Yep, a much cleaner look with much better integrated headlight lines instead of the weird two step "tear" eyes. This is what the Mk8 should've been from the beginning, inside and out.
@@SwiftHDX Also nice to see the mk8 clubsport/R front bumper coming stock in the base GTI now.. I've always felt that bumper to be much more agressive!
I own a North American 40th anniversary mk8 with the DSG. Honestly, the steering wheel buttons have never been an issue, nor have i ever activated anything i didn't intend to. They work fine. Are they ideal? No, but they're not the most awful thing ever like a lot of UA-cam reviewers go on about. I can't speak on the larger infotainment since mine came with the poverty spec unit with the knobs and it works fine. Mine has frozen twice in the almost 2 years I've owned it and it feels relatively snappy. My car is tuned and makes near 400 wheel hp now and it's incredibly quick and a blast to drive.
Unpopular opionion perhaps - but I really like the touch operated steering wheel buttons in my pre-facelift MK8 GTI. Especially the sliders for volume and skipping from/to the next track are great IMO. I've also almost never falsely operated any of those touch buttons. You just have to get used to it for a couple weeks and then you can operate them perfectly through muscle memory. The regular plastic buttons are also fine - maybe a bit more intuitive for new users, even - but looks wise the cheap plastic is a big downgrade over the gloss black. Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand all the commotion around them.
@Mamin28490 Of course, it looks like a Bentley or a Lambo, or any other car from the VW group. The fog lights have nothing to do with the Kia Ceed GT, nor the rims. Also, it looks like the plastic from the dash is made from recycled pets.
@@buni9438 yes but it will shift back in a couple of seconds. It will not hold the selected gear which is stupid in a hot hatch. The point of hot hatch is to have fun on twisty road.
hope they kept the ability to hold the down paddle to drop the box to the lowest available gear based on road speed for over taking, was great on the mk8
As someone thats about to buy a mk7 originally mk6 heres my thoughts on the looks. Mk6 sometimes look best when done right but mk7 looks best all round. Mk8 looks best at the front but the rear looks like TSI. Best looking GTI honestly is the mk7
9:50 I try 2 think abt it this way: Most people who r driving out in the world r not vehicle enthusiast’s. They don’t have overly competent vehicle control, they don’t drive for a hobby, enjoyment, excitement nor professionally. They have busy lives with numerous distractions at any given time, etc etc. So if vehicle manufacturer’s find a way to help keep their driver’s safer as well as the companies bank account, they’re gonna take it. So I try to ACCEPT as much as I can whenever possible. It really helps W my sanity (whatever may b left of it).
Die enorme iPad daar in het midden zou ik er als eerste uitslopen, daarna de gti logo’s op de deuren. Eigenlijk vind ik een mk7 gewoon mooier. Maar gelukkig zijn dit geen dingen waar ik mij druk over hoef te maken want ik heb een Golf mk2 😂
At the end of the decade, every new car will cost 100k and will be built full of plastic. Never buying a piece of shit like that. Definitely I still prefer a beauty of the early 2000s or 2010s.
The 8.5-generation Golf GTI was recently launched in China, with a price of around €27,000 . However, it does not come with an LSD , and the engine is still the 3.5-generation EA888 with 220 hp. On the plus side, it is quite well-equipped and features the CS version’s rear spoiler. What shocked me the most is how expensive the price is abroad，Considering the price, I’m planning to buy it.😄
as a person who daily drives 6th gen GTI and as a fan of all GTI's I can't see many reasons to upgrade to the newest model. 8.5 looks cool and I guess it's fast but thats all it gives.
I own a Mk8 GTI w/ DSG as a beater car along with my Camaro ZLE manual and Tesla S Plaid(wife's/family car)... The MK8 GTI infotainment took a little getting used to and could definitely be better, but the interior looks good and the car drives so great for a fun daily commuter, I don't even think about it! Definite improvement in the mK8.5, but not enough of a difference for me to trade up to. The GTI badge on the door looks tacky imo!
