I'm 48 years old so was around during the 90s hip hop area I've never like Jay z as a rapper or a person i don't care what the media pushes he's a vulture! PAC and big gave hov his whole career
Same thing with academics. He always talking about academics but I never that dude mention him at all. But the way he talks is like they have beef with each other
Tupac was and still is the biggest rap artist ever. He's well known all around the world he got people in Africa & all over mimicking him how many artists today are being mimicked around the world? Biggie? Nope! Nas? Nope! Jay-Z? Nope! Drake? Nope! 50 cent? Nope! Da Baby? Nope! Name one artist that surpassed Tupac and made a huge impact all across the world. None!
True. I live in France & these lil white French kids listen to Tupac and know the lyrics word for word correctly. I ask them do you understand what he’s saying in his songs? They say no but it sounds so good. These kids weren’t even born when he was alive. I’m like that’s what’s up. Long live Pac.
Fam I know you don’t like Hov but it was about who’s the best not biggest so being we’re talking about best how is Gipp 100 % right when tbh this whole debate is all opinions
Nobody is better than Pac! I’m sayin that with Nas being my favorite hip hop artist… Pac is soul, he doesn’t need to be “lyrical” … he was a poet the people’s champ
Sidebar Jay was always talking about retiring since the first album and we all know the story with vol.2 he was pushing bleek but the biggest difference from vol1 to vol 2 was the production! Every song from the intro down to the last song had great production and theme with the features. Jay was in a zone that album the vibe in ny was different but year 98 had a lot of dope albums
Big Gipp was correct Nobody till this day can match that album of all eyes 👀 on me point blank period Jayz is nice however he still isn’t and never will be Better than Nas PAC and Big
Jay only took over when there was no Big no pac and nas took years before he would drop and album so that was his opportunity to keep dropping consistently Donald’s serve 1 billion people a day however they don’t have the best burgers and fries 🍟
A lot of people don’t know that Kanye West started out with cash money and because Birdman pick Mannie Fresh they introduced him to Jay Z and Damdash and that’s how he got with Roc
Gilly wasn't the only one writing for Wayne.. Cory Gunz was the real pen behind Wayne!! That 100 bars was songs from the whole camp and most of those rhymes was Gunz.. amillie was Cory Gunz song all the way..
Being "Lyrical Miracle" is NY standard that's only one Attribute Actual "rapping" came from the south the term rap is southern based 2pac was had vocabulary he read books. Pac was more of Artist/Poet than Jay
20:00 ceno I heard the record companies was buying back the records to pad up jay z album sales they was doing it back in the day with the copies they brought during the week to gain momentum
I would say Jayz get more play on the west coast than down south ( he has south fans too) The whole east coast overall to other regions not just music NY is bias, NJ, Philly and DC bias too.
@@beattheodds6219 By that time the south took over the industry. New York was hating on South and West over 25 years Calling us "bammas" Eastcoast is still bias to people from South, MW and WC
@@BattleTruth nah man y'all just think it's beef because Tupac and biggie. There is no north vs south man. Niggas is missing out on good music tryna act like it's some regional rap beef.
Jayz could NEVER be Lebron. Jay-z wasn't a priodgy as a child Jay-z didn't get on till he was 26. Lebron was NEVER in anyone shadow jayz was behind Biggie. Lebron was a Number 1 pick jayz couldn't get sign. Lebron was great from day 1 jayz it took 3 albums to be in the mainstream and Blueprint for people to respect as a solo artist. Jay-z isn't number 1 in anything Lebron the number 1 scorer in nba history and playoff history. Jay-z didn't upset Anyone Lebron has the greatest upset in nba history beating a 73 win team down 3-1. Lebron has longevity avg 30 at 38 Jay-z ain't drop an album since 2017. I can keep going don't ever disrespect Lebron. Nas would be the Lebron of Hip hop the Goat. Both have huge upsets both were called the choosen one both have the greatest comebacks and upsets Lebron vs Warriors Nas vs Rocafella both drop Classics or championships on different franchises Nas Columbia Def jam Mass appeal Lebron Cavs Heat Lakers. Both are 1st round picks longevity Nas is Lebron Hate me Now is Lebron anthem to his career. Big is Jordan 2pac is Magic Jay-z would be kobe highly overrated both stole there whole styles from Big and Jordan. I can keep going but both 13th picks in the draft both are prop up due to replacing Biggie and Jordan
@@brianlarkins4250 You re right except comparing Jay to kobe. Jay is more overrated in his field than kobe was. Kobe was talked about as kid not like lebron but you could tell he was going to be a star. Even though kobe might not have been as good as Mj or Lebron you could tell he still had talent. Jay is just too overrated in his field. Jay been rapping since 1988 and only started getting buzz in 1998. Dame was like he took jay to so many labels and no one wanted to sign him, Jay contemplated quitting because no one was feeling him. Jay never had a buzz like DMX or 50 cent. Beyonce and his business dealings has been keeping him in the spot light all these years not his music.
