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Wow, I have little idea of what you said, but I loved it. I think my take-a-way is that Apple is doing straight-forward quality design that best suits each product to ensure it performs optimally. I really don't need to know how it works, but I m so glad you do and you have the patience to try to explain it to me. Thanks Rene.
I've had my M2 Air since two weeks after launch. Such an amazing machine that fits my needs as an Economics student perfectly. I use excel and specialized modeling software frequently, and this device handles any size file like a champ.
Hey Rene! Developer documents and tutorials for Metal 3 mention ray tracing. I haven’t had time to dig in to those yet, but it seems Apple is at least building software accelerated RT into Metal 3. Hopefully opens the door for dedicated RT cores (or a version of the neural engine that can do RT) in the greater M2 chips or M3.
@@ReneRitchie Metal has API's for raytracing to happen concurrently on both CPU and GPU, so it's accelerating things for sure, through software, in hardware. Just use Blender 3.1/3.2 and switch to Metal, use both CPU/GPU concurrently and get a hefty improvement in performance. So it's not quite accurate to say Metal is just software raytracing, it's an API much like CUDA that gives developers access to hardware other than the CPU to run their raytracers on. In fact, Intel has done this with the excellent and widely adopted Embree raytracing libraries that take advantage of SIMD processing units within modern CPUs (these have been ported to M1 which has NEON SIMD units). These don't get a lot of attention but have been significant in the 3D arena. But yes, I would agree that Apple would be wise to develop specific circuitry for handing raytrace operations, much like NVIDIA has with RTX. But even RT cores need a "software raytracing" API akin to Metal to get them to work.
@@christopher3d475 They need to if they want to break into the rendering scene as Nvidia's Optix absolutely slaughters Apple's GPU no batter which RTX card it is. It would help a ton and probably entice many 3D artist to switch or use their mac for that job
@@ReneRitchie yeah. I think the secret sauce for apple lies in the neural engine instead of trying to fit another cluster of cores on the SoC. “Neural engine pro”?
No one explains this stuff to a granular level like you Renee. I don’t know as much as you do about silicon but you explain it well enough that it makes logical sense. Can’t wait to see if and when Apple Silicon will hit the walls of physics and how they decide to solve that problem as well. It’s a great time to be alive Renee, thanks for all you do!!!
Man, I’m really tempted to buy the M2 Air to replace my M1 Air! It seems like it will have nearly all the the things I need and at a fair price, which causing me to reconsider my plans to upgrade to the M1 Pro MacBook Pro. The ONLY thing I’m having to hesitate about, pertaining to the M2 Air, is the lack of a ProMotion display, which is a function feature that means a lot to me since my laptop is where I get the entirety of my entertainment from (besides my iPhone). I don’t really need any of the other Pro specs of the M1 Pro MacBook Pro. However, the price difference is mighty, and I’m not sure I can justify spending $1500ish more for that amazing display panel and the legacy ports. Dang it, I don’t know what to do!
You mentioned two Thunderbolt controllers. Comparing the M1, did it also have two TB controllers? Were the two TB ports controlled by one or two TB controllers? One my M1 MBA, I can only connect one TB bus-powered external drive at a time. Does the M2 allow two TB bus-powered external drives to be connected at the same time (I assume nobody know this yet but when you get an M2 MBA, please check this along with R/W issues on external drives.). I am also hoping Apple fixed the poor TB external drive write speed. Some of this depends on the external drive controller but everyone with an M1 MBA knows write speed sucks (basically TB2 speed) while read speed is very nice. I have a 1TB TB drive attached to my MBA's lid to handle the data storage my 512GB internal doesn't handle. My next Mac will definitely be purchased with more internal storage even thought it costs more than external storage. What I'd really love to see is a unified memory port for specialized Apple storage that extends the internal storage with at least 60% of the internal storage speed. This would be faster than any TB3/4 connected storage on the market today.
is like upgradable DRAM slots to enhance the Universal Memory at a lower performance and lower price. but i doubt that Apple cares about us and considers it a non-profitable direction. Looking us into Apple Tax is the way they want to go.
they have small teams at Apple. it’s part of the culture. staggering allows them to work on one SoC at a time, and also for all the production line roll out to be staggered. it makes commercial sense even if it’s frustrating for us as consumers.
