How an F4U Corsair Pilot Did the Impossible
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2022
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This is the story of Jesse Folmar, the Corsair pilot that took on 8 Soviet Mig-15 jets in the Korean war, and became the only F4U Corsair pilot to shoot one down. This was made using the World War II flight simulator War Thunder and IL-2 Sturmovik Great Battles series. Hope you enjoy! Please like, comment, and subscribe. #WW2 #WWIIHistory #WarThunder
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And the competition entrance??
I fly electric remotes and that's one of the best looking I've seen. I'll have to check those out when weather is better for flying.
Amazing video....Thanks
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Maybe a little more study of Navy and Marine squadron designations would have given you a clue that VMF312 is a Marine Corps squadron! Duh! My father in law was in that squadron flying off the Carrier USS SICILY! V for fixed wing, M for Marine, A for attack! Col James Johnson later became their CO flying A4 Skyhawks out of MCAS Cherry Point. JESSE obviously was a Marine who had flown the corsair in World War II!
I have and fly a FMS F-7F TIGERCAT awesome flying RC warbird.
Thanks for the corsair vid.
You know the most impressive thing about this story is that search and rescue picked up the pilot within 8 minutes!
I'm surprised he wasn't killed in his parachutte after killing the other pilot...
Considering it was within range of enemy MiGs it is pretty ballsy to fly in with a lumbering amphib like that.
I don't remember anything ever being quick in the Navy.
@@RCAvhstape Im sure there was some jets also around
AWSOME RECOVERY!!!
My dad rest his soul was a combat medic World War II and the Korean War he was also at Pearl Harbor when it got bombed he always told me that was his favorite airplane God bless the Navy
Very cool!
I was fortunate to have known Garth Brown, who was a Pearl harbor survivor off the USS Oklahoma.
God bless your father,the medical corpsman. I appreciate his role in that war. 👍
I somewhat like the round body, reverse gull wings, and radial engines. With all these together they create a fine killing machine.
X to doubt.
Besides the F4U Corsair the only other prop engined fighter to shoot down a MiG-15 during the Korean War was a British Royal Navy Hawker Sea Fury piloted by Peter Carmichael.
Yes. amazing how the impossible was achieved by a commonwealth pilot too!
@@davesherry5384 and australian ;;GlosterMeteor mk8 shot down mig15 27 march 1953 sgt George HALE sqn77 RAAF
@@34500dauphin Yes George Hale shot down 2 MiG-15s in the Gloster Meteor F.8 which is now on display in an Australian Aviation Museum
@@34500dauphin that was a jet
I remember that there was a P-51 mustang that shot down a MIG. Same with that abomination called the twin mustang
The only US Navy Ace during the Korean War was Guy Pierre Bordelon who shot down 5 enemy aircraft in the F4U Corsair. And there was Royce Williams a US Navy F9F Panther pilot who shot down 4 MiG-15s in one sortie
IIRC for decades Royce Williams got no official credit due to the Mig’s were Soviet aircraft
He turned that F4U into his SABRE. CHOP, CHOP COMMUNISTS!
You forgot there was also another Piston fighter pilot that shoot down a MiG-17 jet. He was also the last person to shoot down a jet in history during the Korean war. Lt. Charles W. Hartman who flew the Douglas A-1 Skyraider.
@@protennis365 vietnam not korea
@@protennis365 That was in the Vietnam War just like an in the Vietnam War a US Navy A-4 Skyhawk also shot down a MiG-17 Fresco with Zuni unguided rockets.
Thanks for watching guys! Historical notes - First, VMA 312 was actually a Marine squadron, not Navy. But some of the shots may show Navy on the aircraft. This is a limitation with the skins I have available in my simulator, but I have done my best. Next, you can see the North Korean roundels on these fighters, but I mention "Soviet" pilots. According to what I found, many of Mig-15 pilots in Korea were actually Soviet (Even though they told the UN otherwise). Which is why I say that. There was no info that I could find that on the actual identity of this pilot. Hope you enjoyed :)
The title reminds me of “Swede” Vejtasa and taking the SBD against a flight of Zeros. 20 years ago (he was still alive) there was a profile of his mission where he shot down three in History Channel's 'Long Odds' wherein he is interviewed. Please consider doing a treatment on his story; after that engagement he was transferred to a fighter wing.
