Pauline Kael reviews McCabe & Mrs. Miller on The Dick Cavett Show (1971)

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  • In this clip, taken from the DVD extras for Robert Altman's classic western "McCabe and Mrs. Miller," Pauline Kael praises Altman's film and attacks the critics and gossip columnists who panned it.
    Kael predicts that the movie will not be an immediate box office success, but that many years from now it will be looked back on as an important film. She was certainly right about that.
    While the segment is dominated by Kael's take on "McCabe," they also briefly discuss her review of "Tora! Tora! Tora!" and the troubles at the studio that produced it, Twentieth Century Fox. The segment on "McCabe" begins around the 3:30 mark.

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  • @romanclay1913
    @romanclay1913 3 роки тому +225

    In 1971, my girlfriend heard from a friend that MCCABE & MRS. MILLER was an interesting film. We drove 30 miles and saw its last screening on its last night at the second-run State Theatre in Pasadena. There were only 2 other people in the auditorium. We were blown away. It was like seeing the unveiling of a masterpiece. As we left the theatre, a worker was up on a ladder removing the M-C-C-A-B-E red plastic letters from the theatre's marquee. Thank you Robert Altman, Julie Christie and Warren Beatty. The GF became and remains my wife. She doesn't remember that night at all.

    • @theisaacwilliamson
      @theisaacwilliamson 2 роки тому +12

      I saw this exact comment by you on another interview with Robert Altman.

    • @scorpnov13
      @scorpnov13 2 роки тому +10

      Also saw it in a secound run movie theatre in Chicago in the dead of winter , Kael called it a beautiful pipe dream of a movie, let’s not forget the Beauty that was and still is Ms Julie Christie as Mrs Miller, she was nominated for an Oscar for her performance.

    • @jshannon9362
      @jshannon9362 2 роки тому +10

      I’m sure note was taken by her of your determination to drive 30 miles to let her catch a film she had wanted to see. Good investment of effort, Roman!

    • @heinrichvon
      @heinrichvon Рік тому +2

      Make her see it again to jog her memory.

    • @okieinthemix
      @okieinthemix 11 місяців тому +1

      This made me actually laugh loudly. Great turn of the phrase.

  • @nintendianajones64
    @nintendianajones64 5 місяців тому +29

    How cool for Pauline Kael to acknowledge fellow guest Rod Serling as the screenwriter of Planet of the Apes. Awesome.

    • @jamesgough3938
      @jamesgough3938 3 місяці тому +1

      He looks either bored or like he's disagreeing internally with her.

  • @JCPJCPJCP
    @JCPJCPJCP 2 роки тому +70

    Roger Ebert called it "a perfect movie" and gave it 4 out of 4 stars. It's been one of my favorites since I saw it when it was first released.

  • @benrusi2289
    @benrusi2289 2 роки тому +64

    I was a construction co-ordinator for this production that was shot in outskirts of North Vancouver BC, Canada, and regard still this picture as one of he "All Time Classic's" Robert Altman did a hell of a job creating a new way to direct a movie(s)! Cheers for the whole crew, we did have a blast!

    • @sebtonz1
      @sebtonz1 Рік тому +5

      Captured the rawness of it all and just how cruel and unjust this life can be. A perfect film to quote Roger Ebert.

    • @roneteus
      @roneteus Рік тому +2

      It literally took a village! ❤️

    • @peterschancel7223
      @peterschancel7223 Рік тому +3

      I watched a doc on the making of the movie .Great Film ,, Acting , Directing ,production, and of course Leonard Cohen's genius weaves through it and binds it's spirit . The genius was that the town grows as the set grows in construction is incorporated in the film. I have it on my UA-cam movie playlist ''Deluxe Eclectic Movies' free flics I have found ,, The Stuntman is great , Sergio Leone's Last movie , A Fist Full Of Dynamite ,, his best .

    • @roquefortfiles
      @roquefortfiles 6 місяців тому +1

      I just watched this film for the first time about a week ago. I've heard all sorts of stories about it but I had never seen it. The end sequence where it starts snowing and just keeps going. I thought "They either faked this or got unbelievably lucky"

    • @MicahMicahel
      @MicahMicahel 5 місяців тому +1

      @@peterschancel7223 Once Upon a Time in America

  • @CyberChud2077
    @CyberChud2077 2 роки тому +29

    Holy shit, it's Rod Serling, sitting right next to her.

  • @scorpnov13
    @scorpnov13 3 роки тому +62

    McCabe and Mrs Miller with Leonard Cohens songs perfection

    • @hookywookywithmalarkyman704
      @hookywookywithmalarkyman704 2 роки тому +5

      I am a HUGE fan of L.C. it transended this flick into its current cult following & i met L.C back in the UK when i was aroung 23 & here i am almost 71 !!

    • @ellefirogeni4624
      @ellefirogeni4624 Рік тому +1

      Once, in his home on Hydra, Leo Cohen played live the film soundtrack while the film played silenced..

