This is old school korean mmo. Older mmo guys like me remember these kinds of games. It's not for everyone. I love repetitive stuff. Doin things over and over. This game is ultimately for those kinds of people. I hope it stays on for a long time so i can play for 10+ years.
The constant dungeon queue pops are the result of them giving extra rewards if you queue up to a random dungeon, but they forgot to account for the fact that you can still see what dungeon you're about to enter. As a result of this, most people are only choosing to go into the dungeon they really need, while still using the "random dungeon queue" feature. The fix to this is easy, but it has to be done in 2 parts: 1. Add a time-out penalty for people who quit before a dungeon is completed. So if you leave your party before killing the final boss, you have to wait 10 minutes before queueing up again. This also has to apply if you get kicked, or else people will just AFK if they don't get the dungeon they want. 2. If you queue up to a random dungeon, you can no longer see which dungeon you're about to enter. As for the rain mechanic in Sanctum of Desire, you might think it's frustrating, but it adds an element of strategy to the game when it comes to world bosses. Same with Syleus only being open at night. Guilds can capitalize on this and plan things out around the fact that it's gonna be raining and/or night.
I love the random queue dungeons, but I wish I could group with 3-4 of my friends and go in (it's only 2 ppl max). So now my friends all queue separate for the random dungeon playlist and I miss playing with them :(.
Started with 5. 1. Quit cause they saw the store. 2. Quit cause the grind. 3. Quit cause they were a friend of 2. 4 quit cause we didn't have a core group anymore and couldn't find guild members. That leaves me number 5.. who's quitting.
The rain for SOD is so painful. There are times I’m just waiting for that rain and it’s only like a 15 min window to get in and not die once the rain stops.
This has been addressed by the devs and will be fixed in a later update. You'll have a portal outside of sanctum so you don't have to go into the conflict zone.
I recently got zerged when i came to a junabote peace... and learned that players can summon pvp eclipse?? So I couldn't get in. I'm starting to think the top guilds who gatekeep the boss loot are actually NCsoft people. "If you want this loot, buy lucent for the AH" 😂
Oh my, it's smashed to bits! Don't worry, I'll completely fix it with restoration magic. YES! Restoration complete! Now you can smash the Arkeum to bits as you wish!
They have a holistic problem with the cooking system, the main and vital ingredients are acquisition locked. The four most important resources for cooking are wheat, honey, curry, and salt are also the hardest to farm(with about 2 an hour drop rate with no synergy or secondary benefit to the farming) which you also cant trade or sell between players, and can only buy a very small amount of through the store. 95% of the recipes require at least one of those ingredients, and there is rng at every stage of the process degrading the worth of your effort. Those recipes look cool, well look hard, cause you will craft maybe two of those a month, and you will need to chose where to aim or you wont gather the right resources to do any of them. But the game is beautiful and a pretty good story as well. Just avoid sinking any hope of greatness into the cooking system, as it degrades the experience of the rest of the game.
Sending my Amitoi to expedition to the coastal area for 4 hrs or 8 hrs they bring so much salt, if you have all 5 amitoi ulocked divide them into two groups so procure salt and such, my amitoi level is 16 its literally the first thing i do when i get on the game, over time those expedition can add so much cooking ingredients
@@ponciano84 yeah, but salads are gonna eat that salt right up. It really only stacks enough to supply yourself, not really enough to make it a play style or power multiplier out of cooking. I also sank a lot of effort into amotoing up, I have 27 right now and lvl 19 expeditions. Just isn't enough to make it trade viable with all the rng
@ yes I agree they should make changes for the cooking system itself. Which I’m sure they will but I have accumulated so much quarba and salt lol and only cook when I need the stuff lol my inventory has so much stuff already
12:30 the developers simply dont care. yeah rain only 3am when everyone is sleeping. or wordboss in the dungeon but no rain cant enter. or peace worldboss but its night lets die from p2w top guilds.
I play on PC and steam deck 3:30 playing on steam deck that's a bug/glitch Idk where your character "travel back in time and place" if you just keep walking running and then jump or try to do some action like attack or something the game say "it's not possible to do it to far away" or something. And when you jump you'll be back to the start position. So you need to either keep moving while jumping to be able to access other places or enemies or you need to restart the whole game hahaha I dont know what triggers this bug, sometimes I cannplay for hours and then happen, and some times just a few minutes of gameplay this annoying glitch start 😂😢 ---- Also, my PC meet the requirements to play this game even on High but I have to play on low/medium because it's not at all optimized and I have a lot of bugs/glitches where assets and places of the game don't load (after TP to another place for example, I need to wait like 30 seconds or even more to the scenario load correctly) Its hard to explain but its something that bothers a lot and break all the flow and immersion of the game.
