Mig Welding Technique Taught by Old Timer
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I can tell this technique is very close to your heart, anytime someone shows me something, I take it very personal, in the sense that their experience and teachings are vital to me, because should I ignore their advice, it is not only an insult to their time and their skills as well as them, it is an insult to the countless experiences passed on from generation tradesman to generation tradesman... Information from people with plenty of experience is vital in the learning process of young-ish (23 years old) minds like mine, it's just a shame my tradesman went to go work in the mines, but I will never forget what he taught me.
Of course the downside is, there are people out there who don't exactly know anything and pass down falsified information without realising the repercussions of such actions.
Whoa. That was awesome.
+Azza Of course, it's also annoying when they ALL want to pass down information, and it's all different, and you get confused and screw up and get angry...
Well said
Thank you everyone :)
+Merlyn Pyndragon Your anger sounds like a personal issue, not a welding technique.
Any time an old timer gives you a tip it's a tip worth listening to.
This is not true. I mean we hope it is, but the older I get the more I realize alot of these "Old timers" were never good, never got good, but because their hair got white all of a sudden their wisdom is solid gold.
Any tip given by anyone who is knowledgeable or proficient at something is worth listening to. Age does not necessarily make you worth listening to.
unfortunately.
@@karbonxiii some people may be good at very particular things. but be dumb at most things. For instance, I would not listen to my mother about anything, except for maybe cooking tips.
Papa Bear that’s true, it’s the most useful information coming from someone with so much experience
UA-cam commenters excellently exhibit the Dunning-Krueger effect. Especially on skilled work training videos. Just ask the keyboard welders for links to their videos. What no link? Yep, just some inexperienced, overconfident keyboard trolls.
I've been a welder for 30+ yrs. In all except under water welding, but I have some friends that have and told me that they have had to deal with jelly fish a lot. So yes I am a old school welder...
I have no idea why I'm here, I have never welded in my entire life
+Max Jansson Maybe you're exploring a new career?
+Max Jansson so now you have the info to start :)
+Max Jansson because you are a frustrated welder in the back of your mind !!
+Max Jansson called a youtube black hole
Me either, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express last night.
I watched this video 3 years ago and to this day this is how i mig weld. looks amazing, its even, and for a young welder like me picking up a good technique like this early is gonna impact my future for the best
Jodie does a great job in showing you all his experience and it helps novices learn much easier. Every welder has their own legacy of doing things and that's fine. Listen and learning will make you the welder you want 2 be some day. The welding procedures defines the method of welding and compliances.
Push for solid wire pull for flux core. No need to move in circles just a steady hand and steady speed, the right settings and you will have an awesome weld.
ALWAYS listen to the old timers. Welding school and two decades of shop experience helped me to learn. Listening to men in the trade that have been doing longer than I've been alive taught me more than the previous combined and helped secure a $60k+ a year spot in a precision fab shop. Shut your mouth and open your ears. That J.
justincunningham1976
Im a 5th generation wood worker. Old timers are the encyclopedias of their craft.
You'd be amazed at what tips you can pick up from someone who has 20 plus years of experience. Just in random conversations
$60,000 a year?..I'm turning in my spatula for a Stinger.
Worked in a shop myself...mostly TIG on aluminum industrial duct work, but plenty of MIG and stick too, as well as some layout and custom work. I loved welding, but it's been years now.
I only wish there were more like you. In my day I would love picking the brains of older tradesmen. Now it seems no one is listening everybody knows everything cause they seen it on u tube.
People are waiting for you to breath so they can interject.
Anyway , good for you and its paid off. EVEN BETTER.
No welding school but 40+ years shop experience. Wish I was making 60k
That's what my first high school welding shop teacher taught us. He was a fabricator in the Air Force for 20+yrs before he retired and started teaching in an A+P program high school. He made us draw a half page of different size circles on lines then a half page free hand. I've used this technique working on cars and trucks including chassis repair, fabrication, installing snow plows and tailgates. No failures, gas, mig or tig.