As for the Cousair and its ground support role the number of NKA Chinese 'Volunteers' stampedes it saved UN forces from can't be overstated. ref: Mortal Combat' (Toland) and 'Last Stand of Fox Company' (Drury) its a miracle the conflict was held to a stalemate.
Excellent work TJ! Keep them coming. These stores need to be heard and these sky Warriors remembered. Bravo Zulu!
If I’m not mistaken the Soviets did confirm that they had lost pilots in this incident, and that’s why it had been kept under wraps for a long time. Edit: I think I had the confused with the other air battle where an F9F Panther shot down several Soviet piloted Mig 15s.
G'day TJ, enjoyed this very much mate. 3 notes; Hawker Sea Fury Mig15 shoot down (piloted by Peter Carmichael) your next good story please? Also, people drive me a little crazy calling Flying Boats "Seaplanes" (it looks like a Martin Mariner) small detail, but important I believe, history must be preserved Ay! Fully understand skin availability issues, please continue to mention the correct details in your notes, us History Nuts DO care! Goodonya, great work, keep it up.😃
Just to be devil's advocate, the Marines fall under the Department of the Navy.
Early 90s I saw a Corsair in a hangar at MCAS Cherry Point, NC. It had flown in under its own power and I think it was on its way to a museum. The Marines had spotted it in a hangar normally used for Harriers, with wheel chocks and a drip pan to catch oil from the radial engine. The aircraft was fully airworthy and totally badass. Larger than I expected and built like a tank. Looked like it would still do a lot of damage on the battlefield even in the modern day, so long as enemy fighters and SAMs were kept away from it.
Have an uncle that served in the 1st Marine Division in Korea. Much respect for those who provided air support.
Semper Fi
Thanks for the great story on Marine Aviators. They are not always known to do dogfight, but when the situation calls for it, they sure are capable of giving hell to enemy aircraft.
YUT!!!!!!
Pappy Boyington was a Marine Corsair pilot, and he certainly didn't shy away from dogfights.
A friend of mine flew P-51's in Korea defending the Pusan perimeter as CAS. He said that if you could see the Mig first they were easy to avoid by turning inside them and going back under them.
Amazing recollection of absolutely magnificent combat flying. Against overwhelming odds, this pilot displayed a fierce aggressive response. Bravo for this American combat pilot. Hopefully his bravery and initiative will be regaled in continued telling by good folks like those who presented this vlog. Thank you all.
By the time I hired on with the Vought Aircraft Corp. in 1979 the F4U Corsair was history and the A7 Corsair was reaching the end of its usefulness, being outclassed by new technology jets. Now it's 2022 and I'm still working there albeit with a new company that bought out the old Vought.
My dad worked at Chance Vought/LTV from 1952 to 1981. He worked on F4U, Cutlass, F8 Crusader, A7 Corsair 2, and DC 10, 747 subassemblies. He was an inspector, mostly canopies and cockpits. We talked about aircraft all the time.
What do they do now? I heard they help build the 787 now.
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I knew Jesse Folmar, and heard him tell this story a couple of times. He mentioned the Russian pilots that even our own government told him weren’t Russian until the 90s, his wingman getting shot but covering him so he could make it back to the ship, and he said it was a submarine that picked him up instead of a flying boat. I still have a Corsair drawing he signed framed with a few other momentous he gave me. His was the first military funeral I attended.
One of my Dad's cousins was a Russian linguist. He never told us who he worked for. I'm guessing it was the CIA. Anyway, whoever he worked for sent him to some little flyspeck of an island off North Korea when the war started. His job was to monitor the North Korean air/ground radio frequencies. All of the ground controllers and pilots were Russians. He said the US never talked about it because they didn't want to provoke the Soviets into starting a bigger war. For decades they stuck with the fiction that the pilots were North Korean. I often wonder if the same was true of Viet Nam.
I’m not young, so I also remember the constant lies about who was flying the “North Korean” jets.
