I remember being in a popular public world and 2 naked femboys started dancing in front of me and saying "I kNoW yOu LiKe ThIs" in a typical anime girl voice. I told them I was a minor, they continued. They followed me around. What the fuck have I witnessed?
i have roughly 4100 hours and i 100% agree with you i spend most of my time in private worlds now and sometimes ill join a public lobby just for fun...
as a girl who started playing vrchat at the age of 14, there were an unacceptable amount of grown adults who tried to talk to me, and were overall very weird to me, all while knowing my age. of course, people under 13 should not be playing. and honestly, as an adult now (18), i think the minimum age should be raised from 13 because it can really be an unsafe environment for younger people…
As a male that likes to use my voice for a lot of my jokes doing accents female voices the capsid nerd voice etc people have took me to be a actually female I’m 15 and even after I tell them they still try to go after me ignoring me after saying I’m a guy is the funny part seeing there expression change it is golden
@@_exolite yes i agree, and it makes me sad honestly when i see young kids on discord and vrchat and other social media and things. i wish i could tell them to stop, go find something else to do, but i know that won’t work
@@_exolite Hearing yall talk about this crap makes me glad I grew up in the 90s/early 2000s where the internet was basically in its infancy. I had internet since like... 97, but good lord. It may have been totally insecure platform-wise but MASSIVELY less weird crap and weird people.. just a bunch of mega nerds being mega nerds. And way less corporate friendly. I miss that.
Honestly what ruined the game for me were people taking it too seriously. This game used to be so fun until people who were too old to be playing turning it into an adult space. I can't tell you how many weird drunk people i've ran into. Or people trying to date without knowing the age of said person. It's uncomfortable.
I get the issue of what's effectively gentrification but you word that like people are suddenly no longer allowed to have fun or like something as soon as they reach X age.
Funny story. I was doing drugies with a bud on Vr Chat. a less known world like maybe 4 people were in it when this toddler joined. Now this kid being a kid probably didn't understand that he was in a whole new world, so the kid would run straight and SMACK righting into his own wall and start screaming and crying. Get up and start running again and SMACK right into a coffee table or something. Kid was also wearing a superman outfit and HOLY FUCK I never laughed so hard in my life before
(And I know its not just one, so STFU, people thinking that labelling everyone associated as bad will solve the problem rather than getting to the root of the problem from all aspects)
@Nebraska Truth Center we live in a double-standard society, sadly. "that's wrong, but I can do it with no problem." I'm sick of degenerates doing bad sh*t, and I'm sick of people attacking others just because they are "affiliated" with what the degenerates do (in the same community despite the fact they don't support it or are not involed).
the amount of people that act weird around me is the reason why i stopped putting in effort into even playing the game anymore, because it literally is the easiest place for a child to get groomed. EASIER THAN MINECRAFT, ROBLOX AND DISCORD
@@elfasto2255 Roblox and Minecraft combined? Yes, but Discord also has a large amount of groomers, pedos, etc. that rivals VRchat or probably even surpasses it.
happened to me when i was 14 till around my 16th birthday. Parents had literally no idea because there was no way for them to know, no way to report the person because there's almost zero evidence of it and in the end they got away with not only doing it to me but to other 14-16 year old girls because consequences basically don't exist in vrc. Being harassed for months (got put on a KOS) after coming out about my experience, no way to stop him and the "you could've just taken the headset off" comments drove me away from the VR community entirely. Shit like this leaves me questioning if VRC should even exist in the first place.
@@yuyunakaaaaa__03 and expieriences like that are why i have a personal grudge against all the communities in this game that i have expierienced doing this crap to others and me
It’s really sad the state of public VRChat. There’s many great experiences that can be found but they aren’t obvious or easy to find since all the top worlds are bars and “cuddle” worlds.
Right! I just wanna play some fun games with other people and not just hang out and chat. Although it can be fun to socialize, I'd prefer to socialize while playing a fun and well made game.
anyone below 16 just shouldnt be playing a game like this, its worse than letting a kid play a 18+ flat screen game because its in vr and social aspect has way more dimensions to it
I actually played VRchat the other day with my friend and wow the amount of 9 year old gangsters along with busty furries and anime girls in the same area is astounding (Edit) Played it again, met some really awesome people. But there was someone with a fem-fnaf avatar just sitting alone infront of a mirror in a corner of the map for god knows how long, tf?
I remember how fun the old VRChat was. Some couple of years ago, after finding myself an Oculus Rift and then seeing some of the first few "VRChat in a nutshell" videos by Jameskii, I felt inspired to go onto the platform myself. When I got on, even though I was way younger than the minimum join age (10-11 i think?, 15 now), I remember messing around, being quiet for a bit and then going down a deep dive into the VRChat community, but not ever really letting go the silliness and fun of old VRChat. And, as the years rolled by, I've felt like I've been lagging behind the others, feeling like I'm stuck back in 2017 [or '18] (thinking of it now that's a really, really great thing). And so, as I come to find this video and your channel, this just reminds me as to how shitty of a place VRChat has become over the years. Hell, even when I first joined I didn't have to block avatars or crank my safety settings up the ass just to play on the platform for a little while. Back then, people were having fun, making avatars that were more optimized than the ones pumped out today, and the platform wasn't even a business; it was a place to fuck around and actually socialize with people. But now, things have drastically changed and there are so many serious problems its hard for me to wrap my head around them. One time, when i went into one of the publicly known furry servers to interview them about what they thought about something like a news story that happened recently at the time or whatever, I cant remember, but as soon as I set foot into that wasteland people were talking about their ZOOPHILLIA, openly. As well as there being minors around and shit like that but since then it hasn't been any better. One time I joined a public server i heard something from spawn coming from my right. Come to find out that two people were having e-sex in a bathroom, full tilt, leg trackers and shit like that with total disregard for everyone else. Its so fucked, man. But that isn't the worst. This story is the most recent and it passes on as the worst offender yet: I was bored and I had nothing to do since most servers were filled with suggestive anime people staring at themselves all day so I decided that I was gonna go shoot the shit in a McDonald's server. I join in, standard stuff, kids around but I'm like whatever, but whenever I cross into the McDonald's, I come across something that I would have never expected. When I cross through those golden gates I find someone with an avatar but not just any avatar, it is an image of straight-up child pornography, on full display, for all the little kiddies and whomever to behold. This was only a couple of months ago, and I worry for what I might see if I go on again. I don't know if you have watched it yet, but this youtuber named Brandon FM has created some amazing videos surrounding VRChat around some of the problems the platform faces, and I really, really recommend it; He even did a video on Sappho. I'm done talking my head off about these VRC stories, have a good one. (By the way, sorry if sentence spacing isn't good or whatever, but it should break up the key points somewhat alright) Edit: Forgot to say that I'm a big fan of your content Jax :)))))
@@modtrashfire5518glad I’m not the only one who thinks that, shame a bunch of adults who have a stroke when they hear a kid act like a dick until the kid leaves
I met a 8 year old trans furry who didnt know what being trans was or a the connotatikns of being a furru, it was an mirror world with inappropriate avatars but it was filled with chill lads and we spent a fakr bit to convince the child not to play, the kid justified it saying i know gore when we brought up 18+ avatars i do believe we were successful though and he did reconsider it atleast.
@@J09-555 Sounds like it's more than likely just weird attempts at ironic humour. It's the kind of thing I'd more than likely see in Team Fortress 2 just because that community is full of weirdos.
Speaking as someone who is an 18+ artist and vrchat user, I don't want kids on the platform due to the nature of the platform being potentially harmful as well as just not enjoying them screeching in my ear as I'm trying to play vrchat court drama; it could just be me being an adult that just rather be doing my own thing and chilling with adults as an anime guy. However there are some points you made good if not great points about some god awful people and actions happening on there.
And if I see another comment from you, I will report for harassment HankLikesTypewriters. I've been trying to be nice and respectful but I have had enough.
What you said about the streamers being boring is so accurate. I’ve talked to my friends about how people will put on an avatar, sit and talk for a few hours, and get hundreds of subscribers. The only streamer that I’ve ever seen that had actual entertainment is CyberChimp. Other than people like him there’s no way I’m watching a vr chat streamer
I think Neos is a great alternative, not many talk about that platform since it's still pretty unknown and can be a bit hard to get into (bad UI/UX design and dev tools built directly into the game instead of using unity or etc) but people are creating crazy stuff in there, like a world that lets you explore the universe or apparently even a working mobile phone x3
I started playing in 2019, back then it wasnt so sexualized and really easy to make new friends. I had to take a one year break in 2021 becuase there was so much drama that surrounds most of the players. I went back recently and its like a whole new game so hard to talk to people. Also side note vrc has always had a problem with pedos even in 2019 and im sure its gotten worse... be safe if you're playing
The whole world has a problem with pedos. I'm sure there are predators in these online games, including VR games, but let's be clear: this is nothing, not even a drop in the ocean compared to what is going on in the real world. Makes me want to puke.
I disagree with the kids. I don't understand how kids creaming is funny or being little goblins is entertaining. Most cases they're little brats that doesn't respect other players even in their own age group. Rarely there will be a kid who's super calm and doesn't want to annoy everyone. THOSE kids are welcoming. But this isn't a bad take overall. I don't think VRChat as a game bad but the bad actors is definitely noticeable within the playerbase. VRChat is boring for players looking for fun minigame types. BUT it is nice social experience with the right people of course. Glad you mention Tower Unite. It's definitely a better game if you want to actually DO something. I still play it this very day. Big thanks to my Left 4 Dead pal for gifting me it years ago. I say the price is a great road block to prevent most of the bad children out along with other players who's looking for trouble. Which I don't think that's the dev's plan. lol And because Steam Workshop exists, people can't try to upload NSFW crap without getting banned outright. There IS nsfw condos though, but that's only when the player host it.
It's unfortunate what's happening, I remember spending a lot of time with some popular avatar creators who made great original stuff, but the terminally online types who were jealous of their "vrchat celebrity status" stirred up a lot of drama. Driving many of the creators to delete their accounts or just quit the game over the past year. A bunch of the avatar worlds being put out there now are just copy paste garbage. Too many people take this game too seriously and it's gutting it. Using mods used to balance these things out. A lot of people used them to be annoying or to troll but I miss being able to send the 40 year-old e-daddy flexing his underage discord kittens to the shadow realm.