Mine too...Mr. Merriman
Seems like a good way for me to practice before I take my cert test. Thanks
Jim Zivn
I also got taught this at tech school in Australia. I think that most welders that have attended welding school would be taught this technique. Still great to watch.
in my welding class we started out on oxy/acet welding before moving on to smaw. there we would do flat then onto vertical down followed by vertical up and then overhead before winding up with smaw pipe. by the time we went through all that the mig was a cinch and my instructor just told me to go out and and run a few welds and see how it turned out. i think i was on mig about a day before testing it was so easy after so long with stick. then onto tig which i loved the most. i found tig was easy after doing all that oxy/acet welding prior.
Lol...my step dad was a welder and despite his best efforts to teach me to weld, this video with the illustration showing the technique is what I needed all those years ago. Very nice quick to the point video. Many thanks!!!
Yo this dudes welds are on POINT!!!!! I think all us welders have our own tricks but a good weld is a good weld at the end of the day. MAD props!!!
Thanks for all your efforts, I watch all your videos and have learned a lot from them. I'm commenting to thank you for a couple tips in particular. This one using cursive e's and using aluminum to block a steel weld from going too far. I just returned from a pheasant hunt in South Dakota. The farmer broke a sickle bar on his combine mid harvest on a Sat morning. Last time this happened it was a $1200 repair and would have meant three days down time before he could get a replacement part installed. My hunting partner took apart a small section of the sickle bar, used an old aluminum license plate to shield the broken bar from the bar it rides on. I then welded the two halves back together using your techniques. Down time for the farmer was an hour and a half, cost was a few feet of mig wire. He finished the soy bean harvest without issue. I wouldn't have been able to do the weld without the aluminum trick I got from one of your videos. I do mig, tig , gas and stick with no formal schooling. All my training has come from your channel and a couple others. What you are doing has a huge impact on a lot of people, and is greatly appreciated. Joe
Don't give a hoot for the "professional/tradesmen long experienced" commentators here, this bloke would out weld me, and so many, day in and day out. I hate nit-pickers. This bloke is HIGHLY skilled and if you want to naysay, put up your own work and add to the body of his lessons.
Jody puts out a video a week and his welds always look perfect.
EXACTLY. Well said!
I've worked on ships all my life and have always been in awe of the welders' skills. My last 20 years have been on aluminium ships and some of the welders' work is sheer artistry. It's only when you are as bad a welder as me that you can appreciate the talent these men have.
Thanks for the video! I’m about to start training on MIG so I’m gonna watch a lot of your videos to give me any help I can get.
On a lap joint like this I usually focus most of the heat on the bottom piece of material and then let the heat transfer to the edge of the other piece of material on top and then they naturally fuze together. That's they way I was taught and it seems to work very well.
in my experience it has a lot to do with the welder and the gas used. its mostly getting the speed and heat setting correct
BILLSTMA
Clams. Current. Length of arc. Manipulation, speed of travel.
So many different factors going on. In MiG welding they are all going on so fast all at the same time. You have to train your head to handle them all automatically.
When it comes to pushing versus pulling, in MiG welding it doesn’t matter a whole lot one way or the other, what I have found is that pushing just makes more spatter shoot off the end all over the place while in pulling most spatter that may be shooting off the end goes right into the puddle. That’s about it.
Unbelievable just how much guys in a shop will argue about it.
For Gas use the next trick : if the cup has a 10mm opening use at least 10 liters of gas.
If it's 12mm use 12 liters
@@michaelszczys8316 also penetration is different......
Other welders always try to find fault with your work, But they will never say "what a great weld job.
+Richard Nutting im a welder (3 years) and even i know i'm not the best, but im great. trust me i feel like punching anyone who thinks they're the best, so far every welder ive encountered always try to put others down, ego trip.
I.iN.T.J - And depending on where you work and what your welding , the bead gets primed and painted and nobody realy see's your work correct ? I just started welding and work with an experienced welder and I ask for advise to improve , as soon as the ego kicks in I walk away . Plus if your welding like exhaust systems under a car or what not , who is going to see or judge if your beads are perfect ?
