@@mclucky2216 point we are discussing is water issue between MY and SG. MY is raising it. While SG appears to be evading the issue, what I call beating Bush around. Dr Mahathir is straight to the point. It must be addressed before it gets too far!
Came here after watching a video about him explaining the economic aftermath of COVID19. I am amazed by how eloquent and well mannered this minister is.
you need to realise he wrote and talk about this on the same day... if my teacher as me to hand up homework on the same day I be going crazy... this guy did his homework and delivered it perfectly
Defiant GTI Hi Genius , you mentioned that Singapore is too small to be a country. 1. Singapore is 721 km2 2. Qatar is 11,586 km2 3. Malaysia is 330,803 km2 Why is SG & Qatar so much richer than Malaysia? Its not the countries fault nor is it the countries size, its the babi people and their mindset of building a nation. And also i doubt you know Monaco & Vantican are some of the smallest countries in the world. Thank me for enlightening you if you wish.
Defiant GTI It is a fact that we cant supply ourselves with water. We try hard to drink our pee and we succeed. We call it an invention. We try whatever means to survive. Have your country try hard enough to bring EQUALITY to every RACE LANGUAGE AND RELIGION. Till today, you guys are not even trying. You failed to see your short comings, and keep harping over the size of nations. We have achieved tonnes of success since our independence. And all your pro-malay culture can only produce a keyboard warriors like you that harp over land size and lack of natural resource ? What kind of humour is in you?
@Alexandria School of Science Malaysia under BN/UMNO more than 60 years....full of clowns for more than 60 years....pasir salak, noh omar, ahmad maslan & many more... Open your blind eyes
Sabah Sarawak Terengganu and Kelantan is key state that producing oil for Mahathir Petronas hydrocarbon company, yet only 5% is paid to the State that possessed the oil especially Sabah and Sarawak and none to the Kelantan and Terengganu. 45% are on possession of this capitalist minister.
Malaysia it self already rich just that the malay government is taking what not belong to them they only care about their own pocket even if they get caught nothing happen gone case.
One thing is very clear Singapore became one of the Richest nation because if discipline ,hard work with no discrimination among races and most important point is they do not mix religion and politics in all their adminstration.There is no corruption in their adminstration.So it is rich.
Nobody Important Then you should see how those babi off the master tap of water inlet in Sungei Punngor Ringit every now and then. I couldnt even bath properly during CNY and that weather is hot. I would have slap those babi who doesnt consider Chinese village as their community. Simply babi....
Actually Malaysia is more rich in terms of natural resources. M knows very well why we are more “rich” . It’s thanks to him and how he chose to run his nation.
@@michaele4830 2020 we don't have any thing better than the year before 1985 because we have the old2 policy never change no HARAPAN AT ALL FOR ALL POOR CITIZENS
Life is not a zero sum game. Just because Singapore made enormous wealth, does not mean that they "stole" it from someone else. They created it. Nothing stops Malaysia from creating similar wealth. There is tremendous growth in global wealth every year. Not transfer, but growth. Make your own destiny. Do not blame others. Observe the non-aggression principle.
@Jairul Joe Then why did Malaysia consent to the agreement? The agreement is mutual and lawful. You cannot change the terms of the agreement after you had signed it.
@@zulrahman2476 Lets stick to the facts and not digress, I see some Singaporeans talking abt how SG provide jobs to malaysia and some Malaysians talking abt how Malaysia has better housing. This is digression at its finest. Heres the facts without any form of biasedness. This is all WAYANG at its best. When Mahathir was in power back then, he had the opportunity to ask for a review during the window, but he didnt. He knew damn well inflation is obviously a thing yet he didnt ask for a review. Now he wants to make up for his mistake by playing victim and blaming Singapore so that he doesnt come off as guilty. Did Mahathir forget that apart from treated water itself, more than $100 mil was invested in Johor Dam and pipelines project which benefitted Johoreans as well? Did Mahathir forget that during flood crisis, while malaysia send their Bomba to help, SG send the army along with PUB technicians to provide treated water to the victims by setting up pump stations? Did Mahathir forget the instances whereby certain sources of freshwater dried up and the agencies called SG for help to send excess treated water? At the end of the day, an agreement is an agreement. Whoever signed the agreement on Malaysia's part was to be blamed for not taking inflation into account along with Mahathir's error in assuming that isnt a need for a review back then.
Wasi whay nonsense. The agreement was inked initially between Sultan of Johor and British authirity in Singapore in 1926. Subsequently it was rwnewed in 1962. Tge scenario that time was that Singapore was about to joint Tanah Melayu to form Malaysia. There is a clause on price revision aftwr 25 years. SINGAPORE in Malaysia became a problem when Lee Kuan Yew purposely challenged Malay rights that was agreed upon independenxe of Tanah melayu. In the nutshell, Malay Rulers in 1957 would have agreed to grant citizenships to non malays in scale unrivalled on thia planet only if Malays were accorded special.position IN return to mind boggling citizenship to non malays. LEE KUAN YEW portrayed Malays as racist. True to Malay characyer of being merciful, Tunku decided Singapore must go. Other leaders on this planet would have simply thrown Lee Kuwn yew under detention . As for price of water sold, honestly are you thinking 3 cents per thousand gallon of water is reasonable today. Thank God, it is Malaysia thay supplies water to Singapore, not the other way around. And tge insult like Malaysia loves to bully Singapore does not make sense. If that is the intention, Tunku would simply lock Lee Kuan Yew the way Kaun Yew did to his political opponent.
Now this is what I like in Parliament. Facts and chronologically ordered. Now I understand the issue. In Malaysia parliament, it sounds like the ancient beruk saying eyy oiii. Need to wait awhile the new generation take over (those who is like Syed Saddiq). Malaysia could be a rich country, but the investment and the issues coupled with corruption. Need quite a cleansing before we move forward. Sad reality.
Country so small. I think less then 30 Parliment seats inside. We malaysian have diverse and huge landmass. No time to talk petty things *cough* Singapore. Cause nothing much to discuss pun. Joker.
@@syazkoay6603 What's the use of so much landmass when you have senile & brainless people that can revoke agreement/contract as they wish. Mana ada sistem. A very big cough for yr nonsensical remark.
In a simulation. 1990 water agreement. Malaysia sell raw water to singapore Rm0.50cent per 5gallon. In 2000 singapore sells treated water to johor at higher rate. How is that fair. Not looking to argue just a theory
@@unknownbaby1350 You yourself answered your own question. To make things simpler, let's just say Johor supply the untreated water free of charge. The cost of water treatment by SG is RM 2.40. SG then sells this treated water back to Johor at a rate of RM 0.50. That is a loss of RM 1.90 for every sale. Tell me who is the one being unfair now.
@@unknownbaby1350 Isnt that how businesses work? Money does not fall out of the sky, malaysia can always set up their own treatment plants but in reality they dont. You are taken on a ride by mahathir and you dont even know it
Watching the Dr Vivian Balakrishnan's reply and explanation again, i couldn't help but admire his clarity of thought and explanation without getting being too emotional like politicians. More importantly is his explanation of the philosophy underlying Singapore's governance, as well as its strict adherence to international treaties and obligations. That earns the trust of many governments and corporations which see Singapore as trustworthy to place their investment and to do business. Singaporeans are very proud to have such ministers in government.
@@albahabah1357 Malaysians and other foreigners come to Singapore because they know that if they have the talent and work hard and smart, they can succeed and prosper without worrying too much about their race, religion or quota. Singapore has a number of ministers who are from Malaysia. One thing though, do not get into the wrong side of politics.
I can only hope that the Singaporean electorate could continue to vote rationally, in the wider and longer-term interests of Singapore as a nation-state and as a society.
What a beautiful parliament, what a beautiful explanation. Very impressive. Singapore you have really built your nation! No shouting unlike the Malaysian Dewan Rakyat.
Actually in the past like 1960s up till 1990s the Opposition was more vocal and sometimes had better ideas than PAP - i had relatives who got to watch the uncensored versions back then. But PAP eventually managed to silence their opponents or convince them to join PAP . And as time went on "the culture" of speaking up and rebuttals in Parliment has changed. Nowadays most of the "bright minds" are already part of PAP - so not much debate (unlike other countries) since most of the members of parliment think alike. Good or bad? I think the lower classes in Singapore are more worried about "legalised corruption and legalised cronyism" but feel helpless to stop the trend.
I think this is like the 2nd or 3rd time I'm watching this and I'm still so impressed with how he has answered this "pointed" question. hahaha. As a nation, we are so blessed with leaders like that. And I don't mean just in terms of speech but in thinking and service to the nation. 10/10! :D
Im malaysian but what spore end said got its point..i think this matter should not be an issue or bring it up bcause the term and agreement is accept by both parties before this..and also.bcause johor just supplying raw water/untreated water to spore which is naturally free or low cost to let the spore do the expensive treatment process which is the cost and operation is 100% from sg..and also the treated water is selling back to johor with subsidised price..i think if the malaysia end review or increase the price, also the treated water will also be increased by double or triple..and juz going back the same or much expensive..just gain nothing from this dispute unless malaysia itself build its own water treatment in johor which cost is much more higher and time consuming
Deals Change, Nasi lemak used to cost RM1 back then. now its 5 or more. Times chance, Prices change, its called inflation. People who made deals decades ago dont always speak for the future, that was a deal for that a time, now a new deal is needed, simple as that. Of course SG doesnt want the deal to change, they have the most to gain? If someone is not happy with the deal, make a new one, why stick to it?
@@zeddtakashi671 Bro, why you compare your Nasi Lemak to a legal agreement. Deals change when they expire and get renewed la bro, where got in the middle of an ongoing deal you anyhow change. By your analogy, it would be Makcik say Nasi lemak RM1, you buy already she change her mind charge you RM5. Do you even know what is going on? 1961 water agreement expired in 2011, Singapore handed over all waterworks facilities invested and maintained by Singapore for free of charge. Have you ever heard the quote, "When you blame and criticize others, you are avoiding some truths about yourself." I hope that 1 year after you have made this comment, you have grown a little to understand more.
I, a Malaysian Malay salute you, Mr. Minister. I am proud of you. You are fortunate because you have no sultans, no rajas, no cronies, no thieves like Mr. and Mrs. Najib. I love your (late) Lee Kuan Yew.
Wan M Razali I think you can see a clearer picture. I like u not because of your praise for LKY. Cos you know the rational and basis behind. The truth to every issues.
The Malaysian government pays RM5,300 per year as rental for Sabah to the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. Isn't that more morally wrong? And they have not been paying rent since 2013?
