It really depends on the equipment used by the train I think. It seems that Amtrak trains like the Northeast Regional or the Keystone Service, hauled by a single Siemens ACS-64 usually only have 1 pantograph on top of the locomotive up. Meanwhile the Acela Express with its 2 power cars on its both ends in a push/pull configuration have 2 pantographs up, 1 per power car. The NJ Transit trains hauled by a ALP-46 seem to also have just 1 pantograph up. It's the Arrow IIIs which are electric multiple units that usually have multiple pantographs up. ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html I shot my video the day after the snow on the corridor. Feel free to check and see how many pantographs are up on the trains.
I suppose, it is because of high speed of Amtrak trains. Current collection becomes more difficult at high speeds with clean contact wire. And it will be more difficult with contact wire, coated with thin ice. Also, ice will cause heavy arcing between contact wire and pantograph's contact shoe, which wears both. So, in order to maintain good and maximum arcing-free current collection, both pantographs are raised. PRR had a "Double pantograph order" for such weather conditions. Also, local tracks are used more intensive during a day, than express tracks - that's prevents from ice buildup at local track's contact wire.
^ Just the design of the new “City Sprinter” Amtrak electric locomotives. They’re fairly new, only having first appeared a few years ago. Before them, the AEM-7 electric locos or “toasters” as they were referred to as, had only one pantograph reaching up to take power from the overhead catenary wires.
The lead pantograph is dead, but is up in order to clear ice and snow buildup from the wire so that the trailing pantograph has less chance of arcing or losing power. It is an Amtrak-specific operation procedure. I guess NJ transit does not have this SOP.
Is the Northeast Corridor Line the only one that provides light rail? Because every light rail I see coming in and out of Newark Penn is bound for Trenton.
I don’t think you have it quite correct. The NJT Light Rail is an entirely different system. It’s like a trolley or streetcar, and only serves urban areas in New Jersey like Newark. Or you have the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail in Hoboken, Bayonne, etc.
Yes. Of course. On the Northeast Corridor Line, it’s the only way the trains receive power from the overhead catenary wires which are highly electrified.
I shot my video of Trains on the corridor on the Saturday after the snow storm at Edison station, please feel free to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html Unfortunately in less than 24 hours after the snowing had stopped, a lot of it had already melted.
Why does that station have a low level.platform, strange.as Princeton Junction has a door height platform. How does one get on and off the train with a low level platform, rather awkward I would think.
Simple answer Jersey Ave was never upgraded and the there is no to do so. It's a park and ride station with nothing else around it. I'm guessing Jersey Ave will be eliminated if North Brunswick gets built. All NJ Transit trains have the capacity to board both low and high platforms.
^ Because it’s very infrequently served (I think they should consider just closing it) and it’s just been neglected. There’s literally nothing around the station, nothing to walk to and no stores or businesses around. You can’t reach it without a car and it’s literally just a parking lot. It’s fairly useless. Then again, if it were closed, it wouldn’t be such a great place for railfanning!!
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amfleet#Design As far as Amtrak's Amfleet coaches are concerned, I think their design was meant to emulate the aesthetics of airliners as well as to make the windows somewhat less susceptible to damage in case they were hit by debris.
^ That’s just the design. Ask the people at Kawasaki or Bombardier or whoever designed these cars when they came out in the 1970’s. The double-decker cars are newer, but you have to have slightly smaller windows in order to accommodate a bi-level train. And it just looks smaller cause you’re viewing the cars from somewhat of a distance but inside the cars looking out, the view is just fine. Now, if they would WASH the cars from time to time…but that’s a different story.
ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html My video on the corridor trains was shot the day after the snow. Feel free to check it out. Although I do have to say that the snow did melt pretty fast within a day...
As I said on the other video. My guess for both pantographs being up is for more power output since ice accumulation on catenary cause power to not be as great as it would be in normal conditions. At least that's my guess anyways lol.
Amtrak runs lead pantographs up (not drawing power) in icy conditions so that the lead can scrape the ice off the wire and give the trailing a better power connection
![Amtrak & NJ Transit Northeast Corridor [NEC] Morning Rush Hour Action @ Jersey Avenue (9/26/23)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/aMPsXvbbEgo/mqdefault.jpg)
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It’s amazing how much quieter trains are with snow packed around the rails
Nice catches of the NJT and Amtrak trains in the snow!
Nice! Jersey Ave seems like a very busy place. I really want to go back to NJ for railfanning
ok
Nothing better than to be snow rail fanning Nice video
Nice trains in the snow!
Why are the trains going slow? Ig cause of the fog or something
No, because they're crossing over up ahead, so 45 mph speed restriction for the switches.
@@FanRailer ahh ok
I love The train in
the snow
Why do the Amtrak locos have both pantographs up but not the NJTransit locos? Is it because of speed?
No Amtrak does that to keep the Ice off the wires, more like a Ice Scrapper 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽 !!!
It really depends on the equipment used by the train I think. It seems that Amtrak trains like the Northeast Regional or the Keystone Service, hauled by a single Siemens ACS-64 usually only have 1 pantograph on top of the locomotive up. Meanwhile the Acela Express with its 2 power cars on its both ends in a push/pull configuration have 2 pantographs up, 1 per power car. The NJ Transit trains hauled by a ALP-46 seem to also have just 1 pantograph up. It's the Arrow IIIs which are electric multiple units that usually have multiple pantographs up.
ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html I shot my video the day after the snow on the corridor. Feel free to check and see how many pantographs are up on the trains.
I suppose, it is because of high speed of Amtrak trains. Current collection becomes more difficult at high speeds with clean contact wire. And it will be more difficult with contact wire, coated with thin ice. Also, ice will cause heavy arcing between contact wire and pantograph's contact shoe, which wears both. So, in order to maintain good and maximum arcing-free current collection, both pantographs are raised. PRR had a "Double pantograph order" for such weather conditions. Also, local tracks are used more intensive during a day, than express tracks - that's prevents from ice buildup at local track's contact wire.
^ Just the design of the new “City Sprinter” Amtrak electric locomotives. They’re fairly new, only having first appeared a few years ago. Before them, the AEM-7 electric locos or “toasters” as they were referred to as, had only one pantograph reaching up to take power from the overhead catenary wires.
The lead pantograph is dead, but is up in order to clear ice and snow buildup from the wire so that the trailing pantograph has less chance of arcing or losing power. It is an Amtrak-specific operation procedure. I guess NJ transit does not have this SOP.
Magical...I love it...
Is the Northeast Corridor Line the only one that provides light rail? Because every light rail I see coming in and out of Newark Penn is bound for Trenton.
I don’t think you have it quite correct. The NJT Light Rail is an entirely different system. It’s like a trolley or streetcar, and only serves urban areas in New Jersey like Newark. Or you have the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail in Hoboken, Bayonne, etc.
Wow, nice feeling and beautiful Amtrak ，man
Wish you had captured the Acela, that really moves and looks great in the snow.
Love this sound
Are all NJT's suppose to have both pans up during that time?
I believe so, I’ve seen other videos with both pans 🆙!!!
Yes. Of course. On the Northeast Corridor Line, it’s the only way the trains receive power from the overhead catenary wires which are highly electrified.
Speechless amazing
Beautiful
But I need more could we get a longer video in the future of Jersey Ave or Princeton Junction
how are you first
I shot my video of Trains on the corridor on the Saturday after the snow storm at Edison station, please feel free to check it out: ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html Unfortunately in less than 24 hours after the snowing had stopped, a lot of it had already melted.
@@Shuotography just stop
Wow you look so good train
Why does that station have a low level.platform, strange.as Princeton Junction has a door height platform. How does one get on and off the train with a low level platform, rather awkward I would think.
You have to use the end doors of each car where there are stairwells down to "suburban platform level."
There stairs that you exit from once the trap is open..
Simple answer Jersey Ave was never upgraded and the there is no to do so. It's a park and ride station with nothing else around it.
I'm guessing Jersey Ave will be eliminated if North Brunswick gets built.
All NJ Transit trains have the capacity to board both low and high platforms.
^ Because it’s very infrequently served (I think they should consider just closing it) and it’s just been neglected. There’s literally nothing around the station, nothing to walk to and no stores or businesses around. You can’t reach it without a car and it’s literally just a parking lot. It’s fairly useless. Then again, if it were closed, it wouldn’t be such a great place for railfanning!!
Good thing I scrolled down I was going to ask the same thing and I was looking for the platform across the tracks
And can someone please explain why all these trains have such small narrow windows?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amfleet#Design As far as Amtrak's Amfleet coaches are concerned, I think their design was meant to emulate the aesthetics of airliners as well as to make the windows somewhat less susceptible to damage in case they were hit by debris.
^ That’s just the design. Ask the people at Kawasaki or Bombardier or whoever designed these cars when they came out in the 1970’s. The double-decker cars are newer, but you have to have slightly smaller windows in order to accommodate a bi-level train. And it just looks smaller cause you’re viewing the cars from somewhat of a distance but inside the cars looking out, the view is just fine. Now, if they would WASH the cars from time to time…but that’s a different story.
The windows aren't that small, once you get into the train and sit down it allows for enough viewing space.
I can’t speak on Amtrak windows but the double decker NJ transit windows aren’t as small as you think.
More please do more 😆
ua-cam.com/video/ZobZTwVe7yM/v-deo.html My video on the corridor trains was shot the day after the snow. Feel free to check it out. Although I do have to say that the snow did melt pretty fast within a day...
It sounds like that train pulling into the platform at 4:30 went into emergency.
As I said on the other video. My guess for both pantographs being up is for more power output since ice accumulation on catenary cause power to not be as great as it would be in normal conditions. At least that's my guess anyways lol.
lol The Train at 2:35 was hauling the mail!
Hope you did not get 'cold feet' taking pictures(LOL).
I'll miss the Arrows when they go😭
^ They’ll always be in my heart. The best NJT cars there ever were.
Wow you’re free lol
County interlocking
2:38 Both Pantographs Up?!
One for scraping the ice, and second for power.
Amtrak runs lead pantographs up (not drawing power) in icy conditions so that the lead can scrape the ice off the wire and give the trailing a better power connection