Due to Mcdojos, people forget TKD was battle tested during the Vietnam war. Especially in the battle of Battle of Trà Bình, where Korean marines engaged in Hand-to-hand combat with overwhelming VC forces. Old school TKD with Combat boots can and have killed people.
Its not even just the kicks, I remember a story (I think it was on 1000 ways to die) about an elderly woman who happened to be a long time student of TKD was mugged but killed her attacker with a quick fist strike to the throat. TKD might not be as combat efficient as the grappling martial arts and plenty of frauds have turned the art into a laughing stock likewise with Karate. But TKD in the right hands is an effective self defense martial art as long as your opponent isnt a collegiate wrestler or BJJ pupil.
@@elbarto4069 After nearly 30 years of UFC proving the point Im pretty sure I dont need to argue this. That being said I have a tiny bit of experience in self defense TKD and had a Sensei incorporate basic BJJ mount guard positions because TKD alone is not great from ground positions. TKD is fine in the stand up fight but the moment it becomes a close range fight and 50% of the time its likely going to go to the ground. Striking martial arts are generally ineffective in those situations. Which means boxing, kickboxing, TKD, and savate.
We train modern taekwondo but our trainer always wants more powerful kicks if ther isnt a good sound from impact then he says do stronger i am happy to have someone like that as a person that im learning from.
I don't train taekwondo at all in fact I train shotokan a karate style that is known for long deep strong stances with lots of power, I was performing kata at a tournament last weekend and I was looking at the other schools in my division and I was so confused why they were scoring 9s when they had no power and no stance, I go up and perform my kata Basi Dai (I'm a 1st kyu in the process of leaning gankakyu my kata for my black belt) and I was told afterward that I Had to much power and should let it move slowly It made my sensei and me very disappointed in how money grabers have ruined karate
@@michaelgregg2577 yeah and i dont like the Kids i think all school have them they come go to exems after 2 exams we have yellow belt and they go less then ā year because lickliy came iņ right before exam and think they can fight and then theres me who got yellow belt after 3 years and is actully good
@@Renarss1513 it seems better for you to wait 2 years, ours is 6 months and then you can test or exam in your case but if we can tell like you don't want to be there and just looking at the clock sloppy stances and no power or effort some of our senseis will not put as much effort in to teaching them compared to someone who is pushing themselves to be greater then they began that day
@@michaelgregg2577 yeah thats also True my sensei also sometimes tells me to practice diffrent tehniques, combos then others and if i could change something or mistake that i make he says it and it helps a lot. Also i remember when i first sparred with him around 3 years ago i just couldnt do anything būt we sparred Last week and he hit me just once i 1 min round i was very happy about that it was iņ the head tho and i didnt land anything ON him but the diffrences is big
When I was kid and first got into TKD, I remember being scared shitless when I saw the black belt sparring matches at local tournaments. Because they were doing super FAST jumping and spinning kicks to the head, it even was like almost full contact/power you could say, when they did fought in those matches. But now, even tho I stopped doing TKD since a long time , and watch the Olympic games, I yawn and question whatever happened to those incredible sparring matches I remember seeing when I was a kid? It's unbelievable. :,(
When I first joined TKD My martial arts teacher was one of the best cuz it teaches old school TKD and I was a pretty tough and I when I saw my martial art teacher go to a tournament he destroyed everyone in the tournament and won
@@harshadadagale4253 One example: Punching to the face; It's very hard to block a good straight jab to the face, someone's nose gets broke, the tourney gets sued, their insurance company has to pay out... Does that help explain?
@@Tht1Gy how can someone sued when they know the risk before competing ? I see plenty of broken nose in MMA and boxing. Even football and ice hockey have player with broken nose.
@@wakakabravo7998 MMA folk and boxers aren't "Point fighting Karate Dads" wanting to have something to do with their kids, have a mid level office job, and a mortgage. Now, I am over-simplifying things here I admit.
My instructor got these things called 20/20 armor (I think that’s what it’s called), and he said that if we wear it and hit hard enough, even if your opponent blocks, it can still count because of the force going into that kick knocks the blocking arms into the chest plate. I suggested that if they counted that as points, they would bring the trembling shock rule back. He just looked sad and said yeah. He clearly misses that time
I've seen those and wondered why tech like that isn't in modern taekwondo. I think getting rid of the point system in favor of 20/20 armor would bring back that old style of teakwondo. Hell it may even put taekwondo back in the mainstream martial arts cause rn we just being laughed at.
@@TheG0DS It's because the 20/20 is so expensive. I actually left my Taekwondo school a few months ago in order to go to an MMA gym. Doing BJJ and kickboxing now
@hypnoticskull6342 I left Mines to after my black belt I graduated top of my dojo yet they refused to let me enter tournaments because the others weren't ready. I hate the whole fencing style taewkondo they do now. I refuse to fight like that tho. If I win I want it to be fun. So I joined a combat Taekwondo school and they actually fight here couldn't be happier. But it's disappointing how many schools don't even go to tournaments anymore and commercialize and cater towards kids and refuse to push them.
@@kimsaeueng4188 I trained in both Itf and Wtf styles for a collective 8 years. Modern day itf in many ways is just as bad as wtf. If you can find a school that concentrates on the old styles of either one you're very lucky
i love old taekwondo, i started my journey in old taekwondo and competed in old taekwondo, but i will admit the advancements were seeing in taekwondo as a whole, is ultimately great for our sport, i’ve been doing it my whole life, and i have missing teeth, probably brain damage, i’ve been knocked out cold before, i just hope that with these new rules implemented lately, we can return to old style while keeping the safety of new style, hard to ask for but i’d love that
I remember when I was a little kid I wanted to do Taekwondo because of the badass knockout kicks I'd seen in movies and vhs tapes. Signed up and ended up in a sports mcdojo. Tragic
I did taekwondo way back when i was like 10, I remember this 12yro 5 foot little boy blue belt, spared with a 25 yro 6'4'' green belt. the kid jumped 4 foot off the ground and was going land a clean kick on the grown mans face. he got flipped by hand while he was in mid air and landed on his neck, and had to go to the hospital. he was back two weeks later thankful nothing serious. and everyone including the teacher, bowed to him when he walked back in. the kid had skill, and everyone understood that, but to come back after that was what really earned everyones respect. catering to the weak breeds weakness. true strength is to get back up again.
