After you are done with the design and painting it and everything what do you use on top of everything to let it hold on the canvas and not crack and fall off later on?
I didn't use anything on top of texture. So far I dint get any cracks. Top coat like acrylic varnish or paints will only work as a top coat. Coating will not hold the texture from falling. Texture paste has to be good. I guess only resin can hold the texture 100% from falling. If you are using liquitex modeling paste or any other artists grade texture pastes, then you need not worry about cracks.
Since plaster of Paris is so brittle and breakable, a birch board seems to be the better substrate, providing a firm base. Being full of water, PoP heats up as water evaporates and the temp differential will cause it to crack. Water within the texture will evaporate much faster on canvas than the wood. As a result, the wood skin on the birch board panel will swell & begin to separate, and the entire panel will warp and eventually delaminate, being in the presence of so much water
Hello, I use board for lime plaster art. It needs to be prepared with something like a primer that has grit in it. The plaster then grips/adheres to the grit. Natural plasters are troweled on and further "compressed" onto the board, again helping with adherence. They are very fussy though and have a limit to how thick they can be applied.
I have seen other artists using board BUT they do prep work on the board first. They never say what kind of board but one thing is using gesso which is what all canvases are covered in when you buy them to paint on.
I was taught that with plaster it’s best to use a panel board over canvas since it will be able to sustain the weight over time. Canvas is not built for the material. You can however use joint compound on canvas, but definitely keep it to a certain height. Also with that use glue and gel medium to avoid cracks, if that isn’t your design plan.
Great videos & thank you for sharing your experiences! FYI, all wood contains moisture and will constantly move due to the grains and temperature changes. Hope that helps :)
Hi! I would try adding glue , a good amount, with my plaster when using a board. You need something to stick the plaster to the board and to give consistency to the powder. Hope that helps...
1:37 for any one wondering, I was working on thin boards like these for some time, and they will bend, you shouldnt paint on something so thin if you want to hang or sell the painting, its unprofesional
Thx for your video :) I use drywall compound mixed with modeling paste from liquitex for example or mixed with liquid white glue (for kids) to avoid too many cracks and so on.
It wasn't wood - it was a canvas panel, as opposed to Grace's other project, which was on a gallery wrapped canvas. The canvas board warped - even _with_ her canvas panel being primed with gesso - because the substrate was not a strong nor firm/stable enough base, where ideally a primed *cradled wood panel* would be. Plaster of Paris is also very brittle and fragile, and the combination of the two tensions pulling against one another is what made it crack.
You could use a section of drywall or what's called concrete-board. Heavy stuff but sturdy. You could glue a wooden frame to concrete board for that matter. (You're giving me ideas)
Paneling or Masonite will warp from the moisture in the goop Drying; .... Plywood will be sturdier & By All Means any shape plywood(Leftovers at a Construction Site) is creative Especially for testing. Good idea on wood to gritty sand scratches, aka 36 grit, for adhesion Promotions.
I like what you're doing! Try using some drywall joint compound in a 1 or 5 gallon bucket (with a blue lid) Like "Plus 3". I've textured a number of rooms with that stuff (similar to what you show at 0:17) Doing an entire wall is exhausting but it's fun ...and a great workout :)
@@AllThingsGrace I bet! In a way I think an entire wall can be easier because you use your entire body (kind of like hand washing a car 🤔) It helps to add a little water to thin it out a bit and mix it with a strong, power drill (1/2" chuck with a cord) and mixing paddle (you can revive an old bucket of drywall mud of any size with tap water by the way) One wall a day is enough for me :) but if you get in an "artistic groove" it can be hard to stop. After it dries I'll go back and knock off any high sharp/pointy spots that stick out with a sanding block. I've done single walls too. Small bathrooms are great when the sink, toilet, medicine cabinet are all removed/out of the way. I don't consider myself an artist but after I finished a bathroom (for an artist) she said I was.😁 She loved it ...and I loved that she loved it! My favorite room is my living room. It's "all white" but with 3 subtly different whites (subtle shade/sheen differences) for trim, walls and ceiling. The wall texture then "changes depth" as the sun or other lighting changes. I highly recommend: Sherwin Williams "Super Paint" in "Luminous White", flat for smooth ceilings. "Pure White" semi gloss for smooth trim, and "Dover White" flat for textured walls. (Tip: create an account and get a discount at Sherwin Williams. Pricey paint but totally worth it for coverage and durability) You can "play" with those different whites in your artwork too. Have fun! Sorry, I got a little carried away 🙂
@@robnation2475 you sound so educated in this department! I just bought a the Gyprock easy flow Joint Compound. I’m looking into selling some of my art work.. before I do, would you know the longevity of the plaster? Would you say it’s appropriate to use than actual ‘art plaster’? I’ve always just worried about longevity/ strength. Thanks!