John wei, Sabah is part of Malaysia now. Sulu Sultanate ceased to exist in 1915 when the then Sultan renounced his sovereignty through Carpenter Treaty. As such Sulu Sultanate has no right to claim Sabah. This is very clear during the most defining moment of Sabah history which was the change of atatis from being a British colony to that of a state within Malaysia. Nobody asked the consent from.Sulu Sultanate in 1962 simply because the kingdom has already ceased to exist at that time. On the contrary, the consents of Malay Rulers were essential durinh the journey to independence of Malaya in 1957. Simply for the reasons that the Highnesses in 1957 were sovereign recognised by the whole world. As for watwr supply to Singapore, one of the clause is rwvision of water price after 25 years. It was inked first by then Sultan of Johor in 1927. In 1962, Malaya signed the renewal treaty with the British( Sibgapore was still a colony). One of the clause says that the revision can be made after 25 years
@@shamshulanuar1097 thats not what he is asking. he said that if the singapore water deal is morally wrong,then paying the heirs of the sulu sultanate is morally wrong
@@evanlee5330 Malaysia stopped paying the amount after the Sulu intrusion in 2014. But before that, the amount was given as goodwill gesture only. The Sulu Sultanate ceased to exist once the last Sultan renounced his sovereignty in 1915
@Septimius Severus you have not been doing research a lot i think, by the time the 1962 water agreement expire in 2061, Singapore will estimated to be already self sustain in water already, like what Dr Vivian said, we invest in infrastructure ahead of time, we are already building more desalination plants, we COULD be self-sustain if there is a need, but currently the COST of making water from sea, is still > than buying raw water from Johore, so can you explain why will we WANT to be 100% self substain if there is a cheaper source for the time being, if in a real war, and the water supply is cut, of cos i think the production of sea->fresh water will be RAMP up to counter the drop. but at a higher price for your tap water at home. Singapore knows eventually when the 2061 expiry comes, Malaysia may jolly well not renew or raise the price, hence it is already making preparations ahead of time.
@Septimius Severus As Tse Hong Ling noted above, Singapore is well primed to become self sustaining in its water projects. Also, Indonesia's massive water pipe project to Singapore would be a huge consideration for Singapore if there ever was a fall out between Malaysia & Singapore.It's only not been considered anymore, because Malaysia had no imminent risk of denouncing the water treaty agreement.
Making Singapore poorer will not make Malaysia richer. Malaysia and Singapore had the same starting line. Yet, under two different leaders Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and Doctor Mahathir, Singapore progressed much faster. Malaysia has more resources, more land, more people, has oil, gold, tin, rubber, etc. Yet Singapore still progressed faster. What policies went wrong? Which of the policies worked? Those should be the questions. But instead Mahathir decided to be petty and allowed himself to be filled with hate. Mahathir is now trying to incite hate and sow discord between Johor and Singapore. If he is this small as a human being, I think he should step down. He has dismantled UMNO. He had done enough. I think it is high time for him let go and let Anwar take the helm.
you can't compare malaysia to singapore like apple to apple. ridiculous. even if you compare kuala lumpur only to singapore also not fair because at that time singapore has already establish as international city, business hub, international port and airport since british made as their main centre hub. even most companies was given to singapore such as malaysia singapore airlines and malaysia got to establish its domestic air flight ands start all over from scracth whereby singapore only have already establish airport no need for domestic route and just continued its international expansion. thats why you see malaysia a little behind not because malaysia slower progression. even the starting point is not the same, how can you compare its fairness in your view
@@gundam4596 Life is not a zero sum game. Just because Singapore made enormous wealth, does not mean that they "stole" it from someone else. They created it. Nothing stops Malaysia from creating similar wealth. There is tremendous growth in global wealth every year. Not transfer, but growth. Make your own destiny. Do not blame others. Observe the non-aggression principle.
@@gundam4596 I am in my fifties and I remembered differently. I remembered floods occuring frequently and I was farming. The currency between Singapore and Malaysia had the same value. Malaysia currency was interchangeable. We were not better than Malaysia. We had no hinterland and was small. We were taught No one owes me a living. That's what Mr. Lee told us. If your attitude is to inherit wealth then the inheritance was bigger for Malaysia. But inheritance aside, we have to ask ourselves fundamentally how we can do better. Your mindset has to change. Otherwise you will forever be blaming others for failure instead of improving yourself for success. Apply yourself.
@@oterenceo pls use logic bruh. singapore at the time is already a port and international hub. the people just need to continue to progress. and it is just a small island. if you were to manage an island and a big landmass country which is easier although the land is full of natural resources. people are scattered everywhere and you cant just take matter one place off the other furthermore the law of malaya about natural resources is handled by state administration except petroleum. to manage a small establish island is not that difficult compare to big country. almost every small nation without resources even without airport and port in this world has high GDP per capita shows why it is easy to manage small tiny island. use your brain bruh....
@@boromirinokripperino3928 where did i blaming sngapore bout its progress. i just highlighted about why malaysia seem slower to progress compare to singapore as the 1st comment suggest and i disagree. who said you stole??? you are so disgraceful and cant think what is fair and just. you just thinking about only whose right whose wrong just like a robot with no feeling. you just show what kind of people singaporean is.....
You and Singapore are morally right Doctor Vivian. Your explanation is very clear and precise and professionally explained to the August House and to the general lay audience as a whole. Truly Singapore is a blessed nation. Greetings from Miri, East Malaysia!
HELMY ABDULLAH You country needs appreciative and thinking human beings like you. I hope you will benefit in future when Malaysia develop into a more inclusive and racially equal country.
In 1962 , Malaysia was richer, with vast resources .... while Singapore was deemed " hopeless / sure cannot survive " Years passed, if Malaysia chose to remain stagnate, they must bear the consequences
@@gappai PH gorvt cannot moves malaysia to the next higher level. They are trying to sow discord betweens johorean and singaporean. Dont the PH party ever forgets that more than 400,000 johoreans rice bowls are in singapore.
As MY politics situation getting more & more uncertain & hostility risen, SG should escalate effort to tap on other resource supply and reduce SG exposure to MY economy.
I applaud Singapore's parliament in session, it 's usually conducted in an orderly manner with opposition MP asking important question concerning issue facing their country and the official usually provide answer to those queries in a very statesman liked manner. It is quite a different scenario in its neighboring country where the Parliament look more like a circus where clowns (MP) are gathered and acted out for media spot light rather than a solemn branch of government out to take care of the nation's affair.
Hon. Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, had clearly explained the agreements which are still in force. You need to consider the senile ex-PM who still keep saying the Malays are poor. What did he do when he was the PM. He only enriched his cronies and his sons and daughter to become billionaires.
Its actually quite hilarious that Dr Mahathir actually thought that riding the moral high horse was the perfect way to engage Singapore. It just reflects how one dimensional and low resolution Malaysian politicians are capable of, as it plays out in the international theatre, just shows in plain sight how completely incompetent and outrageous these bullies are. Malaysia would benefit in so many ways had they choose to seek a more reasonable working relationship with Singapore. History ties us together, they can continue on the animosity or work together to a better tomorrow.
@@yangerek78 This has nothing to do with kiasu. Talk is cheap. The water agreement is sanctity which Dr, M also agreed when asked. Enough said. Let's take this water agreement issue to international arbitration and see what is the result. Nobody is stopping Dr. M to do that right? Or it is up to the Sultan of Johor to decide? I think the Sultan of Johor has reasons to believe that the state of Johor also benefited with the current arrangement.
@@johnchua1087 in that case why not reviewe the water price give the price they want and move on. By proceeding to imternational arbitration what or how much exactly do we gain when obviously it is their wster at their country supplied to us
@@yangerek78 It is not free water to begin with. An agreement is an agreement. Moreover the agreement is sanctity (you should go check the meaning of sanctity). They have lost their chance to review the water pricing long ago and it is then Dr. M who said they did not need to review. Have you ever sign any agreement with any one or buy anything that requires you to sign an agreement? What is an Agreement to you? Say you sign an agreement to buy a 99 year condo with a developer, Then you pay 100 dollars for example, then 50 years later the developer say you are rich so I want to review the original agreed price to 1000 (figuratively)..you are ok with that?
@@johnchua1087 well if its not for free than i guess just oay more since no one can live without water no matter whatever agreement there is. Look how about we start by kicking out of kiasu and negative attitude first like die die want to win thingy and start be neighbourly and understanding in wherr they coming from
Just honor the agreement lah, why is Mahatir forever trying to threaten Singapore with this water issue? He got nothing new to say already is it?And since when the water agreement has to do with whether Singapore is rich or not?
At 93, that's an achievement. He can still remember its water agreement that helped to instill hatred. Others would have went home to be with Jesus. LOL
Minister for Foreign Affairs Dr Vivian Balakrishnan is intelligent very articulate in his ideas n speeches. The PAP government is always correct in choosing the right candidate for the job. Never feel disappointed for the foreign affairs minister performances. Highly respected for Dr Vivian Balakrishnan .
I worked at Kertih,which is rich of oil & gas,what is upset me most is the unbalanced economy in Malaysia states here in Terengganu our state is so far behind development compared to west Malaysia but our natural resource is plenty,why this happen because of Dr M he not give enough royalty to our state he just focus on west malaysia,I think Sabahan And Sarawakian also think this unfair Dear Singaporean please guide us...
LOL... As sarawakian we don't need guide from Singapore. Sarawak can manage our own problem. But we do mind accepting any positive and constructive opinion.
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, apart from personally choosing not to review the price of water in 1987 , had a further opportunity to revise the price. In a letter to then Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, Tun Dr Mahathir offered to sell water to Singapore at a "fair price" of 60 sen per 1,000 gallons, in return for concessions on other elements of an overall package. Responding to the offer in a letter dated April 23, 2001, Mr Lee said that if there was "give and take on both sides, an agreement is possible". It was in this spirit that Mr Lee visited Kuala Lumpur in September 2001. But while negotiations were in progress, the Malaysian government raised the asking price to RM3 per 1,000 gallons, 100 times the existing price of raw water. This demand made it difficult for common ground to be reached, and led to a stalemate in the negotiations. Rather than rummage through history and indulge in the politics of envy, Dr Mahathir should look into the future and see how the issue of water price can be resolved. Until then, Singapore will stand by the terms of the 1962 Water Agreement. Any breach of that agreement would, according to Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, call into question the Separation Agreement, which is the basis for Singapore's existence as an independent sovereign state.
There is no "morally" wrong or right when 2 parties enter a contract, there is only benefits and profits. Would a bank enter a contract to loan money base on moral grounds? Did anyone had to take any moral high grounds when u sign an employment contract with a company for a job? A comment that make no sense whatsoever. Hopefully Malaysians will not mislead by his comments to incite discontent between both countries.
Singapore's minister is awesome. Highly intelligence and know what they are doing. His speech is full of knowledge. really respect. Malaysia is far behind.
When a coconut drink seller signed a contract to buy coconut from a rich plantation owner for 100 years, but plantation owner’s son squandered his wealth away, and after 2 years, became poorer than the coconut drink seller... can he renegotiate the contract because now the coconut drink seller is richer than him?
Making Singapore poorer will not make Malaysia richer. That is true. But it will make Malaysia look better. The contrast between Singapore and Malaysia is a constant rebuke and humiliation to Mahathir. Why is Singapore, a small island with no natural resources performing so much better that Malaysia with its huge natural wealth including oil. When oil was over US$100, where did that money go to? Now Malaysia is impoverished while Singapore is still rich. This is an unbearable disgrace to Mahathir. Every night he bang his head against the wall in anguish. But being the arrogant man that he is, he could not admit the truth. So he searched for an excuse, it is because Singapore took their water. What does Mahathir know about morality? He backstabbed Anwar with false accusations and jailed him all because of his greed for power. He is an unscrupulous criminal who should be locked up in jail instead of being let loose to do more evil.
for 1k gallons of water and barely 1 ringit for that, that fact was just to support his statement, you must not use that supportive statement as the main issue here
That's Asian mentality, sort of. Lets say you rent a food stall for $ 5000 / month. You work very hard to improve your recipes, you open 18 h per day incl. weekends, you rip your arxe open doing promotions, and after 2 - 3 years your stall is famous and people Q for your great food. What happens next? The landlord will come and ask for $12000 / month. You certainly disagree, have to move out, new location is lesser good, you lose half of your customer basis.