Apple actively avoids processors the scaling in their processors that infringes their power to performance ratio. You see intel alder lake has processors that has 15 watt 14 core mobile and 155 watt 16 core desktop. But 2 performance cores don’t do the same performance difference compared to their power. Apple keeps avoiding this, probably the main source of apple’s scalable architecture philosophy that gives both high performance and high efficiency. They always designs their cpu and gpu to be as power efficient and powerful at the same time and rarely changes their power usage and frequency but rather make wider cores and add more powerful but efficient cores.
The part with the external Monitor support is a massive disappointment… this device starts at 1400€ it should be included. I don‘t want apple to dictate what pro or non pros do. Especially since the m1pro supports it
especially when Apple are prohibiting it in firmware/software, the hardware especially with full options on cores and Universal memory can drive six monitors.
@11:30 = Which chip is better for my Neural Engine-bound applications: (1) The M2 with its 40% faster NE cores; or (2) The M1 Extreme with its 100% higher number of NE cores?
I had to kick this up to 1.25 speed. You normally speak faster. What will come of those encode/decode for non video use? Just unused die? Seems odd for Apple. Future use for games/VR?
Rene I think people that analyze the die shots of these chips have counted the SLC size to be 8MB, same as the M1 (and 1/2 even the A14's cache). I think Apple doesn't want to blow up the baseline M-series size when even the new media engine, new E-cores, new memory controller, etc. by themselves increase the die size enough. The M2 has many more features it has to pack than the A15, like all of those things that I mentioned and in addition the 10-bit 6K60 capable display pipe, which as some people have pointed out by itself occupies more space than 2 of the P-cores of the M1 Pro. I think the M-series will eventually get the big SLC sizes of the A-series though. Apple just needs more transistor budget, which they didn't have much of this time around and already have to increase the die size by 25%. Consequently, I wouldn't expect the same efficiency increases that we got with the A15, at least not identical gains, unless the new LPDDR5 memory is that much more efficient (at least the DRAM modules themselves, not the memory controller).
For everyone complaining that their M1 (or soon to have M2) MacBook Air can’t power two external displays, I have one word - DisplayLink. Yes I know, it’s a dongle/hub solution and costs another $100 or so, but just stop your whining, get a dual display USB-C hub and be done with it. Are you really willing to let this very small inconvenience be the hill you die on? (Written with my M1 MacBook Air using the internal display, two external displays and connected to my iPad Pro via Universal Control. Technology is great!)
I had to pull out the transcript, because I didn’t catch the word you were saying- And the transcript… DID NOT catch what were saying either!! 🤔😆 Oh well…
l still have the 2012 mbpr 15", the display resolution is sufficient, ie it can fit in the software l use fairly comfortably, of course higher resolution would be nicer. the current mb air M1's resolution screen real estate is insufficient. does the M2 mac air have the same or better screen resolution than my mbpr 2012? if not which macbook will be the same or better screen resolution? thanks!
Good grief! The IEEE published a cover obituary for Moore's Law several years ago now. Clock speed is no longer increasing exponentially, and will never again increase exponentially.
Hi. Thanks. I have an m1 air. I am videoconferencing with a Sony SV-1 with a cam link. I can only get 1080p out of it. Will the video codec help with VC?
I have to disagree with your analysis of why Apple have not utilized Thunderbolt 4 external ports. I believe they have intentionally used the lower spec, increasingly obsolescent Thunderbolt 4, port in order to upswell people to the more expensive, higher profit margin product.
i think you meant they stick with TB3 but i agree that it was for marketing reasons not any issues about the hardware not being able to drive it or people wanting TB4 and two monitors.
I was keen to get a m1 device but the lack of media engine was a deal breaker leaning me towards M1 pro. M2 changes that now with it bring added plus the benefit of a more powerful Neural Engine which helps with AI upscale apps. So technically m2 is the better choice for my use case’s and budget
Do you think Apple Silicon can peak as soon as M3? I remember the days of Pentium I and then Pentium II and it was abysmal. But then they peaked further ahead
All I need to know is will M2 really take advantage of software like Maya, Zbrush and Houdini for 3D artist? I’m trying to decide between building another pc or wait for the pro and max versions of m2.
