That's how it should be. Let's face it, most actors are interchangeable. They don't have the capacity to save a movie like Daniel Day-Lewis does, and get far too much credit for their work. Directors have the hardest job. They're responsible for all the parts coming together.
@@Kareragirl Daniel day Lewis isn’t the only actor that can make a bad movie watchable Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Philip Seymour Hoffman could just to name a few. And De Palma literally says at the end of the video how important it is to cast properly and he used Tippi Hedrins performance in the birds as an example. Maybe watch it to the end
an interview of two master film directors by an intelligent host interested in facilitating interesting conversations about craft instead of catering to the audience or public expectations? Such a thing existed at one time? Why yes it did.
the only slippery slope you need to concern yourself with is the slippery slope of self righteous smugness which you have already tumbled down. Its sad actually
We probably shouldn't pretend that it was common or that we don't have that now. Podcasts do that pretty well for a lot of film makers. But it does make general audiences stupider that every time film makers are on talk shows they talk about loose concepts and things not related to their craft.
@@cleftturnip7774 When I think of a director trying not to draw attention to himself I think of someone not shooting in a hyper-stylized way that draws attention to the filmmaking itself. A split diopter shot is something you would never see naturally, so it’ll always remove you from the narrative at least temporarily since you’re acknowledging the funny camera trick.
Everything was better back then... movie's and music especially...that is without question... just look at the state of things now....the kids don't have nothing... it's like everything died around 1997... like creativity in film in music reached its limit and died
Cavett is under rated. Some may not like his often cerebral approach but he always allowed his guests to actually verbalize. Great interviewer, perhaps the greatest.
He was and still is a rare breed of interviewer: he is intelligent, is engaged in a conversation, and in present in the moment to let the conversation go where it needs to go.
@@jimlechuga3193 Oh I did "figure it out." I grew up watching him and he's one of the most celebrated interviewers in television history. Just because you missed practically all of his career, I figured I'd try to enlighten you.
Dick Cavett's interviews were so great because he tried to understand the intricacies of each guest's profession. His research was thorough and it seems he got some off-the-book kind of nuggets as well. This made his questions and the answers far more insightful than the regular interview.
DePalma, Scorsese, Coppola, Spielberg, Lucas...these guys were constantly inspired by each other to do better, and some of the best movies came out of it. Thanks for the many meaningful hours spent staring at a screen, guys.
ThisGuysAMook - That's why they make & spend the big bucks , but we're not gonna pay , we're NOT paying cause disguy (points) dis guyz a fuckin' mook !
Fantastic. Cavett is asking good questions and DePalma and Scorsese are animated and answering enthusiastically. Their explanation of the use of wide-angle lenses is terrific.
And, the key point is that you can tell Cavett knows his stuff-he has a common experience (though on the viewing-end of film instead of its creation) with these guys that they can intelligently discuss.
Old interviews of Scorsese and DePalma are really eye-opening in the sense that you can see how their temperaments have evolved over decades. It seems as if modern-day Scorsese and DePalma have switched demeanors. In older interviews with Scorsese, he comes across as much more restrained and serious--in contrast, recent interviews with him show someone more candid and friendly. DePalma seems to have gone in the opposite direction. He's definitely not jaded or overly-cynical now, but I think his relationship with film critics in the 70's and 80's might have permanently soured his relationship with the media. In the 2015 documentary, "DePalma", he still appears aggrieved by the critical reception of some of his movies. Despite this, he's lost none of that brazen quality he's known for. In fact, he currently comes across as more wise and hardened. It's pretty fascinating to me how differently the film industry has affected these two.
Wow thank you so much for this comment, I thought I was the only one who noticed that, also, "no grey hair" Scorsese looks really really serious vs grey hair, black eyebrows nowadays sweet and smiley Scorsese :D that was really interesting and weird, they completely changed his attitude towards the media, is really amazing how they have evolved in their own way.
Taxi driver is the most important film in the history of cinema. Period. Unfortunately, past-Taxi Driver Scorsese movies are mostly duds... Which can't said about De Palma: his output is generally good through and through.
Really hope the younger generation finds this show. No unnecessary audience whooping, no pre interview to set up stories. Just interesting people who know what they're doing... Talking
Scorsese seems like in he's in a turmoil by the situation. I know he and De Palma were friends but you can feel his rivalry in him. Tarantino said in so many words that after De Palma did a great film he went to see "raging bull" and said "ah.. there's always Scorsese.."
Interesting to hear Scorsese talking about his trouble with reading and writing as a creative back then, knowing he probably never sought nor was given a dyslexia diagnosis in 1978.
