Bachmann Chinese SY 2-8-2 Mikado: a modern-day steam engine?
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- Опубліковано 23 тра 2021
- This is a really interesting engine that I've been trying to find for a long time. The model has its quirks, but the prototype is a fascinating mix of American and Chinese features, and even though it's originally based on a 1920s design, it may be the closest thing in existence to a 21st century steam locomotive.
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The 3 last Non-tourism SYs retired from the Wujiu Coal Mine, Inner Mongolia in Dec 2021. There are a few used for tourism services around China
The final SY was made in Oct. 1999, numbered 1772. 1772 worked at the Diaobingshan Coal Mine, Liaoning province before being repurposed into tourism. The Diaobingshan Coal Mine houses a few SYs for tourism and filming purposes
This is definitely one of Bachmann's best locos. I have one with DCC and it's one of the best engines I own.
Howdy! I volunteer for the Belvidere & Delaware Railroad, the operators of NYSW 142, and have spent many hours working on her myself. I've gotta say that the Bachmann model does a pretty good job of representing her. The only thing I could notice without being able to see a model in front of me was that it lacks the two tender water hatches on either side of the coal bunker.
I've had an NYS&W #142 model since 2004 and it's been a reliable runner for me since then. I'd love to see Bachmann re-issue this model as I think it's been one of their best.
Nice! I do wish they'd release this one again, especially as there really aren't any small Mikados on the market in HO these days.
Sweet locomotive! I’ve seen the 142 and ever since then I wanted this model. Bachmann did a nice job on the locomotive. It would be nice for some of the Spectrum engines to come back like the SY 2-8-2, 4-4-0, 4-8-2....etc. Have a great day!
Thanks! I agree, the late 2000s when this came out was really the golden age of Spectrum models (and HO steam in general). I really wish they would re-issue this, the Richmond 4-4-0, and the 63" driver version of the 4-6-0.
Really love the layout you did here and the Chinese locomotive is surprisingly well suited to this layout.
Correction. The K&K RR’s SY and The Valley Railroad’s SY are the same locomotive. It was first owned by the K&K and then the Valley RR bought it
Aim getting more and more amazed on every loco being reviewed. Keep up the good work
Great video Michael! I've been wanting to get one of these for a while
That is a cool locomotive! I wish “Bachmann Trains” would build a retooled version of it from the ground up by using today’s standards! Such as installing a smooth running DCC motor, multiple colors, road names and numbers as ways as appearances! They will also keep the way that the engine and the tender connect together!
I have this exact same locomotive. Not the fastest, but it runs well and is a decent hauler. It's my favorite locomotive in my collection because I had the opportunity to drive 3025 as a high school graduation present.
I’ve had mine for a few years, great runner although it doesn’t pull well. I installed tcs wowsound in mine, they have a kit for it if I remember right, improves it ten fold.
Great Review of the engine!! I just finished modifying my own SY to better resemble the Valley's 3025. Mine seems to have similar issues at slower speeds as well, possible to the some of the modifications. (I needed to reverse all of the appliances to the other sides to match the prototype better. I have even been able to work on the actual engine during regular volunteer shop nights which also helped with getting reference photos.
As for the two engines mentioned in your video; yes the Valley owned both but not at the same time. The first engines was No. 1647 and originally had the red wheels like other Chinese engines. It was sold in 1991 to NYS&W when the third engine sank and renumbered 142. Years later the Valley purchased the burnt remains of Knox and Kane No. 58. (Engine was damaged in arson fire) and restored to resemble a New Haven Railroad J1 Mikado. Now 3025 still in operation at VRR today.
Hi! I would love to see a picture of that. I live on the Valley RR's tracks, right at the end of the line in Chester. Huge fan ever since I was a kid!
The line3 doesn't end in Chester, it continues to Middletown. But, the tourist trains only use the track to Goodspeed's (Haddam) and recently cleared track north of there through the marina. Before the rails through the marina were buried in dirt.
Really enjoy your videos on here. Very well done with your editing and footage.
Keep it up!
Very nice! I never knew there was a genuine class of steam engines built past 1960.
Apparently China did make locos during the 1960s so I guess China was the only country with operating steam locomotives
@@warbabyproductions South Africa had a few 42" gauge 4-8-4s in freight service until 2015 as well, although I'm not sure they were building new ones any later than the 1980s. There may be other countries that also used steam into the 21st century, but I can't think of any the top of my head. It tended to happen mostly in places where coal was cheaper than oil.
Technically, the Strasburg Rail Road in Pennsylvania also occasionally moves freight with their steam locomotives, but it's not exactly regular service.
@@warbabyproductions plenty of engines were made past 1960s but the very last commercial steam engine was made in 1999 and yes it was a SY made for use in China at a coal mine.
Wow, didn’t think 142 was built by Chinese, thought it was American, I also rode the excursion up in NJ and i still love it, last time I rode my very first excursion is when I was 3 years old.
Nice! Yep, 142 is one of three Chinese steam engines currently operating in the US. The other two are Valley Railroad 3025 and Boone & Scenic Valley 8419.
That’s a nice steam locomotive ,nice buy
You should have your Royale Hudson bust the W&SC similar to how 611 is visiting Strausberg
Unfortunately, I don't own a Royal Hudson. The one I reviewed was on loan from BC Shaver & Hobbies.
The looks great and I'll take the advice of if I see one that it will be a bit before I see another. Thanks for the vedio and have a great day.
