@@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 depends on your definition of a blueprint. You could argue that Chris Evert in the late 70s was the first prominent player to play the modern game involving strong, sharp groundstrokes from the back (with a one-handed forehand and two-handed drive backhand) and few moves to the net. Tracy Austin and Andrea Jaegar played similar games in that era. At that time the conventional game was serve volleying and a one-handed backhand mostly hit with slice. Nick Bolletieri then upgraded that style with more powerful flat ground strokes. His pupils in the 80s included Carling Bassett, who was like an early Mary Pierce. His 90s pupils included Jennifer Capriati, Mary Pierce, Andre Agassi and Jim Courier (all with similar games). Seles was also a Bolletieri, protege, her two handed forehand didn't take off but her game plan was overall the same. She and Agassi were the most successful Bolletieri pupils ever.
I have great admiration for Monica Seles.She is still in 2023 I am sure a liked personality on the tennis tour .She will be remembered for endurance and fame.
I am a huge Federer fan - been so since 2006 Australian Open - and also an extremely avid tennis player because of him - and I am hugely impressed with Monica Seles. I never watched a whole lot of her tennis before, until this week - when I watched this little video titled "the quick hands of Monica Seles" - you could really see just how special a talent she was. And on top of that, just like Federer she is a super genuinely nice and good person. Very very easy to root for.
@@adithyar5129 No, I am responding to every single comment that denigrates Steffi. It says a lot about Selestial nutters that they can only celebrate their fave by denigrating Steffi. Whining about a minor stabbing when her main opponent was hampered by multiple nasty family scandals AND a virtually career-ending injury at the tender age of 27 is truly rich.
@@carrerau7138я тоже обожаю Штеффи❤. Но нужно быть честным--- сумашедший украл у нас великую дуэль лучших теннисисток того времени. Конечно, Моника добилась бы большего наверняка. Но ведь и Штеффи не стояла на месте, а прогрессировала и улучшалась с каждым годом. После возвращения Моника была другой, а Штеффи еще лучше, Гюндхард очень улучшил ее теннис.
Steffi had to play this final injured, full of pain killers. And her dad had been jailed just a few weeks earlier. But yes, Seles was better than ever in the first 14 months of her comeback. Sadly then injuries took over.
Sadly her food disorder took over afterwards. And she couldn't fight against them while being on the Pro-tennis tour simultaneously. It took her years after her professionell career to loss wait. She required a lot of patiences and assistance due to her trauma & her gained weight to "love" herself again. Furthermore she spend two of her best years away from the sport. Suddenly she wasn't a teenager anymore & every Newcomer was taller/or more muscular than her (before the '00s). She couldn't keep up with the rising Sexappeal on court & probably didn't wanna wear a revealing mini skirt, too. I think the Outfits from the 80s & early 90s looked far better. Seles and Graf always looked stunning without showing almost the entire leg & wearing tanktops. These days (2024) at the right climate conditions it is possible that a sudden wind blow show us a female tennis players underwear. Why? So not necessary - I watch sport & not *it. It let's them come across less professional wearing those hideous dresses at times. Nowadays those Outfits get shorter and shorter. Well, sadly times have evolved backwards. Such a superficial & shallow socitey at times (2024). I guess without the attack, her father's early death, her mental & physical "injuries" and the different type of upcoming female players - ended her career sooner than expected in 2003/04 (last match on the WTA tour). Officially it took five more years before her Manager made it Public that she isn't going to return (2008) again.
@@999999SkyGuy жаль, что в момент появления Селеш ВТА не запретили эти сумашедшие крики на корте. Именно Селеш стала первой орущей теннисисткой, а сейчас орет каждая вторая((((
@@999999SkyGuy another problem she had was all the trainers wanted her to go to the gym to lose weight. She later learnt, after retiring, that she could lose weight by walking and activities she enjoyed more. Which is a good lesson to others, not everyone is cut out for the gym, and you if you truly can't stand the gym you won't be able to keep up a gym routine to lose weight, there are alternatives.
So glad she came back after the stabbing. Professional tennis for me was not the same in her absence. And the stat in the video is wrong, before the stabbing she had won eight grand slams not seven.
I prefered Steffi like style of game, but in 1995 I was too much happy for the return of Monica. She played an excellent tournament and with her beautiful smile she demonstrated her joy to come in field. The final against Graf was one of better of all the times.
Demanded isn't exactly right. The tour asked them if they wanted to freeze her ranking at 1. All the top players said no. Except Jennifer Capriati. Years later Capriati asked Monica to deliver her induction speech into the International Tennis Hall of Fame. It came full circle.
@@ferdyspears Fake news. All the top players present at the vote the WTA held in Rome (week after the stabbing) - including Capriati - voted against Seles keeping her #1 ranking except Sabatini who abstained. Steffi was not in Rome, though.
