Just remember kids, if someone undercuts you, you can always try these three easy tips: 1) Undercut them back 2) Buy their stock and resell it at your original price 3) Memorize their username in your sleep, main a healer, and eventually - eventually, you will be able to watch that pitiful being die at your hands as many times as it takes to quell the unending fury unmatched by even black mage ragers
Which is, in fact, the correct move. By reducing the price to one less than a multiple of ten, you also reduce the market tax by one, thereby netting you the same profit while making your product slightly more appealing to the consumer.
That's completely unrealistic in any game with a Marketboard. It's always undercutted by hundreds; if not thousands or millions, of gil. Unfortunately; fortunately for the casuals, gil in XIV is damn near useless compared to other MMOs like FFXI
@ikeaira8701 Most items in FFXIV don't sell for more than 100, so undercutting by a small margin is fairly normal. As for Gil, it's pretty important to have since you need it for teleportation. You'll also need a lot if you don't want to grind out material gathering for crafter quests or if you want to buy a house.
@@coranbaker6401 Gil in XIV is damn near useless, it's basically there for the lazy people and Housing Enthusiast to move to a new plot. You can get Teleport Vouchers or w/e they're called through Hunts, Glam you can craft, and same goes for gear & housing items. Gil has no need at all besides those Gold Mounts used as a gil dump, and a chance at purchasing a Plot. Also most items don't sell for more than 100? That's just a flat out lie my dude. Unless you're talking about vendoring to npcs? Then yeah most don't, but Marketboard Prices and Vendoring prices have ALWAYS been massively different from one another, no matter the game.
@@ikeaira8701 I mean, not everyone does hunts, and I don't see how not doing them makes you lazy. Isn't the whole point of Final Fantasy XIV that everyone can do the content they enjoy most?
To add on to this, if you are going to take this route make sure that you are buying the Allagan/Night pieces from the area that you are currently in. If you end up buying from a city state that you're not currently in then you might end up paying more than what the pieces sell for at a vendor due to tax. You can also teleport to those areas, but double check that the teleport costs plus the current price of the pieces don't equal more than the vendor sell prices. You can and will lose money if you don't check first.
@@primelord5212 A retainer can sell multiple items. Two retainers are for separate job chances for them (combat, miner, botanist, or fisher), and more inventory space
That doesn’t work very well. If the person who put it up for super cheap sees someone bought it, they’ll do it again. And then other people looking for the material will see that it keeps getting sold for super cheap, and so to get those people, other people will start lowering the price of their materials. If the person is persistent enough, it usually does lower the value of the item. And depending on the price, as you pointed out, it can cost way more than it’s worth buying them all off them.
@Fire is Hot, Lava is Wet 🔥🔥 assuming it's a person selling the items for cheap on purpose.., you know full well the situation it applies to.., and tbh, Selling Bulk Cheap nets you alotta money, but selling individuals expensively is better.., [unless it's not stackable itemss] The undercutting think they're geniuses, but in the end, they undercut themselves to the halfway house.
Not only buy up the cheaper ones, but then sell them on your second retainer for a slightly lower price than your first retainer to simulate an intense undercutting war to make the material look like it truly is that valuable to the unsuspecting MB customer Works 50% of the time 100% of the time
Maaan, this is too real. I didn't even realized I got undercut so bad because im busy with pvp 😭 at least undercut by 100 gil or something, not 90% of my price 😭
I used to do that shit in Spiral knights. Often making 3 to 5 really cheap listings as fast as possible to lower the energy prices that people would see so that I could buy more of the stuff in bulk, and then sell it in bulk when the prices were high. It worked sometimes, but the gamble was always fun.
When I was in an FC that participated in the market, they would just buy all the super cheap stuff and sell it at regular or higher prices once they controlled the market
As someone who does this in other games, buy theirs and trade it in at higher value. If they keep doing it then you can keep buying it and selling more unless it's an absolutely useless item you're selling. Even right now in paladins there's the Bounty Coin Marketplace. I made 10000 recently by buying and selling the cheap Viktor skin repeatedly
I usually do a big brain move. In the situation above, for example. Instead of putting up 99 ( rounding it at 2500 each for easier math) for a higher price. I would put up a stack of 10 for say 3000 each. This way, I will get the people who only need a small amount without having to spend more. This way, I am not screwing the market. The Downside to this is that it takes up more slots, but they can sell faster, so that is a trade-off. What drives me bonkers is when people put up only a few stacks lower than the lowest price. Your stack of 2 will still be bought at a higher price vs the 10 lowest price that has a stack of 99.
