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  • David Speers interviews Deputy Prime Minister and Defence Minister, Richard Marles, about Australia’s defence capabilities. Subscribe: ab.co/3yqPOZ5
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 161

  • @kohnjelly
    @kohnjelly Рік тому +11

    David Spears frequently interrupts & rarely listens. A poor substitute for Barry Cassidy, he substitutes tenacity with belligerence.

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому

      He's a CIA install, he's purely there to say dumb and inflammatory shit to, literally try and inflame the brains of intelligent people so they sperg out on television and make themselves look unstable (classic technique for discrediting sensitive people, who are the most intelligent) and to put things into terms so simple that it has the dunning kruger effect on the most uneducated swathes of our population.

    • @lukejreid
      @lukejreid Рік тому +1

      Well said. I agree completely.

    • @dericofdorking
      @dericofdorking Рік тому

      100%

  • @doctorscoot
    @doctorscoot Рік тому +8

    On jobseeker they should first abolish the mutual obligations b.s. as it costs more to administer than it recovers in fraudulent claims. It’s dumb morality theatre and doesn’t help anyone. Just abolish the lot. Use the savings from this to increase the rate. Police through the tax system post-facto.

  • @sportsfanivosevic9885
    @sportsfanivosevic9885 Рік тому +16

    It's so logical, we need to militarise in order to protect our trade routes against our largest trading partner. Why did'nt I see this before?

    • @billw2126
      @billw2126 Рік тому +1

      finally, some common sense!

    • @heathdaemon2763
      @heathdaemon2763 Рік тому

      It's propaganda 100% from the abc.
      Supporting the war hawks in both the Labor and liberal party.
      Don't get me wrong I vote Labor.
      But the military long ago took over our foreign policy.
      The we may as well hand the keys to our military to the yanks

    • @jamesmaddox7507
      @jamesmaddox7507 3 місяці тому

      Policy makers have been saying this for 50 years. It has just taken 50 years to do anything, and they are still only half doing it.

  • @Kruse1
    @Kruse1 Рік тому +29

    The minister makes a lot of sense, I have more faith in this government than the former Scomo lead government.

    • @coolhandluke1503
      @coolhandluke1503 Рік тому

      They're a Globalist government and I voted Labor all my life

    • @sam-pq8pv
      @sam-pq8pv Рік тому +1

      Across the board better political performers and held to a standard!

    • @Kruse1
      @Kruse1 3 місяці тому

      @JimboJones-tf2sm Yeah nah they didn't live up to their potential. Labor used to be about the working class but they've thrown the working class under the bus ...not sure the Libs would have done any better/different.

  • @rsinclair6560
    @rsinclair6560 Рік тому +14

    Threat from who and why?
    The greatest risk to Australia is Australia itself and loss of environment, land, water, soil, air and hence any quality future sliding into an unrecoverable abyss. Therefore taking life and humanity with it.

    • @neilstleon6251
      @neilstleon6251 Рік тому +4

      Most realistic and honest comment I've seen. Thank christ Morrison is gone

    • @MRTY323
      @MRTY323 Рік тому +1

      Exactly.
      Whatever we have, we sell it gladly anyway. No one is trying to invade Australia to get some minerals.

  • @markl5990
    @markl5990 Рік тому +27

    Amy Remeikis was by far the most coherent on the DSR (I am not surprised).
    Reality is the only "risk" in the next 5 years (we don't really have any "threat") is war over Taiwan, and the ADF is of no deterrence to, or consequence in, that event.
    This is about managing "risks" not "threats", but that is a harder sell when we are "shaping the narrative" (i.e propaganda) as it implies we could be more rational, independent in our own interest.
    We could be a genuine actor for peace and stability in the region - not a divisive advocate of "strategic competition".

    • @Sailaboat
      @Sailaboat Рік тому +2

      Marles commentary is not in the best interest of Australia. Traitor.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Рік тому +3

      You're basically the west on holiday. If you like your life, your culture, your language, your sports and your freedom you will need to step up ✌️🇬🇧

    • @zen1647
      @zen1647 Рік тому +1

      Yeah, somehow the phrase 'not completely fit for purpose' become '*not* fit for purpose by the host. It's a relatively minor but extremely important adjustment to our defense position.

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому +3

      @@hmq9052 We don't need to "step up" You need to be cut down.