Just one thing: it's not a new game. This title has been in development for over 12 years. The gameplay problems and the poor movement and verticality implementation is just complete sloppiness from NC. I can't believe they had this as their final product. I would've accepted it with no problem but I remember trailers from this game dating 2011 😅
@@rafaelteles4161 reaally? Interesting… I knew it launched in Korea before this, but thought it was pretty recent still. Good to know, I had no idea! Thanks for the comment and for watching!
It's a new game.. You guys keep repeating this, and it's sad. That's like saying my house isn't a new house because my last one on the same plot burned down and I built my new improved home there. The game was a concept, then trashed... Then a totally different game with a different name... then trashed...etc..etc.. Then the team came up with a better idea, and we eventually got what we have now... It's a new game.
Since they added random dungeons that q has been a issue i q up for cave of destruction qlot lately for my wicked thorns and get that annoying sound and pop ups haha which prior wasn't a issue
Ran into your video and decided to watch and I have to say most of the issues you listed with the game I'm ok with, I can deal with it even if it's annoying. But the 1 thing that is killing this game is the BAD guild system setup with loot distribution and mega guild alliances owning everything PvP other than arena. It's killing servers and killing PvP. It's NOT PvP when you are killed instantly with no chance to win whatsoever due to the zerg of what seems like several hundred players, including bots, just mowing you over and mega guilds abusing the eclipse system to lock out players from PEACE world bosses.
Sadly being a PvP mmo with a non existent challenging PvE content, the game will probably be another New World with a very small community spread across multiple servers, luckily its cross platform so the numbers will still be carried by console players since New World didn't have that luxury back in the days. At the start of november the PC numbers went down by 50% and they are still going down. The game isn't bad or anything but imo MMOs in general lives and dies by either their Excellent PvE content and combat or their social aspect, since a large amount of people love PvE more than PvP and we can see that on every mmo, WoW/FFXIV/GW2/LostArk they all have good content but their pvp is very niche and small, and with how poor the PvE content is in T&L I doubt that the game will grow or maintain a good amount of players. On top of that the game is grindy and repetitive, we can see that the Two biggest MMOs in the market now are WoW and FFXIV and one of them never had grindy systems and the other completely moved away from grindy systems and RNG recently, and they are both doing very good to this day, T&L in the other hand being an eastern game grinding is literally the core of those games and sadly that doesn't work to their favor in the west.
Looks like a soon to be lonesome game… to many large guilds destroying servers by locking people out of content to keep up with them in gearing and training out options
250 hours in and Im probably quitting this game. Was fun but theres nothing to do. The Dailys feel like another Job. I wanna play to have fun, not to get everything off the Checklist, every single day. Same quests, same dungeons. For What? To Upgrade Gear and then still get oneshot in pvp. Was a good and fun Game but its lacking massive endgame pve.
Let’s start with only getting only 3 dungeon runs a day. And getting the most useless blues instead of actual upgrades or anything worth lucent. A waste of currency and time.
@@davidalexander3724 yea, honestly Id rather work a few hours in real Life and buy 10k Lucent to max out my gear then grind for weeks and months. Like cmon be creative, its a fckn computer Game you can legit Code anything you want into it. I miss Guild Wars 1. Your strength wasnt Gear dependant but Skill dependant. Endless Missions in Normal Mode and even Hard Mode, many unique Dungeons, capturing endless elite skills, work on your perfect build for weeks, finding builds noone has found before and that even after years the game was out. Like PVE Content was endless man with 10 Classes. Compare this to any modern mmo like TaL, its a joke. Its a Shell of a Game with no Substance- Ive always wondered "is it really me that just got old cause I cant enjoy any games anymore?" And I came to the conclusion no man, its 100% the Games that became shit.
The fact that I know I will be locked out of content when I get to end game is why I stopped playing. Why invest all of the time into a game just to be locked out of content and then have to compete with the whales and swipers?
@@EhJay_Plays yeah as people predict before you can also see its not very popular game only 120k players on steam. More bugs than in new world lack of content already for the start of the game, everything is gated, lack of artstylew and graphics fidelity.