Best way to do it. why in earth people sell stacks of dye in 99 is so dumb you can charge 10x gil per item and it will sell because no one needs 99 dyes. at max 5
Though when I see a material that is priced low on the marketboard I usually sell it with the retainer or a merchant. I just don't want to mess up the flow of the material being sold.
@@MayHuggerYeah, but they said they do it because they need bag space ASAP and that the item hasn't been selling and they want to be able to put something else up on the board. The fastest way to clear out items is a direct vendor sell.
I apparently made a ruckus once by accident by undercutting an item I put up. Made some gloves around like lvl 30-ish while lvling crafting. Decided to sell em. Others sell em so high, so I put it at a more "reasonable" price. Apparently said gloves was best in slot for speed lvling or something & thus considered valuable. I broke the market for a while for said gloves. Had no idea. Whoops.
That is the best scenario, just buy that stack and sell it for profit... The true pain is when a bot sells for [your price] - 1 assuming you are undercutting the rest...
I've gotten so burnt out on undercutters that I just look at the sold list for an item and then place mine according to averages, then let it sit and forget about it. Everytime I've asked for a realistic price I eventually get a notification sometime in the same week that it's sold. Trying to metagame hard is a waste of time that could be spent on getting stuff that will sell, or could even be a good pull during a time when no one is interested in farming it (I recently checked a marketboard on my server and the F&F Hairstyle which is usually sitting at 200-300k was suddenly gone from the interest and random people were starting to buy the current standard that was 900k-1mil because there was so few people spending their energy farming Eureka Pyros).
Loterally what is happening with drippys in the market board. Its really sad and kinda crazy to watch 3 ppl fight. Lowering the gil each time to just ine person trying to sell it. So far it went from 1,200,000 gil to 899,999 gil.
I’ll admit, sometimes I do this. But only if it’s a material I know a new player may need and won’t have the Gil for. So I try to give newbies a head start 😓 I remember needing stuff I just couldn’t get when I started.
Such is life for Eorzean crafters and collectors. Ngl it's hilarious having these trade wars, especially when you're involved in several. You under sell, they go below your price and you keep going back and forth until the item is completely devalued and you buy their stock cheaper and change the price back to the original or higher and you make extra gil. You just need to know when to do this lol.
I did that with a tier 3 aquarium, started off as 250k as they're frequently bought. Someone else puts theirs up for 249999, which is more annoying than an actual undercut. So I tank the price to 50k, watch them drop theirs to 49999, wait for someone to buy theirs and then bring mine back up to 250k which gets bought the next day.
@@concentratedregret6394 risky because someone could have bought yours for that cheaper price and undercutting by 1 keeps the value of the item are you trying to make gil or lose gil lol
Oh yeah, it can backfire. But tier 3 aquariums aren't that hard to make so I just put another up, eventually scares away competitors or I move to another low supply item. If I got like a 10 million mount and put it up, I'm not dropping that to 50k
Just buy out the ones that have undercut soooo much (or priced without any knowledge), and sell it at your own desired price again... works like a charm most of the time :P
I love seeing heavy undercuts way below the average price, normally it's done by someone who's impatient for money and needs a small amount for something else, so they dump something they don't need they know will sell onto the market. Generally incredibly underpriced items sell almost instantly, if you manage to see someone doing this the first instinct should be to buy it as fast as possible for resale, unless FFXIV's marketplace works differently than practically every other MMO in existence.
I usually sell small bundles for higher profit. I don't need to undercut, because there are plenty of people who aren't looking for huge stacks of the mats. I have 9 retainers though, I realise it's not as practical with less retainers to split your sales.
There's a lot of lazy people who'll use the market board for easily accessible things like glamour prisms, so even when I'm undercut by over a 100 gil, I know I'll eventually see a profit. (Glamour prisms tend to sell for 250 from my experience) Edit: also I've sold dyes you can get from mercants for much cheaper. I stopped doing that because that felt a little too scummy, but if you have no morals, you can most likely still make a profit.
