I ride anti rocker because my technique is terrible. With a flat setup my wheels would bite every edge and I'd go flying, hitting the ground with enough force to create a dust cloud that would block out the sun and start a new ice age.
I am very grateful for this info on flat set ups- I love riding flat, I do not like how anti-rocker/free style feels... Now, I never claim to be really great at grinds, I am not, I get that non-flat set ups can make grinding easier; I am not willing to give up the control I feel in a flat set up. Team flat here👍
Also great to see RB sponsoring this video, I remember years ago seeing a video where they wanted to sue you for using the term Rollerblade haha. How times change!? 💪
Team flat for me. I remember trying anti-rocker when I first started aggressive skating as a kid and it took the enjoyment out of skating. I didn't like the, what I would consider choppy style of skating, it caused me to have. Coming back to skating at 43, after close to 25 years away, really glad I chose a flat setup because I would probably look even worse than I do now, on an anti-setup. My body doesn't quite work as well as it did at 15 and I couldn't make it look good then, lol.
when I came back to blading like many of us, I bought some razors and came with anti-rockers I never did aggressive skating but i immediately was not a fan of anti-rocker,I couldn't take off fast,Id waste lots of more energy just trying to get around and just wasnt for me and the turns and cracks made it less desirable, so I got Aeons riding 58flat and the inside wheels 95 durometer been riding for 2 years I dont recall ever getting "wheel bite"and also i ride from point A to point B sometimes with an anti rocker it would be a nightmare just skating 1mile ,just my experience and preference,every1 can do as they please with their skates and money.
I have the exact same skates. I agree with you. What I learned is you must replace all the wheels that came on the FLT3 that came with the Razors. I endup just buying Oysi frame and wheels. Big change to the Razors
The reason I like flat and wizard setups is, they can be easier to turn but still stable. Also, I can step on speed bumps with a flat setup. Anti-rocker ones would make me just stuck on them for sure.
After 23 years away from skating I just bought a pair of Roces 5th element to skate with my little daughter around the parking lot. I always wanted aggressive skates because of their looks but the anti-rocker riding on 2 wheels felt really weird. At first I couldn't tell if it's me being rusty or it's the skates. Glad that nowadays we have options to change frames and wheels. I ordered a set of Rockin 572's because I can see myself riding on the sidewalks and don't want to worry about tripping.
Team flat over here! I don't focus on grinds as much anyway so I would rather have the speed and feel akin to a bigwheel setup. If I was just skating a ledge all day I would roll anti but that's not my norm.
Was riding flat for decades and went anti with a new set of NJ Teams a few years ago. I love the way they lock on groove tricks, but have to deal with all of the cons of anti rocker. I could just be in love with the Blank anti frame and the material it is made of. I may give those Blank flats a try if they’re constructed of the same composite.
Got back into rollerblading this year at 40 after about 20 years away. I bought some used razors that came anti-rocker. The first rail I jumped on I thought I was gonna die. Flat forever. The only reason I'd support anti-rocker is to save $45 bucks on wheels lol.
I’m still very new to this, but I’m starting to realize that flat is ABSOLUTELY the better option for me in my city. Our parks are dogshit, and the streets/sidewalks are even worse 😂😂. So I may be picking up a flat frame soon
You have a video too: antirocker is better! 😊 I like antirocker and flat setup also. My opinion is with flat setup harder to learn grinds. Wheel bait can make big injuries!
What about flat v rocker? I was ice skating today... new for me. It was WEIRD with what was basically, 1 wheel touching the ground, so I wondered, once I got used to it, which would be better? I don't notice that big a difference with rocker v my flat setup, BUT...
i was thinking about switching to flat setup and once you said "it's much better for your knees" i was sold. i'm also running the new Team Blank from Rollerblade which i think you have on in this video??
On flat I can switch my balance point across entire frame, each wheel stressing knees in a different way. It keeps me on the way without need to rest all the time. Especially on a bumpy street.
Those are the same reason, why i switched from anti to flat as soon as i was able to with my new skates, back in the 90s 😅. And since then i prefare flat.
The insane boost in maneuverability is SO worth losing some grinds or having to get better. I can't go back, it feels like I'm skating on a railroad track with anti rockers.
I just got my first skates, used to do a lot of indoor roller rink skating on quads as a kid and now I’m getting into freestyle/slalom skating. I just got a set of powerslide kaze 90’s and I’m loving the flat setup look, it’s super clean, especially with the black boots and frames with white wheels. Since I don’t know any better, anyone want to make a case on whether I should stick with the flats or switch to rocker for freestyle skating?
what would you recommend as a good flat frame to switch my anti-rocker to? i want to skate the yuto gotos 5th elements but i want to ride them flat. just dont know what to look for cause im very new to all of this.