I.iN.T.J - Hey I'm just saying that there are the internet experts , and the ones who realy know what they are doing . Since we are on the net , and we are only reading ones words an we realy don't know if what they are saying is true .
I.iN.T.J - I already can it's pretty easy
I.iN.T.J - When a video starts with , I'm not an experienced welder . But hey at least they are trying right ? I don't see Alot of videos by these internet experts claiming they have 30+ years experience . Plus what makes one an " expert " at any given field when are updates on technology and there is always something new to learn
I am just starting out and know nothing. I am English and find the comments by Lee Riddiough rather shameful. No-one from one particular country is the best, everyone is different. We all strive to do the best we can. Arrogance = Ignorance if you ask me. To the poster thank you for the video, I shall try this method. :-)
I MIG welded (GMAW) short and spray for 12 years. Now I Stick & Flux Core. Great video, good consistent techniques, good presentation and nice beads.
I like that kind of weave myself, it fills a wider gap and insures proper weld penetration....
You make some of the nicest welds I have ever seen. Like a robot!
The guys that criticize this guy should be making their own videos Because this guy is a good weldor.
I am tired of all these guy saying that it is never correct to weld down hill. That is but crap. If the employer wants it fast and pretty and the engineering says down hill is strong enough for the application then down hill it is! I have found that "never" is a big word. There are always exceptions to every rule.
B.J. Smith I'd agree, especially if the man running the gun is skilled and welding a correctly prepared joint
Exactly,Im combination welder and if machine is set right you run a good deep burn in bead down hill and look like it's flat welded and very strong.
Like I have said before, in the real world sometimes you have to stand on your head. Sometimes the only choice is welding downhill. So what? You do the best possible downhill.
I once operated a robot arm welder that welded seams on metal boxes. The only possible position was downhill welding with the gun itself pointing downhill. You would never do it that way by hand. I made it go the best I could get it. Worked just fine
I know nothing about welding (yet), so I appreciate the video. I always crack up at how quick people in the comments section are to spew hateful remarks at each other over the video content. If all these people are such experts, why are they here watching a how-to video in the first place? (Feel free to hurl insults at me for commenting.)
Ik I had practice yesterday after school I sucked today I got the hang of It takes practice so be patient I wish u the best of luck
+Jason Grady Things that interest people attract their attention. Practitioners are often fans of their field of endeavor too.
+Robert Watson Best way to learn is to do and constantly test yourself. Have pride and be willing to try different procedures. Nuke welders constantly test themselves. It keep them on top of there game. Do not allow yourself to be tided to just doing 1 or two types of welding. The more you learn the better you get. Different process test your skills and push you to improve. I have done welding for 42 years in Aviation, Cryogenics (Meaning tanks that hold liquid nitrogen, oxygen, and helium.) also done welding on flight simulators for Private as well as for the Government and for NASA. In my opinion never limit yourself. keep learning and enjoy what you do. From a (ferrous non-ferrous metal fusion specialist.) :)
I know m8 these so called experts probably dont even own a welder or have never welded anything in there sad lives
ide call bullshit on the 7018 not being used on the root as I have a 6 g T.S.S.A. 2 inch pipe ticket that was completely done with 7018 root to cap. I have also done testing for a company with 8018 root to cap as well the reason 6010 is used on the root is because it is such a fast flow and fast freeze process that allows you better consistant control for the root besides 60 series rods are not low hydrogen rods and are way more brittle than 70 series low hydrogen rods
709 dislikes are people who can't lay down a nice bead like that. 😂😂😂
I've watched nearly all this guy's videos and he will weld circles around u UA-cam backyard welders. Not to mention he's a badass teacher. He could weld a fart to a rainbow
Shane Harris 😅😂👍
It always cracks me up to see the YT vids “why welders never speak of this”! They think owning a cutoff disc and welding, stick or mig, in 1 second spots makes them a welder! This dude knows his stuff, and all his vids are spot on, no bullshit, straight to the point productions! As a 40+ year welder, certified (x-ray) to AWS D15.1 standard in SMAW & dual shielded GMAW on steel- 2G 3G & 4G unlimited thickness, and GMAW aluminum-all position - unlimited thickness, it doesn’t take long to pick out the imposters! This guys the real deal.
