Will Arsenal's process win a title?
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
- Arsenal have taken the title race to the final day by winning 1-0 against Man United on Sunday at Old Trafford.
Despite Man City still having the title in their hands, Arsenal will be hoping for results to land their way to claim a Premier League for the first time in 20 years.
But if the Gunners fall short, how long without delivering a league title can Arsenal trust the process under Mikel Arteta for?
Ayo Akinwolere is joined by The Athletic's football correspondent David Ornstein and Arsenal writer Jordan Campbell to analyse how Arteta has managed to build his side to this point, as well as look ahead to what their next steps will be.
00:00 Intro
00:14 Man United v Arsenal
04:16 Arsenal’s resilience
07:46 How much longer can Arsenal simply trust the process?
14:59 Can Arsenal go another season without a trophy?
21:32 What will Arsenal be defined by?
25:06 What the summer looks like for Arsenal
30:37 Mikel Arteta’s contract
32:29 Diversifying the squad
38:08 Outro
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How much can we trust this process? Are you joking Arsenal win nearly every week, most wins in a 38 game season, I’ll back arteta if we are around this level no matter what the media push
lol choking every year never gets old.
@@oitoitoi1 15 wins out of 17 this year, drew to city and lost to the team in 4th, the absolute shit people like you still try and level at Arsenal is funny at this point
@@oitoitoi1Choking every year? They've literally competed in just two season in almost 15. By your logic Liverpool has been choking more than anybody in recent times.
@@user-qj9pj1sx5d Cook that dude
@@oitoitoi1dead banter lad. 🥱🥱🥱
As I type this comment, I notice there were 115 previous comments already made. Very fitting.
David oracle ornstein is the best open journalist. No click bait just information.. that's a class journalist 👏
Great journalist, terrible podcaster
Only non AFC fans will ignore how much AFC has improved. Even if we win something this year or next the same people will still try and find a reason to do it down which is why loving it as it shows their team are so sh!te they have to look outwards to make themselves feel good instead inwards to their own teams LOL
It’s more fascinating when you check out those who like to be negative and downtalk all things Arsenal.
They all seem to have something in common and also notice that’s it’s hardly ever city fans?
It’s always rival fans who’s clubs were something in years gone by but are nowhere near Arsenal right now.
Or it’s ex footballers posing as pundits but they were all players who arses got whipped throughout their careers by Arsenal when we were winning Premier Titles.
They all know where Arsenal are heading and if it’s not this season it will be next for sure.
I’m just happy we are back where we belong and that’s challenging for silverware with a strong foundation🔴⚪️
Don't really agree with comment on Arsenal making a hardwork of Utd & City coasting all through. City also struggled against Forest & should have lost the match if Wood had his shooting boot on
The second he made that assertion, he was countered
City coasting? If Chris Wood had his shooting boots on, Forrest would have won. Every team has those games where they aren't good but still get the points. Liverpool have done it all season
And now if son had finished his dinner as well
Arsenal are doing well. I hope they keep up with the progress.
People are quick to assign success based off trophies.
But winning a league cup or an FA cup isnt as important as being a top 5 club in the world, of which arsenal arguably are.
Only city and real madrid are probably better teams than arsenal right now.
Arteta has done a fantastic job and i sincerely hope he continues to improve.
Bayern Leverkusen is probably better
@@micah.101 good shout. I didn't include them as it's only been one season. But yes right now they are better than arsenal most probably.
honestly think Leverkusen are better than us at the moment as well. 4th in the world ain't half bad though.
They forgot Bayern are better than them
Ayo is trying SO HARD to be devil's advocate here. There's no wayyyy any significant part of Arsenal's fanbase "cannot take another trophyless season". Bruh, have you not seen Arsenal before Arteta?
"Sometimes I'll start a sentence, and I don't even know where it's going." - Michael Scott - David Ornstein
Amazing cast, great video
David Ornstein speaks a lot of truth. 👍🏻🙏🏻
The young team already made history, most arsenal win in a season since the league established. Still, they not reaching their peak yet.