It’s amazing to me because you would have to believe the North Korean pilots could get trained up to effectively fly these jets in a matter of days, or even hours. It had to be the Soviets and yet anyone who didn’t believe the lies was some kind of kook.
@@vanceb1 We were fighting mostly Soviets in Vietnam too.
@@tonyennis1787 I've seen interviews with Vietnam era pilots and they said they saw pilots in North Vietnamese aircraft that appeared to be Caucasian. Hmmm, I wonder what county they may have come from?
@@tonyennis1787 I do not know about pilots, but there was a book written by a Russian I read a few years ago about the anti aircraft missile defense systems in North Vietnam that were manned by Russian "volunteers" and Chinese army types. He was there.
1993, I saw a F4U Corsair fly overhead at a Korean War Memorial dedication in Washington state. Beautiful airplane. 🇺🇸
All Top WWll Fighters can out turn early Jets !!
Same with the Royal Navy Sea Fury Kills !! Semper Fi
I also read about USMC F4U Corsair Ace Phillip DeLong who shot down 11 Japanese planes in WWII and then in the Korean War, Phillip DeLong shot down 2 Yak-9s
Both Jesse Folmar and Philip DeLong were squadronmates in VMFA-312, the Checkerboard.
@@kristoffermangila Outstanding. I didn’t know that
Awesome American Story!!! Even as a little kid I was always amazed by the F4U Corsair & always dreamed of being apart of the Greatest Generation of our time! Without a doubt the Corsair is my pick for the Greatest Fighter of its time!
I believe it was from the Aircraft Carrier USS Oriskany that they flew from.
I remember reading somewhere that the first jets shot down in the Korean War were from the USS Oriskany.
My Dad served on her during the Korean War.
The Oriskany was also the filming location for a movie starring Grace Kelly, William Holden, and Mickey Rooney.
The film was titled "Bridge at Toko Re". It is worth watching. A very good film!!!
One of the best carrier aviation films ever.
I think that they were still on the USS Bairoko when it happened but I'm not sure. After I got out of the Marines and got my master's degree I started working for the Air Force at Rome Air Development Center as a physicist, I went in the hanger one day and saw a Scooter (A4) that dated from my time in the Marines. It was very dusty and had a bird nest in one intake. They painted it nice and put "USS Oriskany" on it. It is in the Oriskany, NY town park along with the ships bell and anchor.
@@joeosman2629 I do know the movie was filmed mainly on the USS Oriskany. My Dad was on board her at the time. I have his slides here with close-up shots of Mickey Rooney and William Holden on the ship's "set" area.
I actually have all his slides of his time on board.
I don't think anyone in the family wants them.
I am hoping there is a group somewhere for Oriskany memorabilia that I can send them to.
Another recommendation for "The Bridges at Toko-Ri". Great movie!
Free on Pluto.
Thanks, know what I'm doing this morning
My two fav prop planes, the AU-1 version of the Corsair with extra armor and firepower plus the A-1 Skyraider. The AU-1 traded speed for extra pilot protection and could carry 10 rockets, two 1000lb bombs, and had 4 20mm cannon .
The Skyraider carried even more and was up armored in Korea due to the ferocious ground fire they faced.
Fun tidbit: as the state plane in Connecticut, where Vought was based back in the day, the F4U is among the images on drivers licenses & state IDs here.
Connecticut also home of Pratt & Whitney.
@@thomasjordan5578 And Kaman, and a bunch of others. Though most are gone now and even Pratt & Whitney are just a shell of their former self.
I was at "Corsairs over Connecticut" down in Stratford "I believe" years ago for a big Calibration on them. Seeing a bunch of them on display and actually flying had me in goosebumps during the whole time I was there... 💙💙💙
Unreal....determined, skilled, highly motivated pilot. MiG 15 's were the top dog next to the 86 Sabre but one generation behind doesn't mean he game is over by any stretch. NEVER SAY NEVER...
The Corsair was one of the reasons why the Douglas Skyraider, and later on the A-10. To bring the fight with firepower to the enemy.