I wish this video would concentrate more on theorizing or defining why the VRChat core community has been on a seemingly continual downward spiral and not devolve into either generalizing a specific part of the community or cherry-picking a list of specific streamers or horror story weirdos. For example, I feel that a majority of VRChat streamers are uncreative and boring, and by generalizing it to a very specific niche, you're painting a target on that generalized group, whether it's furries or "foreign" streamers who might not have the same views of the contextualization of content that is produced. It just so happens that, because of the nature of VRChat, furry or oversexualized avatars are popular. I think that this can be further applied to the NSFW aspects of it. The core community of VRChat is at an age where experimentation and interest in NSFW things simply exist. VRChat just gives people a platform to explore those avenues, but the fact remains: a good number of people are just pervs. Likewise, you don't need to witch hunt specific examples of weirdos. With a large enough sample size, you're going to find weird or criminal people within it. I'm not defending them or condoning any of their actions in the least, but bad stories of questionable nature could be found in any aspect of a community. There's no need to devote an entire section of the video to name-dropping specific examples. Instead, I wish you concentrated on WHY VRChat gives such people opportunities they would not normally have to perform those degenerate actions, and the EFFECT these kinds of stories had on the community as a whole. All-in-all though, this is a great video that summarizes a growing problem in the VRChat community, especially three points: the splintering of the community into smaller and exclusive niches that become increasingly difficult to find or "get into," the homogeneous content that leads newcomers to believe representations of said content are an actual representation of what goes on in the game itself, and the conflict between those newcomers and the closed-circuit societal behaviors present. Those are all very big points that a lot of people in the VRChat community have noticed and worry about, since there doesn't seem to be a very easy fix to change the trend. This is especially true with features are pushed and implemented by the VRChat devs, like the Groups system, which further incentivizes people to splinter off into their own small niches. The information provided is incredibly well-summarized, and it was a true joy to find it as the highest suggested VRChat video on UA-cam instead of just another meme video with the same burned-out voice changer joke that's been done for five years now. Just as a side note, your math is also probably incorrect. 24,000 concurrent users is just a snapshot of how many users are playing at that moment, not how many people play VRChat as a whole. Meanwhile, 45,000 people are how many are in the Reddit community as a whole. The NSFW portion of the community is certainly a significant portion of the population, but does not make up nearly an overwhelming percentage of the population as stated.
Exactly. If ya have a large enough margin, ya get yourself some evil. The larger the diversity, the easier it is for "Impurities" to crop up if you know what I'm saying. That's just how people work, that's just how it goes.
In short people forgot to escape reality to have fun. But instead, brought their flaws & real world personalities and effected others around them. I was a quest user. My thing was being the quiet guy that would dance anywhere & by any group. Sometimes without talking I’d end up bringing dead lobbies to life and almost have everyone dancing/vibing. (being an actual dancer). I only talked if someone was extremely animated & we started acting out similar to characters in a cartoon. Anything else was…too serious or perverted. But I’m very glad I got to experience VR chat non the less.
during peak quarantine, i was introduced to vrchat and it was absolutely terrifying. never in my years of playing online games, had i ever witnessed something so deranged. the players are completely detached from reality, there is little to no moderation, and the game as a whole is a joke. it also didn’t help that people transitioned from the game over to discord,creating even more issues. servers were engulfed in explicit content, misogyny, racism, and bigotry. regardless of one’s age, users took complete advantage of each other. no form of words could thoroughly describe how disgusting and sick this game is.
Iv been playing for 2 years now. Honestly watch movies. Like making new friends irl and on vr chat. But honestly sometimes i get burnt out and it annoys the hell out of me. Trying to talk to someone is next to impossible because most people on vr are introverted. And it confuses me a bit considering. Honestly i love the chaos of it all. Honestly im currently been taking a break for a month. Dealing with work and shit
@@evatroniclover0026being human does not equal being evil and bad, thats not nature, id, or impulse, you need to have a moral compass, if you act like this ur no different from an uncontrolled animal, you as a human have the ability to be good and not be evil, being evil and bad is NOT NATURE, its bad.
@@evatroniclover0026you are detatched from reality and u seem to be living in ur own bubble of urs, stop living in ur own bubble and live in reality, i have seen many losers like u pass off evil actions as "nature", nature is not evil
I was in VRC Omegle one time and there was this kid who was Literally 6-7 Years old. Maybe even younger. IM not kidding This child literally said his age! and it was not in the double digits. for the one millionth Fucking time! VRCHAT IS NOT A DAYCARE FOR C H I L D R E N!!!!!
I wouldn't really blame the kid if they're that young. I figure much of the blame would fall on their parents/caregivers for just letting someone that young onto uncontrolled internet spaces in the first place.
While playing devils advocate on the side of some of the veterans. vrchat is always a social platform but not always a game which I can see why newer people would be confused nowadays with that info. Framing the video from the pov of it being a game kinda takes away from what made the game successful and takes the nuance away from why veteran players act they way we do sometimes. I was a young kid starting vrchat in 2017 and now am going to college so the context I mean is We didn't grow up with it as a game but really as a social so with the way the platform has changed over time many of the older players get bored, dislike the direction/toxicity, or become nilistic as the second life they've enjoyed for the growing years of their life isn't the same anymore and at what point should they move on.
Id rather vrc just make a seperate server for kids. Telling us to deal with it is just like saying we should be their babysitters which is not the reason why i get on this game
I've been playing before the knuckles invasion. I miss the 2018/2019 vrc more than ever and I can feel my mental state slipping because this game is degenerating to where my current friend group is a big part of the hyper sexualization problem this game has. I'm tired boss.
Another alternative I see coming up in the future is S&Box. Its a spiritual successor to GMod made by the same devs, and itll have VR support. It runs on the same engine as Half-Life: Alyx (Source 2) and will basically be GMOD, but with a wider variety of games that can be created on it. Its more of a game development platform than it is a game in of itself. Honestly if a social VR gamemode is made in it, I could genuinely see it being a major competitor to VRC, with how much more modable and open ended itll be.
I have met so many worlds with kids and some of them were being encouraged to be using so many slurs and some iffy opinions , parents should really keep an eye on em
I've played this game since 2019, played in my crappy laptop and crashed a lot. Got a headset in 2021 and have played ever since. It was fun in 2019, joked around and had fun. When I got my headset and started playing a lot more, i noticed that a ton of unsupervised children in it and they're annoying as hell. Honestly, I've made some good friends on there but they're like diamonds in the rough. TL:DR: Full of dumbasses and annoying little 4 year olds, some diamonds in the rough but it's mostly just average guys.
See ik i may sound like a kid MYSELF but being a teenagerwith a somewhat high voice some kids DID somewhat ruin it for us better people, I wanna screw around as diffrent characters, and just play games. Not all "younger age" people are here to ruin the game and for people like me who want to have fun like EVERYONE ELSE who dont annoy people with little squeaker voice unlike me, they are annoying as he said, but for peope like me who have a somewhat high voice that just may have not changed yet just get called a "kid" cause the squeakers, but the VrChat community is a bit screwed up beyond the long ahh Squeaker line i just wrote, the community is trashed by people who ruin the game entirley because they take the game WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. Id keep rambling like I always do but I dont wanna fill this comment section soooo Ill do it somewhere else.
As a child im prob a child, I wouldn't scream into my mic, that's prob a 5yo, I have seen blood gore when I was very little and more. I would say VRChat is a serious community, but it's not like a job or something, it's just a game. I know the community just want to chill, but once the community starts falling apart and there no more players left. There is no fun. So please just act nice, I have a lil nephew punching me, I act nice since he is a kid, we all act like that when we are little. Just be nice. Thanks -IDontPostDaily
I would not call it in shambles. The VRC community had its various areas that while some should remain fully separated they all have their meeting points and some of those meeting points shouldn't exist. Every community has its own problems and since VRC is the primary way of social VR it gets a ton of attention focused at its negative portions since people loooove looking at the bad things over good things Plenty of us do our best to keep the younger players out of the areas they should not be in but its not like we will stop every single case of that from happening, and I'm just saying that as one example. I feel the video is basically just ignoring the good parts of the VRC community just to make it look bad by showcasing all of the bad.
Yeah honestly you're right, I had a few fun times in vrchat but that don't mean everything is bad, this video is stretching things for entertainment also there's always a bit of toxic players no matter what games we play but that is why the block button was invented lol xD
@@evatroniclover0026well let me tell u ur views are delluded based on nothing but lies, go to a therapist and get a reality checkn Being evil IS NOT NATURE, nature is good
As a long time VRChat player of almost 6 years now that has been active intensely inside of the community and has build his own community off of this game, I agree with pretty much everything said in this video and I absolutely love the shade thrown to some of the communities in vrchat by you. It's saddening how far the game has fallen and how different it is now from when I used to play actively with the friends I've made through that game. I've joined the game at the age of 17 in 2017 because of a popular streamer back in the days who I loved to watch (Drekwiz). I've since met many friends on the game and even flew out to the US in 2019 to meet up with some of them (I'm from europe). That week has honestly been the most fun of my life and I am still friends with that entire group. My biggest interest in the game has always been the Avatars and that you were able to create your favorite characters for the game. I've been making avatars since 2018, tons of them public and have, with the help of those avatars and the worlds I've build for them, since created a fairly large discord server with a comparably small but very fun to be around community. I am still active in my own community and I am still actively making avatars, although mostly for a Patreon nowadays. But I have almost entirely stopped playing the game and stopped being involved anywhere outside my own community. I share many of the same opinions about VRChat as you do, with the borderline nsfw and boring streamers, the massive and honestly just cringe nsfw community, the lewd avatars, and people taking themself far too seriously. The "Quest kiddies" is another story. While I also very much dislike them its for other reasons that are not mentioned in this video. If you are ever feeling to making a followup to this video I would be happy to offer myself to give some input as someone who has been actively involved for almost 6 years. Ps. Also just found ur channel through the "Twitter Philes pt.2" video, great work on that as well.
As a 14-year-old on VRChat. I have seen weird stuff in game before like one time when I saw a vore avatar when I was playing a fnaf related game. and I just blocked the user no questions asked. so, I want to say keep all NSFW stuff in private servers or game designed for 18+ people and have better moderation on those games. and if you see an inappropriate avatar on VRChat, an annoying kid you don't like, or a troll. Block, mute, or hide them in game. but anyone under the age of 13 should not play the game and they should add an age rating system in the game for worlds. also I have met some really young people on the game, like one time when I was recruiting people for a star wars RP group I saw a user who was 5 years old that made me think, he's got really shit parents. last thing but in the star wars RP group we had a war with another battalion in the fashion of "this is supposed to be fun" but eventually we one then later on our discord server they join and doxxed threaten to doxx the commander even sending him his IP in text through DMs. but anyway, VRChat has just declined in quality now And I want the devs to improve it.
It's sad to see so many people having a poor experience in VRchat. Some people just would like to come home after work or school and relax. What relaxing is to them is different for everyone. I see gatekeeping from all age groups and it's really sad. Adults and kids alike should be able to enjoy a good social platform tailored just for them! Sometimes older age groups just want to sit down and talk about their experiences in a sonic the hedge hog avatar. Younger groups are still making their own experiences, so it makes sense that its boring to sit around talking about or do old people things! People older than you will discount your experiences because you're still young. Younger people will force you out of your own spaces because you're too old and need to become some cog in a machine. Instead of trying to kick each other off of a platform, we should be discussing how to give everyone an appropriate space to be themselves safely. Even if that means providing a new and safe platform!
