Series - Using Outboard Hardware - What Brands To Consider - Part II

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  • @davidmiller6725
    @davidmiller6725 Місяць тому +1

    Drawmer makes some fantastic gear for the price as well. I would like to see you review some of their preamps and compressors as well.

  • @MrGus937
    @MrGus937 Рік тому +1

    This is great! I worked in the audio world a bit over 7 years ago and then never wanted to deal w it again. Im now starting to go back again but as a hobby. And let me tell you guys, technology moves FAST. Its nice to know about ‘old’ gear that is affordable. Great video. Thanks for all that info

  • @greenloungerecording9362
    @greenloungerecording9362 Рік тому +4

    For mic pres, I am using AML ez1073 pres in 500 series and can highly recommend them. Can be purchased in kit form or assembled by AML.

  • @Monroemat1cGaiming
    @Monroemat1cGaiming 9 місяців тому

    Klark Teknik was acquired by Music Tribe/ Uli Berhinger in 2009 and the main asset that Music Tribe reportedly desired was it's pro audio brand recognition. New products are developed and built the Behringer way. Some customers like their business practices and some dislike them.

  • @chantduplantier9871
    @chantduplantier9871 Рік тому +1

    Great analysis! Thanks for taking the time to help!

  • @jon4739
    @jon4739 Рік тому +1

    22:43 truth!!!! We build all tube EQ1a clones with hand wired and soldiered bread board electronics with solid state power supply or the original tube power supply , and with that being said I have bought their SSL bus compressor clone and their CV comp compressor. I LOVE Them. Also huge CAPI fan. Have A tone of CAPI pre's in my lunch boxes and and CAPI compressors along side my API compressors.

  • @iramatx
    @iramatx Рік тому +1

    Yes! Distressor is a beast. Also love the Retro 176. Not entry but so worth it

  • @darrenflynn9840
    @darrenflynn9840 Рік тому +1

    This was just what I was looking for, great info and unbiased. Thank you so much for this episode!

  • @toddchmielewski9431
    @toddchmielewski9431 Рік тому

    Barry thanks again for all the help and knowledge!

  • @jonkthompson
    @jonkthompson Рік тому +5

    I am a bedroom producer and just bought an ART Voice Channel used (mint) on Reverb. For what it does, I love the unit. Used, it was a great price and also sounds great on guitar.
    Love your channel and your experience you share. Thank you sir.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +2

      A LOT of people really like that unit, it’s only snobbery that clouds the discussion as it has always competed above its
      Price-point. Is tier better yes, so is life, can it sound great, hell yes. Search the web there are modding threads out there!

    • @jonkthompson
      @jonkthompson Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns I agree 100%! Once I get more acclimated with the unit, I definitely plan on doing some mod's!

  • @JTAITSINGER
    @JTAITSINGER Рік тому

    Barry’s Back!! Yaaaay!
    Tell us about “Pro Tools Intro” when you get a chance if you don’t mind.

  • @simonsays9368
    @simonsays9368 Рік тому

    Thank You

  • @payso1382
    @payso1382 Рік тому

    Thank you for this incredible, and informative video 👏🏼👏🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼.

  • @russtheguitarist
    @russtheguitarist Рік тому +1

    FYI Barry, Sweetwater’s used exchange has a Purple MC77 for a great price from a seller in Florida if you are in a position to rectify the mistake of selling yours.

  • @subtonic24
    @subtonic24 Рік тому +2

    I just recently got into Stam Audio with their brand new 500 series 1176 Blue Stripe (I received it in 4 days after making my final payment!) I put a preview video on my channel about it but so far from my testing, I think it sounds amazing! Really wanna try more of their gear now! Bae is another good company from my experience.
    Hope you are doing well man!

    • @musiccreation1198
      @musiccreation1198 Рік тому +2

      Same here regarding BAE and Stam 500 series. I bought a WesAudio Mimas (1176) and Retro Doublewide II compressor, both of which I LOVE.

  • @jesserios7333
    @jesserios7333 Рік тому +3

    The GAP Comp2A is great, I own 2 I own 2 of the following WA gear: WA76, EQP-WA, WA412. (3) WA73-EQ, WA BUS COMP and WA87. Used DBX160X's are good as well. One brand that would fit in the range is Heritage Audio.

    • @msb1704
      @msb1704 Рік тому

      tap into other brands other than warm audio for a change ... stam audio is around the same price & (in my opinion) sounds better

    • @jesserios7333
      @jesserios7333 Рік тому

      @@msb1704 why? No need, the Warm Audio gear sounds great and is great quality.