Stick to the pc and purchase O.S at lest your own your products you make , read apple tiny weeny small print in t and c on leasing the mac product, Its an education in use of leasing laws, and who just will own the clouds rights on innovation of your work if it works and you hit big time,
Covered in the video. ARMv9 doesn't mean much for Apple because, with the exception of the new vector instructions, everything is pretty much a back port of what Apple's already done with their ISA license. ARM just wants to package them up for design licensees and... less forward moving OEMs.
@@ReneRitchie None of these MacBooks run ARM ver9 , aka A16 Bionic chip. Therefore not a true ARM ver9 upgrade. So, we can only think of 2 scenarios now. One in which Apple holds off the ARM V9 architecture, and the other, where they do implement it. Scenario 1 In this case, the M2 chip will be based on the A15 Bionic chip, and will only support ARM version 8. There will not be any improvements at all from the Software point of view. This will still be based on TSMC’s N4P process. Scenario 2 In this case, the M3 chip will be based on the next-generation A16 bionic chips that will have support for ARM version 9. In this scenario, we will be getting major security updates, as well as better efficiency, that will lead to greater battery life on the M3 devices. Wait till M3 supports Arm ver 9 for a Full M3 Chip, or maybe a true M2x chip. But this is not the latest ARM 9 version, Apple is still working on that. Your either into the Full Arm Ecosystem or your out. Apple used Ver 8 Why would they stop? At A15? They just haven’t implemented the ARM ver 9 as yet. My very first computer back in the UK was an Acorn Archimedes, the mainframe we used was an NCR Elliot which we rented time on for Engineering, I had the pleasure of meeting Sophie Wilson while testing Acorn Computers in Cambridge UK
@@winstonsmith935 ARMv9 doesn't really matter is what I'm saying. ARM64 was essentially an Apple-driven ISA. Apple has a full ISA license. They can do what they want. ARMv9 is just ARM following Apple's lead for their other customers. I wouldn't be the least surprised if Apple made their own CPU ISA (SwiftISA?) at some point. They're pretty much doing that with AGX now anyway. ARMv9 is like the least interesting thing for future A/M series?
@@ReneRitchie It’s now irrelevant to me as I’m a retired Forensic Engineer, I still consultant in Engineering and use an M1 Mac mini, and iPad is purely a media consumption device, I use it mainly for Navigation off the West Coast of BC, with a GPS receiver, there isn’t a place I can’t sail to., Hawaii was my first destination and the iPad was excellent for Navigation.
U got it correct that m1 was based on a14 and m2 is based on a15. For some reasons literally every other utuber believes m1 and m2 are both based on a15.
I don’t need all of the features of the MacBook Pro other than the multiple external display support. So the extra money it costs as well as the bulk is unnecessary for me. It’s interesting that Renee dismisses external display support as a geek/non-mainstream feature yet goes on about the media encodes as if the mainstream is all editing videos.
But I don't want thin in a laptop. It is pointless to reduce on dimension to nil when the other two cannot be changed. What I want in a laptop is something practical, something that can be modified and perhaps even something that's a kit. Yeah, like the Framework.
This was an informative video. It's nice to see a discourse on what the new chip is and how it compares to other M series processors as well as the silicon from which it was derived. I'm just so tired of the agenda-driven content about Apple. It's so tiresome. Every day my sub box is smacked with videos about how Apple hid secrets about the M2 from us, how the M2 is worse than we think and how Apple intentionally crippled the chip by basing it off the A15, rather than the upcoming A16. These are the SAME CHANNELS that last year talked about how Apple made a last moment move from a flat-sided apple watch series 7 to a rounded edge design and re-branded the old chip rather than put the newer, ready-to-ship chip in the watch. Like a company the size of Apple can turn on a dime right before a product announcement about not only the internals, but also the form factor of the device. And these channels have a million subscribers. So people are consuming this crap and it's helping to shape their opinions. Anyway, all of this is to say that I appreciate this channel and what you do. It's just nice to watch a video, learn about a topic and not have to feel anxiety or a knot in my stomach while watching. Like if I buy an M2 Mac I'm getting ripped off. It's nice to just enjoy technology, and if based on facts I feel the M1 is barely worse than the M2, I can make the decision myself to buy the M1. I don't need it jammed down my throat. Lol I'll stop now. Thanks again, Rene. Have a great afternoon :)
It feels disapointing to me only because I watched your speculative videos after M1 launched about how powerul M2 would be and I got carried away believing the hype.