    • @sportsfanivosevic9885
      @sportsfanivosevic9885 Рік тому +7

      @@hmq9052 Does our culture require us to follow America into every war?

  • @YaMumsSpecialFriend
    @YaMumsSpecialFriend Рік тому +3

    I really have to say Spears’ constant interruptions and interjections are a bit over the line. Marbles was t prevaricating or being long winded, he was answering what was asked so stop the darn interrupting mate, for the viewers as much as guest.

  • @TheeChronicle
    @TheeChronicle Рік тому +5

    Hahaha when the institution is saying its not currently fit for purpose which means it needs more money then it's a conflict of interest.
    You need a independent study to say it's not up to scratch. Not the word of an industry that wants more money because of its own agenda.

    • @TheeChronicle
      @TheeChronicle Рік тому +2

      @Matty hahaha too small. We can defend this country. Our defense it strong enough. We have weapons and capabilities that the public don't even realise. It's definitely strong enough. And also invading Australia is declaration of world war 3. So most importantly though who the hell is going to invade Australia? Lol

  • @locuus7
    @locuus7 Рік тому +3

    If you don't up wages and skill sets for early childhood and aged care you will continue to see a lack of quality and further privatization. So much for the first 5 years being the most important developmentally... Low standards for immigration in these two areas is disastrous.

  • @Birch37
    @Birch37 Рік тому +2

    We are sitting on 3 years warning now. It takes Australia 15 years to build a warship and we have 1 month of fuel supply ffs

  • @lindsaybaker9480
    @lindsaybaker9480 Рік тому +4

    Sounds like amphibious capability will get a increase but then the further we operate away means the airforce is less able to protect naval assets when they get close to being out of range of land based fighter jets. They could easily buy one light carrier like a Japanese Izumo carrier modified to Australian needs which will allow close air support to naval assets within minutes not hours.

    • @dan7564
      @dan7564 Рік тому +3

      or even just another Canberra class with proper tarmac.

    • @lindsaybaker9480
      @lindsaybaker9480 Рік тому +1

      @@dan7564 a better alternative would be the 30,000 ton plus South Korean CVX which could have carried judging by the images 16 F35b plus several helicopters.

    • @hurrdurrmurrgurr
      @hurrdurrmurrgurr Рік тому

      Aircraft carriers are expensive to maintain white elephants which can no longer be protected from long range missiles. We need our own missile defences and subs. Anything else is an easy target.

    • @billw2126
      @billw2126 Рік тому +2

      called it! Next essential weapon after this is long-range stealth bombers? So where does the growth in weapon systems stop, and how much taxation are you prepared to accept to pay for it all?

    • @dan7564
      @dan7564 Рік тому

      @@billw2126 well there was a whole section that went out of it's way to say we weren't getting stealth bombers, so it stops right there.

  • @thebiglebowski4309
    @thebiglebowski4309 Рік тому +10

    Agree. The housing issue and negative gearing coupled with high immigration could really take Labor down.

    • @Nylandersaraus1
      @Nylandersaraus1 Рік тому +2

      And what are the Liberals or Greens going to do? Remember Labor went to an election with housing reforms and got beaten. I want housing sorted as a renter but the majority or people don’t unfortunately

  • @theaussiewhinger
    @theaussiewhinger Рік тому +4

    David Speers need to stop bloody interjecting and also stop making stupid comments and asking stupid questions.

  • @bigman23DOTS
    @bigman23DOTS Рік тому +5

    Our air lifters need to be utilised for more purposes ie more Hercules need rapid dragon including tomahawks….more chinooks with rapid dragon including tomahawk’s giving long range strike capability off lhds both these platforms we have and are proven we can easily get more and they have multiple uses!!!!

    • @MrSaltybloke
      @MrSaltybloke Рік тому

      That's exactly the kind of lateral thought that needs to happen. An increase in defense spending is unavoidable, but what is absolutely avoidable is the waste created by indecision and constantly changing direction. We need ACTION. Some actions smaller and incremental (like you mentioned), along with bigger structural investments in capabilities (including the ability to produce systems domestically). We need oversight on defense contracts, who owns the IP and where the taxes are paid on profits. We need partnerships with our neighbors to build things together (equipment we can't produce alone or in sufficient quantities to be viable). We need to leverage money already spent on existing platforms to expand their capabilities. We need our leaders to use their effing brains and show some courage in leadership and the media to take a genuine interest in our nation, rather than the sound of their own voices and the cha ching of dollars being made by superficial analysis of important issues.