Your story just shows that jumping kicks are practically useless, if not potentially fatal to people who try to use them on much bigger opponents. I'd be more impressed if the kid had have punched the guy square in the mid-section and dropped him, that is real martial arts.
@@eben3357 yeah, doing a jump kick crazy high to try to hit someone ~100lbs heavier and a full foot and a half taller than you typically ins't the "best" move, i would not argue against that. some could even say that the teacher allowing this sparing session is wrong because of the obvious differences in not only weight and height, but also age. it's truly not surprising that the child got flipped by the grown man. i mean just factor in air time, and weight difference, and seasoned fighters (like these two were based on their belt rank), it should be obvious right? that wasn't the point of the sparing session, it was to show that even a highly trained kid could put up a fight, and he did (skill >= size). i know my little example wouldn't show that, and i didn't feel like going threw a play by play of the whole fight which i actually remember a lot of because that kid became my hero and role model even before he came back. and one move (amazing btw) that got countered(like any move can be) and injured does not and should not take away anything from that kid. the point i was trying to make was that, in fighting sports injuries are unavoidable, you get bruises, you get concussions, sometimes cracked teeth and broken bones, and sometimes you get dropped on your neck. and what it's turned into now is a joke(from these videos i've been seeing), metal is shaped in fire. also everything you mentioned wasn't the point i was making either, it was a david vs goliath story, and even after david got dropped got back up again. (and they did continue to spar after that too, the man stayed for about another year, and the kid before out gym shut down became a 2nd degree black belt and exercise leader/ second teacher at 16) I'm not arguing which fighting style is the best, or what the kid should of done, everything is clear in hindsight, not to mention, punching isn't allowed in this sport, so your hypothetical one punch man doesn't work in this case. like telling judo fighter to put on boxing gloves, sorry that's just not the game he was playing.
@@emohippy420 I agree with a lot of what you are saying here especially the part about the instructor. I am not advocating one punch kill techniques, but surely if the kid had been trained to fight rather than do complicated spectator impressing controlled environment aerial maneuvers then the outcome would have been better, I believe, than hospitalisation. A good foundation in footwork and basic punching, kicking and striking etc. is far superior to ridiculous moves that evolved within the confines of demonstration and spectator purposes. Going further, imagine if my child went to swimming and the instructor was teaching water running, which is possible but highly improbable even with all variables controlled, when the parents just want the kids to learn how to survive in stressful situations by learning to float really well and then practise some swimming techniques which actually work. If people want to learn aerial kicks and running on water, they need to understand that such things are not self-defence or survival, but, rather spectator wowing.
@@emohippy420 Moreover, many instructors reward and promote 'advanced' techniques when we actually should be focusing on push-ups, running and basic striking and grappling etc. I hope this makes sense.
most useful comment. all anyone ever does is sit on their ass and complain about how kids aren't getting taught "real martial arts" anymore, but that can all change if people started reversing the pussy decisions made by older folks a generation ago, who implemented all those useless safety precautions, and taught us real, badass martial arts.
Stuff like this gets me so hyped thinking about martial arts, there's no dojo near my house but I'm teaching myself, spinning back kicks are coming along nicely, punching power is also really good, focusing more on cardio and stretching now, wish me luck lads.
So much economical reasons for why we dont see the almost bloodlist as we do now. My center got closed down, but the friday night sparring was immaculate. One guy basically went only for sparring and was definitely our fiercest fighter even when he had "only" had a brown belt. Ofc the center took him, me and a few of the other friday night boys for a tourney. Me as a 6'2 kid went against a kid a foot shorter, but he could jump and show me his heels both to my eye level. Brown belt bro got demolished. It was the moment where both of us felt like "man, the world is large" I think about that tourney a lot because it was when headshots were allowed. Since then it has become all meta strating and just point exhange tactics. So zzz, but very understandable given how sue hungry several of the children parents were.
@@lukasbartos2101 no I am a certified WTF 4th Dan black belt. But that's what I took it in the 90s. it was much more aggressive than it is now. And we trained much harder. But again, that all depends on how good of a master instructor you have.
@@streetsmarttaekwondo Thanks, I looked at all these replies and wondered what do people mean by Old school. I feel like ITF (which is what I do) focuses more on the power and technique as well though
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 It's mostly a historical thing. General Choi, the inventor of Taekwondo, had a conflict with the South Korean government and moved to Canada. WT style originated in Korea from numerous GMs, meanwhile General Choi tried to spread his Taekwondo, which later became ITF. The practical differences: There are mostly different patterns, I think WT has poomsae and ITF has Tul. There's a different dobok, different rules in tournaments (I think in WT you can't use hands in sparring, in ITF you can), also ITF has more focus on the teory and philosophy
ITF practitioner here. Decided to sign up to a place 1h30 from my house precisely because I really don't like the current shape of WT. A shame, really. Nice video!
Guys posting and commenting on videos like this need to understand there are traditional martial arts and then sport equivalent. Whether it's karate, taekwondo etc. You can train for competitive sport. You can train for traditional art. You can train for both. There's nothing wrong with it as long as you don't claim yourself as something you're not.