My father was in the Navy during the Korean war and served on the battleship USS New Jersey. He was stationed in Japan for two years. Thank you to all service men and women that have served and sacrificed their time and lives for this country.
Happy "Yeager Day"!
75 years ago today (October 14, 1947), Chuck Yeager broke the Sound Barrier (acceleration to over 1,200 MPH) while Test Piloting his Bell X-1 "GLAMOROUS GLENNIS".
Incredible story! Thank you to these skilled pilots. Corsair=thumbs up. Great work on the video.
Glad you enjoyed it!
My Grandfather flew the F4U Corsair in WWII and Vets in the Korean war. Very well made video! Thanks!
The Voight F4U is my very favorite fighter form WW-II. Its inverted gull wing is beautiful and makes it impossible to mistake for any other fighter. In addition, it had an impressive 11 to 1 kill ratio during the war.
This story is the icing on the cake for this impressive plane. Apparently the MIG pilot did not realize what a formidable fighter the F4U was as he leisurely turned and climbed right into the devastating fire power of the six browning machine guns.
Weeeellll, that's not one I've heard about before. What an epic showdown. Thanks TJ.
That would be a crazy memory to have in your memory.
I think you’d be like, “Well, _THAT_ was fairly surreal. I can’t believe that just happened to me. Did I _really_ experience that? Or did I dream that? Did I _really_ just jump out of an airplane over the ocean and watch it get shot to pieces?”
I have the perfect actor that could have starred in this movie about this heroic dogfight: Robert Conrad! At minimum, Conrad had a ton of experience in the F4U at least acting on that late 70s TV show! Thanks again for another wonderful adventure video, TJ! Jim C.
He never flew one
Thanks!
Pappy was so good he even shot down an American plane, oops
@@raymondclark1785 when was this?
@@mikeholland1031 WWII
The Corsair is one of my favorite WW2 aircraft. My late uncle was a mechanic for Major Boyington in VMF-214 in the Solomon Islands during WW2. There was a tv show based upon VMF-214 and the Black sheep squadron. Robert Conrad played Major Boyington. The original name of the show was, “Bah bah, black sheep”, later renamed simply, The “Black sheep squadron”. I’d talk for hours with my uncle about some of his experiences and exploits during the war. I recall him saying that the show Bah bah black sheep was a load of bah bah bullshit🤣😂🤣😂.
Thanks for sharing the video post and best of luck 🍀to you and your family.
Its airs on H&I channel which is over the Air Broadcast
Boyington actually appeared in that show, twice.
@@SealofPerfection i also just read vma 214 has been redesignated vmfa 214 as they transition from harriers to f35b...
one of my favorite show. have the series on DVD. i wonder how pappy would have done against a Mig
Had the good fortune to work on a F4 Corsair in A&P school. Wasn't a WW2 aircraft but saw action in Central America
Unrelated to the MIG, you landed your Corsair quite well.
Thank you for taking the time to give us this video.
Hell of a pilot. I'm excited to see the new movie 'Devotion' that features this beautiful war bird.
The next story I recommend would be on William Overstreet Jr. solo pursuit of a German Messerschmitt Bf 109G underneath the arches of the Eiffel Tower in 1944.
Amazing video- can’t imagine how much bravery that must take!
"the peak and/or epitome of cool stuff!"
The first time I heard this story was in 1977 when I checked into VMFA-312 in Beaufort, SC. Later I transferred into VMFA-451. One of the RIOs in our F-4 squadron was Major John "Little John" Cummings who had been a member of the only all Marine F-4 aircrew to shoot down a MIG during Vietnam. And like Jesse Folmar, Captain Cummings and his pilot, Maj Lee ‘Bear’ Lasseter, were shot down on their way back the carrier and had to bailout. Thanks for this informative video.
As we say in my country "it's the indian not the arrow" what a hell of a pilot!
I live in the US and use that expression also.
I understand that during Vietnam a Spad shot down a Mig when the Mig attacked from behind, overshot as the Spad pilot was getting as "dirty" as possible to slow down, and then Spad pilot saw him through his gun sight.
My dad was a plane captain on USS Princeton and USS Antietam during Korea and worked on the F4U's. They were a favorite with the infantry.