That is all true. But you need also to say, that you can get horrible injuries if you jump on a ledge with high speed and then get wheel-bite. It can twist your knees or ankles in a horrible way. The same for grinds with spins or on rougher obstacles. Also on rails (especially on square ones) are some flat-frames quite dangerous. So, both setups have advantages and disadvantages. And speedwise I do not agree, that a flat setup is always faster than an antirocker-setup. Some flat-frames are actually pretty slow. And if I use the same wheels and bearings on some antirocker-frames, they are clearly faster. The only flat-frame that I tried that is clearly faster than an antirocker-frame is the Oysi-frame and I think also some metal-frames are also faster. But with all other plastic-flat frames than the Oysi that I tried I was clearly slower than for example with the Kizer fluid IV-antirocker frame.
Clearly not. I have spent 3 hours today changing from flat to antirocker. Antirocker sucks very hard. Sways 60s with FLT (AR) and Razors SL with Kiser V. No wheelbite. Just bend knees and adjust the angle and you are good.
I just came back to agg after some time away & before that i was just skating old man Urban Freestyle steez but kept doing makio's trashing my rec skates & knew next skates agg. Anyway back on aggs & baught flat set up because i wasnt sure how quick i would be grinding again or at all. Well i have trashed the stock set up & need new frames soul plates & wheels & been heavily thinking about anti-rocker because i skate street & ledges mainly its just a little more sketchy & i have to commit that bit harder, which has had some heavy cost's big falls, been an absolute ansluaght. I always skated anti-rocker in 90s but being older i am worried about my knees, i font remember it being so horrible. In my memory it was exactly the same once you get used to it... But thats a childs memory, a stupid child at that lol.
Until your external wheels wear more and you have a naturally rockered skate that will be quite dangerous in the ramps... It's better having different profile in the inner ones (rounded)
FLAT! but most of us older guys were on anti rocker setups back when our knees were younger. Agree that FLAT is much better after 2 knee surgeries. THANKS
Just bought first agressive inline's , first try was on rockered setup, in general i didnt like the feeling, very hard to turn. And good amount of effort to start Spinning. One thing i noticed it is with just one ride i had to turn the wheels... Wich means that yhe wearing is fast!. It was my first try, i wil try next time flat! But even without trying i think im more about flat...
Team flat, even though I haven't even started yet. Just got in the mail Broom's skates because they have a massive discount in the UK. I think flat will work better for me to learn how to skate.
Given everything that you said, I still ride anti rocker . Lol, but I am a street skater. I feel it is better for that. But you should skate what is more comfortable for you.
I keep buying new frames and giving the flat seconds and thirds changes... but always and up back on my ants hahaha (I guess I just use that flats as excuse to spend money in new gears 🎉, please don't tell my girl😅)
Is there a is fitness, street and urban skating the same thing? If not do you have a video that explains the difference with style and skates. @RicardoLino
Well, when you learn, surprisingly the freestyle or rocker is better cause forgives lots of mismatches while grinding But knees is probably the most important reason since you can replace all except your health
@@simongloutnez589regular flat frames will naturally rocker over time anyway (if wheels not rotated), so I’d still consider the slight rocker of a Oysi, a flat setup
#teamflat but I don't completely agree with Rollerblade on 270 being from size 42 onwards.. More like from size 42 to around 45..then you need a little extra wheelbase like on some brands like ground control that make a size XL with 283mm...i can barely see the back wheel pocking out from the back of my skates with my GC HD2 283mm and I'm downsizing to a size 46EU.. Shame they didn't also make it in a size 290 like what blanks usually come preinstalled.. I don't understand why tease us big footers with a decently sized frame for the boot and make a second version and not make it the same size🤷🏼♂️🥺
P.S: I broke my arm twice last year because im tall and I'm always forced to use the wrong wheelbase.. But never again. Lol. I know a thing or two about big feet, falling backwards no matter how much you stick your head down and wheelbases 😂
The only reason to dislike flat setup is to never had try it, my first pair was Anti-Rocker so I was anti rocker all the way, then I got my second pair Of agressive Skate those were flat and omg Skating for skating became fun again , on anti rocker grind were easier but on Flat skating is easier and on the long run On flat setup I could extend my sessions by few more cause Flat setup require less effort
If you do any sort of actual grinds, flat setup is going to screw you. Wheel bite is horrible. I been skating since 2000 and never once considered riding flat. I dont want to die trying to grind. If all you do is souls and frontsides then go flat. Never known any serious skater to ride flat. The speed sucks with antirocker I have to admit but its better than sticking on a ledge and flying forward.