@@karlauesson Thanks! Once you have paint over the joint compound (aka mud) it should be very durable for years/decades. Drywall panels can warp a little so if you mount the drywall to some sturdy 1/2" or 5/8" plywood with some construction adhesive that should last a very long time. The plywood would give you something to attach a nice frame as well as screws/hangers/cables. Some home stores have tall/upright "panel saws" and they can cut plywood sheets to your specific size. Makes it a lot easier/lighter to transport home too. (Double check before you leave to see if they were cut perfectly square :)
Thank you for sharing your experience! Next time if you at least 1é2 inch plywood I doubt that you will have the crack problem with the plaster. I've done it several time and never have that problem. Also you can use different king of plaster that dry slower than other. The dry time is usually written on the bag and depending of where you live you can have some that can take up the 1h30 to dry wich may help you to create the texture you want. Have a good day!
Some comments will say what I’m about to say. But why not try for example a 100cm x 100cm piece of plasterboard, and then stick the plaster onto that? It’s all about suction with plaster, so it can stick. Thanks for this!
I told a friend I would make her a canvas using filler,I slightly regreted offering as I'm water colour artist,but I thought to make the filler stick to the canvas I could use PVA blue mixed with filler? If anyone else has any ideas I would be grateful for your advise ,thanks x
I’m Very happy that I found your channel and your tips thank you so much my daughter has asked me to make her an abstract wall painting using plaster and I’m so glad that I found your video here so you’re saying seller is better does filler come with the color white or is it off-white and then what color paint that comes in white should I paint over it so that I can make sure the edges are smoothed out on canvas? And does it have to be sprayed with a sealer to set it? Great Work Ty for sharing
@@AllThingsGrace Awww That’s Awesome news Angel!! Ok ty for the info want to do this for my daughters new home.. I’ll ck out your vids on the ones you completed 🎉🎉😄
it didn't stick to a biard, coz it's not porous enough. If you had board covered in canvas, which is painted with base layer, I think plaster would stick nicely. The other issue is - it can crack coz of bending the board.
I don't think any of you realise that canvas is quite flexible as it's a stretched material, and once the textured art is dry it cracks right away from canvas underneath
Hi thanks for this video! Im about to make a base relief for my school project, which is better to use plaster or filler? And is filler the same as joint compound? Thank you~
get a kmart framed print which is mdf and the print is a form of plastic. sand the print to get the protective coating off. use gesso to prime it. use plaster of paris some water some acrylic house paint and add plenty of pva glue. I've made many of these and sold them. trust me they don't move or crack. don't forget to tape the frame with good quality painters tape to protect it but remove straight away when you finish your texture painting.
I have an idea I wanna try myself but I’m not sure if it will work or how to go about it, but I want to create a textured wall with wall filler? Anyone have any tips or suggestions on will it work or not?
Put painters tape on the wall and do it on top of the painters tape just in case and if you dont like it you can just pull off the tape....or on top of a peel and stick wall paper.... I would also practice on a large canvas first
@@MeganDaugherty33 also can u tell me how u prepare ur texture paste using plaster...i completed a painting n im afraid if plaster is gonna crack down or something
@@HERB902 gesso. Wait to dry. Then acrylic paint. Wait to dry. Then you can start to do your plaster on the canvas. Know that this isnt archival, this is,I think for personal decor only, because it will crack/fall off in 6months time. It wont last longer. You may seal it with any acrylic varnish.
@@AllThingsGrace where I am, spackle comes in a little container, no more than 5 or 6 oz, and it's used for patching nail holes. Are you talking about drywall compound, perhaps? It comes in a powdered form to be mixed with water, and you can buy it with variable drying times of 20 minutes, 45 minutes and 90 minutes. I'm thinking the 90 minutes would be the best because it gives you more time to work with.
Mixing spackle paste with some Elmer's white glue will make the paste hold stonger on canvas. I have tried and it came out well.
After you are done with the design and painting it and everything what do you use on top of everything to let it hold on the canvas and not crack and fall off later on?
I didn't use anything on top of texture. So far I dint get any cracks. Top coat like acrylic varnish or paints will only work as a top coat. Coating will not hold the texture from falling. Texture paste has to be good. I guess only resin can hold the texture 100% from falling. If you are using liquitex modeling paste or any other artists grade texture pastes, then you need not worry about cracks.
@@nethrasarts2944 hey, as you mentioned above, do we still need to mix white glue if we are using modeling paste?
