I know there are currently 2 more vids of this, but for everyone else with the hunger complaint: If the group chef actually does his job and makes soup for the group, hunger and thirst are no issues anymore. You get buffs that you get way less Hunger and thirst + other buffs depending on the soup
personally i don't really get the complaints about the survival mechanics being too intrusive. not only can you stock up on supplies before heading out to a new area, but said area almost always has a variety of facilities specifically designed to cater to said mechanics; i.e. there's always vending machines with food and drinks, bathrooms with toilets, and sinks / toilets / fountains with water to clean yourself
It is, they are too busy just being UA-camrs and not really engaging with the game, you can make your character trait require 20% less food, and a bunch of stuff and get better food, these guys aren't doing anything
Been playing this with friends. This game is honestly a ton of fun. I bought it for Half-Life nostalgia and stuck around for genuinely well designed survival game.
In which Vingle spends more time _with_ broken legs than without. Also in which Binple repeatedly dies due entirely to his own hubris in completely preventable ways, including and especially on purpose, as a "joke" (and then complains that he has to re-gather his dropped items and pathfind his way back to the group).
"you know that a game is badly designed when you'd rather die than have to eat, drink or sleep" my brother, there's infinite respawning food and water in vending machines and it takes 5 seconds to sleep at any couch
@@carsonmiller1359 except that it is, go to a portal world (which reset every 3 days), get some money, it also drops from military dudes and is found throughout the lab in both lockers and filing cabinets
The stanley parable ultra deluxe has permanently implanted itself in my brain. I can’t hear the word “content” without thinking “gimme the content, stanley”
Aw man, if only there was a version of Abiotic Factor without all the survival stuff that was just about exploring a massive facility during a disaster and shooting aliens with cool guns.
"food is annoying mechanic" in the end there is oof I get where they see that but like every dead alien is food, and for the last hours non of them ever butcher and cook the hundreds alien they killed. Its Survival game my man, preparation is key, just like in Zomboid and lots of them.
It amuses me when they talk about wanting to play Zomboid of all games while bitching about this game's relatively simple survival mechanics. Zomboid being a game that skill checks you constantly and will punish you severely when you fail it, lol. Unlike this game where death fixes all problems with the minor inconvenience of walking over to your bag.
I would like to apologize to vod watches and chat for sparking Grey Leno womb tattoo and making love remarks. In my defense, he is television's #1 sex symbol.
3:14:55 A large part of why I'm enjoying watching is because it's enjoysble to see Vin's immersement or entrallment towards any game. Sometimes it's nice to sit back and enjoy the story/ gameplay with more concentration.
The problem with the game isn't that it has survival mechanics (that's the point of the game) the problem is that it's too generous with respawns and your character is too flimsy. It's too "Planetside" eqsue where dying is just a mechanic.
Oh boy, the return of: Vinny plays an open world co-op multiplayer survival game with a group of people and then runs off on his own and gets himself killed over and over again because he main characters and has poor communication/teamwork skills. And then while he's alone he misses out on the collective knowledge and advice and assistance of other players, dies a bunch and spends a ton of time retrieving his lost items, and his level stagnates while everyone else power levels together.
To be fair to Vinny, he tried multiple times to get people to join him for exploration or recovery and was shot down or ignored for most of those. It seems that everyone alternated between groups and solo regularly, and Vinny was just out of phase with that cycle.
My favorite is the "my legs are broken again" every time he breaks a leg, after doing absolutely nothing to try and avoid breaking his legs. It's almost like he deliberately tries to break his legs all the time.
its a genuine criticism of the genre. the fun is in building systems to keep a bar from going red, and once you solve that the game is basically over. very few games manage to make survival mechanics into meaningful progression.
@@entryplugged2068 survival mechanics aren't there to be part of a meaningful progression, they are there to induce fear in the early game and discourage cockiness in the late game
It does appear to be a problem with this game because it seems to be much easier, and resource efficient, to just off yourself and respawn rather than engage with the survival mechanics.