Foreign politicians ought to think thrice before making comments against Singapore. I'd like to see if the Minister's comments are accurately reported in the Malaysian media.
@@yeoweehuathuat8926 your comments reflect your level of intellect. I am familiar with NS of both sides. One trains a boy to become a soldier while the other seems to be a girls scout camping trip that may allow you to return home if your mother is down with the flu.
Yeo Wee Huat Huat Some babi shuts down Ringit’s Sungei Punngor main inlet during CNY 2019. I have no water to even bath during that hot period. Our Chinese populated village every CNY and as and when water kena disturb, seems like you people love to play around with water tap. Im Not surprise at your comment as well.
Yeo Wee Huat Huat Do u know i did 72 KM route march with almost 20++ to 30++ KG of field pack ? It was a hell of a lifetime experience with my brothers. Can see smoke on my shoulder and arms leh, you know? Have you ever?
these is like someone sold me a house cheaply and then decade later my house appreciate and you want some refund. grim reaper is waiting for Mahathir; if he can destroy UMNO; singapore is his last breath to destroy his beside wanting to make his son the next PM
Maybe Mahathir does not know what legally binding contracts and agreements are for. Basically, it means you are legally obliged to respect what is stated and agreed upon signing the contract, until it expires. After that, you can renegotiate when the current agreement expires.
Of course the kar-Tun knows. He is just openly being smelly. With documented agreements between nations he can be smelly, I wonder what will happen to the verbal agreement between him and Anwar. Poor poor Anwar, always so close to being PM. Maybe in the next life.
"It is the worst deal in the history of trade deals, ever", sounds familiar right, jokes aside its the same government which could unilaterally cancel ongoing local and foreign development projects, while at the same time complain on short of goverment resources and foreign investment…
Muhammad Secret we are not as in gentlemanly as Singapore, we will still give them cheap water at a higher rate only. Beside, we are their only water source.
Embarrassed to see Malaysians behaving stupidly. A deal is a deal and to renegotiate is one thing but to accuse Singapore of being "morally wrong" is another. Anyone with a clear mind can tell this is just Dr. M being silly.
First time I'm seeing this video. I think this is what LKY meant by "how to differentiate ourselves from our neighbours in order to compete and survive, and also get along with them" I'm very impressed with Mr. Vivian Balakrishnan. I know this is late, but "Well done, Singapore." I hope our Malaysian ministers can follow the footsteps of Singapore.
Remember, he did mention that the price Singapore sells its water back to Malaysia, has already been "heavily subsidized", and this was based on the contract which both nations have agreed on a very long time ago, Singapore at that time was not as prosperous as it is today and knowing that they still agreed to the deal, do you know how much it costs to treat water? running an operation island wide not only that, but also to Johor? There are equipment that has to be maintained, workers to that needs their salary, just as Singapore grows, the standard of living grows too, what makes you think that all these do not need additional cost. There is only one thing Mahathir can do, that is to just void the contract and cut all water supply to Singapore, that of course would be killing of Singapore slowly but what would the whole world think of Malaysia? Yes, a cruel country, no matter how much Mahathir emphasis on how Singapore is "morally wrong" to sell water at a higher price but remember, it has already been subsidized and there is the contract to back Singapore, we did nothing wrong, not only that but remember our cost of living increased so you have to account for that too, sure Johor can very well survived on the water they have, i am sure they have some sort of water purification facility. Now back to the water, Mahathir can talk about the "morale" he emphasized but the position he put Singapore in is so called "threatening" us, he can choose to stop the flow of water into Singapore just like many of his citizens would want but what about the morale that he solely emphasis on? What will the whole world think of Malaysia? Singapore has many investors and countries which it has bilateral relations to help out us out, either that or we will die off, but again what will the whole world think of Malaysia, i'm sure most of the citizens will say that they don't care but wait a few years later and see what happens, investors will leave even countries would want to break ties.
Singapore government is like Israel. The water agreement is tied up with Malayan railway land. Singapore can do all kinds of things and it will for its own sake. Singapore did not eject from Malaysia! She was expelled bcos late LKY wanted to be the PM of Malaysia, fast! Singapore feels that she is “superior!” to all the rest of SEA.
Lets stick to the facts and not digress, I see some Singaporeans talking abt how SG provide jobs to malaysia and some Malaysians talking abt how Malaysia has better housing. This is digression at its finest. Heres the facts without any form of biasedness. Stop playing the "water is sold at a ridiculous price" "sg should be grateful" card when those arent the underlying reasons for SG's refusal. An agreement is an agreement, just because a business u invested in is doing well beyond ur expectations, it doesnt give u the right or privilege to demand for a higher equity? This is all WAYANG at its best. When Mahathir was in power back then, he had the opportunity to ask for a review during the window, but he didnt. He knew damn well inflation is obviously a thing yet he didnt ask for a review. Now he wants to make up for his mistake by playing victim and blaming Singapore so that he doesnt come off as guilty. Did Mahathir forget that apart from treated water itself, more than $100 mil was invested in Johor Dam and pipelines project which benefitted Johoreans as well? Did Mahathir forget that during flood crisis, while malaysia send their Bomba to help, SG send the army along with PUB technicians to provide treated water to the victims by setting up pump stations? Did Mahathir forget the instances whereby certain sources of freshwater dried up and the agencies called SG for help to send excess treated water? At the end of the day, an agreement is an agreement. Whoever signed the agreement on Malaysia's part was to be blamed for not taking inflation into account along with Mahathir's error in assuming that isnt a need for a review back then.
this is open to civilised discussion, no form of political hooliganism will be entertained. stick to the issue, dont bring up non water related points.
@@860623496517 I love the CPF and I actually don't mind Ministers getting high pay and not doing shit like 1MDB :) They are people of high calibre and it's not that rare to see professionals earning that pay in Singapore.
With all due respect Sir Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, thanx and congratulations Sir for sharing this video with us all. Indeed. Dated this 2 October 2022.. 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬👌👌👍👍🙏🙏
LOL its repeat telecast. Same answer all these years. Subject matter being borrowed from yester-years. Nothing new, just repeat and repeat, like a broken record. Not like some new thoughts being raised to counter attack, or even worst, if there is any new idea to attack the sick o man, it still needs approval. Again, as I said, its just repeat and repeat, so its just playing time. At 93, or is it 94 now, time is running out. LOL
Hiroshi Yamashita A chinese saying goes, the greatest war was fought when you dont even have to shot an arrow at all. If you watch and listen to this video not for the sake of just listening, you would capture a core statement which is legal binding. U need me to tell you which of it as well? Figure it out genius ...
SG prides itself for adhering to the rule of law. This case can only be settled in the world court. Vivian bala, please approach the world court. Mahathir is confident they will win if go to the world court. So, you should walk the talk, base on the rule of law. But the court will not be in Singapore.
A contract written in black and white, willingly signed by both parties, and with considerable investment decisions made midway on the basis of the contract by SINGAPORE. If Singapore really does go to the world court, Malaysia is going to lose hahaha. The only argument they got going is that "Singapore is rich, and it is morally wrong to be paying so little for water". Cute.
A question cross on my mind. As a Singaporean should we fight Malaysia if the latter refuse to honour the obligation of water supply agreement between the two countries?
Good foreign diplomacy is an effective way and will always remain to be the most preferred choice of approach. It is never Malaysia's intent to stop the sale of water too. They know clearly they stand to gain and sometimes they are simply using this as a convenient distraction from other issues.
for the many reasons which have led to Singapore's success are the same reasons why Msia has not progressed since the separation in 1960s (i.e. issues on corruption, good governance, right people for the right jobs, meritocracy, and the list goes on..)
You would probably need to explain why would multinational companies invest in Singapore in making use of Singapore as a financial services hub of SEA instead of Msia? The answer honestly you would know best. Evidently so, this answer is the very reason why a number of Msians are coming to Singapore to ply their trade and for many Msians who study overseas (e.g. UK, US, Australia), would place those countries as the first choice of destination to work. Just FYI, whatever Dr M is doing has to a certain extent, a knock-on impact on the Msians in Singapore..
@Jairul Joe First of, There is no wrong-doing on SG's part with regards to the water, we are simply abiding by the agreement. It was signed in the 60s for a considerable time by BOTH PARTIES, complaining about the price now, half a century later reflects badly on the then Malaysia negotiators for their failure to price in the economic growth/inflation we see now. Secondly, You claim that we are not ethically managing it right? Treating water and selling it back to Malaysia at a higher price is always brought up. But pple conveniently overlook the party that pays for the infrastructure needed for the treatment. It has totalled by some reports over a billion dollars, does Msia cover that or subsidise it? If not do you think you are getting the treated water back at the our purchase price? Come on man, elementary stuff... Third, Why are your rebukes focused on bribery and corruption? Digressing from the topic completely and conspicuously avoiding the point @ZZ L brought up on how SG's reasons for success is incidentally MSIA's reasons for stagnation. Maybe its time, to confront the issue at hand? MSIA's leaders are just not as competent as SG's;how else can a tiny red dot, devoid of resources totally outplay, outwit their contemporaries across the border?
@Jairul Joe The problem is MSIA's incompetence and their supporters' are too myopic to acknowledge it. RM 0.5 obviously does not equate to SGD 0.5, funny how you should point this out; you do realise that a currency's strength is indicative of their countries's economy right? Truth be told; if MSIA has the capabilities to make the treatment themselves, go ahead.. by all means, at the very least it spares us the yearly episode of MSIAN's crying foul. But i highly doubt yall could, else yall would have done it already... there's a word that sums this all well : INCOMPETENCE. Look it up CHUMP
Mr Joe, I dont think you know the or even understand the clear facts. What I am seeing here is a supporter that is crying foul over the failings of his government, particularly, his current PM (for his historical failings). It was your government who signed the agreement - nobody forced your hand to do so. It was Dr M himself who failed to review the agreement when he had the chance to do so. If there is any culpability on why the price is whatever you have mentioned, you should know who to lay the blame onto.
@Jairul Joe The moral issue that Dr M raised is completely irrelevant to the water issue. Moral is not determine by price, it is determine by the integrity and character of a person. Following the terms of the contract is not immoral, breaking one's promise or commitment in a contract is. If the Malaysian government go back on its words, that is immoral.
Backing Singapore on this one Go honor the deal and the agreement malaysia This agreement came to existent because you malaysia lot kicked singapore out from the federation out of selfish fear and jealousy that a minority such as lky might rule and take over your whole country Singapore even had to ask UN for help to gain these deals as a compensation for kicking them out in the cold and to help kick start and alleviate the burden of self governing I dont understand why the malaysian people still vote for him...this old man needs to retire already
This old man only knows how to skin cats but does not know how to bit the bullet. There are a lot of facts stated and given which any reasonable person could understand the reasons why the contract should be respected and fair. We should not waste time dealing with the liar who has a track record of flip flopping even to his own people. All he can say in his argument is the 3 cents. There are 'simple' people who believe him blindly also. He should spend more time managing his country politics than pick a quarrel with a quiet neighbour.