Ceno always movin around in his house for one hour straight like he’s in a maze or something. I mean how many acres are in that house so he can’t stop walking
2pac and Jayz had completely different work ethics and styles Jayz doesn't write his mostly organize freestyles Pac wrote and knock his verses out in one take and moved on to next song
I don't think folks realize how big DMX was in the late 90s, he had 3 classic albums, starring in movies, his fire features, he was smashing Pink n Foxy Brown. 1998 was DMX year and 1999, Party up in here was a super anthem. Ja Rule owned 2000-2002,,,, 50 Cent ruled the music from 2003-2006.. Whole vol 3 was really a compilation album, stole Do it Again from a underground D.C. Go-Go Group, Big Pimpin wasn't even Jay-Z song, it was UGK song with a Jay-Z collab for a soundtrack then Rocafella bought the rights and Jay added an additional verse and put it on his album.. Jigga my Nigga was on the Ruff Ryders LP as a collab and he put that on Vol 3..
Wow your revisionist history is incredible🤣🤣 dmx has 3 classics 😮😮 vol 3 big pimpin had a extra jay verse when it dropped.. vol 3 wasn't a compilation dynasty was. But they knew it wasn't gonna sell like that so it became Jay's album to move units. Jigga my nigga was on vol 3 BEFORE jays album that's why it's a bonus track🤣🤣🤣yo y'all funny
@@chiefnem you do know Ruff Ryders Ride or Die came out before vol 3 right lol.... so uh yes Jigga my n*gga was a bonus track cuz it wasn't on his album first... Dynasty was turned to a Jay Z Lp so Roc a fella could renegotiate another deal with Def Jam cuz Jay owed them one last album for the first deal they made in 98 with the Rocafella imprint.. also DMX does have three classic albums that reached multi platinum status which is true.. Flesh of my Flesh, Itz Dark and Hell is hot,.And then there was X.... Jay Z had to include all songs on other albums as a bonus track... why do you think he made "Girls Bestfriend and Jigga my N*gga together on one track hidden in the Outro on Vol 3. .. Vol 3 wasn't a compilation but it should've been with the enormous amount of features he had..
You niggas love to rewrite history boy I tell ya lol. I’ll give you Dmx, but the rest of that nonsense you taking gotta stop. “Ja rule owned 2000-2002” which part? Cause jay outsold that boy throughout his whole career. By 2002, it was pretty much a wrap for that nigga. Hell I’ll even give you 50 from 03-06 but having a 3-4 year run is cool, but Jay was on fire BEFORE 50 and damn sure was on fire AFTER him as well. 50 even said himself, he wouldnt had sold that much on Curtis if it wasn’t for the Kanye battle. Even 50 knew his gimmick was over. Now all that other non sene you talking bout, stealing songs and putting songs as bonus features and sampling other artist is just some hating shit. All artist do that, if we knocking jay then 99% of these rapper need to be prosecuted as well.
@@blackjesus2473 you just flat out lied hahaha but since you wanna talk let's talk.. you say JayZ outsold Ja Rule basically huh from 2000-2002 okay... 2000-2001 Rule 3:36 6.3 million records Jay-Z Dynasty 2.5 million records 2001- 2002 Pain is Love 9 million records Blueprint 2.7 million records So yes Ja Rule owned 2000-2002 compared to Jay-Z, what were you saying again? That's not to mention all the featured songs Ja Rule was smashing compared to Jay-Z,.all the hit record features Ja Rule was giving artist, Ja Rule gave Jay-Z his first hit record with "Can I Get A" that sold the Vol 2 for Jay-Z... Jay wasn't selling records more than Ja Rule, and I didn't put Nelly in there cuz he was a pop artist basically during that time. I can even go back to 1999 Ja Rule Venni Vetti Vecci 4.5million sold Jay-Z Vol 3 sold 3 million huh... huh exactly!
It's all opinion based when it comes to hip hop like anything else. You ask ten different people about who the best rapper and you'll get 10 different answers.
I agree to an extent but there is a consensus on the top 5 , and 2pac biggie and nas are usually that holy trinity with the last two being debatable , so nas was right when he said , who's the best pac , nas & Big collectively, that's just the golden era ...knewer generations have a different set of top 5ives
If 50, Ja, Nelly or RIP, X are bigger than Hov; be honest, if they all dropped a album tomorrow, which one is the majority of the people going to cop or listen to first?