When someone speculates about the future he or she always tries to test all possible branches. Apple does that too, but then they sit down and prune that down to fit the product they are planing to make for that year. They never ever "do it all".
With the delay in the 3nm TSMC architecture this was inevitable so hard to blame Apple if the tech is delayed. It is a pretty solid update, better than most Intel upgrades over the last 10 years!
The percentage difference from 16 million to 20 million is 25 percent, the M2 is NOT 25 percent bigger in size than M1 so your wrong about the density, M2’s 5nm is alot denser than M1’s 5nm, 25 percent denser to be exact.
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🤔 M2 MacBook Air tempting you, or waiting on new, full-on M2 Pros?
MacBook Air with M2 all the way! Is more than enough for an average user!
Very tempted.
Your presenations have become so much better and relaxed compared to a year ago! Practice makes perfect… congratulations!
yep. the breathless ten line sentences have gone. yay!
Love the deep dives, especially about silicon.
Same here. Can’t wait for him to dig into the graphics more
How’d you do that apple icon?
@@NateFord copy and paste it from a source.
@@NateFord copy it, set your phone to replace Apple or Appel with
@@NateFord 'Option-a' on a Mac's keyboard.
Wow, I have little idea of what you said, but I loved it. I think my take-a-way is that Apple is doing straight-forward quality design that best suits each product to ensure it performs optimally. I really don't need to know how it works, but I m so glad you do and you have the patience to try to explain it to me. Thanks Rene.
Your first sentence: same hahah
It’s more then that tbh
I've had my M2 Air since two weeks after launch. Such an amazing machine that fits my needs as an Economics student perfectly. I use excel and specialized modeling software frequently, and this device handles any size file like a champ.
Always appreciate that you consistently come through with the most thorough and detailed videos.
Hey Rene! Developer documents and tutorials for Metal 3 mention ray tracing. I haven’t had time to dig in to those yet, but it seems Apple is at least building software accelerated RT into Metal 3. Hopefully opens the door for dedicated RT cores (or a version of the neural engine that can do RT) in the greater M2 chips or M3.
Metal is software raytracing. I think nerds are hoping for hardware raytracing in the silicon?
@@ReneRitchie Metal has API's for raytracing to happen concurrently on both CPU and GPU, so it's accelerating things for sure, through software, in hardware. Just use Blender 3.1/3.2 and switch to Metal, use both CPU/GPU concurrently and get a hefty improvement in performance. So it's not quite accurate to say Metal is just software raytracing, it's an API much like CUDA that gives developers access to hardware other than the CPU to run their raytracers on. In fact, Intel has done this with the excellent and widely adopted Embree raytracing libraries that take advantage of SIMD processing units within modern CPUs (these have been ported to M1 which has NEON SIMD units). These don't get a lot of attention but have been significant in the 3D arena.
But yes, I would agree that Apple would be wise to develop specific circuitry for handing raytrace operations, much like NVIDIA has with RTX. But even RT cores need a "software raytracing" API akin to Metal to get them to work.
@@christopher3d475 They need to if they want to break into the rendering scene as Nvidia's Optix absolutely slaughters Apple's GPU no batter which RTX card it is. It would help a ton and probably entice many 3D artist to switch or use their mac for that job
I think im too stupid to comment here but thanks for the deep dive Rene! 😳
@@ReneRitchie yeah. I think the secret sauce for apple lies in the neural engine instead of trying to fit another cluster of cores on the SoC. “Neural engine pro”?
You’re not only my favorite Apple information channel, but you’re the only one I really trust. Thank you for everything to do!
The M2 feels more like a stop-gap processor as there are already rumors that the M2 Pro and Max will come in 3nm architecture.