None of you actually sit down and pay attention while watching this, right? I personally just play it in the background because it's the ambience is cozy and literally nothing is happening and when I come back everyone once in a while he's either drifting off by himself and dying or trying to craft a splint for his broken leg I couldn't imagine watching this because of the game
Nothing like watching Vinny be the most scatter brained streamer on twitch. Everyone is crafting cool stuff and progressing and he's just running around repairing his knife and every now and then scrolling through the crafting table at light speed not even absorbing what hes looking at. Or he's frustratingly talking about needing power cells and then staring at one on a desk for like 3 minutes straight and not even registering its there
In regards to the convo near the end about survival/crafting mechanics, my main gripe is how often those mechanics are added simply for the sake of having them, they just end up being unnecessary upkeep and don't usually add anything to the gameplay, they just keep power flowing to the treadmill. Like, I can't tell you how many times I've passed on a game where the starting condition is something along the lines of "punch rocks, chop trees, and roast lizards for a few dozen hours and then you get to make/do something cool" because I've done it a thousand times before A lot of those mechanics are holdovers from way back when survival-crafting games were new and everyone was riding the high of simply being able to _make_ things in a video game, but over time, most implementations have really just devolved into busy work. Like, I'd much rather play a game about being an astronaut stranded on an alien planet where my character just has a high-tech suit that provides infinite sustenance if it meant that the actual gameplay had more focus and intent. You want me to investigate nearby distress beacons and scavenge for parts? Fine, but let me come out the other side of it with a noteworthy equipment upgrade that continues to be useful for the remainder of the game or a memorable exploration/survival/horror experience rather than just finding some scrap metal or a blueprint for a space canteen that holds 4 sips of space water The genre could really do with a refresher on what actually makes for a compelling gameplay experience, imo
If your main complaint about a genre is whining about a key element of said genre, it clearly isn't for you. The ego and narcissism in thinking an entire genre needs to change to suit your whims, lol.
I think a lot of it is a streaming problem maybe. Like they can't or don't want to take the five minutes to think and learn the game and the time to take to actually make sure they have the resources they need. Because they have to constantly keep jingling keys in the chat's face, I feel like a lot of them just want to wander around and go on adventures and cavemanning through the game for content and to make sure they aren't missing stuff in the game by standing by the stoves for like ten minutes. So because no one was willing or able to do their share of the work and instead just beat stuff up with broken pipes and knives with no armour they have nothing.
@@Americanbadashh Let’s face it, these aren’t the guys to watch for competent gameplay. The amount of times Vinny has blinded things used to actually make me stop watching when I was younger. We’re here for their personalities.
@@bobbobberson4295 No, they only wanted to engage in this experience because it was half-life adjacent. They didn't want to play the game like a survival horror as it was intended. They're going to miss a bunch of really good moments in this game because they are choosing to not engage in the survival aspect and just write it off as "bad design". Mono is the MOST annoying about this since he fails to understand the most basic of preparation in this game. Water and food is so easy to come by what with all the vending machines and water coolers you find constantly, but none of them think of that.
Streamers: some of the systems are not up to our preferences therefore they are issues Chat: provides solutions and why the system might not be faulty, just caters to different preferences Streamers: yeah, it's not even worth arguing with chat because they have their own preferences it's coming off a tad tonedeaf; i do understand that intuitiveness is important, but it's also important to have introspection on what may just be a subjective opinion, especially if this far in, they haven't even engaged with basic cooking mechanics like soup, which not only makes the hunger/thirst system fairly easy to deal with, it also provides bonuses valheim has a serious issue with sorting becoming a complete drag midway through the game, abiotic has a quick-sorting solution presented to the player just about the time they need it [i do love the streams mind you, they are a lot of fun to watch]
They bumble and brute force their way through a game and then moan and bitch about systems they haven't bothered to learn, as if the system is the problem and not their own stupidity. The fact this group is so disorganized that several have guns and Vinny is still running around with a knife (while breaking his leg by jumping from heights) this far in is telling, on top of nobody knowing how to fucking cook. The simps in these comments defending and advocating this braindead behavior are obnoxious as fuck. Playing a survival crafting game and then whining about survival crafting being in the game is peak stupidity and/or retardation. Especially in a game that lets you customize the survival elements to your wants. As I said in another comment, the amount of ego and narcissism in thinking an entire game (and even genre) should cater to your specific demands is insane.