That's why I love the A-10. He'll be low and slow, but he'll jack you up.
Then the A-10 will lay the Hand of God upon you!! An armored jet that was built around the gun it contains. Not stealth not fast it wants you to see and fire upon this flying tank. Most ugly yet beautiful sight to a ground soldier Brrrtttt
That was an amazing story about an F4U Corsair 👍
Great video TJ. Thank you for all your hard work. Keep Em' Flying.
Been flying rc planes for 27 years. FMS are awesome planes! Amazing video as always! Keep up the great work!
Found your channel today and subscribed to it today. Love them war birds 👍👍
You are great at this. I really enjoyed the story because the F4U Corsair is my favorite aircraft. I managed to get a flight in a T6 Texan and was allowed to handle the aircraft for much of the flight once airborne! There are thousands of amazing stories of survival and perseverance in world war II. I am sure you will not run out of stories! Thanks for this one!
As far as I know a FAA Hawker Sea Fury also shot down a MiG-15 in the Korean War.
Did y'all know that the term "give em the full 9 yards!" Gives reference to the corsairs 50 cal gun magazines? They were a full nine yards in length. Basically give them all you can give them! I love these types of videos 👍
The lives that were sacrificed, to mirror polish that Mig. They are the unsung heroes, in that video.
Rescued in eight minutes after ejecting! Wow now that’s impressive.
Great story
Glad you enjoyed it
You can say what you want about War Thunder as a game or their business practices - but it's a wonderful tool for documentaries about warbirds.
Love the Corsair! Best fighter of WW2, hands down.
Awesome historical video, as usual!
Thanks!
Please do a video on the USS TWIGGS. The ship history forgot. A member of my family died on the ship off Okinawa when it was sunk by a torpedo and a kamikaze
What an exciting true and heroic story. Congratulations on the excellent video TJ. Thank you very much
In 1998 I got to know Mr. Folmar as a patient. He was a real gentleman. He told me his story and it felt like I was there with him. His wife brought in a copy of Life magazine with Mr. Fulmar’s MiG tale. I was proud to know him.
The Martin P6M Seamaster is an interesting plane that never saw service, but might be something you might like. My father in law was a Navy pilot who flew a variety of seaplanes & was assigned to the Pentagon & I believe had something to do with the Seamaster. We have a model of the plane that came from him. The plane was designed to deliver a nuclear bomb, but was scrapped due to mechanical issues & in favor of the Polaris missile system.
IMHO, that Silver Star should have been upgraded to the DFC because that was truly some distinguished flying.
This Plane with those gorgeous bent wings just a beautiful plane all around not just looks ,but even in battle, Besides the P-38 my favorite plane.just 👍 Great
Hell yeah.
Hi TJ.. Will you bring Jesse Brown story and his Corsair during Korean War? Maybe it's a good idea for near future video especially with the realease of the movie Devotion dedicated to that story
I may or may not already be working on it 👀
@@TJ3 i may or may not unsubscribe 👀 lol
Beautiful, simply beautiful. And the big Corsair looks pretty neat, too.
Really great video! All of the expert testimony on tactics that an F4U would have to use against the Mig15 really added to the video. I’ll definitely check out the sponsor, they helped make a really awesome video!
Incredibly talented Corsair pilot and a newbie Mig pilot. You can see what the result was
Yeah Corsair pilot was a navy Captain equivalent to a Colonel in the Air Force. Very experienced
@@foxtrot312 No, Fulmar was a US Marine. An O-3. Like an Army Captain.
Outstanding video, my friend!
Much respect to the expertise and the courage of the pilot (Fulmer), and to the design team that assembled such an amazing piston driven fighter aircraft that was the F4U Corsair!
Thanks again for the video and have a great week. 🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸🦅🇺🇸
Simply adore the F4U Corsiar! i have two FMS 1700mm version
I love those planes. I got to see one fly at an airshow when I was a kid. Mostly WW1 and WW2 planes. It has been about 45 years ago but I still remember
corsair and the hellcat had the highest kill ratios in the pacific
Amazing story and thankyou for sharing it
Excellent video! The graphics are just incredible. Keep up the great work. See you in the next installment!