@@grippe25 Jay's relationship with Beyonce all these years and his business deals kept him in the spotlight and not his music. If Jay never met Beyonce he would have fallen off hard a long time ago. People all over the world have actually played the songs of those artists you mentioned more than they've ever played Jay Z. Outside of New York, the Tri state area and some parts of the East Coast no one is really playing or have ever bumped Jay Z's music like that.
@@SmithJackson-y3k Beyonce wouldn't be as big as she is if she didn't meet Jay. He was the bigger artist at the time and he writes for her, not the other way around. He remains relevant because of his verse on God Did, What's Free, What It Feels Like, and 444. They don't like Jay on the West Coast? I thought they loved Still Dre 🤔 Jay has more #1 albums than any solo artist. The East Coast bought all of them? Pretty sure we had a lot going on on 9/11 but rumor has it the Blueprint classic. Reasonable Doubt, classic. Black Album, classic. I could go on. And those aren't even his biggest album. lol
@@grippe25 This is false, Beyonce was more famous than Jay Z in the US and Worldwide when they met. Destiny's child was 1 of the biggest pop groups in history. they were known worldwide. Even today Jay is not even as famous worldwide as Eminem, 50, snoop, Dmx and Pac. If Jay was so big why doesn't he have a diamond album? Nelly, 50, Eminem, Pac, BIG, outkast all have 1. Jay even buys his own albums to go platinum. People confuse Jays success in business for his music impact.
My top 5 Mcs our 2pac,Biggie,Nas,Scarface,Ice Cube but because of egos the fans never gotten a chance to hear Jay-Z,Dmx,JaRule do that murder inc supergroup that would've been dope but all three artists had solo success careers regardless..........
No limit and cash Money had more motion and numbers. Remember when Jay-Z did the remix to Juvenile Ha? What about me and my girlfriend he took from Pac? Gettin bailed out like Ceno said.
Jay Z was not that guy back then. Everybody acting like they have amnesia. His wealth is one thing and him being smart is as well. People need to separate those.
@@maxpremium8628 Jay Z was never the guy. NYC overrated him because they needed somebody. Grammys shouldn't be a measuring stick for hip hop. The Grammy awards is an elitist ceremony and Jay and his wife have become part of the elite so they are gonna win lots of Grammys. Outside of New York and the East coast people have never felt Jay Z's music.
FOR ALL YOU KIDS' TEENS' YOUNG ADULTS: ONE THING THAT SEPARATED 2PAC from "ALL" Artist period..... Is at the time of PAC days Crack cocaine and gang violence drive by's, police abuse was Chaotic!!! PAC had the power to say " come on niggas let's ride on the Establishment ( whitey) and niggas wuda went!!! He had more power I think than Malcom X had in that 1960's generation. 1989-96 was treacherous in st.louis, Detroit, La,D.C.,New Orleans, Baltimore,New York,ECT. PAC had the power to make young niggas move from state to state.SO FOR THAT TUPAC WILL ALWAYS BE #1.
No Vol. 2 look at the track list. All but maybe 2 song has guests on it. Hard knocks Life, and Ride or Die. Every other song has guests appearances on it. It's Alright was a Memphis Bleek song they threw on there, the Kid Capri song was off Kid Capri album, Money Ain't A thang was probably supposed to be on JD project.....it plays and looks like a mixtape
It doesn’t matter about if he was correct or not. They may have been bigger and had bigger debuts but Jay z is still here and remained relevant lol so what he said doesn’t matter.
@@ericpurvis exactly he not doing anything. His wife the one making moves in music still. She keeping the family relevant. He just doing the SB halftime show like we care lol
He lost me when he said Kanye was the biggest artist.🤣🤣🤣🤣… when Kanye got there, jay had sold 5 mill of vol2, 3 mill of vol3 , 2 mill on the dynasty, 2 mill on the blueprint and another 3 mill on bP2. How TF was Kanye bigger? And he signed him along with dame and Biggs. I’m not talking about who believed in him first. Whose name was on the dotted line?
Ye first album outsole jay first 3 albums 😅 easily fuck u mean he came out the gate going platinum while jay had to keep dropping albums.its like a NBA play stat Patton
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I'm 48 years old so was around during the 90s hip hop area I've never like Jay z as a rapper or a person i don't care what the media pushes he's a vulture! PAC and big gave hov his whole career
Pac and biggie gave a Jay a CAREER?!?? Pac never even MET Jay z! Y’all are mad bitter
People are confusing Jigga's investments with his rap career and his access to billionaires who recite his lyrics.