Lols u don't need to understand also worry about ur politic. Our polictic is ours and who we vote is our business in Malaysia. Ur own country now shaking everything went up still wanna talk cock? At least we got the guts to kick out bn. How about u all still voting for pap? Lols
@@shamshulanuar1097 I agree that it's disgraceful for our Ministers to walk with their heads high when the elderly are suffering. However, I was merely referencing the comments by Dr M. I must add that In terms of Education and Defence, Singapore is surely ahead but in terms of Housing and Medical, Singapore lacks behind Malaysia. Singapore may not have a proper understanding of the term SUBSIDISED.
@@user-ov6hs1go4k actually the issue is the mind boggling pricing of 3 cents oer thousand gallon of untreated water sold to Singapore. Whether Singaporeans live on gold plated house or have billion in CPF is immaterial.
@@shamshulanuar1097 an agreement is in place and both sides ought to honour the agreement. It shows that the Singapore leaders who were involved in signing the original agreement were far sighted and highly intelligent. If Singapore voluntarily pays Malaysia more than what was agreed, it's citizens will not be pleased and may fire the government of the day via the ballot box. Singapore also voluntarily spent billions of ringgit to improve the dam which sits on Malaysian soil. Dr M was not complaining then.
@@user-ov6hs1go4k hmnnn.let me make things simpler for you. There is a clause for price revision. And do tell me is there anything that you can buy in this era for 3 cents?
Malaysia must not worry when raw water comes from rain water and Allah always gives you back your raw water in the form of floods and landslide. It cost Malaysia no money or effort to treat your raw water and you get subsidise rate for treated water because Singapore is very diligent and will sell you treated water at a subsidise rate because you cannot afford to pay for water treatment.
As a Johor native many of us approve the deal, we've been relying on Singapore to supply us with treated water for awhile now. The trade is mutually beneficial and sometimes even one-sided favouring Johor instead of Singapore due to our demands (Johoreans) for treated water especially during droughts. Please understand that the people of Johor do not share values or policies with the federalist.
Malaysia does not respect the 1962 Agreement and Malaysia has lost the right to revise the raw water price after not doing so in 1987. Malaysia has always respected and never violated the terms of the 1962 Agreement. The Government of Malaysia merely states that it has the right to revise the raw water price sold to Singapore, after 25 years of the 1962 Agreement entered into force. Malaysia's right is not disputable. Clause 14 The agreement clearly provides that it may be reviewed today, and not only in 1987, since the clause states "... shall be subject to review after the expiry of 25 years from the date of these presents ... ". The "after" statement in this clause means "after" instead of "current".
@thin red line goodies ??... Malaysia is the one giving goodies, not Singapore. 3 cent per 1000 galon is almost giving Singapore free water. PS sungai kim kim polution is because human greed not God sign. If there is an earthquake or any natural disaster then you can say its God's sign.
@thin red line kindly list up what goodies are you refering to ?... I cant think of any other than 50c water that Singapore SOLD back to Malaysia using 0.03c water from Malaysia.
@thin red line LoL this idiot doesnt know what inflation means. Price back then for 1960s okay la, want to compare to now? You go bring 1 SG Dollar to kedai makan, see what you can get now and back then. Whats the point of the internet if you cant even use basic common sense? WHy stick to an agreement that doesnt benefit malaysia anymore? Just because it was written decades ago? LoL
At that time of Separations, Malaysia Govt thought Singapore cannot survived without any resources. Also they thought the water they got was free from sky and selling to SG for money make economical sense. Afterall the impure water will be treated by SG and sell back to Malaysia for also a few cents. Malaysia don't have to come out any capital. Get a few cents from a rich country is inmoral ? SG was poorer than MY. Formerly at time of Separation SG Dollars was at $1 - 80 MY cts. Due to Corruption and incompetent officials, Malaysia with vast resources the money went to corrupted pockets. Since Malaysia set a rule NEP that all big company need a Bumi of 30% shares. His son became the richest by sitting as board of Director of many companies . Just chop and sign.
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So Mahathir now realizes that Singapore is rich country.
No, mahathir realise, singapore was israel lapdog
This is the most polite parliament meeting I've ever seen....
Zul Rahman
Hopefully u can do something to a “Yes Man” assembly. Gonna see your poster during the coming GE
All have been brain washed
@thin red line do that... LKY will walk out of his grave!!
@@mclucky2216 point we are discussing is water issue between MY and SG. MY is raising it. While SG appears to be evading the issue, what I call beating Bush around. Dr Mahathir is straight to the point. It must be addressed before it gets too far!
@@tyjay6885 it's not brainwashed. We are have been educated to be intellectuals with good moral upbringing.
Came here after watching a video about him explaining the economic aftermath of COVID19. I am amazed by how eloquent and well mannered this minister is.
Siti Naquiah Mohd Hanapi you are not the only one feeling this way. I’m amazed
This minister is rubbish. Keep blowing budget repeatedly
Stupid hanapi
Cool speaker 👍Mr Balakrishnan.
@@jamilm4668 you mean Mahathir?? 😅😊
Hon. Vivian Balakrishnan is a good debater, convincing speaker with calm composure, well mannered tone.
@@zulrahman2476 mahathir is a fork tongued babi
you need to realise he wrote and talk about this on the same day... if my teacher as me to hand up homework on the same day I be going crazy... this guy did his homework and delivered it perfectly
Zul Rahman
Debate me then. Can you?
Seems like you can speak and think better than Vivian.
Good in comparison with? He was making a MONOLOGUE. There is no direct debate with Malaysia.
Zul Rahman
Dewan Rakyat ! Its a place of Excitement and Adventures. Not for the faint hearted.
Im a Msian but feel respect of SG country the way they lead their country and their peoples. Im proud of your beautiful country
Thank u
@thin red line ... Damn..... Facts!
BeRambus sana than..
Defiant GTI
Hi Genius , you mentioned that Singapore is too small to be a country.
1. Singapore is 721 km2
2. Qatar is 11,586 km2
3. Malaysia is 330,803 km2
Why is SG & Qatar so much richer than Malaysia? Its not the countries fault nor is it the countries size, its the babi people and their mindset of building a nation.
And also i doubt you know Monaco & Vantican are some of the smallest countries in the world.
Thank me for enlightening you if you wish.
Defiant GTI
It is a fact that we cant supply ourselves with water. We try hard to drink our pee and we succeed. We call it an invention.
We try whatever means to survive. Have your country try hard enough to bring EQUALITY to every RACE LANGUAGE AND RELIGION. Till today, you guys are not even trying.
You failed to see your short comings, and keep harping over the size of nations. We have achieved tonnes of success since our independence. And all your pro-malay culture can only produce a keyboard warriors like you that harp over land size and lack of natural resource ?
What kind of humour is in you?
I’m Malaysian but this debate is awesome
Malaysia MP should learn how to become MORE lawmakers people
but2star
LOL seems like everybody knows about that Farhat ... so funny
They wnt thts why Mly label, BODOH SOMBONG
That’s plainly impossible. Quality of lawmakers are vastly different.
@Alexandria School of Science Malaysia under BN/UMNO more than 60 years....full of clowns for more than 60 years....pasir salak, noh omar, ahmad maslan & many more...
Open your blind eyes
Never mind. Malaysia punya Lawak Parlimen very entertaining.
Minister VBalakrishnan is very eloquent . First class FM. He is an asset to SG.
He surely is an asset to his beautiful country
Mahathir himself treated Malaysia own states like a bully. Granted only 5% oil royalty to Sabah,Sarawak and Terengganu.
M A L A Y S I A BOLEH3
Sabah Sarawak Terengganu and Kelantan is key state that producing oil for Mahathir Petronas hydrocarbon company, yet only 5% is paid to the State that possessed the oil especially Sabah and Sarawak and none to the Kelantan and Terengganu. 45% are on possession of this capitalist minister.
@@Mozely374don't forget that AKrishan is the one who found petroleum in Malaysia.
Malaysia will be 1 of the rich country in this world IF we had a government that without corruption...
We all know the Msian gov is not corrupted because they can make flying cars.
Too bad Malaysia have Mahathir
@@jinweiyo and we have 9% gst
Malaysia it self already rich just that the malay government is taking what not belong to them they only care about their own pocket even if they get caught nothing happen gone case.
@@yangerek78 9% gst are for the seniors citizens like myself depends on the govrt hand out.
One thing is very clear Singapore became one of the Richest nation because if discipline ,hard work with no discrimination among races and most important point is they do not mix religion and politics in all their adminstration.There is no corruption in their adminstration.So it is rich.
No discrimination? Didnt u see how the Malays got threated there(Singapore)?
Nobody Important
Then you should see how those babi off the master tap of water inlet in Sungei Punngor Ringit every now and then.
I couldnt even bath properly during CNY and that weather is hot. I would have slap those babi who doesnt consider Chinese village as their community. Simply babi....
Singapore has chased away Malay out to Malaysia. . ..
Syed Malek
Empty bottles.
You became one of the riches because US and Israel needs to have a toilet to squat on to control the Melacca Straits.
Actually Malaysia is more rich in terms of natural resources. M knows very well why we are more “rich” . It’s thanks to him and how he chose to run his nation.
2020 hahaha
I am glad he is left out in the cold.
@@michaele4830 2020 we don't have any thing better than the year before 1985 because we have the old2 policy never change no HARAPAN AT ALL FOR ALL POOR CITIZENS
This comment really aged like milk, like Mahathir. Smelly and rotten.
I'm Malaysian and i'm really impressed...Properly Educated and well civilised Minister and citizen...Respect and salute to you Sir🙏💖
Ikr, our MPs would be name calling each other and talking abt their perut buncit instead. So annoying!
I'm Singaporean, thank to you for being well civilised Malaysian❤
Chinese Singapork citizen no 1 racist towards malay and indian
@@panzermora902 and you? MaLayu No 1 racist towards Chinese and Indian.
@@nomiriko my 1 son n 2 daughters are Singaporeans now i'm proud of having them m a l a y s i a boleh
Life is not a zero sum game. Just because Singapore made enormous wealth, does not mean that they "stole" it from someone else. They created it. Nothing stops Malaysia from creating similar wealth. There is tremendous growth in global wealth every year. Not transfer, but growth. Make your own destiny. Do not blame others. Observe the non-aggression principle.
@Jairul Joe Then why did Malaysia consent to the agreement? The agreement is mutual and lawful. You cannot change the terms of the agreement after you had signed it.
@Jairul Joe If this deal was so disadvantageous to Malaysia, why did it agree to it? A voluntary agreement between two parties is always moral.
Funny.
@@zulrahman2476 Lets stick to the facts and not digress, I see some Singaporeans talking abt how SG provide jobs to malaysia and some Malaysians talking abt how Malaysia has better housing. This is digression at its finest. Heres the facts without any form of biasedness. This is all WAYANG at its best. When Mahathir was in power back then, he had the opportunity to ask for a review during the window, but he didnt. He knew damn well inflation is obviously a thing yet he didnt ask for a review. Now he wants to make up for his mistake by playing victim and blaming Singapore so that he doesnt come off as guilty. Did Mahathir forget that apart from treated water itself, more than $100 mil was invested in Johor Dam and pipelines project which benefitted Johoreans as well? Did Mahathir forget that during flood crisis, while malaysia send their Bomba to help, SG send the army along with PUB technicians to provide treated water to the victims by setting up pump stations? Did Mahathir forget the instances whereby certain sources of freshwater dried up and the agencies called SG for help to send excess treated water? At the end of the day, an agreement is an agreement. Whoever signed the agreement on Malaysia's part was to be blamed for not taking inflation into account along with Mahathir's error in assuming that isnt a need for a review back then.