You're offering convenience, nothing scummy about that; that's literally what convenience stores do. If someone needs tribal dyes and doesn't want to go all the way to Little Ala Mhigo, buying from the MB is much more convenient.
@@sixthcairn I wasn't talking about the tribal dyes. It's those dyes you can get from the stalls that are in the same area as the market boards. Those are the ones I sold as a joke only to make a profit multiple times. I just don't understand why you would buy something you can get for cheaper if you went to the npc nearby.
Then here's me sometimes buying orchestrion rolls from the main cities for like 5k gil and selling them on the market board for 50k Seriously, check your world's market board right now for Wailers and Waterwheels Orchestrion Roll. Hell, check your DATA CENTER in general and it will be selling for at LEAST double the price. It's literally like 10 meters from the Gridania aetheryte for 5k gil from the person who sells default clothes.
Seriously why do people do this? I start to notice after all the videos people make about the issue and realize they do in fact price the materials or whatever your trying to sell a lot lower by either 100 or 300 or so on making it lose value. Do they realize they can make more if they don't do that? I guess as others suggest you can always buy them low and resell then high.
Do not go down the WOW community road, in which they mass report someone just for selling things cheaper than they do. Also, those materials will be sold in about 5 minutes. So one will not have to deal with the competition for long, and the high end crafters are really rich, so they do not care about the high price
There's absolutely nothing wrong with undercutting with even 90% if it's a crafted item that takes 5 seconds to make and the materials cost next to nothing. I sometimes see people buy my reasonably priced stuff and relist it back at the "market price" and I just put more for sale. And I'm still making a decent profit. For the actually rare stuff sure, ask whatever you want. Even then I personally make a point not to buy from the 1 gil undercutters. If there's a thing I want and the 3 lowest listings are something like 1000000, 999999 and 999998 I will obviously pick the 1000000 gil one. Those other 2 can fight it out for as long as they want. Don't be too greedy, kids.
As a non-crafter and always suffering from poverty, I can proudly say that I'm the Warrior of Limbo. ANY GIL that I can make is good enough for me. No matter how low you are willing to sell your items without deficit, I can always go LOWER. I HAVE NO STANDARDS.
I once crashed the crystal market by getting into a bidding war with this one guy who kept tryign to undercut me..then this third person started doing it to until the price was like..less than half the cost of the original crystals... I then maybe bought them out and brought my prices all back up to the original price they were supposed to sell for.
I've seen once someone putting a thavnairian onion for 7 gil. Sorry buddy, but i am buying that onion and reselling it back at MB price, thanks for the gil.
The way I see it, just buy the cheaper ones and sell them at a higher price! I’ve noticed that people sometimes do that for one reason to another, such as selling something that is normally over 100k for a much lower price (such as when the highest ranked crit rate Materia sold for over 20k each sometimes someone sells it for only 20 Gil). So I consider it a win!
if an item is relatively easy to obtain and market price is extremely high, i'll usually knock 1-10 gil off when i sell, but otherwise, i'll match the cheapest price.
It's not just an FF thing. It's staggering how MMO players don't understand economics. Everything has a value and selling your supply of the good below market price screws you over, since you get less, and everyone else as now the market has to match your new low. Undercutting only makes sense if you need gold in the next 30 seconds. Otherwise, sell it at the current lowest and get your money within two days. Players undercutting each other all day just lead to a rich veteran buying up the entire auction house to dictate a new, bloated price. It's called resetting and sucks butts.
tbh, if someone lists an item i'm selling by a massive undercut, I'll usually just buy theirs and sett it at my price. almost no one actually checks the sales history tab and it's funny
I have seen all these high prices on the market board and my boyfriend told me 1 time in a different game who had the same thing that he bought all the low priced stuff on the market board and sold it higher price. Making the needs of certain items higher need xD His friend was like "I can't get these things for 300k. Why is it so expensive" "I dunno my dude. Quite a MyStErY" he replied nervously He's friend knew from that point it was him xD
If you truly wanted this to be 100% accurate, have it so the lalafell they see is actually a robot piloted by some korean/chinese gold farmer character several districts away, before said bot vanishes instantly for .5 seconds and returns in mining gear with 5 billion crystal shards/ect. to pump them into the market again.