Lol spot on
Over 10 number one albums begs to differ
Remember when karceno said that Jay-z dissed him. 😂😂😂😂
Which video 😂
Karceno is a nobody
Your kidding. He actually said that.
Same thing with academics. He always talking about academics but I never that dude mention him at all. But the way he talks is like they have beef with each other
We didn't bump Jay Z in Memphis. Tupac was the man everywhere.
And being from Atlanta myself I agreed 1000%with Gipp 🔥🔥💯
Because u from atl u supposed to say that
@@rayy180 fake news 🤔🚶🤷
Agree
Many people forget Snoops no limit run with the Eastiderz. That was a huge run on the Westcoast
for the Blue side yes
Yea but us in Louisiana wasn't feelin dat shyt. Down fa my niggas hit but dat was on c murder album too. Snoop whole style came from Mr. 3-2 anyway.
@@NA-gd3sd no doubt. I liked the no limit snoop way more than the death row snoop.
@@Karceno4Life I was raised on that music out here on the west coast.
Tupac was and still is the biggest rap artist ever. He's well known all around the world he got people in Africa & all over mimicking him how many artists today are being mimicked around the world? Biggie? Nope! Nas? Nope! Jay-Z? Nope! Drake? Nope! 50 cent? Nope! Da Baby? Nope! Name one artist that surpassed Tupac and made a huge impact all across the world. None!
1000% agree
Nobody 2Pac the 🐐
True. I live in France & these lil white French kids listen to Tupac and know the lyrics word for word correctly. I ask them do you understand what he’s saying in his songs? They say no but it sounds so good. These kids weren’t even born when he was alive. I’m like that’s what’s up. Long live Pac.
@@aiti12vip22 long live Pac!!!
That’s your opinion
Fam I know you don’t like Hov but it was about who’s the best not biggest so being we’re talking about best how is Gipp 100 % right when tbh this whole debate is all opinions
Exactly everything is opinion
Yo I never felt Jay Z music tbh like 50 cent definitely walked all over his numbers internationally lord have mercy
Nobody is better than Pac! I’m sayin that with Nas being my favorite hip hop artist… Pac is soul, he doesn’t need to be “lyrical” … he was a poet the people’s champ
Cool story
You sound crazy there a better rappers than Pac
He's gone bruh! Respect him but we gotta deal with the now!
PAC is Jordan
@@BattleTruth LL is Jordan
Ceno you been telling the truth for a minute too, glad Gipp keeping it 1000 💪🏿
Sidebar Jay was always talking about retiring since the first album and we all know the story with vol.2 he was pushing bleek but the biggest difference from vol1 to vol 2 was the production! Every song from the intro down to the last song had great production and theme with the features. Jay was in a zone that album the vibe in ny was different but year 98 had a lot of dope albums
But Iook at the platform he was on when he said that a Tupac bias platform so I don't take anything they do serious
98 was X year period. They played that man
Big Gipp was correct Nobody till this day can match that album of all eyes 👀 on me point blank period Jayz is nice however he still isn’t and never will be Better than Nas PAC and Big
Jay only took over when there was no Big no pac and nas took years before he would drop and album so that was his opportunity to keep dropping consistently Donald’s serve 1 billion people a day however they don’t have the best burgers and fries 🍟
All subjective, what criteria or metric is used to say anyone's the best?
Jayz is a person who uses people to get where he need to be after he done he kick u to the curb
"Only dudes moving units is em, pimp juice(nelly) and us"---Jay Z
And that was a BIG LIE because juvenile and CASHMONEY was selling millions
@@richgangpkst what you said lol
Hell of a lie too😅 Wayne was surpassing him at that point and a dozen other artists
A lot of people don’t know that Kanye West started out with cash money and because Birdman pick Mannie Fresh they introduced him to Jay Z and Damdash and that’s how he got with Roc
22:34 Karceno farted
😅😅😅😅
Gip is giving some good interviews
Damn I just realized how good of artist &music we had from the mid 90's to the mid 2000's damn I glad I got to witness all that greatness 😔👍💯💯💪😳😎
Outkast STanKonia album Fuckd over Jay s Dynasty album.
Kanye is better than Jay Z.
Don’t forget about NO LIMIT movement
Facts Gipp right
Great video Ceno 👑
Love the BG tribute at the end 🔥💯
It’s impossible for Ceno to have impartial discussions on Hov lol 😂
He said Jay dissed him on 8 mile soundtrack 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂😂
It's impossible for you Jay-Z dick riders to have an impartial discussion‼️🤣💯💯
@@novacain943 WE REMEMBER
@@novacain943 😂😂😂
Dag, it’s 75 in Richmond Va today. I don’t know how y’all do that cold like that
This is a Great Video btw, an honest assesment nun but Fax!!!!! And i love all Jay's earlier Albums
Hell to the yes!!!!