People like this guy makes people a good welder... going to school will have you all jacked up...🤷🏾♂️
I've been practicing my welding on some scrap metal I have sitting in my garage and just want to thank you for showing this technique. I feel like my welding has improved a lot just from seeing this.
I really liked this video. But sometimes I think that people comment on stuff just to be a douche. Just get over it. Jeeze. Good job, weldingtipsandtricks
I've never welded in my life but that seems like a great technique! Thanks, awesome video!
this guy is pretty darn good and i agree 100% with what he's saying.
Thanks as always. Second time through school for welding, first time was a wasted 4 months at a community college, this time its at Tulsa. Neither school is perfect but in the end its all in what you put into it. These videos from you really help thousands of students everyday. There are some real hacks posting weld videos all over UA-cam but you most definitely aren't one.
Thanks for the great tips! Damn those are some good looking welds.. i know what I'm going to try in the morning :-)
From watching your videos I noticed the distance you keep is very critical to keep the weld going smooth. I think if more people would watch more videos like yours they would see how easy it is when you see it done right and just duplicate what they see. I'm currently welding without my tip with flux core wire and from watching your videos my welds are working out great.
Don't weld...yet. Might someday, will be learning techniques here and elsewhere just in case the opportunity arises. Thanks for making it look easy even though it's not!
Nice nuts and bolts video. To add, pause more at the top or bottom to put more heat in the thicker material. To be a better welder learn to weld left or right handed. Believe me, it will make life easier. Finally, notice when he pulled the weld. The weld stood up a little more with a center ridge then the pushed weld. With steel you're ok but on aluminum pulling is not preferred, ever.
Many times the push method cannot be used. You have no choice but to drag the wire. Welder since 1963...
I've never welded but I really want to learn. In what situations wouldn't you be able to push the puddle along?
raginroadrunner thank u, any welder who said always push never pull isnt a welder they just watch to many videos. shit gets in the way, so often the situation is what dictates weather you push or pull. i guess if they cant push it they just dont weld it.
Thank you!DONK3YPUNCH33
These welds are as good as you can get, i know i have been welding for 50 years.
All you knockers here dont know what you are talking about.
Lets have a look at some of yours, by the way i am a panelbeater and welding light guage even butt welding and fusion welding with oxy and no filler rod.
If after 50 years you didnt know that this was in fact WRONG then now is the time to listen old man !
No filler ? lets hope your parent material holds up
I didnt say filler as bondo,look up fusion oxy welding without and rod.
Tell me what was Wrong in your comment.
Get a job welding things that have to be leak tested. That will make you good.
Learn how to run your welds together so they don’t leak at the joint, that will make you good.
Learn how to weld something so that after it is all welded and cooled it is the size and shape it is supposed to be. That will make you good
I was taught never to weave a root run due to less penetration. But I don't see anything wrong with what he did there! I'm sure there are always expectations (boom welding maybe). I think with welding, there is more than one way to skin a cat as well as people having their own personal technique. Cool vid :)
You are correct. If you whip or manipulate the puddle on a weld test or certification. You will fail. When xrayed you will see a sawtooth pattern in the weld that is prone to cracking
@@LabRat355 so the e tip is pointless then?
Just started a college welding course and the instructor told me I shouldn't need to be doing pig tails or U's because it's all about the penetration. He taught me that I should just go in a straight line and push the puddle where possible. Is this right or wrong or just a matter of preference?
Fusion is fusion no matter how you get there
Also just noticed this is a year old. Just sent this to my nephew who started welding school. Did this channel help?
Damn those are some clean welds
Beautiful beads. Thanks for the tip!
This looks great. I'm just getting started with my mig welder so this is the technique I'm going to try.