Your point on kids in VRC is kinda uninformed. Most people from my experience and my own personal opinion don't like kids in VR when they are in designated adult spaces. If I wanna go to a drinking world and socialize with adults and talk about adult things and wear skimpy avis I shouldn't have to moderate myself because 10 year old timmy's parents are irresponsible and letting him wander into spaces where he shouldn't be. I have to stop what I am doing to try and get the kid to leave on their own or get a vote kick started which usually doesn't even work. I could just block them but the more responsible thing to do is to get them to leave because it isn't safe for them nor do they belong in the area socially speaking. The most ideal thing (on the dev side) is to have VRC implement a certified 18+ tag that you can put on avis, worlds, and instances so that we can reasonably separate the adult playerbase from the younger playerbase and generally avoid situations like Sappho from repeating more easily. Or at the very least have the devs make a PSA to parents about the dangers of VRC.
Only thing I'll disagree with is that the majority of players hiding in limited worlds *friends+ ect.* we're doing that even before the quest was even released. This started because of trolls. The quest kids just made it worse. It sucks because it makes it even harder for normal people to try to get into the game without knowing anybody.
I was playing battle discs one day, and there was a drunk guy just singing his drunk heart out. It was hilarious. He has an avatar that was moving, in a static sitting position. So frickin hilarious. As far as the dislike for kids, I have seen votes to kick them out. At least it keeps them away from the predators. Their parents should not let them on VRChat.
All my friends just want to go to hangout worlds and just sit. When I want to talk to people, they just stick to talking to their friends. This is why I just play VRchat alone or with one good friend in private worlds because everyone I have met in my four years of playing it just want to stare at the mirror, focus on the popular person in the lobby with a flashy or seductive avatar or cuddle strangers which some are really creepy. Regardless of any fandom within it whether it be furry, anime or whatever I've had the same experiences. It's really exhausting and makes me want to go crazy.
Hi, vrchat player here. Played since..what? July 2019? Whenever vrchat rolled out on quest 1. All it is now is sex,furries,weird mirror dwelling degenerates, and people who claim they have mental illness and so and so, i wish that vrchat would heal. And i wish that FNIA and other sexually charged fandoms would keep their damn buisness private. People wonder why im antisocial, this is why. I dont want to talk to these people.
vrc is a cesspool. i started playing the game at 15. when i was around that age, someone (presumably an adult) came up to me in a Friday Night Funkin' world and faked an "autistic" sounding voice to get me to go out with him... When I politely said no, he screamed at me, dropping the accent and calling me ableist, telling me that he was making a youtube video about it... this shit is so crazy
super interesting and well made video, i remember the few times i played vrchat with a couple buddies my favorite thing to do was walk up to people with suggestive furry/anime avatars and just saying to them "what the fuck are you?" and for some reason, they always felt the need to endlessly justify their avatar choice when all i would do is walk away. fun stuff.
Yknow as a 13 year old (only 3 months in) I’ve somehow been mistaken for a girl, I literally don’t know how, it’s not a deep voice but it’s not a feminine one aswell. But they always call me a little kid after I tell them I’m not a girl than I have to explain to them I’m 13 and it’s just annoying
The internet has ALWAYS been an unsafe place. I’m glad more young people are waking up to this fact. If any of you ever have kids, I urge you to monitor their internet access. The internet is a powerful tool, yet can be very dangerous.
I feel like vrchat focuses too much on looks instead of personality, no one would talk to me because "my avatar looks too basic" also the toxic people really ruin the game, seriously i had a more fun experience playing secondlife and i had a simple avatar for a few years, now have a anime avatar in sl and everyone loves to talk to me no matter what i look like lol xD
Man just said that there's not enough systems in place to stop kids joining adult only areas, then proceeded to complain that those adult players are giving out about having to deal with kids in their areas because "there's plenty of tools to let you avoid them"
As someone who’s a minor and plays vrchat, I really feel uncomfortable with how many suggestive avatars there are. Don’t get me wrong, if someone feels more comfortable with an avatar like that, good for them! I do have an avatar that literally is a swimsuit which I feel comfortable using sometimes but the most covered up avatars I have personally found have either been bagged or still have some proactive stuff in it.
I think its normal to be uncomfortable when, while hanging out with your 18+ friends, a child shows up. I wouldn't want to deal with a kid in a bar, and i dont like to deal with them when I'm just trying to socialise with overseas friends. We pretty much instantly block and mute them. I think this is probably the healthiest thing to do. Its tough, but probably for the best that they try to mix with players their own age.
as a veteran vrchat player all i can say is this game is now full of people with funky avatars, either guys with full on their woman of their dreams avatar or what not or full on transgender avatars with ACTUAL GENITALS and i'm sick of this
I don't mind kids that scream and say stupid shit but it's when they start saying slurs over and over again that gets annoying to listen to. Of course I block them but what's annoying is knowing that every time I go into a public, I'm likely gonna run into another kid saying the hard r or something ignorant about gay people. I just hate the fact this is something you have to deal with when being in a public world nowadays
i thought id say since you called vrchat a game but i would call vrchat more of a social platform its much more like an alternative reality than just a game i heard someone say before ""vrchat is like a mall would you put your kid in a mall un supervised?"" or something like that... but i would personally call vrchat something along the lines of the wild west.. its a place that is pretty much entirely judged buy moral rights and wrongs and majority rules honestly i think kids should stay in vrchat because they can be really entertaining sometimes but really i think they should have at least one trustworthy adult to stay by them... the problem is most parents are bad parents and think that vrchat is just some day care they can dump their child in alone for a few hours and expect the few functional adults in vrchat to take care of their child for free.... (roblox has a very similar problem) so really i would say the kids aren't the problem and neither is vrchat its parents and disgusting child predators who are at fault (also most of us love vrchat for the amount of freedom it gives so stricter moderation isnt really an option.. i can imagine how much the devs are struggling over this) really nice video btw
I was groomed by a moderator of another popular VR Game "Rec Room" from when I was 13. I didn't realise what was going on til I found out he had been doing it to multiple other minors in the same discord server. He used his authority within the community to initiate conversations which quite quickly became sexual. Afterwards, I quickly cut contact with him and told him that if he continues, then I'd leak his address(we both shared addresses so we could send each other shit, which was absolutely stupid on both parts) Obviously. He continued. So me and and another victim reached out to many other victims to gather evidence against him (we got quite a lot) and sent it to a few Staff members He was never Banned or even demoted by staff officially. He himself completely deleted all 17 thousand DMs we had on discord and switched accounts and vanished Recently I found out he has now moved onto VrChat, and has used a bit of the money we earnt on Rec Room together (it has UGC featured like roblox) to purchase full body tracking for a 16 year old so they can...well. You can guess. I have his Name, his address, his parents full names (bought his house documents to find that one out) and where he works (hes a karate instructor for kids) Just thought I'd share, I keep thinking about it and it's pretty traumatic to say the least. Might be worth looking into as this isn't the first time something has happened on Rec Room
@@niceman2665 I'm also scared that Staff will remove my partnered creator perms if I made it into a big thing. People like to joke about it on the discord with subtle hints but thats about as far as it goes. Staff know about him and many others but refuse to do anything about it due to a "no witchunting" rule and that they cant do anything that happens outside the game (even though they used to erp in game) which I think is crazy. So much for being COPPA Safe lmao. The entire game as a whole is a joke. Only reason I'm still playing is because I stuck to being a creator and now earn a solid income from the game so quitting would be like throwing cash down the drain I wish Online predators could actually be caught, it's disgusting
@@niceman2665 someone just brought it up in the discord lol. People are definitely talking about it. But it's not really seriously and besides, he's already quit Rec room and moved onto Vrchat now
@@niceman2665 over a year ago now. We never really shared it much since RR would just try to censor it anyways. At least the prominent members of the discord know If anyone made a video on it they'd probably be perma banned for defamation or something
I have nearly 1000 hours in vrc combined on all my accounts and I dont think kids should play vrc because of the stuff that happens in vrc. There are multiple crashing/hacking groups that WILL pick on little kids, the suggestive content that you can just come across that kids can and will get a hold of (I saw a 10 yr old kid running around in the black cat once in an avatar designed to ERP) etc.
Yesterday my friend friend told me about a disgusting Traumatic event he with his furry "friends" he literally almost vomited because of how disgusting that avatars they used were. Personally I don't have vr and never wanted to enter the territory of vrchat. I feel bad for my friend this community has been turned from a social chatting game to a WARZONE FULL OF MINES. NSFW is definitely the worst part of any community. I am trying to support the younger generations so they won't turn up to be like these people
Even though I’ve haven’t done vrchat publicly much there’s just some weird shit that goes on you either have people spamming screaming into the mic with weird avatars or chill people no inbetween. Nice pfp btw.
My favorite thing is watching my boyfriend be confused by what the kids around us in the games are doing while I laugh. Kids are unashamed and very chaotic, they know how to have fun and I feel a lot of people have become disconnected with the concept that kids aren't horrible and that we all used to be kids at one point. Personally I think parents should be monitoring their kids when they're playing vr games on the quest more often, but they don't, and they're left in dangerous situations and left to the whims of the internet and vrchat. It's unfortunate.
I only disagree with your point on the adults annoyed by children on vrchat. Your point seems to be children screaming equals funny but I just don't. Children make me uncomfortable for the most part.
While I think VRchat devs should separate adult players and under 18+ players for sure, this is making it out to be the adult players' fault and reaks of puritanism. Let the adults enjoy the fucking game and make the game safer. Why on earth the devs haven't made two separate sections yet is astounding. I'm tired of adults being scapegoated for all of society's ills.
kinda to expect from a game with this much freedom, the game is still countless hours of fun with friends imo but you definitely have to be careful in public worlds, then again, if you wanna make friends you have to take the risk
@10:03 I disagree that that is the reason people started to get into private rooms en masse. It was because people started to crash others games en masse. They were also stealing other peoples avatars. Those people payed money to get that unique look. It is not a good feeling to have someone take it without permission.
strange take on introduction to vrchat video. I've personally been playing vrchat for 3yrs at this point yes it has some bad moments, yes you get people spending year in front of mirrors yes it's got a kid problem, but the few times I go to public lobbies to hangout or play games its been fine and fun. People just need to find what they love in vrchat you could play music, sing, do Rp, do 18+ Rp, do hangout parties, drink, play games, explore the cosmos, or become a world creator.
generally the children of vrchat fall into 2 or 3 categories the generally chill but just happens to be younger group or the group that has a higher pitched voice because puberty screwed them over then you have the essentially phone/ipad kids who their parents only bought them the headset to get them to stop bothering the parents who do not monitor or in most cases actually care what their child does (causes these children to behave like the worst people in existence going around yelling slurs and cursing and acting incredibly entitled) then you have the children who have the mentality of "Im old enough to know whats going on" and then go around hunting for the most nsfw content in the game In a lot of cases the child is literally just someone that their parents bought them a headset and then the parents expecting you the random unknown vrchat player to babysit for them
I love this game. And i know the fact that it has full freedom and random fun capabilities, that it'll continue to be loved, or utilized in the future. For now, the world is taking things too seriously for anything to really be fun online right now. We just have to wait and hope for a better time.