Taekwondo nowadays isn't as good as it was back then. I do Kajukenbo but I have mad respect for TKD. My grandpa was an officer in the South Vietnamese Army. He was taught TKD by the South Korean special forces and he used it well.
Taekwondo actually is a deadly serious killing system. Most Taekwondo practitioners today do not realize the deep history Taekwondo has had in warfare. Taekwondo was given the ultimate proving ground for legitimacy that any Martial Art system could ask for,.... war. Taekwondo was used in the Vietnam War. Korean ROK Marines also taught this style to U.S. Special Forces soldiers and also South Vietnam Soldiers during that war. The U.S. military adopted Taekwondo for its Special Forces training along with Karate. Taekwondo techniques were added into U.S. Military Martial Arts programs because of the styles effectiveness. But today Taekwondo is just too watered down. I trained inTaekwondo old school way, and still do to this day. My Master was a former Marine, with that Marine attitude. So he pushed me very hard during my training. And I was very happy that I was lucky enough to find him. Because of the type of training I received under him. I realized, Taekwondo most definitely can be effective in the street. But only if you're taught the right way to use it in the streets. Can't be on the streets, fighting like you're in a tournament. On the street you got to get away from all those fancy kicks. And stick to the basics.
I do karate but this kinda hit for me too. watching the Olympics was really disappointing because everyone only used the same the moves which is so sad when you consider all the history and diversity of every material art.
if taekwondo was still in the power era it would probably be my favorite sports martial art, but it has to go to MMA in terms of entertainment of watching and doing. I'm pretty lucky though that my instructor whenever he teaches us taekwondo he does it old school, as he was an old school fighter
taekwondo turned from a martial art into a game for points. back then, people looked like they were tryna kill each other. now it's just about touching the head with your foot.
Back then when I was 12, I joined the tkd sparring tournament in Johor Bharu. On 2nd match, I fought with someone taller than me with same weight class. That time I was to stupid to aim his head to gets point causing me fell down by my self. I lose that match and crying like a kid. But I keep practice and participate next tournament. I didn't win any but I feel satisfied to keep fighting. Now I'm 27 and didn't do tkd anymore. I start lifting weight for bodybuilders. And it just for fun.
I once learned old teakwondo on the 90s and was a junior black belt but I quit because my right leg was broken because of a kick but I have been going back to doing taekwondo
I was part of a academy that no matter what the case, small, young, old, skilled, etc. You could fight with who you wished, you could fight with somebody bigger or more skilled than you, god bless that taekwando academy
I didn't do Taekwondo for too long. I did up to yellow belt green tag, and I was pretty young when doing it, and I didn't appreciate it as much but even looking at it at the past Olympics, it was embarrassing. They are just trying to score points and hit the sensors in the helmet, and at times, their form of kicks went entirely out the window to achieve that and doesn't even feel like watching a fight or even a sparring session.
Honestly thats not even that far. Considering most taekwondo places it takes around 2 yrs to become a black belt. Which is ass and should be more. A yellow is really just a few months of experience. Olympic level taekwondo athletes are very good at taekwondo its just the rules of the sport that make them that way. If electric sensor was removed and old rules became implemented. They would do great.
I just attended taekwondo again after months and today just got in the head 3 times but I didn't care, all I care was the fun during sparring, just continue in kicking and trying to take control of the fight but in the end, me and my sparring mate didn't care for points anymore, we just go full on and just continue kicking not even feeling any pain no matter how powerful the kicks were on our head or body. I was in intense pain too before the fight starts, it was fun getting that pain again.
The fact that this is considered "old school" makes me feel really old. When I started the hogu hadnt even become a common thing yet and the Taegeuk poomsae were still considered the "new taekwondo forms".
0:40 Have a look at blue here Dude straight up avoided a low and delivered a kick to the head/face before they got kicked on the head themself. That is fucking awesome
I used to be in a taekwondo for six years[but hiatus until grade five] Im still using the old school taekwondo technique til now. Even tho i kinda stop being in that sport
I'm gonna show this to my friend. She trained ever since she was a kid in tkd while I was in Arnis and Karate. She's gonna go fucking livid. This is a fucking atrocity.
I did taekwondo for over 25 years and currently doing Shidokan Kickboxing. Taekwondo needs to get rid of the electronic chest protector (at the very least) and maybe even change the rules to include punching to the face. It will help the sport and the athletes in these times.
Previously fighters used to fight and tried to impart maximum damage on their opponents. So there were more wins by KOs. But now, people with sensitive assess have taken over and yeah rules have changed.
@@saikatdominicgregory9157 The truth it's close to that, just reversed: it's not that people with sensitive asses have taken over, but instead WTF "made the sport more accessible", in other words, turned it into foot tag, bringing in the people with sensitive asses. Thankfully, ITF exists, it's just much less popular than WTF
ITF Taekwondo needs more recognition; it is the more traditional and purest form of Taekwondo. WT ruined it all and all the efforts Choi Hong Hi and his masters put into Taekwondo has been ruined.
The school I went to for Taekwondo was primarily a kid's place and didn't allow kicks to the head unless we were black belt sparring. I remember I was a high red belt and sparred my first blackbelt. He wore no pads, I was padded up as usual. I stepped in and he spinning back kicked me square in the chest. The force threw me backward, my butt hit the floor, and my back slammed into the mirror behind me. New owners eventually took over the place and they were trying to make me take another year of training before I could take my blackbelt test despite our designated master saying that I was ready for it, so we left. Didnt want to stay with the new money hungry owners. I think the place closed down soon afterwards, which is a shame.
sparring back then required an insane amount of stamina. Yall know how exhausting that shit was how much energy all those spins and combos use especially when kicking with that kind of speed so consistently. Knee to knee and so many other injuries r so common when sparring like that shit is literally brutal. Nowadays its all just about scoring and use as many front leg roundhouses as u can, shame.