Well done everyone. Arsenal have done something amazing. Arteta has done fantastically well. However there is a lot to improve on still. Arteta is learning and growing himself. We need to rotate players a lot more. That would allow us to go further in more tournaments. Saka and Saliba gab’s don’t need to play every game. We need to have two squads both with their own way of playing. Arteta needs to do better in cup tournament.
Guys man his name isn’t Rowch it’s art de Roché
We've done well but ultimately its about better over the line.
As ive always said...i wish arsenal could get rid of some fans like how we get rid of certain players...ungrateful,lack football knowledge...and hard to please
Can keep trusting the process until it really drops off. Hopefully the staff and culture keep believing and having faith that some big trophies can come next year or the year after, this side is still young and can only get better, they could create a little dynasty.
For a team without a top number 1, or number 9.. they're pretty good!!
😂 the funniest part of the whole thing.
David checking his phone again :)
So many rival fans or Arteta haters crying. Love it. If we win the league, the new narrative wil be " Arteta hasn't won the Champions league with all that money, what a disaster"
Guys get a life.
They are all over...They can't stand seeing Arsenal competing again...
No if somehow Arsenal did pull it off it would be “oh they need to do 3 times in a row😂
People are trying their hardest to undermine and hate on what we've done but I hope all real fans love this club as much as I do. We've seen some terrible teams in the not so distant past, I'm just enjoying every minute of this. We're so so good. Title or not we're so good.
Arsenal's league placement in recent seasons mask over the fact that Chelsea's time 'in the mud' resulted in a CL trophy while your halcyon period "on top" has delivered zero in the way of silverware... If Arteta doesn't win anything, will anyone remember or care how good you've been this season?
@@BSMAG87
Chelsea's time in the mud didn't result in a ucl trophy. They won it went Abramovich was still in charge😉
Arsenal living rent free in your head 🧏♂️
As long as Pep is around no one will ever win that trophy & Arsenal’s process would be not tolerated at a bigger club… it’s a cute and noble thing but trophies matter more in the end.
I hope MA bring Santi bck as part of his staff crew.
Can someone ask Ornstein who he support?
City are the exception - getting 90+ pts consistently every year is a tough job. It's a shame Arsenal likely falls short again after the season the team had
Kronke's have done brilliantly ignoring the fans as most fans seem to think like FIA players on PS5.
Their weakness is now the youth academy
Lewis Skelly and Nwanieri wanted by City and signed for us....WHAT?
Not to mention the main attraction, Chido Obi
@@MovementMagazineLtd its getting better, but we are still away from the kind of consistent quality Man C's academy seems to be churning out.
2nd weakness related: creating a better pathway for academy players into the first team.
Arsenal must sign a marquee signing to win the league next season a lautaro martinez, Rodrygo, Mussiala or even Rafa Leao there needs to be a game changer of a signing up front.
Arsenal don't need Rodrygo .. Trossard n Martenelli
You can tell Ornstein is an Arsenal fan
If they don’t start winning soon I’d wave goodbye to Odegaard and Saliba lol
Definitely COYG
15:20 Sorry, but can this guy try a little to not make this interview like a reality TV commentary?
People do forget we’ve spent like 500m in 3 seasons
So many non Arsenal fans here crying they wish their club was Arsenal 😂😂😂
Do you say Ferrero Roach????
I forgot that, that the Arteta-Outers absolutely hated The Athletic for what they perceived as propaganda for Arteta and Kroenke that in some ways countered their incessant pitchforks. 😂
Any chance you guys could do a what next for Wrexham podcast after another promotion making it back to back promotions and how they’ll go about things for league one
Sorry, but Garnacho should pass the ball, mate - its a teamsport.