@@petroszakhariadis8623 No, Sabatini didn't vote for Seles. And Steffi never voted against Seles. That are the facts. Selestial nutters love to lie about this.
However, she was co-ranked with Graf at #1 after her return for 64 weeks. It would have been awkward to have someone ranked at #1 in 1993, 1994 and most of 1995 who didn't compete in the sport.
Monika Seles and Novak Djokovic have two things in common. 1. Unbelievable concentration in every point, mentally the two strongest players in tennis ever in my humble opinion. 2. Both were born in Serbia, she in Novi Sad and he in Belgrade.👍
It wasn't a horrific injury. She was actually stabbed during a televised match in Germany by a monster who basically got away with it. It was an atrocity. Unspeakably evil.
@@carrerau7138you need to get a life and stop trolling. She was a 19 year old girl, attacked in a way that hasn’t happened before or since. The combined physical and mental injury was significant - kept her out of the game for a significant period and continued to impede her on her return. She should be applauded for coming back.
@@benwyld9149 Thousands of 19-year-old girls have suffered minor stab wounds. I don‘t think many of them skipped office for more than 2 years. I don’t believe this “trauma“ narrative since Seles wasn’t willing to provide the court of the Parche trial with her medical records. If the judges had had credible evidence for a deep trauma Parche never would have got only a suspended prison sentence.
@@benwyld9149 What was so “horrific“ about that attack? It was just a boning knife, not exactly well-suited for stabbing. Consequently the wound was not very deep, it needed only one stitch to close. No evidence for trauma was presented at the Parche trial.
I can tell you, Monica is one of those who started the grunting on court, hahaha along with Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. I was so bothered by it back then and I still hate it now, HAHAHAH.
@@ThePoui777 Even a slumping Steffi was 3-2 win/loss (8-5 in sets) against #1 Seles pre-stabbing. A not-anymore-slumping Steffi against a Seles with a dying father and her binge eating disorder would have been a very one-sided affair.
No, the biggest if is what Steffi could have achieved without the Graf Blackmail Scandal. She had won 8 of the last 9 slams and suffered only 7 losses in the last 3.5 years before.
Before the stabbing in April 90 Seles had beaten Steffi a mere 4 times. Sabatini had done it 11 times, Navratilova 9 times, Evert 6 times, Sanchez 5 times. What are you trying to achieve with your dumb lie, pal?
I agree with samulic8000, Monica Seles is still the best of the Best up to date. My favorite players then were Monica Seles, Chris Evert, and Gabriela Sabatini; a trilogy of liberal tennis playing.
@@carrerau7138 Yeah, right; that is why a crazed German fan stabbed Monica Seles in the shoulder when she was playing S. Graf. Graf always had difficulty beating Seles.
@@carrerau7138going to start calling you Gunther Parche Jr.. you truly are obsessed with trying to diminish Seles' accomplishments just to lift up Graf. You truly are a sad individual.
@@jamesr2164 Haters gonna hate, but Monica's place in tennis history remains secure, fortunately. Everyone who follows the game knows what the score is regarding her career and what happened to her at her peak, which of course unjustly took her out of the game.
@@slc2466Seles‘s injury had healed within a few weeks. It was her decision alone to skip the tour for more than 2 years. And conveniently return when Steffi was engulfed in yet another family scandal. But Seles had miscalculated - this time she wasn’t able to profit from Steffi’s woes (as she did in 1990-92).
@@carrerau7138And here you are again you are absolutely obsessed with trying to diminish Seles' accomplishments and those that feel otherwise. You truly are as sad individual.
@@jamesr2164 You are a liar, I never try to diminish Seles's accomplishments. It is YOU and your despicable comrades who CONSTANTLY try to diminish STEFFFI'S accomplishments. Everybody knows that Seles only won so much in the early 90s because Steffi was in a bad slump (due to off-court problems). Steffi had made 13 slam finals in a row - and suddenly missed 6 of the next 10 slam finals. Steffi was 20-3 win/loss against Sabatini - and suddenly went 1-7 win/loss against the Argentinian. If that is not a slump.... You are a fanatical hater,, obviously an American. I am sometimes afraid for Steffi, living in a violent country with so many fanatical haters there....,
Can't believe this highlights reel consists more of errors than winners... In the Novotna match alone Seles saved 2 set points in the first set with 2 straight amazing winners . Never shown
Любимая теннисистка Штеффи Граф❤❤❤ Ее соперничество с Селеш было захватывающим и очень жалко, что так трагично прервалось на 2 года. Но это не умаляет ни в коей мере заслуг Штеффи на корте. Моника вернулась еще совсем молодой, но уже не смогла повторить успех 1990-92 годов, Граф в это время еще больше спрогрессировала и с Гюндхардом ее теннис стал практически непробиваемым.