I will always love VRC for just casually killing a screaming Kid in among Us and then just Default dancing on the body while listening to Ai Goku singing Cubid gay parody and having everyone else start dancing makes the game 100% worth it
I have been playing VRChat for 2 to 3 years and almost 3,000+ Hours and a lot you say in this video is true, I would also be down to tell you my whole experience!
I genuinely don’t understand how some people get so annoyed at literal children, sure they’re annoying sometimes but that’s just how kids are. Instead of whining about it go block/mute them
I've been playing the game since early 2018 and yeah, lots of weird and sketchy stuff goes on in the game compared to back then. Wouldn't be surprised if it gets banned on Twitch like Second Life one day. There's still some good stuff in the game, but it's more difficult to find them.
i started playing this game at like 16 and while i did stumble across some nsfw stuff on occasion,There werent so many predators and groomers and all that then, while playing daily all night after school and all weekend consistently within 2018 and 2019 I had only met 1 groomer and 1 kid that kept trying to find adults to erp with. but now i find both these types of people WEEKLY which is most likely a side effect of the quest since a lot of parents got it for their kids. And content creators shifted their focus to one of two things, making erp avatars or making bedroom worlds. Im just going to be glad i got to make some awesome memories in VRChat before it all went downhill.
@@xxxod the game is safer now, no more people flying around and cheating/ crashing game worlds or despawning items and all the qol client stuff was added to the game proper. Objective improvement and community has always been full of weirdos, if anything people on now are more normal than back then
There was an instance where a guy from a discord community I'd been in for years was a literal groomer. And he did some SUUUUUPER weird shit with one of the girls in VR Chat, bro was 19 or 20 at the time and she was like 15-16. The guy wasn't reprimanded much aside from being made fun of for the weird situation, and partly because the girl was doing weird shit too and partly starting it, leading to both parties being equally made fun of. He finally did get banned and everything relating to him got completely WIPED, as months later he actually DID groom a different 15/16 year old girl.. The server owner actually felt really bad about this due to how obvious the signs were due to various sus incidents made by the guy who turned out to be a groomer.
The world section made me realize that SOMEHOW furry lobbies are more tame than normie ones. I don’t think I’ve ever gone to a furry lobby and seen people either making out or smacking each other’s ass. On a more serious note, grooming is a real, serious problem, especially in vrchat where most people won’t get hurt for their degeneracy. I’ve personally ran into one, and even though I ended up blocking them before things got to bad, I know not everyone is that lucky.
Roblox is honestly so bad when it comes to the ERP side of the community. It's legit spreading everywhere and at this point its becoming just like VRChat where a ton of the community knows about this side, after the pandemic it truly blew up thanks to Meepcity and many other smaller factors that lead to Roblox today: A game with a huge ERP side that you can find just by looking up Snowbunny or Blackbull.
Some of the points in this video are fine but a lot of it is misguided and some of it seems outright disingenuous. The focus on the negativity seems to be done with the intent to devalue rhe positives of the platform. Anybody that makes an account and plays the game for a few days will easily see that. Most people just want to hangout and talk, dance, watch movies, ect. 20k players is a thriving user base that a ton of games would be super lucky to hit such a population.
I've played the game in little spurts over the past 5 years and I know plenty of people who have played it and only a few speak about it with enthusiasm, most walk away from it talking about its weird community, clunky gameplay, and poor performance. I've ran into chill people, but it's rarer nowadays, as most of the time I see mirror gremlins and children dominating the platform. Most furries, rightfully so in many cases, also don't really want anything to do with you unless you're a furry as well, and despite their issues they're one of the more cohesive and fun communities to be around in this game
What pointa are inaccurate exactly? All he said in the vid about vrc are painfully accurate tbh. Hes not focusing on the negative but he talks about what vrc was and how it has fallen from grace and hes accurate tbf. The worlds are not as they were in 2018 and theres less focus on fun and too many people who take the game wayyy to seriously. Only thing he forgot to touch on were client users and they dont help the case of vrc being as inviting and fun as it once was.
There is a reason vrchat is not for kids and any parents who are watching this and ingoring the concerns and still gonna buy them one Dont! My Little sibling Use to play vrchat with Me and please dont tell come after me saying "YOU LET HER ON KNOWING ITS 13+ i was a stupid 13 year old i didint know that She would be under age for vrchat Because Literally Many Men Came over either saying "wanna fuck?' To " wanna date your cute" Most of them didint give a fuck she was 9 at the time Trust me some players tried To tell Her But My parents would just say just get off it Yet They tell her PLAY IT I SPENT 800$ ON IT So Other Parents do your research before trying to get them a vr There are Pedophiles and groomers on there I met alot when i was 13! Dont even get me started at People telling Children how to tie a fucking noose and kill themselves
I usually sit in this one world where it lets you draw and that world is like a comfort world to me somehow, I usually meet a couple of people and always end up talking to and with them for a couple of hours. Such as this one time, a girl and her friend, both were young and sounded somewhere near 10-13, I talked with them both, both seemed equally hyper and one took one of the marker's and started to just run around the world, I didn't mind it as it didn't bother me. I can see how SOME kids can be. Very immature and stuff, but some other kids can be very fun to hang out with. Imo, kids should be able to know how to avoid those things, parents also need to know how to avoid those things as well.
I think one really big problem that you kinda brought up but not by much is a lot of kids get on to be sexual normal around the ages 14-17. They will have there age in there bio then go around and offer lap dances and other nasty stuff. There is also those same age kids lying about there ages saying there 18+ and that's even worse because it can get people who are not trying to interact with underage people unknowingly interacting with them. A lot of the party groups I'm in started needing to see a form of id to even be allowed to join by using id apps or some other methods. That's another reason people don't want kids on vrc.
I got back into this game after I stoped playing due to a toxic situation, I can explain that if needed. But I join my old friend group, and when I tell you I was reminded within like 2 days why I stopped playing. This friend group would talk shit about people behind their back, talk crap to others ( but be able to get anything in return), cheat on their “ vrchat girlfriend”. Listen guys this game is great and good way to overcome social anxiety, but it’s not a replacement for real life and you don’t have right to put others down if you can’t talk it back or just in general. I also got kicked from a discord for, being annoying when mods of our group sever with calling me incel, changing my name to I am a dumbass, stupid ect. Never even said anything to the dude and the two “friends” I have in that discord did nothing so anther break it is
lets be real here, at this point any big game connected to many countries and has custom avatar abilities, will be saturated by furries, weirdos, or just drooling 5 year olds who burst your ear drums. The only good people of VR chat are people who 1. know what their really doing, 2. Are completely civilized 3. Not a weirdo who can't go 2 seconds without a child. Please, PLEASE, just make the game normal players. We don't need your silly activities in here.
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I remember being in a popular public world and 2 naked femboys started dancing in front of me and saying "I kNoW yOu LiKe ThIs" in a typical anime girl voice. I told them I was a minor, they continued. They followed me around. What the fuck have I witnessed?
Dear god what the fuck that's disgusting
Thats creepy as hell, so sorry for you postal dude, the one tme you didnt bring your gun or shovel
@@Yeahboii7648 like fr i have nothing against femboys but if if they are going to do THAT then its not ok
@@VulpesAlliumi whoudnt blame you for hating femboys after that tho but yeah hope it doesnt happen often
@@Yeahboii7648 i don't hate on entire communities just because of a few bad guys tho
i'm somewhat glad i grew up with offline games
I spent hours swimming around Donkey Kong 64
Same
growing up I loved New super mario bros wii and wii sports a lot
[Prototype] 2 and Dishonored
Definitely man
as someone with 3000 hours in vrchat, the community now sucks horribly andi hate most modern players
3000?
How many hours do you have on real life
i have roughly 4100 hours and i 100% agree with you i spend most of my time in private worlds now and sometimes ill join a public lobby just for fun...
i tried to play vrchat in vr few times but couldnt handle this game. How the hell you have 3k
@@taoretakitsune slow adaptation through slow brain damage
as a girl who started playing vrchat at the age of 14, there were an unacceptable amount of grown adults who tried to talk to me, and were overall very weird to me, all while knowing my age. of course, people under 13 should not be playing. and honestly, as an adult now (18), i think the minimum age should be raised from 13 because it can really be an unsafe environment for younger people…
As a male that likes to use my voice for a lot of my jokes doing accents female voices the capsid nerd voice etc people have took me to be a actually female I’m 15 and even after I tell them they still try to go after me ignoring me after saying I’m a guy is the funny part seeing there expression change it is golden
I think the same for discord to be honest. As someone who was on discord since 11, I should have waited a while. Even at 13 it was dangerous for me.
@@_exolite yes i agree, and it makes me sad honestly when i see young kids on discord and vrchat and other social media and things. i wish i could tell them to stop, go find something else to do, but i know that won’t work
Same, how vrc is doing NOW there needs to be a 20+ age limit. I feel 18-19 year olds aren’t 🥲
@@_exolite Hearing yall talk about this crap makes me glad I grew up in the 90s/early 2000s where the internet was basically in its infancy. I had internet since like... 97, but good lord. It may have been totally insecure platform-wise but MASSIVELY less weird crap and weird people.. just a bunch of mega nerds being mega nerds. And way less corporate friendly. I miss that.
Honestly what ruined the game for me were people taking it too seriously. This game used to be so fun until people who were too old to be playing turning it into an adult space. I can't tell you how many weird drunk people i've ran into. Or people trying to date without knowing the age of said person. It's uncomfortable.
its a content farm now. start recording it while you can
I get the issue of what's effectively gentrification but you word that like people are suddenly no longer allowed to have fun or like something as soon as they reach X age.
@@ArbitraryOutcome hes saying that older losers make it too nsfw for kids
@@nbshftr I think it's funny the amount of kids playing as I don't remember it ever being advertised as a game for kids, more a tech demo.
@@nbshftr Yeah, what I am referring to with "gentrification".
Funny story. I was doing drugies with a bud on Vr Chat. a less known world like maybe 4 people were in it when this toddler joined. Now this kid being a kid probably didn't understand that he was in a whole new world, so the kid would run straight and SMACK righting into his own wall and start screaming and crying. Get up and start running again and SMACK right into a coffee table or something. Kid was also wearing a superman outfit and HOLY FUCK I never laughed so hard in my life before
LMAOOO
millennial child 😭
As the old saying goes: one bad apple ruins it for everyone else.
