but it was though a test can be impressive, but in the end it’s one freakin level that took ages to develop and took advantage of other people’s work for free, like the unity engine.
CastedDreams It’s like in my upcoming fangame on ROBLOX, Labyrinth Zone has more springs and levels and fun short cuts. Also, no drowning either, it’s what Sonic actually needs to do
Oh trust me as I say this, it's a really Steep learning curve, the physics while strong, feel like you learn so much about how the hill jumps work before you try this. After you get a feeling for it though... Quite literally the sky is the limit!
Heads up to anyone seeing this video: This demo is VERY old, and since then everything has been completely redone. The gameplay, controls, art, physics, performance, and camera system have all been improved, along with a focus on more linear levels as well. Lange and his team are taking their time on the Sonic Utopia update, and that's a good thing!
Misha think they're releasing a new, original level at this year's Sonic Amateur Games Expo, so should be a new playable demo between July 28th - Aug 4th
Start the game up, do a peel out immediately, triple jump onto a spring, roll down a hill, you’re going sonic fast and then the beat drops. *THATS HOW GREAT THIS GAME IS*
Even with a more linearl level design and objective and lowered jump height I think this what we always wanted in a 3D sonic, more speed and skill based timing but with the ability to actually see where your going, appreciate the speed, and take in the world you are transverse while trying to maintain a good "combo" for maximum speed.
@@robbiewalker2831 hey at least Unleashed and Rush were good. Unleashed was honestly the last good original 3d sonic game. Notice I said original, Generations focused on remaking old levels and wasn't truly unique like Unleashed
@@blackpants7385 yeah generations is a fantastic game but I'm just disappointed that they suddenly ditched the good thing they had going for whatever Sonic Lost World was, decided to reinvent sonic for some reason with Sonic Boom, then forgot what made Unleashed and Generations great, thus spawning the underwhelming Sonic Forces
Ya never know, maybe we could talk Christopher Whitehead into convincing SEGA to let him mess around with the idea! It seemed to work just fine with Mania! ^_^
The soundtrack just screams "freedom". The amount of euphoria in the OST is just unfathomable. It makes me so happy that I can just run everywhere without a damn care in the world, nothing in the way, no stress whatsoever. My all time favorite re-imagining of green hill zone theme.
Euphoria is intensely good to describe this tune. It also manages to be calming at the same time, maybe that's where freedom comes in. Absolute masterpiece.
@@coldzero8584 Yeah but it's not like he was attacking YOU personally, he just stated his opinion. No need to make any angry ad hominem statements just because you don't like the way he worded his statement.
This looks skill-based, tightly controlled and well designed to maximize powerplay... it’s like Sonic Odyssey. Sega should just hire these guys for the next 3D game.
I keep on getting anxiety every time he looks like he’s gonna run into a wall and stop or slow down while airborne, because that’s what I see in 3D sonic games nowadays
Man, I keep imagining Sonic's face during this. The dude likes to go fast and Enjoys doing it, I bet the look on his face is just complete happiness. Now hows about we make this the next main 3D Sonic game Sega? It would be great, its linear and somewhat open world design is what I feel is great for newcomers and veterans
Okay, what Poplarz meant from this (at least in my interpretation) is it’s open world in the sense that it’s open and free to explore. But linear in the sense that it is (presumably) level based with a beginning and end.
@@markbalan8274 I really think you and him really meant "The company would still be creating consoles and would be highly respected among great technological companies"
@@lonradb SA1 Test levels and scrapped windy hill disagree. There's clear signs they wanted to make the game momentum based but couldn't make it work, I would bet because of how new 3D game development was at the time.
They only refuse to do it because their current staff members are so inexperienced and incompetent that they genuinely don't KNOW how to program stuff this complex.
@@theholygamer969 That’s why I was very skeptical about Sonic Frontiers because that team couldn’t get Sonic to run down a hallway without dash pads or automating the whole hallway, how can they make him run around in an “open world”.
It's empty, just like Sonic Frontiers. The problem with this series right now is the devs listen to the fandumb, who don't know what they're talking about.
@@21kHzBANK21kHZ it’s a demo of a fan game and it’s already far more interesting looking than sonic frontiers, maybe think about what you’re going to say before opening your mouth
@@21kHzBANK21kHZ sure it's empty. But look at the movement? You can't look at that and think that doesn't look fun to screw around with for a couple of hours!? The whole point of sonic is momentum, the better you learn a level the faster you go. Speed is the reward for being competent with the game. As you can see in this tech demo. Frontiers looks painfully slow and there are no momentum mechanics at all. However I agree that the movement is only part of the whole that makes a good game. Frontiers definitely needs more to do and to make moving as Sonic fun
Peter Scordamaglia II I just realized he did that likely because Sonic does it in the opening animation to Sonic CD. Holy crap. This game is BEAUTIFUL.
This game kind of does that. I think the only issue with this demo is that the various obstacles are placed haphazardly. As I played, I could make a mistake, fall, and think, "Ha ha! My mistake. Wow, this is fun!" But after a while I started looking around, wondering how the heck to get anywhere. I saw this one spiraling strip of land that I never could manage to get to. It's not just that it's fairly large, but that there is _no_ sense of a path at all. If this were made into a proper game, I think that this needs to be addressed. It doesn't need to be an obvious race course, but some level of direction would be better. You shouldn't need to replay a level 10 times before you have any sense of direction in it.
I can't shake the feeling that this is Sonic done perfectly. It's pretty much everything I've wanted since I first saw the intro to CD when I was like 7.
The visuals are just so pleasing somehow. I dont care about 8k, a billion triangles and all that fancy stuff on unreal engine 5. This pretty much looks just as good while needing much less graphical power.
This got me all in my feelings I swear because I KNOW Sega literally could care less that this is what we want. Every single bit of code that went into making this is sacred text. Bless you, developers.
Yeah I hate comments like this, it’s comments like this that made sonic games the way they are now, because comments like this pressure sega to never change, never innovate, never do anything creative, that’s why there’s more classic sonic pandering than ever, cos they “don’t give a shit about the fans” lol sure
When a group of fans with little to no funding are better at making a game than a company with access to some of the most highly expensive equipment. Then we got a problem. Awesome Job BTW!