I think the new taillights look quite tasty. I'm a huge fan of all of these updates. It's such a shame they killed off the manual for the US market. I really would have considered this for my next car
Ive just got the 8.5 GTI, in pretty much the shown spec. For those who are currently looking into these here maybe a few thoughts. Engine / drivetrain - bloody fast for 195kW, most of the time responsive only limited to bad conditions, esc is too strong in my opinion DCC - is good but personally not quite comfy enough for me to call it a real daily driver, i guess its a preference FUEL - thirsthy af. im averaging 10l with a fast but moderate driving style (in de/nl), thats too much for such a “small” engine Infotainment - its ok. Does work, not really intuitive, no feel or anything, but gets the job done. Comfort - personally its too much road and windnoise for a real daily, its to quite for a sporty car features- rather plenty for a golf, chapeau ( soundsystem, headup, etc.) First impression in general, was better then expected So in my opinion the car is okay, neither really great nor really bad. Would never advise anybody to buy (im sorry but 60k is crazy), but for those owning a business they got vw (in de) has really good leasing deals on it frequently, (similiar to toyota aygo x etc.) so worth having an eye on. For those who are interested in how a modern car should be made (mostly) have a look at the cle450 from merc, truely great car especially for those who have to travel a lot, but prefer to do so with some fun (except sound!!)
Mk7.5 GTI will always be the last great GTI. Aggressive from the front and rear, feels like a proper cockpit inside and a mix between buttons for AC/heat and touchscreen and no stupid ipad infront of you while driving. Plus no light bar on the front which looks proper dorky 😂
as you said if you re looking for a fast not so much in your face daily it might be a perfect option.....as long as you re a vw fanboy as well....which i am (:
I love it on mine. Adds presence to the car on the road and looks awesome during welcome/coming home lights. Makes it feel more premium, along with the interior lighting.
The 8 has a black hole in its light bar and feels not right. Seen a few 8.5 golfs here at night with the lit vow sign. Of all the night schemes on other Brands look off and awkward, for me at least. The VW 8.5 night logo makes it look more complete, if that makes any sense.
I’ve got one coming early new year but it got the standard wheels and suspension in yet to find a review of the bare stock car would like to see the comparison But up to 250kmph quite quickly and in gear times faster than copra ST wow
I think the issue is modern people who have to fiddle with the controls so much. Set your climate, adjust your music before you set off, and just drive.
That "safety" thing on radio is a deal breaker. I just will not buy such car, I'm dont want to be treated as an irresponsible kiddo. Wonder if a tuner could switch that off Edit So basically they made the car less safe because after you are informed the ui is blocked after using it for 5 s and you drive and drive and have to look if the window already went away you keep checking the screen not looking at the road. Congratulations vw
new, modern cars are such a shame.You're not a driver anymore, but a co-pilot who is allowed to drive with a lot of restrictions and stupid, annoying "assitance" systems while at the same time paying premium prices for a cost saving product....it's so ridiculous.
Wheel nuts are plastic covers...think you know that and were being sarcastic...😂i have a mk6 r murdered out with the best wheels taledagas and am so glad because i feel its just before chucking electronics in cars is all manufactors can do and ive already updated my car with extra usb plugs etc and will probably do an android touch screen stereo soon which is all i need
Yeah it feels like cars peaked sometime around 2013-2017. Proper engines, no OPF, no stupid warnings and assists for everything, no stupid touch everything and no ipads sticking out of the dash and you could still get a manual gearbox. And no tacky lightbars in the front. Looks like a 2 eur LED strip from a random Chinese shop.
Why is the charge port always on the drivers side on cars sold in the EU? I see a lot of cables sticking out on the roadside, especially tricky to avoid when on a bicycle.
So let me get this straight: they are building tablet screens in all new cars without any physical buttons anymore.. just to tell you while you driving you can’t do shit? For real? Not just vw. Wtf
Why would I pay so much money for this when with that money I can buy a W221 S63 AMG and have money left. An E55 AMG, CL, CLS, S55 or a MK4 R32, MK5, R32, etc. Even a Golf Mk6 R.. A good performing Porsche the list goes on and on and on...
Actually you have more control on these cars. Shifting manually means increased attention on operating the car instead of just focusing on driving the car which means controlling the dynamics of the car but i get the involvement part. You want to do more, you want to make sure that what the car does it`s from your own command. Maybe the world is slipping beneath us and subconsciously we crave more control. I`d be more concerned with the user data collection and privacy infringing that the modern cars are doing. It`s a far more important thing.