Arsenal 23-24
Most wins in a PL Season in club history
15 wins in 17 league games in 2024 (47 out of 51 total points)
Most Clean Sheets
Fewest Goals Conceded
Unbeaten vs Big 6 Clubs
Three players with 10+ league goals
Premier League Champions???????
Never as long Mystique City still there.
It all means fcuk all when you win fcuk all
Premier League Champions??????? Bottle Job FC
4 years and counting...
David Ornstein is a fair journalist, but I resent the fact he, and most people who write on Arsenal for The Athletic, conveniently forget the fact fans were disappointed with the Kroenkes since 2011! it wasn't just a thing that happened in 2020!. This is why people say the Athletic is a mouthpiece for KSE. They had majority control of Arsenal since 2011 and did not invest or do anything till 2020. Why didn't they invest any any of those preceding years? with the "Project", or give wenger money so he didn't have 45 MILLION a season to invest? They are the sole reason this Club took over a decade to get back to where its meant to be.
“Majority” but not the full amount. Its been made clear these Americans are savvy businessmen and dont like doing business with dirty russians. Why would a American billionaire want a Russian to benefit from his funding to make the club better?
He has 3 titles ALREADY
Stop that nonsense community shield does not count
@@mrocto4839 lol then why is there a WHOLE TROPHY, MEDALS, CONFETTI. Match is even played at wembley ???? Answer me
@@georgewamae2751it’s a trophylet not a trophy 😜
Not when a juggernaut is "allowed" to cheat off the pitch financially and it allows them to win on the pitch!! 115
Man City is not beinga accused of cheating so your argument is moot and false.
arsenal had years of money poured in before there were any financial restrictions, then they set them up to pull up the ladder behind them.
@@oitoitoi1when did this happen because i been following Arsenal for over 30 years and I missed that money part? Put your source of info up so we check that🤔
Stop crying about 115 and things you know nothing about just media sh*t you been fed. Not one time have you heard our manager go on about 115. It’s 11 v 11 out there. Never stop fighting and stop crying.
@@TheDjSweets lol you think the emirates just sprang out of the ground you joke?
Yeah but not this year!
A very uninspiring performance from Arsenal but the win was vital.
Ah well as soon as fully get it in your brain that Arsenal are not here entertain you at this stage you might not feel so bad. We absolutely love defending.
Arsenal triplet 😊
Arteta has done a good job so far, but please stop talking like this team will stay here forever, don't also forget that there is a possibility we have an injury riddled season like united or newcastle
Good job, but now crown it with trophies, i dont want this team to be remembered as that great arsenal team who won nothing
lol chokers fc aren't going to win the league any time soon, no matter how much yank money they spend.
They said the same last year 😂
@@naseer7311 what did we say last year
@@oitoitoi1What have you won in your life you choker? 😂😂
@@naseer7311 they say the same every year. choking is all they know. won't win the league anytime soon.
4 seasons project to win nothing would be funny. Ironic considering how it took only half a season when Arteta arrived to win the first. Will they have anymore patience with Arteta if they win nothing again next season?
Funny thing is people didn't see how the team progressed from 4 seasons
Arteta rebuilding the whole squad and culture for 2 years is amazing considering before he came this team was totally awful.
Does anybody expect arsenal to be title challenger in the past 2 seasons?
If you told anybody in 2020 or 2021 that two years later arsenal is gonna be in the title race with city, alot of people will laugh at you including arsenal fans
Even last season when arsenal bottled the league, before the league started, everybody expected that Arsenal would finish at 4 or 5
Just by you even wanting to type crap here shows that you got issues and you don’t even believe the crap that your fingers are typing😂
@zephyrionz facts. This is no exaggeration, people genuinely had Chelsea, Spurs, United and Liverpool ahead of Arsenal this year, but we are questioned for not winning. Arsenal have been incredible in the league this year, let's hope there's a way to get it over the line this year, but let's keep it moving.
Who would you bring in Mr know it al.