    • @peterschancel7223
      @peterschancel7223 Рік тому

      Agreed Great movie and Leonard Cohens songs weave through the movie and bind it together . If you want to rewatch it I found it on UA-cam for free and put it on my channel Playlist ''Deluxe Eclectic Movies"" lots of free flics I found,, Post Script search Leonard Cohen The Chelsy Hotel 2 his live talk and playing about Janis Joplin ..

    • @surfwriter8461
      @surfwriter8461 Рік тому

      I disagree. I think the imposition of the Cohen songs is mostly pretentious and off-putting, awkwardly trying to add some sentiments that may or may not have anything to do with the story at hand.

    • @scorpnov13
      @scorpnov13 Рік тому +1

      @@surfwriter8461 oh well

  • @petercrossley2956
    @petercrossley2956 Рік тому +14

    I was at the preview screening of "McCabe and Mes Millre" in Vancouver as was -Ms Kael. At the press reception following the screening she was most gracious to a cub reporter.

  • @pedal4ever
    @pedal4ever 2 роки тому +46

    Robert Altman is one of the greatest directors of all time. This film is one of his best.

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому +8

      MASH - McCabe & Mrs Miller - The Long Goodbye - Nashville - 3 Women
      An extraordinarily creative period from 1970-77

    • @ellefirogeni4624
      @ellefirogeni4624 Рік тому +3

      Indeed one of World Cinema’s finest filmmakers.

    • @truthdweller3454
      @truthdweller3454 Рік тому +5

      @@fattymcfatso1083 Also, Images, Thieves Like Us, and California Split

    • @jb8280
      @jb8280 5 місяців тому

      Word is that Warren Beatty directed much of McCabe & Mrs. Miller due to Altman’s altered mental state for much of the production. He was high AF and Beatty had to step in.

  • @terratrema
    @terratrema 3 роки тому +57

    She's right about McCabe & Mrs Miller.

    • @jeffreyholmes7216
      @jeffreyholmes7216 3 роки тому +6

      Yes she is. And she is sitting next to rod serling. He was a amazing writer.

    • @claudiam2474
      @claudiam2474 Рік тому +1

      She was a big Altman fan

    • @Kjt853
      @Kjt853 4 місяці тому +1

      A much underrated film.

  • @Grey_Ocean2023
    @Grey_Ocean2023 2 роки тому +29

    I'm just entranced by the lofty tone and erudite language. It's sophisticated, literate conversation of the highest order compared to what passes for "chat" these days. It's like watching TV made on another planet.

  • @ScorseseGirl
    @ScorseseGirl 2 роки тому +24

    She is absolutely right about McCabe & Mrs. Miller!

  • @Shah-of-the-Shinebox
    @Shah-of-the-Shinebox 10 місяців тому +8

    I just recently ordered her book 5001 Nights at the Movies from Ebay and can't wait to read it.

  • @seaninness334
    @seaninness334 2 роки тому +23

    When I was training as an AC, I had the pleasure of watching McCabe and Mrs. Miller with about 10 people and Vilmos Zsigmond, the cinematographer. Over the course of a few days, we also watched The Deer Hunter, The River and Witches of Eastwick with him.

    • @sianwarwick633
      @sianwarwick633 2 місяці тому

      What is an AC ?

    • @seaninness334
      @seaninness334 2 місяці тому

      @@sianwarwick633 Assistant Cameraman. A 1st AC is generally responsible for focus pulling and doing most of the work on the camera, cleaning, loading magazines, swapping lenses, etc. The 2nd AC handles the exposed and unexposed film/video stock, lab paperwork, assists the 1st AC when loading/unloading , swapping lenses, staging equipment, maintenance work, moving the tripod & camera mounts, slate, etc.

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 Місяць тому +1

      Very impressive! Vilmos is a master. He and James Wong Howe immediately come to mind when assessing the artistry of cinematography. 👍

    • @seaninness334
      @seaninness334 Місяць тому

      @@waynej2608 I don't know if the quality of the programming is still there as the organization has gone through a lot of changes in the last 30 years but The Maine Photography Workshops (now known as the Maine Media Workshops) is an awesome place. As I understand it, you can get accreditation through the University of Maine now but you can also (or used to ) be able to choose, ala carte, 3 day, 7 day, 14 day intensive classes with fantastic guest faculty. I crossed paths there with Vilmos, Alan Arkin, Dick Mingalone, John Sloss and Doug Hart. I participated in some programming on the west coast but not of the same quality. I assume there are similar programs and I assisted with some events through the IFP East and West coast offices that were great too. If you don't have the time, money or access to some of the better film schools, these courses are really amazing.
      Vilmos was very encouraging and patiently discussed his work.