All these primadonna complaints about the Mach 8 and I've had mine since September and I luv it and can't think of one thing bad about it. People just like to hear themselves whine I guess. 🤔
Say for example if this car was 60k NZD would everyone prefer to spend an extra 5k to remove alot of the cost saving stuff for ease of life improvements such as the touchscreen or processor running it/software etc? along with buttons etc? If im spending 60k id rather spend an extra 5k to know that im not gonna be annoyed by a brand new performance hatch
A very competent car in corners with more than enough daily driver oomph, but still terrible infotainment controls, no manual shift, and the price versus quality is "very ambitious".
it looks much better than the previous version i think
Yep, a much cleaner look with much better integrated headlight lines instead of the weird two step "tear" eyes. This is what the Mk8 should've been from the beginning, inside and out.
@@SwiftHDX Also nice to see the mk8 clubsport/R front bumper coming stock in the base GTI now.. I've always felt that bumper to be much more agressive!
" For an Autobahn blaaaaast " I'll never get tired of that sentence !
If it were Autobahn and not OOOtobahn that would be great.
That's awesome 😂😂😂
Trademark Max 😂😂😂
Max IS great whyt that
It's actually Autobahn "BLUUUUUST
Imagine paying €62k and not being able to change the radio channel while driving 😂😂
That's not a VW-thing. My Z4 interrupts excessive use of the touch screen while driving as well.
Its mandatory by law
haha wtf...i just imagine that.
Safety first!
whats worse is not being able to put it in manual mode. Rip...
They are plastic wheel nut caps/covers. They just pull off to uncover the wheel bolts 👍
You can tell he never changed a tire on a car
@ 👍
@@MyRealName to be fair its quits VW specific, also alot of people get rid of them.
The 8.5 looks very sharp, really like the front end. Those headlights look really nice.
Car prices ⬆
Car quality ⬇
Its vw what do u expect ? It always makes poor quality vehicles 😅
@@scottysvensson
Subie owner?
This car model used to be the shining star of VW
@@Northwindbreeze
Still is.
@@audieconrad8995 with 14sec 100-200? 🤣🤣🤣
Golf 9 will come out with a 32" Qled tv on the dash. Ridiculous really at what they are busy doing.
There's no way that playing with all that stuff Is safe .
And ps5 pro as an option 😂
they need to get rid of the screens, go back to physical controls.
€62k and you only get plastic and cost savings everywhere. If you buy this 1st hand, you don't care about your money.
You buy this as a 1 or 2 year old car with extended warranty and 20k off. Pre facelifts can be had for 35k under 20k km
Or new in the US for $37K plus tax
@@philippluklasnot just that, a used mk8 with 10-20k miles is easily 26-29k now with extended warranty. 😂
Bro, the mini JCW costs about the same, has way more cheap plastics, and it's worse in pretty much everything.
You should nnever buy a car first hand
It's unbelievable how bad this is compared to Mk7 which came out 10 years ago. It seems to be made by people who hate cars, not people who,love cars.
Yep thank the Jews for it
@@hass1337 umm wtf?
I love cars,and I like this😂
@@MyRealNamereported
@@hass1337 🤣based.
The wheels remind me more of what Alfa Romeo offers than the Golf GTI Mk5
Or a 2013 Kia picanto 🗿
@@Bahle_Gaji lol. man that kia had nice wheels.
I own a North American 40th anniversary mk8 with the DSG. Honestly, the steering wheel buttons have never been an issue, nor have i ever activated anything i didn't intend to. They work fine. Are they ideal? No, but they're not the most awful thing ever like a lot of UA-cam reviewers go on about. I can't speak on the larger infotainment since mine came with the poverty spec unit with the knobs and it works fine. Mine has frozen twice in the almost 2 years I've owned it and it feels relatively snappy. My car is tuned and makes near 400 wheel hp now and it's incredibly quick and a blast to drive.
Unpopular opionion perhaps - but I really like the touch operated steering wheel buttons in my pre-facelift MK8 GTI. Especially the sliders for volume and skipping from/to the next track are great IMO. I've also almost never falsely operated any of those touch buttons. You just have to get used to it for a couple weeks and then you can operate them perfectly through muscle memory. The regular plastic buttons are also fine - maybe a bit more intuitive for new users, even - but looks wise the cheap plastic is a big downgrade over the gloss black. Maybe it's just me, but I don't understand all the commotion around them.