Thanks for the effort making this, I regularly might this way now and only thru trial and error did I stumble upon this technique. It is a great way to have professional looking welds especially when you don't weld daily to keep your skills sharp. I am a heavy diesel tech working on construction equipment and when I have to break out the not so current welding skills this style helps everytime. Cheers.
Thanks for sharing that nugget.
That is the way I have MIG welded for the past 20+ years. Since nobody taught me how to weld properly, I always figured I wasn't doing it correctly though it always worked good. After seeing this video, I feel much better about my welds.
Thanks for that.
I learned to weld watching a old guy that never would tell any one how he did anything. I never ask him about welding just if I could help him with anything. For a year or so he always said "Thanks I have this one under control." Then one day out of the blue he ak me to go get a bottle of Iodine out of his tool box and threw his keys at me. I am glad I had fast reflexes or I would have lost teeth. That day he told me hours worth of stuff as he kept putting iodine in a cast iron frame he was repairing. Years latter I put it to use repairing drill heads on a 10 inch well drill by putting all new teeth in. The Forman got mad because he thought someone bought new drills. Then everyone point at me and he was smiling like the cat from Alice. Thanks for the tips on the tips.....
Why would you put iodine in a cast iron frame?
I learned that technique back in high school and it worked great for me. Gives you great looking welds that hold up to your tests. In college I was questioned by an instructor about it and once he tested multiple welds that had been done that way he finally laid off me. Great video!!
I was taught this too by an "old timer" but it was when i went to college for welding that i was taught about how this method looks good and i still do this at home too but it IS NOT used for structural or anything requiring great penetration. What happens when you go back in the circle is the puddle gets cold and then you circle back into it pushing hot filler into a cold puddle.
I was taught zig zags with pauses at each point to build the puddle ( /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ ) as a preferred method as it keeps the puddle flowing and doesn't allow for any material to become cold.
I've learnt to be careful about the old timers tips. Once i was working at an automotive shop and i forget what i was doing but the head tech came up to me and said
"why are you doing it that way?"
so naturally i said "this is how i was taught??"
Then he said "Ohhh okay, well i have 28 years of experience and that's not how you do it"
Then i said "oh okay, the guy that taught me this way has about 35 years of experience"
Then he paused and said "......oh well tell him he's wrong"
Since then and including then i've worked at many shops, my advice is to earn as much as you can from different people and let that shape your own opinion as to why you do things your way. Never be ignorant and always look for a better way to do something. There's a thousand ways to skin a deer and they all work great, some work better for some people and not as good for others.
Thanks mate
Great advise! Thank you for the video!!
Yeah, but just a straight travel speed without all that "C" or circle motion will get the same results. I love a Mig gun.
Wow look at the penetration into both pieces being welded, the heat discolouring alone is as straight and true as the bead. Man i wish i could lay it down that nice, shop is too cheap for good equipment :(
I watched all of your videos before I went to school...I passed school for MIG,TIG and STICK with flying colors....and I wanna thank you for all your hard work in showing everything to do and how to do it. I took it all to heart and it impressed the instructors. Lol. 😎
Morning sir, I have a problem with alot of guys doing film on how to weld... I can weld most things and feel pretty good on the job itself... But!!! I know I am no welder and I can stick, mig, and tig buy again I am no welder.... I can make it look how ever one would want to want it... But still I am no welder, With about two years of schooling learning types of metal and gases, rods, filler types and why I might be a pretty good welder.... I know enough to see that you are a professional and have some faith in what you are trying to put out... My problem most of the people watching you on film see a good bead and think now that is how its done... Explain to them... learning to run a good bead on metal does not mean you can go and weld a spindle or cut a frame and weld it back to together.... I had a close friend killed on a construction job because the " the welder welded a man lift and it broke at 40 feet" ... My friend was just walking along the job site..... The welder did not take into the job of the two different types of metal and the outside weather being so cold..... It take so much more to being a welder than a bead that look good but we really have no idea of its strength..... good luck to all and there is nothing wrong not knowing, we just have to admit its a on going education to be a professional anything... Thanks and I look forward to more of your incite...
