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Although often touted as an improvement in noise reduction, triples may or may not be an improvement over dual pane windows in sound blocking performance depending primarily in the overall width of the airspace and to the glass used in the construction. For example, a dual pane window made using two lites of 1/8" glass and a 1" airspace will have pretty much the same sound performance as will a triple made with 1/8" glass and two 1/2" airspaces. The extra lite in the center is inconsequential in this example. When the two lites of an IG unit are the same thickness they each allow sound waves at the resonant frequency of the glass sheet to pass with little propagation loss. This is known as coincidence dip. As mentioned previously in the video, having two panes of unequal thickness does help block unwanted sound from passing through your windows, but this does not require a triple pane window to be effective, a dual pane will perform just as well assuming the other factors (glass thickness and airspace width) remain consistent. Having two unequal thickness glass panes improves sound blocking performance because the different glass thicknesses resonate at different frequencies and attenuate the wavelength that passes easily through the other lite - nice and neat - and there is a simple formula for determining the coincidence dip frequency of different glass thicknesses: frequency = 12,500 / glass thickness (mm). Also you might consider laminated glass as an option. Laminated glass has a damping effect on sound. Basically, the softer interlayer acts to absorb and diffuse the sound that passes through the glass.
There is very small difference between double and triple pane windows in terms of soundproofing unless you have laminated glass inserted. There is a lot of tests available in web.
My house is on a corner lot and we get a lot of noise from vehicles driving by or neighbors going for walks late at night. After have triple pane windows installed we noticed a major difference in noise from the outside which has made our sleeping much more comfortable.
@@M0stBlunt3d we replaced all the windows in our upper floor that have all our bedrooms. In Ontario Canada there was a government rebate which saved us a lot of money.
@@James-oj8kq We used a local glass company in Toronto called Moncada windows and doors. You should be able to purchase the same style of windows from any reputable window company.
Triple plane I feel is more useful for hot areas, we are having these installed in our house in Lahore, Pakistan where every advantage against the sun is very nice. So we are not installing them for the savings but the heat reduction. They are tinted with LOW-E coating on 2 outside panes. Just paid for them today, so let's see how it goes.
I would agree with you on sound as I live next to a public park and the city just added dogs to that Park making it a people and dog park . Before, it was an adult Park and on the opposite side there was a playground. Now it's a dog park and people come with their barking dogs just after sun up and to sundown. I have double pane but I'm preparing to replaceme the windows on the park side of the house with triple pane to reduce my pain.
I have very thick window sills that used to accommodate two sets of single-pane windows that at some point were replaced with a single double-pane window. Would it be more beneficial and economical for me to just add another double-pane window where one of the old singles used to be rather than replace the double with a triple?
I am renovating my home with a large south facing extension. Those windows will be triple glazed to make the living area more comfortable in both heat and cold (I'm in London), hadn't thought of soundproofing but this is a great benefit considering the room also has nothing either side or above it.
Thank you for this helpful video. I think it's definitely time to invest in a 3 pane window for my massive lounge window, for relief from our crazy neighbours lol
HELP****If triple glazed windows with mixed glass thickness help in reducing noise would you get further reduction in noise if there was an acoustic laminated glass as one of the glass panes? If so where would it be best placed, exterior, internal or interior??
I would buy triple pane windows to reduce noise. I bought a double window with sound proofing coating from Thompson Creek. The room is very quite. It was an extra cost per window but it is worth it.
Great question!, but no it isn't normally a concern unless the airspace between the lites in the triple pane are abnormally close together. Since the primary concern for triple pane windows is energy and not sound performance, the optimal glass spacing for energy performance negates the potential for triple leaf effect.
I have quadruple glazing in my house, and it is huge difference when i muted the traffic fully, than a triple glazing what just resonates when truck passes.
Great video. I’m looking at finishing a walkout basement that has a window in the back and glass sliding doors on the side to my patio. Looking to convert to a 2 channel audio space with TV so I’m mainly concerned with window resonance affecting my acoustics. Also interested in your thoughts on soundproofing the noise from furnace which will be walled in. Thanks.
I used to live in a modern high rise condo next to a noise hwy. I think it only had double lane windows. But the sound insulation was amazing. W the windows closed, you can’t hear the hwy noise at all. I wasn’t sure if it was the glass or the tight seal bc unless I tightened the latch all the way, it’s still petty noisy.