A Golf 7 will forever be better.
Yet dynamically, performance and looks wise the 8 is a step up.
The dash layout of my Mk 7.5 is a masterpiece of design.
@ I would say the same for the mk8, people never gave it chance
@@bobbydwheelhouse dynamically???? its a step up everywhere
I'll be hanging on to my 2016 GTI S 6-speed manual for as long as I can. A stage I tune gives me enough to enjoy.
A Kia Ceed GT 1st generation with Alfa wheels
Actually, it doesn't look like a Kia Ceed GT and the rims aren't Alfa rims, they're a tribute to the MK5 GTI rims.
@Mamin28490 Of course, it looks like a Bentley or a Lambo, or any other car from the VW group. The fog lights have nothing to do with the Kia Ceed GT, nor the rims. Also, it looks like the plastic from the dash is made from recycled pets.
In Australia we only get the MK8/8.5 fitted with the old EA888.3 engine from the mk7/7.5 yet we're paying inflated prices vs the rest of the world
move to a different country
i,m sticking with my mk5 manual.
@@paulbata9649 upgrade to a mk3
@@behindthen0thing525 or stay in mine and get a Cupra or i30N
Not be able to switch to manual mode in a car like this is a crime.
You can just by clicking down the gear nub one time, lol. Or just by clicking the steering pedals.
@@buni9438 yes but it will shift back in a couple of seconds. It will not hold the selected gear which is stupid in a hot hatch. The point of hot hatch is to have fun on twisty road.
That red exterior color suits the car so nice 👌
To describe the car: Well suited in all conditions
This looks beautiful!
hope they kept the ability to hold the down paddle to drop the box to the lowest available gear based on road speed for over taking, was great on the mk8
Just use kickdown instead
I'm glad you liked it. It got upto 267 km pretty quick! Looked like a great suspension system.
My first Car End of the 80`s was a Golf 1 GTI Pirelli. It was great! Today the soul has been lost!
As someone thats about to buy a mk7 originally mk6 heres my thoughts on the looks. Mk6 sometimes look best when done right but mk7 looks best all round. Mk8 looks best at the front but the rear looks like TSI. Best looking GTI honestly is the mk7
It’s flying really, slight bump in horsepower for this 8.5 as well.
9:50 I try 2 think abt it this way: Most people who r driving out in the world r not vehicle enthusiast’s. They don’t have overly competent vehicle control, they don’t drive for a hobby, enjoyment, excitement nor professionally. They have busy lives with numerous distractions at any given time, etc etc. So if vehicle manufacturer’s find a way to help keep their driver’s safer as well as the companies bank account, they’re gonna take it. So I try to ACCEPT as much as I can whenever possible. It really helps W my sanity (whatever may b left of it).
Horrible. These gigantic screens are a dealbreaker on its own.
The basic new Gti here in Australia is around €36,500 or $60,000 Aud. That's a good price
im guessing itll be around low-mid 30s USD too
@VisionCityMayor
I'm guessing so, too. It's a great looking car with good performance with the heritage....
With the old ea888.3 engine :(
Die enorme iPad daar in het midden zou ik er als eerste uitslopen, daarna de gti logo’s op de deuren. Eigenlijk vind ik een mk7 gewoon mooier. Maar gelukkig zijn dit geen dingen waar ik mij druk over hoef te maken want ik heb een Golf mk2 😂
Mk2 golf is prachtig!
It seems very quiet inside at high speeds. I like that
Vw are nuts, ridiculous, I miss the golf 6 days man
golf 7/7.5 will be the best forever
Got mine Clubsporta 2 days ago , thats lovely fast car ! Yes we are at Netherlands
Die Motorabdeckung sagt einiges über den aktuellen Zustand von VW aus😢
i dont like how there are almost no buttons in the interior.
ice age??
At the end of the decade, every new car will cost 100k and will be built full of plastic.
Never buying a piece of shit like that. Definitely I still prefer a beauty of the early 2000s or 2010s.
The 8.5-generation Golf GTI was recently launched in China, with a price of around €27,000 . However, it does not come with an LSD , and the engine is still the 3.5-generation EA888 with 220 hp. On the plus side, it is quite well-equipped and features the CS version’s rear spoiler. What shocked me the most is how expensive the price is abroad，Considering the price, I’m planning to buy it.😄
i was genuinely surprised by this, until I realised it's the GIT..i mean GTI
as a person who daily drives 6th gen GTI and as a fan of all GTI's I can't see many reasons to upgrade to the newest model. 8.5 looks cool and I guess it's fast but thats all it gives.