Decided to come back after watching the sonic frontiers gameplay reveal. Utopia is able to capture going fast in an open world so well. Not to mention how well designed the open world is here.
Yea and even if frontiers had momentum it wont really change anything frontiers isnt even built like a sonic game its more "realistic" it lacks loops and deep drops or ditches
I like the way the world looks in frontiers but i wish they couldv made it look more natural like added giant rock loops and natural looking grind rails and stuff everything in the world looks strange just floating everwhere
@@elijahtoombs3524 In concept yes 3d can be fun.... but with sonic teams execution on past games I think not. Sonic team doesn't understand how to make sonic fun or expressive like how utopia showcased.
Everyone who says momentum has no idea what it means, it’s the product of mass and velocity so when you say that Sonic team probably thinks you want Sonic to be faster or fatter. What you actually mean to say is actual physics, like the acceleration due to gravity. We’re never going to get what we want unless we learn how to say what we want properly.
what if people could stole the code from the game and make stages with it with that sonic design and playability? i think that's like, literally impossible there's no way people can do that.
This is what the Sonic Frontiers gameplay should've looked like *actual momentum based gameplay and physics!* It's really embarrassing that 2 people with no budget hit the bullseye on this, and yet a AAA game studio couldn't even get close.
Honestly! Sonic Utopia as a fully fledged game could be absolutely AMAZING. It has so much potential for more zones, each with their own unique open world gimmicks.
I love the level design here so much. It perfectly captures the branching paths from the 2D games where no matter what you’re doing or where you are in the level you’re constantly moving towards the end of it. If you know the layout you can head straight for the end or just explore and have fun.
I really hope that this comment ages like milk and Sonic Team finds a way to turn it around. If not then yeah Sonic Team clearly have no clue on what they are doing! 😞
@@Razorstolemycar From the current gameplay, Sonic Frontiers looks stiff just like Forces and a lot of other 3D Sonic games. I’m not sure why Sonic Team refuses to do momentum-based physics and more free-flowing movement like Sonic Utopia does. Sonic Utopia has no budget and they’ve got it right. It made sense in the late 90s and 2000s, making stages super linear due to hardware limitations, but they have such a big opportunity here now. IMO, I get this unshakable feeling that Sonic Frontiers is looking to fall short when watching Sonic Utopia vids. Utopia art style and at least *some* of its momentum-based physics + control would have been better.
Example: Sonic looks like a teardrop. The professor who gave him his speed (eggman, its a long story) is always having his plans thwarted by... That's right, Sonic.
protizemo s What does that have to do with anything? And that thing you're talking about was never canon to the games, it was something that one of many Western adaptations made up.
No joke, the first 10 seconds I said "now THIS is a 3D sonic game. It actually looks like it feels so good to play. This a sonic game that I would pay for if released.
Man seeing this again and just how fluid you play, is amazing compared to what was shown recently for the open world sonic game. This feels right, classic but upgraded just enough to still feel like the original. Great concept.
@@lordraiden7397 depends on whether or not you were in the dbz or dokkan battle communities. i think i remember seeing you a few times as well, or at least someone with a similar name
@@N00N-0_00 sonic fanbase asks for a different thing every time, just NOW they want momentum when nobody said that this was a problem. the fans just don't know what they want. but seriously, if this is sold on steam it would receive terrible criticism for how boring the world and its design are. Also, even if he was a modern sonic fanboy, it's better than overvaluing a mediocre fangame
Unfortunately, I believe it's more profitable for them to make a lackluster Sonic game themselves than to allow someone else to make a great Sonic game for them and then have to pay those people their share. Sonic Mania doesn't happen everyday :(
@@Crit-Chance _"Unfortunately, I believe it's more profitable for them to make a lackluster Sonic game themselves than to allow someone else to make a great Sonic game for them and then have to pay those people their share. "_ Nonsense. The fans make games that would make more money, and the fans do it with less people: SEGA should have no trouble paying them.
You have to press jump again is a "double jump / homing attack combo" but without the annoying sound of the homing attack locking on and the momentum breaking after hitting anything. I never understood why Sonic Team homing attack was so unsatisfying until I played Utopia...
In actuality... (3 years ago...) SEGA: Hang on, I think this new modern Sonic game will stink. (sigh...) If only we could go back to the good old days with just 3 essentials. The classic gameplay, the limited moves, no voice actors, boosting, or even homing attacks. The fans: Isn’t there a big project your doing? SEGA: (gasp!) (Sonic Mania releases) SEGA: We really don’t do this often, don’t we?
This game looks genuinely great. I could *feel* the energy of blasting at high speeds around Green Hill, just like Sonic. The graphics are pleasing and the Green Hill remix is on pointe. This game just captures so well what Sonic's speed truly is. I love it
It's just a testbed for the physics. The final game's levels will have a more linear structure. Although I personally wouldn't mind levels like this that functioned as hub worlds, with collectibles n stuff.
I'm thinking breath of the wild scope here, imagine exploring a massive world to find thingies that make you go faster! For example, perhaps find an orb somewhere that'll let you drop dash or the such Or plant away an area in your mind that has a large vertical cliff, and come back when you have a consumable red spring, or suction shoes What if you see a massive loop in the distance, so you parkour your way there to find that it's too big for you to get on top of, so you plan a highly complex route in the surrounding hillsides to gain momentum to launch yourself up there. YOU planed that route, YOU executed it, and YOU got the awesome reward for getting on top of it with a well placed jump on just the right spot! Sega, get your shit together
Napkin Dictator Imagine... By far the most expansive game ever made. Nothing fancy, just some ramps to jump off, and some jungles whiz through in the blink of an eye. It hits 10/10's everywhere as everyone all around the world gets lost in an endless world that zooms by their eyes like a blur. No where in particular to go. You can swirl deep within the earth, float with the clouds, and traverse wacky alternate dream dimensions where you just forget physics altogether. Everyone is happy. At the speed of sound.
@@Etherion956 My point being that a small fangame made most likely by one or two people. Is looking waay better than a game made by a multi million dollar company!