  • @michaeldunne3379
    @michaeldunne3379 Рік тому +8

    Pretty interesting, never seen her talking before…and she can certainly talk! I remember her negative review of Manhattan years ago, at a time when the whole world was waiting for the new Woody Allen film. I was about eighteen at the time, a big Woody fan and quite put out by the review, but it stayed with me. Didn’t put me off the film, ultimately, but she made some valid points. She was obviously a passionate, erudite, and genuinely intellectual critic, doesn’t mean she was always right.

    • @waterspout8
      @waterspout8 Рік тому

      Out of curiosity, where did you find her Manhattan review? It's not in any of her books of collected reviews.

  • @jasonhurd4379
    @jasonhurd4379 2 роки тому +36

    What a joy to hear such erudition and clear-headed analysis from Miss Kael, and how deftly and subtly she skewers her less perceptive colleagues. Marvelous.

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому +7

      And that's back when only a handful of critics controlled the scene.
      Can only image what she'd think of the latest crop.

  • @MrJerpink
    @MrJerpink 2 роки тому +19

    The product placement at the end of this video kills me. Here Pauline Kael is talking about the treatment of cinema as art, with genuine films, "challenging" and "difficult" films (i.e. films that demand you to actively watch and think), being cast aside before they can establish their existence, and the segment ends with a commercial. Pretty poetic.

    • @weveri6
      @weveri6 2 роки тому +2

      Of course, Kael disliked many "challenging" and "difficult" films, e.g. 2001: A Space Odyssey, Lawrence of Arabia, La Notte, et al. She mainly liked "challenging" and "difficult" films that others didn't like. She was the mistress of "against the grain." She was mainly interested in being noticed; any insights into a work or the art form were incidental, and often perfunctory.

    • @zeltzamer4010
      @zeltzamer4010 Рік тому

      They had to make money somehow. Donations from the avid viewers of Pauline Kael talk show appearances couldn’t pull all the dough.

    • @ricardocantoral7672
      @ricardocantoral7672 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@weveri6
      Just because one dislikes particular films that doesn't mean one dislikes challenging films. There's a very large range of challenging pictures. Did you know that Menilmontant was Kael's favorite film? That was not accessible film, a silent movie with zero intertitles.

    • @cheekylix
      @cheekylix 2 місяці тому

      @@weveri6 Have you seen her reviews of Godard films? Or even read through her reviews (at length not snippets) on the films you mentioned?

  • @boborrahood
    @boborrahood 3 роки тому +10

    Tulip Time, Thank you so much for uploading this. I hope to retrieve a recording of Pauline Kael from San Francisco City Arts and Lectures from 1987 at the Herbst Theater in San Francisco to upload, since my original cassette had become distorted. Kael at her spontaneous, funny best with audience question-answer session after interview with Sedge Thomson from KQED. Have you seen Rob Garver's "What She Said"?

  • @jeffreyhamilton1052
    @jeffreyhamilton1052 3 місяці тому +2

    I want to live in an America where Pauline Kael comes on a late night talk show and takes off after gossip columnists reviewing movies on the morning shows! I feel I was born into this America, yet at some point was cheated out of it. I'm outraged by my fortune --

  • @jennifere.9815
    @jennifere.9815 Рік тому +9

    This is a GREAT interview that really represents its time and showcases Kael's philosophies.

  • @Pighill
    @Pighill 2 роки тому +13

    McCabe and Mrs Miller is my fifth favorite movie of all time.

    • @mongolianqwerty123
      @mongolianqwerty123 Рік тому +1

      And the other four?

    • @Pighill
      @Pighill Рік тому

      @@mongolianqwerty123
      1 Passion of the Christ
      2 GoodFellas
      3 Nashville
      4 Taxi Driver

  • @vector8310
    @vector8310 Рік тому +2

    The general level of American discourse has declined dramatically since Cavett's day. This show nowadays wouldn't last a week.

  • @willminkorea2010
    @willminkorea2010 3 роки тому +17

    It's a wonderful movie.

    • @tuliptime2120
      @tuliptime2120  3 роки тому +3

      Couldn't have said it any better myself :)

  • @fattymcfatso1083
    @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому +7

    I suppose we all had a HS English teacher who was just like this lady.

    • @jackal59
      @jackal59 8 місяців тому +3

      And we're all better for it.

  • @irish66
    @irish66 Рік тому +3

    Of course Warren Beatty was in McCabe, and it was Kael's review of Bonnie and Clyde that helped make the movie a hit. But if you are interested on what she had to say about the movie Mr Serling was involved in, here's a quote "This is one
    of the most entertaining science-fiction fantasies ever to come out of Hollywood. The writing, by Michael Wilson and Rod Serling, who adapted Pierre Boulle's novel Monkey Planet, is often fancy-ironic in the
    old school of poetic disillusion, but the construction is first-rate"

  • @ricardocantoral7672
    @ricardocantoral7672 9 місяців тому +2

    I respect Pauline Kael's work but that horrid Kane book. She should be ashamed of it.