I think your diagnose is incorrect. He said he had trouble concentrating, also his fast speed talking may suggest Attention deficit disorder. Any way this types of labels often make people think of Scorseses as better or grandiose because of having this "condition". I think it's bullshit it doesn't make him any better or worst. He's just an excellent director. Any way if someone has depression and he smiles would you see him as better or grandiose? It's only a label, it doesn't make you any better or worst.
You should see how Spawn creator Todd McFarlane speaks, especially during his interview with Stan Lee. I'd swear I've never seen someone talk so fast without any sentence breaks. It's like a gift to be able to articulate exactly whatever's on your mind with such speed and fluidity. Those kind of people make me so jealous... Lol
Scorsese was so serious back in the day ... he really seemed to lighten up and relax with age. Now he cracks jokes, chuckles after everything he says, etc. Love both Scorcese versions tho
Dick Cavett wasn't a variety host like Carson etc, he was more like Parkinson in the UK, where the focus was the interview and not all round entertainment. There are hundreds of interviews like this on UA-cam now, you don't need Kimmel or Fallon to conduct these sorts of interviews.
it's just a different format come on... i like this format more, but i'm sure also at the time there were entertainment shows like kimmel's. and despite this, there are intelligent hosts like o'brien who can do both, buffoon and introspection
Watching de Palma and Scorsese talk about Hitchcok and Welles techniques and camera movement, its just mesmerizing. Id had died if they mention Bergman, Fellini or Tarkovsky
Dick Cavett is pure, unadulterated, class. Love his use of the word ‘Vertiginous’. Yes, it’s real. 😀 I don’t know when I’ll get a chance to use it, in normal conversation, but I hope it’s gonna be soon.
They NEVER interview directors anymore on talk shows. It's just actors and nothing else. People of this period had a grip of how a movie is made but now people just want garbage churned out on Netflix daily
Martin Scorsese is such a ball of energy when he speaks. Like his thoughts are coming at him 10 times faster than he can get them out. de Palma looks so frickin’ young. Great discussion
Actually I think the remake is beautiful. It's not 100% the same film, but it's close enough to generates a strange feeling and gets a life of its own. Especially with the help of the photography of Chris Doyle, where he goes will really strong colors. It's a visual feast and one of the most interesting remake ever made.
I don’t understand who people like Welles and Hitchcock took too much influence from, sure they watched people’s films to inspire them but they really had a creative genius side to them, very innovative men
Ben Hill for as much as I’ve seen psycho the tension, story, and suspense plus strange subject matter thrills me to the bone every time I watch it, basically once a year
It can’t be coincidence that interviews done by Dick Cavett are the ones where I truly feel I get to know the subjects he’s interviewing. It’s like I get to vicariously hang out with them. His style is an artform in and of itself.
Again, not to be a d/ck, but you're really posing this as some kind of advantage? I mean, it could be for all I know. But you realize the industry went for something like 50yrs without a film school turning out directors. How many Welles and Hitchcocks did we get then? In fact, the studio system itself was the film school, which probably provided better education than film schools today.
Speaking on studio systems and learning about directing, not to take away from what Hitchcock went on to further develop. But in his earlier years when he was making silent films and before then too, he spent alot of time in Germany with the directors round there. Probably people like Fritz Lang.
Dick Cavett was a part of our household forever growing up and after. He is a thoughtful, insightful, highly intelligent with whit and charm to boot. Not to mention good looking and cooler than he thought he was. I’m so grateful that this channel exists to be able to go back and watch the ones I loved it and the ones I missed. Thank you!
I still don't know whether Van Sant was aware of it all or not. He either pulled a huge prank on a major Hollywood studio's dime or was absolutely up his own ass. It's still a 50-50 chance for me.
This was great....I get exactly what Dick was on about with the movement. It was part of my favorite part when leaving a movie when I was young. I always felt that I was still in the cinema experience with motion and the ideas of what comes next.....
I agree 100% with De Palma about The Birds. Tippi Hedren's performance kept that film from really landing for me. Hitch loved his "icy blondes". Hedren took "icy" to another level.
@@marydestefano9487 I work in TV & film as a writer/director. It does take a lot of people to make a film, but the best ones come from the singular artistic vision of (typically) the director.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this YT channel. Cavett did some of the best, coolest, most thoughtful interviews. Is there anyone getting even close to this these days?
So sad that what De Palma said about trying to perfectly replicate the success of something but it having no soul, just like with all these Disney live-action reboots.
@@southlondon86 c'mon seriously? The Lion King is the oldest story of humanity. Kingly, noble father assassinated, The Prince is overthrown by the jealous uncle, the Prince's journey back to the crown and his birthright. Ffs read a real history book. If that's still allowed.