I own a Mk8 GTI w/ DSG as a beater car along with my Camaro ZLE manual and Tesla S Plaid(wife's/family car)... The MK8 GTI infotainment took a little getting used to and could definitely be better, but the interior looks good and the car drives so great for a fun daily commuter, I don't even think about it! Definite improvement in the mK8.5, but not enough of a difference for me to trade up to.
The GTI badge on the door looks tacky imo!
I’ve a manual 7.5 gti. Great car, perfect amount of power for a daily drive. Can’t stand the looks and features of either the 8 or 8.5.
I think the new taillights look quite tasty. I'm a huge fan of all of these updates. It's such a shame they killed off the manual for the US market. I really would have considered this for my next car
Ive just got the 8.5 GTI, in pretty much the shown spec. For those who are currently looking into these here maybe a few thoughts.
Engine / drivetrain - bloody fast for 195kW, most of the time responsive only limited to bad conditions, esc is too strong in my opinion
DCC - is good but personally not quite comfy enough for me to call it a real daily driver, i guess its a preference
FUEL - thirsthy af. im averaging 10l with a fast but moderate driving style (in de/nl), thats too much for such a “small” engine
Infotainment - its ok. Does work, not really intuitive, no feel or anything, but gets the job done.
Comfort - personally its too much road and windnoise for a real daily, its to quite for a sporty car
features- rather plenty for a golf, chapeau ( soundsystem, headup, etc.)
First impression in general, was better then expected
So in my opinion the car is okay, neither really great nor really bad. Would never advise anybody to buy (im sorry but 60k is crazy), but for those owning a business they got vw (in de) has really good leasing deals on it frequently, (similiar to toyota aygo x etc.) so worth having an eye on.
For those who are interested in how a modern car should be made (mostly) have a look at the cle450 from merc, truely great car especially for those who have to travel a lot, but prefer to do so with some fun (except sound!!)
For "only" 265 hp this is very rapid.
Mk7.5 GTI will always be the last great GTI. Aggressive from the front and rear, feels like a proper cockpit inside and a mix between buttons for AC/heat and touchscreen and no stupid ipad infront of you while driving. Plus no light bar on the front which looks proper dorky 😂
as you said if you re looking for a fast not so much in your face daily it might be a perfect option.....as long as you re a vw fanboy as well....which i am (:
That golf must has more than 280hp
Have*
There is ClubSport with 300HP
If it would cost 30-40k ok, but these prices are insane!
This is a beautiful car my goodness
That's not a wheelnut, it's just some plastic covers over the real wheel nuts. VW use that on many of their cars (my Passat has them, too).
Wish they would make GTDs again with golf r running gear would buy one tomorrow
In germany you can lease this Mk8.5 GTI for around 150€ as a company car which makes it almost a no-brainer
Classic sporty look.
I hate the trend with the light bar above the "WV" badge, which WV introduced. Guys chill out, its a car not a gaming pc.
I love it on mine. Adds presence to the car on the road and looks awesome during welcome/coming home lights. Makes it feel more premium, along with the interior lighting.
The 8 has a black hole in its light bar and feels not right. Seen a few 8.5 golfs here at night with the lit vow sign. Of all the night schemes on other Brands look off and awkward, for me at least. The VW 8.5 night logo makes it look more complete, if that makes any sense.
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Nice Alfa Romeo style wheels. 😁
Very Alfa Romeo style wheels lol
I like the wheels. They remind me of the Alfa Romeo's.
I’ve got one coming early new year but it got the standard wheels and suspension in yet to find a review of the bare stock car would like to see the comparison
But up to 250kmph quite quickly and in gear times faster than copra ST wow
Mines come end of January with standard wheels and suspension
I think the previous gen VW in general they all look much better
I think the issue is modern people who have to fiddle with the controls so much. Set your climate, adjust your music before you set off, and just drive.