  • @theCalebQuinn
    @theCalebQuinn 11 місяців тому +4

    Great movie, great Kael, interesting moment in time, when TV critics were gaining influence, but the Arthouse was still strong.

  • @juliendunand6409
    @juliendunand6409 2 роки тому +19

    One of the greatest American films in history, and both Altman and Beatty's greatest work. And I bet 99% of the young generation never heard of it. They prefer Spider-Man. The collapse of audiences in the West is today's tragedy.

    • @ExxylcrothEagle
      @ExxylcrothEagle 2 роки тому +3

      The Player is my favorite Altman film but maybe because the cast is so stacked

    • @kreek22
      @kreek22 2 роки тому +1

      First, the movie lacked an audience when it was released 50 years ago. Second, the collapse of artistic quality is two sided. The artist and the audience have both declined in quality--and that decline began, in my view, before cinema existed.

    • @tonybennett4159
      @tonybennett4159 Рік тому +2

      I think that the same criticism can be levelled at the books being read. You only have compare the best seller lists of the 60s and 70s and those of today. Escapism has its place but when it dominates culture that is reason for concern.

  • @zmani4379
    @zmani4379 Рік тому +7

    7:00 - Kael is making a very important point about the almost arbitrary way an atmosphere of response may be generated around a film - this is similar to Scorsese's recent criticism of Rotten Tomatoes re unusual films like Mother - exciting how she has no time for irony - I can't wait to see who Tarantino casts as Kael

    • @Omnicient.
      @Omnicient. Рік тому

      As Roger Moore used to say: 'Those who can - do - those who can't do - teach - and those who can't do either become critics'. It's similar to these writers who have done very little but regardless write books, or these days, make videos on how to do it! If they know so much where are their films? Why isn't their advice working for them?! Though their advice is nearly always second hand; as everything is!

    • @boborrahood
      @boborrahood 7 місяців тому +1

      @@Omnicient. Woody Allen used a variation of that teacher or critic line in his 1977 Annie Hall; he and Kael were connected after she praised his earlier films. If you've read any of her reviews, she is much more than a film critic. An essayist, historian, social commentator, humorist, and overall great writer, winning the National Book Award for Deeper Into Movies in 1974, the first win for non-fiction. Roger Ebert wrote that "Pauline Kael had a more postive influence on the climate for film in America than any other single person over the last three decades." Quentin Tarantino said in the 2018 Rob Garver film What She Said that he discovered his aesthetic for making movies when he read her review of Godard's "Band of Outsiders."

  • @JoeBesserfan
    @JoeBesserfan Рік тому +4

    Great video. Thanks for posting it.

  • @heinrichvon
    @heinrichvon 2 роки тому +8

    5:54 - Rod doesn't look at all happy when Pauline says that "words on television, dramatic shows" don't matter.

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому +4

      i was feeling his pain there . . too much of a gent to say anything I guess

    • @calateeker6161
      @calateeker6161 Рік тому +1

      Rod had to write scripts that were less than 23 minutes long (to account for commercial breaks), so every word written was important, contrary to what she said.

    • @ShelterDogs
      @ShelterDogs 5 місяців тому

      Yeah, a little insensitive. I'm sure she was just generally speaking, though. It would have been nice if she had acknowledged the great work of The Twilight Zone in that moment.

  • @beldengi
    @beldengi 3 роки тому +9

    Fantastic movie. Resurrected an old 19th C hymn that I had never heard, but love (as well as Cohen's). "Asleep in Jesus" sung by a group of prostitutes is a brilliant inclusion.

  • @sebtonz1
    @sebtonz1 Рік тому +4

    The film takes you right there in the moment. The smell of the pines and horse shit comingling for a scent you know. The mud and cold, people seeking refuge from it in drink, food and the warm company of a woman if for just a brief moment. How quickly life turns to death with no sain reason. Roger Ebert said it best, "a perfect movie". Thank you Robert Altman!

  • @ZenFox0
    @ZenFox0 2 роки тому +4

    I might be more isolated from reviews nowadays, but I couldn’t imagine reviewers having such a public forum today, or discussing one another’s reviews (or even caring about them).
    Of course film reviews have been greatly democratized, as various media proliferate online and anyone on social media can be a critic and cast their vote on IMDb or Rotten Tomatoes.

  • @valis14
    @valis14 Рік тому +5

    Rod Serling looking rather charming and coifed in the chair beside her. Always had a great smile!

  • @gravenewworld6521
    @gravenewworld6521 3 роки тому +12

    Thanks for this man.

    • @tuliptime2120
      @tuliptime2120  3 роки тому +2

      Of course! Just happy to find a clip that wasn't already uploaded.

  • @ucctgg
    @ucctgg Рік тому +3

    How about showing Rod Serling's interview ?