Thanks for the tip. What’s the proportion you’ve used to mix up both the filler & Elmer’s glue? Thanks again
@@juhainaalfardan1683 2 parts of filler with 1 part of Elmer's glue approximately.
I found putting a little PVA glue in the plaster and as optional a little sand helps it bind to the canvas
Since plaster of Paris is so brittle and breakable, a birch board seems to be the better substrate, providing a firm base. Being full of water, PoP heats up as water evaporates and the temp differential will cause it to crack. Water within the texture will evaporate much faster on canvas than the wood. As a result, the wood skin on the birch board panel will swell & begin to separate, and the entire panel will warp and eventually delaminate, being in the presence of so much water
Hello, I use board for lime plaster art. It needs to be prepared with something like a primer that has grit in it. The plaster then grips/adheres to the grit. Natural plasters are troweled on and further "compressed" onto the board, again helping with adherence. They are very fussy though and have a limit to how thick they can be applied.
Joint compound/drywall compound is really great to use. It's much cheaper and a long playtime!
Hii may i ask you? Do you mix your drywall compound with glue?
@@rezkyputri8296 no I don't.
@@Jb.art1 so you just mix it with water?
@@rezkyputri8296 nope, I dont mix it with anything at all.
@@Jb.art1 will the texture last years like a real art plaster? Curious about longevity.
I have seen other artists using board BUT they do prep work on the board first. They never say what kind of board but one thing is using gesso which is what all canvases are covered in when you buy them to paint on.
I was taught that with plaster it’s best to use a panel board over canvas since it will be able to sustain the weight over time. Canvas is not built for the material. You can however use joint compound on canvas, but definitely keep it to a certain height. Also with that use glue and gel medium to avoid cracks, if that isn’t your design plan.
Do we use Glue with joint compound ?
Please reply back 😇✌🏻
I use white latex caulk....like to seal around a tub.
Great videos & thank you for sharing your experiences! FYI, all wood contains moisture and will constantly move due to the grains and temperature changes. Hope that helps :)
I tried that and it was sticky and horrible. Maybe the stuff i used is a different mix in New Zealand
Hi!
I would try adding glue , a good amount, with my plaster when using a board. You need something to stick the plaster to the board and to give consistency to the powder. Hope that helps...
What’s the proportions you use to mix both, the plaster and the white glue ? Thanks
What kind of glue do you use??
@@duha7613Just PVA glue, like Elmers glue we used as kids.
1:37 for any one wondering, I was working on thin boards like these for some time, and they will bend, you shouldnt paint on something so thin if you want to hang or sell the painting, its unprofesional
I dislike them so much!!
Thx for your video :) I use drywall compound mixed with modeling paste from liquitex for example or mixed with liquid white glue (for kids) to avoid too many cracks and so on.
How much glue did you put in?
You need a thicker board and out 3 coats of varnish so the plaster sticks properly 😊
I got ready made filler and mixed it with glue it’s stayed on my board great and on my canvas get the ready mixed I got mine for pound land
So glad I saw this. I think you saved me a lot of time.
The reason your board warped was the water in the plaster soaked into the wood. You need to seal the board before using it.
It wasn't wood - it was a canvas panel, as opposed to Grace's other project, which was on a gallery wrapped canvas.
The canvas board warped - even _with_ her canvas panel being primed with gesso - because the substrate was not a strong nor firm/stable enough base, where ideally a primed *cradled wood panel* would be. Plaster of Paris is also very brittle and fragile, and the combination of the two tensions pulling against one another is what made it crack.
What do you seal the canvas with ?
Need your help. What do I use to seal the wood board since I’m not using canvas???
You could use a section of drywall or what's called concrete-board. Heavy stuff but sturdy. You could glue a wooden frame to concrete board for that matter. (You're giving me ideas)
Thank you so much yes this definitely help me out. I wasn’t sure about the plaster or the filler.
You saved my life
Hahaha love this
thank you, I was going to try it on a canvas board
Try using Wood Bondo for board/wood canvas’.
Paneling or Masonite will warp from the moisture in the goop Drying; .... Plywood will be sturdier & By All Means any shape plywood(Leftovers at a Construction Site) is creative Especially for testing. Good idea on wood to gritty sand scratches, aka 36 grit, for adhesion Promotions.