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My brother in science, you have got to stop making 12-foot drops while carrying furniture
"Dave, can you say words?"
"I'm positively gooning over here."
"Oh ... Maybe you should stop saying words."
lol
I for one think it's extremely realistic that Vinny's legs break every time he jumps off his garage, the man is 40
Welcome back to Vinny obsessively washing himself with the group's drinking water and flaccid knife combat, hell yeah
I know there are currently 2 more vids of this, but for everyone else with the hunger complaint: If the group chef actually does his job and makes soup for the group, hunger and thirst are no issues anymore. You get buffs that you get way less Hunger and thirst + other buffs depending on the soup
RIP Breast Friends Arc.
Thanks for the mammaries.
we will always be brudders in udders
glad vinnie's top surgery went well
Just like that song by Fall Out Boy.
"Thanks for the mammaries
Thanks for the mammaries."
@@EmperorSigismund See? He taste like you, but sweeter.
@@painrelief3441 I always thought it was "I saw that shit you said on Twitter."
personally i don't really get the complaints about the survival mechanics being too intrusive. not only can you stock up on supplies before heading out to a new area, but said area almost always has a variety of facilities specifically designed to cater to said mechanics; i.e. there's always vending machines with food and drinks, bathrooms with toilets, and sinks / toilets / fountains with water to clean yourself
he is trying to play it like half life. not much you can do if he just refuses to learn the game mechanics.
Exactly. I feel like a lot of their complaints about that stuff is "skill issue" territory.
It is, they are too busy just being UA-camrs and not really engaging with the game, you can make your character trait require 20% less food, and a bunch of stuff and get better food, these guys aren't doing anything
Been playing this with friends. This game is honestly a ton of fun. I bought it for Half-Life nostalgia and stuck around for genuinely well designed survival game.
I'm amazed that it never occurred to Vinny once to keep a spare broken weapon to open boxes with.
I don't think Vinny knows he has a health bar and his health isn't just decided by the paperdoll in the bottom left
You must be new here. Understanding game mechanics is something vinny does not do.
@@elitebrothers4256 My brother in christus, i am a viewer of like 10 years. He can be surpringly aware at times
Nothing quite like watching Vinny repair his equipment by taking all of the plastic and metal scrap, only to forget to put the scrap back.
Vinny sometimes is like the suicidal objective in the annoying escort quest
They should make it so that if you stand on a rolling office chair it rolls away from you and you break a bone.
The complaint about food and water is easily fixed by SOUPMAXING
In which Vingle spends more time _with_ broken legs than without.
Also in which Binple repeatedly dies due entirely to his own hubris in completely preventable ways, including and especially on purpose, as a "joke" (and then complains that he has to re-gather his dropped items and pathfind his way back to the group).
"you know that a game is badly designed when you'd rather die than have to eat, drink or sleep" my brother, there's infinite respawning food and water in vending machines and it takes 5 seconds to sleep at any couch
the money to use the vending machines is not infinite
@@carsonmiller1359 except that it is, go to a portal world (which reset every 3 days), get some money, it also drops from military dudes and is found throughout the lab in both lockers and filing cabinets
The stanley parable ultra deluxe has permanently implanted itself in my brain. I can’t hear the word “content” without thinking “gimme the content, stanley”
Vinny really needs to play EYE Divine Cybermancy after this. His legs will always be ok in that game.
You gain brouzouf for this comment
Aw man, if only there was a version of Abiotic Factor without all the survival stuff that was just about exploring a massive facility during a disaster and shooting aliens with cool guns.
I saw a review mention you can disable survival stuff in settings and adjust enemy difficulty to pretend you're playing a new Half-Life
ahh yes half of the life variety featuring john freeman
@@pantelis5332
That's really cool of the devs
@@pantelis5332When the mods start coming we'll all have a field day with this
"food is annoying mechanic" in the end there is oof
I get where they see that but like every dead alien is food, and for the last hours non of them ever butcher and cook the hundreds alien they killed.