That "safety" thing on radio is a deal breaker. I just will not buy such car, I'm dont want to be treated as an irresponsible kiddo. Wonder if a tuner could switch that off
Edit
So basically they made the car less safe because after you are informed the ui is blocked after using it for 5 s and you drive and drive and have to look if the window already went away you keep checking the screen not looking at the road. Congratulations vw
Alfa called me they want there wheels back😂😂😂
Can the big screen be operated/scrolled when there is a passenger sitting? Like if you would have your friend scrolling through radio stations.
You need to order the PFDS option to do that (passenger finger detection system).
266 kph = 165 mph in a GTI. ooooooof
Great video and analysis as usual. But why no gps speed ?
GTI has lost its soul
same as what happen to the mk3 and 4
You guys got engine cover? 😳
Pedestrian safety cover rather
never understood these seats..
LOOK AT WHAT THEY DID TO MY BOYYYY
Thank you !
new, modern cars are such a shame.You're not a driver anymore, but a co-pilot who is allowed to drive with a lot of restrictions and stupid, annoying "assitance" systems while at the same time paying premium prices for a cost saving product....it's so ridiculous.
I would be happy with one of these here in the third world.
Wheel nuts are plastic covers...think you know that and were being sarcastic...😂i have a mk6 r murdered out with the best wheels taledagas and am so glad because i feel its just before chucking electronics in cars is all manufactors can do and ive already updated my car with extra usb plugs etc and will probably do an android touch screen stereo soon which is all i need
For sure a good car overall, of course has a lot of downsides, but I still think the main problem is its way overpriced what it is
fog lights remind me of the Temerario
👍 Very Beautiful 👍
Cars are getting to modern. 2015-2020 was perfect, now its just getting laughably ridiculous!
Yeah it feels like cars peaked sometime around 2013-2017. Proper engines, no OPF, no stupid warnings and assists for everything, no stupid touch everything and no ipads sticking out of the dash and you could still get a manual gearbox. And no tacky lightbars in the front. Looks like a 2 eur LED strip from a random Chinese shop.
bring back ferdinand piech
Why is the charge port always on the drivers side on cars sold in the EU? I see a lot of cables sticking out on the roadside, especially tricky to avoid when on a bicycle.
So let me get this straight: they are building tablet screens in all new cars without any physical buttons anymore.. just to tell you while you driving you can’t do shit? For real? Not just vw. Wtf
Why would I pay so much money for this when with that money I can buy a W221 S63 AMG and have money left. An E55 AMG, CL, CLS, S55 or a MK4 R32, MK5, R32, etc. Even a Golf Mk6 R.. A good performing Porsche the list goes on and on and on...
Beautiful car and the perfect all-rounder. Still one of the best hot hatches.
to be honest 8.5 is my favourite gti😂
Some of my friend have this VDoubleyou too.
Quite good car but bit too expensive
Actually you have more control on these cars. Shifting manually means increased attention on operating the car instead of just focusing on driving the car which means controlling the dynamics of the car but i get the involvement part. You want to do more, you want to make sure that what the car does it`s from your own command. Maybe the world is slipping beneath us and subconsciously we crave more control. I`d be more concerned with the user data collection and privacy infringing that the modern cars are doing. It`s a far more important thing.
better to buy clubsport or this one ?
All these primadonna complaints about the Mach 8 and I've had mine since September and I luv it and can't think of one thing bad about it. People just like to hear themselves whine I guess. 🤔
Just got a 2020 cupra 290 paying 27k. With 62k is this supoosed to be more than twice the car? Ridiculous..
Max the worst part about the System is that the Safety Screen Activates even when a passenger is using the screen! It Needs To STOP!
13:58 where do i find the list?
You should not shift up from 5th to 6th gear.
At this point make them fully autonomous ffs.....
Say for example if this car was 60k NZD would everyone prefer to spend an extra 5k to remove alot of the cost saving stuff for ease of life improvements such as the touchscreen or processor running it/software etc? along with buttons etc? If im spending 60k id rather spend an extra 5k to know that im not gonna be annoyed by a brand new performance hatch
I don't understand why they don't bring the Golf estate as a GTI in Europe.
Hey Max, can you find a GLE580 for review?!
Your complaints about the touch buttons on the steering wheel are completely overblown
I30n ftw
A very competent car in corners with more than enough daily driver oomph, but still terrible infotainment controls, no manual shift, and the price versus quality is "very ambitious".
Welke snelweg is dit in duitsland
I was overall loving the car until I saw the radio thing lol