The Truth is ONLY WHEN CENO SAYS IT
You wrong about Jay on this one karceno
He’s absolutely 100%
Gilly wasn't the only one writing for Wayne.. Cory Gunz was the real pen behind Wayne!! That 100 bars was songs from the whole camp and most of those rhymes was Gunz.. amillie was Cory Gunz song all the way..
Yup Ceno! I said the same thing he was 100 percent correct
Facts
Big Facts I heard no lies Ceno 💯
Hard Knock life went 6x platinum. Black album went 5 or 6x platinum. Blueprint 1 and 2 both went 3x platinum. Ceno wrong a lot of the time.
Ayo im dead, my son jumped into the active blizzard super casually
Facts 💯 % as far as others who don't know , they weren't there at that time to understand the #s on who did more or less.
Being "Lyrical Miracle" is NY standard that's only one Attribute
Actual "rapping" came from the south the term rap is southern based
2pac was had vocabulary he read books. Pac was more of Artist/Poet than Jay
Facts Pac had words that's why Pac music is relevant today in a lot of Biggie's music in some other 90s artists sound like the 90s
20:00 ceno I heard the record companies was buying back the records to pad up jay z album sales they was doing it back in the day with the copies they brought during the week to gain momentum
I believe it cuz Jay's biggest albums would go multi platinum in the states but only went Gold internationally..
Jay pulled this same stunt again with 4:44. he made a deal with another company to buy 4:44 so he could go platinum Asap. look it up
Dmx was the east coast 2pac!!!!!
I would say Jayz get more play on the west coast than down south ( he has south fans too)
The whole east coast overall to other regions not just music
NY is bias, NJ, Philly and DC bias too.
D.C. NEVER FOLLOWED RAPPERS
ONLY AREA NOT TO DO SO IN HISTORY
D.C. NEVER FOLLOWED RAPPERS
ONLY AREA NOT TO DO SO IN HISTORY
@@beattheodds6219 By that time the south took over the industry. New York was hating on South and West over 25 years
Calling us "bammas" Eastcoast is still bias to people from South, MW and WC
@@BattleTruth nah man y'all just think it's beef because Tupac and biggie. There is no north vs south man. Niggas is missing out on good music tryna act like it's some regional rap beef.
@@beattheodds6219 I mentioned nothing about 2pac or biggie. How old are you?
New York always hated on other regions that's no secret.
Jay-Z is the LeBron James of the rap industry‼️💯💯
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jayz could NEVER be Lebron. Jay-z wasn't a priodgy as a child Jay-z didn't get on till he was 26. Lebron was NEVER in anyone shadow jayz was behind Biggie. Lebron was a Number 1 pick jayz couldn't get sign. Lebron was great from day 1 jayz it took 3 albums to be in the mainstream and Blueprint for people to respect as a solo artist. Jay-z isn't number 1 in anything Lebron the number 1 scorer in nba history and playoff history. Jay-z didn't upset Anyone Lebron has the greatest upset in nba history beating a 73 win team down 3-1. Lebron has longevity avg 30 at 38 Jay-z ain't drop an album since 2017. I can keep going don't ever disrespect Lebron.
Nas would be the Lebron of Hip hop the Goat. Both have huge upsets both were called the choosen one both have the greatest comebacks and upsets Lebron vs Warriors Nas vs Rocafella both drop Classics or championships on different franchises Nas Columbia Def jam Mass appeal Lebron Cavs Heat Lakers. Both are 1st round picks longevity Nas is Lebron Hate me Now is Lebron anthem to his career.
Big is Jordan 2pac is Magic Jay-z would be kobe highly overrated both stole there whole styles from Big and Jordan. I can keep going but both 13th picks in the draft both are prop up due to replacing Biggie and Jordan
@@brianlarkins4250 You re right except comparing Jay to kobe. Jay is more overrated in his field than kobe was. Kobe was talked about as kid not like lebron but you could tell he was going to be a star. Even though kobe might not have been as good as Mj or Lebron you could tell he still had talent. Jay is just too overrated in his field. Jay been rapping since 1988 and only started getting buzz in 1998. Dame was like he took jay to so many labels and no one wanted to sign him, Jay contemplated quitting because no one was feeling him. Jay never had a buzz like DMX or 50 cent. Beyonce and his business dealings has been keeping him in the spot light all these years not his music.