  • @kyron42
    @kyron42 Рік тому +20

    If they want to get the budget back in the black no problem. Simply increase tax on the rich. A top marginal tax rate of 70% would be nice. Also they could introduce a land value tax which would help to keep property prices under control.

  • @Birch37
    @Birch37 Рік тому +2

    Reduce the 9 Hunter Class Frigets to 6 and increase the AWS Destroyers (Hobart Class) to 6 Destroyers

    • @tlevans62
      @tlevans62 Рік тому

      Exactly. Retire the older ANZACs and upgun the OPVs.

    • @MrSaltybloke
      @MrSaltybloke Рік тому +1

      add a couple of Canberra class that can support f35B

  • @wtfa2910
    @wtfa2910 Рік тому +5

    When was the last time this great enemy invaded another country

    • @ryanmalady376
      @ryanmalady376 Рік тому +6

      1970s when they invaded vietnam in the sino-vietnam war. if you count those border skirmishes with india when they sent an army unit the attack an indian base, then last year. then there is the regular threats to invade Taiwan they issue on an almost monthly basis. based on current rhetoric and actions one should not write them off

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому +1

      They do it every day inside the imaginations of Americans.

    • @wtfa2910
      @wtfa2910 Рік тому

      @@ryanmalady376 can you tell me how many countries the United States has invaded throughout the years

    • @rsinclair6560
      @rsinclair6560 Рік тому

      @@ryanmalady376 Sorry I'm not sure if you are saying China invaded Vietnam in the 1970's?

    • @hurrdurrmurrgurr
      @hurrdurrmurrgurr Рік тому +2

      @@rsinclair6560 In 1979 if you feel like looking it up.

  • @jameswhyard2858
    @jameswhyard2858 Рік тому +1

    Not one mention of the word satellite and we retain the M113 a non networked half century old olive drab cab! Strategic? BS...

  • @dodgygoose3054
    @dodgygoose3054 Рік тому +3

    What we need is CPU manufacturing here in Australia, we can't rely on Tawain .... & then America when its manufacturing is built.
    Everything these days has a CPU in it from cars to drones to radar even coffee machines have a cpu.

    • @Simon.the.Likeable
      @Simon.the.Likeable Рік тому +2

      No chance of Big Tech investing here. Bibi has it all going to Kiryat Gat. Intel and Microsoft execs are all Unit 8200 alumnis. They will eventually gut TSMC over the next five years and move it all to the USA and Israel.

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому

      America will not allow us to manufacture anything. We are blessed with abundance in Australia and would become the dominant economic power of the world overnight if we could shake their boot of our necks, hence why they slander and coup every competent labour politician and fund mass disinformation. Right now they've actually got the silt brains of this nation believing a boy who grew up in public housing is intent on doing nothing about the cost of living pressures our citizens are facing which in reality is a deliberate and sustained attack on Australia by the US.

    • @dodgygoose3054
      @dodgygoose3054 Рік тому +1

      @@Simon.the.Likeable Agree, but where does that leave Australia??? up shit's creek without a cpu.

    • @Simon.the.Likeable
      @Simon.the.Likeable Рік тому

      @@dodgygoose3054 Situation normal all ... up.

  • @boo20401
    @boo20401 4 місяці тому

    Why does David Spears interrupt his guests so often?
    It's a 50min show, plenty of time for time for long form interviews. Such frequent interruptions aren't necessary.
    Important topic, thanks for the show

  • @kevinkwok7626
    @kevinkwok7626 Рік тому +1

    talk talk talk..... in ten years will still talk talk talk again.... minimum action great talking.

  • @alexlanning712
    @alexlanning712 Рік тому

    Simple, the expenditure has to be better spent

  • @blizzard5657
    @blizzard5657 Рік тому +2

    They are going to have to have a review into the amount of reviews they need to waste our time and money on reviews, I always thought that our air force was our long range deterrence, I think that they can fly more than 300km to defend Australia, 😊

  • @brettmason3889
    @brettmason3889 Рік тому +1

    If the government want to do something to help people with financial stress how about knocking the expected 400,000 new immigrants this year on the head. This will solve two problems. Firstly it will make available accommodation for Australians living here and put a ceiling on rent. Secondly it will allow the RBA interest hikes to take a more immediate effect on reducing inflation. This is because the relative scarcity of properties will normalise due to less demand. big business are driving the push for more immigrants. This suits their purposes as it reduces their need to pay higher wages which are way overdue due to the previous governments active policy to deny pay rises. I don’t understand why commentators like yourselves are not driving this discussion?