Disagree with the following: 1.- tell me your CP, and i'll tell you how "viable" thre game is as F2P. If you're not above 3000 you'll soon understand how is it not viable. 2.- Community is majority trash, to he homest. Any PvP driven game will be naturally trash communities, especially this game where as you say, content is locked down by this trash abusive ppl. 3.- Theres is not a "ton to do", there is Dungeons, Abyss snd Contracts. All there is to it that actually matters. Give it 3 more weeks, which is what I have over you, and you'll realize the game is not as good as you think. You forgot to mention in the bad parts, shit locked to Guilds and World boss loots distributions, Lucent predatory market and unsustainable.
@@tiltingart9276 1 - 3150, but past this will be pretty grindy, I’m aware! 2 - I have found it to be a mixed bag, but I don’t PVP, so maybe that’s why? I have a great guild, but do sometimes run into randoms who are meh. I find that in any game though! 3 - world bosses? Guild raids? I mean sure, that in itself still isn’t a TON, but as someone who works full time and would like to try an alt, I can’t even get through these so far as is. I really would like to see a raid in the future though. I can see people getting frustrated about being locked out of things hitting the game here shortly, but at the same time there are SO MANY new players, so I’m not sure which of those two populations is greater than the other.
To put in nicely this is Lost Ark 2 with lowest amount of job done to make the game playable, complete rip off. Nothing works. Combat sucks ass and half of the time you are locked and cant shoot the enemy. You are stuck all the time in the walls, ground or anything else. When you try to fly you bug and nex thing you are dead on the ground. Jumping doesn't work yet there are mechanics you need to jump. (makes no sence) You are stuck with contracts many times per week. Last time I had this yesterday because someone used eclipse during world boss. And why the hell is eclipse even a thing? Hard to see any reasons to play after 100-200 hours. Something has to change and soon.
@@EhJay_Plays 1. Queues are kinda broken indeed, but they are in a much better state than they were before, some dungeons you just couldn't find a tank or a healer because no items for that specific archetype dropped there, now with the incentive of the box that can drop tokens of salvation you can target farm the dungeon you need a specific item from albeit having to hear the annoying pop up sound all the time. 2. Sanctum of Desire is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE but not for the reason you mentioned, the problems that make Sanctum absolute trash got to do with it having the lowest mob density of all open world dungeons, hardest hitting mobs of open world dungeons, most scattered mobs along within the dungeon, mobs being separate from each other inside (like having a room for pyros, a room for hydros and so on), having the WORST open world dungeon contracts out of all of them pretty much forcing you to be roaming around looking for trackers and guardians, changing rooms (can't target farm a mob for a contract) and most of the times needing to get Umbramancer (boss) contract. ALL of that COMBNIED with the rain mechanic is what makes sanctum so bad. The rain itself is a GREAT mechanic, both for PVE and PVP, it changes how the game is played, how PvP conflict is fought in those places and creates a scarcity which is good for the game (since it wont allow you to do whatever you want whenever you want) BUT Sanctum with all those problems being tied to rain is really really bad, whoever was in the team that designed that dungeon did a really poor job (nice concept tho) 3. Game has a lot of P2W, that part you got it right but it's not as harmful as some other games and you can for sure be competitive while only playing F2P (i myself am 3.5k GS playing Liberator without ever spending a penny almost full purple, just missing 2 boss pieces), P2W hurts in the beggining when the disparity between the endgame and mid game is huge but now everyone that paid is pretty much waiting for T2 (which will not unlock new items in the first iteration, just make it easier for newbs and casuals to get boss gear), meanwhile, everyone that is not spending is getting closer to endgame if not already there. It's not only a "viable" F2P game, it's a REALLY good F2P game. 4. One thing i also think you got it wrong is saying the game has a lot of content, it most definitely does not and thats coming from someone that already has around 400 hours in the game (a lot of those is just leaving the game open and sleeping), most of the PVE content in the game AT THE MOMENT is made for you to get stronger to be able to PVP and not exactly challenging or fun, doing contracts is boring, dungeons are boring (t1 at least, t2 is gonna come in hot with hard content and from what i've heard from Korea 12 player raids are also coming Q1 2025) so pretty much you're just farming for gear to kill people faster or survive when they try to kill you It's important to remember that this is a game that is heavily centered around PvP (couldn't be different being the spiritual successor of Lineage 2) so of course PvE aspect will not be as great as PvP. 5. You don't really need to be in top 20 guild or be a no-lifer to be able to fight in big fights, of course the stronger you are the better the fights and better the odds of you winning, but most guilds even if they're not really "competitive" can fight for boonstones and maybe even some lower tier riftstones if they can pull some good numbers. Apart from those things i think you did a pretty good job of analyzing the game, it does have a LOT of flaws that have to be adressed and are being adressed but we can't let our guard down and keep letting companies ruin our favorite games, we have to be on their neck all the time to make sure we're getting a good product.