Man jay was quiet as a church mouse when pac was dissing him and NY artists who fw bad boy 🤷🏿♂️
@@brianlarkins4250 this is my first time seeing this, but as much as you wrote concerning my post I disagree with you‼️🤷🏿♂️💯💯
I loved State Property! For real, I hate what went down with Rocafella Records.
Ceno always movin around in his house for one hour straight like he’s in a maze or something. I mean how many acres are in that house so he can’t stop walking
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Looooooooooooooool
2pac and Jayz had completely different work ethics and styles
Jayz doesn't write his mostly organize freestyles
Pac wrote and knock his verses out in one take and moved on to next song
Don't get it fucked up back in the days he uses to write and he can write if need be but he mostly freestyle but he can do both.
HOV Vol. 2 album is literally a ruff ryders album lmao. And everyone on g unit went platinum individually. Even yay
It's still one of his strongest albums though. Beats, beats, beats.
@@theodorebennefield2030 absolutely. I didn't mean any negativity in my comment.
Brother I got nothing but love for you stay real
I don't think folks realize how big DMX was in the late 90s, he had 3 classic albums, starring in movies, his fire features, he was smashing Pink n Foxy Brown. 1998 was DMX year and 1999, Party up in here was a super anthem. Ja Rule owned 2000-2002,,,, 50 Cent ruled the music from 2003-2006.. Whole vol 3 was really a compilation album, stole Do it Again from a underground D.C. Go-Go Group, Big Pimpin wasn't even Jay-Z song, it was UGK song with a Jay-Z collab for a soundtrack then Rocafella bought the rights and Jay added an additional verse and put it on his album.. Jigga my Nigga was on the Ruff Ryders LP as a collab and he put that on Vol 3..
Wow your revisionist history is incredible🤣🤣 dmx has 3 classics 😮😮 vol 3 big pimpin had a extra jay verse when it dropped.. vol 3 wasn't a compilation dynasty was. But they knew it wasn't gonna sell like that so it became Jay's album to move units. Jigga my nigga was on vol 3 BEFORE jays album that's why it's a bonus track🤣🤣🤣yo y'all funny
@@chiefnem you do know Ruff Ryders Ride or Die came out before vol 3 right lol.... so uh yes Jigga my n*gga was a bonus track cuz it wasn't on his album first... Dynasty was turned to a Jay Z Lp so Roc a fella could renegotiate another deal with Def Jam cuz Jay owed them one last album for the first deal they made in 98 with the Rocafella imprint.. also DMX does have three classic albums that reached multi platinum status which is true.. Flesh of my Flesh, Itz Dark and Hell is hot,.And then there was X.... Jay Z had to include all songs on other albums as a bonus track... why do you think he made "Girls Bestfriend and Jigga my N*gga together on one track hidden in the Outro on Vol 3. .. Vol 3 wasn't a compilation but it should've been with the enormous amount of features he had..
You niggas love to rewrite history boy I tell ya lol. I’ll give you Dmx, but the rest of that nonsense you taking gotta stop. “Ja rule owned 2000-2002” which part? Cause jay outsold that boy throughout his whole career. By 2002, it was pretty much a wrap for that nigga. Hell I’ll even give you 50 from 03-06 but having a 3-4 year run is cool, but Jay was on fire BEFORE 50 and damn sure was on fire AFTER him as well. 50 even said himself, he wouldnt had sold that much on Curtis if it wasn’t for the Kanye battle. Even 50 knew his gimmick was over. Now all that other non sene you talking bout, stealing songs and putting songs as bonus features and sampling other artist is just some hating shit. All artist do that, if we knocking jay then 99% of these rapper need to be prosecuted as well.
@@blackjesus2473 you just flat out lied hahaha but since you wanna talk let's talk.. you say JayZ outsold Ja Rule basically huh from 2000-2002 okay...
2000-2001
Rule 3:36 6.3 million records
Jay-Z Dynasty 2.5 million records
2001- 2002
Pain is Love 9 million records
Blueprint 2.7 million records
So yes Ja Rule owned 2000-2002 compared to Jay-Z, what were you saying again? That's not to mention all the featured songs Ja Rule was smashing compared to Jay-Z,.all the hit record features Ja Rule was giving artist, Ja Rule gave Jay-Z his first hit record with "Can I Get A" that sold the Vol 2 for Jay-Z... Jay wasn't selling records more than Ja Rule, and I didn't put Nelly in there cuz he was a pop artist basically during that time. I can even go back to 1999
Ja Rule Venni Vetti Vecci 4.5million sold
Jay-Z Vol 3 sold 3 million huh... huh exactly!