(And I know its not just one, so STFU, people thinking that labelling everyone associated as bad will solve the problem rather than getting to the root of the problem from all aspects)
@@CaptArgo24 its not just one
I think it’s “one bad apple spoils the whole tree”
It’s like 70% of the people don’t lie
@Nebraska Truth Center we live in a double-standard society, sadly. "that's wrong, but I can do it with no problem." I'm sick of degenerates doing bad sh*t, and I'm sick of people attacking others just because they are "affiliated" with what the degenerates do (in the same community despite the fact they don't support it or are not involed).
the amount of people that act weird around me is the reason why i stopped putting in effort into even playing the game anymore, because it literally is the easiest place for a child to get groomed. EASIER THAN MINECRAFT, ROBLOX AND DISCORD
combined
@@elfasto2255 Roblox and Minecraft combined? Yes, but Discord also has a large amount of groomers, pedos, etc. that rivals VRchat or probably even surpasses it.
happened to me when i was 14 till around my 16th birthday. Parents had literally no idea because there was no way for them to know, no way to report the person because there's almost zero evidence of it and in the end they got away with not only doing it to me but to other 14-16 year old girls because consequences basically don't exist in vrc. Being harassed for months (got put on a KOS) after coming out about my experience, no way to stop him and the "you could've just taken the headset off" comments drove me away from the VR community entirely. Shit like this leaves me questioning if VRC should even exist in the first place.
@@yuyunakaaaaa__03 and expieriences like that are why i have a personal grudge against all the communities in this game that i have expierienced doing this crap to others and me
@@KonekoBarasket preach homie
It’s really sad the state of public VRChat. There’s many great experiences that can be found but they aren’t obvious or easy to find since all the top worlds are bars and “cuddle” worlds.
Right! I just wanna play some fun games with other people and not just hang out and chat. Although it can be fun to socialize, I'd prefer to socialize while playing a fun and well made game.
anyone below 16 just shouldnt be playing a game like this, its worse than letting a kid play a 18+ flat screen game because its in vr and social aspect has way more dimensions to it
It's 13+
As a 14 year old question, I second this, the shit I’ve seen man
@@IaniloveYeah, that’s the age rating. I’m not sure a 13 year old should be on VRchat.
@@gmdking I’m 13 playing this game and I have seen nsfw Avis that people was making
I actually played VRchat the other day with my friend and wow the amount of 9 year old gangsters along with busty furries and anime girls in the same area is astounding
(Edit) Played it again, met some really awesome people. But there was someone with a fem-fnaf avatar just sitting alone infront of a mirror in a corner of the map for god knows how long, tf?
It's truly chaotic.
Lol, I just tell people that it's the whole of the internet compressed into one room. You've got every type of person, good and bad.
@NebraskaTruthCenterfr, i see people arguing in comment sections every single day
I‘m there for the furries.
Also are the busty furries by any chance mostly mamagens? (The ones with the slightly chubby belly?) they are everywhere
@@MaticTheProto never seen them, but i know exactly what you're referring to
Insane that parents think others should be responsible for their own kids
Exactly if you put your 4 year old on a 13+ game with voice chat and people (including me) troll them that a you side fault
I remember how fun the old VRChat was.
Some couple of years ago, after finding myself an Oculus Rift and then seeing some of the first few "VRChat in a nutshell" videos by Jameskii, I felt inspired to go onto the platform myself. When I got on, even though I was way younger than the minimum join age (10-11 i think?, 15 now), I remember messing around, being quiet for a bit and then going down a deep dive into the VRChat community, but not ever really letting go the silliness and fun of old VRChat. And, as the years rolled by, I've felt like I've been lagging behind the others, feeling like I'm stuck back in 2017 [or '18] (thinking of it now that's a really, really great thing). And so, as I come to find this video and your channel, this just reminds me as to how shitty of a place VRChat has become over the years. Hell, even when I first joined I didn't have to block avatars or crank my safety settings up the ass just to play on the platform for a little while. Back then, people were having fun, making avatars that were more optimized than the ones pumped out today, and the platform wasn't even a business; it was a place to fuck around and actually socialize with people. But now, things have drastically changed and there are so many serious problems its hard for me to wrap my head around them.
One time, when i went into one of the publicly known furry servers to interview them about what they thought about something like a news story that happened recently at the time or whatever, I cant remember, but as soon as I set foot into that wasteland people were talking about their ZOOPHILLIA, openly. As well as there being minors around and shit like that but since then it hasn't been any better. One time I joined a public server i heard something from spawn coming from my right. Come to find out that two people were having e-sex in a bathroom, full tilt, leg trackers and shit like that with total disregard for everyone else. Its so fucked, man. But that isn't the worst. This story is the most recent and it passes on as the worst offender yet:
I was bored and I had nothing to do since most servers were filled with suggestive anime people staring at themselves all day so I decided that I was gonna go shoot the shit in a McDonald's server. I join in, standard stuff, kids around but I'm like whatever, but whenever I cross into the McDonald's, I come across something that I would have never expected. When I cross through those golden gates I find someone with an avatar but not just any avatar, it is an image of straight-up child pornography, on full display, for all the little kiddies and whomever to behold.
This was only a couple of months ago, and I worry for what I might see if I go on again. I don't know if you have watched it yet, but this youtuber named Brandon FM has created some amazing videos surrounding VRChat around some of the problems the platform faces, and I really, really recommend it; He even did a video on Sappho. I'm done talking my head off about these VRC stories, have a good one.
(By the way, sorry if sentence spacing isn't good or whatever, but it should break up the key points somewhat alright)
Edit: Forgot to say that I'm a big fan of your content Jax :)))))
The kids screaming around and making the game 10x funnier are the real ones
Nah fr tho
👍🏽
Seriously VR chat is only fun when you're playing with kids. That says everything about how creepy the community is.
@@modtrashfire5518glad I’m not the only one who thinks that, shame a bunch of adults who have a stroke when they hear a kid act like a dick until the kid leaves
I met a 8 year old trans furry who didnt know what being trans was or a the connotatikns of being a furru, it was an mirror world with inappropriate avatars but it was filled with chill lads and we spent a fakr bit to convince the child not to play, the kid justified it saying i know gore when we brought up 18+ avatars i do believe we were successful though and he did reconsider it atleast.
Where did his parents go💀
what the fuck… that’s… wow. Yeah convince them to stop playing the game entirely and tell their parents immediately.
just wait till you see jeffrey epstein island roleplays
No fucking way. Those actually exist‽
@@J09-555 Sounds like it's more than likely just weird attempts at ironic humour. It's the kind of thing I'd more than likely see in Team Fortress 2 just because that community is full of weirdos.
Speaking as someone who is an 18+ artist and vrchat user, I don't want kids on the platform due to the nature of the platform being potentially harmful as well as just not enjoying them screeching in my ear as I'm trying to play vrchat court drama; it could just be me being an adult that just rather be doing my own thing and chilling with adults as an anime guy. However there are some points you made good if not great points about some god awful people and actions happening on there.
Please, go outside.
@@Hankeshon I already do, please don't assume that I don't; thank you lots! ☺️
@@AbyssalGrey Do you go outside to watch children play in parks?
@@AbyssalGrey Or do you go outside to get to your car so you can shimmy over to McDonalds?
And if I see another comment from you, I will report for harassment HankLikesTypewriters. I've been trying to be nice and respectful but I have had enough.
What you said about the streamers being boring is so accurate. I’ve talked to my friends about how people will put on an avatar, sit and talk for a few hours, and get hundreds of subscribers. The only streamer that I’ve ever seen that had actual entertainment is CyberChimp. Other than people like him there’s no way I’m watching a vr chat streamer
most of the time its probably overly-sexualized avatars that grab the attention of lots of adults
@@jacobrice9059"adults"
@@jacobrice9059you sure it's only adults?
He was funny until he started getting into needless overdramatic tweets complaining about Lolathon and bait tweeting about leaving VRC.
i didn't even try to play vrchat at all and i don't regret anything
Same here
Same too
I think Neos is a great alternative, not many talk about that platform since it's still pretty unknown and can be a bit hard to get into (bad UI/UX design and dev tools built directly into the game instead of using unity or etc) but people are creating crazy stuff in there, like a world that lets you explore the universe or apparently even a working mobile phone x3
too many furries
I just want a game like vrchat THAT doesn't fucking call themselves a "metaverse" or bs like that for once
LOL YOUR TRIPPING. I did the Neos tutorial and ended up being surrounded by hot dogs 2 hours later
It’s interesting, I’ll stick to shooting virtual guns in H3VR with super realistic firearms
we aint gon talk about how blud cannot fuckin drive 😭😭😭
This is why I have only ever played this game on private worlds with friends that I met outside of VRC
I started playing in 2019, back then it wasnt so sexualized and really easy to make new friends. I had to take a one year break in 2021 becuase there was so much drama that surrounds most of the players. I went back recently and its like a whole new game so hard to talk to people. Also side note vrc has always had a problem with pedos even in 2019 and im sure its gotten worse... be safe if you're playing
The whole world has a problem with pedos. I'm sure there are predators in these online games, including VR games, but let's be clear: this is nothing, not even a drop in the ocean compared to what is going on in the real world. Makes me want to puke.
I can’t even play it anymore because even people around my age (25) act like middle schoolers and it’s just constant drama
I disagree with the kids. I don't understand how kids creaming is funny or being little goblins is entertaining. Most cases they're little brats that doesn't respect other players even in their own age group.
Rarely there will be a kid who's super calm and doesn't want to annoy everyone. THOSE kids are welcoming.
But this isn't a bad take overall.
I don't think VRChat as a game bad but the bad actors is definitely noticeable within the playerbase.
VRChat is boring for players looking for fun minigame types. BUT it is nice social experience with the right people of course.
Glad you mention Tower Unite.
It's definitely a better game if you want to actually DO something.
I still play it this very day. Big thanks to my Left 4 Dead pal for gifting me it years ago.
I say the price is a great road block to prevent most of the bad children out along with other players who's looking for trouble. Which I don't think that's the dev's plan. lol
And because Steam Workshop exists, people can't try to upload NSFW crap without getting banned outright. There IS nsfw condos though, but that's only when the player host it.
Woah bro, he never said kids creaming was funny. You should really get your head out the gutter.
Kids creaming!?!?
It's unfortunate what's happening, I remember spending a lot of time with some popular avatar creators who made great original stuff, but the terminally online types who were jealous of their "vrchat celebrity status" stirred up a lot of drama. Driving many of the creators to delete their accounts or just quit the game over the past year. A bunch of the avatar worlds being put out there now are just copy paste garbage. Too many people take this game too seriously and it's gutting it. Using mods used to balance these things out. A lot of people used them to be annoying or to troll but I miss being able to send the 40 year-old e-daddy flexing his underage discord kittens to the shadow realm.
I played VR Chat a couple times, and I saw how they wanted nothing to do with teaching new players.