I had a friend that was stupidly rich in the game. He would undercut people with 10 of the same item and then buy other people undercut thus lowering the market price. Because no one will buy all the 10 200k items and someone will eventually come along and undercut and people will readjust their price because they need gil. They would buy those items and rise the price back up to their true profits 🤣 I ain't approving of what he did to the market but some people are just that rich in this game
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As a someone who frequently use the market board I can guarantee that killing off the competition is in fact the best way to do it.
Ah, the Ul'dah Syndicate strategy. Most ethical and legit.
Pricematch or pricekill ez profits
Greetings fellow marketboard killer
I just half the current lowest price cause I want my stuff to sell first and that's how a random orchestrion scroll went from 800k to 150k on exodus
@@tim9680 YOU DEMON
Just remember kids, if someone undercuts you, you can always try these three easy tips:
1) Undercut them back
2) Buy their stock and resell it at your original price
3) Memorize their username in your sleep, main a healer, and eventually - eventually, you will be able to watch that pitiful being die at your hands as many times as it takes to quell the unending fury unmatched by even black mage ragers
the marketboard lists the name of the retainer selling it, not the player who owns the retainer.
@@rhael42 Oh.
@@midnamidnightwhisper7529 Yeah, the devs were prepared for those kinds of stunts lol.
@@midnamidnightwhisper7529 idk who you are but damn, I was rooting for you.
the real experience would be that the other lala would put it up for 249,999 instead
Which is, in fact, the correct move. By reducing the price to one less than a multiple of ten, you also reduce the market tax by one, thereby netting you the same profit while making your product slightly more appealing to the consumer.
That's completely unrealistic in any game with a Marketboard. It's always undercutted by hundreds; if not thousands or millions, of gil. Unfortunately; fortunately for the casuals, gil in XIV is damn near useless compared to other MMOs like FFXI
@ikeaira8701
Most items in FFXIV don't sell for more than 100, so undercutting by a small margin is fairly normal.
As for Gil, it's pretty important to have since you need it for teleportation. You'll also need a lot if you don't want to grind out material gathering for crafter quests or if you want to buy a house.
@@coranbaker6401 Gil in XIV is damn near useless, it's basically there for the lazy people and Housing Enthusiast to move to a new plot. You can get Teleport Vouchers or w/e they're called through Hunts, Glam you can craft, and same goes for gear & housing items. Gil has no need at all besides those Gold Mounts used as a gil dump, and a chance at purchasing a Plot.
Also most items don't sell for more than 100? That's just a flat out lie my dude. Unless you're talking about vendoring to npcs? Then yeah most don't, but Marketboard Prices and Vendoring prices have ALWAYS been massively different from one another, no matter the game.
@@ikeaira8701
I mean, not everyone does hunts, and I don't see how not doing them makes you lazy. Isn't the whole point of Final Fantasy XIV that everyone can do the content they enjoy most?
Fun fact: You should always check for money bags, sometimes people list them for lower than you can sell to NPCs.
I can attest to this
It's rare, but I did snag one or two bags who were lower than resell price
To add on to this, if you are going to take this route make sure that you are buying the Allagan/Night pieces from the area that you are currently in. If you end up buying from a city state that you're not currently in then you might end up paying more than what the pieces sell for at a vendor due to tax. You can also teleport to those areas, but double check that the teleport costs plus the current price of the pieces don't equal more than the vendor sell prices. You can and will lose money if you don't check first.
Use money items to turn in at the Doman restoration project. You get a markup for items you sell to that npc
Dont forget to also look at the clear demimaterias; more than once have I seen people sell those for less the resell price
@@archon5878 Didn't they remove that and you have to pay taxes regardless?
99 HQ mats for 198 is a steal
I mean literally, buy that sh*t from the undercutter and sell at a higher price
This, if it's that low, buy it and put it with yours.
For 2 gil each you could sell it to an npc and still make profit
Isn't that why you get two retainers for free
@@primelord5212 A retainer can sell multiple items. Two retainers are for separate job chances for them (combat, miner, botanist, or fisher), and more inventory space
@@ayonixanimations was being sarcastic 🤌 was joking about undercutting and sell at a high and low price on two different retainers
Buy all the cheaper ones and relist for more than your original listing for maximum profit (or miserably lose milions of gil and ponder existence)
That doesn’t work very well. If the person who put it up for super cheap sees someone bought it, they’ll do it again.