Salute to Karceno - HipHop Historian 🤝
I really the drugs etc slowed DMX career down I feel he could have been bigger (pause)than Diddy and Jay-Z 💯💯💯
Big Gipp is the man.
It's all opinion based when it comes to hip hop like anything else. You ask ten different people about who the best rapper and you'll get 10 different answers.
the way it should be
I agree to an extent but there is a consensus on the top 5 , and 2pac biggie and nas are usually that holy trinity with the last two being debatable , so nas was right when he said , who's the best pac , nas & Big collectively, that's just the golden era ...knewer generations have a different set of top 5ives
@Karceno4Life quick question, So 50 and DMX was better than Jay simply because they sold more records and had a bigger movement??
@@Karceno4Life Jay Z had a bigger movement than Nas and sold more records than Nas, So Jay was better than Nas.
@@naturaloxx9606 the consensus top 5 is pac biggie Jay z nas and Eminem. Nobody should disagree with that
Jay z piggy back off Kanye west
Karceno has added Pharrell Williams hate to his list lol.
People need to go see why Jay z & Rocafella left the Roc Da Mic tour early
Why?
If 50, Ja, Nelly or RIP, X are bigger than Hov; be honest, if they all dropped a album tomorrow, which one is the majority of the people going to cop or listen to first?
This is dumb convo
@@derickmason2761 Not at all. Jay came out before all of them and is the only one still releasing relevant music. 💯
@@grippe25 Jay's relationship with Beyonce all these years and his business deals kept him in the spotlight and not his music. If Jay never met Beyonce he would have fallen off hard a long time ago. People all over the world have actually played the songs of those artists you mentioned more than they've ever played Jay Z. Outside of New York, the Tri state area and some parts of the East Coast no one is really playing or have ever bumped Jay Z's music like that.
@@SmithJackson-y3k Beyonce wouldn't be as big as she is if she didn't meet Jay. He was the bigger artist at the time and he writes for her, not the other way around. He remains relevant because of his verse on God Did, What's Free, What It Feels Like, and 444. They don't like Jay on the West Coast? I thought they loved Still Dre 🤔 Jay has more #1 albums than any solo artist. The East Coast bought all of them? Pretty sure we had a lot going on on 9/11 but rumor has it the Blueprint classic. Reasonable Doubt, classic. Black Album, classic. I could go on. And those aren't even his biggest album. lol
@@grippe25 This is false, Beyonce was more famous than Jay Z in the US and Worldwide when they met. Destiny's child was 1 of the biggest pop groups in history. they were known worldwide. Even today Jay is not even as famous worldwide as Eminem, 50, snoop, Dmx and Pac. If Jay was so big why doesn't he have a diamond album? Nelly, 50, Eminem, Pac, BIG, outkast all have 1. Jay even buys his own albums to go platinum. People confuse Jays success in business for his music impact.
What I enjoyed about his character as a person is that he gave those props that deserved it 💪🏾
I AGREE CENO
It's crazy cause Kanye was not only Roc a fellas best and most successful artist, he became more successful than Jay Z.
Oh hell yeah, I forgot how Wayne ripped that beat
My top 5 Mcs our 2pac,Biggie,Nas,Scarface,Ice Cube but because of egos the fans never gotten a chance to hear Jay-Z,Dmx,JaRule do that murder inc supergroup that would've been dope but all three artists had solo success careers regardless..........
Man you rite about busta rhymes I never knew what Busta said in none of his songs
He's been retiring since reasonable doubt... it was suppose to be a one shot type deal
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What about Song Cry wasn't that on volume 2
That was on Blueprint
Jay not even the best and King of NYC Rakim Big Nas all better
I always watch my man videos on 2x, I ain’t got all day…
Too many damn commercials smh
Jay will rap circles around all of them why he number 1 hammer sold more than him 2 is hammer the goat
No limit and cash Money had more motion and numbers. Remember when Jay-Z did the remix to Juvenile Ha? What about me and my girlfriend he took from Pac? Gettin bailed out like Ceno said.
If there was no Jay Z there would be no Kanye West. This came out of Kanye's mouth. Facts
Yes ceno back in his realm, you been garbage all February
What's the use of the Truth, if ya Can't tell ah lie"
People don’t want to face the facts.
Jay Z was not that guy back then. Everybody acting like they have amnesia. His wealth is one thing and him being smart is as well. People need to separate those.
Held new York down 6 summers
Top Grammy winner most number 1 albums 🐐
@@maxpremium8628 Jay Z was never the guy. NYC overrated him because they needed somebody. Grammys shouldn't be a measuring stick for hip hop. The Grammy awards is an elitist ceremony and Jay and his wife have become part of the elite so they are gonna win lots of Grammys. Outside of New York and the East coast people have never felt Jay Z's music.
