Top 10 Favorite Rule Breaking Films

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  • Опубліковано 27 лип 2024
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    Sometimes it feels like every movie that comes out is the same and that’s why it’s so great when a film can shake things up and look at cinema in new and unexpected ways, breaking filmmaking rules to give us something different.
    What did you think of the list? Do you disagree with any of our picks? Feel like we left out or mis-represented any of the films? What film that break traditional filmmaking rules is your favorite? Which makes you uncomfortable?
    What other topics would you like to see us cover in future editions of CineFix Movie Lists?
    Let us know in the comments!
    THE LIST
    Invisible Filmmaking - Dogville
    It's not as much breaking the 4th wall as it is demolishing all of them, but the effect is exactly the same. It's a constant reminder to the audience that what they're looking at ISN'T REAL.
    Editing Rules - Breathless
    When everyone was trying to make you forget about editing and cuts and believe that movies were real, Godard was chopping up his film and throwing them right in your face, bringing the very artifice of editing right to the forefront with the jump cut.
    Shooting Rules - Tokyo Story
    The most important rule of all is called the "180 degree rule" and it's a shooting guideline for establishing a dependable screen geography. Although this kind of screen continuity pervades almost every film you could have seen in theaters for the past CENTURY, Yasujiro Ozu tossed it out the window
    Colors / Visual Style - Enter the Void
    Enter the Void used lighting and camera and visual effects in a way unlike anything ever before it. The story is an out of body POV experience in more ways than one, and an absolute visual revelation in terms of how to view the world.
    Genre - From Dusk til Dawn
    A quick-talking Tarantino-esque crime film STARRING Tarantino and a fresh-from-TV Clooney, From Dusk til Dawn makes it just about halfway through without a single undead, before quickly pivoting into the kind of balls-out actiony-vampire-shoot-em-up that's pure Rodriguez.
    The Hero / Protagonist - Psycho
    Hitchcock purposefully set out to mislead his audience and then devastate them, like an old-timey George RR Martin. He used their expectations against them, carefully cueing them to invest in Marion Crane as the hero of the film, before stabbing them in the metaphorical heart.
    Story Structure - Last Year in Marienbad
    Truth, fiction, time, place, logic and cause all fold in on themselves, creating an escher-like narrative structure that refuses to be linearized in any kind of story map.
    Having a Story at All - Jeanne Dielman, vingt-trois quai du Commerce, mille-quatre-vingt Bruxelles
    The film is honest about life in a way most others are not. It does not select the fascinating. It does not focus on the important. It does not trim the fat.
    Coherence / Causality - The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie
    It is a bizarre storyworld where anything can happen, asking us all to interrogate our own logical assumptions, and those of of the stories we consume daily.
    Linguistic vs Emotional Storytelling - The Mirror
    Images speak, but not in words or symbols. They do not attempt to convey to us logic or language or concrete plot. But instead thoughts, emotions, memories in the abstract. Before processing and verbalization.
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  • @poutinedavid8937
    @poutinedavid8937 7 років тому +2260

    CineFix is *made* of "Top 10" lists. It's too bad a video list on rule-breaking wasn't a "Top 11" video.

    • @BGlynn315
      @BGlynn315 5 років тому +52

      Opportunity missed for sure!

    • @Arbatov
      @Arbatov 5 років тому +27

      Man, I just remembered hanging out with a buddy of mine at Big Boy making top ten lists for favorite all time movies. We agreed to make an extra slot at 8 1/2. Feels like a lifetime ago.

    • @bakedutah8411
      @bakedutah8411 5 років тому +62

      J. David, ah yes, good old rule _852: Whenever you make a video _*_about_*_ breaking rules, make sure the video _*_itself_*_ breaks a rule._ Yeah, they decided to break that rule.

    • @cristonsloan
      @cristonsloan 5 років тому +19

      @@bakedutah8411 Haha. Well saved there. You should be in Politics.

    • @totallybored5526
      @totallybored5526 5 років тому +4

      Or bill it as a Top 10 list and only have 2 entries, 1 book and 1 barnyard animal. And make 0 references to the weirdness

  • @Njorl
    @Njorl 5 років тому +349

    "And topping our list of the top 10 westerns of all time is Tarkovsky's 'The Mirror', because it's just that good."