And then other people looking for the material will see that it keeps getting sold for super cheap, and so to get those people, other people will start lowering the price of their materials. If the person is persistent enough, it usually does lower the value of the item. And depending on the price, as you pointed out, it can cost way more than it’s worth buying them all off them.
@Fire is Hot, Lava is Wet 🔥🔥 assuming it's a person selling the items for cheap on purpose.., you know full well the situation it applies to..,
and tbh, Selling Bulk Cheap nets you alotta money, but selling individuals expensively is better..,
[unless it's not stackable itemss]
The undercutting think they're geniuses, but in the end, they undercut themselves to the halfway house.
@@MayHugger if that happens, then that means you were wrong about the market price
Lol it’s so funny seeing someone undercut by a huge amount and their shit still doesn’t sell any faster 😂😂😂
the freer the market the freer the suffering
"Capital volume 1 by Carl Marx"
@@janedoe4929 you two need to stop being so funny, I'm gonna end up without a job
"3 bread for 400 emeralds, take it or leave it"
Minecraft villagers
Still boggles my mind who ever thought an emerald for a diamond was a good idea.
Ah yes the universal mmo experience. Back when I played ESO, this happened a lot.
The solution was murder.
Some see a nuisance.
Others see a 249998 Gil Profit.
Not only buy up the cheaper ones, but then sell them on your second retainer for a slightly lower price than your first retainer to simulate an intense undercutting war to make the material look like it truly is that valuable to the unsuspecting MB customer
Works 50% of the time 100% of the time
Did this once.
Ended up creating a cascading market crash on that item.
I still stay awake at night wondering what I became.
@@Puddingskin01Please, don't tell me it was wood on Louisox.
Just buy it and relist.
It’s often just not worth it depending on the price and how persistent the other person is.
Not that simple
Oh no, off screen violence!
you forgot the part where then 748 people immediately undercut to 1 gil
Ah, "accidental" market inflation at its finest
Maaan, this is too real. I didn't even realized I got undercut so bad because im busy with pvp 😭 at least undercut by 100 gil or something, not 90% of my price 😭
I used to do that shit in Spiral knights. Often making 3 to 5 really cheap listings as fast as possible to lower the energy prices that people would see so that I could buy more of the stuff in bulk, and then sell it in bulk when the prices were high. It worked sometimes, but the gamble was always fun.
The pain. Ive been waiting on my rosewood logs to sell and people keep undercutting my priiiice
Blink one second and you'll miss the next undercutter on the line.
Market Board indirectly taught me about the stock market and how to trade irl
When I was in an FC that participated in the market, they would just buy all the super cheap stuff and sell it at regular or higher prices once they controlled the market
As someone who does this in other games, buy theirs and trade it in at higher value. If they keep doing it then you can keep buying it and selling more unless it's an absolutely useless item you're selling. Even right now in paladins there's the Bounty Coin Marketplace. I made 10000 recently by buying and selling the cheap Viktor skin repeatedly
Honestly, I should try doing this irl. Sell everything walmart sells but for half price and open the store next door to every walmart.
prepare to be hit with so many fines and worst case scenario jail/prison time lol
i mean, it worked for walmart ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Technically, as long as you aren’t on their property, there’s legally nothing stopping you.
this is literally how walmart shut down other stores lmao
I usually do a big brain move. In the situation above, for example. Instead of putting up 99 ( rounding it at 2500 each for easier math) for a higher price. I would put up a stack of 10 for say 3000 each. This way, I will get the people who only need a small amount without having to spend more. This way, I am not screwing the market.
The Downside to this is that it takes up more slots, but they can sell faster, so that is a trade-off.
What drives me bonkers is when people put up only a few stacks lower than the lowest price. Your stack of 2 will still be bought at a higher price vs the 10 lowest price that has a stack of 99.
Best way to do it. why in earth people sell stacks of dye in 99 is so dumb you can charge 10x gil per item and it will sell because no one needs 99 dyes. at max 5
The only times I sold something for 1 gil is because i needed to make space in my bags ASAP and cuz nobody was buying anything for almost a month xD
But you have to use your retainers to sell on the market boards and your retainers have a vendor sell option. Just food for thought 😉
Though when I see a material that is priced low on the marketboard I usually sell it with the retainer or a merchant. I just don't want to mess up the flow of the material being sold.