@@soundproofguide could you do a video on what to look for during house search or type of construction that would result in a quiet house? In the modern condo i used to live in, the sound insulation was amazing - which I took for granted. You can’t hear anything outside (not even the noisy hwy right outside) or between rooms. Maybe it was the solid doors, concrete floors/ceiling, modern construction, etc. I now live in a 1950s house and I could hear everything. I’m thinking next time a new construction would be better. So I would appreciate your insight.
I really like your channel and your unbiased opinion. If I want to block the noise from my neighbors, mostly tv and voices, but I have a solid brick wall, should I add the drywall directly on it (maybe 2 layers of drywall with mlv between) ? Or should I also have a high density foam glued on the brick wall and the drywall on top of it ? I'm concerned that the sound will go from the brick wall directly to the drywall.
Very informative. You did nof talk about laminating. Would that further increase the soundproofing? I would definitely go for triple pane where soundproofing is most required. I will be doing that soon!
@@chadpilled7913 Agreed. there are a lot of sites and videos clearly showing double pane and triple pane have practically no difference in sound proofing but laminate adds a large layer of soundproofing. Not sure if this guy making the video knows much about windows and soundproofing. I mean the STC rating on the windows clearly show triple pane is basically same as double and laminate is almost 50% more soundproofing than those two (can decrease by more than 10db).
Triple-pane windows may not perform as well as Double Pane windows in regards to soundproofing because of the TRIPLE-LEAF-EFFECT. So, I am not sure if your video is correct.
I’m from Wisconsin - Kentucky now. BIG difference temp and length of winter. It’s been decades since I’ve lived in the country - quiet. But, that has been suburbs until the last 3 years city. Horrific noise from preteen basketball outside windows. In the suburbs, I was fortunate NOT - to have rude neighbors beside and direct across from me who would let their pitbull’s and boxers bark all day and eve long. I’d have to run around house find corner to talk on phone for work at my desk. Same now with earplugs and white noise machine stilll hear that darn ball. looking for a house now Out in the country. Would I purchase purchase triple pane? Yes. For even dog noise that carries. Heck yes.
Cost is one factor but comfort is another. With better windows, your house will be a lot more comfortable when the heating is off and it will stay warmer for longer.
If I install two triple pane windows on a double wall one on each side leaving a 4”-6” gap between windows will that help with soundproofing. It’s for a church nursery
I live in perfect weather San Diego, California. Very few companies carry triple pane windows out here, even though I live right next to a hospital undergoing construction. Sigh. If anyone has a contact for triple pane windows in San Diego, please comment. Thank you.
What nonsense. You discuss double or triple glazed windows and have walls as thick as an upper arm and insulation that is not worth the name. The US needs to rethink its whole concept of building houses. Everything has to be looked at holistically and not just the windows alone.
Get laminate if its purely to stop noise. Triple pane is almost the exact same as double pane. The STC ratings are basically the same and people have done tests showing there's almost no difference. Laminate is a huge improvement to both. Or even offset windows (its a double pane where one piece of glass is larger than the other, this helps disrupt frequency and dampen noise).
Click link for more Double and Triple pane window information with sources and links!
soundproofguide.com/all-the-advantages-of-double-and-triple-pane-windows/
Although often touted as an improvement in noise reduction, triples may or may not be an improvement over dual pane windows in sound blocking performance depending primarily in the overall width of the airspace and to the glass used in the construction.
For example, a dual pane window made using two lites of 1/8" glass and a 1" airspace will have pretty much the same sound performance as will a triple made with 1/8" glass and two 1/2" airspaces. The extra lite in the center is inconsequential in this example.
When the two lites of an IG unit are the same thickness they each allow sound waves at the resonant frequency of the glass sheet to pass with little propagation loss. This is known as coincidence dip.
As mentioned previously in the video, having two panes of unequal thickness does help block unwanted sound from passing through your windows, but this does not require a triple pane window to be effective, a dual pane will perform just as well assuming the other factors (glass thickness and airspace width) remain consistent.
Having two unequal thickness glass panes improves sound blocking performance because the different glass thicknesses resonate at different frequencies and attenuate the wavelength that passes easily through the other lite - nice and neat - and there is a simple formula for determining the coincidence dip frequency of different glass thicknesses: frequency = 12,500 / glass thickness (mm).