Let's be real if that Graf fanatic hadn't stabbed Monica. Steffi would have 8-10 less Grand Slams. As far as im concerned theres an asterisk next to Steffi's name
Graf wouldn't even be in any GOAT conversation if not for the stabbing. Even with the stabbing she still does not have the most slams or most tournaments. She's not the best at the AO, FO, WB, or USO. She's not the best on clay, grass, hardcourts, or carpet. Basically, she has most weeks at number one and the most German Open titles. That's not enough.
@@jm7804Without the Seles stabbing Steffi would have won Wimbledon 94 (because the draw would have been different). And several slam wins against the Serbian Screamer would only have strengthened her legacy.
@@benchick3565 Exactly. Steffi won only 6 slams during Seles‘s absence; the idea of Steffi winning 8-10 slams less is therefore preposterous. Maybe this Selestial nutter thinks Steffi would not have won FO 99 due to a minor stab wound Seles suffered 6 (!) years before….? 😂🤣 These 6 Steffi slams during Seles‘s absence were AO 94, FO 93 & 95, Wim 93 & 95, USO 93. Discussions about Steffi’s two Wimbledon titles would be ridiculous, obviously. Even Steffi‘s USO 93 win is a no-brainer, IMO, considering that Seles never beat Steffi on such a fast hard court surface. AO 94? Steffi was so much better in winter 94 at the AO and in Tokyo than in 93; she was devastating in the AO final, one of her best matches ever. I don’t see how Seles would have beaten her there. Leaves us with the FOs in 93 and 95. However, Steffi was considerably stronger in those two years than in 90 and 92 when she narrowly lost two FO finals against Seles. But what the hell, let’s give Monica one of those two FOs. But as I have said already - with Seles in the draw Steffi most certainly would not have drawn Lori McNeil in the first round of Wimbledon 94. And therefore won the championship like she also did in 91-93 and 95/96. So 22 slams for Steffi anyway, stabbing or no stabbing!
It was a minor stab wound suffered in public on a tennis court. Thank God it was not a horrific injury - the wound could be closed by a doctor with one stitch.
@@carrerau7138 yes I understand that but even if she was stabbed with a pencil and the puncture wound was less than 1 inch she was still stabbed and not sure why they would just say she was “injured” on court
@@carrerau7138 because a horrific injury could be me falling on my own. That’s totally different than someone wanting you dead at the place you work. And the fact that it was a super fan of her biggest rival. It was basically a hit on seles and 20 years later they water it down to “she had an injury on court”. What a slap in the face to seles who never recovered mentally from someone wanting her dead
@@phantomtroupe8430 No one wanted Seles dead! And no one denies that her (not-horrific!!) injury was caused by an attack. He was no "super fan", BTW. He wasn't even a tennis fan. He was in love with Steffi, his idol as a woman. She could have been an actress or a singer, didn't matter. And he thought he could show his love to Steffi (!) by attacking her biggest opponent. That was his point and nothing else. Again, he was a psychiatric case and not a tennis fan.
So disrespectful from Graf to go hug and high five her family before shaking hands with Monica. As for the handshake between the two, notice how it was always real nice and friendly when Monica lost but real cold when Graf lost. Monica was graceful in defeat. Graf was a sore loser.
Monica barely shook Steffi's hand after the 92 Wimbledon final. The two were never friends and genuinely disliked each other, even before the stabbing. Lets be clear on that.
Definitely Monica was the best during 90 - 95 wherein Steffi was little shorter than Monica but Steffi had luck which Monica lacked else one with 21 GS and another with 9 GS is something which one may think.
WTF!!!! HORRIFIC INJURY????? SHE WAS STABBED ON THE BACK BY A GRAF FAN (who by the way did not go to jail)!!!! THATS NOT AN INJURY, THATS ATTEMPTED MURDER ... Ok i was gonna watch this but now im not
Seles played her two best ever USO tournaments in 1995 and 1996. Clearly better than in 1991 and 1992 when she won the title. But THIS time it was Steffi was waiting in the finals, not Sanchez, not old Navratilova. And not a slumping Steffi. And so Monica lost of course.
I am biggest fan but she is not the best ever …to me that is Serena Williams hands down …I will say that Monica when at her best was better than most of her competitors including Graf etc…only the Williams sisters and maybe Davenport weee better ..I know Davenport had a winning record but all those notches were not against the best version and not moving the best is a killer against Lindsay
Serena??? Who won only 30 % of the tournaments she played? Steffi won 50 % of hers and that against better competition! Plus she won the Golden Slam whereas your Serena faltered even on the threshold of a normal Grand Slam. So stop insulting the great Steffi, please. Nationalism in sports should go only so far....