That connection system is used on the spectrum k4
That drawbar design is actually recycled and or copied from their 2000s era spectrum N&W j class models - my 611 hasn’t had any issues with it whatsoever and actually runs alright on 18 radius curves because of this. I have no idea what the modern ones use though. 2000s spectrum was a peak for bachmann and really it just seems they’ve been living on that high for about 20 years now.
I’ve always wanted an SY to make New Haven 3025 (1658 as it stands today), however the only time I’ve seen one in person went for $450 at a hobby shop (I struggle to think about how I paid $460 for a Rapido EP5, even after waiting 5 years and seeing the model progress from render to functional prototype) and I haven’t seen one since.
Interesting - I didn't realize that drawbar design had been used on any other American-prototype locos. It does seem to work quite well.
$450 is definitely too much. I wouldn't pay more than about $200 for one of these.
The tender and loco draw bar is also on the spectrum prr k4
And spectrum Class J locos.
I have this locomotive as well it's a good runner. The only problem is I want to install a decoder and I've tried multiple times to get the tender open but it won't budge and I have no idea what else to do.
The tender goes together in a weird way. I got it apart once, but unfortunately I can't remember how.
Afaik SY in China Railways livery are still being made and sold brand new. I wonder how much would it take to convert one of the SY class to earlier MiKaRo (later known as JF6) class.
You cab also see some Soviet Russian influences in the photo of 0194.
Found one of these at a trainshow and preparing to add DCC to it so I can run it on my main layout…any decoder recommendations? I was told a TCS WOWsound 121 is a good decoder. Also where did you get those coaches? Would love to pick some up
Make sure to get a decoder with a good BEMF function. TCS WowSound should work well (although I recently put WowSound in this loco and have been having some issues, but I think they're probably my fault). The coaches are 60' commuter cars from Rivarossi - sadly out of production now, but you may be able to find some used.
You can never buy too many model trains 😂
Do you plan to do any Lore videos for your railway in the future?
Maybe at some point, once I get more of the backstory worked out.
I've got an off-topic question, what has happened to W&SC No. 12? Is it a parts engine or have you got it tucked away in a box somewhere?
It's currently sitting on my desk, waiting for me to figure out what to do with it. I'll probably put it on static display somewhere eventually (maybe not on the layout itself), or I might use it for parts.
She’s such a beaut! I would love picking one up one day! But may I ask where did yours?
I found mine by pure luck. I work at a hobby shop that often buys used train collections, and this turned up in one of them. If you're looking for one, eBay is probably your best bet, but they only turn up very occasionally. Also check any hobby shops in your area, and go to train shows if you can. With relatively rare models like this, it's often just a matter of being in the right place at the right time.
@@michaelramsey81 thanks I’ll be sure to be on the look out!
Could you do a video on how you add whitewalls to your locos
That's a good idea! I'm thinking of adding them to this one - maybe I'll film the process and make a short instructional video.
can i get a link to where you buy your coaches, i really like them
They're Rivarossi 60' coaches. I got them from VRCHobbies on eBay, but unfortunately they don't have any left. Rivarossi stopped making these a few years ago, and I think I got the last ones. They still have a few of the combines, but no coaches.
For what it's worth, here's the combine that they do still have: www.ebay.com/itm/274811859644
@@michaelramsey81 thanks for the link
Bachmann Spectrum will be missed…
It's not gone quite yet. The Decapod is still sold as a Spectrum model. Hopefully they won't abandon it entirely.
@@michaelramsey81 Oh yeah, that’s true isn’t it. I suppose it’s not done yet, the prices of the decapods are crazy though.
Which loco was the loco that sank into the Indian Ocean
It was a brand new 1991 SY Mikado that would have become Susquehanna #141. The Susquehanna bought one of the Valley Railroad's engines to replace it, and that become #142.
@@michaelramsey81 bit of a late reply but very interesting to know none the less
Ok just pet peeve but guys, if your motors are weak. They either need cleaned or remagnatized. Please try to remagnatize them, you will destroy your engine over working them on bad magnets. Do not do this, just remagnatize and it should be ok. The best way to do it with motors that use two magnets is it rub a really strong magnet against one, then rub the two motor magnets. This equally divide the strength between them after a while of rubbing them together. Or just get a device that can do it.
Thanks - I'm going to try this! The performance of this loco has gotten gradually worse since filming this video (to the point where I hardly ever run it anymore), and I'd rather not have to replace the entire motor.
If you buy a Bachmann 2-8-0 install a 2A sound decoder it will run better.
can you help me find one please
These are getting very hard to find. I actually just sold this one to someone who had been looking for one for a long time. If there are no model railroad folks in your area who might know someone with one for sale, your best bet is probably eBay.
Is it out of print? I live in eastern PA and the 142 is about 20 miles from me in Phillipsburg, NJ well it's stored south of Phillipsburg when not in operation. It was supposed to return to service this year after a two year inspection. They were using a diesel the past two years for the tourist trains. They now run to Riegelsville, NJ where they built a small station and you can get off. I rode it over 10 years ago before they extended the ride two more miles to Riegelsville. Track goes several more miles to Milford, NJ and a half mile of track was removed recently south of Milford.
@@robkrasinski6217 Sadly, the model is out of production.
There is one SY in South Korea!
W&SC #107?
I haven't decided on a number yet. It will probably be the highest-numbered engine on the W&SC, since it's technically the most recently built prototype (my newest diesel is a GP9), but it will still be a 2-digit number.
@@michaelramsey81 W&SC #99
@@toddkobell4298 A possiblity. I might do #89, since that's the year Susequehanna #142 was built, or #60, the first year of production for the SY class.
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