Zul Rahman
We are lucky to have u uttering rubbish so we know whats rubbish.
Malaysia did not expect the isolated island to flourish and hence they wanted to agree to any contract to get rid of Singapore. 😆😆
Alamak perasan nya..
Bro how much your money can buy there LoL , even if u have a couple thousand dollars u can only get a shitty hdb house youckssss 😁😁😁
@@AzimSobri when you ask singaporean to shift to malaysia because of cheat housing, they were answer you with a "f,,, you" why?
Wasi whay nonsense. The agreement was inked initially between Sultan of Johor and British authirity in Singapore in 1926.
Subsequently it was rwnewed in 1962. Tge scenario that time was that Singapore was about to joint Tanah Melayu to form Malaysia.
There is a clause on price revision aftwr 25 years.
SINGAPORE in Malaysia became a problem when Lee Kuan Yew purposely challenged Malay rights that was agreed upon independenxe of Tanah melayu.
In the nutshell, Malay Rulers in 1957 would have agreed to grant citizenships to non malays in scale unrivalled on thia planet only if Malays were accorded special.position IN return to mind boggling citizenship to non malays.
LEE KUAN YEW portrayed Malays as racist. True to Malay characyer of being merciful, Tunku decided Singapore must go.
Other leaders on this planet would have simply thrown Lee Kuwn yew under detention .
As for price of water sold, honestly are you thinking 3 cents per thousand gallon of water is reasonable today.
Thank God, it is Malaysia thay supplies water to Singapore, not the other way around.
And tge insult like Malaysia loves to bully Singapore does not make sense. If that is the intention, Tunku would simply lock Lee Kuan Yew the way Kaun Yew did to his political opponent.
They expected Singapore to come back to the federation crawling and begging. but that didnt happen.😎
Now this is what I like in Parliament. Facts and chronologically ordered. Now I understand the issue. In Malaysia parliament, it sounds like the ancient beruk saying eyy oiii. Need to wait awhile the new generation take over (those who is like Syed Saddiq).
Malaysia could be a rich country, but the investment and the issues coupled with corruption. Need quite a cleansing before we move forward. Sad reality.
Never ur dreaming will come true
I love how Singapore parliament is this calm, compared to the neighboring parliament. **cough** Malaysia, **cough** Indonesia
Country so small. I think less then 30 Parliment seats inside. We malaysian have diverse and huge landmass. No time to talk petty things *cough* Singapore. Cause nothing much to discuss pun. Joker.
@@syazkoay6603 What's the use of so much landmass when you have senile & brainless people that can revoke agreement/contract as they wish. Mana ada sistem. A very big cough for yr nonsensical remark.
next thing you know everybody wants to renegotiate contracts because the other party is so much richer than them
Lumi Nousv
Please go to your boss and negotiate a pay package because he earn more than you.
Ofcourse
In a simulation. 1990 water agreement. Malaysia sell raw water to singapore Rm0.50cent per 5gallon. In 2000 singapore sells treated water to johor at higher rate. How is that fair. Not looking to argue just a theory
@@unknownbaby1350 You yourself answered your own question. To make things simpler, let's just say Johor supply the untreated water free of charge. The cost of water treatment by SG is RM 2.40. SG then sells this treated water back to Johor at a rate of RM 0.50. That is a loss of RM 1.90 for every sale. Tell me who is the one being unfair now.
@@unknownbaby1350 Isnt that how businesses work? Money does not fall out of the sky, malaysia can always set up their own treatment plants but in reality they dont. You are taken on a ride by mahathir and you dont even know it
Watching the Dr Vivian Balakrishnan's reply and explanation again, i couldn't help but admire his clarity of thought and explanation without getting being too emotional like politicians. More importantly is his explanation of the philosophy underlying Singapore's governance, as well as its strict adherence to international treaties and obligations. That earns the trust of many governments and corporations which see Singapore as trustworthy to place their investment and to do business. Singaporeans are very proud to have such ministers in government.
He was a champ debater in his junior college & university days. All the ministers are very well educated unlike those goons across the causeway.
That is why Malaysians went to SINGAPORE BECOME SINGAPOREANS
@@albahabah1357 Malaysians and other foreigners come to Singapore because they know that if they have the talent and work hard and smart, they can succeed and prosper without worrying too much about their race, religion or quota. Singapore has a number of ministers who are from Malaysia. One thing though, do not get into the wrong side of politics.
I can only hope that the Singaporean electorate could continue to vote rationally, in the wider and longer-term interests of Singapore as a nation-state and as a society.
Lies again? Wedding Divorce
awesome speech and a substancial clarification by one respectful palimentarian..we dont hve it here in msia...like this guy..
Only in SINGAPORE SINGAPORE SINGAPORE BOLEH
With his last breath this old man wants to find fault with our Singapore. I earnestly wish that he retires soon and stop making trouble. Good ridden.
That was a really good speech. Factual and respectful
What a beautiful parliament, what a beautiful explanation. Very impressive. Singapore you have really built your nation! No shouting unlike the Malaysian Dewan Rakyat.
I don’t know what he’s talking about but if he told me the world was flat, I would believe him
Great Foreign minister, Dr.Vivian Balakrishnsn. Clear, factual. Pointed. HARD TRUTHS CANNOT LIE. EXPOSURE of where Truth lies.
Dr. Vivian Balakrishnan speaks clearly , factually and convincingly. I love the way he puts across his points! I rate his speech First class!
Is this Singapore’s parliament? Must be the most civilised parliament in the world
Singapore's Dewan Negara
nah m8, they go hard against themselves..
darkstoneft
Generally, Malaysia’s parliament is not as bad as taiwan’s. I choose not to mock u.
:)
Actually in the past like 1960s up till 1990s the Opposition was more vocal and sometimes had better ideas than PAP - i had relatives who got to watch the uncensored versions back then. But PAP eventually managed to silence their opponents or convince them to join PAP . And as time went on "the culture" of speaking up and rebuttals in Parliment has changed. Nowadays most of the "bright minds" are already part of PAP - so not much debate (unlike other countries) since most of the members of parliment think alike. Good or bad? I think the lower classes in Singapore are more worried about "legalised corruption and legalised cronyism" but feel helpless to stop the trend.
Nur Layla
You statement does flash back memories.
I think this is like the 2nd or 3rd time I'm watching this and I'm still so impressed with how he has answered this "pointed" question. hahaha. As a nation, we are so blessed with leaders like that. And I don't mean just in terms of speech but in thinking and service to the nation. 10/10! :D
Continue to vote rationally loh!
the voting age should be raised and stupid people scoring less than 70% on math shouldnt be allowed to vote.
Im malaysian but what spore end said got its point..i think this matter should not be an issue or bring it up bcause the term and agreement is accept by both parties before this..and also.bcause johor just supplying raw water/untreated water to spore which is naturally free or low cost to let the spore do the expensive treatment process which is the cost and operation is 100% from sg..and also the treated water is selling back to johor with subsidised price..i think if the malaysia end review or increase the price, also the treated water will also be increased by double or triple..and juz going back the same or much expensive..just gain nothing from this dispute unless malaysia itself build its own water treatment in johor which cost is much more higher and time consuming
Deals Change, Nasi lemak used to cost RM1 back then. now its 5 or more. Times chance, Prices change, its called inflation. People who made deals decades ago dont always speak for the future, that was a deal for that a time, now a new deal is needed, simple as that. Of course SG doesnt want the deal to change, they have the most to gain? If someone is not happy with the deal, make a new one, why stick to it?
@@zeddtakashi671 Bro, why you compare your Nasi Lemak to a legal agreement. Deals change when they expire and get renewed la bro, where got in the middle of an ongoing deal you anyhow change. By your analogy, it would be Makcik say Nasi lemak RM1, you buy already she change her mind charge you RM5. Do you even know what is going on? 1961 water agreement expired in 2011, Singapore handed over all waterworks facilities invested and maintained by Singapore for free of charge. Have you ever heard the quote, "When you blame and criticize others, you are avoiding some truths about yourself." I hope that 1 year after you have made this comment, you have grown a little to understand more.
Malaysia build waterwork...sells treatment water to Singapore......new aggrement....its win win situation
I am proud of our Singapore’s PAP speakers, eloquent with facts n figures
I, a Malaysian Malay salute you, Mr. Minister. I am proud of you. You are fortunate because you have no sultans, no rajas, no cronies, no thieves like Mr. and Mrs. Najib. I love your (late) Lee Kuan Yew.
Wan M Razali
I think you can see a clearer picture.
I like u not because of your praise for LKY.
Cos you know the rational and basis behind.
The truth to every issues.
The Malaysian government pays RM5,300 per year as rental for Sabah to the heirs of the Sulu Sultanate. Isn't that more morally wrong? And they have not been paying rent since 2013?
John wei,
Sabah is part of Malaysia now. Sulu Sultanate ceased to exist in 1915 when the then Sultan renounced his sovereignty through Carpenter Treaty.
As such Sulu Sultanate has no right to claim Sabah.
This is very clear during the most defining moment of Sabah history which was the change of atatis from being a British colony to that of a state within Malaysia.
Nobody asked the consent from.Sulu Sultanate in 1962 simply because the kingdom has already ceased to exist at that time.
On the contrary, the consents of Malay Rulers were essential durinh the journey to independence of Malaya in 1957. Simply for the reasons that the Highnesses in 1957 were sovereign recognised by the whole world.
As for watwr supply to Singapore, one of the clause is rwvision of water price after 25 years. It was inked first by then Sultan of Johor in 1927.
In 1962, Malaya signed the renewal treaty with the British( Sibgapore was still a colony).
One of the clause says that the revision can be made after 25 years
@@shamshulanuar1097 thats not what he is asking. he said that if the singapore water deal is morally wrong,then paying the heirs of the sulu sultanate is morally wrong
@@evanlee5330 Malaysia stopped paying the amount after the Sulu intrusion in 2014.
But before that, the amount was given as goodwill gesture only.
The Sulu Sultanate ceased to exist once the last Sultan renounced his sovereignty in 1915
@@evanlee5330 why malaysia must pay to sultan sulu...
Malaysia and Singapore should resolve the issue in the international court to solve this once and for all.
Yea and under the acts of an AGREEMENT, Mahathir has no case at all and spend more money on court fees ? How stupid
Singapore should deal with honour deal.win win situation are should welcome to this deal
@Septimius Severus you have not been doing research a lot i think, by the time the 1962 water agreement expire in 2061, Singapore will estimated to be already self sustain in water already, like what Dr Vivian said, we invest in infrastructure ahead of time, we are already building more desalination plants, we COULD be self-sustain if there is a need, but currently the COST of making water from sea, is still > than buying raw water from Johore, so can you explain why will we WANT to be 100% self substain if there is a cheaper source for the time being, if in a real war, and the water supply is cut, of cos i think the production of sea->fresh water will be RAMP up to counter the drop.
but at a higher price for your tap water at home. Singapore knows eventually when the 2061 expiry comes, Malaysia may jolly well not renew or raise the price, hence it is already making preparations ahead of time.
@Septimius Severus As Tse Hong Ling noted above, Singapore is well primed to become self sustaining in its water projects.