With a huge asterisk….after that crazed fan took out her biggest threat. Monica doesn’t get stabbed in ‘93 and there’s no way SG has the Slam count she does.
@@jamesr2164 “Günter“, please. Don‘t butcher the name of your church‘s founding father. The 1995 USO “has nothing to do with“ Steffi? Did you somehow forget the final…? 😂😂😂
I've never seen such a sloppy video in my life. Factual errors abound and instead of the fantastic rallies Monica produced there we can see unforced errors.
No, there had been many players in the past on the men's and women's tour that emoted sound when striking the ball way before Seles arrived. I on the other hand have no problem with grunting. Yes some players can be quiet as a mouse, but in all reality it is a very physically grueling sport so it's not surprising that most players emote some kind of sound when playing a match.
Get your eyes examined. Steffi was actually really annoyed that Seles tried to rile up the partisan crowd even more by claiming it was an ace. It was not even close, you clown!
Monica, I love you!! What a fantastic player!!
Monica Seles is amazing. She's the blueprint of modern day power tennis. She also looks like a great person off court.
She’s one of the greats, but she’s definitely not the blueprint lol
@@JCole-fg3rr So who is the blue print?
@@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 depends on your definition of a blueprint. You could argue that Chris Evert in the late 70s was the first prominent player to play the modern game involving strong, sharp groundstrokes from the back (with a one-handed forehand and two-handed drive backhand) and few moves to the net. Tracy Austin and Andrea Jaegar played similar games in that era. At that time the conventional game was serve volleying and a one-handed backhand mostly hit with slice.
Nick Bolletieri then upgraded that style with more powerful flat ground strokes. His pupils in the 80s included Carling Bassett, who was like an early Mary Pierce. His 90s pupils included Jennifer Capriati, Mary Pierce, Andre Agassi and Jim Courier (all with similar games). Seles was also a Bolletieri, protege, her two handed forehand didn't take off but her game plan was overall the same. She and Agassi were the most successful Bolletieri pupils ever.
Yes, all those double-handed forehands today….
@@kofipokuantwi-boateng5446 today’s game is literally based on the games of Venus and Serena. They’ve been the blueprint since the late 90s.
My queen, you’ll always be my no1
I have great admiration for Monica Seles.She is still in 2023 I am sure a liked personality on the tennis tour .She will be remembered for endurance and fame.
And for her mental fragility.
I am a huge Federer fan - been so since 2006 Australian Open - and also an extremely avid tennis player because of him - and I am hugely impressed with Monica Seles. I never watched a whole lot of her tennis before, until this week - when I watched this little video titled "the quick hands of Monica Seles" - you could really see just how special a talent she was. And on top of that, just like Federer she is a super genuinely nice and good person. Very very easy to root for.
@@carrerau7138hating at his finest.. you are responding to every single comment that appreaciates seles..🤣
@@adithyar5129 No, I am responding to every single comment that denigrates Steffi.
It says a lot about Selestial nutters that they can only celebrate their fave by denigrating Steffi.
Whining about a minor stabbing when her main opponent was hampered by multiple nasty family scandals AND a virtually career-ending injury at the tender age of 27 is truly rich.
@@carrerau7138я тоже обожаю Штеффи❤. Но нужно быть честным--- сумашедший украл у нас великую дуэль лучших теннисисток того времени. Конечно, Моника добилась бы большего наверняка. Но ведь и Штеффи не стояла на месте, а прогрессировала и улучшалась с каждым годом. После возвращения Моника была другой, а Штеффи еще лучше, Гюндхард очень улучшил ее теннис.
That was an incredible comeback. 11 straight wins and came within 1 point of winning the US open vs Graf who had completely dominated 1995.
Steffi had to play this final injured, full of pain killers.
And her dad had been jailed just a few weeks earlier.
But yes, Seles was better than ever in the first 14 months of her comeback.
Sadly then injuries took over.
Sadly her food disorder took over afterwards.
And she couldn't fight against them while being on the Pro-tennis tour simultaneously.
It took her years after her professionell career to loss wait.
She required a lot of patiences and assistance due to her trauma & her gained weight to "love" herself again. Furthermore she spend two of her best years away from the sport.
Suddenly she wasn't a teenager anymore & every Newcomer was taller/or more muscular than her (before the '00s).
She couldn't keep up with the rising Sexappeal on court & probably didn't wanna wear a revealing mini skirt, too.
I think the Outfits from the 80s & early 90s looked far better. Seles and Graf always looked stunning without showing almost the entire leg & wearing tanktops.
These days (2024) at the right climate conditions it is possible that a sudden wind blow show us a female tennis players underwear.
Why?
So not necessary - I watch sport & not *it.
It let's them come across less professional wearing those hideous dresses at times.