  • @dagnabbit6187
    @dagnabbit6187 2 роки тому +7

    Would love to have met this lady ? Some of Robert Altman’s work can be awful but McCabe and Mrs. Miller was brilliant one of the all time great Westerns and it also busts out of its genre to become one of the all time greatest films ever made

    • @ExxylcrothEagle
      @ExxylcrothEagle 2 роки тому +2

      C'mon man Popeye is a MASTERPIECE!!!
      😆😆😆

    • @waynej2608
      @waynej2608 Місяць тому

      I agree about the brilliance of McCabe, but I think that Altman was an amazing director and that I thoroughly enjoy the majority of his work. To each their own, of course.

    • @dagnabbit6187
      @dagnabbit6187 Місяць тому

      @@waynej2608 I could do without the muddling of dialogue he indulged in . Nashville was pretentious but I was 18 at the time and under the spell of Critic Rex Reed , a Critic who has never been a Robert Altman fan . I might feel different if I viewed it as a Senior Citizen . Popeye was an irredeemable fiasco. Altman should never have gotten that assignment . The Actors voiced their complaints after it was said and done . Apparently Altman learned from it because he stayed out of the way with Prairie Home Companion and let an excellent film unfold .

  • @IFStravinsky
    @IFStravinsky 2 роки тому +2

    I wouldn't even call this an interview. She just starts talking. It's great. As I recall, she did liked Planet of the Apes. Butch Cassidy, not so much.

  • @miketurek3074
    @miketurek3074 Рік тому +4

    Saw McCabe & Mrs. Miller in the basement of the base hospital, Thule Air Base, Greenland 1972. A Blizzard was raging as we were taken back in time.

    • @peterzang
      @peterzang 7 місяців тому

      Thank you for your service

    • @ShelterDogs
      @ShelterDogs 5 місяців тому

      March 8, 1972?

  • @Gardosunron
    @Gardosunron 2 роки тому +3

    Shes right. McCabe and Mrs. Miller is a lot of fun!

  • @LannieLord
    @LannieLord Рік тому +1

    To illustrate how much of an "outsider" and free thinker Ms. Kael was : from her book (in alphabetical order) the "J" section. She reviews Fellini's masterpiece 1966 "Juliet of the Spirits" with a trite swipe: "A woman who's husband is cheating on her-- has fantasies that seem to take place on the sets of old MGM musicals". The End. Like what ? LOL . ( ME: "Juliet..." is a colorful dip into the first part of the psychedelic era with some crazy sets and art direction and some hallucinogenic ideas. It feels "Dali-esque" in some ways w/ Fellini's real-life wife in the impish lead role with the most beautiful and bizarre set of co-characters . The soundtrack is pretty loony too.) So on the opposite page is a review for the 1980 BOMB "bedroom face" "Just Tell Me What You Want" w/ Alan King and Natalie Wood. Siskel & Ebert ripped it apart on their show - and the clips looked DREADFUL. Well, Pauline GUSHES on and ON about this movie in what seem like 200 words or more! It felt like she wanted to write an entire BOOK on the film. LOL . So there is a perfect example of her criteria . Like it or not. Her reviews are wildly exciting and when she HATES something it's even better (READ her review of the 1976 Diana Ross film "Mahogany" !) Quentin Tarantino is a HUGE fan of hers . When he was incubating the IDEA of "Pulp Fiction" one of her old reviews stuck with him "It's like cheap pulp paperback -- but there is something DEEPER going on underneath". His next and final movie is called "The Movie Critic" and we have no details yet about anything else -- except it takes place in Los Angeles in the 1970s .

  • @ronmackinnon9374
    @ronmackinnon9374 2 роки тому +2

    About the audibility of the dialogue in 'McCabe & Mrs. Miller,' Kael doesn't mention (perhaps she just hadn't heard yet) that part of the problem was a genuine technical issue -- the audiotrack in some of the earlier scenes underwent damage during the production (which Altman even owned up to in an interview with Cavett not long after this one).
    But besides that, there's the matter of Altman's approach to filmmaking. He aimed to go against the artificiality of conventional cinema as much as possible, an example of which is the way -- in scenes in which more than one conversation is going on at the same time -- some dialogue is made so much more audible than the rest. That's often not how it is in real life, and for the sake of realism, Altman would often have the key words for that scene just a little bit more audible above the rest. So I don't agree with Kael that it's strictly a matter of 'you hear what you need to hear' -- and its corollary that, 'If you didn't hear it, it couldn't have been anything worth hearing.' Sometimes in overlapping conversation scenes (especially with Altman), I find I pick up more on a repeat listen (definitely an advantage since the advent of home video) that adds to my understanding of what's happening. With Altman, the gain in realism is worth the price of having to pay a little closer attention than with more standard Hollywood filmmakers.

  • @shawnpa
    @shawnpa Рік тому +1

    AFI called it "culturally and historically significant", and ranked it 8th best Western.