I wish this video would concentrate more on theorizing or defining why the VRChat core community has been on a seemingly continual downward spiral and not devolve into either generalizing a specific part of the community or cherry-picking a list of specific streamers or horror story weirdos. For example, I feel that a majority of VRChat streamers are uncreative and boring, and by generalizing it to a very specific niche, you're painting a target on that generalized group, whether it's furries or "foreign" streamers who might not have the same views of the contextualization of content that is produced. It just so happens that, because of the nature of VRChat, furry or oversexualized avatars are popular. I think that this can be further applied to the NSFW aspects of it. The core community of VRChat is at an age where experimentation and interest in NSFW things simply exist. VRChat just gives people a platform to explore those avenues, but the fact remains: a good number of people are just pervs. Likewise, you don't need to witch hunt specific examples of weirdos. With a large enough sample size, you're going to find weird or criminal people within it. I'm not defending them or condoning any of their actions in the least, but bad stories of questionable nature could be found in any aspect of a community. There's no need to devote an entire section of the video to name-dropping specific examples. Instead, I wish you concentrated on WHY VRChat gives such people opportunities they would not normally have to perform those degenerate actions, and the EFFECT these kinds of stories had on the community as a whole.
All-in-all though, this is a great video that summarizes a growing problem in the VRChat community, especially three points: the splintering of the community into smaller and exclusive niches that become increasingly difficult to find or "get into," the homogeneous content that leads newcomers to believe representations of said content are an actual representation of what goes on in the game itself, and the conflict between those newcomers and the closed-circuit societal behaviors present. Those are all very big points that a lot of people in the VRChat community have noticed and worry about, since there doesn't seem to be a very easy fix to change the trend. This is especially true with features are pushed and implemented by the VRChat devs, like the Groups system, which further incentivizes people to splinter off into their own small niches. The information provided is incredibly well-summarized, and it was a true joy to find it as the highest suggested VRChat video on UA-cam instead of just another meme video with the same burned-out voice changer joke that's been done for five years now.
Just as a side note, your math is also probably incorrect. 24,000 concurrent users is just a snapshot of how many users are playing at that moment, not how many people play VRChat as a whole. Meanwhile, 45,000 people are how many are in the Reddit community as a whole. The NSFW portion of the community is certainly a significant portion of the population, but does not make up nearly an overwhelming percentage of the population as stated.
Exactly. If ya have a large enough margin, ya get yourself some evil. The larger the diversity, the easier it is for "Impurities" to crop up if you know what I'm saying. That's just how people work, that's just how it goes.
In short people forgot to escape reality to have fun.
But instead, brought their flaws & real world personalities and effected others around them.
I was a quest user. My thing was being the quiet guy that would dance anywhere & by any group. Sometimes without talking I’d end up bringing dead lobbies to life and almost have everyone dancing/vibing. (being an actual dancer).
I only talked if someone was extremely animated & we started acting out similar to characters in a cartoon.
Anything else was…too serious or perverted.
But I’m very glad I got to experience VR chat non the less.
How poetic. You can never truly escape reality. Then again, what is real?
during peak quarantine, i was introduced to vrchat and it was absolutely terrifying. never in my years of playing online games, had i ever witnessed something so deranged. the players are completely detached from reality, there is little to no moderation, and the game as a whole is a joke. it also didn’t help that people transitioned from the game over to discord,creating even more issues. servers were engulfed in explicit content, misogyny, racism, and bigotry. regardless of one’s age, users took complete advantage of each other. no form of words could thoroughly describe how disgusting and sick this game is.
Iv been playing for 2 years now. Honestly watch movies. Like making new friends irl and on vr chat. But honestly sometimes i get burnt out and it annoys the hell out of me. Trying to talk to someone is next to impossible because most people on vr are introverted. And it confuses me a bit considering. Honestly i love the chaos of it all. Honestly im currently been taking a break for a month. Dealing with work and shit
But that's just how humans are. I'm sorry but to me, every human being can be that. It's our nature, our Id, and our impulse that gets us to do that.
@@evatroniclover0026being human does not equal being evil and bad, thats not nature, id, or impulse, you need to have a moral compass, if you act like this ur no different from an uncontrolled animal, you as a human have the ability to be good and not be evil, being evil and bad is NOT NATURE, its bad.
@@evatroniclover0026you are detatched from reality and u seem to be living in ur own bubble of urs, stop living in ur own bubble and live in reality, i have seen many losers like u pass off evil actions as "nature", nature is not evil
I was in VRC Omegle one time and there was this kid who was Literally 6-7 Years old. Maybe even younger. IM not kidding This child literally said his age! and it was not in the double digits.
for the one millionth Fucking time! VRCHAT IS NOT A DAYCARE FOR C H I L D R E N!!!!!
Aye he not supposed to be there but just ignore him it's not that deep 🤷♂️
I wouldn't really blame the kid if they're that young. I figure much of the blame would fall on their parents/caregivers for just letting someone that young onto uncontrolled internet spaces in the first place.
@@ArbitraryOutcome Its 100% the parents responsibility. I've never seen the product of such irresponsibility in my life
Geez dude no need to space them out like that. We get it, this ain't a daycare.
@@southernpennsyrailfan8579 Most parents these days seem so useless.
Ugandan knuckles was literally peak love it or hate it you can't say it wasn't beautiful
While playing devils advocate on the side of some of the veterans. vrchat is always a social platform but not always a game which I can see why newer people would be confused nowadays with that info. Framing the video from the pov of it being a game kinda takes away from what made the game successful and takes the nuance away from why veteran players act they way we do sometimes. I was a young kid starting vrchat in 2017 and now am going to college so the context I mean is We didn't grow up with it as a game but really as a social so with the way the platform has changed over time many of the older players get bored, dislike the direction/toxicity, or become nilistic as the second life they've enjoyed for the growing years of their life isn't the same anymore and at what point should they move on.
Id rather vrc just make a seperate server for kids. Telling us to deal with it is just like saying we should be their babysitters which is not the reason why i get on this game
then the pedophiles and weird people are gonna flock to that server
@@meat_master88 what would you propose?
I've been playing before the knuckles invasion. I miss the 2018/2019 vrc more than ever and I can feel my mental state slipping because this game is degenerating to where my current friend group is a big part of the hyper sexualization problem this game has.
I'm tired boss.
Another alternative I see coming up in the future is S&Box. Its a spiritual successor to GMod made by the same devs, and itll have VR support. It runs on the same engine as Half-Life: Alyx (Source 2) and will basically be GMOD, but with a wider variety of games that can be created on it. Its more of a game development platform than it is a game in of itself. Honestly if a social VR gamemode is made in it, I could genuinely see it being a major competitor to VRC, with how much more modable and open ended itll be.
I would've included it if it was released. I'm closely following S&box and I think it will be incredible provided it gets picked up by a lot of people
As long as they dont give into the "metaverse" bs trend and label it as that its ok
Eh, it'll soon become bad. They'll all become bad.
I was sold when you said “game development software”. holy shit i need to try something new once in a while
I have met so many worlds with kids and some of them were being encouraged to be using so many slurs and some iffy opinions , parents should really keep an eye on em
I've played this game since 2019, played in my crappy laptop and crashed a lot. Got a headset in 2021 and have played ever since. It was fun in 2019, joked around and had fun. When I got my headset and started playing a lot more, i noticed that a ton of unsupervised children in it and they're annoying as hell. Honestly, I've made some good friends on there but they're like diamonds in the rough. TL:DR: Full of dumbasses and annoying little 4 year olds, some diamonds in the rough but it's mostly just average guys.
See ik i may sound like a kid MYSELF but being a teenagerwith a somewhat high voice some kids DID somewhat ruin it for us better people, I wanna screw around as diffrent characters, and just play games. Not all "younger age" people are here to ruin the game and for people like me who want to have fun like EVERYONE ELSE who dont annoy people with little squeaker voice unlike me, they are annoying as he said, but for peope like me who have a somewhat high voice that just may have not changed yet just get called a "kid" cause the squeakers, but the VrChat community is a bit screwed up beyond the long ahh Squeaker line i just wrote, the community is trashed by people who ruin the game entirley because they take the game WAY TOO SERIOUSLY. Id keep rambling like I always do but I dont wanna fill this comment section soooo Ill do it somewhere else.
As a child im prob a child, I wouldn't scream into my mic, that's prob a 5yo, I have seen blood gore when I was very little and more. I would say VRChat is a serious community, but it's not like a job or something, it's just a game. I know the community just want to chill, but once the community starts falling apart and there no more players left. There is no fun. So please just act nice, I have a lil nephew punching me, I act nice since he is a kid, we all act like that when we are little. Just be nice. Thanks
-IDontPostDaily
I would not call it in shambles. The VRC community had its various areas that while some should remain fully separated they all have their meeting points and some of those meeting points shouldn't exist. Every community has its own problems and since VRC is the primary way of social VR it gets a ton of attention focused at its negative portions since people loooove looking at the bad things over good things
Plenty of us do our best to keep the younger players out of the areas they should not be in but its not like we will stop every single case of that from happening, and I'm just saying that as one example. I feel the video is basically just ignoring the good parts of the VRC community just to make it look bad by showcasing all of the bad.
FINALLY. Someone with similar views to me. It's basically human nature that we do these things.
Vrchat is paedo heaven
Yeah honestly you're right, I had a few fun times in vrchat but that don't mean everything is bad, this video is stretching things for entertainment also there's always a bit of toxic players no matter what games we play but that is why the block button was invented lol xD
@@evatroniclover0026well let me tell u ur views are delluded based on nothing but lies, go to a therapist and get a reality checkn Being evil IS NOT NATURE, nature is good
"Not call it in shambles" its in shambles, and it cannot be revived anymore thanks to all of u
As a long time VRChat player of almost 6 years now that has been active intensely inside of the community and has build his own community off of this game, I agree with pretty much everything said in this video and I absolutely love the shade thrown to some of the communities in vrchat by you.
It's saddening how far the game has fallen and how different it is now from when I used to play actively with the friends I've made through that game. I've joined the game at the age of 17 in 2017 because of a popular streamer back in the days who I loved to watch (Drekwiz). I've since met many friends on the game and even flew out to the US in 2019 to meet up with some of them (I'm from europe). That week has honestly been the most fun of my life and I am still friends with that entire group. My biggest interest in the game has always been the Avatars and that you were able to create your favorite characters for the game. I've been making avatars since 2018, tons of them public and have, with the help of those avatars and the worlds I've build for them, since created a fairly large discord server with a comparably small but very fun to be around community.
I am still active in my own community and I am still actively making avatars, although mostly for a Patreon nowadays. But I have almost entirely stopped playing the game and stopped being involved anywhere outside my own community.
I share many of the same opinions about VRChat as you do, with the borderline nsfw and boring streamers, the massive and honestly just cringe nsfw community, the lewd avatars, and people taking themself far too seriously. The "Quest kiddies" is another story. While I also very much dislike them its for other reasons that are not mentioned in this video.
If you are ever feeling to making a followup to this video I would be happy to offer myself to give some input as someone who has been actively involved for almost 6 years.
Ps. Also just found ur channel through the "Twitter Philes pt.2" video, great work on that as well.
People like you are lucky. I wish I could meet a cool group of people on vrchat but it feels impossible
vrchat is the most horrifying horror game i have ever played in my life
Okay, but seriously. I am genuinely surprised how this game is 13+. By this point, just make the game for older audiences.
