I will go with nidavanda since ksk would take atleast 10mins to reach chikbanavara from ypr at that time memu could have covered some distance to golhalli and further the same, Since this slow overtake caused both ksk and memu extra loss of time and finally it is the memu which suffered a lot with 25+min of halt
The distance between Chikabanavar and Nidavanda is more and the MEMU has to stop at all the stations in between which means the high priority KSK will be delayed further
I felt that the controllers could've anticipated the overtake beforehand and put 06575 on the PF-5 loop so that 12649 could have its usual mainline skip. The wait for 06575's passengers would've reduced by around 4/5 minutes....
Unfortunately Controller cant guess and wait that the issue with KSK would be sorted. What if the issue was not sorted and the MEMU had to wait for longer time. I hope you got the point why anticipation was not possible here with real time data.
Why was the KSK not allowed to take the overtake via down mail line, it was not occupied, there were no trains at that time and KSK wouldn't have to switch track 4 times(up main line to down main line, down main to reverse loop and vice versa) had the overtake happened via down main line. It would have saved some more time
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06. Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement ) Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
the train overtaking was definitely 12001/02 NDLS - RKMP - NDLS Shatabdi Express and I am not sure about the train which was in loop line, it might be south bound train🤷♂
Brother, my doubt is, since on the time of overtake, there were no trains coming from down line (towards yesvantpur/platform 4 line) know, so behalf of loop line 3 (platform 5) it would have overtook memu from down line and then later went to main up line towards golahalli know?? It would saved a little bit time
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06. Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement ) Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
Even 12649 could have passed through pf 4 instead of pf 5. But had the controllers planned properly, memu could have taken to pf 4 or 5 & let ksk overtake through main line at mps.
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06. Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement ) Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
@@TrainVideosNKCS 🙏.. few years back something same happened here in morning where, our train 16512 was taken to pf 4, while gol gumbaz arrived on pf 5 & 20654 bgm-sbc sf to pf 1, to let 12079 pass through main line & congestion further ahead at ypr & sbc.
Is it common that Gollahalli and Dodbele loop lines are always occupied? Is this one of the reasons why trains are made to wait in YPR outer always? Even VB is made to wait.
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06. Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement ) Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
@@TrainVideosNKCS hey thnx for the reply ! one more question, are all the loop lines generally configured for bi-directional running or is it only true in some cases?
Unfortunately Section controlling wont work with guess work. They have to use real time data. Only after the controllers know that the train is fit for departure, decisions will be taken.
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06. Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement ) Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
Excellent.. Superb explanation. Now I get more and more clarity on the train movements. Waiting for more of such explanations from you. Superb..
Thank you
I will go with nidavanda since ksk would take atleast 10mins to reach chikbanavara from ypr at that time memu could have covered some distance to golhalli and further the same, Since this slow overtake caused both ksk and memu extra loss of time and finally it is the memu which suffered a lot with 25+min of halt
The distance between Chikabanavar and Nidavanda is more and the MEMU has to stop at all the stations in between which means the high priority KSK will be delayed further
Woahh , Very Interesting , Well explained.
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wow! well explained
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Amazing explanation!!
Thank you
I felt that the controllers could've anticipated the overtake beforehand and put 06575 on the PF-5 loop so that 12649 could have its usual mainline skip. The wait for 06575's passengers would've reduced by around 4/5 minutes....
Unfortunately Controller cant guess and wait that the issue with KSK would be sorted. What if the issue was not sorted and the MEMU had to wait for longer time.
I hope you got the point why anticipation was not possible here with real time data.
i dont know about the overtake but the background music is a real welcome, i like it.
Nice information bro...keep doing more
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Why was the KSK not allowed to take the overtake via down mail line, it was not occupied, there were no trains at that time and KSK wouldn't have to switch track 4 times(up main line to down main line, down main to reverse loop and vice versa) had the overtake happened via down main line. It would have saved some more time
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06.
Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement )
Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
@@TrainVideosNKCS cool
Is there a reason why the wag9 showed loco shed as Dankuni on the side but in the first wag9 rear the ROU shed was written?
Dankuni is the place where the locomotive is manufactured ( CLW - Chittaranjan Locomotive Works )
the train overtaking was definitely 12001/02 NDLS - RKMP - NDLS Shatabdi Express and I am not sure about the train which was in loop line, it might be south bound train🤷♂
Brother, my doubt is, since on the time of overtake, there were no trains coming from down line (towards yesvantpur/platform 4 line) know, so behalf of loop line 3 (platform 5) it would have overtook memu from down line and then later went to main up line towards golahalli know??
It would saved a little bit time
Is it mandatory to cross the signal, can't they go on down line even if there is no signal on that track towards golhalli?
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06.
Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement )
Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
Yes, set of rules have to followed and can be skipped only under extreme conditions.
@@TrainVideosNKCSthanks for sharing this information 👍🙏
Even 12649 could have passed through pf 4 instead of pf 5. But had the controllers planned properly, memu could have taken to pf 4 or 5 & let ksk overtake through main line at mps.
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06.
Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement )
Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
@@TrainVideosNKCS 🙏.. few years back something same happened here in morning where, our train 16512 was taken to pf 4, while gol gumbaz arrived on pf 5 & 20654 bgm-sbc sf to pf 1, to let 12079 pass through main line & congestion further ahead at ypr & sbc.
0:39 Bhopal Shatabdi Express definitely
Awesome
Is it common that Gollahalli and Dodbele loop lines are always occupied? Is this one of the reasons why trains are made to wait in YPR outer always? Even VB is made to wait.
YPR outer issue is different matter all together. Platform non availability is the reason for trains getting detained outside Yesvantpur
why was the sampark kranti routed all the way thru loop line 3 (2:31)instead of thru the opposite line(the main line towards yesvantpur) ?
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06.
Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement )
Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
@@TrainVideosNKCS hey thnx for the reply ! one more question, are all the loop lines generally configured for bi-directional running or is it only true in some cases?
Section controlled should have waited the Memu at yesvantpur itself and started the local after KSK...That would have been the best option...
Unfortunately Section controlling wont work with guess work. They have to use real time data. Only after the controllers know that the train is fit for departure, decisions will be taken.
My guess is the trains at Bijrotha are 12001 and 12687!
You will get to know the answer soon :)
Hello sir plz make some voice over videos we really like your voice overs
No voice over will be shared on this channel. Will restart videos on the other channel soon :)
Good
Thank you
why cant the overtake be done in reverse main line
Opposite Main Line doesn't have Signal system to let a train skip or stop & start. Notice the frame at 06:06.
Opposite Main Line can be only used for shunting movements if the other lines are blocked ( Station limit movement )
Only in worst case scenario will the opposite main line be used with paper authority ticket for train skip. if all other lines are blocked
MEMU pickup in the end 😮
Yes, 3 phase MEMU have cray acceleration
Gatiman express
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