  • @DanielBaeder
    @DanielBaeder Рік тому +1

    Hello Barry, nice advices.
    I really encourage you to get into GA a little more, I consider GA way better than warm audio. Their La2a is incredible. Also their clones of the 1073 mic pres are great.
    I have APIs, Warms, GAPs, Wes, I’m happy with the sound of all, in their price range.
    GAP is not in the same category of KT.
    Thank you for your video, I’m following you!
    Cheers

  • @thefunkfactory
    @thefunkfactory Рік тому

    Hi Barry, love all your content thanks. This series has come at a great time for me as did your previous series of videos on hosted plugin hardware systems (UA, antelope etc) vs the new more powerful computers like Apple silicon. Just been going through a home studio upgrade over the last 2 years, as-and-when I have been able to afford it and this kind of input is invaluable as it helps frame some of the key questions I need to be asking and it can save me making costly mistakes.
    I am a life-long guitarist, singer and songwriter and arranger and I have dabbled for my whole life in music production. So, I had good sound sources but the recording gear was getting pretty dated. This has meant for me upgrading (in no particular order): interface, monitors,mic, computer, acoustic treatment and physical desk.
    I have got pretty serious and produced a lot of music since the pandemic hit and have gone deep down the mixing and mastering rabbit hole and tried many different techniques and some different software plugins but now I am starting to look ways at bringing new character and life to my recordings using analogue outboard gear, so again this series from you couldn’t have come at a better time.
    I thought of starting with a budget analogue bus compressor and have been looking at the Warm Audio SSL clone. I noticed that whilst you mentioned Warm Audio’s 1176 and Opto compressors you didn’t mention this one in your rundown. It maybe cos you have leapfrogged this budget option in favour of higher quality alternatives but if you have any insight into this one then it would be good to hear it ( no worries if not, you did clearly say that you haven’t tried everything!) anyway I appreciate what you do on your channel. Keep up the great work!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      Thanks a lot, it is much appreciated!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      Thanks a lot, it is much appreciated!

  • @stevenneufeld3791
    @stevenneufeld3791 Рік тому +1

    Hi Barry! I own a BLA/Black Lion Audio B12A right now.. i haven't had a chance to use it yet, but I bought it because I can't afford the 'real deal' (in my opinion).. the API 3124v.. BLA was a grand, API is like $3500 these days.. geez! ouch! but yea.. i was sort of surprised to not see any mentions of the BLA brand on this video. I love all your videos/talks.. nothing but love for all you do, as you provide so much good/pro discussion.. the videos have become like a comfort thing for me, just to hear someone talking about the things i'm interested in for my budding home studio setup. I think the part that made me surprised was that the BLA logo was in the video still / photo right behind your head!.. haha. i thought 'oh, surely he will give his two cents on the BLA brand then..!' and i was genuinely curious to hear if you think BLA is good or bad, or mid-way/bleh.. lol.. totally not complaining, just more-so curious of your thoughts on the brand or wondering if you've dabbled or own any of their pieces. I have never owned a real API unit to compare the BLA one too, but they seem to have decent ratings and such. i have heard good and bad things, mostly good. i like that most of their stuff is made in Chicago, and also seems pretty solidly build, with metal knobs/panels, etc. I want to like Warm Audio so badly but i bought 2 units from them for a friend's studio, and BOTH had issues.. major ones where we had to send them back for repair/replacement. i must have gotten really unlucky with Warm, and i want to give them another chance. but anyways, thanks for all the cool content, man.. and i hope you survived Hurricane Ian with little to no damages to your livelihood and/or property! cheers, be safe and keep on streaming the goodness! :)

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the support, yes, I agree BLA is certainly a very very good company that makes very good gear. I should have mentioned them too.

    • @stevenneufeld3791
      @stevenneufeld3791 Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns no worries! thanks for the reply. BLA are very apparent in all the main shopping sites (sweetwater and thomann) so i just figured most users were digging what they do. i have yet to put my unit into good use, but plan to soon. good to know your opinion on the brand, and that you're into what they do! keep on keeping on, man.. thanks for everything!

  • @TylerRifleyOfficial
    @TylerRifleyOfficial Рік тому +1

    Love the WA73! Recently switched to the AMS Neve 1073 and it certainly had an edge. But i will still always recommend warm audio to people! Had I not had experience with the warm audio stuff.. I wouldn’t appreciate the real deal as much

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      And that’s the way this stuff works, once you get a chance to appreciate the compared to in the box, then it only distinguishes itself more when you get into higher quality gear. That said, there is a line that I do believe where we need to balance things. I also have the WA73, as well as the heritage audio 73. I love both of those units.