  • @kengruz669
    @kengruz669 10 місяців тому +1

    I love that she championed "McCabe." It's a gorgeous film, a favorite of mine. She really goes on the offense against those who can't handle some language, obscenity, and challenging material. And then, two years later she absolutely trashes "The Exorcist", another of my favorites, for crossing various lines of gentility. Search out and read her New Yorker review. It's an astonishing contrast to her "liberal" and open-minded approach she affects here.

  • @tracyfortune3297
    @tracyfortune3297 2 роки тому +4

    Pauline Kael, explaining 2022's "thought-bubble".

    • @williammorris584
      @williammorris584 17 днів тому

      She was herself a perfect example of living in an echo chamber. She was quoted saying something to the effect that she had no idea how Nixon got elected, since she didn’t know anyone who voted for him.

  • @davidemmet7343
    @davidemmet7343 Рік тому +2

    Tora, Tora, Tora was supposed to be one of Stanley Kubrick's 100 favorite movies.

    • @tonywords6713
      @tonywords6713 8 місяців тому

      So was McCabe and Mrs Miller, I don't know if it was his top 100 or whatever but a rave letter does exist from Kubrick to Altman asking how he achieved the photography

    • @FucTrump
      @FucTrump 6 місяців тому

      Pauline Kael was an abhorrent film critic. A poisonous contrarian hack who used big pretentious words nonstop to sound intelligent while saying nothing, and shit on anything that didn't conform to her personal worldview. The only reason she's actually remembered is because of how many people she pissed off.

  • @Dizzyfingers2
    @Dizzyfingers2 2 роки тому +3

    My God this woman can talk!

  • @chipsahoy8651
    @chipsahoy8651 3 роки тому +3

    She embarrassed Cavett by knowing Louella Parsons was still alive. Louella didn't pass until 1972.

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому

      No she didn't. Dick didn't have the benefit of wiki - like you do. Louella was long retired and over 90 at the time. Easy to consider her "dead".

  • @jaceconverse6337
    @jaceconverse6337 3 місяці тому

    Well if this interview was in 1971, Hedda Hopper was dead in 1966 and Kael thought she was still around. I did like McCabe and Mrs. Miller though.

  • @thomasromano9321
    @thomasromano9321 20 годин тому

    Just goes to show you that critics like Pauline Kael are only another opinion, nothing more. I happen to think "Tora, Tora, Tora, is a brilliant film, well-acted, and for the most part historically accurate. It's obvious to me that Kael couldn't relate to that type of film, but if you want people to turn away from a great movie just because one critic doesn't like it, forget that. I've seen "Tora, Tora, Tora, several times, and each time it's terrific. Even Roger Ebert and George Siskel: I used to think they knew what they were talking about, until I heard Roger Ebert criticize "Tora, Tora, Tora, calling it inferior to "Pearl Harbor." I thought "Pearl Harbor" was so full of bullshit Hollywood cliches, but again critics, to me, are just another opinion, nothing more.

  • @franosbornblaschke3694
    @franosbornblaschke3694 Рік тому +1

    Kael has an admirable confidence and a keenly surgical wit.

  • @jackprecip5389
    @jackprecip5389 Рік тому +2

    I have a hard time understanding how anybody could NOT like McCabe and Mrs. Miller. It's a terrific film in just about every way.
    I'm not a snob, I'm a "to each his own" type of guy, I think everybody is entitled to their own opinion, but man, how could somebody not like that film even a little bit? I LOVE the film.

    • @tonywords6713
      @tonywords6713 8 місяців тому

      It is kind of a jarring movie, the first half is also completely confusing and tonally different from the second half where things sort of click more. I can see why people get frustrated with it because I did at first, now it's one of my favorites

  • @SJ-oi7tk
    @SJ-oi7tk Місяць тому

    Louella Parsons, a gossip columnist mentioned, was alive at the time of the show's broadcast. She died the following year, in 1972, at the age of 91.

  • @scottwebster695
    @scottwebster695 Місяць тому

    McCabe and Mrs. Miller (1971) has been around for 53 years.
    Many other movies have been released to poor reviews and have grown to become cult classics.
    Her argument that it was released "at a bad time" doesn't prove to be true.

  • @cynthiamadrid1430
    @cynthiamadrid1430 2 місяці тому

    What a smart cookie... 2024 just watched again... ene of my top ten favorites

  • @chrissnuggs
    @chrissnuggs 5 місяців тому

    Didn't like it at all. Gloomy opening - too dark. Hated Julie's accent. Unconvincing plot. Nowhere near as good as her other films.

  • @richard169
    @richard169 25 днів тому

    When Ms. Kael talks about dialog in film or TV, she should have turned to her right, to Rod Serling, who was a master of economy on screen.

  • @commonwunder
    @commonwunder 5 місяців тому

    6:16 Look at Rod Serling's lower legs... must've been just bone. His entire body looks shrunken.
    Dying of cancer, he would only live for four more years and die at the age of fifty.
    Three to four packets of cigarettes a day... for his entire adult life.