I can't get over DePalma without a beard, for some reason I imagined him with a perpetual beard like his comrades Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola. And just now it hit me: due to the incredible camerawork and editing, Goodfellas is our era's Citizen Kane. This may be a good short way to introduce the Orson Welles classic to those who regard old, Hayes Code black and white Hollywood films as stilted and boring.
It was Gregg Toland the DP who put the ceilings on sets. You can see this films shot by Toland that predate Citizen Kane , like the Grapes of Wrath made a year before.
well said there are ceilings in stagecoach too.in fairness it is said about orsen welles not by him.when asked the influences that most affected him im making citizen kane he said the old masters by which i mean john ford john ford and john ford all i did was copy the best.
A great interview by a great host and two great film 🎥 directors, these guys are so creative, especially De Palmer, you can tell by he's excitement and enthusiasm on the subject of films 🎥 👍👋🇬🇧
A very "clean", classy and well coiffed/manicured sensual beauty to juxtapose Suzanne Pleshette's simplicity and earthiness ... I think it was brilliant casting, both of them.
She was perfect, and had to withstand much harassment from Hitchcock: She was actually injured by real birds during the shooting; It's still the scariest Hitchcock film, in my opinion.
I like how Depalma says they don’t draw attention to themselves with camera movements when they’re both really well known and admired for their unique and innovative camera movements.
Can anyone imagine Graham Norton or Jonathan Ross being able to engage with such brilliant men as Cavett does with such elan here? Not gonna happen! Thanks for uploading.
There's another movie too, where it's really exaggerated. Glass table, with perfectly placed glasses everywhere that frames the characters perfectly. It wasn't a great movie, some crime drama. Can't think of the name, just one actor in it and he's not that famous
FYI, what they're talking about after 5:13 is a shot in Scorsese's 'Taxi Driver' (of Alka Seltzer dissolving) that alludes to one in Godard's 'Two or Three Things I Know about Her' (of swirls in a cup of coffee). (But man, it's hard to make it out, cuz they're talking so fast!)
Try getting an actress to sit there for a week and have live birds thrown at her, once almost losing an eye. No famous actress at that time, or probably even now, would even dream of doing that. Tippi Hedren was new to acting and was all too easily convinced to do it because it was to be her big break. Without her the film probably wouldn't have even been made. I think she did a great job.
Tippi Hedren was superb. She had a magnetic appeal in the movie which intrigued me when I watched it. I'm not sure why De Palma is complaining about her, but Hedren made the movie highly entertaining. The only letdown in the movie was the ending.
Second famous one in this field I see complaining about her performance. I disagree. Her character engages me, because she often hides her intentions from the viewer.
@@nitehunter91 I don't know. Hitchcock's movies usually build up lots of tension and release them at the end in a satisfying manner. With Birds, all the tension that was built up in the end was not released with satisfaction. I think Hitchcock intended the ending to be that the birds followed them to the Golden Gate Bridge but budget issues prevented him I think
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What is this craziness... Film makers discuss film technique and not just talk about how it felt to work with "X actor".
Also the host isn't laughing at everything
When film making was actually an art....
@Vincent H. Today's blockbusters are much worse than blockbusters back then.
@@sawrado375 Interesting cinema today is independent stuff that flies under the radar. Check out stuff by A24 for example.
@Vincent H. Chris Stuckman is alright, there's much worst film critics on youtube (Angry Joe)
No clapping every two.minutes! No talking about this actor or that actor. I love it
That's how it should be. Let's face it, most actors are interchangeable. They don't have the capacity to save a movie like Daniel Day-Lewis does, and get far too much credit for their work. Directors have the hardest job. They're responsible for all the parts coming together.
Actors are just people who are props for the director to tell the story. We just happen to admire, alot, about what they do.
@@Kareragirl neither does DDL, come on now
They literally talked about how important casting is and how Tippi Hedrins performance made the birds a lesser movie than it could have been
@@Kareragirl
Daniel day Lewis isn’t the only actor that can make a bad movie watchable
Al Pacino, Robert De Niro and Philip Seymour Hoffman could just to name a few.
And De Palma literally says at the end of the video how important it is to cast properly and he used Tippi Hedrins performance in the birds as an example. Maybe watch it to the end
an interview of two master film directors by an intelligent host interested in facilitating interesting conversations about craft instead of catering to the audience or public expectations? Such a thing existed at one time? Why yes it did.
An example of over speak with no payoff.