If Arteta leaves then every team on earth would be interested even your team
Keep trusting process and finishing runners up 😂😂
How is your process going coming below 2nd....
😂😂😂😂😂
Keep the faith!
Did not answer the question, Arteta has done a good job but needs to win a trophy, there have been many great teams that have peaked trophy less
He won The Fa Cup
How many teams that have peaked have been up against a team with 115 charges for cheating and Pep?
Stop being stupid
@@MovementMagazineLtd 🤣🤣🤣
What an excuse
What does that have to do with the football being played
@@anjolatope-babalola2338 being charged 115 times for cheating has EVERYTHING to do with the football being played.
Call your GP...you seem ill
@@MovementMagazineLtd what are the charges
Please list them and explain how they relate to the football
No
Trust the Progress
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
villa tied....
Still got CLs and have won the league in the league in the last 20 years.
Arsenal rent free in your head🙋♂️
@@moviegooner49 tell that to the plethora of gooners polluting my inbox
SORRY but if the shoes fit, on the PR COMMENT,& WHAT HISTORY???
The problem with Arsenal is that while they are throwing the league away season by season, sides like Chelsea and Man United will not be poor forever. Despite what the media says or would like to see happen. They have improved immensely, in terms of the way they play, their defense etc. What hasn't changed is that they're still bottlers. Can't seem to ever take advantage or finish a task. They still lose the league when all they need to do is beat Aston Villa at home. This is the same thing they've been doing for years now. Even in the late Wenger years or when Leicester won the league, they'd just lose games that matter, regardless of the opponent.
The league hasn’t been thrown. We’ve won the most games in a league season in our history. Chelsea and United can keep getting better, as long as we do I don’t care
Grow up. Consistency is the essential difference between Great = "always good" teams versus "occasionally good" teams. Arsenal have not been great for a long time. And losing 1 game to Villa in 17 games is not bottling. It's just not being at the same level as 115 cheaters which should never have been the case had PL done its job.
@@unhandled776 The only consistency I see with Arsenal is that they keep losing their lead at the end of each season. they were ahead when they lost to villa, they were also ahead last season when they dropped points against relegated Southhampton.
@@Georged168 YET you are 2nd. Breaking your own dismal winning record doesn't mean you should be champions. You are 2nd because you couldn't beat 4th placed Villa to win the league. Not only did you lose the game, you were 2nd best throughout the match. Last season you drew against relegated Saints. Bottlers. You won't keep getting the same chances season after season. Mark my words Gooner.
Are any of these guys arsenal supporters, I wonder? Gross.
they wont win this year and you can be sure that Pep will rectify the slow start they had this season. Arsenal have outspent most top clubs with the exception of Chelsea in last 18 months and they have only one FA Cup. They were outsmarted against proper opposition in Bayern. They have outperformed this season and it still wasnt enough. Liverpool came up against this side for years in a row with more points than Arsenal will get and still didnt win. Pep will probably see out his contract and so probably no title next season either you can trust in the process but this isnt any normal team you are up against. Will Saka et all settle for another 3 seasons of top 3 there will be a space on the right of that City side when Silva goes.
All negative. Nothing positive to say. And all this time, I thought Saka was overrated....
Let me guess....you said this last year
Yes. Spending money season in season out will eventually win a title.
Tell that to Man United, Chelsea even Everton who’ve spent 700 million in 10 years
@@micah.101 Arsenal have spent £660m in 4.
@@valkyrst620 man united have spent £800 and chelsea nearly 2 billion in those 4 years u melt
@@micah.101 they’ve still spent loads. Doesn’t mean they haven’t. Chelsea will eventually sort themselves out. So will United. We’ll see where Arsenal land then.
@@valkyrst620we'll be above them...Chelsea have been nothing without Financial doping...
They just self reported Abramovich for dodgy finances.