They need to make it possible to pick up 10 daily contracts at a time instead of 5
@@scrumbsciouscrispybuns5026 that would be huge QOL
This is old school korean mmo. Older mmo guys like me remember these kinds of games. It's not for everyone. I love repetitive stuff. Doin things over and over. This game is ultimately for those kinds of people. I hope it stays on for a long time so i can play for 10+ years.
You’re like the first to say this in the comments LOL! Glad you enjoy, I like it so far!
Exactly what I was thinking. Everyone who has played Lineage 2 finds TNL really similar and it beings old memories.
PvP in Throne and Liberty:
Stun - kill - repeat
or
Get stunned - get killed - respawn
That’s the experience I’ve had!
@@EhJay_Plays haha yaaaa it's pretty painful sometimes
I'm 750 hours in, and I can no longer understand anything in global chat. it's all chinese text or bot spam.
@@WoetotheVanquished really? My server is not that bad, aside from constant guild recruitment spamming. No mandarin spam or bots though…. Yet
@@EhJay_Plays try playing at 4 am EST. I even got kicked from dungeons for the reason "1111" by bots.
@@WoetotheVanquishedtry switching servers. I’m on est also
Liar
"THE UNDEAD DEN" Classic heard that shit more then id like.
@@ifreshplays for reeeeeeal
The constant dungeon queue pops are the result of them giving extra rewards if you queue up to a random dungeon, but they forgot to account for the fact that you can still see what dungeon you're about to enter. As a result of this, most people are only choosing to go into the dungeon they really need, while still using the "random dungeon queue" feature.
The fix to this is easy, but it has to be done in 2 parts:
1. Add a time-out penalty for people who quit before a dungeon is completed. So if you leave your party before killing the final boss, you have to wait 10 minutes before queueing up again. This also has to apply if you get kicked, or else people will just AFK if they don't get the dungeon they want.
2. If you queue up to a random dungeon, you can no longer see which dungeon you're about to enter.
As for the rain mechanic in Sanctum of Desire, you might think it's frustrating, but it adds an element of strategy to the game when it comes to world bosses. Same with Syleus only being open at night. Guilds can capitalize on this and plan things out around the fact that it's gonna be raining and/or night.
@@Calembunial WOW has both 1 and 2 and it works out great!
I love the random queue dungeons, but I wish I could group with 3-4 of my friends and go in (it's only 2 ppl max). So now my friends all queue separate for the random dungeon playlist and I miss playing with them :(.
@@AbbyHour agreed! That’s also an awful feature of it
Started with 5. 1. Quit cause they saw the store. 2. Quit cause the grind. 3. Quit cause they were a friend of 2. 4 quit cause we didn't have a core group anymore and couldn't find guild members. That leaves me number 5.. who's quitting.
@@SKOSHA2.0 sadge, but understandable
The rain for SOD is so painful. There are times I’m just waiting for that rain and it’s only like a 15 min window to get in and not die once the rain stops.
Legitimately one of my least favourite parts about the game
The rain to open the dungeon is just stupid haha couldn't agree more
This has been addressed by the devs and will be fixed in a later update. You'll have a portal outside of sanctum so you don't have to go into the conflict zone.
I opened 5 sanctum of desire contracts yesterday and let’s just say, I abandoned all of them😢
HAHA YEP, FUCK SOD
i think there's option in the sound settings where u can turn off npc voice line or turn it down a little.
I recently got zerged when i came to a junabote peace... and learned that players can summon pvp eclipse?? So I couldn't get in. I'm starting to think the top guilds who gatekeep the boss loot are actually NCsoft people. "If you want this loot, buy lucent for the AH" 😂
@@mondoyikes HAHAHA not a completely crazy theory🤣😭
Oh my, it's smashed to bits! Don't worry, I'll completely fix it with restoration magic.
YES!
Restoration complete! Now you can smash the Arkeum to bits as you wish!