@@carrrexx7190 you dont deserve a happy ending cause your too uptight to even know how to enjoy it
@@gozorak you're not your. English is apparently a slippery slope for you.
the only slippery slope you need to concern yourself with is the slippery slope of self righteous smugness which you have already tumbled down. Its sad actually
We probably shouldn't pretend that it was common or that we don't have that now. Podcasts do that pretty well for a lot of film makers. But it does make general audiences stupider that every time film makers are on talk shows they talk about loose concepts and things not related to their craft.
De Palma: “Speak for yourself. I try not to draw attention to myself.”
Proceeds to use 8 split diopter shots in Blowout.
Funny guy, no director draws more attention to himself than de Palma !
@@judahwarsky8723 Maybe Fellini… But yeah, De Palma is up there.
And?
@@cleftturnip7774 When I think of a director trying not to draw attention to himself I think of someone not shooting in a hyper-stylized way that draws attention to the filmmaking itself. A split diopter shot is something you would never see naturally, so it’ll always remove you from the narrative at least temporarily since you’re acknowledging the funny camera trick.
@@SAMdaSHAM the human eye can see more than 2 things at once.
It is depressing that interviews like this are so rare today. Time and space for ideas and discussion. Time for a renaissance!
...podcasts?
Lol for real
They exist. They are called podcast.
Everything was better back then... movie's and music especially...that is without question... just look at the state of things now....the kids don't have nothing... it's like everything died around 1997... like creativity in film in music reached its limit and died
@@leeturton9254 Sure, lol
Cavett is under rated. Some may not like his often cerebral approach but he always allowed his guests to actually verbalize. Great interviewer, perhaps the greatest.
Totally agree. Cavett is also very funny.
He was and still is a rare breed of interviewer: he is intelligent, is engaged in a conversation, and in present in the moment to let the conversation go where it needs to go.
Underrated? He's one of the most celebrated talk show hosts in history. Not sure how he would be considered "underrated"
@@Yellowshark33 Not sure how he’s underrated? I guess that’s just something you’ll have to figure out.
@@jimlechuga3193 Oh I did "figure it out." I grew up watching him and he's one of the most celebrated interviewers in television history. Just because you missed practically all of his career, I figured I'd try to enlighten you.
Scorsese talks fast even at 0.75 speed.
This may have been his cocaine years :)
@@shaunpearson7905 True but look at recent interviews. He's still machine gun fast in his seventies.
He’s tremendously syncopated. It took me years to figure out that it wasn’t a chemical or emotional response. It’s just Marty.
Was he addicted to coke or something? I know he had a problem with something
@@TheRubberStudiosASMR He had a coke addiction around the 70s and 80s.
Iconic filmmakers talking about iconic filmmakers
I love this stuff! Dick Cavett was simply the best ever at interviewing.
him and parkinson were the boys
Troy- couldn’t agree more. He was a naturally inquisitive host. Always exploring more with a guest and always with a degree of respect.
He's not very good at interviewing but he is respecting the directors enough to ask them about their craft and not just what he understands.
@Bruce Thomson you "disagree" do you. Oh well that's just grand
@@HermanFalckHow so true.
Never saw de Palma laugh so much and behave like a happy human being.
Ehhh, this is before he went and grew a beard. Look what it did to Letterman.
This is the first interview I've seen of him. I didn't know he was known for his grumpiness.
His laughter sounds girlish
@@terrapinalive6192 it sounds authentic
Scorsese's cocaine does that!
Dick Cavett's interviews were so great because he tried to understand the intricacies of each guest's profession. His research was thorough and it seems he got some off-the-book kind of nuggets as well. This made his questions and the answers far more insightful than the regular interview.
DePalma, Scorsese, Coppola, Spielberg, Lucas...these guys were constantly inspired by each other to do better, and some of the best movies came out of it. Thanks for the many meaningful hours spent staring at a screen, guys.
ThisGuysAMook - That's why they make & spend the big bucks , but we're not gonna pay , we're NOT paying cause disguy (points) dis guyz a fuckin' mook !
Friedkin was kind of part of the gang as well.
Henry G Bogdanovich too, I think
@@eddwardfchaos Mook? Whatsa mook?
@@bebaguette766 Not really. Paul Schrader maybe.
Oh, De Palma and Scorsese talking about Welles and Hitchcock? What film lover would want to bother with that? :)
This is like a seven course gourmet meal if ur a film lover!
😁
Lots of film lovers would, these guys are good directors...
a required sit at USC or NYU one could assume.
just an amazing insight into geniuses
Very cool to see these two in their prime having absolutely no idea the joy and impact they would have on others for decades to come.
PACINO: Hey Brian, how this guy Carlitos should look, man?
DE PALMA: You know, many years ago I was in an interview with a friend...