The best WW2 fighters could all turn inside Korea era jets. So if the MiG-15 got in turning fight (1 circle) with the F4U, the advantage goes to the Grumman a/c. Boom and zoom, going vertical, 2 circle, etc. would be the best strategy for the MiG.
The Corsair was designed and built by Chance Vought, not Grumman. But you're spot on with your tactical assessment of a lower speed, turning fight favoring the prop plane over the jet. Poor decision by the MiG pilots to get sucked into that scenario, although with 7 or 8 against 2 they finally overwhelmed the Marine pilots.
I'm reminded that a similar situation occured in WW2, where Allied pilots learned the hard way in the first years of combat against the Japanese Zero that a turning dogfight against that plane usually ended in disaster for its opponent. But there was a caveat: if you could keep your speed up above 250 mph, you could outmanuever a Zero because heavier stick forces made quick combat manuevers more difficult for the Japanese pilot at those speeds. But you had to resist the temptation to slow down to stay on his tail for a better chance at a kill, because he could quickly turn the tables on you if you didn't get him with your first shot. Like you said: boom and zoom...or boom and turn at over 250 mph.
@@michaeldavid6284 brain fart on my part.
The Corsair and the P51 Mustang 2 of the most beautiful planes
Great video. That pilot is a legend.
It’s not the plane… but the pilot.
It is the plane but the pilot is the brain.
How is this impossible? Get a dictionary. Several prop planes have shot down jets.
The word impossible is used due to the concept of a Prop shooting down a Jet has been perceived to be “impossible” due to the technological differences.
@@MatchingUser Impossible means impossible. Some ppl need a dictionary. Improbable maybe.
Great piece of history. I had no idea. What a badass. Serious BADASSERY.
Nice production and great looking flying model -thanks
Great video, well presented. One little thing to note: A bogie is an unidentified contact, a bandit is an enemy contact.
I read about this in a 'Military History Magazine' article back in the 1990s. I have been hoping someone would make a video about this dogfight and even asked for it on several occasions. Thank you, TJ3 History!
Just saw Devotion movie .... I've always liked these planes. I used to watch reruns of Black Sheep Squadron when I was a kid.
I heard this story before and it's super cool story of a brave pilot 🙂🙂👍
Good stuff ana a great looking Bird , JT. The P40 got company now. Lucky you to sit in a Mig , I grew up around them in the 60's where two or more of them were always Flying low & in pairs up and down full length of the Island.
What a riveting story!!!
I love these hopelessly lopsided chance air to air encounters where the underdog came out on top. And they constitute some of the best stories you’ll hear , like when an A-10 shot a helicopter out of the sky with its Avenger cannon, or when a couple of AE-1 Skyraiders bumped into some Migs and won that fight, and another great one was in the Falkland Islands, and British Navy Pilots were required to go toe-to-toe with Argentine Air force Pilots … this resulted in very unexpected engagements between the AV-8/B Harrier II, (a subsonic VTOL-capable ground-attack plane) and the Argentines had purchased a bunch of front-line French Dassault Super-Etendard aircraft. These were high altitude - Mach 2 class fighter- interceptors, if I remember correctly, and some really crazy video made on to the evening news, of those things chasing each other back and forth across the bay a 100 feet off the water, in the dark, cold, gray skies of the almost-Antarctic waters.
WOW, Great story and video !
Excellent narrative-- concise, detailed and accurate.
The Martin Mariner rescue was a convincing graphic sequence.
One small detail - no American destroyer I’m aware of had 8 5” guns.
Always love the Cosairs........
it is soo good that literally replicated the fight that makes much easier to follow.
Great warbird story, well done and great RC model of my favorite airplane, ever.
Awesome video, as always!
An excellent story as usual
I don't know how good it was, but it's the best LOOKING plane ever made.
Looks kind of ugly to me, I prefer the Spitfire
I didn´t know anything about this. Many thanks for such great content.
Very cool video and story!!!
Great as usual 😎👍Thanks
As an rc and dcs pilot, its cool that they gave you a sponsor.