    • @philswift1252
      @philswift1252 4 роки тому +16

      Njorl it’s a better pick than Star Wars

    • @thatahamoment497
      @thatahamoment497 4 роки тому +7

      It is the best film ever

    • @dragmio
      @dragmio 4 роки тому +5

      @@thatahamoment497 IMHO it's too hermetic, too personal. You literally have to know a lot of things about the private life of the director to be able to make any sense of it. But it does have the best ending of all time.

    • @AK-tw7uq
      @AK-tw7uq 3 роки тому +11

      Cinefix: Now for our number one pick we’re going to take a look at the surrealist...
      Me: Ah shit here we go again

    • @dragmio
      @dragmio 3 роки тому

      @@AK-tw7uq There are probably many top 10 lists of Lollywood drivel. Why don't you head that way?

  • @gabe_s_videos
    @gabe_s_videos 7 років тому +300

    The best description of "From Dusk Till Dawn" I've ever heard is "it's like two completely different movies scotch-taped together in the middle."

    • @rogerkomula8057
      @rogerkomula8057 4 роки тому +3

      It's two dudes giving each other a handie.

    • @grolfe3210
      @grolfe3210 4 роки тому +5

      I would put money on it being that the first half (pre zombie) was the film (it works on its own and resolves the setup as they get over the border), but then they realise they only have 50 minutes of film - so hey lets throw in a zombie massacre!

    • @theblazinggamer57
      @theblazinggamer57 4 роки тому +2

      You could say the exact same thing about parasite

    • @gooondie
      @gooondie 4 роки тому +1

      Kinda like Full Metal Jacket

  • @Aoi_Haru763
    @Aoi_Haru763 4 роки тому +50

    Honorable mentions: Love Exposure, M Butterfly, Angel's Egg, Mulholland Drive, Avalon, Monsieur Verdoux, An Elephant Sitting Still, Three Colours: Red, The Cook the Thief His Wife and Her Lover.

    • @Rar830
      @Rar830 4 роки тому +2

      Bless

    • @buried4430
      @buried4430 3 роки тому

      Add Tetsuo the Iron Man

    • @thedude3853
      @thedude3853 2 роки тому

      Love Exposure is AWESOME 👌

  • @GnosticAtheist
    @GnosticAtheist 8 років тому +698

    You forgot the Transformers saga. To this day I cannot understand its plot.

    • @JohnDoe-qx3zs
      @JohnDoe-qx3zs 8 років тому +25

      It's a movie version of a series of plastic toys that had a made up fictional world in marketing media more than a decade ago. I guess the movies are for young people immersed in that universe in their childhoods, assuming those are now old enough to enjoy the non-children elements added. Note: I never watched the movies or the original stuff, just saw it existed and was told about it.

    • @anantambisht4895
      @anantambisht4895 5 років тому +2

      😂

    • @christianjadot4459
      @christianjadot4459 4 роки тому +10

      They are more than meets the eye.

    • @isotopefeeney
      @isotopefeeney 4 роки тому +4

      Because there is none

    • @sacramentalist
      @sacramentalist 4 роки тому +5

      me: "wait, why are they on the pyramids? WHAT IS GOING ON?"

  • @MizzNijna
    @MizzNijna 8 років тому +814

    I love that Ceniefix, although being an American channel, isn't so focused on american movie making as any other movie channel from the US, that they see that good movies can be made outside of the states and gives credit where credit is due.

    • @ingriddubbel8468
      @ingriddubbel8468 4 роки тому +61

      They also realize movies were made before 1990.

    • @mantistoboggan5171
      @mantistoboggan5171 4 роки тому +26

      that seems to be classic behaviour of americans ost of the time anyway.
      remaining completely ignorant of the entire world, yet calling the usa and its products the greatest.

    • @johnorme9195
      @johnorme9195 4 роки тому +1

      I believe they are Canadian - I couldbe wrong

    • @HAL--gb6uf
      @HAL--gb6uf 3 роки тому +1

      @William Tuttle lol joker isn't that great lol

    • @sameerahmed-gx8js
      @sameerahmed-gx8js 3 роки тому +2

      @William Tuttle buddy you put 2001 space and joker in the same sentence.... Why??