Also, Indonesia's massive water pipe project to Singapore would be a huge consideration for Singapore if there ever was a fall out between Malaysia & Singapore.It's only not been considered anymore, because Malaysia had no imminent risk of denouncing the water treaty agreement.
No once and for all, if sb need some attention to show his presence.
Singapore parliment is an example for all the developing countries to follow.no disturb,no hard words,respectfull and inteligent speaking.
Making Singapore poorer will not make Malaysia richer. Malaysia and Singapore had the same starting line. Yet, under two different leaders Mr. Lee Kuan Yew and Doctor Mahathir, Singapore progressed much faster. Malaysia has more resources, more land, more people, has oil, gold, tin, rubber, etc. Yet Singapore still progressed faster. What policies went wrong? Which of the policies worked? Those should be the questions. But instead Mahathir decided to be petty and allowed himself to be filled with hate. Mahathir is now trying to incite hate and sow discord between Johor and Singapore. If he is this small as a human being, I think he should step down. He has dismantled UMNO. He had done enough. I think it is high time for him let go and let Anwar take the helm.
you can't compare malaysia to singapore like apple to apple. ridiculous. even if you compare kuala lumpur only to singapore also not fair because at that time singapore has already establish as international city, business hub, international port and airport since british made as their main centre hub. even most companies was given to singapore such as malaysia singapore airlines and malaysia got to establish its domestic air flight ands start all over from scracth whereby singapore only have already establish airport no need for domestic route and just continued its international expansion. thats why you see malaysia a little behind not because malaysia slower progression. even the starting point is not the same, how can you compare its fairness in your view
@@gundam4596 Life is not a zero sum game. Just because Singapore made enormous wealth, does not mean that they "stole" it from someone else. They created it. Nothing stops Malaysia from creating similar wealth. There is tremendous growth in global wealth every year. Not transfer, but growth. Make your own destiny. Do not blame others. Observe the non-aggression principle.
@@gundam4596 I am in my fifties and I remembered differently. I remembered floods occuring frequently and I was farming. The currency between Singapore and Malaysia had the same value. Malaysia currency was interchangeable. We were not better than Malaysia. We had no hinterland and was small. We were taught No one owes me a living. That's what Mr. Lee told us. If your attitude is to inherit wealth then the inheritance was bigger for Malaysia. But inheritance aside, we have to ask ourselves fundamentally how we can do better. Your mindset has to change. Otherwise you will forever be blaming others for failure instead of improving yourself for success. Apply yourself.
@@oterenceo pls use logic bruh. singapore at the time is already a port and international hub. the people just need to continue to progress. and it is just a small island. if you were to manage an island and a big landmass country which is easier although the land is full of natural resources. people are scattered everywhere and you cant just take matter one place off the other furthermore the law of malaya about natural resources is handled by state administration except petroleum. to manage a small establish island is not that difficult compare to big country. almost every small nation without resources even without airport and port in this world has high GDP per capita shows why it is easy to manage small tiny island. use your brain bruh....
@@boromirinokripperino3928 where did i blaming sngapore bout its progress. i just highlighted about why malaysia seem slower to progress compare to singapore as the 1st comment suggest and i disagree. who said you stole??? you are so disgraceful and cant think what is fair and just. you just thinking about only whose right whose wrong just like a robot with no feeling. you just show what kind of people singaporean is.....
You and Singapore are morally right Doctor Vivian. Your explanation is very clear and precise and professionally explained to the August House and to the general lay audience as a whole. Truly Singapore is a blessed nation. Greetings from Miri, East Malaysia!
HELMY ABDULLAH
You have a proper education and im not a bias person.
@@mclucky2216 thanks but I'm just a former high school leaver and a security at a two star hotel here in Miri sir. Nothing more
HELMY ABDULLAH
You country needs appreciative and thinking human beings like you. I hope you will benefit in future when Malaysia develop into a more inclusive and racially equal country.
in MALAYSIA parliament...they talking like talking in the MARKET.,
Its not. Lol. Ur exagerrating. It hasnt even been touched for years
Zakariah Baharum
LOL Super or Wet Market ?
spore so small .. how d u compare msian parliament wt yours one... in a market u can smell democracy lives on...what do u expect
Ramsah Sabdin
Indeed. The federal can not unify state goverments
@@sabdinramsah IT'S NOT ABOUT HOW BIG OR SMALL IT'S ABOUT HOW HOW YOU CARRIED YOUR SELF THAT'S MOST IMPORTANT!!!
In 1962 , Malaysia was richer, with vast resources .... while Singapore was deemed " hopeless / sure cannot survive "
Years passed, if Malaysia chose to remain stagnate, they must bear the consequences
I would say lost years. The years that Dr.M was PM are the years which Msia truly stagnated, now here he is back again…
@@gappai PH gorvt cannot moves malaysia to the next higher level. They are trying to sow discord betweens johorean and singaporean. Dont the PH party ever forgets that more than 400,000 johoreans rice bowls are in singapore.
Yes, malaysia was richer and we generously supplied cheap water to you for the longest time
Remember that we were nice to you. Don’t treat a few cent of price review as if you’re going to war with us. It is only a few cents!!!
Singapore wouldn't be here without the british heck even the british already build singapore in 1800era until singapore independed😂
As MY politics situation getting more & more uncertain & hostility risen, SG should escalate effort to tap on other resource supply and reduce SG exposure to MY economy.
We are already doing that... We singaporean will refrain from visiting Malaysia as much as possible!
Wonderful. Best of luck.
I applaud Singapore's parliament in session, it 's usually conducted in an orderly manner with opposition MP asking important question concerning issue facing their country and the official usually provide answer to those queries in a very statesman liked manner. It is quite a different scenario in its neighboring country where the Parliament look more like a circus where clowns (MP) are gathered and acted out for media spot light rather than a solemn branch of government out to take care of the nation's affair.
Hon. Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, had clearly explained the agreements which are still in force. You need to consider the senile ex-PM who still keep saying the Malays are poor. What did he do when he was the PM. He only enriched his cronies and his sons and daughter to become billionaires.
These are PAP s highly paid polition who are so relaxed
Love your parliament...very much professional and I believe Mas should learn
High hopes! Msia is what it is. They never learn. Period
@@thanalaxmi5508 2020 is a laughing wish
Its actually quite hilarious that Dr Mahathir actually thought that riding the moral high horse was the perfect way to engage Singapore. It just reflects how one dimensional and low resolution Malaysian politicians are capable of, as it plays out in the international theatre, just shows in plain sight how completely incompetent and outrageous these bullies are. Malaysia would benefit in so many ways had they choose to seek a more reasonable working relationship with Singapore. History ties us together, they can continue on the animosity or work together to a better tomorrow.
Simple being kiasu wont help as well in any way
@@yangerek78 This has nothing to do with kiasu. Talk is cheap. The water agreement is sanctity which Dr, M also agreed when asked. Enough said. Let's take this water agreement issue to international arbitration and see what is the result. Nobody is stopping Dr. M to do that right? Or it is up to the Sultan of Johor to decide? I think the Sultan of Johor has reasons to believe that the state of Johor also benefited with the current arrangement.
@@johnchua1087 in that case why not reviewe the water price give the price they want and move on. By proceeding to imternational arbitration what or how much exactly do we gain when obviously it is their wster at their country supplied to us
@@yangerek78 It is not free water to begin with. An agreement is an agreement. Moreover the agreement is sanctity (you should go check the meaning of sanctity). They have lost their chance to review the water pricing long ago and it is then Dr. M who said they did not need to review. Have you ever sign any agreement with any one or buy anything that requires you to sign an agreement? What is an Agreement to you? Say you sign an agreement to buy a 99 year condo with a developer, Then you pay 100 dollars for example, then 50 years later the developer say you are rich so I want to review the original agreed price to 1000 (figuratively)..you are ok with that?
@@johnchua1087 well if its not for free than i guess just oay more since no one can live without water no matter whatever agreement there is. Look how about we start by kicking out of kiasu and negative attitude first like die die want to win thingy and start be neighbourly and understanding in wherr
they coming from
Almost all of Malaysia's politicians could hardly speak as eloquently as this Singapore minister.
Playing Mobile Legends on iPad whilst delivering parliamentary rebuttal - boss 👨💻
Is not about rich or poor...is the principle...1962 treaty applied.
simple principle but you know old senile people wont understand, he is trying hard not to be a joke to the world
Singapore stands firmed.
We as Malaysian produce water for Singaporean. Please revise the Agreement
Engineer Khairul we singapore provide many job for the Malaysian please return all the salary
@@ahchoon9067 yes please revise that too. Take skilled worker from your other neighbours, because we're not just a neighbour, we once own Singapore.
Just honor the agreement lah, why is Mahatir forever trying to threaten Singapore with this water issue? He got nothing new to say already is it?And since when the water agreement has to do with whether Singapore is rich or not?
At 93, that's an achievement. He can still remember its water agreement that helped to instill hatred. Others would have went home to be with Jesus. LOL
Hiroshi Yamashita 💀
@@hiroshiyamashita2090 lol 😂 😂 😂
Minister for Foreign Affairs Dr Vivian Balakrishnan is intelligent very articulate in his ideas n speeches. The PAP government is always correct in choosing the right candidate for the job. Never feel disappointed for the foreign affairs minister performances. Highly respected for Dr Vivian Balakrishnan .
I worked at Kertih,which is rich of oil & gas,what is upset me most is the unbalanced economy in Malaysia states here in Terengganu our state is so far behind development compared to west Malaysia but our natural resource is plenty,why this happen because of Dr M he not give enough royalty to our state he just focus on west malaysia,I think Sabahan And Sarawakian also think this unfair
Dear Singaporean please guide us...
You are a thinker !
Sarawak and Sabah should ask for independence as well!
@@peuro4802 You are a thinker too !
Look at what Bersatu has achieve?
Giving people more problems
Wayang wayang shadow show
LOL... As sarawakian we don't need guide from Singapore. Sarawak can manage our own problem. But we do mind accepting any positive and constructive opinion.
Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad, apart from personally choosing not to review the price of water in 1987 , had a further opportunity to revise the price.
In a letter to then Senior Minister Lee Kuan Yew, Tun Dr Mahathir offered to sell water to Singapore at a "fair price" of 60 sen per 1,000 gallons, in return for concessions on other elements of an overall package.
Responding to the offer in a letter dated April 23, 2001, Mr Lee said that if there was "give and take on both sides, an agreement is possible".
It was in this spirit that Mr Lee visited Kuala Lumpur in September 2001.
But while negotiations were in progress, the Malaysian government raised the asking price to RM3 per 1,000 gallons, 100 times the existing price of raw water.
This demand made it difficult for common ground to be reached, and led to a stalemate in the negotiations.
Rather than rummage through history and indulge in the politics of envy, Dr Mahathir should look into the future and see how the issue of water price can be resolved.
Until then, Singapore will stand by the terms of the 1962 Water Agreement.
Any breach of that agreement would, according to Foreign Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, call into question the Separation Agreement, which is the basis for Singapore's existence as an independent sovereign state.
Yes Singapore is not paying a price that is not reviewed.
This is how a proper Minister speaks.
There is no "morally" wrong or right when 2 parties enter a contract, there is only benefits and profits. Would a bank enter a contract to loan money base on moral grounds? Did anyone had to take any moral high grounds when u sign an employment contract with a company for a job? A comment that make no sense whatsoever. Hopefully Malaysians will not mislead by his comments to incite discontent between both countries.