I genuinely love old-school Taekwondo; the new Taekwondo and rules have turned it into something that doesn't resemble a martial arts anymore, more like point-to-point sparring where has the aggression gone the dynamic movement take the call agility and speed of Taekwondo it has seemed to gone away and left a tap tap points sparring contest it's a shame at one point taekwondo was one of the most popular martial arts in the world now when people watch it on television the Olympics it is just not the same. It is not categorised really as something that people would want to participate in any more.
Im at least happy that I grew up with itf Tae Kwon do and can proudly say that my teachers to this day teach us like this.We train every muscle in our body,the teach us multiple techniques with the legs but fists also.This kind of tae Kwon do is the proper to master a martial art.We have to bring the old Tae Kwon do back
Bro NGL it made me emotional and i got goosebumps too 🫡 Nowadays it's just not about TKD but other martial arts too that people forget what is their purpose and they disrespect other martial arts like hell man
Due to Mcdojos, people forget TKD was battle tested during the Vietnam war. Especially in the battle of Battle of Trà Bình, where Korean marines engaged in Hand-to-hand combat with overwhelming VC forces. Old school TKD with Combat boots can and have killed people.
Its not even just the kicks, I remember a story (I think it was on 1000 ways to die) about an elderly woman who happened to be a long time student of TKD was mugged but killed her attacker with a quick fist strike to the throat. TKD might not be as combat efficient as the grappling martial arts and plenty of frauds have turned the art into a laughing stock likewise with Karate. But TKD in the right hands is an effective self defense martial art as long as your opponent isnt a collegiate wrestler or BJJ pupil.
@@mrbonesaw90 teakwondo definitly is more combat efecient than the grappling martial arts
@@elbarto4069 After nearly 30 years of UFC proving the point Im pretty sure I dont need to argue this. That being said I have a tiny bit of experience in self defense TKD and had a Sensei incorporate basic BJJ mount guard positions because TKD alone is not great from ground positions. TKD is fine in the stand up fight but the moment it becomes a close range fight and 50% of the time its likely going to go to the ground. Striking martial arts are generally ineffective in those situations. Which means boxing, kickboxing, TKD, and savate.
@@mrbonesaw90 Is wrestling good for self defense?
@@RPM1776 no it isnt
Old teakwondo was so badass, new teakwondo is now a martial arts that is really just for sports and points.
The same happened to karate, it depends on us to bring the old taekwondo back.
its not old taekwondo its itf taekwondo
@@cheesekimbap3452 but i thought itf doesn't wear those body protector ?, They only use foot protector or something
@@fairuzakmal2717 ye, just some, sorry mb mb
@@jellybean3057 yes..and i want to put itf in the olympics only if i can
I am so glad that we were actually taught on how to kick strong instead of just scoring points in our Taekwondo classes
We train modern taekwondo but our trainer always wants more powerful kicks if ther isnt a good sound from impact then he says do stronger i am happy to have someone like that as a person that im learning from.
I don't train taekwondo at all in fact I train shotokan a karate style that is known for long deep strong stances with lots of power, I was performing kata at a tournament last weekend and I was looking at the other schools in my division and I was so confused why they were scoring 9s when they had no power and no stance, I go up and perform my kata Basi Dai (I'm a 1st kyu in the process of leaning gankakyu my kata for my black belt) and I was told afterward that I Had to much power and should let it move slowly It made my sensei and me very disappointed in how money grabers have ruined karate
@@michaelgregg2577 yeah and i dont like the Kids i think all school have them they come go to exems after 2 exams we have yellow belt and they go less then ā year because lickliy came iņ right before exam and think they can fight and then theres me who got yellow belt after 3 years and is actully good
@@Renarss1513 it seems better for you to wait 2 years, ours is 6 months and then you can test or exam in your case but if we can tell like you don't want to be there and just looking at the clock sloppy stances and no power or effort some of our senseis will not put as much effort in to teaching them compared to someone who is pushing themselves to be greater then they began that day
@@michaelgregg2577 yeah thats also True my sensei also sometimes tells me to practice diffrent tehniques, combos then others and if i could change something or mistake that i make he says it and it helps a lot. Also i remember when i first sparred with him around 3 years ago i just couldnt do anything būt we sparred Last week and he hit me just once i 1 min round i was very happy about that it was iņ the head tho and i didnt land anything ON him but the diffrences is big
When I was kid and first got into TKD, I remember being scared shitless when I saw the black belt sparring matches at local tournaments. Because they were doing super FAST jumping and spinning kicks to the head, it even was like almost full contact/power you could say, when they did fought in those matches. But now, even tho I stopped doing TKD since a long time , and watch the Olympic games, I yawn and question whatever happened to those incredible sparring matches I remember seeing when I was a kid? It's unbelievable. :,(
Taekwondo was so explosive back in the day.
The Olympic's watering it down happened.
When I first joined TKD My martial arts teacher was one of the best cuz it teaches old school TKD and I was a pretty tough and I when I saw my martial art teacher go to a tournament he destroyed everyone in the tournament and won
I read that as shirtless and I thought "why shirtless..?"
seems going olympic is the worst thing that could happen to a martial art
0:24 I got goosebumps... I love martial arts.
same
@@jillanifaisal2644 bro i love martial arts but i have no one to spare with....im limited to my boxing bag :(
@@illumina1615 Bro I even Don't have punching bag 😞:-(
@@jillanifaisal2644 thats ok bro i just recently got my bag....before that i used to practice without it....but surely punching bag is more better
@@illumina1615 you can improvised punch the wall
Bring back real taekwondo
Bueno en el ITF siguen mas clasicos, al menos aun podemos noquear a los rivales y golpearlos en la cabeza
karate vs muay thi
hu es king
Demolish point system. Winning base on who get k'oed or surrender.