@@Valdora76 But this way someone else benefits from it.
@@MayHuggerYeah, but they said they do it because they need bag space ASAP and that the item hasn't been selling and they want to be able to put something else up on the board. The fastest way to clear out items is a direct vendor sell.
Item probably had like 2gil sell price so they could gotten more from the npc.
There is a special place in hell for people who do drastic undercuts.
Woe to the outcompeted
Undercutting is fine and all, just remember to keep it within acceptable range of other people's prices. (edit: forgot a two-letter word)
I apparently made a ruckus once by accident by undercutting an item I put up. Made some gloves around like lvl 30-ish while lvling crafting. Decided to sell em. Others sell em so high, so I put it at a more "reasonable" price. Apparently said gloves was best in slot for speed lvling or something & thus considered valuable. I broke the market for a while for said gloves. Had no idea. Whoops.
Why? What do you owe other sellers?
That is the best scenario, just buy that stack and sell it for profit... The true pain is when a bot sells for [your price] - 1 assuming you are undercutting the rest...
I've gotten so burnt out on undercutters that I just look at the sold list for an item and then place mine according to averages, then let it sit and forget about it. Everytime I've asked for a realistic price I eventually get a notification sometime in the same week that it's sold. Trying to metagame hard is a waste of time that could be spent on getting stuff that will sell, or could even be a good pull during a time when no one is interested in farming it (I recently checked a marketboard on my server and the F&F Hairstyle which is usually sitting at 200-300k was suddenly gone from the interest and random people were starting to buy the current standard that was 900k-1mil because there was so few people spending their energy farming Eureka Pyros).
I like games where you can pick which price to buy at. It is courtesy to skip over the players who undercut others by paltry amounts.
This is litterally me
And by that I mean my character is a blond female lalafell who frequently wears pink and undercuts people on the marketboard.
if you are on the primal datacenter then it might as well be you tbh
Simple
Buy the underpriced mats and resell them for 500x the original price. Works every time for me-
We buy those, and then immediately put them back up on the market for normal price.
Loterally what is happening with drippys in the market board. Its really sad and kinda crazy to watch 3 ppl fight. Lowering the gil each time to just ine person trying to sell it. So far it went from 1,200,000 gil to 899,999 gil.
To be fair when this happens at that extreme (and it does) I just buy it and re-sell it at my price... Gotta save the market !
I’ll admit, sometimes I do this. But only if it’s a material I know a new player may need and won’t have the Gil for. So I try to give newbies a head start 😓 I remember needing stuff I just couldn’t get when I started.
This is the MB right next to my FC and I use it every day. Weird feeling.
Such is life for Eorzean crafters and collectors. Ngl it's hilarious having these trade wars, especially when you're involved in several. You under sell, they go below your price and you keep going back and forth until the item is completely devalued and you buy their stock cheaper and change the price back to the original or higher and you make extra gil. You just need to know when to do this lol.
I did that with a tier 3 aquarium, started off as 250k as they're frequently bought. Someone else puts theirs up for 249999, which is more annoying than an actual undercut.
So I tank the price to 50k, watch them drop theirs to 49999, wait for someone to buy theirs and then bring mine back up to 250k which gets bought the next day.
@@concentratedregret6394 risky because someone could have bought yours for that cheaper price and undercutting by 1 keeps the value of the item are you trying to make gil or lose gil lol
Oh yeah, it can backfire. But tier 3 aquariums aren't that hard to make so I just put another up, eventually scares away competitors or I move to another low supply item.
If I got like a 10 million mount and put it up, I'm not dropping that to 50k
That's where you buy a up all the cheap stock and upsell it for what it was worth before. Thank you for the free gil
A true marketboardier would have bought them and immediately resold them for higher.
Honestly I would have just bought all 99 of those 2 gil ones and sold them to an npc merchant.
A retainer was just assaulted. No real players were harmed in the makings of this video
As someone who undersells people on the market board this is true.
The perfect moment to use all that Mandeville training
I just gather a sh!t ton of shards and crystals to sell on the market board. They're the one thing that always sells like hotcakes!