You blame younger users for playing or horny adults for making it as it is then complaining. :/
when i played vrchat 2018-2019 people were getting doxxed etc and randomly shown nsfw so-- it was NEVA safe for the children
As a 14-year-old on VRChat. I have seen weird stuff in game before like one time when I saw a vore avatar when I was playing a fnaf related game. and I just blocked the user no questions asked. so, I want to say keep all NSFW stuff in private servers or game designed for 18+ people and have better moderation on those games. and if you see an inappropriate avatar on VRChat, an annoying kid you don't like, or a troll. Block, mute, or hide them in game. but anyone under the age of 13 should not play the game and they should add an age rating system in the game for worlds. also I have met some really young people on the game, like one time when I was recruiting people for a star wars RP group I saw a user who was 5 years old that made me think, he's got really shit parents. last thing but in the star wars RP group we had a war with another battalion in the fashion of "this is supposed to be fun" but eventually we one then later on our discord server they join and doxxed threaten to doxx the commander even sending him his IP in text through DMs. but anyway, VRChat has just declined in quality now And I want the devs to improve it.
It's sad to see so many people having a poor experience in VRchat. Some people just would like to come home after work or school and relax. What relaxing is to them is different for everyone. I see gatekeeping from all age groups and it's really sad. Adults and kids alike should be able to enjoy a good social platform tailored just for them! Sometimes older age groups just want to sit down and talk about their experiences in a sonic the hedge hog avatar. Younger groups are still making their own experiences, so it makes sense that its boring to sit around talking about or do old people things!
People older than you will discount your experiences because you're still young. Younger people will force you out of your own spaces because you're too old and need to become some cog in a machine. Instead of trying to kick each other off of a platform, we should be discussing how to give everyone an appropriate space to be themselves safely. Even if that means providing a new and safe platform!
Your point on kids in VRC is kinda uninformed. Most people from my experience and my own personal opinion don't like kids in VR when they are in designated adult spaces. If I wanna go to a drinking world and socialize with adults and talk about adult things and wear skimpy avis I shouldn't have to moderate myself because 10 year old timmy's parents are irresponsible and letting him wander into spaces where he shouldn't be. I have to stop what I am doing to try and get the kid to leave on their own or get a vote kick started which usually doesn't even work. I could just block them but the more responsible thing to do is to get them to leave because it isn't safe for them nor do they belong in the area socially speaking. The most ideal thing (on the dev side) is to have VRC implement a certified 18+ tag that you can put on avis, worlds, and instances so that we can reasonably separate the adult playerbase from the younger playerbase and generally avoid situations like Sappho from repeating more easily. Or at the very least have the devs make a PSA to parents about the dangers of VRC.
Only thing I'll disagree with is that the majority of players hiding in limited worlds *friends+ ect.* we're doing that even before the quest was even released. This started because of trolls. The quest kids just made it worse. It sucks because it makes it even harder for normal people to try to get into the game without knowing anybody.
Truly, one of the Communities of all time.
I was playing battle discs one day, and there was a drunk guy just singing his drunk heart out. It was hilarious. He has an avatar that was moving, in a static sitting position. So frickin hilarious.
As far as the dislike for kids, I have seen votes to kick them out. At least it keeps them away from the predators. Their parents should not let them on VRChat.
just casually watching your video, didn't expect my channel to be mentioned haha
All my friends just want to go to hangout worlds and just sit. When I want to talk to people, they just stick to talking to their friends. This is why I just play VRchat alone or with one good friend in private worlds because everyone I have met in my four years of playing it just want to stare at the mirror, focus on the popular person in the lobby with a flashy or seductive avatar or cuddle strangers which some are really creepy. Regardless of any fandom within it whether it be furry, anime or whatever I've had the same experiences. It's really exhausting and makes me want to go crazy.
Hi, vrchat player here. Played since..what? July 2019? Whenever vrchat rolled out on quest 1. All it is now is sex,furries,weird mirror dwelling degenerates, and people who claim they have mental illness and so and so, i wish that vrchat would heal. And i wish that FNIA and other sexually charged fandoms would keep their damn buisness private. People wonder why im antisocial, this is why. I dont want to talk to these people.
Bro I wish you could of seen early day vrchat it’s so bad now, can’t even go a day without a friend group having drama
vrc is a cesspool. i started playing the game at 15. when i was around that age, someone (presumably an adult) came up to me in a Friday Night Funkin' world and faked an "autistic" sounding voice to get me to go out with him... When I politely said no, he screamed at me, dropping the accent and calling me ableist, telling me that he was making a youtube video about it... this shit is so crazy
An old saying that I slightly modified: if most of the tree is bad apples not even the good ones are recognised
super interesting and well made video, i remember the few times i played vrchat with a couple buddies my favorite thing to do was walk up to people with suggestive furry/anime avatars and just saying to them "what the fuck are you?" and for some reason, they always felt the need to endlessly justify their avatar choice when all i would do is walk away. fun stuff.
Yknow as a 13 year old (only 3 months in) I’ve somehow been mistaken for a girl, I literally don’t know how, it’s not a deep voice but it’s not a feminine one aswell. But they always call me a little kid after I tell them I’m not a girl than I have to explain to them I’m 13 and it’s just annoying
The internet has ALWAYS been an unsafe place. I’m glad more young people are waking up to this fact. If any of you ever have kids, I urge you to monitor their internet access. The internet is a powerful tool, yet can be very dangerous.
Consider even monitoring your younger sibling’s internet activity.
I feel like vrchat focuses too much on looks instead of personality, no one would talk to me because "my avatar looks too basic" also the toxic people really ruin the game, seriously i had a more fun experience playing secondlife and i had a simple avatar for a few years, now have a anime avatar in sl and everyone loves to talk to me no matter what i look like lol xD
Man just said that there's not enough systems in place to stop kids joining adult only areas, then proceeded to complain that those adult players are giving out about having to deal with kids in their areas because "there's plenty of tools to let you avoid them"
havent seen this channel in a while, jax, this is gold content right there, keep this up!
As someone who’s a minor and plays vrchat, I really feel uncomfortable with how many suggestive avatars there are. Don’t get me wrong, if someone feels more comfortable with an avatar like that, good for them! I do have an avatar that literally is a swimsuit which I feel comfortable using sometimes but the most covered up avatars I have personally found have either been bagged or still have some proactive stuff in it.
I think its normal to be uncomfortable when, while hanging out with your 18+ friends, a child shows up. I wouldn't want to deal with a kid in a bar, and i dont like to deal with them when I'm just trying to socialise with overseas friends.
We pretty much instantly block and mute them. I think this is probably the healthiest thing to do. Its tough, but probably for the best that they try to mix with players their own age.
as a veteran vrchat player all i can say is this game is now full of people with funky avatars, either guys with full on their woman of their dreams avatar or what not
or full on transgender avatars with ACTUAL GENITALS and i'm sick of this
I don't mind kids that scream and say stupid shit but it's when they start saying slurs over and over again that gets annoying to listen to. Of course I block them but what's annoying is knowing that every time I go into a public, I'm likely gonna run into another kid saying the hard r or something ignorant about gay people. I just hate the fact this is something you have to deal with when being in a public world nowadays
i thought id say since you called vrchat a game but i would call vrchat more of a social platform its much more like an alternative reality than just a game i heard someone say before ""vrchat is like a mall would you put your kid in a mall un supervised?"" or something like that... but i would personally call vrchat something along the lines of the wild west.. its a place that is pretty much entirely judged buy moral rights and wrongs and majority rules honestly i think kids should stay in vrchat because they can be really entertaining sometimes but really i think they should have at least one trustworthy adult to stay by them... the problem is most parents are bad parents and think that vrchat is just some day care they can dump their child in alone for a few hours and expect the few functional adults in vrchat to take care of their child for free.... (roblox has a very similar problem) so really i would say the kids aren't the problem and neither is vrchat its parents and disgusting child predators who are at fault (also most of us love vrchat for the amount of freedom it gives so stricter moderation isnt really an option.. i can imagine how much the devs are struggling over this) really nice video btw
I'll agree with you there champ. Parents seem to be ABSOLUTELY USELESS nowadays (I know mine aren't).
There’s a digital bar that people ‘work’ at for like hours no joke
I was groomed by a moderator of another popular VR Game "Rec Room" from when I was 13. I didn't realise what was going on til I found out he had been doing it to multiple other minors in the same discord server. He used his authority within the community to initiate conversations which quite quickly became sexual. Afterwards, I quickly cut contact with him and told him that if he continues, then I'd leak his address(we both shared addresses so we could send each other shit, which was absolutely stupid on both parts)
Obviously. He continued. So me and and another victim reached out to many other victims to gather evidence against him (we got quite a lot) and sent it to a few Staff members
He was never Banned or even demoted by staff officially. He himself completely deleted all 17 thousand DMs we had on discord and switched accounts and vanished
Recently I found out he has now moved onto VrChat, and has used a bit of the money we earnt on Rec Room together (it has UGC featured like roblox) to purchase full body tracking for a 16 year old so they can...well. You can guess.
I have his Name, his address, his parents full names (bought his house documents to find that one out) and where he works (hes a karate instructor for kids)
Just thought I'd share, I keep thinking about it and it's pretty traumatic to say the least. Might be worth looking into as this isn't the first time something has happened on Rec Room
@@niceman2665 I'm also scared that Staff will remove my partnered creator perms if I made it into a big thing.
People like to joke about it on the discord with subtle hints but thats about as far as it goes. Staff know about him and many others but refuse to do anything about it due to a "no witchunting" rule and that they cant do anything that happens outside the game (even though they used to erp in game) which I think is crazy.
So much for being COPPA Safe lmao. The entire game as a whole is a joke. Only reason I'm still playing is because I stuck to being a creator and now earn a solid income from the game so quitting would be like throwing cash down the drain
I wish Online predators could actually be caught, it's disgusting
@@niceman2665 someone just brought it up in the discord lol. People are definitely talking about it. But it's not really seriously and besides, he's already quit Rec room and moved onto Vrchat now
@@niceman2665 over a year ago now. We never really shared it much since RR would just try to censor it anyways. At least the prominent members of the discord know
If anyone made a video on it they'd probably be perma banned for defamation or something
You were talking about reporting it to the discord mods and stuff but did anyone tell the cops?
I have nearly 1000 hours in vrc combined on all my accounts and I dont think kids should play vrc because of the stuff that happens in vrc. There are multiple crashing/hacking groups that WILL pick on little kids, the suggestive content that you can just come across that kids can and will get a hold of (I saw a 10 yr old kid running around in the black cat once in an avatar designed to ERP) etc.
Yesterday my friend friend told me about a disgusting Traumatic event he with his furry "friends" he literally almost vomited because of how disgusting that avatars they used were.
Personally I don't have vr and never wanted to enter the territory of vrchat.
I feel bad for my friend this community has been turned from a social chatting game to a WARZONE FULL OF MINES.
NSFW is definitely the worst part of any community.
I am trying to support the younger generations so they won't turn up to be like these people
Me too, man, me too, but as long as you're a furry, I'll have to try to delineate you from that path you're taking.