    • @TylerRifleyOfficial
      @TylerRifleyOfficial Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns What’s your favorite 1176 clone? I’m debating on a clone vs the UA. I’ve only had experience with the WA 1176 clone.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      @@TylerRifleyOfficial I mentioned it in the video, Purple Audio MC77. I have not tried the Black Lion Audio one though and have heard great things about it.

  • @Polentaccio
    @Polentaccio Рік тому

    And as you save....access analog hardware in the cloud! No different than running out/in your outboard gear.

  • @gonzalozech
    @gonzalozech Рік тому

    I've been purchasing many Stam Audio units lately, there is something not that common about them which is that they actually mention the brands and origin of the main components they are using (transformers, capacitors, capsules, op amps, carbon resistors, nos tubes, etc.) which tells you they have nothing to hide in terms of quality. I would myself place them head by head with audioscape, or even at a higher rank with some units.

  • @mccrayvideo2
    @mccrayvideo2 Рік тому

    Thanks alot Barry

  • @SinkaneTV
    @SinkaneTV Рік тому

    Hope you and your family are safe, Barry!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      All good, still no pewter, but good!

  • @e.apollis2877
    @e.apollis2877 Рік тому +1

    Look into JLM audio as well.

  • @redmase1
    @redmase1 Рік тому

    The golden age new 2a and 3a is good. Sometimes I use it over my audioscape 2a

  • @Nathankaye
    @Nathankaye Рік тому

    I love my Drawmer 1978 stereo tone shaping FET compressor.
    I bought a Warm Audio Bus-comp2 (SSL g bus clone) and found that it had a terrible tilt boost from the mids up to the high frequencies. Completely unusable.
    I have had such a rigmarole with sending it back for warranty, which is perhaps more of a problem in Australia.
    I Haven’t even heard back from the distributor since it was sent there ages ago.
    Whilst this is probably just an anomaly and bad luck with this particular unit, still worth noting that if you aren’t in the USA, Warm audio might not actually be the safest bet.
    Thanks for your videos.

  • @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing
    @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing Рік тому

    I have the audio scape LA2A it's great. Another great clone is chameleon labs 7603 great 1073 clone I be have the carnhill transformers in mine.

  • @AlavonMajor
    @AlavonMajor Рік тому

    Could you do a Neve 1073 Battle series..”Legacy vs. Clones” (Rupert Neve Designs and AMS Neve vs. Warm, Heritage etc.)..I know there’s hundreds of videos here and there but a really detailed historical take with the preamp shootouts and maybe even interviews and commentary from RND personnel would be awesome..if at all possible🤓

  • @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing
    @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing Рік тому

    Alctron 54 is a great neve 2254 clone. Can be had for $250-300

  • @Em1lyB
    @Em1lyB Рік тому

    Lindell audio lin2a is supposed to be a better clone than warms what’s ur take cost wise they are the same or cheaper depending on region

  • @Duskybuka
    @Duskybuka Рік тому

    Another great Article with lots of wisdom!!
    Based in the UK, I have some Wesaudio and Tegeler hardware. Are you familiar with those brands?

  • @christopherJSmokeandMirrors

    Congrats Barry, you got popular fast!

  • @iRevolVeR21
    @iRevolVeR21 Рік тому +1

    BAE... not mentioned but they make great Neve gear

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      They make the very best Neve style gear, that said, this a for folks just starting to take the plunge.

  • @-P.V
    @-P.V Рік тому

    EL8X is a gem. MIKE-E (fullmod) is a sleeper especially w/ LIL-FREQ (fullmod).

    • @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing
      @EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing Рік тому

      How do you get the mod for the Mike e?

    • @-P.V
      @-P.V Рік тому

      @@EvilPimpTheUndergroundKing hit up empirical labs support. Mod is done by them.

  • @roandenn933
    @roandenn933 Рік тому

    Barry, would you mind giving your honest opinion on coming OTB and potentially staying OTB all the way to mastering? Basically by tracking as you normally would, then running your signal into an analog summing mixer(neve or Dangerous), then into your bus comp (Warm Audio or Dangerous or whatever), but instead of returning back ITB, you send that ( with all of its glorious analog processing) to a hi def recorder such as the Tascam DA 3000, or the Tascam DR- 40X 4 channel, and then send that to mastering. I believe that it would really help new people (me 😊) to see a video of the “actual” steps in layman’s terms on how to go from tracking, to mixing, and ultimately into your bus processor( warm audio eq and bus comp for example) and then how to preserve the mix further by not returning to the box until after mastering. Your thoughts on this? And thank you so much for the videos. Very very informative. The Dangerous 2bus+ is on its way. And your thoughts on not returning ITB right away? Thanks, man

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      You can definitely do that, that said, whether it’s practical these days or not would be the question.
      When you consider the challenges of recall, that puts a big burden on the process, if you have to go back and make a change to a mix down the road, when you’re totally mixing in the box.
      It would be very difficult for me to dive into this in this situation, as there so many complexities to it. Feel free to email me, which could be easier.