I ride anti rocker because my technique is terrible. With a flat setup my wheels would bite every edge and I'd go flying, hitting the ground with enough force to create a dust cloud that would block out the sun and start a new ice age.
Okay now, i know you got your mom's gene but it ain't that dramatic
I am very grateful for this info on flat set ups- I love riding flat, I do not like how anti-rocker/free style feels... Now, I never claim to be really great at grinds, I am not, I get that non-flat set ups can make grinding easier; I am not willing to give up the control I feel in a flat set up. Team flat here👍
I agree, twice as many wheels = twice as much fun, right?
more than twice!
Also great to see RB sponsoring this video, I remember years ago seeing a video where they wanted to sue you for using the term Rollerblade haha. How times change!? 💪
Team flat for me. I remember trying anti-rocker when I first started aggressive skating as a kid and it took the enjoyment out of skating. I didn't like the, what I would consider choppy style of skating, it caused me to have. Coming back to skating at 43, after close to 25 years away, really glad I chose a flat setup because I would probably look even worse than I do now, on an anti-setup. My body doesn't quite work as well as it did at 15 and I couldn't make it look good then, lol.
when I came back to blading like many of us, I bought some razors and came with anti-rockers I never did aggressive skating but i immediately was not a fan of anti-rocker,I couldn't take off fast,Id waste lots of more energy just trying to get around and just wasnt for me and the turns and cracks made it less desirable, so I got Aeons riding 58flat and the inside wheels 95 durometer been riding for 2 years I dont recall ever getting "wheel bite"and also i ride from point A to point B sometimes with an anti rocker it would be a nightmare just skating 1mile ,just my experience and preference,every1 can do as they please with their skates and money.
I have the exact same skates. I agree with you. What I learned is you must replace all the wheels that came on the FLT3 that came with the Razors. I endup just buying Oysi frame and wheels. Big change to the Razors
The reason I like flat and wizard setups is, they can be easier to turn but still stable.
Also, I can step on speed bumps with a flat setup. Anti-rocker ones would make me just stuck on them for sure.
After 23 years away from skating I just bought a pair of Roces 5th element to skate with my little daughter around the parking lot. I always wanted aggressive skates because of their looks but the anti-rocker riding on 2 wheels felt really weird. At first I couldn't tell if it's me being rusty or it's the skates. Glad that nowadays we have options to change frames and wheels. I ordered a set of Rockin 572's because I can see myself riding on the sidewalks and don't want to worry about tripping.
Team flat over here! I don't focus on grinds as much anyway so I would rather have the speed and feel akin to a bigwheel setup. If I was just skating a ledge all day I would roll anti but that's not my norm.
Thanks for the explanation for the flat setup skates.
As an old man 28 year old that starting aggressive this year, I am glad I am starting flat. USD Sways FTW. THEM909s next.
Old man, that's considered young in rollerblading 😅
mfer! you making me feel ancient now at 38....
@OwlyWoods Never too old to skate, I shall skate till I'm 70. Also I have switched to the CO frames with antirocker. They rock so much for grinds!!
Bro I'm 42...
Was riding flat for decades and went anti with a new set of NJ Teams a few years ago. I love the way they lock on groove tricks, but have to deal with all of the cons of anti rocker. I could just be in love with the Blank anti frame and the material it is made of. I may give those Blank flats a try if they’re constructed of the same composite.
Got back into rollerblading this year at 40 after about 20 years away. I bought some used razors that came anti-rocker. The first rail I jumped on I thought I was gonna die. Flat forever. The only reason I'd support anti-rocker is to save $45 bucks on wheels lol.
4:15 Lino confirmed Illuminati 😱
good one!
I’m still very new to this, but I’m starting to realize that flat is ABSOLUTELY the better option for me in my city. Our parks are dogshit, and the streets/sidewalks are even worse 😂😂. So I may be picking up a flat frame soon
You have a video too: antirocker is better! 😊
I like antirocker and flat setup also. My opinion is with flat setup harder to learn grinds. Wheel bait can make big injuries!
What about flat v rocker?