Yall keep Hov name in yall mouth
Of course this Jay-Z hater would agree. He sound sooooooooooooo happy.🤣
Jigga can spit tho don’t get it twisted lol
I see you is not worried about the snow 🌨️ in your truck.Ron Ron
What ceno know the bars 😂😂😂😂 🙌🏾
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Oh no karceno is about to drive again
FOR ALL YOU KIDS' TEENS' YOUNG ADULTS: ONE THING THAT SEPARATED 2PAC from "ALL" Artist period..... Is at the time of PAC days Crack cocaine and gang violence drive by's, police abuse was Chaotic!!! PAC had the power to say " come on niggas let's ride on the Establishment ( whitey) and niggas wuda went!!! He had more power I think than Malcom X had in that 1960's generation. 1989-96 was treacherous in st.louis, Detroit, La,D.C.,New Orleans, Baltimore,New York,ECT. PAC had the power to make young niggas move from state to state.SO FOR THAT TUPAC WILL ALWAYS BE #1.
50 if you look at it was the Eastcoast version of Ice cube
Question, Are you driving through 3 to 5 inches of snow like nothing, if so what tires do you have...lol?! 🤣😂😅😆
Hardknock Life Vol. 2 album is really just a compilation album featuring Jay Z. Almost plays like a mixtape as oppose to an album
Facts!!
You thinking of Dynasty
@@ArtisanWindchimes That one too. Are you aware that was supposed to be on the same level as P Diddy and the Family album?
No Vol. 2 look at the track list. All but maybe 2 song has guests on it. Hard knocks Life, and Ride or Die. Every other song has guests appearances on it. It's Alright was a Memphis Bleek song they threw on there, the Kid Capri song was off Kid Capri album, Money Ain't A thang was probably supposed to be on JD project.....it plays and looks like a mixtape
@@ReyHugoTelevision614 oh Money Ain't a Thang was on JDs Debut Album first and he allowed Jay to put it on Vol 2 as a bonus track a year later.
Bone thugs was bigger that roc!
It doesn’t matter about if he was correct or not. They may have been bigger and had bigger debuts but Jay z is still here and remained relevant lol so what he said doesn’t matter.
What is Mr Carter still doing exactly cause Im not seeing it....
@@ericpurvis exactly he not doing anything. His wife the one making moves in music still. She keeping the family relevant. He just doing the SB halftime show like we care lol
He wouldn't put the right energy behind Siegel because he was too scared of him being bigger than himself which he would've been.
Jay z is wealthy for the same reasons that Rihanna is wealthy. It’s their business acumen and not the music.
@wintersantiago2274 Rihanna is not a rapper tho there's no threat with 2 different genres of music.
He lost me when he said Kanye was the biggest artist.🤣🤣🤣🤣… when Kanye got there, jay had sold 5 mill of vol2, 3 mill of vol3 , 2 mill on the dynasty, 2 mill on the blueprint and another 3 mill on bP2. How TF was Kanye bigger? And he signed him along with dame and Biggs. I’m not talking about who believed in him first. Whose name was on the dotted line?
Tbh even though I think Kanye is overrated, I feel kanye would have still made it without them.
Ye first album outsole jay first 3 albums 😅 easily fuck u mean he came out the gate going platinum while jay had to keep dropping albums.its like a NBA play stat Patton
Saying Jay Z is the #1 best rapper in the world is like saying LeBron James is the best Basketball player of all time.
Also Ja rule save that nigga career in 1998 remember Can't I get a they don't like to talk about that he really helped him out .
Jay z was never ever poppn in the South he just a local rap star
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I’ve played all over the US / abroad since ‘86 til present day and call bs on your comment.
Yet he sells out every tour down south 😂
Then how does he sell out tours in the us? And was doing this before Beyoncé. I’m confused. Please break it down.
But sold out Arenas though
He was 💯 right
Jay z never was the guy in any era
Snoop and nas
Pac and Big
Ja and dmx Eminem Ludacris
Kanye and Rick Ross
🙏🙏Blessings forever GOD loves y'all too forever tell everyone you know and don't know. Jesus loves y'all too forever. Teach everyone how to see and enjoy their blessings too foreverm.
You killed that B.G impersonation lmao good video
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“I never change “ BluePrint Classic 👑👤🎚️🎛️
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Yo you be totally out of line bout some of your J shit and you say like the video why would I do that when I totally disagree with what you're saying
Gipp was right tho. . But the people crowned hov, like it or not
Factsssssss he was sooooo right and on point
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