Just buy out the ones that have undercut soooo much (or priced without any knowledge), and sell it at your own desired price again... works like a charm most of the time :P
This is why it's preferable to sell things with an obnoxious barrier to entry like gem vouchers
Sometimes I wish player kill servers existed just so I could become a market board bounty hunter. FOR THE PEOPLE.
considering she put up 99 mats for 2 gil, it must be 2 gil each... meaning op put up 99 mats for 250 000 each! That's over 24 million gil total!
Hey I use that market board! It's between my apartment and FC house up the hill!
I love seeing heavy undercuts way below the average price, normally it's done by someone who's impatient for money and needs a small amount for something else, so they dump something they don't need they know will sell onto the market. Generally incredibly underpriced items sell almost instantly, if you manage to see someone doing this the first instinct should be to buy it as fast as possible for resale, unless FFXIV's marketplace works differently than practically every other MMO in existence.
I bought her stuff and sold it back at 3x the price.
I usually sell small bundles for higher profit. I don't need to undercut, because there are plenty of people who aren't looking for huge stacks of the mats.
I have 9 retainers though, I realise it's not as practical with less retainers to split your sales.
There's a lot of lazy people who'll use the market board for easily accessible things like glamour prisms, so even when I'm undercut by over a 100 gil, I know I'll eventually see a profit. (Glamour prisms tend to sell for 250 from my experience)
Edit: also I've sold dyes you can get from mercants for much cheaper. I stopped doing that because that felt a little too scummy, but if you have no morals, you can most likely still make a profit.
You're offering convenience, nothing scummy about that; that's literally what convenience stores do. If someone needs tribal dyes and doesn't want to go all the way to Little Ala Mhigo, buying from the MB is much more convenient.
@@sixthcairn I wasn't talking about the tribal dyes. It's those dyes you can get from the stalls that are in the same area as the market boards. Those are the ones I sold as a joke only to make a profit multiple times. I just don't understand why you would buy something you can get for cheaper if you went to the npc nearby.
Then here's me sometimes buying orchestrion rolls from the main cities for like 5k gil and selling them on the market board for 50k
Seriously, check your world's market board right now for Wailers and Waterwheels Orchestrion Roll. Hell, check your DATA CENTER in general and it will be selling for at LEAST double the price. It's literally like 10 meters from the Gridania aetheryte for 5k gil from the person who sells default clothes.
Sounds about right.
I used to just post at the default suggested price bc I didn't know I could compare prices...whoops
I'm actually wheezing with laughter for this! that is sooo true. 🤣
Seriously why do people do this? I start to notice after all the videos people make about the issue and realize they do in fact price the materials or whatever your trying to sell a lot lower by either 100 or 300 or so on making it lose value. Do they realize they can make more if they don't do that? I guess as others suggest you can always buy them low and resell then high.
Do not go down the WOW community road, in which they mass report someone just for selling things cheaper than they do. Also, those materials will be sold in about 5 minutes. So one will not have to deal with the competition for long, and the high end crafters are really rich, so they do not care about the high price
now you see, the big brain thing to do is buy her mats for cheap and sell them back on the mb for a hire price
There's absolutely nothing wrong with undercutting with even 90% if it's a crafted item that takes 5 seconds to make and the materials cost next to nothing. I sometimes see people buy my reasonably priced stuff and relist it back at the "market price" and I just put more for sale. And I'm still making a decent profit. For the actually rare stuff sure, ask whatever you want. Even then I personally make a point not to buy from the 1 gil undercutters. If there's a thing I want and the 3 lowest listings are something like 1000000, 999999 and 999998 I will obviously pick the 1000000 gil one. Those other 2 can fight it out for as long as they want. Don't be too greedy, kids.
I once went to every server on chaos and light eu and bought out every choco alpha. Big 🧠
As a non-crafter and always suffering from poverty, I can proudly say that I'm the Warrior of Limbo. ANY GIL that I can make is good enough for me. No matter how low you are willing to sell your items without deficit, I can always go LOWER. I HAVE NO STANDARDS.
I once crashed the crystal market by getting into a bidding war with this one guy who kept tryign to undercut me..then this third person started doing it to until the price was like..less than half the cost of the original crystals...
I then maybe bought them out and brought my prices all back up to the original price they were supposed to sell for.
I've seen once someone putting a thavnairian onion for 7 gil.
Sorry buddy, but i am buying that onion and reselling it back at MB price, thanks for the gil.