  • @sunshinecoastrealestatepho9970

    Why are we advertising our position to potential enemies?

  • @Birch37
    @Birch37 Рік тому +3

    All talk. The review did nothing. Now there is another review for Navy. A first year University Student could of told you 15 years ago. We need to STOP going back to fundamentals. 2003 we sent ANZAC Class Frigets with a knife to a gun fight in Iraq. No one is listening FFS

  • @selwyn500
    @selwyn500 Рік тому +2

    We need an ADF that is able to be fluid and be well versed in Guerilla warfare.

  • @australianpatriot
    @australianpatriot Рік тому

    50:22 so funny...

  • @user-dz1ym8mb1s
    @user-dz1ym8mb1s 3 місяці тому

    Why would you get two of the guys who helped to create the ADFs problems to write a Review?

  • @furryfuzzy307
    @furryfuzzy307 Рік тому

    Doesn’t job seekers aka income support come with, rent assistance, parenting payments, telephone rebate, health care card etc.

  • @billw2126
    @billw2126 Рік тому +13

    Why are we still treating the South China Sea as if it is just off the coast of Australia? It is 4-5000km from Darwin. I can understand why the PRC is building up its defences; they are much more likely to be the subject of a threat to sea routes than Aus is. BTW, this concept of forward defence is a bit dodgy, leads to unfortunate Australian soldiers, sailors and aviators being killed a long way from home, usually as a minor player in a US or British conflict. Now we are being sold on the idea that 9 nuclear submarines will make the ADF "fit for purpose". Reminds me of the times when we were sold aircraft carriers and long-range bombers (F-111) because these were essential for defence. Honestly, in an age of inter-continental ballistic and nuclear missiles, all of this expense is probably a waste of our limited public resources. BTW, if the USA and UK are such strong allies, will they agree to decommission our nuclear subs and store the radioactive waste when the subs are withdrawn from service?

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому +3

      They will be fit for purpose, just not our own purpose.

    • @hmq9052
      @hmq9052 Рік тому +7

      From the British and American perspective we need Australia to start stepping up. A global conflict is more likely now.

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому

      ​@@hmq9052 Literally nobody allies with you without coercion. You're just a bunch of rich bullies pointing guns at the rest of the world.

    • @billw2126
      @billw2126 Рік тому +1

      @@hmq9052 what sort of global conflict?

    • @DA-of9sv
      @DA-of9sv Рік тому +2

      ​@@billw2126 well china's Rapidly military build up isn't for nothing is it??? 😂😂 australia is a juicy target of raw materials think about it!!!!

  • @BeerGutGuy
    @BeerGutGuy Рік тому

    You know labour is in government when the first 2 topics are defence cuts and increased funding for unemployed.

  • @susannahmonaghan7525
    @susannahmonaghan7525 Рік тому

    Get the Virginia subs here now!

  • @benjaminmitchell5345
    @benjaminmitchell5345 Рік тому +1

    Work with a Chinese or Indian munitions company will be quicker and cheaper

  • @billygibson2613
    @billygibson2613 5 місяців тому +1

    Australian defence must be stronger more stealthy defence's very long range hypasonic stealthy defence's for protecting all people in Australia

  • @billmago7991
    @billmago7991 Рік тому

    The Labor government need to govern for those who elected them, not just keep the status quo. Amy Remeikas knows this ...Albo????? Iam not too sure about

  • @selwyn500
    @selwyn500 Рік тому +1

    When CCP want to attack us we have to say, Not yet we're not ready, Come back after.😂

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому

      CCP has 0 interest in attacking us, they want to do business but our abusive boyfriends are in the way.

  • @davidwilkie9551
    @davidwilkie9551 Рік тому

    Sounds threatening alright.

  • @peterbluesman
    @peterbluesman Рік тому

    The threat is only as real as we wish to make it.