Its Survival game my man, preparation is key, just like in Zomboid and lots of them.
Exactly.
also infinitely respawning vending machine food and soda
It amuses me when they talk about wanting to play Zomboid of all games while bitching about this game's relatively simple survival mechanics. Zomboid being a game that skill checks you constantly and will punish you severely when you fail it, lol. Unlike this game where death fixes all problems with the minor inconvenience of walking over to your bag.
9 times. So far as I’m watching this Vincent has forgotten fall damage is a thing 9 times.
If you take a shot every time Vinny gets a leg injury, you will quickly find yourself either at the hospital or the morgue.
Or the hospital morgue
I love the “a subnutica game but on land” I’m now referring to all survival games as subnutica-like
I'd say it has more of a Raft vibe than a Subnautica vibe. Combat, durability, materials consist mostly of trash and scrap, and it is multiplayer
Subnut
supernutica
@@deamooz9810 I think they are making a joke
@@Americanbadashh Us?
There's something about this game that makes it feel like an adult swim show a lot of the time.
Just wait until charborg gets a hold of this game
@@redwiltshire1816I can't wait to see into what kind of ridiculous situations he'll get himself into.
Middle age crisis survival
sealab 2021
Yes that must be it.
they need to tune the cooking noise down, every time vinny cooks it's like my brain is full of pop rocks
Can’t wait for part 3 if Vinny plays it again
I would like to apologize to vod watches and chat for sparking Grey Leno womb tattoo and making love remarks.
In my defense, he is television's #1 sex symbol.
1:55:00
That was a really touching show of appreciation because it really is nice when Vin reads aloud.
He's a great storyteller.
32:30
That was a really funny subtle joke made all the better with the off-in-the-distance effect that's done really well in this game.
3:14:55
A large part of why I'm enjoying watching is because it's enjoysble to see Vin's immersement or entrallment towards any game.
Sometimes it's nice to sit back and enjoy the story/ gameplay with more concentration.
seeing leg injury enjoy this game brings me joy
Mono doing the "agh-- not now, not now!" from don't pee yourself was great
Many 4's on the video length. Very unlucky.
*throws a 四 at you* 👻 BOO!!!!
@@citrus_sweet Ah shi-t
Abiotic Factor Part 2: MY LEG!
The problem with the game isn't that it has survival mechanics (that's the point of the game) the problem is that it's too generous with respawns and your character is too flimsy.
It's too "Planetside" eqsue where dying is just a mechanic.
The Planetside comparison completely invalidated whatever weird point you were trying to make, lol.
They really got to coordinate and stick together better, it feels like they got like nothing done because they keep splitting up then getting ganked
Oh boy, the return of:
Vinny plays an open world co-op multiplayer survival game with a group of people and then runs off on his own and gets himself killed over and over again because he main characters and has poor communication/teamwork skills.
And then while he's alone he misses out on the collective knowledge and advice and assistance of other players, dies a bunch and spends a ton of time retrieving his lost items, and his level stagnates while everyone else power levels together.
Love the coasting and belligerence, expecting everyone else to just "deliver" the content while not engaging and observing. "how do i drink water"
I’m glad someone else sees it
To be fair to Vinny, he tried multiple times to get people to join him for exploration or recovery and was shot down or ignored for most of those. It seems that everyone alternated between groups and solo regularly, and Vinny was just out of phase with that cycle.
My favorite is the "my legs are broken again" every time he breaks a leg, after doing absolutely nothing to try and avoid breaking his legs. It's almost like he deliberately tries to break his legs all the time.
i felt like that was sneeg they had to go in his chat to get him to come make progress with everyone else
congrats on the top surgery dawg
The episode in which Vinny gains so much Brouzouf.
Your legs are OK.
Bullshit! Ultra-failed attack!
4:17:59
>playing survival game
>complaining about needing to survive
its a genuine criticism of the genre. the fun is in building systems to keep a bar from going red, and once you solve that the game is basically over. very few games manage to make survival mechanics into meaningful progression.