I’m here to learn 🙇🏻
Ha! So great seeing you this week!
I love it when you take a deep dive and talk nerdy. Too many channels only go superficial with their information.
No one explains this stuff to a granular level like you Renee. I don’t know as much as you do about silicon but you explain it well enough that it makes logical sense. Can’t wait to see if and when Apple Silicon will hit the walls of physics and how they decide to solve that problem as well. It’s a great time to be alive Renee, thanks for all you do!!!
As soon as the M2 was announced I couldn't wait for this video. Thanks as always Rene!!
Rene… I always enjoy your breakdowns. Looking forward to more videos.💯
Omg this is a wayyy better vid than Maxtech’s “Is M2 a disappointment?” Video
For some reason, I tend to play "guess the sponsor by the segue" game by the time it almost hits. Haha!
I’m looking forward to getting an M2 Air. Good video!
These are good video's instead of al the other apple youtubers with iphone 14 guesses / rumors
Thanks so much!
God damn those ad transitions are so smooth every time
Man, I’m really tempted to buy the M2 Air to replace my M1 Air! It seems like it will have nearly all the the things I need and at a fair price, which causing me to reconsider my plans to upgrade to the M1 Pro MacBook Pro.
The ONLY thing I’m having to hesitate about, pertaining to the M2 Air, is the lack of a ProMotion display, which is a function feature that means a lot to me since my laptop is where I get the entirety of my entertainment from (besides my iPhone). I don’t really need any of the other Pro specs of the M1 Pro MacBook Pro.
However, the price difference is mighty, and I’m not sure I can justify spending $1500ish more for that amazing display panel and the legacy ports.
Dang it, I don’t know what to do!
Tip: wait until the reviews.
Thanks…I continue to enjoy and appreciate content in this direction. Blessings on your day.
Supporting multiple 8K ProRes streams but not 2 sceeens is an incredibly weird choice.
I ran a video export test in fcpx comparing the 14 inch m1pro with the new m2 and m1pro is almost twice as fast!!
Love the long vids!
You mentioned two Thunderbolt controllers. Comparing the M1, did it also have two TB controllers? Were the two TB ports controlled by one or two TB controllers? One my M1 MBA, I can only connect one TB bus-powered external drive at a time. Does the M2 allow two TB bus-powered external drives to be connected at the same time (I assume nobody know this yet but when you get an M2 MBA, please check this along with R/W issues on external drives.). I am also hoping Apple fixed the poor TB external drive write speed. Some of this depends on the external drive controller but everyone with an M1 MBA knows write speed sucks (basically TB2 speed) while read speed is very nice. I have a 1TB TB drive attached to my MBA's lid to handle the data storage my 512GB internal doesn't handle. My next Mac will definitely be purchased with more internal storage even thought it costs more than external storage. What I'd really love to see is a unified memory port for specialized Apple storage that extends the internal storage with at least 60% of the internal storage speed. This would be faster than any TB3/4 connected storage on the market today.
is like upgradable DRAM slots to enhance the Universal Memory at a lower performance and lower price. but i doubt that Apple cares about us and considers it a non-profitable direction. Looking us into Apple Tax is the way they want to go.
So far one of the best review I seen and I seen a lot 😅 keep up the good work loving your content
oh, it took me a few minutes to realise that the entire video was a promotional video for the M2, not really an analysis of its features hahaha
it would be a lot more convenient if they released the entire lineup of chips at once (M2 along with the Pro/Max/Ultra variants)
they have small teams at Apple. it’s part of the culture. staggering allows them to work on one SoC at a time, and also for all the production line roll out to be staggered. it makes commercial sense even if it’s frustrating for us as consumers.
Probably one of the videos I anticipated the most this week. Can’t wait to hear what you have to say.
Man you make the smoke just clear out the way
excellent eplanation
This man is so informative. I learned more in this video than I did in any other tech video. Well done, sir, well done!
What's going on with Anandtech? I used to love reading those guys. Are they in some kind of danger of folding? Because that would suck... 😰
how do you know if they use 12 & 12 gb RAM or 16 & 8 gb RAM?