I was ice skating today... new for me. It was WEIRD with what was basically, 1 wheel touching the ground, so I wondered, once I got used to it, which would be better? I don't notice that big a difference with rocker v my flat setup, BUT...
Rocker is a lovely experience, until you hit the verts or a landing then it gets a bit ropey
Totally agree!! Thanks for this Richie 🙌✊
i was thinking about switching to flat setup and once you said "it's much better for your knees" i was sold. i'm also running the new Team Blank from Rollerblade which i think you have on in this video??
On flat I can switch my balance point across entire frame, each wheel stressing knees in a different way. It keeps me on the way without need to rest all the time. Especially on a bumpy street.
You are right, but driving antirocker is a cheaper option 😅 and so for me better
Anti till i die ❤❤
Those are the same reason, why i switched from anti to flat as soon as i was able to with my new skates, back in the 90s 😅. And since then i prefare flat.
The insane boost in maneuverability is SO worth losing some grinds or having to get better.
I can't go back, it feels like I'm skating on a railroad track with anti rockers.
I just got my first skates, used to do a lot of indoor roller rink skating on quads as a kid and now I’m getting into freestyle/slalom skating. I just got a set of powerslide kaze 90’s and I’m loving the flat setup look, it’s super clean, especially with the black boots and frames with white wheels.
Since I don’t know any better, anyone want to make a case on whether I should stick with the flats or switch to rocker for freestyle skating?
what would you recommend as a good flat frame to switch my anti-rocker to? i want to skate the yuto gotos 5th elements but i want to ride them flat. just dont know what to look for cause im very new to all of this.
I started with aggressive skating by using anti-rocker and it just stuck. I think only needing to buy four wheels and bearings was the major reason.
That is all true. But you need also to say, that you can get horrible injuries if you jump on a ledge with high speed and then get wheel-bite. It can twist your knees or ankles in a horrible way. The same for grinds with spins or on rougher obstacles. Also on rails (especially on square ones) are some flat-frames quite dangerous. So, both setups have advantages and disadvantages. And speedwise I do not agree, that a flat setup is always faster than an antirocker-setup. Some flat-frames are actually pretty slow. And if I use the same wheels and bearings on some antirocker-frames, they are clearly faster. The only flat-frame that I tried that is clearly faster than an antirocker-frame is the Oysi-frame and I think also some metal-frames are also faster. But with all other plastic-flat frames than the Oysi that I tried I was clearly slower than for example with the Kizer fluid IV-antirocker frame.
Clearly not. I have spent 3 hours today changing from flat to antirocker. Antirocker sucks very hard. Sways 60s with FLT (AR) and Razors SL with Kiser V. No wheelbite. Just bend knees and adjust the angle and you are good.
I just came back to agg after some time away & before that i was just skating old man Urban Freestyle steez but kept doing makio's trashing my rec skates & knew next skates agg. Anyway back on aggs & baught flat set up because i wasnt sure how quick i would be grinding again or at all. Well i have trashed the stock set up & need new frames soul plates & wheels & been heavily thinking about anti-rocker because i skate street & ledges mainly its just a little more sketchy & i have to commit that bit harder, which has had some heavy cost's big falls, been an absolute ansluaght. I always skated anti-rocker in 90s but being older i am worried about my knees, i font remember it being so horrible. In my memory it was exactly the same once you get used to it... But thats a childs memory, a stupid child at that lol.
I really love 4*2wheels, but the sudden wheel bite is really a pain in the ass.
One of the best things about a flat setup is having extremely hard inner wheels and soft outter wheels.
Agreed
Until your external wheels wear more and you have a naturally rockered skate that will be quite dangerous in the ramps... It's better having different profile in the inner ones (rounded)
These frames are awesome
FLAT! but most of us older guys were on anti rocker setups back when our knees were younger. Agree that FLAT is much better after 2 knee surgeries. THANKS
Just bought first agressive inline's , first try was on rockered setup, in general i didnt like the feeling, very hard to turn. And good amount of effort to start Spinning. One thing i noticed it is with just one ride i had to turn the wheels... Wich means that yhe wearing is fast!.
It was my first try, i wil try next time flat! But even without trying i think im more about flat...
Team flat, even though I haven't even started yet. Just got in the mail Broom's skates because they have a massive discount in the UK. I think flat will work better for me to learn how to skate.
Have you tried the new Gawds Aton urban Skates yet???
Given everything that you said, I still ride anti rocker . Lol, but I am a street skater. I feel it is better for that. But you should skate what is more comfortable for you.