Absolutely right.
Singapore's minister is awesome. Highly intelligence and know what they are doing. His speech is full of knowledge. really respect. Malaysia is far behind.
When a coconut drink seller signed a contract to buy coconut from a rich plantation owner for 100 years, but plantation owner’s son squandered his wealth away, and after 2 years, became poorer than the coconut drink seller... can he renegotiate the contract because now the coconut drink seller is richer than him?
Quakespear Shatters yes, only stupid people don’t sell at market prices.
@@Jaguar0xf Honoring a contract is not being stupid. It is called integrity.
Only Malaysia can.
Kai Lim any person with no integrity and honour can break a contract
@@quakespr you have no idea how much your government earned from paying 3 sen then sell it to you at sgd 2.40
Making Singapore poorer will not make Malaysia richer. That is true. But it will make Malaysia look better. The contrast between Singapore and Malaysia is a constant rebuke and humiliation to Mahathir. Why is Singapore, a small island with no natural resources performing so much better that Malaysia with its huge natural wealth including oil. When oil was over US$100, where did that money go to? Now Malaysia is impoverished while Singapore is still rich. This is an unbearable disgrace to Mahathir. Every night he bang his head against the wall in anguish. But being the arrogant man that he is, he could not admit the truth. So he searched for an excuse, it is because Singapore took their water. What does Mahathir know about morality? He backstabbed Anwar with false accusations and jailed him all because of his greed for power. He is an unscrupulous criminal who should be locked up in jail instead of being let loose to do more evil.
Menteri Singapore ini bijak dan sopan Santun dan handsome
Thankfully we had Lee Kuan Yew to bring Singapore to where we are 🙏
LKY has his successor LSL a leader with wisdom & vision whereas for Malaysia ?????
True!!!Majulah Singapura!!!😍
@@Amy-we4ij dishounourable son
It's because Singapore is tiny....
@@yangerek78 His father can never rest in peace as he almost make the country bankrupt.
So if my friend are richer, he need to pay more when we go out? 🤣😂🤣
Just pay your own bill, don't ask others to belanja (subsidies)
for 1k gallons of water and barely 1 ringit for that, that fact was just to support his statement, you must not use that supportive statement as the main issue here
It all depend on why you need a friend for.
That's Asian mentality, sort of.
Lets say you rent a food stall for $ 5000 / month. You work very hard to improve your recipes, you open 18 h per day incl. weekends, you rip your arxe open doing promotions, and after 2 - 3 years your stall is famous and people Q for your great food.
What happens next?
The landlord will come and ask for $12000 / month. You certainly disagree, have to move out, new location is lesser good, you lose half of your customer basis.
morally yes, u need to support a bit.
Foreign politicians ought to think thrice before making comments against Singapore. I'd like to see if the Minister's comments are accurately reported in the Malaysian media.
Wait we shut down the water tap.don ask for help.if go war,pls bring ur military full gear and stand front line.not like NS..real war..
@@yeoweehuathuat8926 your comments reflect your level of intellect. I am familiar with NS of both sides. One trains a boy to become a soldier while the other seems to be a girls scout camping trip that may allow you to return home if your mother is down with the flu.
Yeo Wee Huat Huat
Some babi shuts down Ringit’s Sungei Punngor main inlet during CNY 2019. I have no water to even bath during that hot period.
Our Chinese populated village every CNY and as and when water kena disturb, seems like you people love to play around with water tap.
Im Not surprise at your comment as well.
Yeo Wee Huat Huat
Do u know i did 72 KM route march with almost 20++ to 30++ KG of field pack ?
It was a hell of a lifetime experience with my brothers.
Can see smoke on my shoulder and arms leh, you know? Have you ever?
@@mclucky2216 Playing with water tap? That's considered as sabotaging and vandalism in Singapore.
Just be fair, we are in 2022 and operating costs are getting higher due to global inflation.
Well said Dr Vivian.
Malaysia just pretending they're poor but actually all are very rich !!
mr bin
They themselves know their administration lost tonnes of money on malay business subsidy as well as taxes. Lol
mr bin only the higher ups are rich cause they are exploiting the poor
these is like someone sold me a house cheaply and then decade later my house appreciate and you want some refund. grim reaper is waiting for Mahathir; if he can destroy UMNO; singapore is his last breath to destroy his beside wanting to make his son the next PM
somers lim thank you for making this simple to understand
Dr Vivian is amazingly amazing.. #RESPECT
Yes singapore are rich due to hard work and a clean govenment unlike malaysia.
Yusri Abdul Razak absolutely and safe too.....amazing....!!!!
Mahahamat always twist and turns his words, thts why mslaysia cannot success.
we better then a dictator country~😂😂😂 remember you must say supreme leader lee kuan yew 😂😂😂
@RZZ nn surpass singapore only matter of time, our market is bigger then SG, if they want some war throw some missile, singapore gone 😂😂😂
Yesss clean SG Government..PAP 💪
I think Mr LKY must be laughing on this water issue from up there😅😊
Irene Lim :no Irene, LKY kept asking God to let him go back alive again, because I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO COULD FACE THE WILY OLD MAN
@faridah hanum lol
@faridah hanum Even if I convert to Islam, it will still not solve the water issue. Don't get so personal. Perhaps Dr. M should raise this in court.
faridah hanum
U must be on drugs or poor education
Kafir? 😂. So let me guess, you are anti ICERD too? 🤨🤔
Singapore invested in brains while Malaysia didn't.
They have a culture of divorcing their 1st wife to marry their 5th girl friend.
Zul Rahman
I have a simple dream. Racial equality in Malaysia.
Maybe Mahathir does not know what legally binding contracts and agreements are for. Basically, it means you are legally obliged to respect what is stated and agreed upon signing the contract, until it expires. After that, you can renegotiate when the current agreement expires.
Of course the kar-Tun knows. He is just openly being smelly. With documented agreements between nations he can be smelly, I wonder what will happen to the verbal agreement between him and Anwar. Poor poor Anwar, always so close to being PM. Maybe in the next life.
"It is the worst deal in the history of trade deals, ever", sounds familiar right, jokes aside its the same government which could unilaterally cancel ongoing local and foreign development projects, while at the same time complain on short of goverment resources and foreign investment…
@Tosh Dan Malaysia need to terminate the water supply
Muhammad Secret we are not as in gentlemanly as Singapore, we will still give them cheap water at a higher rate only. Beside, we are their only water source.
Embarrassed to see Malaysians behaving stupidly. A deal is a deal and to renegotiate is one thing but to accuse Singapore of being "morally wrong" is another. Anyone with a clear mind can tell this is just Dr. M being silly.
First time I'm seeing this video.
I think this is what LKY meant by "how to differentiate ourselves from our neighbours in order to compete and survive, and also get along with them"
I'm very impressed with Mr. Vivian Balakrishnan.
I know this is late, but "Well done, Singapore."
I hope our Malaysian ministers can follow the footsteps of Singapore.
Without being racist, you think your bumiputra MP possess such intellect and ability? The day will come when pigs start to fly.
Remember, he did mention that the price Singapore sells its water back to Malaysia, has already been "heavily subsidized", and this was based on the contract which both nations have agreed on a very long time ago, Singapore at that time was not as prosperous as it is today and knowing that they still agreed to the deal, do you know how much it costs to treat water? running an operation island wide not only that, but also to Johor? There are equipment that has to be maintained, workers to that needs their salary, just as Singapore grows, the standard of living grows too, what makes you think that all these do not need additional cost.
There is only one thing Mahathir can do, that is to just void the contract and cut all water supply to Singapore, that of course would be killing of Singapore slowly but what would the whole world think of Malaysia? Yes, a cruel country, no matter how much Mahathir emphasis on how Singapore is "morally wrong" to sell water at a higher price but remember, it has already been subsidized and there is the contract to back Singapore, we did nothing wrong, not only that but remember our cost of living increased so you have to account for that too, sure Johor can very well survived on the water they have, i am sure they have some sort of water purification facility.
Now back to the water, Mahathir can talk about the "morale" he emphasized but the position he put Singapore in is so called "threatening" us, he can choose to stop the flow of water into Singapore just like many of his citizens would want but what about the morale that he solely emphasis on? What will the whole world think of Malaysia? Singapore has many investors and countries which it has bilateral relations to help out us out, either that or we will die off, but again what will the whole world think of Malaysia, i'm sure most of the citizens will say that they don't care but wait a few years later and see what happens, investors will leave even countries would want to break ties.
Singapore government is like Israel. The water agreement is tied up with Malayan railway land. Singapore can do all kinds of things and it will for its own sake. Singapore did not eject from Malaysia! She was expelled bcos late LKY wanted to be the PM of Malaysia, fast! Singapore feels that she is “superior!” to all the rest of SEA.
There is no contract that cannot be broken.
Cosmo John
True
Sarawak may break from Malaysia to form an Christian country. (Almost half of Sarawakians are Christians.)
Johor can recede from Malaysia too.
Lets stick to the facts and not digress, I see some Singaporeans talking abt how SG provide jobs to malaysia and some Malaysians talking abt how Malaysia has better housing. This is digression at its finest. Heres the facts without any form of biasedness. Stop playing the "water is sold at a ridiculous price" "sg should be grateful" card when those arent the underlying reasons for SG's refusal. An agreement is an agreement, just because a business u invested in is doing well beyond ur expectations, it doesnt give u the right or privilege to demand for a higher equity? This is all WAYANG at its best. When Mahathir was in power back then, he had the opportunity to ask for a review during the window, but he didnt. He knew damn well inflation is obviously a thing yet he didnt ask for a review. Now he wants to make up for his mistake by playing victim and blaming Singapore so that he doesnt come off as guilty. Did Mahathir forget that apart from treated water itself, more than $100 mil was invested in Johor Dam and pipelines project which benefitted Johoreans as well? Did Mahathir forget that during flood crisis, while malaysia send their Bomba to help, SG send the army along with PUB technicians to provide treated water to the victims by setting up pump stations? Did Mahathir forget the instances whereby certain sources of freshwater dried up and the agencies called SG for help to send excess treated water? At the end of the day, an agreement is an agreement. Whoever signed the agreement on Malaysia's part was to be blamed for not taking inflation into account along with Mahathir's error in assuming that isnt a need for a review back then.
this is open to civilised discussion, no form of political hooliganism will be entertained. stick to the issue, dont bring up non water related points.
👍Way to go, Dr Balakrishnan! That's why I love and respect my government - so rational and discerning 🤓
Yuck. Controlling, kiasu and phoney
🖕😂 Good. Lets your cpf screw...and your minister pay high and outreach at ivy tower...
no ball to topup opposition hehe keke
he previously manage water and cck east ward in singapore
@@860623496517 I love the CPF and I actually don't mind Ministers getting high pay and not doing shit like 1MDB :) They are people of high calibre and it's not that rare to see professionals earning that pay in Singapore.
With all due respect Sir Foreign Affairs Minister Vivian Balakrishnan, thanx and congratulations Sir for sharing this video with us all. Indeed. Dated this 2 October 2022.. 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬👌👌👍👍🙏🙏
Was the QnA preplanned? He has a deck points prepared right before him.
A questioner knows that a good answer requires time to prepare. Unless you are not looking for a good answer but instead looking to score a point.
Well said Mr Balakrishnan.