  • @keptinkaos6384
    @keptinkaos6384 Рік тому +2

    We needed to an Air force Navy dominant military, years ago the army is either doing one of two things disaster relief or playing mercenaries for the Americans.

  • @Matto_Harvo
    @Matto_Harvo 6 місяців тому

    That chick ain't gonna grab a rifle and defend Australian interests nor does she want to properly fund its defence. Nice

  • @DieselAddiction
    @DieselAddiction Рік тому

    The Defence Forces wouldn’t be in such a state if Labour didn’t cut defence budgets every time they got in government. It has created a deficit of capabilities and manpower.
    We definitely need too manufacture more in Australia and look after our own.
    Way too avoid answering questions clearly.

  • @paulfri1569
    @paulfri1569 Рік тому +1

    If you want peace 🕊️ Prepare for war 🛡️👌

  • @generaldamage3282
    @generaldamage3282 Рік тому +1

    Gees ABC I’m watching this to get some info on this and the host David just trying to score points in a word game against the defence minister. This is not an honest conversation,it’s about the host trying to show how ‘asking the tough questions’ he is. Nonsense and a waste of our time ABC

  • @jamieshields9521
    @jamieshields9521 Рік тому

    This was all over shop, I wish interviewer stop interrupting defence minister I couldn’t get straight answer about fleet future. If you going have panel of people, have some defence experts or expertise that know subject at hand.

  • @peterbluesman
    @peterbluesman Рік тому

    We can outsource some of the manufacturing to China.

  • @vaskodimoski5690
    @vaskodimoski5690 Рік тому +1

    Just buy a few nukes it works for everyone else no one will mess with you🎉

  • @benjaminmitchell5345
    @benjaminmitchell5345 Рік тому

    The potential for that coercion going forward is much more significant...US foreign policy is an aggressive and coercive beast. Resist it

  • @debbymcmartin4791
    @debbymcmartin4791 Рік тому

    David Speers leaves a lot be on the table in informing the Australian people. His trolling is obvious.

  • @sarcasmo57
    @sarcasmo57 Рік тому

    Good luck with it all.

  • @sheep.herder
    @sheep.herder Рік тому +7

    cheaper to be known as a peaceful nation

  • @DieselAddiction
    @DieselAddiction Рік тому

    Labour is dumping all the older outdated vehicles on Ukraine. M113 etc.

  • @colinlee9678
    @colinlee9678 Рік тому

    Astronomical rather than normal annual increases in defence spendings need to be justified by full transparency to the taxpayers on provable evidence of who is identified as the one threatrning an actual war to Australia! Otherwise all these military spendings are on a fantasy war threat which is not how to run a country's finances!
    Where is the provable evidence of external economic coercion?
    In actual fact , if there were any real economic coercion , how would you use tools of war to deal with an economic matter, a somewhat ill-conceived political idea with no precedent that it will work! Since when does using tools of war to resolve economic issues is the solution? It seems that the these politicians will never learn !

  • @peterbluesman
    @peterbluesman Рік тому +3

    What we need to do in Australia is to have a detailed review of the option to not participate in a U.S. lead war against China. We need to secure ourselves against any backlash we could get from our former allies.

  • @rsinclair6560
    @rsinclair6560 Рік тому

    I think people should research the life of Benjamin Ferencz and listen hard. LAWS NOT WARS.

    • @leonie563
      @leonie563 Рік тому

      Which one?
      Planethood
      Less than Slaves
      Parting Words?

    • @rsinclair6560
      @rsinclair6560 Рік тому

      @@leonie563 Prosecution laywer in Nuremberg

  • @debbymcmartin4791
    @debbymcmartin4791 Рік тому

    Tax the multi millionaires and billionaires and close all the loopholes.

  • @BeerGutGuy
    @BeerGutGuy Рік тому

    Marles wasted the budget on nuclear submarines, now we can't afford artillery and ifv's.......

  • @mikesam888
    @mikesam888 Рік тому +11

    So it’s fine for the US to have a large military force, but not fine for China, now the World’s largest economy to build up by their defenses, in the face of US imperialism, constant war mongering and vile threats to go to war? The US far outspends China in it’s military budget every year by several multiples. Let’s understand when last China was actually involved in a war, then let’s count how many government coups, wars and invasions the US has been involved in over the past 80 years!!! The answer is every single one of them. Such hypocrisy! Australia needs to stop being the US’s flunkie! As an Aussie I’m totally embarrassed about our belligerent right wing geopolitical policies and anti China rhetoric. Someone please get Keating to knock some sense into our current government and media!