@@mohdazrinaziz5651 mma and boxing still have point systems. That’s not the problem. It’s the electronic scoring
learning old taekwondo like this and pairing it with boxing.....oooof!
You just can't in that pace.
Maybe the punches of ITF style are not the same as boxing, but very similar to it. There you can get the perfect mix my man.
@@edisonperezlazcani6490 yea bro ITF > WTF anytime
That'll be kickboxing
Kickboxing genius
Old school taekwondo 🥋 will always be the best taekwondo 🥋
100% Agreed!!
Fun fact : youve litteraly never practised any martial art seriously and dont know what youre talking about at all
@@omerde5545 lmao stop acting as if urw the only one who knows stuff
@@H1roPlayzso u know the sensation of getting launched by a strong turning side?
@@eggmin8967 im the guy doing the strong side kicks
Bear in mind that the "decline" that is being reflected is NOT the fault of TKD itself, but due to lawyers and insurance companies.
How?
@@harshadadagale4253 One example: Punching to the face; It's very hard to block a good straight jab to the face, someone's nose gets broke, the tourney gets sued, their insurance company has to pay out...
Does that help explain?
@@Tht1Gy Is that right?
What about all the kicks to the face? Because it still happens just at a lower level now.
@@Tht1Gy how can someone sued when they know the risk before competing ? I see plenty of broken nose in MMA and boxing. Even football and ice hockey have player with broken nose.
@@wakakabravo7998 MMA folk and boxers aren't "Point fighting Karate Dads" wanting to have something to do with their kids, have a mid level office job, and a mortgage.
Now, I am over-simplifying things here I admit.
My instructor got these things called 20/20 armor (I think that’s what it’s called), and he said that if we wear it and hit hard enough, even if your opponent blocks, it can still count because of the force going into that kick knocks the blocking arms into the chest plate. I suggested that if they counted that as points, they would bring the trembling shock rule back. He just looked sad and said yeah. He clearly misses that time
I've seen those and wondered why tech like that isn't in modern taekwondo. I think getting rid of the point system in favor of 20/20 armor would bring back that old style of teakwondo. Hell it may even put taekwondo back in the mainstream martial arts cause rn we just being laughed at.
@@TheG0DS
It's because the 20/20 is so expensive. I actually left my Taekwondo school a few months ago in order to go to an MMA gym. Doing BJJ and kickboxing now
@hypnoticskull6342 I left Mines to after my black belt I graduated top of my dojo yet they refused to let me enter tournaments because the others weren't ready. I hate the whole fencing style taewkondo they do now. I refuse to fight like that tho. If I win I want it to be fun. So I joined a combat Taekwondo school and they actually fight here couldn't be happier. But it's disappointing how many schools don't even go to tournaments anymore and commercialize and cater towards kids and refuse to push them.
@@TheG0DS
Nice job, bro
I'm so glad I had an old school teacher. He held his own tournament anually which abided by the old rules. Transferred well to MMA for me.
I was trained the modern clown TKD, when i got older i realised i wasn't trained for combat but for clown sport. Give me real TKD
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do ITF, it's better
@@mailsemorales6590 Have you seen the modern ITF competitions? It's not that much better sadly
@@Boasill you should see more then, ITF taekwondo is the real taekwondo. Do you even know the story of taekwondo?
@@kimsaeueng4188 I trained in both Itf and Wtf styles for a collective 8 years. Modern day itf in many ways is just as bad as wtf. If you can find a school that concentrates on the old styles of either one you're very lucky
i love old taekwondo, i started my journey in old taekwondo and competed in old taekwondo, but i will admit the advancements were seeing in taekwondo as a whole, is ultimately great for our sport, i’ve been doing it my whole life, and i have missing teeth, probably brain damage, i’ve been knocked out cold before, i just hope that with these new rules implemented lately, we can return to old style while keeping the safety of new style, hard to ask for but i’d love that
Can u explain more?
We need more of this. kwonkicker is doing a great job.
Thanks
I remember when I was a little kid I wanted to do Taekwondo because of the badass knockout kicks I'd seen in movies and vhs tapes. Signed up and ended up in a sports mcdojo. Tragic
But your delivery was magic.
Never knew that someone made this, little dark age + taekwondo. Love it
thought the last guy was asian elon musk
👁🫦👁
Yi Long-ma
ima die💀
He is not?
@@klepikovmd Yi Long Ma Seok
Whenever I see modern day Taekwondo I shed a tear.
I know what you mean. So watered down, such a shame. No wonder other arts put it down so much now.
Ive been TKD casually but this makes we went to go full force
The real Taekwondo is the ITF Taekwondo 😉
Has Taekwondo truly fallen from grace like this? I stopped after receiving a second degree black belt, and I’m 10 years out of practice at this point.
I did taekwondo way back when i was like 10, I remember this 12yro 5 foot little boy blue belt, spared with a 25 yro 6'4'' green belt. the kid jumped 4 foot off the ground and was going land a clean kick on the grown mans face. he got flipped by hand while he was in mid air and landed on his neck, and had to go to the hospital. he was back two weeks later thankful nothing serious. and everyone including the teacher, bowed to him when he walked back in. the kid had skill, and everyone understood that, but to come back after that was what really earned everyones respect. catering to the weak breeds weakness. true strength is to get back up again.
Your story just shows that jumping kicks are practically useless, if not potentially fatal to people who try to use them on much bigger opponents. I'd be more impressed if the kid had have punched the guy square in the mid-section and dropped him, that is real martial arts.