Even though I’ve haven’t done vrchat publicly much there’s just some weird shit that goes on you either have people spamming screaming into the mic with weird avatars or chill people no inbetween. Nice pfp btw.
Im only 5 minutes in and i can safely say the production quality in this video is awesome
Wow, I'm impressed with you being an adult functioning around children.
My favorite thing is watching my boyfriend be confused by what the kids around us in the games are doing while I laugh. Kids are unashamed and very chaotic, they know how to have fun and I feel a lot of people have become disconnected with the concept that kids aren't horrible and that we all used to be kids at one point.
Personally I think parents should be monitoring their kids when they're playing vr games on the quest more often, but they don't, and they're left in dangerous situations and left to the whims of the internet and vrchat. It's unfortunate.
My comment was meant to also say: I agree. People don't know how to connect with or handle kids.
@@Its_Asteria i agree
I only disagree with your point on the adults annoyed by children on vrchat. Your point seems to be children screaming equals funny but I just don't. Children make me uncomfortable for the most part.
While I think VRchat devs should separate adult players and under 18+ players for sure, this is making it out to be the adult players' fault and reaks of puritanism. Let the adults enjoy the fucking game and make the game safer. Why on earth the devs haven't made two separate sections yet is astounding.
I'm tired of adults being scapegoated for all of society's ills.
Well y’know adults are responsible for… maintaining the world… so yeah…
kinda to expect from a game with this much freedom, the game is still countless hours of fun with friends imo but you definitely have to be careful in public worlds, then again, if you wanna make friends you have to take the risk
The 6 corners of vrchat erp, furries, eboy/girls, undertale, trolls, desktop, visitors.
Talk about an underrated channel... SHEEEESH subscribe to this guy... My boy putting out more work and research than NASA
@10:03 I disagree that that is the reason people started to get into private rooms en masse. It was because people started to crash others games en masse. They were also stealing other peoples avatars. Those people payed money to get that unique look. It is not a good feeling to have someone take it without permission.
strange take on introduction to vrchat video.
I've personally been playing vrchat for 3yrs at this point yes it has some bad moments, yes you get people spending year in front of mirrors yes it's got a kid problem, but the few times I go to public lobbies to hangout or play games its been fine and fun.
People just need to find what they love in vrchat you could play music, sing, do Rp, do 18+ Rp, do hangout parties, drink, play games, explore the cosmos, or become a world creator.
generally the children of vrchat fall into 2 or 3 categories
the generally chill but just happens to be younger group or the group that has a higher pitched voice because puberty screwed them over
then you have the essentially phone/ipad kids who their parents only bought them the headset to get them to stop bothering the parents who do not monitor or in most cases actually care what their child does (causes these children to behave like the worst people in existence going around yelling slurs and cursing and acting incredibly entitled)
then you have the children who have the mentality of "Im old enough to know whats going on" and then go around hunting for the most nsfw content in the game
In a lot of cases the child is literally just someone that their parents bought them a headset and then the parents expecting you the random unknown vrchat player to babysit for them
vrchat gotta be the saddest shit i ever seen
It's funny cause Tupper (the creator of vrchat) is a child pred 😂
@@JesusChrist-qv2im not even shocked in the slightest
Just bring back ugandan knuckles, vr chat has lost de wae
I love this game. And i know the fact that it has full freedom and random fun capabilities, that it'll continue to be loved, or utilized in the future. For now, the world is taking things too seriously for anything to really be fun online right now. We just have to wait and hope for a better time.
Exactly. Gotta wait and see how we turn out in the end.
I will always love VRC for just casually killing a screaming Kid in among Us and then just Default dancing on the body while listening to Ai Goku singing Cubid gay parody and having everyone else start dancing makes the game 100% worth it
I have been playing VRChat for 2 to 3 years and almost 3,000+ Hours and a lot you say in this video is true, I would also be down to tell you my whole experience!
I genuinely don’t understand how some people get so annoyed at literal children, sure they’re annoying sometimes but that’s just how kids are. Instead of whining about it go block/mute them
Hey dude! when are you going to do that video about the femboy community?
I’ve heard that community is very racist
@@chainjerkerREDEMPTION wat
@@chainjerkerREDEMPTIONbro went into mental asulum condition in the middle of writing that sentence
I've been playing the game since early 2018 and yeah, lots of weird and sketchy stuff goes on in the game compared to back then. Wouldn't be surprised if it gets banned on Twitch like Second Life one day.
There's still some good stuff in the game, but it's more difficult to find them.
19:10....this guy is real? I didn't even take this seriously bro sounds like an anime character fr
i started playing this game at like 16 and while i did stumble across some nsfw stuff on occasion,There werent so many predators and groomers and all that then, while playing daily all night after school and all weekend consistently within 2018 and 2019 I had only met 1 groomer and 1 kid that kept trying to find adults to erp with. but now i find both these types of people WEEKLY which is most likely a side effect of the quest since a lot of parents got it for their kids. And content creators shifted their focus to one of two things, making erp avatars or making bedroom worlds. Im just going to be glad i got to make some awesome memories in VRChat before it all went downhill.
so not fair ive known about this game for 5 years now and the moment i play it, they add anti cheat and the community is full of weirdos
@@xxxod the game is safer now, no more people flying around and cheating/ crashing game worlds or despawning items and all the qol client stuff was added to the game proper. Objective improvement and community has always been full of weirdos, if anything people on now are more normal than back then
NSFW stuff exists as a right in VRchat. Literally majority of social media and games don't allow nsfw, so why don't you go there instead?
@@am-ir2bxyour clearly didn't read the comment
There was an instance where a guy from a discord community I'd been in for years was a literal groomer. And he did some SUUUUUPER weird shit with one of the girls in VR Chat, bro was 19 or 20 at the time and she was like 15-16. The guy wasn't reprimanded much aside from being made fun of for the weird situation, and partly because the girl was doing weird shit too and partly starting it, leading to both parties being equally made fun of.
He finally did get banned and everything relating to him got completely WIPED, as months later he actually DID groom a different 15/16 year old girl..
The server owner actually felt really bad about this due to how obvious the signs were due to various sus incidents made by the guy who turned out to be a groomer.
The world section made me realize that SOMEHOW furry lobbies are more tame than normie ones. I don’t think I’ve ever gone to a furry lobby and seen people either making out or smacking each other’s ass. On a more serious note, grooming is a real, serious problem, especially in vrchat where most people won’t get hurt for their degeneracy. I’ve personally ran into one, and even though I ended up blocking them before things got to bad, I know not everyone is that lucky.
Roblox is honestly so bad when it comes to the ERP side of the community. It's legit spreading everywhere and at this point its becoming just like VRChat where a ton of the community knows about this side, after the pandemic it truly blew up thanks to Meepcity and many other smaller factors that lead to Roblox today: A game with a huge ERP side that you can find just by looking up Snowbunny or Blackbull.
Some of the points in this video are fine but a lot of it is misguided and some of it seems outright disingenuous. The focus on the negativity seems to be done with the intent to devalue rhe positives of the platform. Anybody that makes an account and plays the game for a few days will easily see that. Most people just want to hangout and talk, dance, watch movies, ect. 20k players is a thriving user base that a ton of games would be super lucky to hit such a population.
I've played the game in little spurts over the past 5 years and I know plenty of people who have played it and only a few speak about it with enthusiasm, most walk away from it talking about its weird community, clunky gameplay, and poor performance. I've ran into chill people, but it's rarer nowadays, as most of the time I see mirror gremlins and children dominating the platform. Most furries, rightfully so in many cases, also don't really want anything to do with you unless you're a furry as well, and despite their issues they're one of the more cohesive and fun communities to be around in this game
What pointa are inaccurate exactly? All he said in the vid about vrc are painfully accurate tbh. Hes not focusing on the negative but he talks about what vrc was and how it has fallen from grace and hes accurate tbf. The worlds are not as they were in 2018 and theres less focus on fun and too many people who take the game wayyy to seriously. Only thing he forgot to touch on were client users and they dont help the case of vrc being as inviting and fun as it once was.
There is a reason vrchat is not for kids and any parents who are watching this and ingoring the concerns and still gonna buy them one Dont! My Little sibling Use to play vrchat with Me and please dont tell come after me saying "YOU LET HER ON KNOWING ITS 13+ i was a stupid 13 year old i didint know that She would be under age for vrchat Because Literally Many Men Came over either saying "wanna fuck?' To " wanna date your cute" Most of them didint give a fuck she was 9 at the time Trust me some players tried To tell Her But My parents would just say just get off it Yet They tell her PLAY IT I SPENT 800$ ON IT So Other Parents do your research before trying to get them a vr There are Pedophiles and groomers on there I met alot when i was 13! Dont even get me started at People telling Children how to tie a fucking noose and kill themselves
I usually sit in this one world where it lets you draw and that world is like a comfort world to me somehow, I usually meet a couple of people and always end up talking to and with them for a couple of hours. Such as this one time, a girl and her friend, both were young and sounded somewhere near 10-13, I talked with them both, both seemed equally hyper and one took one of the marker's and started to just run around the world, I didn't mind it as it didn't bother me.
I can see how SOME kids can be. Very immature and stuff, but some other kids can be very fun to hang out with. Imo, kids should be able to know how to avoid those things, parents also need to know how to avoid those things as well.
Guess I'm glad I don't have the space for VR.
Yes, I know you can play VRChat with a keyboard and mouse.
I went in vrchat and this furry started to eat somebody feet and start to do some sus stuff
As a furry myself, I find that shit disgusting.
I think one really big problem that you kinda brought up but not by much is a lot of kids get on to be sexual normal around the ages 14-17. They will have there age in there bio then go around and offer lap dances and other nasty stuff. There is also those same age kids lying about there ages saying there 18+ and that's even worse because it can get people who are not trying to interact with underage people unknowingly interacting with them. A lot of the party groups I'm in started needing to see a form of id to even be allowed to join by using id apps or some other methods. That's another reason people don't want kids on vrc.
I got back into this game after I stoped playing due to a toxic situation, I can explain that if needed. But I join my old friend group, and when I tell you I was reminded within like 2 days why I stopped playing. This friend group would talk shit about people behind their back, talk crap to others ( but be able to get anything in return), cheat on their “ vrchat girlfriend”. Listen guys this game is great and good way to overcome social anxiety, but it’s not a replacement for real life and you don’t have right to put others down if you can’t talk it back or just in general. I also got kicked from a discord for, being annoying when mods of our group sever with calling me incel, changing my name to I am a dumbass, stupid ect. Never even said anything to the dude and the two “friends” I have in that discord did nothing so anther break it is
lets be real here, at this point any big game connected to many countries and has custom avatar abilities, will be saturated by furries, weirdos, or just drooling 5 year olds who burst your ear drums. The only good people of VR chat are people who 1. know what their really doing, 2. Are completely civilized 3. Not a weirdo who can't go 2 seconds without a child.
Please, PLEASE, just make the game normal players. We don't need your silly activities in here.