    • @sportsfanivosevic9885
      @sportsfanivosevic9885 Рік тому +1

      There is a recent Jimmy Dore Show - 'Australian TV accidentally shows the US war menace'. They displayed a map of the world with the locations of US bases and the densest concentrations outside of America were located around China. We all know who the real aggressor is.

    • @rsinclair6560
      @rsinclair6560 Рік тому

      Well said and well researched.

    • @baseypom6545
      @baseypom6545 Рік тому

      Well said. Someone pls tell Peter Archer (try hard China hawk) who relentlessly keeps repeating " the rapid buildup of military hardware in decades", what planet is he from? Obviously, a growing economy like China has every justification to defend its territory especially with the USA openly antagonizing and creating alliances to contain China.

    • @JoshyStuart
      @JoshyStuart Рік тому

      I'm really far left on almost all topics and have protested against US led wars (particularly Iraq 2) in the past. So not exactly a war hawk or right wing stooge.
      But just because the US have been badly behaved in the past, and China has largely focussed inward (with the exception of border disputes with India, Japan, Russia and now the South China Sea...... and invading Tibet...), the large build up of their assets in the South China Sea, the threatening rhetoric against Taiwan and their tacit support of Russian's invasion of Ukraine, is a very worrying trajectory!
      So my advice, don't look at the past 80 years, but look at the last 10. There's a marked change in the Xi era.
      What really pisses me off is that the right will use this to scare monger and win votes, and as a reflexive response, the left will characterise it as typical right wing hawkishness and racism and not want to do anything.
      IMO the threat is real, and we should prepare by increasing deterrence, ensuring energy independence (more renewables, fuel and gas reserves), increasing local manufacturing on vital goods and diversify our exports. The majority of these things don't involve the military, but some do.

  • @benjaminmitchell5345
    @benjaminmitchell5345 Рік тому +2

    Amy talking sense as usual..."The threat" to be clear is from our involvement with the United States international adventurism project... who are we fighting when and how? Indeed Peter.

  • @HS-PGA
    @HS-PGA Рік тому +1

    Ask Amy the millenial denialism oh no no there’s no risk of threat,🌈🌈🦄🦄🦄🦄

  • @kongking5048
    @kongking5048 Рік тому +1

    Every one should listen what Paul Keating said in national express!!

  • @kongking5048
    @kongking5048 Рік тому

    Australia is a country far from anywhere, everywhere and surrounded by the ocean literally. No one could invade Australia but Indonesia. So stay neutral is the best option.

  • @ericcoskun1
    @ericcoskun1 Рік тому +3

    Let the drumbeats of war push us further into unnecessary conflict especially when its the US beating the drums and poor Aussies being used as footsoldiers/lapdogs.

  • @gimpsgonewild
    @gimpsgonewild Рік тому

    11:30 correct! Globalization dose not work.
    Make a 35% import tax, on all imports.
    Drop the company tax to 0% for all manufacturers
    Time to buy back Holden, make cars here again.
    Incentives to Reopen the closed ship yards in Melbourne and Perth
    Incentives to reopen the oil and LPG refineries
    Mandate all petrol cars sold from 2030, new & used to be LPG only.

  • @edburke7998
    @edburke7998 Рік тому

    Apparently we need all this shit because of one man . Xi.

  • @furryfuzzy307
    @furryfuzzy307 Рік тому

    If the people who can work and don’t try and rely on income support then they would also benefit from the stage 3 tax cuts.

    • @locuus7
      @locuus7 Рік тому

      the stage 3 tax cuts benefit the very few

  • @coolhandluke1503
    @coolhandluke1503 Рік тому

    We should have nothing to do with the conflict between Russia and Ukraine let alone wasting resources on it

  • @questioneryusef8264
    @questioneryusef8264 Рік тому

    Elon said population collapse is the problem. Where would immigration come from? You dont need long range missile. What we need is long range thinking. Where would China get their immigrants. Food for thought.

    • @Jasmine69420
      @Jasmine69420 Рік тому

      Elon's parents owned an apartheid emerald mine in South Africa. He's not intelligent, just rich and surrounded by ego strokers and capitalist sycophants.