some of this activity.
Thanks. Read your question just before asking mine!
I'll be hitting up Maker's Mark at the end of the month after the Louisville Marathon. Very thankful to live near Bourbon country, so I don't need to worry about where my Whiskey comes from. That being said...great video as always! Cheers!
thanks :)
Wow you opened my eyes.
great!
Old number 7 will always be my whiskey of choice!
Hell ya
It!s all a shell game. The stuff you drink costs just a few bucks to make. Most of the costs is federal alcohol taxes. Do double blind taste test and you will be shocked. I do it all the time with bourbon drinkers. Pappy VanWinkle has never took 1st place. At $500.00+ per bottle it gets beat by $30.00 bottle bourbon all the time.
we do double blind tastings as a matter of requirement here on the show :) We've not done them in awhile, but the corner of my back bar contains the current winners (usually, unless we drink them all)
For Bourbon I've settled on Evan Williams or Elijah Craig. Sometimes Maker's Mark. ... And Geo Dickle... never Jack.
As with wine, drink the liquid and not the label. Too many people I know ask me 'how much did this wine cost?' before they take a sip. If I say it's expensive their opinion is always glowing.
Awesome... I always suspected skullduggery... when I saw someone try to find the Bullit distillery, came up empty handed.
I like Beam... had many high end bourbons... always come back to Beam...
Thanks for the education.
no prob
Get some Woodford reserve and thank me later
lol i live in indiana so i guess its all that indiana pride whisky lmfao
see, always look on the positive side :)
Hahaha. Love this comment. Indiana lad here
I'm an Indiana bartender. I always make "shopping local" jokes. People are like. "Huh?"
Grew up on the west side of the IL/IN line but I will gladly drink your whiskey... cheers!!!
Nooo not Makers Mark!!! That disappointing!!
They had their own distillery back in the 1990s. I interviewed for a job at the Kentucky Natural Resources and Environmental Protection Cabinet headquarters in Frankfort and it was right across the street. Man, it smelled good. But that was 25 years ago, so maybe they shut it down and went to sourced whiskeys.
When I went to the Maker's Mark distillery and watched them distilling what was I seeing?
So do they have their own “waxing” center?
Maker's isn't sourced, it's just owned by Beam
Sometimes I'm just glad I didn't get fooled by this MGP-stuff and went with old favourites, like Four Roses and Evan Williams
Good video. Thanks for the heads up.
Thanks
Laphroaig is still made in Laphroaig though....
Lets not drag Scotch into this cesspool. When Scotch "brands" do this, we celebrate being able to get cheap versions of name brands.
The only thing I'm going to say here is that most blended Scotch is just crap. There are some good ones... but most...
Who the hell else would try to do that on purpose?
I'm never going to touch American garbage.
Don't be naive. They do the same thing everywhere. In UK.
Evan Williams - inexpensive and tasty.
I've got to agree.
Lots of stuff out there where lower price surely does not mean lower quality.
On the other hand... there is Christian Bros: Cheap AND Nasty!
Few bucks more and get EV Single Barrel!
@@charliecrash3450 I'm too poo'.
Completely agree. I bought they whiskey because it was so cheap and didn't expect much, but it was actually pretty decent. Not my favorite, but for the price, I doubt I could have done much better.
Yes, this is my go to, every day, bourbon. Oakey, smokey, and doesn't taste watered down. Perfect for the cold winter nights.
'we're teaching you how to drink' I love that. thank you for the knowledge good sir * subscribed *
Thanks
This was quite interesting & informative. Not sure each would fall into the category of ‘dirty secrets,’ but it would be great to see videos like this in each type of spirit.
I plan to launch a rum one tomorrow. As for titling, let's just say, I need to get you to learn something and watch, that often requires something to make you wanna do it. If I just said "whiskey information" nobody would have watched.
oh, and incase it wasn't clear in the video, here is the vodka one: ua-cam.com/video/pngUVKjkcB8/v-deo.html
Oh, that wasn’t a criticism. It’s actually a great idea for drawing in viewers. Glad to see more videos! Thanks!
I disagree that sourcing is not the problem along with the lying if we are paying extra for the lie that is the result of the sourcing.
I bought a near 2 liter of fireball the other day, I'm enjoying it, it's not as good as weed but I can deal.