I like what you're doing! Try using some drywall joint compound in a 1 or 5 gallon bucket (with a blue lid) Like "Plus 3". I've textured a number of rooms with that stuff (similar to what you show at 0:17) Doing an entire wall is exhausting but it's fun ...and a great workout :)
@@AllThingsGrace I bet! In a way I think an entire wall can be easier because you use your entire body (kind of like hand washing a car 🤔) It helps to add a little water to thin it out a bit and mix it with a strong, power drill (1/2" chuck with a cord) and mixing paddle (you can revive an old bucket of drywall mud of any size with tap water by the way) One wall a day is enough for me :) but if you get in an "artistic groove" it can be hard to stop. After it dries I'll go back and knock off any high sharp/pointy spots that stick out with a sanding block. I've done single walls too. Small bathrooms are great when the sink, toilet, medicine cabinet are all removed/out of the way. I don't consider myself an artist but after I finished a bathroom (for an artist) she said I was.😁 She loved it ...and I loved that she loved it!
My favorite room is my living room. It's "all white" but with 3 subtly different whites (subtle shade/sheen differences) for trim, walls and ceiling. The wall texture then "changes depth" as the sun or other lighting changes.
I highly recommend: Sherwin Williams "Super Paint" in "Luminous White", flat for smooth ceilings. "Pure White" semi gloss for smooth trim, and "Dover White" flat for textured walls. (Tip: create an account and get a discount at Sherwin Williams. Pricey paint but totally worth it for coverage and durability)
You can "play" with those different whites in your artwork too. Have fun!
Sorry, I got a little carried away 🙂
@@robnation2475 enjoyed reading this! The different white sounds great!
@@Tassycrafty Thanks!
@@robnation2475 you sound so educated in this department! I just bought a the Gyprock easy flow Joint Compound. I’m looking into selling some of my art work.. before I do, would you know the longevity of the plaster? Would you say it’s appropriate to use than actual ‘art plaster’? I’ve always just worried about longevity/ strength. Thanks!
@@karlauesson Thanks! Once you have paint over the joint compound (aka mud) it should be very durable for years/decades. Drywall panels can warp a little so if you mount the drywall to some sturdy 1/2" or 5/8" plywood with some construction adhesive that should last a very long time. The plywood would give you something to attach a nice frame as well as screws/hangers/cables. Some home stores have tall/upright "panel saws" and they can cut plywood sheets to your specific size. Makes it a lot easier/lighter to transport home too. (Double check before you leave to see if they were cut perfectly square :)
I am excited to try a textured canvas. Thank you for sharing!
I use black canvas and latex tub caulk.
Very informative! Definitely won't be using a canvas board. Great video, you're a natural
Thank you for sharing your experience! Next time if you at least 1é2 inch plywood I doubt that you will have the crack problem with the plaster. I've done it several time and never have that problem. Also you can use different king of plaster that dry slower than other. The dry time is usually written on the bag and depending of where you live you can have some that can take up the 1h30 to dry wich may help you to create the texture you want. Have a good day!
So you are saying we should use plywood board for plaster work .
Thank you for your tips! Very helpful
Thank you very much❤. Do I have to paint it when the varnish dries? If yes, what type of varnish?
Some comments will say what I’m about to say. But why not try for example a 100cm x 100cm piece of plasterboard, and then stick the plaster onto that? It’s all about suction with plaster, so it can stick. Thanks for this!
You are just gorgeous
Thanks for sharing! You said in this video that you painted it in white after. Did you use white spray paint?
Modeling paste & spackle, I gesso the MDG wood first
Sounds like you're using plaster of Paris. Add some citric acid to it for more play time. You should be able to get it at bakery supplies.
Thanks for this kind of videos, very interesting. Could you tell me please, in other words what filler is....
Where are you watching from? :) 🌍
@@AllThingsGrace Hello, from Venezuela. Thanks in advance...
How long plaster will stick to canvas ? Do you recommend plaster artwork for selling?
Hola! Vi muchos videos que mezclan el relleno con cola vinilica voy a probar 😊
Maybe if you prime the board with paint on both sides first, it will stop the warping.
Can you please put a link for the filler when I Google some for buying nothing pops up that says filler for canvases. Thank you
Thank you for this!!!! So useful
Thank you for sharing the tips and tidbits😊
Thank you!
What if you gesso the board before plaster❤?
It's a canvas cloth or canvas paper are best for using miss?
so the first picture, which is structured, was made with plaster or putty? sorry for asking!
You should keep the broken pieces and re create a new piece with them.
I didn't used both but I want to do textured art, would u please tell me what is the filler? I don't know about it.
oh another thing to search and see what can be done in this media is Drywall Art. Some amazing videos here on youtube!
What does it called to the material that makes lines?
How do you prep your canvas to make sure the plaster or filler sticks?? And do you seal it once it’s dry or when it’s still wet??
Use gesso to prepere, wait to dry and verniks it
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Thank you. So Helpful
Did you use some primer on a board?