  • @bertdutchie
    @bertdutchie 7 років тому +400

    I feel so uncultured when they reference all these foreign films.

    • @thorn262
      @thorn262 4 роки тому +104

      How lucky you are. You get to experience them for the first time!

    • @gaurav.anirbandutta
      @gaurav.anirbandutta 4 роки тому +9

      @@thorn262 Exactly

    • @adr.marius5636
      @adr.marius5636 4 роки тому +14

      @@thorn262brilliant way to put it

    • @aslan9334
      @aslan9334 4 роки тому +3

      I have watch some foreign movies because i have always been interested in not only American movies

    • @laurahall2710
      @laurahall2710 4 роки тому +2

      I think I saw a cut version of the Tarantino movie, there DEFINITELY was not a loaded crotch on the version I saw!! BOOM!

  • @digiholic
    @digiholic 7 років тому +457

    Man, I always thought I was a pretty big film buff, but watching this and seeing almost every entry going to a movie I've never even heard of shows me how much there is that I haven't yet seen.

    • @loopverse1
      @loopverse1 6 років тому +3

      me too

    • @LucaMelchionna-lmelk
      @LucaMelchionna-lmelk 6 років тому +14

      Same here, and every single time I got to watch one of them, they're invariably awesome

    • @lwendzib7297
      @lwendzib7297 5 років тому +2

      sameeee

    • @rodneykingston6420
      @rodneykingston6420 5 років тому +16

      These (mostly) are movies you would not want to see or could not sit through all the way. They're Art films with a capital A. Not even meant to be entertaining.

    • @CitizenToxie72
      @CitizenToxie72 5 років тому +68

      These are all well known films lol you're not a film buff just cuz u saw pulp fiction and taxi driver

  • @antonk6359
    @antonk6359 8 років тому +667

    *Interviewer:* "But surely, monsieur Godard, you at least believe a film should have a beginning, middle and end?"
    *Godard:* "Yes, but not necessarily in that order."

    • @JaegerMatthias
      @JaegerMatthias 7 років тому +110

      "...and please don't call me Shirley".

    • @theresaivy9858
      @theresaivy9858 7 років тому +15

      Matt Redman yeah airplane references. always welcomed. always

    • @antihinduismisbased
      @antihinduismisbased 6 років тому +12

      @stellvia hoenheim
      Godard - Sorry my friend, but thinking that what I say is something that is being done just for the sake of it..... that's retarded.
      Godard punches right back at the interviewer

    • @55bueller
      @55bueller 5 років тому +2

      Anton K Godard was a huge influence on Tarantino!

    • @antihinduismisbased
      @antihinduismisbased 5 років тому

      @@55bueller exactly. I've noticed that too.

  • @koa1567
    @koa1567 8 років тому +194

    *Before video* "Fuck me up CineFix!"

    • @koa1567
      @koa1567 8 років тому +164

      *After video* Officially fucked up

  • @nin10dorox
    @nin10dorox 7 років тому +41

    That movie about the people trying to eat is just like dreams I've had.

  • @MrSoulSimon
    @MrSoulSimon 6 років тому +18

    Glad to see "Last Year at Marienbad" on the list. I was 18 when I first saw it, and it influenced forever the way I looked at films.Hitchcock had previously done the same disorienting effect he used in "Psycho" with "Vertigo", which is my favourite film of all time.

    • @Chernobog34
      @Chernobog34 2 роки тому +1

      To this day, I can't understand Last Year at Marienbad, and I think that's the point. It's such a unique story, and one that almost defies categorization.

  • @-.leah.-
    @-.leah.- 8 років тому +164

    I didn't know I wanted to see so many films before CineFix!

  • @mydogiscalledoscar
    @mydogiscalledoscar 8 років тому +74

    I went to see Dogville in the cinema and I've never seen so many people leave in the first 15 minutes of a movie in all my years.
    It's also one of the only film I've ever seen being awarded applause at the end.
    They shoulda stayed.