Nowadays those Outfits get shorter and shorter.
Well, sadly times have evolved backwards.
Such a superficial & shallow socitey at times (2024).
I guess without the attack, her father's early death, her mental & physical "injuries" and the different type of upcoming female players - ended her career sooner than expected in 2003/04 (last match on the WTA tour).
Officially it took five more years before her Manager made it Public that she isn't going to return (2008) again.
@@999999SkyGuy жаль, что в момент появления Селеш ВТА не запретили эти сумашедшие крики на корте. Именно Селеш стала первой орущей теннисисткой, а сейчас орет каждая вторая((((
@@999999SkyGuy another problem she had was all the trainers wanted her to go to the gym to lose weight. She later learnt, after retiring, that she could lose weight by walking and activities she enjoyed more. Which is a good lesson to others, not everyone is cut out for the gym, and you if you truly can't stand the gym you won't be able to keep up a gym routine to lose weight, there are alternatives.
@@carrerau7138 oh look, here’s the triggered little Graf fanboy again
Monica Forever....
So glad she came back after the stabbing. Professional tennis for me was not the same in her absence. And the stat in the video is wrong, before the stabbing she had won eight grand slams not seven.
I agree was counting the minutes lol
Seles to me is the greatest female tennis player of all time.
Just 9 slams, no Wimbledon title, low match winning percentage (83 %), mentally weak, ugly grunter game.
What was great there?
@@carrerau7138 Morons galore on YT. No surprise!
@@carrerau7138because she doesn’t have such a fan like you, full of insulting words
@@changcasper3303 Insulting only liars.
Many Selestial nutters are exactly that, low-down Yankee liars.
@@carrerau7138the fact that you call Seles mentally weak proves you know nothing
She won 8 gs till 1993, not 7.
I prefered Steffi like style of game, but in 1995 I was too much happy for the return of Monica. She played an excellent tournament and with her beautiful smile she demonstrated her joy to come in field. The final against Graf was one of better of all the times.
Sadly at the end of 1996 - about 15 months after her return - post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) hit Monica. And she was never the same again.
@@carrerau7138 oh do you feel better about yourself now? Trust me everybody knows you’re just nothing more than a Steffi fan boy.
WTA players demanded she be dropped from no. 1 while she was nursing her stabbing incident.
She came back strong and reminded them who she was!
Demanded isn't exactly right. The tour asked them if they wanted to freeze her ranking at 1. All the top players said no. Except Jennifer Capriati. Years later Capriati asked Monica to deliver her induction speech into the International Tennis Hall of Fame. It came full circle.
@@ferdyspears Fake news.
All the top players present at the vote the WTA held in Rome (week after the stabbing) - including Capriati - voted against Seles keeping her #1 ranking except Sabatini who abstained.
Steffi was not in Rome, though.
@@carrerau7138 yes, you're correct, it was Sabatini who was the only player to support Seles on this ranking issue
@@petroszakhariadis8623 No, Sabatini didn't vote for Seles.
And Steffi never voted against Seles.
That are the facts.
Selestial nutters love to lie about this.
However, she was co-ranked with Graf at #1 after her return for 64 weeks. It would have been awkward to have someone ranked at #1 in 1993, 1994 and most of 1995 who didn't compete in the sport.
Before the horrific stabbing, Mónica was the most fearless and powerful ball striker. I haven't seen any other female or male do the same
Keep watching only Seles' matches then. You are funny.
It was a normal stabbing. Happens each day a hundred times.
Nothing “horrific“ about it.
@@carrerau7138 Maybe you haven't been cut before. What a ridiculously comment.
@@carrerau7138once again showing just how psycho you truly are.
@@carrerau7138troll alert
8 slams, not 7. shocks me that people who are in charge of these videos don't do accurate research. i could dot it free of charge, USTA!
Monica seles the greatest tennis player
You sad clown.
Monica Seles has been my hero for so long. What a woman
Monika Seles and Novak Djokovic have two things in common.
1. Unbelievable concentration in every point, mentally the two strongest players in tennis ever in my humble opinion.
2. Both were born in Serbia, she in Novi Sad and he in Belgrade.👍
Seles mentally strong?
Who didn't play for TWO YEARS after suffering a minor stab wound????
You clown.
Monica Seles, restera pour moi comme la plus grande joueuse de tennis de l'histoire!
Irreplaceable, one and only Monica❤. Btw, I prefer the old green courts of the US Open to the current blue ones.
Monica, simply the best ever
..at losing Wimbledon
Lastima Que le Jodieron La Vida,Sino Por Muchos Años ,Seria N°1.!!
I honestly think Seles would have won 1993 FO and 1994 FO had she not been stabbed. She could never beat Graf on grass or on faster hard courts.