Apple actively avoids processors the scaling in their processors that infringes their power to performance ratio. You see intel alder lake has processors that has 15 watt 14 core mobile and 155 watt 16 core desktop. But 2 performance cores don’t do the same performance difference compared to their power. Apple keeps avoiding this, probably the main source of apple’s scalable architecture philosophy that gives both high performance and high efficiency. They always designs their cpu and gpu to be as power efficient and powerful at the same time and rarely changes their power usage and frequency but rather make wider cores and add more powerful but efficient cores.
Rene is my go to for cravings of tech deep dives.
Mac mini m1 or macbook air m2 which one should i get?
The part with the external Monitor support is a massive disappointment… this device starts at 1400€ it should be included. I don‘t want apple to dictate what pro or non pros do. Especially since the m1pro supports it
especially when Apple are prohibiting it in firmware/software, the hardware especially with full options on cores and Universal memory can drive six monitors.
Why is it so expensive in Europe?? In the us it starts at 1200
@11:30 = Which chip is better for my Neural Engine-bound applications: (1) The M2 with its 40% faster NE cores; or (2) The M1 Extreme with its 100% higher number of NE cores?
will the M2 iPad Pro have the 24gb ram option?
This was extremely helpful. Thank you.
I had to kick this up to 1.25 speed. You normally speak faster.
What will come of those encode/decode for non video use? Just unused die? Seems odd for Apple. Future use for games/VR?
Fantastic job thanks!
Rene I think people that analyze the die shots of these chips have counted the SLC size to be 8MB, same as the M1 (and 1/2 even the A14's cache). I think Apple doesn't want to blow up the baseline M-series size when even the new media engine, new E-cores, new memory controller, etc. by themselves increase the die size enough. The M2 has many more features it has to pack than the A15, like all of those things that I mentioned and in addition the 10-bit 6K60 capable display pipe, which as some people have pointed out by itself occupies more space than 2 of the P-cores of the M1 Pro.
I think the M-series will eventually get the big SLC sizes of the A-series though. Apple just needs more transistor budget, which they didn't have much of this time around and already have to increase the die size by 25%.
Consequently, I wouldn't expect the same efficiency increases that we got with the A15, at least not identical gains, unless the new LPDDR5 memory is that much more efficient (at least the DRAM modules themselves, not the memory controller).
He always does the best segways
Thanks Rene
For everyone complaining that their M1 (or soon to have M2) MacBook Air can’t power two external displays, I have one word - DisplayLink. Yes I know, it’s a dongle/hub solution and costs another $100 or so, but just stop your whining, get a dual display USB-C hub and be done with it. Are you really willing to let this very small inconvenience be the hill you die on? (Written with my M1 MacBook Air using the internal display, two external displays and connected to my iPad Pro via Universal Control. Technology is great!)
Hi Rene, how does m2 compare to m1 pro?
How many HE cores do you expect the M2 Pro/Max to have?
I had to pull out the transcript, because I didn’t catch the word you were saying-
And the transcript…
DID NOT catch what were saying either!!
🤔😆
Oh well…
Good stuff, Rene!
Amazing and super detailed!
Switching from my intel mbp to m1 I was already like “wtf” @ battery life and performance ( on battery)
l still have the 2012 mbpr 15", the display resolution is sufficient, ie it can fit in the software l use fairly comfortably, of course higher resolution would be nicer. the current mb air M1's resolution screen real estate is insufficient. does the M2 mac air have the same or better screen resolution than my mbpr 2012? if not which macbook will be the same or better screen resolution? thanks!
Soon we will have single chip computer, only we need power, input and output interfaces alone to be connect as external modules.
Thanks from the power technology of apple silicon and people need to thanks swift language is efficient and fast. We need to thanks for both.
When will MBA-M2 orders start?
I wonder if apple will ship M2 MBP 14 and 16 inch?
Good grief! The IEEE published a cover obituary for Moore's Law several years ago now. Clock speed is no longer increasing exponentially, and will never again increase exponentially.
What do you think will happen if apple enables SMT? Do you think Apple will support SMT in the future?