    • @blatherskite3009
      @blatherskite3009 3 роки тому +8

      Funnily enough, I had exactly the same experience with Terry Gilliam's "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas" - I've never seen so many people get up and leave during a film, but those that stayed gave it a standing ovation at the end ... and this was in the UK where cinema audiences don't usually do that sort of thing :)

    • @boythee4193
      @boythee4193 3 роки тому +5

      because Dogville is so stark. it's hard to adjust to it

    • @Pancrasio-it9qd
      @Pancrasio-it9qd 2 роки тому

      @@blatherskite3009 😎

  • @jamesanderton8817
    @jamesanderton8817 4 роки тому +16

    I have always felt that the lack of set in Dogville was a device to further the narrative that this is about human nature... not a specific story happening in a specific place.

  • @deadswan
    @deadswan 7 років тому +103

    surpised you guys didn't mention the Iranian New Wave in this. Abbas Kiarostami, Jafar Panahi, and Mohsen Makhmalbaf specifically. Their films were dramatized but many of the "actors" went off script and began doing things that were never intended to be filmed, switching the drama into a documentary. Also incredibly interesting that they would cast the actual people involved in the dramatized situation as themselves and they reacted in their own way of perceiving the story of their lives.

    • @ongogablogian
      @ongogablogian 4 роки тому +5

      Close-Up really is a staggering work.

    • @inigojuancarlos
      @inigojuancarlos 4 роки тому +3

      The Italian neo-realism has been doing that style ages ago. But I have to agree on the current renaissance of Iran’s film industry not just Iran but also South Korea and Lebanon

    • @Niceandshiny
      @Niceandshiny 4 роки тому +1

      That sounds incredible thank you I'll check it out

    • @Kieslowski1989
      @Kieslowski1989 Рік тому

      Close-up is too good. It just shows the class of Abbas Kiarostami. He used some techniques that gods like Godard, Truffaut, Kurosawa, Ozu used.

    • @nicolasbls1738
      @nicolasbls1738 Рік тому

      All new wave movements around the world broke the rules of cinema. You can't just put them all.

  • @dosvecesjaime
    @dosvecesjaime 8 років тому +36

    I started watching this video thinking you had run out of ideas, but it ended up being one of the most enjoyable top tens you've made.

  • @hassaanmirza4628
    @hassaanmirza4628 8 років тому +18

    This is one of those lists where I have seen almost none of the films listed but now I really want to. Thanks Cinefix, for bringing some awesome stuff to our attention.

  • @HalfManThirdBiscuit
    @HalfManThirdBiscuit 6 років тому +44

    This entire channel is merely a ruse to get me to buy The Mirror, isn't it.

    • @Rar830
      @Rar830 4 роки тому +1

      Pretty much

  • @alshahriardihan1976
    @alshahriardihan1976 5 років тому +35

    I wanted to see "Mirror" as the number one..
    I'm not disappointed :D

  • @GMoneyChuck89
    @GMoneyChuck89 6 років тому +16

    Jeanne Dielman is almost four hours of nothing, but I have to admit I was fascinated the entire time.

  • @miguelpereira9859
    @miguelpereira9859 6 років тому +17

    Thank you CineFix, for doing lists that aren't based on popularity and actually educate us.

  • @jeremylethco4303
    @jeremylethco4303 Рік тому +4

    Great list, as always. Personally, I remember being truly shaken by the fourth wall breaks in Michael Haneke's Funny Games and in particular the remote control scene.

  • @matthewsawczyn6592
    @matthewsawczyn6592 5 років тому +3

    No Country For Old Men basically does the Psycho twist with its ending. That's why it divided audiences. We were expecting a shootout, and got a totally different thesis.

  • @h3rshel
    @h3rshel 8 років тому +8

    Perhaps a "Top 10 Favourite Use of Music in Films" list?
    You can bring together the use of film scores, songs written for film that take off, theatre/opera's transition to films, etc.

  • @pajajovanovic4791
    @pajajovanovic4791 8 років тому +251

    OK I have to ask, which one of you guys likes the mirror so much? The movie is on like half of your lists! Is it Clint?! I bet it's Clint!

    • @CineFix
      @CineFix  8 років тому +102

      Clint is the narrator, but he's not the one who writes our Movie Lists.