2:52 she is so similar to Federer, the way they both hit balls to the crowd at the US Open :)
It wasn't a horrific injury. She was actually stabbed during a televised match in Germany by a monster who basically got away with it. It was an atrocity. Unspeakably evil.
The injury was anything except horrific. It was more like a big scratch.
@@carrerau7138you need to get a life and stop trolling. She was a 19 year old girl, attacked in a way that hasn’t happened before or since. The combined physical and mental injury was significant - kept her out of the game for a significant period and continued to impede her on her return. She should be applauded for coming back.
Agree, I don’t understand why people refer to what happened as an injury. She was the victim of an horrific attack/assault.
@@benwyld9149 Thousands of 19-year-old girls have suffered minor stab wounds.
I don‘t think many of them skipped office for more than 2 years.
I don’t believe this “trauma“ narrative since Seles wasn’t willing to provide the court of the Parche trial with her medical records. If the judges had had credible evidence for a deep trauma Parche never would have got only a suspended prison sentence.
@@benwyld9149 What was so “horrific“ about that attack? It was just a boning knife, not exactly well-suited for stabbing. Consequently the wound was not very deep, it needed only one stitch to close. No evidence for trauma was presented at the Parche trial.
she's an absolutely Divine human being
You mean Steffi?
@@carrerau7138 oh are you triggered again, cupcake? So adorable.
I can tell you, Monica is one of those who started the grunting on court, hahaha along with Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario. I was so bothered by it back then and I still hate it now, HAHAHAH.
👍👍
en ese regreso parecia como si volviese una persona mucho mayor...pero en realidad solo tenia 21 años...y ya era una leyenda..increible
Graf probably thought “oh, I never thought you would come back so soon.”
Steffi thought Seles would be back at the USO 93.
@@carrerau7138 have you figured out by now that nobody cares what you think?
Best of the best off all time!
You mean Steffi, right?
@@carrerau7138 Monica Seles of course
@@ThePoui777 Better than Steffi??
@@carrerau7138 If that fanatic hadn't stabbed Monica.Then Stephie wouldn't have a chance at the next meetings.
@@ThePoui777 Even a slumping Steffi was 3-2 win/loss (8-5 in sets) against #1 Seles pre-stabbing.
A not-anymore-slumping Steffi against a Seles with a dying father and her binge eating disorder would have been a very one-sided affair.
The biggest What if in sports history
No, the biggest if is what Steffi could have achieved without the Graf Blackmail Scandal.
She had won 8 of the last 9 slams and suffered only 7 losses in the last 3.5 years before.
@@carrerau7138 oh the triggered cupcake strikes again
Before stabbing monica was the only player who defeated Graff several times
Before the stabbing in April 90 Seles had beaten Steffi a mere 4 times.
Sabatini had done it 11 times, Navratilova 9 times, Evert 6 times, Sanchez 5 times.
What are you trying to achieve with your dumb lie, pal?
@@carrerau7138I think Steff thanks Gunther every day for stabbing Seles, in her prayers before bed
@@curupirauirapuru3368but Graf H2h was 3-3 against Seles before stabbing.
@@carrerau7138 troll alert
I agree with samulic8000, Monica Seles is still the best of the Best up to date. My favorite players then were Monica Seles, Chris Evert, and Gabriela Sabatini; a trilogy of liberal tennis playing.
The great Steffi is 47-22 win/loss against your faves.
You must hate her! 🤣
@@carrerau7138 Yeah, right; that is why a crazed German fan stabbed Monica Seles in the shoulder when she was playing S. Graf.
Graf always had difficulty beating Seles.
@@carrerau7138going to start calling you Gunther Parche Jr.. you truly are obsessed with trying to diminish Seles' accomplishments just to lift up Graf. You truly are a sad individual.
@@jamesr2164 Haters gonna hate, but Monica's place in tennis history remains secure, fortunately. Everyone who follows the game knows what the score is regarding her career and what happened to her at her peak, which of course unjustly took her out of the game.
@@slc2466Seles‘s injury had healed within a few weeks.
It was her decision alone to skip the tour for more than 2 years. And conveniently return when Steffi was engulfed in yet another family scandal. But Seles had miscalculated - this time she wasn’t able to profit from Steffi’s woes (as she did in 1990-92).
A bad call in the first set helped Steffi win the first set if I remember correctly. Seles should have won this tournament.
The excuses never end…. 😂
Monica’s serve down the line was definitely in.
@@Ricky-mo6mv It was so far out that Steffi shook her head in disgust about the biased USO crowd.
Let me guess - you are American?
Thought so…
that's just an observation. It was controversial call@@carrerau7138
@@carrerau7138 Not anymore. The Biden Administration killed the United States. We are now a nameless country with no leader.