I keep buying new frames and giving the flat seconds and thirds changes... but always and up back on my ants hahaha
(I guess I just use that flats as excuse to spend money in new gears 🎉, please don't tell my girl😅)
Lino. Make wideo how go back to skate after long years of absence
Please review FR Skates UFR AP Antony Pottier Street skates
I’m anti rocket but I need to give a try flat one day 🤔 😅
its for aggresive skate setup, right?
The liners in the thumbnail look really cool! What model are they? Excuse my handle name, it’s just a joke!
Is there a is fitness, street and urban skating the same thing? If not do you have a video that explains the difference with style and skates. @RicardoLino
Good Video! 🤩 #teamflat since years
Well, when you learn, surprisingly the freestyle or rocker is better cause forgives lots of mismatches while grinding
But knees is probably the most important reason since you can replace all except your health
This is the first time ive heard polyurethane refered to as PU. ❤
Team flat ❤🔥
I am from team flat, but recently been digging in my oysi rockered frame ans my transitions are just that mich better 😅
@@simongloutnez589oysi still flat lol same as tomatoe tomato
@@icemanbtlr25 not truly, got like .45mm rocker
@@simongloutnez589regular flat frames will naturally rocker over time anyway (if wheels not rotated), so I’d still consider the slight rocker of a Oysi, a flat setup
@@Kevhoe of vourse your right, yet not having to break in the wheels is so much appreciated for me.
i truly cannot get any of my grinds riding a flat setup, not even frontside grinds, it’s kind of embarrassing
🙏❤ Your skill level so upgrade❤
Team 4 Wheel!
Team flat 🎉🎉🎉
I feel like you should have tagged Ben (irollerboot) in this.... also, I've been skating more flat these days, and yeah, my knee issues aren't as bad.
Ben used the wrong size wheels on his test skates, also the wrong size frame, prob not the best info from his test
@@behyseractive6418 lol, i was just joking. It's a running gag, as he always jokes about "i'm too old to skate flat"
Wheel bite is the main reason to use anti-rocker.
If you wear gear ,you don't have to worry about wheel bites ,also I ride flat and don't recall ever getting a wheelbite in the last 3yrs
yeah If you have good frame and wheels wheel bite doesnt exist
Flat is good for ramps and 4 x 4 is good for streets
#teamflat but I don't completely agree with Rollerblade on 270 being from size 42 onwards.. More like from size 42 to around 45..then you need a little extra wheelbase like on some brands like ground control that make a size XL with 283mm...i can barely see the back wheel pocking out from the back of my skates with my GC HD2 283mm and I'm downsizing to a size 46EU.. Shame they didn't also make it in a size 290 like what blanks usually come preinstalled.. I don't understand why tease us big footers with a decently sized frame for the boot and make a second version and not make it the same size🤷🏼♂️🥺
P.S: I broke my arm twice last year because im tall and I'm always forced to use the wrong wheelbase.. But never again. Lol. I know a thing or two about big feet, falling backwards no matter how much you stick your head down and wheelbases 😂
Team flat 4 lyfe. Love this vid.
I tried flat once.. All that happened is I landed flat on my ass. 😂
Team hi lo!
Flat for life
Team Flat!
FLAT for ever !
The only reason to dislike flat setup is to never had try it, my first pair was Anti-Rocker so I was anti rocker all the way, then I got my second pair Of agressive Skate those were flat and omg Skating for skating became fun again , on anti rocker grind were easier but on Flat skating is easier and on the long run On flat setup I could extend my sessions by few more cause Flat setup require less effort
#teamFlat
#TEAMFLAT
Team Flat. 🤚
Team flat !
Team flat but I still defend anti rocker to the death! Whatever gives you that flow and that feeling, who cares.
Do my Oysi mediums count as flat??
yes... depending on how you set them up.
team flat!
Come as you are...feel free
Team flat 💯
#TooOldForFlat
i try but no. anti-rocker still
TEAM FLAT
Na.. I like banana setup the most cuz im still usin oysi.. Peace!
Team flat fo-sho
I don't like skating flat I like banana rockered skating
Team FLAT only 🫡
#teamflat
If you do any sort of actual grinds, flat setup is going to screw you. Wheel bite is horrible. I been skating since 2000 and never once considered riding flat. I dont want to die trying to grind. If all you do is souls and frontsides then go flat. Never known any serious skater to ride flat. The speed sucks with antirocker I have to admit but its better than sticking on a ledge and flying forward.
I'm team flat!!!
Team flat.
Team flat!
Team flat 💜💯
#teamflat
#teamflat