The gameplay looks like it could be something akin to mario odyssey where there is a main objective and the end and several hidden easter eggs around the map
This game is beautiful. I can feel the speed and the gravity perfectly. I would speed up the effect of the bouncing platforms tough. It cuts all the speed. Any release date? Cause I would totally spend 25 dollars in this game
This is how an open world Sonic game should be. Momentum based rather than reliant on jump pads and speed boost. Those things can be there but not as a crutch. It should also be somewhere between this artsyle and the unnecessarily realistic artstyle of Frontiers
I don't mind a realistic art style, but the problem is that island looks realistic just for the sake of being realistic, and makes it really forgettable
I agree, Sonic should stick with a more vibrant, stylized art style. Like the checker patterns in its more natural zones, and the colorful industrial look for its more metallic zones. It just fits Sonic more, and personally Ive never liked him or any of the characters in realistic settings
This is my idea of a Sonic game. The kind of game where I can see an interesting looking spot on the fly, wonder how I could get up there, eye a few slopes, loops, ramps or what have you, and immediately be able to plan and execute a sick stunt that lands me exactly where I want to go. Freedom to move by my own way.
watching this made me tear up. i have so much hope that they'll make a game like this, with stage based open world, after that ending where the stage is finished, you'll get dropped into another huge open stage to do so much in. but no, we're getting frontiers, and dropping sonic into a generic unreal engine 5 fantasy stock map.
@@biggestalienhominidfan2787 wouldn't say it rejuvenated the franchise, but it's better then what they first reveled. least i can say it holds hope for future games. and yes, this is the ideal sonic game regardless, glad we agree
Unbelievable This looks fun And yet, after this FAN PROJECT, we received forces and frontiers. No boost, no weird stuff. Genuine earned speed through momentum. Good use of the roll ... you know, the reason Sonic is a hedgehog.
@@vinicius100470No. This ACTUALLY aged horribly! Remember, after all the overexaggerated praise this game got, the creator was exposed as a bad person! With an r*cist personality and thinking he was the true saviour of 3D Sonic when this was just a LITERAL MOTHERFUCKING DEMO! After that, nobody praised this fangame anymore and they did like NOTHING of that happened!
Luckily, this comment aged like milk. Frontiers is actually really good movement wise, at least in the open world sections. Cyberspace is slow and stiff, but the open world parts feel very satisfying and smooth.
@@irohnic473 Your comment aged like milk fam. The only people who defend Frontiers is the tryhard, furry, on-the-spectrum fanbase who can’t fathom another flopped game. Now because you fking gorillas beat your chest and screamed louder than any other demographic, SEGA thinks that broken ass game was good and the next one is gonna be ass too.
Years later I still love coming back to this demo and messing around. You know you have a winner when just running and jumping is fun as hell. It's a damn shame there's no full game with this movement system.
Sega, take note. Sonic fans aren't looking for blind nostalgia. We want something that gives us that same innocent rush, that childlike amazement that we felt in the beginning. If this team of indie devs can pull that off, you can too.
@@kap1117 It's actually still being worked on! There's a demo coming out in a bit (presumably at SAGE 2019) with 2 zones and 2 bosses, and the final game will have six zones.
![What if Silver went TOO far back [Sonic Sprite Animation]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/fWOEt8Jjwa0/mqdefault.jpg)
It's like when your friend makes a drawing masterpiece and all he says us "Oh it was just a test lol"
test? no they always say "oh that's just a SKETCH"
When it's about love and not money nice things happen, I guess
but it was though
a test can be impressive, but in the end it’s one freakin level that took ages to develop and took advantage of other people’s work for free, like the unity engine.
@@UA-camPizzer Nobody cares about the Unity engine.
A.K.A. of course they'll use it for free
@@UA-camPizzer : A zillion games use the Unity Engine. I don't get what your point is
It would be an absolute sin if this doesn't get made into a full game. Sega seriously needs to hire these guys.
I agree I really think that game designers like Sega should consider hiring dedicated fans to create outstanding content
Fuckman damn that’s a shame
@@PuckmanBG could you update me?
@@KBvidss sorry I need 2 do other thing
they'd need to bring something new and interesting to the table, not just mario odyssey but sonic...
They made labyrinth zone fun to play.
*Labyrinth Zone*
CastedDreams When fans make zones actually fun
CastedDreams It’s like in my upcoming fangame on ROBLOX, Labyrinth Zone has more springs and levels and fun short cuts. Also, no drowning either, it’s what Sonic actually needs to do
@@Bonetrousle what roblox fangame? ALSO NOT ROBLOX please, talk about REAL sonic fan games
@@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawd Roblox has actually pretty decent Sonic games
hellothere3212 My ROBLOX fan-game, I’m gonna be releasing it in July.
The sense of freedom and control must be so intense, I can't even imagine.
download it for yourself and find out!
@@lofikaiju how
@@lofikaiju nvm
Noose phat oof
Oh trust me as I say this, it's a really Steep learning curve, the physics while strong, feel like you learn so much about how the hill jumps work before you try this.
After you get a feeling for it though...
Quite literally the sky is the limit!
The absolutely maximization of movement is what a sonic game should be like
Tai Ketchum And the braking was on point too. Only thing weird was the rev up- no ball form.
This was _actually_ mesmerizing. For 4 minutes my ADD was gone.
John Gray
There actually is a ball form too, the person in the video just didn't use it
Dude your profile pic is epic
John Doe It runs so smoothly
Reviews be like: *_"You actually feel like Sonic"_*
Spiderman intensifies
I'd believe it though
then some guy nobody's heard of posts a video titled "wHy sOnIc uToPiA iS a fAiLuRe"
you actully feel like sonic in the sonic cd opening
@@KilosFoxo Sonic CD's ending music actually feels like I'm listening to Kermit The Frog rapping.
Heads up to anyone seeing this video: This demo is VERY old, and since then everything has been completely redone. The gameplay, controls, art, physics, performance, and camera system have all been improved, along with a focus on more linear levels as well. Lange and his team are taking their time on the Sonic Utopia update, and that's a good thing!
is there footage of the current build yet?