I dont know where you live, but here in Norway you are not allowed to weld anything that has with human safty to do, unless you are an educated welder. Cranes,lifts,carframes etc. The welds also have to be shot with radiation to see if the welds are good or bad. They can look good, but you cant see inside the welds. It does not matter if you have been welding for 15 years. Safty first.
Sorry for your loss! May your friend rest in peace!
Midwest, Chicago....Cold winters.... Yes ANSI says every time you weld on a man made life it must be x rayed and tested..... You think it gets done.... not...... Jody does try to point out try to know what you are doing before you do it but there are guys on here that are dangerous... We cheaping any skilled person when we we think we can do things that took others years to do.... But I retired now... I do not have to worrk about such things, but I do....
Roger Fossette ^^^ THIS ^^^Words of wisdom.
When I took welding classes, my old-timer teacher insisted the bead be embossed on top of the joint. Also, the rings should be very close together. Debossed beads like those in the video were considered sloppy. Is this just personal preference?
Im using 100 co2 in class and cant get a flat bead pulling but pushing work just fine. Are the settings the same?
This is how I learned to mig weld, I now use a stitch 95% of the time. Beautiful looking welds and walking out of the puddle and coming back helps dig deep in front of the puddle and let’s the puddle freeze a bit before washing back over it. You have to be careful in over head as sometimes I have found that the pause required for this technique can cause the puddle to sag too much.
My shop teacher taught me that Near 40 years ago. But it's as true now as it was then.
i have to get a welding machine because i am rusty
I prefer the push technique, I like a flush weld.
Thank you , a guy in SC taught me too. Mr. Me . I try to teach but some never catch on.
I are SC taught myself. Yep it's one of them trades where all the teaching in the world is some help. It's when a person goes " ah ha" the puddle.........
Mig welding. So this is how you make a Cold War Soviet fighter jet!!!!!!!
Thanks dad
It's crazy being new at welding and reading through some of these comments. Push don't pull! Pull don't push! It doesn't really matter, do whatever feels better! And everyone making a statement feels that they are 100% correct! Some are bashing the video and some are praising it. Makes it difficult for a novice welder to know what information he should take in and what to discard.
I personally find the left to right pull method the best no doubt ill be corrected by someone whos never welded a thing in there whole life
Depends if your left or right handed. Never welded. As an artist its easier and more natural to extend your arm away from your heart than it is to bring it towards it during prolonged work. But what do I know.
coltin engle Thanks for your honesty lol!
Push > pull unless u have to.
i learned to always push when using a mig gun from my welding instructor
Lovely line waw 🔔
32 ripples per inch , pipe welders dream.
I am an electrician, in my eyes (and my heart, ofcourse) this is absolutely state of the art.
Cheers for your
I'm going to start practicing mig welding soon so this video helps massively. Concise and straight to the point.
I like to start with a 'W" when i do this so my welds always say "weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
it makes my day more fun
That's hilarious! I enjoyed that one!
People make fun of things learned on UA-cam….all I can say is I’ve learned a lot from watching this man…..what a true gem to the art of welding. Not only is he a master of the trade, but he can communicate and teach it with no ego, he never boasts or brags. He’s helped me in many ways and he has no clue I even exist. He’s a good human being 👍
Nice job! What are the welder settings and gauge of the metal?
Thanks!
My instructors have basically said that this method is a sin and we should focus on the steady constant weld. And they are really old school, to the point of sometimes almost being outdated, expect my primary instructor who is basically up with the latest and the greatest.
Only place I been allowed to use the loop technique was in a filling job that wasn't structural, other than that we must adhere strictly to the ISO guidelines, PWPS and WPS.
Straight line welds have less penetration/strength
You'll be a better welder because of it. Thats the NASA way of welding, hot and fast. I've made it work quite well in many applications, though I will say that if you "weave" correctly, you still get an unscalloped bead with uniform toes and penetration. If you ever look at the back of a woven bead, often the penetration is wishy washy, whereas a stringer will be uniform, easier to clean if you're back welding, and some say (myself included) under less stress.
actually this is the way i obtained a good result for the first time while learning but my teachers once saw it and told me is useless to do that for a straight line, anyway i still use it expecially in the corners...