Fantastic. Cavett is asking good questions and DePalma and Scorsese are animated and answering enthusiastically. Their explanation of the use of wide-angle lenses is terrific.
And, the key point is that you can tell Cavett knows his stuff-he has a common experience (though on the viewing-end of film instead of its creation) with these guys that they can intelligently discuss.
@@lordofthemound3890 that's what makes him great. Jon Stewart was doing an interview with tarantino and he didn't even know who Sergio Leone is.
I love the back and forth between De Palma and Scorsese. Great interview! They probably all went and got a beer afterwards.
Or a bottle of wine.
Wait for me!
Martin Scorsese, the Yorkshire Ripper years
The coke years?
Now then, Now then 👅
😂😂
@@mrkeogh 😂😂
LOL
Two of the greatest directors of all time two of my favourites this interview was a joy to watch
Old interviews of Scorsese and DePalma are really eye-opening in the sense that you can see how their temperaments have evolved over decades. It seems as if modern-day Scorsese and DePalma have switched demeanors. In older interviews with Scorsese, he comes across as much more restrained and serious--in contrast, recent interviews with him show someone more candid and friendly. DePalma seems to have gone in the opposite direction. He's definitely not jaded or overly-cynical now, but I think his relationship with film critics in the 70's and 80's might have permanently soured his relationship with the media. In the 2015 documentary, "DePalma", he still appears aggrieved by the critical reception of some of his movies. Despite this, he's lost none of that brazen quality he's known for. In fact, he currently comes across as more wise and hardened. It's pretty fascinating to me how differently the film industry has affected these two.
As for Scorsese in the late 70's, drugs are involved.
I wonder if the fact that he isn't as well regarded as a Scorsese (outside of cinephile circles) has affected him
that's because their careers went into opposite directions ah ha
Wow thank you so much for this comment, I thought I was the only one who noticed that, also, "no grey hair" Scorsese looks really really serious vs grey hair, black eyebrows nowadays sweet and smiley Scorsese :D that was really interesting and weird, they completely changed his attitude towards the media, is really amazing how they have evolved in their own way.
Taxi driver is the most important film in the history of cinema. Period. Unfortunately, past-Taxi Driver Scorsese movies are mostly duds... Which can't said about De Palma: his output is generally good through and through.
Really hope the younger generation finds this show. No unnecessary audience whooping, no pre interview to set up stories. Just interesting people who know what they're doing... Talking
The young generation are getting plenty of that with podcasts.
I’m 18 if that counts as being part of the younger gen
@@BluesRiffage depending on the podcast I’m sure lol
Scorsese seems like in he's in a turmoil by the situation. I know he and De Palma were friends but you can feel his rivalry in him. Tarantino said in so many words that after De Palma did a great film he went to see "raging bull" and said "ah.. there's always Scorsese.."
this is hypnotic, two geniuses, and Cavett handling them effortlessly. Media was different back then, more wholesome and effervescent
Most definitely
Dick Caveatt knows a lot about filmmaking. I would like see these kind of intelligent questions asked
The energies of both of these directors, given their films, is so evident. What an incredible record.
Dick Cavett is so damn smooth! What a phenomenal interviewer! He makes it look so easy
Interesting to hear Scorsese talking about his trouble with reading and writing as a creative back then, knowing he probably never sought nor was given a dyslexia diagnosis in 1978.
Yes and diagnosis are ultimately limiting. It's why labels like autism should be resisted.
@@PeterKKraus I don't think so. At one point, Scorsese mentions "Taxi Driver", his 1976 film.
@@zapkvr That's very interesting; one wonders what the artistic visions of autistics might be.
I think your diagnose is incorrect. He said he had trouble concentrating, also his fast speed talking may suggest Attention deficit disorder. Any way this types of labels often make people think of Scorseses as better or grandiose because of having this "condition". I think it's bullshit it doesn't make him any better or worst. He's just an excellent director. Any way if someone has depression and he smiles would you see him as better or grandiose? It's only a label, it doesn't make you any better or worst.
@@joaquincasares2895 His trouble concentrating was probably because he was gorged out on drugs at this time in his life.
Two great directors discussing the technical aspects of their craft with such insight.
This channel is one of the best on UA-cam. Thank you so much for opening the archives.
And I was born in '95
Anytime Scorsese talks it’s like someone pressed the fast forward button on his voice.
WhatchootalkinaboutWillis?
That's a NYC native ITALIAN-AMERICAN cokehead for ya.