It's called "Playing the market".
Not only are you spending a lot for the goods, but charging more when you sell the goods
As a solely buyer (for now), i see this as a win 😎
Don't be mad. Some of us just want to get rid of our stuff but won't sell it to those cheap ass npcs
Welcome to WoW's Auction House as well
Time to buy that since it's so cheap, to sell it at a higher rate again
She’s laughing her as off 😂
I love it when people do that... I just buy them and profit :D
I knew I recognized your name, I've seen some of your videos before, some good work!
@@BirdCyclops Aww thank you! I watched a couple of your videos and subscribed because they made me laugh c:
@@Aitherea ayooo
@@BirdCyclops Oooh thank you :D
The way I see it, just buy the cheaper ones and sell them at a higher price!
I’ve noticed that people sometimes do that for one reason to another, such as selling something that is normally over 100k for a much lower price (such as when the highest ranked crit rate Materia sold for over 20k each sometimes someone sells it for only 20 Gil).
So I consider it a win!
Just buy out the competition if it's cheap enough and control the market for that specific item for a limited time
Sorry, I undercut the entire region, not just my server.
Simple, you just buy the one listed cheap and resell it at a mark up.
I do this for fun. Why yes, I did win during the housing lottery, how did you know?
if an item is relatively easy to obtain and market price is extremely high, i'll usually knock 1-10 gil off when i sell, but otherwise, i'll match the cheapest price.
It's not just an FF thing. It's staggering how MMO players don't understand economics. Everything has a value and selling your supply of the good below market price screws you over, since you get less, and everyone else as now the market has to match your new low. Undercutting only makes sense if you need gold in the next 30 seconds. Otherwise, sell it at the current lowest and get your money within two days. Players undercutting each other all day just lead to a rich veteran buying up the entire auction house to dictate a new, bloated price. It's called resetting and sucks butts.
The real PvP end game
Can confirm, ruining the competition by selling for a more reasonable price is pure enjoyment
I Just go down by 10 gil, no point in dragging prices down by the thousands I've seen people do. seem some items drop thousands in a few hours.
My grift is there's a fish you can buy from a vendor for like 2k per 99 stack then I just sell that on the market for like 50k
Times like this, just buy the 2 Gil rare matts and sell them for 250k Gil.
Lalafell Gang!
tbh, if someone lists an item i'm selling by a massive undercut, I'll usually just buy theirs and sett it at my price. almost no one actually checks the sales history tab and it's funny
I mean, if someone undercuts you that bad just buy it and add it to your own stock
I sell important things for 75% less than the asking price, just to increase the suffering in this world.
personally buy their stock ( not if it too $$$ ) and put it back on mb 1-20 gil below my price
I have seen all these high prices on the market board and my boyfriend told me 1 time in a different game who had the same thing that he bought all the low priced stuff on the market board and sold it higher price. Making the needs of certain items higher need xD
His friend was like "I can't get these things for 300k. Why is it so expensive"
"I dunno my dude. Quite a MyStErY" he replied nervously
He's friend knew from that point it was him xD
If you truly wanted this to be 100% accurate, have it so the lalafell they see is actually a robot piloted by some korean/chinese gold farmer character several districts away, before said bot vanishes instantly for .5 seconds and returns in mining gear with 5 billion crystal shards/ect. to pump them into the market again.
Honestly, as much as I hate bots, I'm so greatful for them nuking the crystal supply, shit is so boring to farm so at least I can buy them cheap
I had a friend that was stupidly rich in the game. He would undercut people with 10 of the same item and then buy other people undercut thus lowering the market price.
Because no one will buy all the 10 200k items and someone will eventually come along and undercut and people will readjust their price because they need gil.
They would buy those items and rise the price back up to their true profits 🤣
I ain't approving of what he did to the market but some people are just that rich in this game
buying it and relisting only works if the market is more global, but sadly this ain't RuneScape and market flipping doesn't work in ffxiv
I've made all of my money reselling terebith for 259 gil (it goes for 60 in shop)
Do what I do and buy the cheap ones and sell them for a higher price
As it should be
Buy it, sell it at you price
Whenever someone pulls an extreme undercut like that, I buy it and resell it for a higher price.
any time I cross something like this I always just buy up the cheap stuff and relist it at my price.
Gotta corner the market for yourself.