Misha Not yet, no
Misha think they're releasing a new, original level at this year's Sonic Amateur Games Expo, so should be a new playable demo between July 28th - Aug 4th
Comfortably Dumb that's exciting. I'm looking forward to how the final game will turn out.
Misha and in case you haven't seen, here's some concept art they released as well: twitter.com/GreatLange/status/997690457135104000
At 2:30 I was like "He finally did a mistake" then the game was like "Say SIKE rn"
ikr, caught me off guard
psych
Player: *sees enemy*
Player: Is this a jump pad?
Really? That dumb sonic boom joke?
@@diannejohn5346 no. Hes talking about how the player keeps bouncing on those robots like a jump pad.
@@diannejohn5346 u meany butt face>:O
Hi
SONIC VOICE: BOUNCE PAD!!!!! BOUNCE PAD!!! BOUNCE PAD!!!
THIS is how I imaged a 3D Sonic game before I knew what Sonic Adventure was.
Mr.DASJO so true! Where did it all go so wrong.
@Flying Cat I liked lost world PC
@Flying Cat Sonic Mania
@@baldyairkid1831 sonic lost world has its flaws here and there but i bought it on steam and i can understand why people dont like it but i do
@@joeda900 that game is just a godlike 2d game for me
Start the game up, do a peel out immediately, triple jump onto a spring, roll down a hill, you’re going sonic fast and then the beat drops.
*THATS HOW GREAT THIS GAME IS*
I would also like to note that he hit the checkpoint the moment the the intro kicked up. That was really good.
Timestamps plz
0:12
Thx
When he fell in the water and there was a mf water temple.
i felt that.
Yup
It was labyrinth zone
Labyrinth Act 1,2,3 and ACT4!
*labyrinth zone...*
Even with a more linearl level design and objective and lowered jump height I think this what we always wanted in a 3D sonic, more speed and skill based timing but with the ability to actually see where your going, appreciate the speed, and take in the world you are transverse while trying to maintain a good "combo" for maximum speed.
Yeah, none of that artificial boosting from Sonic Rush and Unleashed.
@@robbiewalker2831 Gonna have to disagree with you here bud.
@@robbiewalker2831 hey at least Unleashed and Rush were good. Unleashed was honestly the last good original 3d sonic game. Notice I said original, Generations focused on remaking old levels and wasn't truly unique like Unleashed
@@smugcat723 I find it to be an overall better experience, regardless.
@@blackpants7385 yeah generations is a fantastic game but I'm just disappointed that they suddenly ditched the good thing they had going for whatever Sonic Lost World was, decided to reinvent sonic for some reason with Sonic Boom, then forgot what made Unleashed and Generations great, thus spawning the underwhelming Sonic Forces
So no one gonna talk about how flawless this gameplay was
No, I don't think I will
ゴ『LiamHasFriends』 ゴ
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I understood that reference
Jobe Porter his channel has a few hundred thousand less subscribers than this has views
It's alright
It looks like a TAS. It’s that good
This is amazing! Perfect example as to why I love this style of 3D Sonic and want to see it attempted officially.
Ya never know, maybe we could talk Christopher Whitehead into convincing SEGA to let him mess around with the idea! It seemed to work just fine with Mania! ^_^
TelekinesticMan booyah!
the only problem even the good 3D sonics have is that the camera can't follow the game speed lol.
@@keyuke06 He did a bad job with mania. And he doesn't know how to make 3D games
Explai how though! XD Like if you don't like mania that's all fine and good but how is it objectively bad?
The soundtrack just screams "freedom". The amount of euphoria in the OST is just unfathomable. It makes me so happy that I can just run everywhere without a damn care in the world, nothing in the way, no stress whatsoever. My all time favorite re-imagining of green hill zone theme.
I especially love how it incorporates Bridge zone as well. I have huge nostalgia for that tune so it was a double-whammy
Euphoria is intensely good to describe this tune. It also manages to be calming at the same time, maybe that's where freedom comes in. Absolute masterpiece.
2:20 Did you just-... Double Loop a single Loop!? I love it aah
Sonic CD intro vibes right here.
GOTTA GET GOOD SPEED
why not just let the fans do the 3D sonic games too
@Dan Massev especially Nintendo who doesn't even let some awesome fan games get money. atleast 1 dollar or 1 cent like jeez
@@aiwjdaiwkdwadkodawdawd it's intellectual property my dude
Dan Massev Every 3D Sonic fan game? HAHAHA.
@@coldzero8584 that was unnecessarily rude
@@coldzero8584 Yeah but it's not like he was attacking YOU personally, he just stated his opinion. No need to make any angry ad hominem statements just because you don't like the way he worded his statement.
Sega be like “you got the homing attack tho?”
And the devs be like "Way ahead of ya."
the homing is a must ^^
Dimps*
Brok Homz is the homing attack bad now?
@@THEFIRSTCRAZYGAMER he never said that.
I think even people who don't like sonic would play this game.
Ichijo Festival
As someone with the same description as you, same. This is always what I imagined 3D sonic to be. I mean, it has momentum.
I feel a certain nostalgia for a game that I never had
Bruh fuck the boost gimme this masterpiece and i will accept it.. IT DESERVES MONEY GODDAMMIT!
Yea but someone like arin Hanson will try to faind ignition to try to make the game look bad
That be me
that version of green hill zone that's playing in the background is amazing
Ok boomer
@@neobro234 very clever
It is a great tune, I gotta say.
It's so relaxing...
Needs more BASS
This is so satisfying to watch, I feel like Sonic
This looks skill-based, tightly controlled and well designed to maximize powerplay... it’s like Sonic Odyssey. Sega should just hire these guys for the next 3D game.
It's one guy, who made (almost) everything from scratch.
I think you meant "Mario Odyssey"
You see, that would actually be a good idea, but at Sega they don't do good ideas.
@@Feuerhamster Never say never, Mania did happen after all.
EatMoreGames Mario odyssey, but with sonic...
I keep on getting anxiety every time he looks like he’s gonna run into a wall and stop or slow down while airborne, because that’s what I see in 3D sonic games nowadays
Not really but ok.
yeah thats the point you're supposed to keep your momentum
I feel like you're not very good at most 3D Sonic games if that's your experience.