@@entryplugged2068 survival mechanics aren't there to be part of a meaningful progression, they are there to induce fear in the early game and discourage cockiness in the late game
@@Americanbadashh a game mechanic that is there to waste your time and stop you from playing is a bad mechanic
It’s literally modular too. You can just edit the settings to change this.
It does appear to be a problem with this game because it seems to be much easier, and resource efficient, to just off yourself and respawn rather than engage with the survival mechanics.
Think Vin will figure out he can shift click to move items?
None of you actually sit down and pay attention while watching this, right?
I personally just play it in the background because it's the ambience is cozy and literally nothing is happening
and when I come back everyone once in a while he's either drifting off by himself and dying or trying to craft a splint for his broken leg
I couldn't imagine watching this because of the game
1:53:55
The look to Vin then back to the already dead alien 😂
Break a leg, Vinny.
1:02:50
I love the dynamic this group has. They all vibe together so well.
Of all the streamers out there, Vinny's always been my favorite to come back to when I have free time and don't feel like doing anything else.
Tomato mentioned! I heard it!
Moar Brits, heck yea! jollybenjitomatosauce 20XX
(Austria doesn't exist)
Interactions between vinny and jolly are priceless
Literally just finished watching the last part XD
first part was a lot of fun and part 2 right when i want something to watch, awesome
New here. Ive never seen someone just not learn how to avoid fall damage.
Binty craves snapped limbs.
Vinny "Muh legs" Vinesauce
17:30
This is such a comfortable conversation to listen to.
Thanks guys,
46:40 THE DEAD LINGER?? Anyone else remember this game? Hoooly that was jarring to see, used to play v011 like 10 years ago. Damn.
Some of the same devs, but a different company
Playing through this with a friend atm, such a great game
1:42:50
Even despite doing mininal - anything else - for so long they are still so entertaining to listen to.
Nothing like watching Vinny be the most scatter brained streamer on twitch. Everyone is crafting cool stuff and progressing and he's just running around repairing his knife and every now and then scrolling through the crafting table at light speed not even absorbing what hes looking at. Or he's frustratingly talking about needing power cells and then staring at one on a desk for like 3 minutes straight and not even registering its there
Dude, why is the dehydrated icon so terrifying? That alone brings the horror into survival horror
1h38mins a wild Dave Oshry, NOT doing a Big John?? There better be a Big John, or maybe tiny one at least?
Your armor's durability goes down by 10% on death
In regards to the convo near the end about survival/crafting mechanics, my main gripe is how often those mechanics are added simply for the sake of having them, they just end up being unnecessary upkeep and don't usually add anything to the gameplay, they just keep power flowing to the treadmill. Like, I can't tell you how many times I've passed on a game where the starting condition is something along the lines of "punch rocks, chop trees, and roast lizards for a few dozen hours and then you get to make/do something cool" because I've done it a thousand times before
A lot of those mechanics are holdovers from way back when survival-crafting games were new and everyone was riding the high of simply being able to _make_ things in a video game, but over time, most implementations have really just devolved into busy work. Like, I'd much rather play a game about being an astronaut stranded on an alien planet where my character just has a high-tech suit that provides infinite sustenance if it meant that the actual gameplay had more focus and intent. You want me to investigate nearby distress beacons and scavenge for parts? Fine, but let me come out the other side of it with a noteworthy equipment upgrade that continues to be useful for the remainder of the game or a memorable exploration/survival/horror experience rather than just finding some scrap metal or a blueprint for a space canteen that holds 4 sips of space water
The genre could really do with a refresher on what actually makes for a compelling gameplay experience, imo
If your main complaint about a genre is whining about a key element of said genre, it clearly isn't for you. The ego and narcissism in thinking an entire genre needs to change to suit your whims, lol.
Hell Yeah Part 2
2:35:15
That's another good one right there... Lotta good bits in this season of Vinesucc PissSauce..
1:47:55
Some of these moments 😅
Chat rips "I dont have any friends" new vinny quote
(90% chance to break)
1:17:33 「 Switch, ON!」
30:45 office space
What is bro doing half the time.