You should see how Spawn creator Todd McFarlane speaks, especially during his interview with Stan Lee. I'd swear I've never seen someone talk so fast without any sentence breaks. It's like a gift to be able to articulate exactly whatever's on your mind with such speed and fluidity. Those kind of people make me so jealous... Lol
Cocaine is a helluva drug haha
De Palma hardly let him get a word in here, Scorsese was probably thinking like "I better talk fast or I won't get to finish my thought"
Scorsese looks like Sex Machine in From Dusk Til’ Dawn
lmao
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣.......or John Travolta's priestly brother in "Saturday night Fever"
He looked so creepy with that beard.
Tom Savini.
Lol
Scorcese & De Palma = Two geniuses
Dick Cavett = America's best host.
Scarface was a fantastic movie. Brian De Palma did a great job
Scorsese was so serious back in the day ... he really seemed to lighten up and relax with age. Now he cracks jokes, chuckles after everything he says, etc. Love both Scorcese versions tho
I really hate how people gave him a hard time about his comments on those Marvel films.
@@daustin8888 hes right🤣
What you don't understand that his interview happened right after Travis Bickle dropped him off at the studio.
@@Fan_Made_Videos Do you see the women in the window. That's my wife but it's not my apartment 💀
well.... he's wealthier than God now.
this was a tv show.
talking industry.
imagine kimmel or fallon doing this?
I would like to see Conan have conversations like this. He could pull it off.
juffan Conan could! Or Ferguson!
Dick Cavett wasn't a variety host like Carson etc, he was more like Parkinson in the UK, where the focus was the interview and not all round entertainment. There are hundreds of interviews like this on UA-cam now, you don't need Kimmel or Fallon to conduct these sorts of interviews.
@@KraigOliver Conan would keep making jokes all the way through this interview.
it's just a different format come on... i like this format more, but i'm sure also at the time there were entertainment shows like kimmel's. and despite this, there are intelligent hosts like o'brien who can do both, buffoon and introspection
Oh my God! They're having a conversation. On a talk show. Will wonders ever cease!
Watching de Palma and Scorsese talk about Hitchcok and Welles techniques and camera movement, its just mesmerizing. Id had died if they mention Bergman, Fellini or Tarkovsky
Dick Cavett is pure, unadulterated, class. Love his use of the word ‘Vertiginous’. Yes, it’s real. 😀
I don’t know when I’ll get a chance to use it, in normal conversation, but I hope it’s gonna be soon.
They NEVER interview directors anymore on talk shows. It's just actors and nothing else.
People of this period had a grip of how a movie is made but now people just want garbage churned out on Netflix daily
Directors aren't auteurs anymore. They mostly are studio hacks except maybe Nolan, Tarantino, PTA, etc.
Nicholas Dove a Not true Charlie Rose has interviewed all of the great directors.
@@BookClubDisaster scorsese is still making movies you know.
Charlie Rose was a great interviewer.
I've seen scorsese on numerous chat shows, he still does them when he has a film out
What a great interview. Hearing great directors talking casually about directing.
Great interview and De Palma’s career long appreciation of Hitchcock as ‘artist’ rather than ‘showman’ is great to see
Two Absolutely Amazing Directors 😊❤
Love all this Dick Cavett content with Scorsese/De Palma
Martin Scorsese is such a ball of energy when he speaks. Like his thoughts are coming at him 10 times faster than he can get them out. de Palma looks so frickin’ young. Great discussion
He was maybe a little coked up.
@@jonisafreak3 could be 😉
@@jonisafreak3he must have taken coke before ever interview he ever gave in his whole life lol
I love when they talk about duplicating the shots of a Hitchcock film, and DePalma points out "it would have no soul". Psycho, anyone?
Actually I think the remake is beautiful. It's not 100% the same film, but it's close enough to generates a strange feeling and gets a life of its own.
Especially with the help of the photography of Chris Doyle, where he goes will really strong colors.
It's a visual feast and one of the most interesting remake ever made.
I don’t understand who people like Welles and Hitchcock took too much influence from, sure they watched people’s films to inspire them but they really had a creative genius side to them, very innovative men
Ben Hill for as much as I’ve seen psycho the tension, story, and suspense plus strange subject matter thrills me to the bone every time I watch it, basically once a year
@James Schultz What I find boring is you.
Ben Hill I loved that DePalma paid homage to the genius that Hitchcock was.
It can’t be coincidence that interviews done by Dick Cavett are the ones where I truly feel I get to know the subjects he’s interviewing. It’s like I get to vicariously hang out with them. His style is an artform in and of itself.
The thing with Wells and Hitchcock is they didn't have a film school to teach them, they just did it.