@@Calembunial you can do better. Cheer up! 🥰
They have a holistic problem with the cooking system, the main and vital ingredients are acquisition locked. The four most important resources for cooking are wheat, honey, curry, and salt are also the hardest to farm(with about 2 an hour drop rate with no synergy or secondary benefit to the farming) which you also cant trade or sell between players, and can only buy a very small amount of through the store. 95% of the recipes require at least one of those ingredients, and there is rng at every stage of the process degrading the worth of your effort. Those recipes look cool, well look hard, cause you will craft maybe two of those a month, and you will need to chose where to aim or you wont gather the right resources to do any of them.
But the game is beautiful and a pretty good story as well. Just avoid sinking any hope of greatness into the cooking system, as it degrades the experience of the rest of the game.
@@bwartick i remember farming salt for a side quest once… I then decided I was never going to do cooking. Fuck that shit. Fishing too, awful.
Sending my Amitoi to expedition to the coastal area for 4 hrs or 8 hrs they bring so much salt, if you have all 5 amitoi ulocked divide them into two groups so procure salt and such, my amitoi level is 16 its literally the first thing i do when i get on the game, over time those expedition can add so much cooking ingredients
@@ponciano84 yeah, but salads are gonna eat that salt right up. It really only stacks enough to supply yourself, not really enough to make it a play style or power multiplier out of cooking. I also sank a lot of effort into amotoing up, I have 27 right now and lvl 19 expeditions. Just isn't enough to make it trade viable with all the rng
@ yes I agree they should make changes for the cooking system itself. Which I’m sure they will but I have accumulated so much quarba and salt lol and only cook when I need the stuff lol my inventory has so much stuff already
12:30 the developers simply dont care. yeah rain only 3am when everyone is sleeping. or wordboss in the dungeon but no rain cant enter. or peace worldboss but its night lets die from p2w top guilds.
Hahaha, yeah kinda seems that way, doesn’t it?
I play on PC and steam deck
3:30 playing on steam deck that's a bug/glitch Idk where your character "travel back in time and place" if you just keep walking running and then jump or try to do some action like attack or something the game say "it's not possible to do it to far away" or something.
And when you jump you'll be back to the start position.
So you need to either keep moving while jumping to be able to access other places or enemies or you need to restart the whole game hahaha
I dont know what triggers this bug, sometimes I cannplay for hours and then happen, and some times just a few minutes of gameplay this annoying glitch start 😂😢
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Also, my PC meet the requirements to play this game even on High but I have to play on low/medium because it's not at all optimized and I have a lot of bugs/glitches where assets and places of the game don't load (after TP to another place for example, I need to wait like 30 seconds or even more to the scenario load correctly)
Its hard to explain but its something that bothers a lot and break all the flow and immersion of the game.
@@Magoverso it all breaks the immersion, which can be quite frustrating at times and kind of ruin the experience overall
i just turn the sound off xD
I do too, sometimes! If I’m watching something on the other monitor or listening to podcast/music!
Just one thing: it's not a new game. This title has been in development for over 12 years. The gameplay problems and the poor movement and verticality implementation is just complete sloppiness from NC. I can't believe they had this as their final product. I would've accepted it with no problem but I remember trailers from this game dating 2011 😅
@@rafaelteles4161 reaally? Interesting… I knew it launched in Korea before this, but thought it was pretty recent still. Good to know, I had no idea! Thanks for the comment and for watching!
It's a new game.. You guys keep repeating this, and it's sad. That's like saying my house isn't a new house because my last one on the same plot burned down and I built my new improved home there. The game was a concept, then trashed... Then a totally different game with a different name... then trashed...etc..etc..
Then the team came up with a better idea, and we eventually got what we have now... It's a new game.
@@LurnWell The speed that they have been able to add new features supports this. Now the speed of fixing bugs like terrain issues….
Since they added random dungeons that q has been a issue i q up for cave of destruction qlot lately for my wicked thorns and get that annoying sound and pop ups haha which prior wasn't a issue
@@killaclutch4208 yeah, it’s definitely made dungeon grinding easier and the added chests are definitely nice
Ran into your video and decided to watch and I have to say most of the issues you listed with the game I'm ok with, I can deal with it even if it's annoying. But the 1 thing that is killing this game is the BAD guild system setup with loot distribution and mega guild alliances owning everything PvP other than arena. It's killing servers and killing PvP. It's NOT PvP when you are killed instantly with no chance to win whatsoever due to the zerg of what seems like several hundred players, including bots, just mowing you over and mega guilds abusing the eclipse system to lock out players from PEACE world bosses.