@@eben3357 yeah, doing a jump kick crazy high to try to hit someone ~100lbs heavier and a full foot and a half taller than you typically ins't the "best" move, i would not argue against that. some could even say that the teacher allowing this sparing session is wrong because of the obvious differences in not only weight and height, but also age. it's truly not surprising that the child got flipped by the grown man. i mean just factor in air time, and weight difference, and seasoned fighters (like these two were based on their belt rank), it should be obvious right?
that wasn't the point of the sparing session, it was to show that even a highly trained kid could put up a fight, and he did (skill >= size). i know my little example wouldn't show that, and i didn't feel like going threw a play by play of the whole fight which i actually remember a lot of because that kid became my hero and role model even before he came back. and one move (amazing btw) that got countered(like any move can be) and injured does not and should not take away anything from that kid. the point i was trying to make was that, in fighting sports injuries are unavoidable, you get bruises, you get concussions, sometimes cracked teeth and broken bones, and sometimes you get dropped on your neck.
and what it's turned into now is a joke(from these videos i've been seeing), metal is shaped in fire.
also everything you mentioned wasn't the point i was making either, it was a david vs goliath story, and even after david got dropped got back up again. (and they did continue to spar after that too, the man stayed for about another year, and the kid before out gym shut down became a 2nd degree black belt and exercise leader/ second teacher at 16) I'm not arguing which fighting style is the best, or what the kid should of done, everything is clear in hindsight, not to mention, punching isn't allowed in this sport, so your hypothetical one punch man doesn't work in this case. like telling judo fighter to put on boxing gloves, sorry that's just not the game he was playing.
@@emohippy420 I agree with a lot of what you are saying here especially the part about the instructor. I am not advocating one punch kill techniques, but surely if the kid had been trained to fight rather than do complicated spectator impressing controlled environment aerial maneuvers then the outcome would have been better, I believe, than hospitalisation. A good foundation in footwork and basic punching, kicking and striking etc. is far superior to ridiculous moves that evolved within the confines of demonstration and spectator purposes. Going further, imagine if my child went to swimming and the instructor was teaching water running, which is possible but highly improbable even with all variables controlled, when the parents just want the kids to learn how to survive in stressful situations by learning to float really well and then practise some swimming techniques which actually work. If people want to learn aerial kicks and running on water, they need to understand that such things are not self-defence or survival, but, rather spectator wowing.
@@emohippy420 Moreover, many instructors reward and promote 'advanced' techniques when we actually should be focusing on push-ups, running and basic striking and grappling etc. I hope this makes sense.
Chills ran down my spine, I loved the oldschool taekwondo, it was actually a brutal martial art. I can't stop watching this video.
Watching this video tears me up! I love the old Taekwondo! I will definitely never let Old Taekwondo die!
Being on the stage, and able to do those sick moves, is the best thing I've ever seen as an ordinary person, good job
I will bring back old Taekwondo.
Mark my words.
you and i..
@@burningwithin484 yes ❤️🙌
Keep working king.
most useful comment. all anyone ever does is sit on their ass and complain about how kids aren't getting taught "real martial arts" anymore, but that can all change if people started reversing the pussy decisions made by older folks a generation ago, who implemented all those useless safety precautions, and taught us real, badass martial arts.
In 3 years I’m opening my own dojan, I’m not gonna teach them taekwondo, I’m gonna teach them how to defend/attack using taekwondo.
Stuff like this gets me so hyped thinking about martial arts, there's no dojo near my house but I'm teaching myself, spinning back kicks are coming along nicely, punching power is also really good, focusing more on cardio and stretching now, wish me luck lads.
Good luck
Good luck
same but im in a dojo
You shoud goto a dojo
@@elbarto4069 You clearly didn't read my statement...
So much economical reasons for why we dont see the almost bloodlist as we do now.
My center got closed down, but the friday night sparring was immaculate. One guy basically went only for sparring and was definitely our fiercest fighter even when he had "only" had a brown belt.
Ofc the center took him, me and a few of the other friday night boys for a tourney. Me as a 6'2 kid went against a kid a foot shorter, but he could jump and show me his heels both to my eye level.
Brown belt bro got demolished. It was the moment where both of us felt like "man, the world is large"
I think about that tourney a lot because it was when headshots were allowed. Since then it has become all meta strating and just point exhange tactics.
So zzz, but very understandable given how sue hungry several of the children parents were.
ayo you cant do head kicks anymore in tkd?
There's nothing like OLD SCHOOL TAEKWONDO! That's the way I trained under a Great Master, and how I still train myself.
do you mean ITF?
@@lukasbartos2101 no I am a certified WTF 4th Dan black belt. But that's what I took it in the 90s. it was much more aggressive than it is now. And we trained much harder. But again, that all depends on how good of a master instructor you have.
@@streetsmarttaekwondo Thanks, I looked at all these replies and wondered what do people mean by Old school. I feel like ITF (which is what I do) focuses more on the power and technique as well though
@@lukasbartos2101 can u explain more itf?
@@raympndlandareastapkp7616 It's mostly a historical thing. General Choi, the inventor of Taekwondo, had a conflict with the South Korean government and moved to Canada. WT style originated in Korea from numerous GMs, meanwhile General Choi tried to spread his Taekwondo, which later became ITF.
The practical differences: There are mostly different patterns, I think WT has poomsae and ITF has Tul. There's a different dobok, different rules in tournaments (I think in WT you can't use hands in sparring, in ITF you can), also ITF has more focus on the teory and philosophy
ITF practitioner here. Decided to sign up to a place 1h30 from my house precisely because I really don't like the current shape of WT. A shame, really. Nice video!
1:45 man that was clean asf ngl
Guys posting and commenting on videos like this need to understand there are traditional martial arts and then sport equivalent. Whether it's karate, taekwondo etc.
You can train for competitive sport.
You can train for traditional art.
You can train for both.