Again, not to be a d/ck, but you're really posing this as some kind of advantage? I mean, it could be for all I know. But you realize the industry went for something like 50yrs without a film school turning out directors. How many Welles and Hitchcocks did we get then?
In fact, the studio system itself was the film school, which probably provided better education than film schools today.
@@BradleyPaulValentine My point was they had no one to emulate and came up with their own style and technique.
"I was cut off from the world. There was no one to confuse or torment me, and I was forced to become original" - Joseph Hadyn
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Speaking on studio systems and learning about directing, not to take away from what Hitchcock went on to further develop. But in his earlier years when he was making silent films and before then too, he spent alot of time in Germany with the directors round there. Probably people like Fritz Lang.
What a great interview - love DePalma and Scorsese's films. Brilliant to hear them speak so exquisitely about there work.
Thank you, Dick. Keep 'em coming!
Dick Cavett was a part of our household forever growing up and after. He is a thoughtful, insightful, highly intelligent with whit and charm to boot. Not to mention good looking and cooler than he thought he was. I’m so grateful that this channel exists to be able to go back and watch the ones I loved it and the ones I missed. Thank you!
Gus Van Sant should've watched this before making the Psycho
"It will have no soul"
I liked it though. it was a nice experiment and even Tarantino liked it
Please don't nominate Van Sant in a video with De Palma and Scorsese.
I still don't know whether Van Sant was aware of it all or not. He either pulled a huge prank on a major Hollywood studio's dime or was absolutely up his own ass. It's still a 50-50 chance for me.
Most expensive film school project ever made.
"No matter how good you are, no matter how good you think you are, there is always Martin Scorsese" - de palma
Two Italians in passion of speech...
This was great....I get exactly what Dick was on about with the movement. It was part of my favorite part when leaving a movie when I was young. I always felt that I was still in the cinema experience with motion and the ideas of what comes next.....
Fascinating stuff! De Palma and Scorsese, brilliant directors.
Good interview ... love both directors... saw air date.. realized it was 3 months before i was born lol
I agree 100% with De Palma about The Birds. Tippi Hedren's performance kept that film from really landing for me. Hitch loved his "icy blondes". Hedren took "icy" to another level.
This was golden
Thanks for posting it!!
It would’ve been absolutely incredible if these legends would have co-directed a movie together
Nah, the best films come from a singular artistic vision.
@@zyrrhos LOL. The best films are the products of dozens of collaborators.
@@marydestefano9487 I work in TV & film as a writer/director. It does take a lot of people to make a film, but the best ones come from the singular artistic vision of (typically) the director.
When you consider that they critiqued eachothers scripts and dailys over the years , all these guys did kind of collaborate on each others projects
Thank you, thank you, thank you for this YT channel. Cavett did some of the best, coolest, most thoughtful interviews. Is there anyone getting even close to this these days?
Grateful for these two with bringing Bernard Herrmann back to Hollywood
Masters explaining the craft. Their craft. Priceless.
So sad that what De Palma said about trying to perfectly replicate the success of something but it having no soul, just like with all these Disney live-action reboots.
And the shot for shot remake of psycho
@@ilikeemerica9619 Haven't seen the remake but I know that it's like a copy paste version.
Or his own far too Hitchcockesque works.
Lion King was apparently an exact copy of a 60s Japanese cartoon.
@@southlondon86 c'mon seriously? The Lion King is the oldest story of humanity. Kingly, noble father assassinated, The Prince is overthrown by the jealous uncle, the Prince's journey back to the crown and his birthright. Ffs read a real history book. If that's still allowed.
2 legends talking about 2 legends.respect
Notice how they refer to Hitchcock in the present tense. The master was still working in 1978.
Keep it going with the uploads please
I feel like their personalities switched after this
6:53 "You can copy a film shot for shot, but it will have no soul."
Sounds a lot like the live-action Disney remakes
They don't care. They're printing money. How dumb is making live-action Lion King and yet it's one of the most profitable movies ever made.
Incredible. This sort of conversation is only seen when filmmakers are invited to universities nowadays..
So good. I wish it went on a few more hours.
What Dick is talking about at 4:49 is what we now call the Tetris effect. Repeated patterns that the visual cortex retains.
I can't get over DePalma without a beard, for some reason I imagined him with a perpetual beard like his comrades Martin Scorsese and Francis Ford Coppola.
And just now it hit me: due to the incredible camerawork and editing, Goodfellas is our era's Citizen Kane. This may be a good short way to introduce the Orson Welles classic to those who regard old, Hayes Code black and white Hollywood films as stilted and boring.
I love how Cavett is so calm and level, letting the guests talk and engages with them on close to their level, as opposed to chat show hosts today.