Yeah, for those not in top guilds, PvP is basically locked to arena which is quite unfortunate.
Sadly being a PvP mmo with a non existent challenging PvE content, the game will probably be another New World with a very small community spread across multiple servers, luckily its cross platform so the numbers will still be carried by console players since New World didn't have that luxury back in the days. At the start of november the PC numbers went down by 50% and they are still going down.
The game isn't bad or anything but imo MMOs in general lives and dies by either their Excellent PvE content and combat or their social aspect, since a large amount of people love PvE more than PvP and we can see that on every mmo, WoW/FFXIV/GW2/LostArk they all have good content but their pvp is very niche and small, and with how poor the PvE content is in T&L I doubt that the game will grow or maintain a good amount of players.
On top of that the game is grindy and repetitive, we can see that the Two biggest MMOs in the market now are WoW and FFXIV and one of them never had grindy systems and the other completely moved away from grindy systems and RNG recently, and they are both doing very good to this day, T&L in the other hand being an eastern game grinding is literally the core of those games and sadly that doesn't work to their favor in the west.
Yeah, gonna be a tough bit until we get real raids
Looks like a soon to be lonesome game… to many large guilds destroying servers by locking people out of content to keep up with them in gearing and training out options
@@jasongibson2778 yeah, I may agree…
250 hours in and Im probably quitting this game. Was fun but theres nothing to do. The Dailys feel like another Job. I wanna play to have fun, not to get everything off the Checklist, every single day. Same quests, same dungeons. For What? To Upgrade Gear and then still get oneshot in pvp. Was a good and fun Game but its lacking massive endgame pve.
@@ThomasFlaum90 yeah, they really need to get stuff added for PvE
Let’s start with only getting only 3 dungeon runs a day. And getting the most useless blues instead of actual upgrades or anything worth lucent. A waste of currency and time.
@@davidalexander3724 yea, honestly Id rather work a few hours in real Life and buy 10k Lucent to max out my gear then grind for weeks and months. Like cmon be creative, its a fckn computer Game you can legit Code anything you want into it. I miss Guild Wars 1. Your strength wasnt Gear dependant but Skill dependant. Endless Missions in Normal Mode and even Hard Mode, many unique Dungeons, capturing endless elite skills, work on your perfect build for weeks, finding builds noone has found before and that even after years the game was out. Like PVE Content was endless man with 10 Classes. Compare this to any modern mmo like TaL, its a joke. Its a Shell of a Game with no Substance- Ive always wondered "is it really me that just got old cause I cant enjoy any games anymore?" And I came to the conclusion no man, its 100% the Games that became shit.
The fact that I know I will be locked out of content when I get to end game is why I stopped playing. Why invest all of the time into a game just to be locked out of content and then have to compete with the whales and swipers?
@@DelbertStinkfester yeah, that’s the downside of F2P, can really compete with those who pay… but, also get to play for free!
Join a guild.
Make guild good.
Form an alliance with other good guilds.
@@EhJay_Playsthis all takes more effort than complaining on a UA-cam video. You’ve been warned
So far it dont have best parts, game is 4/10
Well yeah… cause then it’s just the worst parts? LOL
@@EhJay_Plays yeah as people predict before you can also see its not very popular game only 120k players on steam. More bugs than in new world lack of content already for the start of the game, everything is gated, lack of artstylew and graphics fidelity.
Disagree with the following:
1.- tell me your CP, and i'll tell you how "viable" thre game is as F2P. If you're not above 3000 you'll soon understand how is it not viable.
2.- Community is majority trash, to he homest. Any PvP driven game will be naturally trash communities, especially this game where as you say, content is locked down by this trash abusive ppl.
3.- Theres is not a "ton to do", there is Dungeons, Abyss snd Contracts. All there is to it that actually matters.
Give it 3 more weeks, which is what I have over you, and you'll realize the game is not as good as you think. You forgot to mention in the bad parts, shit locked to Guilds and World boss loots distributions, Lucent predatory market and unsustainable.
@@tiltingart9276
1 - 3150, but past this will be pretty grindy, I’m aware!
2 - I have found it to be a mixed bag, but I don’t PVP, so maybe that’s why? I have a great guild, but do sometimes run into randoms who are meh. I find that in any game though!