Also you might consider laminated glass as an option. Laminated glass has a damping effect on sound. Basically, the softer interlayer acts to absorb and diffuse the sound that passes through the glass.
There is very small difference between double and triple pane windows in terms of soundproofing unless you have laminated glass inserted. There is a lot of tests available in web.
My house is on a corner lot and we get a lot of noise from vehicles driving by or neighbors going for walks late at night. After have triple pane windows installed we noticed a major difference in noise from the outside which has made our sleeping much more comfortable.
which ones did you install? Did you install in all rooms facing that side? Dealing with the same issue right now, please reply.
can you let us know which window company you used?
@@M0stBlunt3d we replaced all the windows in our upper floor that have all our bedrooms. In Ontario Canada there was a government rebate which saved us a lot of money.
@@James-oj8kq We used a local glass company in Toronto called Moncada windows and doors. You should be able to purchase the same style of windows from any reputable window company.
Triple plane I feel is more useful for hot areas, we are having these installed in our house in Lahore, Pakistan where every advantage against the sun is very nice. So we are not installing them for the savings but the heat reduction. They are tinted with LOW-E coating on 2 outside panes. Just paid for them today, so let's see how it goes.
Keep us updated :)
How did it go?
How did it go , im also from pakistan lemme know man .
I would agree with you on sound as I live next to a public park and the city just added dogs to that Park making it a people and dog park . Before, it was an adult Park and on the opposite side there was a playground. Now it's a dog park and people come with their barking dogs just after sun up and to sundown. I have double pane but I'm preparing to replaceme the windows on the park side of the house with triple pane to reduce my pain.
No pun intended 🤣
Look into dual pane with one lite consisting of laminated glass, you will have better results than using triple in most cases.
I have very thick window sills that used to accommodate two sets of single-pane windows that at some point were replaced with a single double-pane window. Would it be more beneficial and economical for me to just add another double-pane window where one of the old singles used to be rather than replace the double with a triple?
I am renovating my home with a large south facing extension. Those windows will be triple glazed to make the living area more comfortable in both heat and cold (I'm in London), hadn't thought of soundproofing but this is a great benefit considering the room also has nothing either side or above it.
Thank you for this helpful video. I think it's definitely time to invest in a 3 pane window for my massive lounge window, for relief from our crazy neighbours lol
HELP****If triple glazed windows with mixed glass thickness help in reducing noise would you get further reduction in noise if there was an acoustic laminated glass as one of the glass panes? If so where would it be best placed, exterior, internal or interior??
Yes it does a glass expert told me , have u installed yet?
I would buy triple pane windows to reduce noise. I bought a double window with sound proofing coating from Thompson Creek. The room is very quite. It was an extra cost per window but it is worth it.
What is the difference between MLV and EVA vinyl like Quiet walls sound barrier from Home Depot? Which would you recommend?
Would you be concerned about triple leaf effect with triple pane glass?
Great question!, but no it isn't normally a concern unless the airspace between the lites in the triple pane are abnormally close together. Since the primary concern for triple pane windows is energy and not sound performance, the optimal glass spacing for energy performance negates the potential for triple leaf effect.
I have quadruple glazing in my house, and it is huge difference when i muted the traffic fully, than a triple glazing what just resonates when truck passes.
Great video. I’m looking at finishing a walkout basement that has a window in the back and glass sliding doors on the side to my patio. Looking to convert to a 2 channel audio space with TV so I’m mainly concerned with window resonance affecting my acoustics. Also interested in your thoughts on soundproofing the noise from furnace which will be walled in. Thanks.
Hey does anyone know if 3mm triple pane would work as soundproofing?? A window company is offering me but I'm not sure if it will truly block sounds
I used to live in a modern high rise condo next to a noise hwy. I think it only had double lane windows. But the sound insulation was amazing. W the windows closed, you can’t hear the hwy noise at all. I wasn’t sure if it was the glass or the tight seal bc unless I tightened the latch all the way, it’s still petty noisy.
Thanks for leaving a comment! You’re right, leaving it open just a crack will let up to 50% of the outside noise in.
@@soundproofguide could you do a video on what to look for during house search or type of construction that would result in a quiet house?