It was Gregg Toland the DP who put the ceilings on sets. You can see this films shot by Toland that predate Citizen Kane , like the Grapes of Wrath made a year before.
well said there are ceilings in stagecoach too.in fairness it is said about orsen welles not by him.when asked the influences that most affected him im making citizen kane he said the old masters by which i mean john ford john ford and john ford all i did was copy the best.
When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.
A great interview by a great host and two great film 🎥 directors, these guys are so creative, especially De Palmer, you can tell by he's excitement and enthusiasm on the subject of films 🎥 👍👋🇬🇧
I may be the only one to defend Tippi Hendren in "The Birds", but I'll do 'til my death.
A very "clean", classy and well coiffed/manicured sensual beauty to juxtapose Suzanne Pleshette's simplicity and earthiness ... I think it was brilliant casting, both of them.
She was perfect, and had to withstand much harassment from Hitchcock: She was actually injured by real birds during the shooting; It's still the scariest Hitchcock film, in my opinion.
No you won’t be. She was great!
Perfect person in the role!
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On that point, I'll stand by you.
Dick Cavett understood the art of interviewing, he really listened, which is harder than it sounds
6:32 and onward: why remaking a Hitchcock movie is a bad idea: such a thing wouldn't have a soul. Take that, Gus van Sant!
I like how Depalma says they don’t draw attention to themselves with camera movements when they’re both really well known and admired for their unique and innovative camera movements.
This is before Raging Bull and Scarface!
And Goodfellas....a masterpiece
At least Scorsese had Taxi Driver.
What a brilliant segment.
1:09
The look on Scorsese's face after being interrupted.
Yeah, the guy was a teacher for so long. That's definitely his teacher face coming out.
Damn I wish we had film makers like this now. I know these two are still around but they'd be forced to direct Thor 22 or some shit.
Dressed to Kill by DePalma was brilliant. The Birds by the master Hitchcock, freaked me out nearly as much as Jaws did.
Dick Cavett is a national treasure.
06:31 funny as 20 years on, that is EXACTLY what they did with "Psycho" - and of course, the failed.
Can anyone imagine Graham Norton or Jonathan Ross being able to engage with such brilliant men as Cavett does with such elan here? Not gonna happen! Thanks for uploading.
9:02 Scorsese "It's the Editing"
2 Legends. Love all their films
Really? Then I suppose you wet your pants whenever your eyes take in the magic of Kundun and The Black Dahlia?
Can't believe DePalma tried to call people out for calling attention to camera movement
really great one
Mel Brooks did that: High Anxiety the camera under the glass table looking up.
I was thinking about that coffee table scene, too, while they were talking, lol!
There's another movie too, where it's really exaggerated. Glass table, with perfectly placed glasses everywhere that frames the characters perfectly. It wasn't a great movie, some crime drama. Can't think of the name, just one actor in it and he's not that famous
FYI, what they're talking about after 5:13 is a shot in Scorsese's 'Taxi Driver' (of Alka Seltzer dissolving) that alludes to one in Godard's 'Two or Three Things I Know about Her' (of swirls in a cup of coffee). (But man, it's hard to make it out, cuz they're talking so fast!)
Scorsese talks so slowly, I almost fell asleep
I LOVE good sarcasm!
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Two gods of cinema wow thanks for posting
i liked it when they actually talked on talk shows
DePalma is much more amiable than I expected.
What a wonderful interview!! Mr DePalma please let Marty speak a little more!!
Awesome post!
Try getting an actress to sit there for a week and have live birds thrown at her, once almost losing an eye. No famous actress at that time, or probably even now, would even dream of doing that. Tippi Hedren was new to acting and was all too easily convinced to do it because it was to be her big break. Without her the film probably wouldn't have even been made. I think she did a great job.
Tippi Hedren was superb. She had a magnetic appeal in the movie which intrigued me when I watched it. I'm not sure why De Palma is complaining about her, but Hedren made the movie highly entertaining. The only letdown in the movie was the ending.
@@roybatty9663 I disagree about the ending. I think it sends a powerful irony: "This place belongs to us now. Get walking!"
Second famous one in this field I see complaining about her performance. I disagree. Her character engages me, because she often hides her intentions from the viewer.
@@nitehunter91 I don't know. Hitchcock's movies usually build up lots of tension and release them at the end in a satisfying manner. With Birds, all the tension that was built up in the end was not released with satisfaction. I think Hitchcock intended the ending to be that the birds followed them to the Golden Gate Bridge but budget issues prevented him I think
@@nitehunter91 Yeah, I'm guessing that Hitchcock disliked Tippi and he talked badly about her with others in the industry.