    • @roandenn933
      @roandenn933 Рік тому +1

      Thanks, B Dog 🔥

    • @Polentaccio
      @Polentaccio Рік тому

      The real question is...do you have the cohonas to commit to a sound with no or very limited recall? Some say that's the most creative way to go. Stuff sounds the same these days because recall is so easy.

  • @adambell4513
    @adambell4513 Рік тому

    Greetings Barry, would love to see you do a review on the Lin76 by Lindell Audio. I saw one impressive UA-cam review but would love your trusted opinion. Perhaps you could get Lindell to send you one at your audience request?? Thanks

  • @Diogrus
    @Diogrus Рік тому

    Hi Barry, thanks for your advice! As I live in Brazil and I'm setting up my home studio from scratch, I can't afford high-quality equipment right now, so I need to stick with mid-level stuff. My idea is to set up a two channel rack for tracking, and keep the mixes ITB, and maybe getting something for the mixbus in the future. I'm mainly starting with Warm Audio, but I can also find some similarly priced Golden Age and Fredenstein gear here. By the way, do you have any thoughts on the last one (Fredenstein)? Thanks in advance!

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      I don’t have any experience with Fredenstein, but will look into it. Warm Audio will do you well.

  • @lynnwalker9650
    @lynnwalker9650 Рік тому +1

    The main two are Neve, API and Universal Audio. Wait, the top three are Neve, API, Universal Audio and SSL.

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +1

      SSL certainly has it’s prominence, that said, it’s mostly known as a mixing desk where their choice of EQ bands, compression/Gate and the Master Buss processor, that’s where lineage is, not so much the tracking.

  • @CarcPazu
    @CarcPazu Рік тому

    Are you going to address the new free Pro Tools Intro?

  • @edmc2
    @edmc2 Рік тому

    How are you with the wesaudio clones?

  • @hjortur
    @hjortur Рік тому +1

    Do we really need this hardware processing madness? Anything you can do using hardware, can be achieved by using software - more or less. And the software can do much more than emulating hardware… Said with love for the music. 🙂

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +2

      The answer is not only yes, but absolutely freaking yes. And I’m sorry brother I don’t mean to disagree with you, but I’m going to. Plug-ins can be great, they can do a good job, and for most people at home that’s really all most at home people need. But hardware sounds so, so, so, much better.

    • @hjortur
      @hjortur Рік тому +1

      @@BarryJohns Magnificent Barry! I don't mind if we disagree. I have been in the studio business since 1974 and worked as a professional studio owner and studio technician through the 80s and am still active. Studio equipment is a tool for producing the sound you want. Your ears are your passport to success. How you get to the result is less important than the result itself. Thanks for good channel!

  • @pat-enz
    @pat-enz Рік тому

    Thank you for your video Barry. Would a regular guy be able to upgrade the cheaper hardware, like.resoldering or changing potentiometers ?

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      I believe anyone can learn just about anything, that said, you’d want to get some soldering practice, but short answer would be yes. I’ve been doing it for years.

    • @NewHopeAudio
      @NewHopeAudio Рік тому

      I believe it could be diminishing returns. Cost of parts and your labor might be better spent on something used that’s better quality.

    • @pat-enz
      @pat-enz Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns How long to get into soldering? I got an iron, but the 1st tries didn't hold very well😞

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому

      @@pat-enz it’s like anything else it takes practice. The two fundamental things that are the most important, are making sure you’re tinning your wires or whatever you’re connecting as well as your soldering tip. I suggest buying a cheap circuitry board, with some various capacitors, in transistors, and just practice. You can pick one up for less than 10 bucks.

    • @pat-enz
      @pat-enz Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns Umm I might do that! I have an Iron. Is there a specific kind of solder I should use?

  • @ADGreen-es6hm
    @ADGreen-es6hm Рік тому +1

    How
    Barry how are you doing

    • @BarryJohns
      @BarryJohns  Рік тому +6

      All good, not much sleep last night, but no damage, just a lot of vegetation to clear out.

    • @garyroberts1843
      @garyroberts1843 Рік тому

      @@BarryJohns Take care man