Their complaints about food this game are so invalid and this game is super generous with resources. They just want easy mode unlocked
I think a lot of it is a streaming problem maybe. Like they can't or don't want to take the five minutes to think and learn the game and the time to take to actually make sure they have the resources they need. Because they have to constantly keep jingling keys in the chat's face, I feel like a lot of them just want to wander around and go on adventures and cavemanning through the game for content and to make sure they aren't missing stuff in the game by standing by the stoves for like ten minutes. So because no one was willing or able to do their share of the work and instead just beat stuff up with broken pipes and knives with no armour they have nothing.
@@bobbobberson4295 If they were concerned for chat they wouldn't have spent an hour doing nothing in base lol
@@Americanbadashh Let’s face it, these aren’t the guys to watch for competent gameplay. The amount of times Vinny has blinded things used to actually make me stop watching when I was younger. We’re here for their personalities.
@@bobbobberson4295
No, they only wanted to engage in this experience because it was half-life adjacent. They didn't want to play the game like a survival horror as it was intended. They're going to miss a bunch of really good moments in this game because they are choosing to not engage in the survival aspect and just write it off as "bad design". Mono is the MOST annoying about this since he fails to understand the most basic of preparation in this game. Water and food is so easy to come by what with all the vending machines and water coolers you find constantly, but none of them think of that.
1:10:44 I for one look forward to Training Sauce 2027
if you turn the couch into a bed you get more sleep. i recommend it
This is my favorite playthrough on the channel so far
Vinny never played Greener Grass Awaits right? His relationship with golf would be funny in this golf horror game.
Guess Vinny hasn't, but Jolly has.
2:37:15
It's alright Vin I liked that McDanuuje bit,
also make pots gather dirty water and cook it to make a ton of water
And spend %60 of your time boiling water? Nah. A whole pot of dirty water boils down into 1/5 of a pot of clean water
3:13:20
Shoutout to Australia
LETS GOOO!!!!
Playing it atm and the Syberian line played right before mine did haha
They need to try Barotrauma
Vinny is the red shirt of scientists
I hope these streams become a 7 days to die type obsession
1:06:10
This was comical to me.
Poor Vin 😂
blees binny blay duh wheol gaem bleez
that cooking noise hurts my teeth
My guy you're playing a 36 year old doctorate holder with gout. Mr. Mirror's Edge he ain't.
3:18:27 Vinny gets unlucky
Bro needs to lock in.
Vinny will stop trying to platform by part 13
are their arms too short or are their torsos too long
Listening to this video is wild
Not watching - only listening.
Hi binny bine sarce
Viddy Play Shuut
congrats on ur top surgery
May 6st
Streamers: some of the systems are not up to our preferences therefore they are issues
Chat: provides solutions and why the system might not be faulty, just caters to different preferences
Streamers: yeah, it's not even worth arguing with chat because they have their own preferences
it's coming off a tad tonedeaf; i do understand that intuitiveness is important, but it's also important to have introspection on what may just be a subjective opinion, especially if this far in, they haven't even engaged with basic cooking mechanics like soup, which not only makes the hunger/thirst system fairly easy to deal with, it also provides bonuses
valheim has a serious issue with sorting becoming a complete drag midway through the game, abiotic has a quick-sorting solution presented to the player just about the time they need it
[i do love the streams mind you, they are a lot of fun to watch]
They bumble and brute force their way through a game and then moan and bitch about systems they haven't bothered to learn, as if the system is the problem and not their own stupidity. The fact this group is so disorganized that several have guns and Vinny is still running around with a knife (while breaking his leg by jumping from heights) this far in is telling, on top of nobody knowing how to fucking cook.
The simps in these comments defending and advocating this braindead behavior are obnoxious as fuck. Playing a survival crafting game and then whining about survival crafting being in the game is peak stupidity and/or retardation. Especially in a game that lets you customize the survival elements to your wants.
As I said in another comment, the amount of ego and narcissism in thinking an entire game (and even genre) should cater to your specific demands is insane.
you’re angry at something that happened 5 months ago, go do something
Breast bros is gone
1:17:23
😂
really gooning for hades 2