Hi. Thanks. I have an m1 air. I am videoconferencing with a Sony SV-1 with a cam link. I can only get 1080p out of it. Will the video codec help with VC?
I have to disagree with your analysis of why Apple have not utilized Thunderbolt 4 external ports. I believe they have intentionally used the lower spec, increasingly obsolescent Thunderbolt 4, port in order to upswell people to the more expensive, higher profit margin product.
i think you meant they stick with TB3 but i agree that it was for marketing reasons not any issues about the hardware not being able to drive it or people wanting TB4 and two monitors.
Apple should hire you for the next wwdc!
can you do a A16 video?
Well done analysis, thank you Ritchie - subscribed! :)
Just EXCELLENT video. ❤
I was keen to get a m1 device but the lack of media engine was a deal breaker leaning me towards M1 pro. M2 changes that now with it bring added plus the benefit of a more powerful Neural Engine which helps with AI upscale apps. So technically m2 is the better choice for my use case’s and budget
Do you think Apple Silicon can peak as soon as M3? I remember the days of Pentium I and then Pentium II and it was abysmal. But then they peaked further ahead
Well, there's huge node shrink for that...
All I need to know is will M2 really take advantage of software like Maya, Zbrush and Houdini for 3D artist? I’m trying to decide between building another pc or wait for the pro and max versions of m2.
By the time it does, M3 will be out. Don't buy new products and expect great support right away.
It depends on those companies I would imagine. Ask them, they might answer you.
Depends on which software you use, I used blender on my friends M1 Mac and it litreally files, amazing performance for a laptop with 8 gigs RAM.
Stick to the pc and purchase O.S at lest your own your products you make , read apple tiny weeny small print in t and c on leasing the mac product, Its an education in use of leasing laws, and who just will own the clouds rights on innovation of your work if it works and you hit big time,
EXCELLENT!!!
Unfortunately not running ARM ver9. So have to Waite for the M3
Covered in the video. ARMv9 doesn't mean much for Apple because, with the exception of the new vector instructions, everything is pretty much a back port of what Apple's already done with their ISA license. ARM just wants to package them up for design licensees and... less forward moving OEMs.
@@ReneRitchie None of these MacBooks run ARM ver9 , aka A16 Bionic chip. Therefore not a true ARM ver9 upgrade.
So, we can only think of 2 scenarios now. One in which Apple holds off the ARM V9 architecture, and the other, where they do implement it.
Scenario 1
In this case, the M2 chip will be based on the A15 Bionic chip, and will only support ARM version 8. There will not be any improvements at all from the Software point of view. This will still be based on TSMC’s N4P process.
Scenario 2
In this case, the M3 chip will be based on the next-generation A16 bionic chips that will have support for ARM version 9. In this scenario, we will be getting major security updates, as well as better efficiency, that will lead to greater battery life on the M3 devices.
Wait till M3 supports Arm ver 9 for a Full M3 Chip, or maybe a true M2x chip. But this is not the latest ARM 9 version, Apple is still working on that.
Your either into the Full Arm Ecosystem or your out. Apple used Ver 8 Why would they stop? At A15? They just haven’t implemented the ARM ver 9 as yet.
My very first computer back in the UK was an Acorn Archimedes, the mainframe we used was an NCR Elliot which we rented time on for Engineering, I had the pleasure of meeting Sophie Wilson while testing Acorn Computers in Cambridge UK
@@winstonsmith935 ARMv9 doesn't really matter is what I'm saying. ARM64 was essentially an Apple-driven ISA. Apple has a full ISA license. They can do what they want. ARMv9 is just ARM following Apple's lead for their other customers. I wouldn't be the least surprised if Apple made their own CPU ISA (SwiftISA?) at some point. They're pretty much doing that with AGX now anyway. ARMv9 is like the least interesting thing for future A/M series?
@@ReneRitchie It’s now irrelevant to me as I’m a retired Forensic Engineer, I still consultant in Engineering and use an M1 Mac mini, and iPad is purely a media consumption device, I use it mainly for Navigation off the West Coast of BC, with a GPS receiver, there isn’t a place I can’t sail to., Hawaii was my first destination and the iPad was excellent for Navigation.