Could this technique also be applied to stick, I usually do it with 7018 and it works just fine but i'm not sure if it is the entirely correct way to do it, could you also just drag the stick in whatever direction that you are welding and yield a similar looking bead?
with 7018, no occil is needed, really use a triangle technique
FREQUENCYZX11
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I just drag with the 7018
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Good stuff boss
Awesome thanks
This is the first time I've seen someone suggest a welding pattern, then _actually do it and back it up with the example._
Well done, very helpful. Thanks!
1st off, like the video/site, nice work. :)
2nd: Why would there be any argument over Push vs Pull???
Each has it's own purpose, usage & place.
& any welder worth his salt should know this already but...
1: Pulling is best used when fusing thicker material
[or anywhere you want to maximize your penetration & the higher crown is not an issue or impediment]
2: Pushing will give you a lower crown[flatter weld] & about 25% less penetration
***Less... NOT NONE!***
- I tend to mostly push when on fusing material 1/4" or thinner.
& I tend to pull on material 3/8" & thicker [to ensure proper fusion by maximizing penetration into the parent metals]
*note 1*
Keep in mind anything past 5 degrees of straight is either push or pull*
*note 2*
If you want more penetration [when pulling] Set your gun/whip angle at 30 degrees, also, your gun/whip inclination will be between 45 deg & 15 deg either way, depending on the type of joint.
*** For reference, I am a Red-Seal Journeyman Welder, Trained at N.A.I.T. here in Northern Alberta... [Qualified for every type of welding other than "B" Pressure].
I have 12 years experience as a custom metal fabricator, & am proficient in all welding processes from Oxy/Fuel to TIG, but my specialty is GMAW & TIG ***
Hope this help clear up any debate over the "issue"
Cheers, Wrath.
what temp and wire speed is good I failed a mig test even though the weld looked beautiful but did not penetrate
slickrickthereal
I need more info than that man...
1: what is the material & how thick is it?
2: what is your welder set-up?
What wire thickness? what gas are you using?
3: what position are you testing in? (Uphand, flat, horizontal?)
I have used this type of weave before but I don't see much benefit over wip and pause
I agree with this.. doing nice little circles may give a 'pretty' bead, but unless done by a competent welder, can also leave undercut at the toe, which is a stress raiser and a fail in any test. The controlled and steady whip and pause.. from one side to the other helps to ensure crater filling and avoids any undercut, especially when in a positional weldment. Too many are concerned by the simple appearance of the bead. Although I do agree that a good weld usually also has a nice bead, but the 'niceness' should be secondary to the functionality of the weld
I like to use the circles for
ChrisD4335 whip and pause is mostly for stick welding or smaw sheilded metal arc welding using a 6010 6011 or 6013 electrode
justin estell no Justin that is not accurate at all, you are defiantly not a welder.
ChrisD4335 excuse me i am certified for flat and horizontal welding and going to college for welding so yes i know the 6010 is a fast freeze electrode that is a whipping or whip and pause method i
Hello I was just wounder what your setting are at?
Spot on! Exactly the technique I figured out for myself after many years of welding. It was an adaptation or progession of techniques used for solid wire pipe butts and vertical up fillets. Gun angle; push gives a wider, flatter, shallower bead. Drag gives a narrow, high, deep bead.
you must spend two thirds of your time on the bottom and one third at the top of the joint or you will have cold lap. this short circuit arc is cold by nature and you must also be on on the front edge of the puddle and never in the middle of the puddle or again cold lap will be the result.
Ok Mr welder show us one of your videos so we can see how much of a badass you are like u say
you guys been breathing too many welding fumes
You should always push your weld, if you pull you take more of a chance of contaminating the weld. Ive seen it happen many times and I've been a welder
for 42 years. The process does mater.
+R Reichel approved
You are right sir. Pushing the weld pool in Mig welding is best. A vertical down is usually pulled down. Flux core can be pushed or pulled. Innersheild should be pulledor dragged along. I've been a Boilermaker 1st class welder for near on twenty five years and have been taught by all sorts of ol school tradies. Listening and learning from them all has got me where I am today. Too many armchair experts giving opinions as usual.