LOL its repeat telecast. Same answer all these years. Subject matter being borrowed from yester-years. Nothing new, just repeat and repeat, like a broken record. Not like some new thoughts being raised to counter attack, or even worst, if there is any new idea to attack the sick o man, it still needs approval. Again, as I said, its just repeat and repeat, so its just playing time. At 93, or is it 94 now, time is running out. LOL
Hiroshi Yamashita
A chinese saying goes, the greatest war was fought when you dont even have to shot an arrow at all. If you watch and listen to this video not for the sake of just listening, you would capture a core statement which is legal binding.
U need me to tell you which of it as well?
Figure it out genius ...
SG prides itself for adhering to the rule of law. This case can only be settled in the world court. Vivian bala, please approach the world court. Mahathir is confident they will win if go to the world court. So, you should walk the talk, base on the rule of law. But the court will not be in Singapore.
Cosmo John
Cant wait for it to happen. Whatever the outcome, things will show...
A contract written in black and white, willingly signed by both parties, and with considerable investment decisions made midway on the basis of the contract by SINGAPORE. If Singapore really does go to the world court, Malaysia is going to lose hahaha. The only argument they got going is that "Singapore is rich, and it is morally wrong to be paying so little for water". Cute.
@@teerificbitch get your facts right.
The agreement has a clause for price revision
if only the Parliament of Malaysia is like thi- wait i change my mind it never will be like this
Very comprehensive summery, to reply with tactful diplomatic, with record of events. 👍
A question cross on my mind. As a Singaporean should we fight Malaysia if the latter refuse to honour the obligation of water supply agreement between the two countries?
Good foreign diplomacy is an effective way and will always remain to be the most preferred choice of approach. It is never Malaysia's intent to stop the sale of water too. They know clearly they stand to gain and sometimes they are simply using this as a convenient distraction from other issues.
Fight all the way......maybe annex johor state just like the russia did in ukraine n china gonna do to taiwan.
for the many reasons which have led to Singapore's success are the same reasons why Msia has not progressed since the separation in 1960s (i.e. issues on corruption, good governance, right people for the right jobs, meritocracy, and the list goes on..)
You would probably need to explain why would multinational companies invest in Singapore in making use of Singapore as a financial services hub of SEA instead of Msia? The answer honestly you would know best. Evidently so, this answer is the very reason why a number of Msians are coming to Singapore to ply their trade and for many Msians who study overseas (e.g. UK, US, Australia), would place those countries as the first choice of destination to work. Just FYI, whatever Dr M is doing has to a certain extent, a knock-on impact on the Msians in Singapore..
@Jairul Joe
First of,
There is no wrong-doing on SG's part with regards to the water, we are simply abiding by the agreement. It was signed in the 60s for a considerable time by BOTH PARTIES, complaining about the price now, half a century later reflects badly on the then Malaysia negotiators for their failure to price in the economic growth/inflation we see now.
Secondly,
You claim that we are not ethically managing it right?
Treating water and selling it back to Malaysia at a higher price is always brought up. But pple conveniently overlook the party that pays for the infrastructure needed for the treatment. It has totalled by some reports over a billion dollars, does Msia cover that or subsidise it? If not do you think you are getting the treated water back at the our purchase price?
Come on man, elementary stuff...
Third,
Why are your rebukes focused on bribery and corruption? Digressing from the topic completely and conspicuously avoiding the point @ZZ L brought up on how SG's reasons for success is incidentally MSIA's reasons for stagnation.
Maybe its time, to confront the issue at hand?
MSIA's leaders are just not as competent as SG's;how else can a tiny red dot, devoid of resources totally outplay, outwit their contemporaries across the border?
@Jairul Joe
The problem is MSIA's incompetence and their supporters' are too myopic to acknowledge it.
RM 0.5 obviously does not equate to SGD 0.5, funny how you should point this out; you do realise that a currency's strength is indicative of their countries's economy right?
Truth be told; if MSIA has the capabilities to make the treatment themselves, go ahead.. by all means, at the very least it spares us the yearly episode of MSIAN's crying foul.
But i highly doubt yall could, else yall would have done it already... there's a word that sums this all well : INCOMPETENCE. Look it up CHUMP
Mr Joe, I dont think you know the or even understand the clear facts. What I am seeing here is a supporter that is crying foul over the failings of his government, particularly, his current PM (for his historical failings). It was your government who signed the agreement - nobody forced your hand to do so. It was Dr M himself who failed to review the agreement when he had the chance to do so. If there is any culpability on why the price is whatever you have mentioned, you should know who to lay the blame onto.
@Jairul Joe The moral issue that Dr M raised is completely irrelevant to the water issue. Moral is not determine by price, it is determine by the integrity and character of a person.
Following the terms of the contract is not immoral, breaking one's promise or commitment in a contract is. If the Malaysian government go back on its words, that is immoral.
Backing Singapore on this one
Go honor the deal and the agreement malaysia
This agreement came to existent because you malaysia lot kicked singapore out from the federation out of selfish fear and jealousy that a minority such as lky might rule and take over your whole country
Singapore even had to ask UN for help to gain these deals as a compensation for kicking them out in the cold and to help kick start and alleviate the burden of self governing
I dont understand why the malaysian people still vote for him...this old man needs to retire already
This old man only knows how to skin cats but does not know how to bit the bullet. There are a lot of facts stated and given which any reasonable person could understand the reasons why the contract should be respected and fair. We should not waste time dealing with the liar who has a track record of flip flopping even to his own people. All he can say in his argument is the 3 cents. There are 'simple' people who believe him blindly also. He should spend more time managing his country politics than pick a quarrel with a quiet neighbour.
@@violetlee8736 this wily old man is going to make life miserable for Singaporeans, because HATING SINGAPORE IS IN HIS D. N. A. (and you deserve it)
actually chinese refugee in malaysia want that island to become their own country. everyone know this
Lols u don't need to understand also worry about ur politic. Our polictic is ours and who we vote is our business in Malaysia. Ur own country now shaking everything went up still wanna talk cock? At least we got the guts to kick out bn. How about u all still voting for pap? Lols
bro.. know your history please.. its singapore who wants to exit from malaysia.. are u kidding me?
Well done vivian.
U trust this multi million dollar ye man
yangerek deone
How about you guys trusting your Trillion god-son ? U know who am i referring to right?
Still a very humble and clear speaker in any debate or talk.
Is it only water supply Singapore is related to Malaysia?
Wish i can speak like him
How is it that Malaysia is a poor country when Tun M was it's longest serving Prime Minister ?
Malaysia is not a poor country. Just as Singapore cant claim to be rich when its citizens at age of 70 still need to work as waiters at Mc Donald
@@shamshulanuar1097 I agree that it's disgraceful for our Ministers to walk with their heads high when the elderly are suffering. However, I was merely referencing the comments by Dr M. I must add that In terms of Education and Defence, Singapore is surely ahead but in terms of Housing and Medical, Singapore lacks behind Malaysia. Singapore may not have a proper understanding of the term SUBSIDISED.
@@user-ov6hs1go4k actually the issue is the mind boggling pricing of 3 cents oer thousand gallon of untreated water sold to Singapore.
Whether Singaporeans live on gold plated house or have billion in CPF is immaterial.
@@shamshulanuar1097 an agreement is in place and both sides ought to honour the agreement. It shows that the Singapore leaders who were involved in signing the original agreement were far sighted and highly intelligent. If Singapore voluntarily pays Malaysia more than what was agreed, it's citizens will not be pleased and may fire the government of the day via the ballot box. Singapore also voluntarily spent billions of ringgit to improve the dam which sits on Malaysian soil. Dr M was not complaining then.
@@user-ov6hs1go4k hmnnn.let me make things simpler for you. There is a clause for price revision.
And do tell me is there anything that you can buy in this era for 3 cents?
No need fight for water la....
.. Just give la...
Even Singaporeans can't get more money out of our government. Forget about them giving Malaysia an inch!
Will the consequences be right and good for Singapore if we fight Malaysia for the supply of water?
Vivilan bala is very clear n a polite Dr.
I'm a m'sian.
Yes. He used to be very blunt and drew some flake.
Brain washed
@@tyjay6885 you are brain dead who cant think impartially or rationally anymore.
@@NC000C I am saying morally. It is not fair to MY. Sg is ripping off...
@@tyjay6885 why why why ? is it fair that SG has been susidizing my all these years? what about the price of treated water ?
Malaysia must not worry when raw water comes from rain water and Allah always gives you back your raw water in the form of floods and landslide. It cost Malaysia no money or effort to treat your raw water and you get subsidise rate for treated water because Singapore is very diligent and will sell you treated water at a subsidise rate because you cannot afford to pay for water treatment.
"in the form of floods and landslide" or "in the form of rain" 😏
I like to watch and listen to the polite meeting and debate.
As a Johor native many of us approve the deal, we've been relying on Singapore to supply us with treated water for awhile now. The trade is mutually beneficial and sometimes even one-sided favouring Johor instead of Singapore due to our demands (Johoreans) for treated water especially during droughts. Please understand that the people of Johor do not share values or policies with the federalist.
A trip down memory lane. An Amazing throwback. Its 3yrs ago.. 🇸🇬🇸🇬🇸🇬
calm composure, well mannered tone....文雅..冷静..
Malaysia does not respect the 1962 Agreement and Malaysia has lost the right to revise the raw water price after not doing so in 1987.
Malaysia has always respected and never violated the terms of the 1962 Agreement. The Government of Malaysia merely states that it has the right to revise the raw water price sold to Singapore, after 25 years of the 1962 Agreement entered into force.
Malaysia's right is not disputable. Clause 14 The agreement clearly provides that it may be reviewed today, and not only in 1987, since the clause states "... shall be subject to review after the expiry of 25 years from the date of these presents ... ". The "after" statement in this clause means "after" instead of "current".
@thin red line goodies ??... Malaysia is the one giving goodies, not Singapore. 3 cent per 1000 galon is almost giving Singapore free water. PS sungai kim kim polution is because human greed not God sign. If there is an earthquake or any natural disaster then you can say its God's sign.
@thin red line kindly list up what goodies are you refering to ?... I cant think of any other than 50c water that Singapore SOLD back to Malaysia using 0.03c water from Malaysia.
@thin red line
What singapore goodies? Never heard of this before. Explain!
@thin red line LoL this idiot doesnt know what inflation means. Price back then for 1960s okay la, want to compare to now? You go bring 1 SG Dollar to kedai makan, see what you can get now and back then. Whats the point of the internet if you cant even use basic common sense? WHy stick to an agreement that doesnt benefit malaysia anymore? Just because it was written decades ago? LoL
@thin red line you know that one of the 3 main suspects of the sungai kim kim issue is a singaporean right?
A good piece of speech deliver .
At that time of Separations, Malaysia Govt thought Singapore cannot survived without any resources. Also they thought the water they got was free from sky and selling to SG for money make economical sense. Afterall the impure water will be treated by SG and sell back to Malaysia for also a few cents. Malaysia don't have to come out any capital. Get a few cents from a rich country is inmoral ? SG was poorer than MY. Formerly at time of Separation SG Dollars was at $1 - 80 MY cts. Due to Corruption and incompetent officials, Malaysia with vast resources the money went to corrupted pockets. Since Malaysia set a rule NEP that all big company need a Bumi of 30% shares. His son became the richest by sitting as board of Director of many companies . Just chop and sign.
Forgive my ignorance but who's the gentleman speaking in the opening 25 seconds?