"horrific injury" how about "horrific stabbing" or "horrific assault"
What was so horrific about it?
Almost no blood, a very small wound.
@@carrerau7138And here you are again you are absolutely obsessed with trying to diminish Seles' accomplishments and those that feel otherwise. You truly are as sad individual.
@@carrerau7138troll
@@jamesr2164 You are a liar, I never try to diminish Seles's accomplishments.
It is YOU and your despicable comrades who CONSTANTLY try to diminish STEFFFI'S accomplishments.
Everybody knows that Seles only won so much in the early 90s because Steffi was in a bad slump (due to off-court problems).
Steffi had made 13 slam finals in a row - and suddenly missed 6 of the next 10 slam finals.
Steffi was 20-3 win/loss against Sabatini - and suddenly went 1-7 win/loss against the Argentinian.
If that is not a slump....
You are a fanatical hater,, obviously an American.
I am sometimes afraid for Steffi, living in a violent country with so many fanatical haters there....,
ya, less than 6/10 of an inch deep and didnt touch one artery..but you Seles fans dont even know that..real horrific stabbing 🙄
Can't believe this highlights reel consists more of errors than winners... In the Novotna match alone Seles saved 2 set points in the first set with 2 straight amazing winners . Never shown
Любимая теннисистка Штеффи Граф❤❤❤ Ее соперничество с Селеш было захватывающим и очень жалко, что так трагично прервалось на 2 года. Но это не умаляет ни в коей мере заслуг Штеффи на корте. Моника вернулась еще совсем молодой, но уже не смогла повторить успех 1990-92 годов, Граф в это время еще больше спрогрессировала и с Гюндхардом ее теннис стал практически непробиваемым.
"Вернулась совсем молодой и не смогла повторить" а ты бы смог после удара ножом в спину?
Let's be real if that Graf fanatic hadn't stabbed Monica. Steffi would have 8-10 less Grand Slams. As far as im concerned theres an asterisk next to Steffi's name
Graf wouldn't even be in any GOAT conversation if not for the stabbing. Even with the stabbing she still does not have the most slams or most tournaments. She's not the best at the AO, FO, WB, or USO. She's not the best on clay, grass, hardcourts, or carpet. Basically, she has most weeks at number one and the most German Open titles. That's not enough.
@@jm7804Without the Seles stabbing Steffi would have won Wimbledon 94 (because the draw would have been different).
And several slam wins against the Serbian Screamer would only have strengthened her legacy.
@@carrerau7138 you truly are a sad individual. Aka Gunther Parche Jr.
Absolutely a rubbish comment. Seles couldn't beat Graf in the two fast surfaces .
@@benchick3565 Exactly.
Steffi won only 6 slams during Seles‘s absence; the idea of Steffi winning 8-10 slams less is therefore preposterous. Maybe this Selestial nutter thinks Steffi would not have won FO 99 due to a minor stab wound Seles suffered 6 (!) years before….? 😂🤣
These 6 Steffi slams during Seles‘s absence were AO 94, FO 93 & 95, Wim 93 & 95, USO 93.
Discussions about Steffi’s two Wimbledon titles would be ridiculous, obviously.
Even Steffi‘s USO 93 win is a no-brainer, IMO, considering that Seles never beat Steffi on such a fast hard court surface.
AO 94? Steffi was so much better in winter 94 at the AO and in Tokyo than in 93; she was devastating in the AO final, one of her best matches ever. I don’t see how Seles would have beaten her there.
Leaves us with the FOs in 93 and 95.
However, Steffi was considerably stronger in those two years than in 90 and 92 when she narrowly lost two FO finals against Seles. But what the hell, let’s give Monica one of those two FOs.
But as I have said already - with Seles in the draw Steffi most certainly would not have drawn Lori McNeil in the first round of Wimbledon 94. And therefore won the championship like she also did in 91-93 and 95/96.
So 22 slams for Steffi anyway, stabbing or no stabbing!
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Error that needs to be corrected: from 1990 to 1993, Seles didn't win 7 but 8 Grand Slam titles.
“After a horrific injury” SHE WAS LITERALLY STABBED ON COURT
It was a minor stab wound suffered in public on a tennis court.
Thank God it was not a horrific injury - the wound could be closed by a doctor with one stitch.
@@carrerau7138 yes I understand that but even if she was stabbed with a pencil and the puncture wound was less than 1 inch she was still stabbed and not sure why they would just say she was “injured” on court
@@phantomtroupe8430 You don't think you have an injury after getting stabbed or what is your point?
@@carrerau7138 because a horrific injury could be me falling on my own. That’s totally different than someone wanting you dead at the place you work. And the fact that it was a super fan of her biggest rival. It was basically a hit on seles and 20 years later they water it down to “she had an injury on court”. What a slap in the face to seles who never recovered mentally from someone wanting her dead
@@phantomtroupe8430 No one wanted Seles dead!