Sexy McDeepVoice Be careful man. Don't rely on substances
@@tseawell90 you're the reason I drink, baby.
Is there a website hub to learn which liquors are company-made vs which are homemade? Trader Joe's is a great example of good-quality spirits without the "brand markup". Would love to find more resources like this for other brands!
Not that I know of, as most companies work to keep this type of thing secret... unless you wanted to start one! :)
Totally agree. Many of these are good spirits, but it seems sketchy if they're not disclosing the truth about them. No need to hide it!
Yep! Just let us know so we know what we're in for!
I'll stick with my wild Turkey 101.
not a bad one
It was the favorite Bourbon of John Wayne 😎😎😎😎
This is why Scotch is the best whiskey. Especially all the single malts. You know where they are coming from.
*whisky
@@michaelkenyon3372 it's whiskey here you tool
@@phil2156 if it's scotch it's whisky you uneducated slab of human excrement
bertsimpsan ... ouch... lol
Vigilant .Tapir sounds like you’re the tool now.
A few of our local Whiskey "craft distilleries" do exactly that. I go to the ones who actually produce their own,.
Grate video! !!! Thanks!
Very interesting information! Thanks!
no prob
Are there any more videos similar like this? This is good stuff
Just this one, on vodka: ua-cam.com/video/pngUVKjkcB8/v-deo.html
This is such a good video!
I've been to Angel's Envy's distillery that has opened in the previously few years. Presumably they are sourcing at least a bit of their products from their own distillery now rather than from MGP.
Surprised but not-surprised that Old Crow is a Jim Beam product; I mean who else, right? It's just so much smoother and even has a faint, palatable sweetness that gives it a real clean finish for a cheap-as-hell bourbon. That rum-barrel finish sounds gooood; a unique bottle called Old Engine Oil came to mind because I think it sells the story of being barreled in whiskey casks but whatever it is it is smooooth and malty and does give me the best little taste of a proper boilermaker
I thought for sure Old Crow was a Jack Daniels product!! Tastes just like it, only not as polished!!
Russell’s Reserve 10 Year Bourbon is one of the best I’ve tried yet! Sipping on it now
Very informative look into the whiskey industry, Bulleit bourbon is a good go to for me and I never realized it was a sourced product. Still good whiskey is good whiskey, but it is nice to know where it came from.
thanks!
Super awesome video. I'm from Kentucky and every year for my birthday my wife and I go visit one of the distilleries. Been to Jim Beam and Maker's and will be going to Woodford later this week. Now you said Angel's Envy was distilled by MGP but I just looked at my bottle and it says distilled in KY. Do they have their own distillery now?
Yes +pbkayakyer said they have their own distillery now, just not sure if all the bottles are distributed across everywhere now or if it's just starting. Maybe because you're closer to the source you've seen the new bottles first?
Common Man Cocktails That could be it. Plus I just bought the bottle a month ago so it's also fairly new.
Beam used to buy food grade ethanol out of GPC in Washington, Indiana a few years ago. Not sure where they get it now, though.
Thank you for the interesting video!
Thanks!
Love this video !
thanks
MGP reminds me a lot of "newfie screech" drink that newfoundlanders are soooo proud of. It's sad that so many of them don't even know that it's jamaican rum that's imported, diluted, and spiced up before rebottling with a new label. What's worse is that some of them even believe that Jamaica imports rum FROM Newfoundland.
There's also the issue of what defines a Distillery, by the OED (being a brit myself) "A place where spirits are manufactured." by that definition i can buy a distillation or range of whiskey's from Scotland and mix them in England and say it's distilled in England since that's where the final product is made and bottled thus finishing the manufacturing of the Whiskey. the WB (US dictonary) dictates it as the production of the Alcoholic distillate. Odd that the UK has a distinction between Distillation and Distillery when it comes to import's to the US
yeah, we have to call that "bottled in" vs "distilled in"
Great video and one more thing to worry about. I buy lots of whisky and bourbon brands just to enjoy the taste in my own way without worrying about all the Hubli. Today's choice "Gentlemen Jack". Not bad.
meh, really not worth "worrying" about, but information to keep in mind when laying down your cash.
Does black velvet have a lot of sugar in it?
They have a guy out by me in Carriere Mississippi that stated his own Bourbon distillery company its pretty good