There's nothing wrong with it as long as you don't claim yourself as something you're not.
Taekwondo nowadays isn't as good as it was back then. I do Kajukenbo but I have mad respect for TKD. My grandpa was an officer in the South Vietnamese Army. He was taught TKD by the South Korean special forces and he used it well.
Old tkd is deadly and insanely fast
Taekwondo actually is a deadly serious killing system. Most Taekwondo practitioners today do not realize the deep history Taekwondo has had in warfare. Taekwondo was given the ultimate proving ground for legitimacy that any Martial Art system could ask for,.... war. Taekwondo was used in the Vietnam War. Korean ROK Marines also taught this style to U.S. Special Forces soldiers and also South Vietnam Soldiers during that war. The U.S. military adopted Taekwondo for its Special Forces training along with Karate. Taekwondo techniques were added into U.S. Military Martial Arts programs because of the styles effectiveness.
But today Taekwondo is just too watered down. I trained inTaekwondo old school way, and still do to this day. My Master was a former Marine, with that Marine attitude.
So he pushed me very hard during my training. And I was very happy that I was lucky enough to find him. Because of the type of training I received under him. I realized, Taekwondo most definitely can be effective in the street.
But only if you're taught the right way to use it in the streets. Can't be on the streets, fighting like you're in a tournament. On the street you got to get away from all those fancy kicks. And stick to the basics.
I do karate but this kinda hit for me too. watching the Olympics was really disappointing because everyone only used the same the moves which is so sad when you consider all the history and diversity of every material art.
0:24 You can feel the power of this hit down in your bones, that just gave me goosebumps.
I cannot stop watching this video.
It motivates me, and always keeps me up to do taekwondo.
Taekwondo's fate is tragic asf. Its literally being fucked up over and over again by the olympics and those Mcdojos.
I routinely keep unliking and liking this video so I can find it at the top of the playlist whenever I'm lacking motivation.
Back when Taekwondo teach you how to knockout your opponent Now they teach you how to score.
depends on your coach, mine teach me how to unhook peoples jaw.
if taekwondo was still in the power era it would probably be my favorite sports martial art, but it has to go to MMA in terms of entertainment of watching and doing.
I'm pretty lucky though that my instructor whenever he teaches us taekwondo he does it old school, as he was an old school fighter
U can still use these epic kicks but competitive taekwondo strategies changed a lot in these years and now u can get a bit bored when u see it on tv.
Luckily u can still find old school taekwondo dojos and masters
Yes, the ITF schools 😉🥋☝🏻
taekwondo turned from a martial art into a game for points. back then, people looked like they were tryna kill each other. now it's just about touching the head with your foot.
Iam a new taekwondo player but my coach is different from others he is on just another level and now he is teaching iam really grateful for it.
Old Taekwondo: i am here to kick ass and chew bubble gum, and i am out of bubble gum.
New taekwondo: please don´t hit me
LMAO....Truth!
Back in the day if you told them you are a taekwondo practitioner they thought of you as a badass.
Now they just mock you.
I am so glad I am learning old taekwondo
Nowadays, Taekwondo is updated to make it not harmful. In my opinion, feeling pain and blood dripping from your nose in Taekwondo is the best feeling
Back then when I was 12, I joined the tkd sparring tournament in Johor Bharu. On 2nd match, I fought with someone taller than me with same weight class. That time I was to stupid to aim his head to gets point causing me fell down by my self. I lose that match and crying like a kid. But I keep practice and participate next tournament. I didn't win any but I feel satisfied to keep fighting. Now I'm 27 and didn't do tkd anymore. I start lifting weight for bodybuilders. And it just for fun.
I was lucky that I was trained in Old School Taekwondo & Boxing simultaneously for the last 2O years.
I once learned old teakwondo on the 90s and was a junior black belt but I quit because my right leg was broken because of a kick but I have been going back to doing taekwondo
I was part of a academy that no matter what the case, small, young, old, skilled, etc. You could fight with who you wished, you could fight with somebody bigger or more skilled than you, god bless that taekwando academy
Let's be honest 2 years of old tkd training could beat a black belt up to 2nd degree that's for sure
ik many 3rd dans that could get smoked easily, probably from 1 year of old tkd training
Im glad that my local taekwondo scene still has this adrenaline filled way of taekwondo
Am impressed even though I do boxing this make me want to learn old tkd
just love how you transformed my fav song and yeah TKD is great. I wish I could keep continuing that.
I didn't do Taekwondo for too long. I did up to yellow belt green tag, and I was pretty young when doing it, and I didn't appreciate it as much but even looking at it at the past Olympics, it was embarrassing. They are just trying to score points and hit the sensors in the helmet, and at times, their form of kicks went entirely out the window to achieve that and doesn't even feel like watching a fight or even a sparring session.
Honestly thats not even that far. Considering most taekwondo places it takes around 2 yrs to become a black belt. Which is ass and should be more. A yellow is really just a few months of experience. Olympic level taekwondo athletes are very good at taekwondo its just the rules of the sport that make them that way. If electric sensor was removed and old rules became implemented. They would do great.
@@profile1172 Black belt isnt a "master" level in TKD unlike other systems. People forget that.
4th degree black belt is master level.
@@profile1172 i got yellow in 1 month...
I am 14 years old taekwondo fighter . Love this video . I am also black belt Dan 2 so I also love martial arts . Love from bihar
It basically became stunning martial art to a score game. Actually in Korea we have a word for mocking new Taekwondo. "The Foot Fencing"
I just attended taekwondo again after months and today just got in the head 3 times but I didn't care, all I care was the fun during sparring, just continue in kicking and trying to take control of the fight but in the end, me and my sparring mate didn't care for points anymore, we just go full on and just continue kicking not even feeling any pain no matter how powerful the kicks were on our head or body. I was in intense pain too before the fight starts, it was fun getting that pain again.