3 - world bosses? Guild raids? I mean sure, that in itself still isn’t a TON, but as someone who works full time and would like to try an alt, I can’t even get through these so far as is. I really would like to see a raid in the future though.
I can see people getting frustrated about being locked out of things hitting the game here shortly, but at the same time there are SO MANY new players, so I’m not sure which of those two populations is greater than the other.
To put in nicely this is Lost Ark 2 with lowest amount of job done to make the game playable, complete rip off. Nothing works. Combat sucks ass and half of the time you are locked and cant shoot the enemy. You are stuck all the time in the walls, ground or anything else. When you try to fly you bug and nex thing you are dead on the ground. Jumping doesn't work yet there are mechanics you need to jump. (makes no sence) You are stuck with contracts many times per week. Last time I had this yesterday because someone used eclipse during world boss. And why the hell is eclipse even a thing? Hard to see any reasons to play after 100-200 hours. Something has to change and soon.
@@Estergent yeah, there are definitely lots of questionable choices but hopefully they continue to listen-ish!
Too much bug in game.
@@thedayy there are a lot of bug
so many bad takes, god damnit
@@MineWikiCraft elaborate please! :D
@@EhJay_Plays
1. Queues are kinda broken indeed, but they are in a much better state than they were before, some dungeons you just couldn't find a tank or a healer because no items for that specific archetype dropped there, now with the incentive of the box that can drop tokens of salvation you can target farm the dungeon you need a specific item from albeit having to hear the annoying pop up sound all the time.
2. Sanctum of Desire is ABSOLUTE GARBAGE but not for the reason you mentioned, the problems that make Sanctum absolute trash got to do with it having the lowest mob density of all open world dungeons, hardest hitting mobs of open world dungeons, most scattered mobs along within the dungeon, mobs being separate from each other inside (like having a room for pyros, a room for hydros and so on), having the WORST open world dungeon contracts out of all of them pretty much forcing you to be roaming around looking for trackers and guardians, changing rooms (can't target farm a mob for a contract) and most of the times needing to get Umbramancer (boss) contract. ALL of that COMBNIED with the rain mechanic is what makes sanctum so bad.
The rain itself is a GREAT mechanic, both for PVE and PVP, it changes how the game is played, how PvP conflict is fought in those places and creates a scarcity which is good for the game (since it wont allow you to do whatever you want whenever you want) BUT Sanctum with all those problems being tied to rain is really really bad, whoever was in the team that designed that dungeon did a really poor job (nice concept tho)
3. Game has a lot of P2W, that part you got it right but it's not as harmful as some other games and you can for sure be competitive while only playing F2P (i myself am 3.5k GS playing Liberator without ever spending a penny almost full purple, just missing 2 boss pieces), P2W hurts in the beggining when the disparity between the endgame and mid game is huge but now everyone that paid is pretty much waiting for T2 (which will not unlock new items in the first iteration, just make it easier for newbs and casuals to get boss gear), meanwhile, everyone that is not spending is getting closer to endgame if not already there.
It's not only a "viable" F2P game, it's a REALLY good F2P game.
4. One thing i also think you got it wrong is saying the game has a lot of content, it most definitely does not and thats coming from someone that already has around 400 hours in the game (a lot of those is just leaving the game open and sleeping), most of the PVE content in the game AT THE MOMENT is made for you to get stronger to be able to PVP and not exactly challenging or fun, doing contracts is boring, dungeons are boring (t1 at least, t2 is gonna come in hot with hard content and from what i've heard from Korea 12 player raids are also coming Q1 2025) so pretty much you're just farming for gear to kill people faster or survive when they try to kill you
It's important to remember that this is a game that is heavily centered around PvP (couldn't be different being the spiritual successor of Lineage 2) so of course PvE aspect will not be as great as PvP.
5. You don't really need to be in top 20 guild or be a no-lifer to be able to fight in big fights, of course the stronger you are the better the fights and better the odds of you winning, but most guilds even if they're not really "competitive" can fight for boonstones and maybe even some lower tier riftstones if they can pull some good numbers.
Apart from those things i think you did a pretty good job of analyzing the game, it does have a LOT of flaws that have to be adressed and are being adressed but we can't let our guard down and keep letting companies ruin our favorite games, we have to be on their neck all the time to make sure we're getting a good product.
@@EhJay_Plays did you really just delete my comment i spent many minutes to type?
disgusting behavior my guy