Well i trained for like 2 days on the game and when you know it, you don't run anymore into walls
And i'm not even that good
that happens in this game too lmao. it's all just a matter of skill
Man, I keep imagining Sonic's face during this.
The dude likes to go fast and Enjoys doing it, I bet the look on his face is just complete happiness.
Now hows about we make this the next main 3D Sonic game Sega? It would be great, its linear and somewhat open world design is what I feel is great for newcomers and veterans
This is actually really wholesome imagery. Sonic would probably feel more free than ever in this.
Linear and somewhat open world.
What?
This is probably the heaven that hedgehogs go to when they die. Eternal bliss in paradise.
Okay, what Poplarz meant from this (at least in my interpretation) is it’s open world in the sense that it’s open and free to explore. But linear in the sense that it is (presumably) level based with a beginning and end.
@@silverblaize A Gangsters Paradise
this is honestly more satisfying to look at than any satisfying video compilation combined
Imagine if SEGA showed this at the Saturn presentation back in 1994
The company would still exist😂
@@subswithnovideos-dg8cp I think you meant "The company would still exist and be respected by many"
Mario: Mamma Mia
@@markbalan8274 I really think you and him really meant "The company would still be creating consoles and would be highly respected among great technological companies"
They'd still be making consoles.
“Hello and welcome back to another CS:GO surfing tutorial”
I was thinking the same thing, but I havent played in so long, I was thinking Source and 1.6 lol
Based
@bobdol69 The genre shall be coined the term "momentum platformers"
When UA-cam recommends you a sonic fangame that you've never heard about before.
Kortex fr lol
hmmm you ok ryuko matoi?
I knew about this fangame for 3 years and it still looks amazing!
The best thing in whole life
And it shockingly looks good.
The 3D Sonic gameplay style Sonic Team refuses to do.
They don’t refuse to do it, this isn’t what they imagined Sonic to be like.
@@lonradb SA1 Test levels and scrapped windy hill disagree. There's clear signs they wanted to make the game momentum based but couldn't make it work, I would bet because of how new 3D game development was at the time.
They only refuse to do it because their current staff members are so inexperienced and incompetent that they genuinely don't KNOW how to program stuff this complex.
@@theholygamer969 That’s why I was very skeptical about Sonic Frontiers because that team couldn’t get Sonic to run down a hallway without dash pads or automating the whole hallway, how can they make him run around in an “open world”.
Damn, this gameplay is so precise that it looks like a TAS
Especially at 2:30 where Sonic dived in the opaque water and bolted into a tunnel we (or at least I) never knew existed.
Dude has probably tested it so many times and knows exactly what to do to finish it
GladGladiator I have tried way too long to find that tunnel! I had a blast playing the game, but finding it is just too damn cryptic
I just remembered this after seeing the premier for Sonic Frontier. This looks 100 times more fun, intense and dynamic than what they are going for.
This is everything i hoped frontiers would be. cant say for sure how its gonna feel to play just yet but it doesnt look that promising unfortunately.
It's empty, just like Sonic Frontiers. The problem with this series right now is the devs listen to the fandumb, who don't know what they're talking about.
@@21kHzBANK21kHZ it’s a demo of a fan game and it’s already far more interesting looking than sonic frontiers, maybe think about what you’re going to say before opening your mouth
@@21kHzBANK21kHZ sure it's empty. But look at the movement? You can't look at that and think that doesn't look fun to screw around with for a couple of hours!?
The whole point of sonic is momentum, the better you learn a level the faster you go. Speed is the reward for being competent with the game. As you can see in this tech demo.
Frontiers looks painfully slow and there are no momentum mechanics at all.
However I agree that the movement is only part of the whole that makes a good game.
Frontiers definitely needs more to do and to make moving as Sonic fun
This is how an open world sonic game should look, bright and cartoon like
Movie Sonic: “Gotta Go Fast”
Utopia Sonic: “Hold my Chaos Emeralds”
Benn 😂😂
Archie Sonic: *I'm going to end this man's whole career*
Mister Suckerberg But Archie Sonic’s career already ended. The Archie Comics have been discontinued. So he can’t end someone else’s career
@@GameGuyBenn Well Played Benn, Well Played.
@Flying Cat i doubt of classic Sonic.
That running through the loop twice to gain even more speed at 2:18, simply beautiful~
Peter Scordamaglia II I just realized he did that likely because Sonic does it in the opening animation to Sonic CD. Holy crap. This game is BEAUTIFUL.
That move was actually genius.
I feel like a 3d sonic game should almost handle more like a tony hawk game than a conventional platformer.
YES!! THANK YOU!
You made somebody glad lmao
Why would you say something so controversial, yet so brave
I disagree.
This game kind of does that. I think the only issue with this demo is that the various obstacles are placed haphazardly. As I played, I could make a mistake, fall, and think, "Ha ha! My mistake. Wow, this is fun!"
But after a while I started looking around, wondering how the heck to get anywhere. I saw this one spiraling strip of land that I never could manage to get to. It's not just that it's fairly large, but that there is _no_ sense of a path at all.
If this were made into a proper game, I think that this needs to be addressed. It doesn't need to be an obvious race course, but some level of direction would be better. You shouldn't need to replay a level 10 times before you have any sense of direction in it.
You just gotta come back and watch this every now and then
1:12 onward is the most satisfying thing i've ever seen in any sonic related content
I can't shake the feeling that this is Sonic done perfectly. It's pretty much everything I've wanted since I first saw the intro to CD when I was like 7.
3:20 this is the beauty of a great sonic fan game.
*The perfect Sonic game doesn't exi-*
It dose it's called sonic 3 and knuckles
@@somethingsomething9008 no.
@@somethingsomething9008 then the perfect 3d sonic game doesn't exi-
@@somethingsomething9008 no
adven is kinda cool
"So what should the fluidity be like?"
"Yes."
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That had to have been the most satisfying fan made sonic game I’ve ever watched
The visuals are just so pleasing somehow. I dont care about 8k, a billion triangles and all that fancy stuff on unreal engine 5. This pretty much looks just as good while needing much less graphical power.
"Sonic can't work in 3D!"