Do plaster works need to be sealed? Like I know with oil paintings you need a varnish.
@@AllThingsGrace thank you! Hopefully this helps with the cracking lol
I told a friend I would make her a canvas using filler,I slightly regreted offering as I'm water colour artist,but I thought to make the filler stick to the canvas I could use PVA blue mixed with filler? If anyone else has any ideas I would be grateful for your advise ,thanks x
* Sorry PVA Glue *
How much PVA glue ?? Like what consistency are you after ?
Have you ever tried the plaster that is already mixed And ready to use?? Or would that be considered the filler you speak of?
Good tips
J'aime beaucoup !! Merci à vous pour ces partages 🤗🤗🤗
I’m Very happy that I found your channel and your tips thank you so much my daughter has asked me to make her an abstract wall painting using plaster and I’m so glad that I found your video here so you’re saying seller is better does filler come with the color white or is it off-white and then what color paint that comes in white should I paint over it so that I can make sure the edges are smoothed out on canvas? And does it have to be sprayed with a sealer to set it?
Great Work Ty for sharing
@@AllThingsGrace Awww That’s Awesome news Angel!! Ok ty for the info want to do this for my daughters new home.. I’ll ck out your vids on the ones you completed 🎉🎉😄
it didn't stick to a biard, coz it's not porous enough. If you had board covered in canvas, which is painted with base layer, I think plaster would stick nicely. The other issue is - it can crack coz of bending the board.
I don't think any of you realise that canvas is quite flexible as it's a stretched material, and once the textured art is dry it cracks right away from canvas underneath
Hi thanks for this video! Im about to make a base relief for my school project, which is better to use plaster or filler? And is filler the same as joint compound? Thank you~
Does anyone know about filler on board or filler on wood/MDF for example?
get a kmart framed print which is mdf and the print is a form of plastic. sand the print to get the protective coating off. use gesso to prime it. use plaster of paris some water some acrylic house paint and add plenty of pva glue. I've made many of these and sold them. trust me they don't move or crack. don't forget to tape the frame with good quality painters tape to protect it but remove straight away when you finish your texture painting.
MDF WORKS A TREAT AND IS CHEAPER THAN CANVAS!
What’s filler?
I have an idea I wanna try myself but I’m not sure if it will work or how to go about it, but I want to create a textured wall with wall filler? Anyone have any tips or suggestions on will it work or not?
Put painters tape on the wall and do it on top of the painters tape just in case and if you dont like it you can just pull off the tape....or on top of a peel and stick wall paper.... I would also practice on a large canvas first
@@suras8984 thank you I think I will try the wallpaper idea 💡 😊
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can i use oil colors on plaster???
I do and it's my favorite way to paint my textured spackle pieces. It dries quick on the spackle, but it still gives you the freedom of oil painting
@@MeganDaugherty33 also can u tell me how u prepare ur texture paste using plaster...i completed a painting n im afraid if plaster is gonna crack down or something
Should I use a sealer after drying?
When using plaster, you have to prime first and sealed before doing the plaster thing. Keep it up.
What's a good primer and sealer?? I'm new to all of this and need recommendation
@@HERB902 gesso. Wait to dry. Then acrylic paint. Wait to dry. Then you can start to do your plaster on the canvas. Know that this isnt archival, this is,I think for personal decor only, because it will crack/fall off in 6months time. It wont last longer.
You may seal it with any acrylic varnish.
@@swordstifyfolk5032 oh really? this will crack off in 6 months from the canvas?? so whats the point unless it is for an event.
@@mariaiqbalart Maybe if you use outdoor spackle it wont crack since its meant to withstand the elements?
thank you for explain it.. i already subscribe... ☕️
Very good
Use a piece of drywall instead of wood it is made for applying plaster to it
whats filler?
Board needs to be at least 1/4" and should be coated with 50/50 weldbond glue and water first.
What is "filler"?
@@AllThingsGrace where I am, spackle comes in a little container, no more than 5 or 6 oz, and it's used for patching nail holes. Are you talking about drywall compound, perhaps? It comes in a powdered form to be mixed with water, and you can buy it with variable drying times of 20 minutes, 45 minutes and 90 minutes. I'm thinking the 90 minutes would be the best because it gives you more time to work with.
it would be better,if you used "liner" or "concrete lining" before applying the putty on the board..
Plaster don't stick to canvas. I just tried it and everything fell off
same happened to me...
Aren’t you supposed to use a cement board?!
what's a filler? can u give a brand name ?
@@AllThingsGrace thanxxx 🙏🏿
Thank you!
Glad I could help!