    • @bejarny8636
      @bejarny8636 8 років тому +2

      +CineFix you don't tell me that

    • @Archangel125
      @Archangel125 8 років тому +57

      +CineFix May I ask who does? They do an excellent job. I always assumed it was a collaborative democratic thing with the whole team but you make it sound like it's one person.

    • @clichyx
      @clichyx 8 років тому +20

      Because is the best film ever :)

    • @devilzdandruff9199
      @devilzdandruff9199 8 років тому

      +Andres Gtz lol.. Right.

  • @IamRogue22
    @IamRogue22 Рік тому +3

    Love your site! I’ve learned so much in terms of how to examine and inspect my favorite films and what story they are attempting to tell. I have a suggestion for a list. Top 20 beautiful Heroines. Not just judged by only beauty; but intelligence, charm, wit, humor, flirting, smile.

  • @noodlesnchill
    @noodlesnchill 7 років тому +18

    I was literally thinking about Luis Bunuel and thought "I wonder if Cinefix has even seen his work". Bravo!!

    • @haades33
      @haades33 4 роки тому

      One would have to make a top 10 of Bunuel films first! Then start with the rest.

  • @vb2388
    @vb2388 8 років тому +58

    In terms of Cinematography, Mirror has to be the greatest movie of all time. Almost every scene from that film could be turned into a painting. "The Burning House" is the most beautiful shot I have ever seen in a movie 💙

    • @dantebad
      @dantebad 8 років тому +6

      Mirror has that "WoW" effect on almost every frame of the movie. Its poetry made cinema. i would love to see some day a film directed by Tarkovsky, Lars Von Trier and Mallick with Lubezki in the art direction photography.

    • @futuropasado
      @futuropasado 7 років тому +3

      Agreed 100%. My favorite movie and thats my favorite scene, beyond words, unlike anything.

  • @dapamico1
    @dapamico1 8 років тому +8

    Awesome list. "Aguirre, the Wrath of God", "Blow Up", and "Weekend" turned my thinking about movies upside down when I first saw them.

  • @angelik999
    @angelik999 7 років тому

    A couple of weeks ago one of your videos came out in my recommended videos section. I started watching your channel and I have to say, I'm so thankful for whatever algorithm brought me here.

  • @aurelienfrancois
    @aurelienfrancois 8 років тому +18

    would have loved to see Jacques Tati's Playtime in the list

  • @joshuaprice3965
    @joshuaprice3965 8 років тому +58

    Great choices, but I have to give a shout out for Persona, and not just because it's my favourite film of all time but because the way Bergman literally broke the film in order to create the impression of a fractured mind and melding personalities as well as his bizarre montages and multiple layers of symbolism broke just about every rule there was. I feel like Synechdoche, New York would have been a good choice as well. I'm not even a massive fan of that movie put the massive amount of layers Kaufman wove into that story, it's take on art and death as well as the way it perceived reality and dreams was truly rule breaking.

    • @rjnagle
      @rjnagle 7 років тому +9

      Agreed! Persona is an obvious choice; it broke so many rules: the interrupted film, the repetition of a scene, discontinuities of sound and image, the introductory scene with a boy who has nothing to do with the rest of the film. Should I go on?

    • @MAQUIYA
      @MAQUIYA 5 років тому

      Persona is the best film of all time, no doubt of that.

    • @mybldyvlntn
      @mybldyvlntn 5 років тому +1

      Yay love to see so many people agreeing that Persona is unmatched. An absolute masterpiece.

    • @maciek8159
      @maciek8159 3 роки тому

      @@antihinduismisbased is the boy the son of the lady?

  • @jamesmillington4711
    @jamesmillington4711 8 років тому +20

    And funny enough, Robert Rodriguez got the idea for Dusk till Dawn, from watching Predator. And seeing how Predator went from a military Action film to a Thriller.

  • @samuelward1148
    @samuelward1148 5 років тому +1

    This is my favorite list you've EVER done... PLEASE do a part 2!!!

  • @gram0021
    @gram0021 5 років тому

    Man Cinafix, I really got to thank you for all your videos. I can't stop watching them. Y'all have given me so much insight when it comes to story telling and that knowledge is everything. Thank you.