In the modern condo i used to live in, the sound insulation was amazing - which I took for granted. You can’t hear anything outside (not even the noisy hwy right outside) or between rooms. Maybe it was the solid doors, concrete floors/ceiling, modern construction, etc.
I now live in a 1950s house and I could hear everything. I’m thinking next time a new construction would be better. So I would appreciate your insight.
Do you know the brand of the double pane windows?
I really like your channel and your unbiased opinion. If I want to block the noise from my neighbors, mostly tv and voices, but I have a solid brick wall, should I add the drywall directly on it (maybe 2 layers of drywall with mlv between) ? Or should I also have a high density foam glued on the brick wall and the drywall on top of it ? I'm concerned that the sound will go from the brick wall directly to the drywall.
Mass loaded vinyl along with two layers of 5/8” drywall will be sufficient! Great question!
Very informative. You did nof talk about laminating. Would that further increase the soundproofing?
I would definitely go for triple pane where soundproofing is most required. I will be doing that soon!
Adding a laminated sheet on the window will do almost nothing for soundproofing.
@@soundproofguidethat's definitely not true. Laminating makes a big difference and there are definitely a good amount of videos showing this
@@chadpilled7913 Agreed. there are a lot of sites and videos clearly showing double pane and triple pane have practically no difference in sound proofing but laminate adds a large layer of soundproofing. Not sure if this guy making the video knows much about windows and soundproofing. I mean the STC rating on the windows clearly show triple pane is basically same as double and laminate is almost 50% more soundproofing than those two (can decrease by more than 10db).
apparently there is double double glazing with the panels tilted slightly in words and decoupled from the wall, using rubber.
double or triple what about glass thickness? should be considered ?
Triple-pane windows may not perform as well as Double Pane windows in regards to soundproofing because of the TRIPLE-LEAF-EFFECT. So, I am not sure if your video is correct.
I stayed.
My pump is very noisy. I will troubleshoot, utilizing your tips.
Thanks!
Best of luck!! 😊
Is there a quadruple pane window? 20‰ extra is totally fine if you are installing new windows anyways, for more comfort and less condensation.
Home Depot offers an acoustic pane on their double glazed window any thoughts
If the price is significantly lower than the 3 pane then go for it but if the price difference isn’t there, go with the 3 panes.
Which home Depot please? I can't find any here
@@leonz3012 I didn’t order it but I believe it’s a special order product
I’m from Wisconsin - Kentucky now. BIG difference temp and length of winter. It’s been decades since I’ve lived in the country - quiet. But, that has been suburbs until the last 3 years city. Horrific noise from preteen basketball outside windows. In the suburbs, I was fortunate NOT - to have rude neighbors beside and direct across from me who would let their pitbull’s and boxers bark all day and eve long. I’d have to run around house find corner to talk on phone for work at my desk. Same now with earplugs and white noise machine stilll hear that darn ball.
looking for a house now Out in the country. Would I purchase purchase triple pane? Yes. For even dog noise that carries. Heck yes.
Cost is one factor but comfort is another. With better windows, your house will be a lot more comfortable when the heating is off and it will stay warmer for longer.
If I install two triple pane windows on a double wall one on each side leaving a 4”-6” gap between windows will that help with soundproofing. It’s for a church nursery
Oh it should work!
That's way overkilling it...
Thank you 👍🙂
You’re welcome & thanks for watching!
I live in perfect weather San Diego, California. Very few companies carry triple pane windows out here, even though I live right next to a hospital undergoing construction. Sigh. If anyone has a contact for triple pane windows in San Diego, please comment. Thank you.
how about vacuum pane?
First 🥇 comments boss ☺️
Laminated glass windows are the best for soundproofing
Good info.
But please keep the zoom of the camera constant. The choppiness is highly distracting and annoying.
Good point! Thanks for the feedback 😊
What nonsense. You discuss double or triple glazed windows and have walls as thick as an upper arm and insulation that is not worth the name. The US needs to rethink its whole concept of building houses. Everything has to be looked at holistically and not just the windows alone.
I want triple pane because of noisy neighbors
Get laminate if its purely to stop noise. Triple pane is almost the exact same as double pane. The STC ratings are basically the same and people have done tests showing there's almost no difference. Laminate is a huge improvement to both. Or even offset windows (its a double pane where one piece of glass is larger than the other, this helps disrupt frequency and dampen noise).