  • @miyike
    @miyike 2 роки тому +2

    Louella Parsons; so amazing that in this 1971 clip Dick Cavett assumes that she's dead, even though she died the next year in 1972; it really shows how she had faded away by this point. Louella Parsons was a horrible person and the unintended disrespect that she suffers here.... a celebrity gossip columnist, who lorded her influence over others for decades, harming many people, but now so forgotten, and so bereft of relevancy that she's assumed to be dead and buried when she's still alive, no one ever deserved to be forgotten so much as Louella Parsons. Good riddance :)

    • @ronmackinnon9374
      @ronmackinnon9374 2 роки тому

      They also mentioned Hedda Hopper, who really was dead (since 1966) by the time of this show. Curious if you have any thoughts about Hopper and how she compared with Parsons -- was she about the same, would you say?

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому

      Dick assumed she was dead because he didn't have google at his finger tips. 😀

  • @luckycat3
    @luckycat3 25 днів тому

    Pauline was a thoughtful, insightful woman. She truly wanted an elevated artful film experience and did her best to draw attention to what she saw as quality innovative film making.

  • @MellowWind
    @MellowWind Місяць тому

    I love the suggestion that typically directors treat audiences to a zero effort experience, and here Altman asks more of them, basically. Very astute.

  • @Theomite
    @Theomite 3 місяці тому

    That look on Dick's face when he hears Louella Parsons was still alive is the look of a man who realizes "Oh My God...they're coming for me."

  • @SARbeaver1
    @SARbeaver1 3 місяці тому

    McCabe & Mrs. Miller was a great film, with a beautiful Leonard Cohen sound track.

  • @delmofritz3964
    @delmofritz3964 3 місяці тому

    Wow Rona Barrett and Rex Reed didn't like McCabe and Mrs. Miller? Good. Because I consider it one of the best films ever made.

  • @halfnotquantum44
    @halfnotquantum44 3 роки тому +1

    Here's Mrs. Miller's ex-husband, Bob Strauch performing "Detroit City"! ua-cam.com/video/gi5GGaOYoJ8/v-deo.html

  • @lascreen3198
    @lascreen3198 Місяць тому

    Love Altman but I FF thru that one. He is best when he casts ordinary people in slice of life scenarios not huge stars mugging for the camera.

  • @charold3
    @charold3 5 місяців тому

    Wow, the great Rod Serling (with the great Pauline, or, hell, I think she’s great).

  • @racializedkanadian
    @racializedkanadian 4 місяці тому

    Is that ROD SERLING sitting next to Kael ?
    I wish they were both still alive !

  • @tonywords6713
    @tonywords6713 8 місяців тому

    Crazy they considered 6 million dollar movies a bomb back then. Movies today hemorrhage money to the tune of billions

  • @krisscanlon4051
    @krisscanlon4051 4 місяці тому

    Not sure Tarantino was able to synthesize her essence into a film. Niche piece...maybe another auteur can film her ideas and essence.

  • @hookywookywithmalarkyman704
    @hookywookywithmalarkyman704 2 роки тому +3

    My fave movie ever !

  • @juerv1
    @juerv1 3 місяці тому

    Why should I care about what any critics say about any film? I form my own opinion. By the way, ten critics have ten different opinions about the same film. Kael disliked classics like "2001", "A Clockwork Orange", "Apocalypse Now", "Blade Runner", "Vertigo", "Casablanca", "Das Boot", "Dirty Harry", "Psycho", "The Graduate", "All the Presidents Men", "The Searchers", "Star Wars", "American Graffiti" and many others. What does that say about her abilities? How many classics did she produce while working as a producer in Hollywood?

    • @TheGranfalloon2012
      @TheGranfalloon2012 2 місяці тому

      It doesn't say anything about her abilities, it just means she didn't like those movies and that's perfectly fine. A variety of opinions is a beautiful thing. Not producing movies herself doesn't negate hers.

  • @josb9836
    @josb9836 2 роки тому +2

    This feels prescient. Beautiful

  • @chambersstevens3135
    @chambersstevens3135 7 днів тому

    She was write about McCabe and Mrs. Miller.

  • @benfisher1376
    @benfisher1376 7 місяців тому

    I disagree with a lot of her opinions and reviews of movies. She seemed a bit too selective.

  • @natalienaamad655
    @natalienaamad655 3 роки тому +10

    I've been looking for this clip for ages!!! Can't thank you enough.

    • @tuliptime2120
      @tuliptime2120  3 роки тому +5

      Glad to help! Always interesting to hear Kael.

  • @markgardner1020
    @markgardner1020 2 роки тому +5

    Pauline Kael was smart and insufferable, not as rare a combination as you might think

    • @plasticweapon
      @plasticweapon 2 роки тому

      she was stupid and insufferable, which is not a rare combination at all.

    • @fattymcfatso1083
      @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому

      Many insufferable people are not as smart as they think they are.