That's what they said about Castlevania.
^
To be fair, their first attempts were with limited resources. At the time I could believe it
Oh yeah yeah
@@markbalan8274 Hahahaahaha you know how to rap dude hahahaha
This got me all in my feelings I swear because I KNOW Sega literally could care less that this is what we want.
Every single bit of code that went into making this is sacred text.
Bless you, developers.
FUCKING THIS.
Yeah I hate comments like this, it’s comments like this that made sonic games the way they are now, because comments like this pressure sega to never change, never innovate, never do anything creative, that’s why there’s more classic sonic pandering than ever, cos they “don’t give a shit about the fans” lol sure
@@thirdocean3784 This is way more creative than any of the boost hallways
What *_WE_* want?!?!?!?! More like what *_YOU_* want. I would get bored of this very mediocre Game after 2 minutes.
@@KaitouKaiju
As much as i dislike the boost, the boost Games are much more interesting than a nothing-to-do map with no story or boss fights.
Can we appreciate how perfect and beautiful is this moment? 3:20
I was frothing at the mouth
It's so beautiful it gives me childhood memories
When a group of fans with little to no funding are better at making a game than a company with access to some of the most highly expensive equipment. Then we got a problem.
Awesome Job BTW!
This isnt really a game.
How do you even know where you're going with this level?
@@Takeru9292 its a demo.
Its called passion and drive. Fans will almost always have more of it than companies.
@@cl4m473 It is a demo that is for a game that is being made. It's a proof of concept that blows almost anything Sega has done out of the water.
Decided to come back after watching the sonic frontiers gameplay reveal. Utopia is able to capture going fast in an open world so well. Not to mention how well designed the open world is here.
Yea and even if frontiers had momentum it wont really change anything frontiers isnt even built like a sonic game its more "realistic" it lacks loops and deep drops or ditches
I like the way the world looks in frontiers but i wish they couldv made it look more natural like added giant rock loops and natural looking grind rails and stuff everything in the world looks strange just floating everwhere
It isnt that well designed, it's super aimless with no sense of direction, which is the same problem for frontiers
@@z-chan946 Frontiers does have direction? How you saying this when everything hasn’t been revealed yet?
@@midnight_horizen8184 I mean as in, no direction of where to go, not what it the game will be
This is better than any 3D Sonic game. This way 3D Sonic could be fun! This has so much potential!
3d sonic IS fun.
@@elijahtoombs3524 In concept yes 3d can be fun.... but with sonic teams execution on past games I think not. Sonic team doesn't understand how to make sonic fun or expressive like how utopia showcased.
@@bluudevil4483 personally i prefer 3d sonic, even tho 3&k is my fav. Sonic game
@@elijahtoombs3524 fuck you.
@@nachomanrandy woah hey stop right there you're crossing the line young man
Everyone who says momentum has no idea what it means, it’s the product of mass and velocity so when you say that Sonic team probably thinks you want Sonic to be faster or fatter. What you actually mean to say is actual physics, like the acceleration due to gravity. We’re never going to get what we want unless we learn how to say what we want properly.
Wow. A 3D Sonic game that seems like something an actual 3D Sonic game should look like. This is unheard of.
Bro this reminds me of the fan-made Sonic game Sonic Robo Blast 2. I abandoned it long ago, but it was just like this!!
@@ginraw happy to tell you that srb2 is still being supported, they're going to make a 2.2 version later this year... Maybe.
If the creator doesn’t do a full game, Imma head out
They going to make it, but with more linear levels
@@maximmikheev8172 i dont care how many of these stages they do, it'll have insane amount of replayability to support it.
what if people could stole the code from the game and make stages with it with that sonic design and playability? i think that's like, literally impossible there's no way people can do that.
This is what the Sonic Frontiers gameplay should've looked like *actual momentum based gameplay and physics!* It's really embarrassing that 2 people with no budget hit the bullseye on this, and yet a AAA game studio couldn't even get close.
Honestly! Sonic Utopia as a fully fledged game could be absolutely AMAZING. It has so much potential for more zones, each with their own unique open world gimmicks.
@@javoobis3107 sonic utopia dont have physics XD
Yes except make it less floaty
@@Etherion956 what?
@@Etherion956 it literally has momentum which is physics my guy
I love the level design here so much. It perfectly captures the branching paths from the 2D games where no matter what you’re doing or where you are in the level you’re constantly moving towards the end of it. If you know the layout you can head straight for the end or just explore and have fun.
The underwater moment got me by total surprise. This is chaotically enormous
Ikr
Some guy: Sonic can't work in 3D
The leader of this project: Hold my beer
But sonic have 2 good 3d games: Adventure & Adventure 2
This is pretty incredible stuff. If the animations were more alive for Sonic with some squash and stretch, this would be perfect.
Sauce even without squash and stretch,it looks better than most 3D sonics
I feel like it should be minor.
Looking at this after the sonic frontiers reveal is beyond sad
The fans yet again proving that they could make better games than Sega. 😞
@@Razorstolemycar Yeah, people nowadays meme about "hire this man Sega" but they really got a glimpse about what makes Sonic great, Sega is just lost
Jan jan 😔
Those were the limitless boundaries i didn't know i wanted ! It feels freeing.
Sonic Mania: "Gotta go fast!"
Sonic X: "That's cute."
NyFo Nyfoun: "Who's cute now?"
The way this crushes Sonic Frontiers into the dust is unbelievable. Sonic Team flops again.
I really hope that this comment ages like milk and Sonic Team finds a way to turn it around. If not then yeah Sonic Team clearly have no clue on what they are doing! 😞
Game ain't even out yet, calm your ass
@@Razorstolemycar From the current gameplay, Sonic Frontiers looks stiff just like Forces and a lot of other 3D Sonic games. I’m not sure why Sonic Team refuses to do momentum-based physics and more free-flowing movement like Sonic Utopia does. Sonic Utopia has no budget and they’ve got it right. It made sense in the late 90s and 2000s, making stages super linear due to hardware limitations, but they have such a big opportunity here now. IMO, I get this unshakable feeling that Sonic Frontiers is looking to fall short when watching Sonic Utopia vids. Utopia art style and at least *some* of its momentum-based physics + control would have been better.