There is nothing credible about the team sold for £1 in 2005
Arsenal isnt the gold standard, FIVE YEAR wait to win trophies? With all that EPL wealth? You kidding me?
EPL Wealth isn't the same as Nation Backed Wealth, despite the former being huge.
Is arsenal the only club with EPL wealth? What are the other 18 teams doing with their EPL wealth?
@@jacobalexander4167 now you are trying to compare Arsenal to Bournemouth 😂
nice thats where you think your club is
@@Freestyle80 straw man fallacy
Cry more. Love your salty tears.
Next season we are going unbeaten again and winning the UCL... COYG
If it was not for Garnacho, Arsenal would have lost. They'll lose against Everton.
They’ll spend another £250m for a 4th consecutive summer and get 2nd again while getting bounced out of every tournament early. Banter club.
and where is your team in all this? cry more
@@kijaniiii78th not spending hundreds of millions of dirty yank money and still choking every season?
@@oitoitoi1so you admitting your team isn't good enough to begin with?
@@jacobalexander4167 lol admitting my team doesn't have the resources available that arsenal has with it's legions of plastic tourist fans, you know those ones who leave the stadium every time you concede a goal, and dirty yank money. club of plastic bottlejobs.
only reason arsenal is rich is they had the money poured in before ffp came in, they pulled up the ladder behind them to ensure no matter how badly they choke every season they'll always be alright.
We’re back. The haters are all over the comments reeking of jealousy 😂
One FA Cup win since he took over. Is that good enough?
How much time does Arteta get?
Another £250m this summer will do the trick.
Us fans are happy with the job he’s done. United have won some trophies here or there too but would much rather be in the position we currently are than in United’s place. Two seasons in a row been in the title race against a peak city side that has only once conceded the title. The bar is very high to beat them out and Mikel is doing the best he can. It’s a total reversal from the late wenger years and unai years. Trophies will come with patience
@@Ray03595 sorry but fans have different opinions, there is no single opinion
Ps
We were in a title race once
City had like 8 games to spare last year
Good job he has done but we need trophies
@@Br1xt3R doesn't matter how much they spend, will still choke, it's what arsenal do.
@@anjolatope-babalola2338no, you’re just trying to change the past to make your argument. They had 8 games in hand? When? Arsenal topped the table for the majority of the seasons and lost steam towards the end. Not sure what your goal is in pretending City walked their way to the title that entire season… hoping you’re a new fan or something to have this opinion and still be against arteta. How quickly people forget where we were before. And that it’s not easy at all to get a club back on the right track.
Arsenal fans has to be realistic now, he has been their manager for 5 years and only has one FA cup to show for, they are where they are now mainly due to other team having massive injuries and let’s face the reality he is not the man to take them to the next level. I know most Arsenal fans would disagree with this, I’ll be seeing them calling him to be sacked when the chips are down next season, trust me.
Choking is in arsenal's dna, they aren't winning the league any time soon. "Pound shop Pep" arteta just isn't the same class as Guardiola, and neither is their side, too many soft bottle jobs as always.
I feel your pain
LOVE YOUR COMMENT. keep them coming
The 3rd highest trophy winning team in England...by a country mile...
Has choking in their DNA?
You need to get a job....i have spent 20 mins responding to the comments you made over a few hours.
You're triggered
@Bisschino lol why do you think I'm an immigrant? so on brand for pathetic arsenal fans to be racists. You're an embarrassment to our country.
"wealth" Here we go with the paupers narrative despite Asenal having spent alot more than City & Liverpool over thee last 5 or so years.
Depends on if you're only talking about Transfer fees or overall finance structure. I think Arsenal have a lesser salary cap for a few years.
Ben White stood up to everything? He got roasted all afternoon. It was only Garnacho's terrible end product and Saliba's solidity that saved him
All afternoon you mean twice? So which defender in Premier League hasn’t hd someone run past them throughout a season!? Just stick to FC24 and your comfy chair 😂😂😂