And no one denies that her (not-horrific!!) injury was caused by an attack.
He was no "super fan", BTW. He wasn't even a tennis fan. He was in love with Steffi, his idol as a woman. She could have been an actress or a singer, didn't matter.
And he thought he could show his love to Steffi (!) by attacking her biggest opponent. That was his point and nothing else. Again, he was a psychiatric case and not a tennis fan.
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Steffi was simply AMAZING in the final. WOW.
So disrespectful from Graf to go hug and high five her family before shaking hands with Monica. As for the handshake between the two, notice how it was always real nice and friendly when Monica lost but real cold when Graf lost. Monica was graceful in defeat. Graf was a sore loser.
Do you even know what was going on in the Graf family in those weeks, you rabid hater?
People like you really piss me off - truly the pits.
Monica barely shook Steffi's hand after the 92 Wimbledon final. The two were never friends and genuinely disliked each other, even before the stabbing. Lets be clear on that.
Definitely Monica was the best during 90 - 95 wherein Steffi was little shorter than Monica but Steffi had luck which Monica lacked else one with 21 GS and another with 9 GS is something which one may think.
I love the journey of Monica Seles at the US Open 1995 but why are most of the points shown here crap and errors instead of good points?!
I was rooting badly for Monica in that final vs. Steffi, but title run?
Me Too 🥹
I swear you guys love to show the worst points. Monica remains one of my all time favourite players. There is still nobody who hits the ball like her.
I think Steffi thanks Gunther every day for stabbing Seles, in her prayers before bed
Yesssss
WTF!!!! HORRIFIC INJURY????? SHE WAS STABBED ON THE BACK BY A GRAF FAN (who by the way did not go to jail)!!!! THATS NOT AN INJURY, THATS ATTEMPTED MURDER ... Ok i was gonna watch this but now im not
It was a great comeback, but her form was nowhere near her 1993 AO form (especially her serve). Her 1993 AO form wins this USO pretty easily IMO.
Seles played her two best ever USO tournaments in 1995 and 1996. Clearly better than in 1991 and 1992 when she won the title.
But THIS time it was Steffi was waiting in the finals, not Sanchez, not old Navratilova.
And not a slumping Steffi.
And so Monica lost of course.
Нека лепша времена...
Seles career would have been better without the stabbing and the associated trauma
I am biggest fan but she is not the best ever …to me that is Serena Williams hands down …I will say that Monica when at her best was better than most of her competitors including Graf etc…only the Williams sisters and maybe Davenport weee better ..I know Davenport had a winning record but all those notches were not against the best version and not moving the best is a killer against Lindsay
Serena???
Who won only 30 % of the tournaments she played? Steffi won 50 % of hers and that against better competition!
Plus she won the Golden Slam whereas your Serena faltered even on the threshold of a normal Grand Slam.
So stop insulting the great Steffi, please. Nationalism in sports should go only so far....
@@carrerau7138 oh the triggered little cupcake strikes again
For me Steffi is the GOAT of of the WTA of all time.
I don't think this video was about steffi. Why are you claiming on a video about Seles that has nothing to do with Graf, that she is the goat?
With a huge asterisk….after that crazed fan took out her biggest threat. Monica doesn’t get stabbed in ‘93 and there’s no way SG has the Slam count she does.
@@jamesr2164 The 1995 USO has nothing to do with Steffi….?
😂😆🤣
@@carrerau7138 Gunther. I Don't think the video says "Steffi Graf's run at the US Open" now does it?
@@jamesr2164 “Günter“, please. Don‘t butcher the name of your church‘s founding father.
The 1995 USO “has nothing to do with“ Steffi?
Did you somehow forget the final…? 😂😂😂
I've never seen such a sloppy video in my life. Factual errors abound and instead of the fantastic rallies Monica produced there we can see unforced errors.
Steffi Graf is so boring with her Chicken-Slice.
Graf is the GOAT, if we are ever graced to see somebody like her again it will be a blessing
Wasn’t she the player that started this grunting thing...now most players do it which can be very annoying....she was a good player though.
No, there had been many players in the past on the men's and women's tour that emoted sound when striking the ball way before Seles arrived. I on the other hand have no problem with grunting. Yes some players can be quiet as a mouse, but in all reality it is a very physically grueling sport so it's not surprising that most players emote some kind of sound when playing a match.
jimmy connors started it.
too bad there was no hawkeye back then..monica's serve on set point was an ace but overruled, causing her the first set.
Jes, jes, jes...😢
Get your eyes examined.
Steffi was actually really annoyed that Seles tried to rile up the partisan crowd even more by claiming it was an ace.
It was not even close, you clown!