@@jokingbr2137 I bet huffing on that copium feels good doesn't it?
It's Sonic Team, it'll be sh1t
Unbelievable on what?
2:20 was amazing
It looks as if it's right out of the Sonic CD opening!
yeah !
He even does the thing with his arms and legs when you're about to spin midair.
Don't count on it. One feature all sonic games share is an uncountable load of easter eggs.
Example: Sonic looks like a teardrop. The professor who gave him his speed (eggman, its a long story) is always having his plans thwarted by... That's right, Sonic.
protizemo s What does that have to do with anything? And that thing you're talking about was never canon to the games, it was something that one of many Western adaptations made up.
The death of the momentum killing jump is always a joy to see
That might be a bug in the OG Genesis games but I always hated it too tbh.
No joke, the first 10 seconds I said "now THIS is a 3D sonic game. It actually looks like it feels so good to play. This a sonic game that I would pay for if released.
I was so hypnotized by this. This looks amazing.
Man seeing this again and just how fluid you play, is amazing compared to what was shown recently for the open world sonic game. This feels right, classic but upgraded just enough to still feel like the original. Great concept.
The most interactive sonic game EVER MADE.
I came back here after seeing the Frontier trailer. Dear god I am hoping it ends up being something like this
I came back here cuz seeing the frontiers gameplay reminded me of this...
I now realize that this is 100x better than frontiers.
Because yoy played the game right? God, Sonic fans are idiots.
Crazy how this looks better than Frontiers.
Lmao
Crazy on what?
@OctoOOZ still being mid
Frontiers isn't even out yet
@@assbeater they can't nothin shit in 6 months
*insert generic but embarrassingly true comment about how yet again a fanmade project is 1000X better than anything SEGA ever made here*
Havent i seen you from google+. True comment btw
@@lordraiden7397 depends on whether or not you were in the dbz or dokkan battle communities. i think i remember seeing you a few times as well, or at least someone with a similar name
@@juniorkyle8123 i debated in Dragon ball zetto.
@@lordraiden7397 yeah. i think ive seen you before
Insert comment how this is what is called an opinion. A terrible opinion in my case.
This looks like a game where you don't want to stop running even for a second, which has been missing from soooo many sonic games.
He knows where all the secrets are. You'd probably get lost
I love how this looks 10x better than the new game.
@TheDarkZone and?
@@N00N-0_00 make a demo level and cancell it inst impreisve
@@N00N-0_00 why i would be jealous of a fangame? this game would not survive 2 days on steam
@@N00N-0_00 sonic fanbase asks for a different thing every time, just NOW they want momentum when nobody said that this was a problem. the fans just don't know what they want. but seriously, if this is sold on steam it would receive terrible criticism for how boring the world and its design are. Also, even if he was a modern sonic fanboy, it's better than overvaluing a mediocre fangame
100% better
WHY ISNT SEGA FUNDING THIS!?!
They were too busy funding Sonic Forces.
Unfortunately, I believe it's more profitable for them to make a lackluster Sonic game themselves than to allow someone else to make a great Sonic game for them and then have to pay those people their share.
Sonic Mania doesn't happen everyday :(
@@Crit-Chance
_"Unfortunately, I believe it's more profitable for them to make a lackluster Sonic game themselves than to allow someone else to make a great Sonic game for them and then have to pay those people their share.
"_
Nonsense. The fans make games that would make more money, and the fans do it with less people: SEGA should have no trouble paying them.
“Sonic you can’t call me that”
- Knuckles
The most satisfying gameplay I think I’ve ever seen.
The only thing that this game needs is better running sound effect
If he sounded more like a muscle car, it would be perfect
Honestly I love the running sound effect. It sounds how his feet look.
And a storyline
@Oshabot 16, I think @Jam Usagi meant that the sound matched with the feet movement speed.
@Oshabot 16 I, know.
THIS is what sonic's all about!!
Also, making Sonic slightly “magnetic” to enemies during his trajectory adjustments is an amazing idea.
You have to press jump again is a "double jump / homing attack combo" but without the annoying sound of the homing attack locking on and the momentum breaking after hitting anything. I never understood why Sonic Team homing attack was so unsatisfying until I played Utopia...
Everyone: Sega should work with these guys! They bring such fresh ideas!
Sega: 0/10 no boost
hahah pathetics....
In actuality...
(3 years ago...)
SEGA: Hang on, I think this new modern Sonic game will stink. (sigh...) If only we could go back to the good old days with just 3 essentials. The classic gameplay, the limited moves, no voice actors, boosting, or even homing attacks.
The fans: Isn’t there a big project your doing?
SEGA: (gasp!)
(Sonic Mania releases)
SEGA: We really don’t do this often, don’t we?
also no automation
@@javianwilliams7463 That doesnt count Sega didnt make that one by themselves, they just hired fans to develop it
This game looks genuinely great. I could *feel* the energy of blasting at high speeds around Green Hill, just like Sonic. The graphics are pleasing and the Green Hill remix is on pointe. This game just captures so well what Sonic's speed truly is. I love it
Description: "This was ajust a random run i did of the demo"
*Literrally flies at **1:19*
This isn't flying, it's falling, in style
EfrainQuezada. Ikr.
Could you imagine an open world sonic game like this?
It's just a testbed for the physics. The final game's levels will have a more linear structure.
Although I personally wouldn't mind levels like this that functioned as hub worlds, with collectibles n stuff.
I'm thinking breath of the wild scope here, imagine exploring a massive world to find thingies that make you go faster!
For example, perhaps find an orb somewhere that'll let you drop dash or the such
Or plant away an area in your mind that has a large vertical cliff, and come back when you have a consumable red spring, or suction shoes
What if you see a massive loop in the distance, so you parkour your way there to find that it's too big for you to get on top of, so you plan a highly complex route in the surrounding hillsides to gain momentum to launch yourself up there. YOU planed that route, YOU executed it, and YOU got the awesome reward for getting on top of it with a well placed jump on just the right spot!
Sega, get your shit together
Napkin Dictator Imagine...
By far the most expansive game ever made.