The fact that this is considered "old school" makes me feel really old. When I started the hogu hadnt even become a common thing yet and the Taegeuk poomsae were still considered the "new taekwondo forms".
1:41 bro that tornado kick was sick🥶
0:40 Have a look at blue here
Dude straight up avoided a low and delivered a kick to the head/face before they got kicked on the head themself.
That is fucking awesome
I used to be in a taekwondo for six years[but hiatus until grade five]
Im still using the old school taekwondo technique til now. Even tho i kinda stop being in that sport
I'm gonna show this to my friend. She trained ever since she was a kid in tkd while I was in Arnis and Karate. She's gonna go fucking livid. This is a fucking atrocity.
How did she react?
@@arthureaterofworlds5176 she just ended up looking disappointed and a little sad. Managed to cheer her up at the end of the day, at least.
@@arthureaterofworlds5176 she just ended up looking disappointed and a little sad. Managed to cheer her up at the end of the day, at least.
Back then, you actuly needed the headgear
Long live the old school martial arts
Thx for this vid my homie
Now this inspired me to be aggressive on my next taekwondo session
Can you do a Muay Thai compilation? Can you include Buakaw the fighter and some cool knockouts
I dont know much about Muay Thai but ill do it
@@PopularVisualWave thanks 🙏
@@caidenonfridge8826 look, done ua-cam.com/video/VYnTQ5m6SK8/v-deo.html
@@PopularVisualWave thanks
@@PopularVisualWave sorry for late reply lol
Does anyone know that clip in 00:24 is from? I love that clip, I want to make it into a GIF, so if anyone, please do reply to me. Thank you.
Magnífico, simplesmente.
I did taekwondo for over 25 years and currently doing Shidokan Kickboxing. Taekwondo needs to get rid of the electronic chest protector (at the very least) and maybe even change the rules to include punching to the face. It will help the sport and the athletes in these times.
So would you get disqualified for actually hitting your opponent now?
Previously fighters used to fight and tried to impart maximum damage on their opponents. So there were more wins by KOs. But now, people with sensitive assess have taken over and yeah rules have changed.
@@saikatdominicgregory9157 The truth it's close to that, just reversed: it's not that people with sensitive asses have taken over, but instead WTF "made the sport more accessible", in other words, turned it into foot tag, bringing in the people with sensitive asses. Thankfully, ITF exists, it's just much less popular than WTF
@@saikatdominicgregory9157 was that what happened in the Olympics? I remember there was a KO and the one who did it was DQ'ed
The sinking realization that some spots were never meant to be optimized
what's the music/ little dark age's version ?
There you have
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Such a perfect video. Music and everything.
World taekwondo ruined taekwondo
ITF Taekwondo needs more recognition; it is the more traditional and purest form of Taekwondo. WT ruined it all and all the efforts Choi Hong Hi and his masters put into Taekwondo has been ruined.
Taekwon 👊
Now I want learn Taekwondo!
REAL TAEKWONDO
Modern Tae Kwon do is a joke
1:45 that looks so cool
im so glad to have the privilege to train taekwondo the traditional way at my academy, without the prissy modernization
Bro Taekwondo Matches used to be so Brutal
gave me motivation while being sick...
Whenever you see those footage of 70's-90's of. People fighting TKD you instantly see how legit and brutal it once was
The school I went to for Taekwondo was primarily a kid's place and didn't allow kicks to the head unless we were black belt sparring. I remember I was a high red belt and sparred my first blackbelt. He wore no pads, I was padded up as usual. I stepped in and he spinning back kicked me square in the chest. The force threw me backward, my butt hit the floor, and my back slammed into the mirror behind me. New owners eventually took over the place and they were trying to make me take another year of training before I could take my blackbelt test despite our designated master saying that I was ready for it, so we left. Didnt want to stay with the new money hungry owners. I think the place closed down soon afterwards, which is a shame.
from looking like boxing but with kicks to looking like hitting your sibling with a stick but with your legs
I watch this everyday.
Old TKD: use your legs to break bones
New TKD: use your legs to gently massage someone from a distance
1:16 In india we still play like this type of knock out fights
I fought with my seniors who learned old school I can feel their kick even with the armour
sparring back then required an insane amount of stamina. Yall know how exhausting that shit was how much energy all those spins and combos use especially when kicking with that kind of speed so consistently. Knee to knee and so many other injuries r so common when sparring like that shit is literally brutal. Nowadays its all just about scoring and use as many front leg roundhouses as u can, shame.
I’m assuming that last guy is someone important in the TKD community
The Founder Of The Taekwondo
same thing also happened in karate. damn i miss old school karate dojo
1:43
That close exchange, and then the absolute CHASE from blue !
Yes.
Wowww... Didn't know taekwondo could be as great as this. That gave me chills
I genuinely love old-school Taekwondo; the new Taekwondo and rules have turned it into something that doesn't resemble a martial arts anymore, more like point-to-point sparring where has the aggression gone the dynamic movement take the call agility and speed of Taekwondo it has seemed to gone away and left a tap tap points sparring contest it's a shame at one point taekwondo was one of the most popular martial arts in the world now when people watch it on television the Olympics it is just not the same. It is not categorised really as something that people would want to participate in any more.
Im at least happy that I grew up with itf Tae Kwon do and can proudly say that my teachers to this day teach us like this.We train every muscle in our body,the teach us multiple techniques with the legs but fists also.This kind of tae Kwon do is the proper to master a martial art.We have to bring the old Tae Kwon do back
Bro NGL it made me emotional and i got goosebumps too 🫡
Nowadays it's just not about TKD but other martial arts too that people forget what is their purpose and they disrespect other martial arts like hell man