+Customwinder 1 i agree with you its important to keep any contamination out of the weld
Thats it mate contamination means failures . Especially in coded welding. Bad things can happen if a weld fails.
yep iv'e seen it happen
Myrtle beach sc here
You’re the old timer now! Thank you very much for the tip!
you should never pull a weld. I'm a structual engineer here in the UK and if I was caught pulling a weld I'd get fired on the spot. it's not structual sound.
I can weld anything....from a broken heart....to the crack of dawn!!! Speaking of cracks, before welding a crack, or torn weld, drill both ends out, then weld, otherwise, weld will repeat crack. It's like plug welding both ends of fault!
I'm an old timer, so take notes...whippersnappers!!
Yep, My old man taught me that as well. drill the end unless you want the crack to continue... i have to drill and weld a crack in the door of my Truck...
it is metal active gas MAG, not metal inert gas MIG. and if you do a destructive test (break test) you will fail.
stfu.. Jody knows what he's doing!!
+Chuy RDZ. lmao omfg funny as hell man
Tim Lassche BULLSHIT.
pc565gilmer1 pc565 sorry for that I called it Metal active gas, because thats how we call it in the EN book for europe the exact name for america is GMAW, Gas metal arc welding. But if its bullshit, please explain me then.
you are right, i thought the same.
asalaam Aliakum Rahman tu Allah
( means I'm wishing you good tidings, loves, peace, mercy n blessings from Almighty God )
wow you are an excellent welder.. Awesome!
have a blessed day. .
Salaam peace
MIG of peace
wa 3likoum a salam w rahmat a alah w baraktouch
JESUS CHRIST IS LORD SAVIOR AND OUR LOVING GOD WHO DOESNT TEACH DEATH BUT COMPASSION allah is satan
@Adrian Verhalen Jesus Adrian, not again. Back in the box... I SAID BACK IN THE BOX. Sorry folks, he just sticks to whatever he hits, my apologies.
The end of alla is is revealed in Revelation 20 but I hope it's not yours as well-------
Why is arc blow not a problem with dc like it seems to be with smaw?
I'm a welding profesional for more than 10 years. And this video is definitely one of the most realistic and professional video I came across on UA-cam.
The Warriors blew a 3-1 lead in the NBA Finals on Father's day
Cousin Chris so who is asking
Cousin Chris you cant blow a 3-1 lead in one day.
Hobby welding only.Structural use stringers please.
Don't understand the thumbs down from anyone, took my 1st pipe test in 9/20/79, almost 40yrs in the Trade, you young welders, listen to EVERYONE who is willing to show you or help you in this Trade, matters not what weld process, learn all you can adout changing molecular structure with heat and make your next weld better than the one you just made. Always be Welder Proud and not a Dick!
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I am no great welder by any means, but I thought that's what you were supposed to do......Unless I am just tacking something in place, I always do little circles.
Any suggestions on an affordable welder I could use on things like 1/4" plate or possibly on an axle. I currently do not know how to but would like to learn so that eventually I can start doing my own welding on my buggy
Ok, I wanna mig weld. What is a good welder to get to start out and keep going? But not a Home Depot piece of shit. Lots respect for these guys that are trying to share knowledge also. Thanks.
What wire are you using sir?
If I ever did a weld like that you can come and take me Lord, my life will be fulfilled.
t like your style man. you know a shit ton about the industry, and you always approach the audience with respect. I wish you would have been around when I learned how to weld...well 25 years in and I learn every day.
This is what I naturally did when I started welding.... always seemed to make a nice bead and it has held everything I've ever welded just fine.
Just give the old timer his props on a gorgeous stack and be on your way lol. To many primadonnas in here that must stand at a table to work that will argue push pull. You need to be a f****** contortionist to be in the field 9 times out of 10 and dont have that luxury. Just get it done and by the way your already over hours....whats talking so long?