Nothing fancy, just some ramps to jump off, and some jungles whiz through in the blink of an eye.
It hits 10/10's everywhere as everyone all around the world gets lost in an endless world that zooms by their eyes like a blur.
No where in particular to go. You can swirl deep within the earth, float with the clouds, and traverse wacky alternate dream dimensions where you just forget physics altogether.
Everyone is happy. At the speed of sound.
I have faith in sega for them to not do that. They're not konami, or EA
This is all Frontiers had to do, but we're apparently stuck with the stupid boost button for eternity.
recognized your pfp as ark thompson, checked out your channel, love the RE content man
This clears Frontiers every day of the week
It's funny how this small fan game has waay less pop in then a game made by a million dollar company! How did they even manage that!?
@@Razorstolemycar hurr durr, if a game has more money than another game, the game with more money should be better 🤓
@@Etherion956 My point being that a small fangame made most likely by one or two people. Is looking waay better than a game made by a multi million dollar company!
@@Razorstolemycar yes, its a test level, looks very unfinished btw
@@Etherion956 Ok what game test level are you talking about? Because if your talking about Utopia then of course its a test level it's a demo
The gameplay looks like it could be something akin to mario odyssey where there is a main objective and the end and several hidden easter eggs around the map
This game is beautiful. I can feel the speed and the gravity perfectly. I would speed up the effect of the bouncing platforms tough. It cuts all the speed.
Any release date? Cause I would totally spend 25 dollars in this game
This is how an open world Sonic game should be. Momentum based rather than reliant on jump pads and speed boost. Those things can be there but not as a crutch. It should also be somewhere between this artsyle and the unnecessarily realistic artstyle of Frontiers
I don't mind a realistic art style, but the problem is that island looks realistic just for the sake of being realistic, and makes it really forgettable
I agree, Sonic should stick with a more vibrant, stylized art style. Like the checker patterns in its more natural zones, and the colorful industrial look for its more metallic zones. It just fits Sonic more, and personally Ive never liked him or any of the characters in realistic settings
No
This is my idea of a Sonic game. The kind of game where I can see an interesting looking spot on the fly, wonder how I could get up there, eye a few slopes, loops, ramps or what have you, and immediately be able to plan and execute a sick stunt that lands me exactly where I want to go.
Freedom to move by my own way.
watching this made me tear up. i have so much hope that they'll make a game like this, with stage based open world, after that ending where the stage is finished, you'll get dropped into another huge open stage to do so much in. but no, we're getting frontiers, and dropping sonic into a generic unreal engine 5 fantasy stock map.
I feel you my man
And yet Frontiers was an absolute success, wonder what you have to say now. I still think this is better
@@biggestalienhominidfan2787 wouldn't say it rejuvenated the franchise, but it's better then what they first reveled. least i can say it holds hope for future games. and yes, this is the ideal sonic game regardless, glad we agree
Unbelievable
This looks fun
And yet, after this FAN PROJECT, we received forces and frontiers.
No boost, no weird stuff.
Genuine earned speed through momentum.
Good use of the roll
... you know, the reason Sonic is a hedgehog.
Indeed.
A real shame the creator turned out to be a jerk towards people with disabilities.
@SegaMario why must this always happen?
@@thewindwakinghero7423 There's always a catch to those with respect.
I hope this is how the new sonic frontiers game is designed
Hopefully. Probably not.
came from the future to say no
Here to cleanse my eyes after Frontier's gameplay.
aged horribly
@@vividcolorandrichaudio6134 eh, not really. While my opinion on Frontiers isn't as negative as it used to be, it hasn't changed all that much.
@@vinicius100470No. This ACTUALLY aged horribly! Remember, after all the overexaggerated praise this game got, the creator was exposed as a bad person! With an r*cist personality and thinking he was the true saviour of 3D Sonic when this was just a LITERAL MOTHERFUCKING DEMO! After that, nobody praised this fangame anymore and they did like NOTHING of that happened!
@@JoseGregorioValeroVillarroel I really couldn't care less about any twitter drama, Utopia is still an awesome fan game.
Imagine being able to run from green hill zone to chemical plant zone, the music changes and the sky gets darker
seamless transitions between levels! yes! open world sonic? o.o
Miguel Perez lol exactly
3:22 Holy Jesus...that’s a mighty fine view there. 😳
Sega should just pay these guys to create a full game based off these mechanics. Frontiers isn’t it dawg
@skobei this is how sonic should be though. It’s the perfect 3D adaptation of the 2D games
these guys 2 weeks later: the game is canceled bc we fight on discord 😭
Luckily, this comment aged like milk. Frontiers is actually really good movement wise, at least in the open world sections. Cyberspace is slow and stiff, but the open world parts feel very satisfying and smooth.
@@irohnic473 I didn’t think so unfortunately. They were close though
@@irohnic473 Your comment aged like milk fam. The only people who defend Frontiers is the tryhard, furry, on-the-spectrum fanbase who can’t fathom another flopped game. Now because you fking gorillas beat your chest and screamed louder than any other demographic, SEGA thinks that broken ass game was good and the next one is gonna be ass too.
Years later I still love coming back to this demo and messing around. You know you have a winner when just running and jumping is fun as hell. It's a damn shame there's no full game with this movement system.
Sega, take note. Sonic fans aren't looking for blind nostalgia. We want something that gives us that same innocent rush, that childlike amazement that we felt in the beginning.
If this team of indie devs can pull that off, you can too.
The best sonic game that never was
Just imagine this but with 10 or more levels that would be sonic heaven
Even if this was a Sonic game it still wouldn’t be the best.
@@lonradb I think it would still be one of the tops tho
If it’s underneath Sonic 3 and Knuckles I agree.
@@kap1117 It's actually still being worked on! There's a demo coming out in a bit (presumably at SAGE 2019) with 2 zones and 2 bosses, and the final game will have six zones.
@@jingusflorpus4274 ohh that's cool! I didn't know
Sonic's speeding around like if he stoped he would die.
Satanael
H E S P E E D
Sonic the floor-stain.
This dude is so skilled he got a triple kill twice without touching the ground
So a hexa-kill?
@@Selrisitai well yes but no