Does Procreate work with iOS 16
Sorry, “they’re rolled into a single die, like _____”? Auto-captions don’t know what you said, either. 0:57.
But can it play Crysis???
Great video 🍎🍎
When you say “perf chart”, I think it’s time to take a walk in the world.
PLEASE no music behind any narration. You're hyper enough 😊
U got it correct that m1 was based on a14 and m2 is based on a15. For some reasons literally every other utuber believes m1 and m2 are both based on a15.
I don’t need all of the features of the MacBook Pro other than the multiple external display support. So the extra money it costs as well as the bulk is unnecessary for me. It’s interesting that Renee dismisses external display support as a geek/non-mainstream feature yet goes on about the media encodes as if the mainstream is all editing videos.
M2 price is £200 more people who waiting for make sure u have the saving for the Mac mini
Please teach the programmers how to write Effective and Efficient software for the new chipsets !
Ease of use for the programmers ! Tap the true performance of the new chipsets !
Mmmm… M2 Maki… [drools]
Don’t know if I should get the new m2 MacBook Air, wait for a refurbished 14” MacBook Pro, or wait for an M2 MacBook Pro.
But I don't want thin in a laptop. It is pointless to reduce on dimension to nil when the other two cannot be changed. What I want in a laptop is something practical, something that can be modified and perhaps even something that's a kit. Yeah, like the Framework.
You want a computer that can be opened and you want it from apple? Yeah its not gonna happen
Apple has really been firing on all cylinders now for years, how do you even compete with them?!
lol those are just some mobile cpus are stack together...
Timestamps doko?
me watching this as my i5 is pushing 3.6 Ghz
Knee 🦵 Gi 🥋 Ri (as in the way Americans mid prounounce Rene, as in do over Re) = Nigiri 🍣
Thank you, Sensei! 🙇♂️ Appreciate you!
This was an informative video. It's nice to see a discourse on what the new chip is and how it compares to other M series processors as well as the silicon from which it was derived. I'm just so tired of the agenda-driven content about Apple. It's so tiresome. Every day my sub box is smacked with videos about how Apple hid secrets about the M2 from us, how the M2 is worse than we think and how Apple intentionally crippled the chip by basing it off the A15, rather than the upcoming A16. These are the SAME CHANNELS that last year talked about how Apple made a last moment move from a flat-sided apple watch series 7 to a rounded edge design and re-branded the old chip rather than put the newer, ready-to-ship chip in the watch. Like a company the size of Apple can turn on a dime right before a product announcement about not only the internals, but also the form factor of the device. And these channels have a million subscribers. So people are consuming this crap and it's helping to shape their opinions. Anyway, all of this is to say that I appreciate this channel and what you do. It's just nice to watch a video, learn about a topic and not have to feel anxiety or a knot in my stomach while watching. Like if I buy an M2 Mac I'm getting ripped off. It's nice to just enjoy technology, and if based on facts I feel the M1 is barely worse than the M2, I can make the decision myself to buy the M1. I don't need it jammed down my throat. Lol I'll stop now. Thanks again, Rene. Have a great afternoon :)
I was wondering why it took you so long to get this out and talk about the M2
He has been at WWDC all week.
apple forget 64 bit, move to 128 bit cpu(s) and hangout for awhile.
I don't even care about m2 just want a dark colored silent laptop
m2 Air should replace M2 MBP 13!
Pink ❤️
It feels disapointing to me only because I watched your speculative videos after M1 launched about how powerul M2 would be and I got carried away believing the hype.
When someone speculates about the future he or she always tries to test all possible branches. Apple does that too, but then they sit down and prune that down to fit the product they are planing to make for that year. They never ever "do it all".
With the delay in the 3nm TSMC architecture this was inevitable so hard to blame Apple if the tech is delayed. It is a pretty solid update, better than most Intel upgrades over the last 10 years!
It’s an upgrade M1. The price increase is not justified
m2 is a nice m1
The percentage difference from 16 million to 20 million is 25 percent, the M2 is NOT 25 percent bigger in size than M1 so your wrong about the density, M2’s 5nm is alot denser than M1’s 5nm, 25 percent denser to be exact.
i want a $999 macbook air