    • @Clirene
      @Clirene Рік тому

      She couldn’t have been. She had many friends and admirers

  • @andyquinn1125
    @andyquinn1125 Рік тому +1

    The only film I watched, then immediately rewatched.

  • @fattymcfatso1083
    @fattymcfatso1083 2 роки тому +1

    She's right about McCabe but very wrong about Tora! Tora! Tora!
    It's a classic.

    • @WilliamHerlihy-p4g
      @WilliamHerlihy-p4g 4 місяці тому

      As a WWll and war movie buff, I love TTT as well. But those are the only reasons I love it. As a pure piece of filmmaking, it's pretty inert.

  • @joesimon2029
    @joesimon2029 2 роки тому +1

    Um, is she sitting next to ...ROD SERLING ?

    • @zmani4379
      @zmani4379 Рік тому

      Yes - notice how they cut to show his reaction when she talks about TV writing

  • @kamuelalee
    @kamuelalee 3 роки тому +13

    Kael wasn't wrong about "McCabe and Mrs. Miller"...great film.
    However, Kael's dismissiveness of "words" or dialogue in movies and TV I thought rather ironic (and insulting) as she sat next to one of the great popular writers of TV and movies in the last 60 plus years, Rod Serling.

    • @jamals.8786
      @jamals.8786 3 роки тому +5

      Did you see his facial expressions after she said that? 😆 It was quite telling what he thought about her opinion on TV dialogue.

    • @kamuelalee
      @kamuelalee 3 роки тому +2

      @@jamals.8786 I did, that's partly why I said it. Of course, Kael was paid to make such opinions.

    • @DeanLeonard1
      @DeanLeonard1 3 роки тому +8

      But of course Kael was spot on. People do talk incessantly through TV shows, and now, having learned from TV watching, through movies. And it's certainly true that a great deal of TV dialogue is bilge.

  • @Bootrosgali
    @Bootrosgali 3 місяці тому

    Shit I think Kael mighta been stacked

  • @warrenrosen132
    @warrenrosen132 Рік тому

    She didn't like "Tora"? Weird.

  • @Frederick-v1v
    @Frederick-v1v 12 днів тому

    I want to HEAR every word.

  • @scottwebster695
    @scottwebster695 Місяць тому

    Rod fucking Serling !!

  • @sianwarwick633
    @sianwarwick633 2 місяці тому

    Pauline Kael has a lot to say about movies

  • @Bigwave2003
    @Bigwave2003 3 місяці тому

    As a film student I was so entranced by "McCabe and Mrs. Miller" that I obtained a copy of the script. To my amazement the script was different from the film, starting with its original title "The Presbyterian Church Wager". Robert Altman came under the influence of Leonard Cohen's music and he adjusted the script to better fit the songs used in the soundtrack. And, of course, Altman encouraged the actors to improvise.

  • @thomaslombardo8243
    @thomaslombardo8243 8 місяців тому

    I loved McCabe and Mrs. Miller but Nashville was Altman’s masterpiece.

  • @surfwriter8461
    @surfwriter8461 Рік тому

    Apart from some good points by Pauline Kael, this clip just reminds me of what an awkward, pretentious and annoying talk show host Cavett was much of the time, growing more so over the years. He never seemed comfortable in this role but was forever trying to appear literate and articulate in his fumbling way.

  • @LannieLord
    @LannieLord Рік тому

    Just gasped to see she's sitting next to ROD SERLING ! OMG , I wish I was in the "green room" that day.

  • @darrylwiggins1156
    @darrylwiggins1156 2 роки тому +6

    When i first saw this film i was a late teen and was used to standard old west fare, this one suprised and at the time kinda confused me.now, forty years later i fully understand the message,weight,and impact of this understated masterpiece.

  • @65g4
    @65g4 Рік тому

    Kael was a great critic even when you disagreed with her she alwayshad interesting things to say. However this is the woman who discredited Orsons involvement in the script of Citizen Kane her essay on that was debunked.

  • @californiagrace6868
    @californiagrace6868 5 місяців тому

    She's cool

  • @mckavitt13
    @mckavitt13 6 місяців тому

    I always think of this film as genius... perfect in every way.

  • @thegrievancegordieshow9882
    @thegrievancegordieshow9882 2 роки тому +1

    🐣

  • @thewkovacs316
    @thewkovacs316 Рік тому

    thank god for siskel and ebert
    they changed the entire art of reviewing movies
    people like kael and simon were obnoxious elitists

  • @Bacalao2929
    @Bacalao2929 2 роки тому +1

    I love her

  • @mrakl3
    @mrakl3 4 місяці тому

    It's still one of my favorites. And it does still live, as she predicted.

  • @Narrate918
    @Narrate918 2 роки тому

    There was a time when film critics were gods. Now, they don’t even exist.

  • @milart12
    @milart12 3 роки тому +2

    08:26 Rod Serling?