  • @keffypoo
    @keffypoo 8 років тому +7

    What a list. I love this channel, but I was not expecting one such as this. Surprise is too rare a feeling on this medium, so let me thank you.

  • @calorieboots
    @calorieboots 8 років тому +4

    Love this list! I think my favorite rule-breaking incidents are the short, sweet, unexplained ones that come and go just as quickly. Funny Games, Medium Cool, and Computer Chess all spring to mind.

  • @hymen0callis
    @hymen0callis 4 роки тому +19

    "Lola rennt" / "Run Lola Run" is heavily inspired by Kieslowski's "Blind Chance" (1987), which I cannot recommend highly enough.

    • @aslan9334
      @aslan9334 4 роки тому +1

      I rented Run Lola Run having no idea what it was about and ❤ it!
      I actually have Blind Change on my watchlist - will check it out soon!

    • @antihinduismisbased
      @antihinduismisbased 3 роки тому +1

      Oh yeah. Blind chance is great.

  • @JuanCarlosSandino
    @JuanCarlosSandino 6 років тому

    This was not only educational as hell (as always) but beautiful as well. Though I know how much you revere the first, that was unexpected. It's moving to find how a shared love can be expressed. Wow for that.

  • @golu_badbola
    @golu_badbola 8 років тому +9

    so early i'm watching this in 1080p///
    thanks for the incredible effort you put in these lists, Cinefix!!

  • @Cybjon
    @Cybjon 8 років тому +8

    Andrei Tarkovsky is so good, I have to watch his films over and over to convince myself they actually exist outside of my dreams.

  • @chipblock2854
    @chipblock2854 5 років тому

    One thing I like about your videos is you keep them going. That is, a lot of you tube videos are slow moving with a lot of dead time in between scenes. Thanks for the videos and not insulting me with dead space. Oh and no computer generated voices either.

  • @DrRestezi
    @DrRestezi 7 років тому +192

    Personally, I would've had 2001 in the #1 slot. It trashed almost every rule in the book, including having no dialogue for the first 40 minutes, jumping forward 3 million years with an associative edit, having no main human characters, making space travel super boring--until the arrival of the Stargate. Which turns it into the Most Expensive Experimental Movie ever made. And a totally mindfuck ending to top all MF endings. And people are still arguing about WTF it means.

    • @flavc.1921
      @flavc.1921 6 років тому +6

      DrRestezi I’m glad someone was able to sum up most of my thoughts about 2001!

    • @carlosfandango2419
      @carlosfandango2419 4 роки тому +2

      It's a little 'clinical' for some tastes.

    • @carlosfandango2419
      @carlosfandango2419 4 роки тому +3

      @daniel letterman 'evolving to extinction', say what?? The monolith taught one group how to use tools and that's how they gained a superior role at the waterhole. Using tools brings dexterity which leads to greater tool use...…. Then we show up in the evolutionary chain.
      We all know the story, it's plain to see. Maybe what you don't know is 2001 was written after the movie, maybe look into that.

    • @myman7589
      @myman7589 4 роки тому +1

      @@carlosfandango2419 You should just go watch soap operas if all you're really looking for is an A/V representation of conventional storytelling.
      2001 has an unclear plot? A muddled narration or an overly clinical one? The hell does that matter? It's a movie, not a fairytale.

    • @pgreenlief
      @pgreenlief 4 роки тому +1

      @daniel letterman agreed - if 2001 gets any of the nods here, it's for best jump cut (ape weapon becomes spaceship).

  • @twocentscinema8587
    @twocentscinema8587 8 років тому +198

    Mulholland Dr. where for the entire first half of the film, we are given a story, characters, and information and, then, in the second half, the first half is completely thrown out the window and the characters and information that we were given has changed.

    • @technodroog
      @technodroog 8 років тому +28

      it wasn't "completely thrown out of the window" by any stretch

    • @technodroog
      @technodroog 8 років тому +15

      getting obsessed with following me around with your dumb comments ah? knock yourself out

    • @peddleandcrank
      @peddleandcrank 8 років тому +1

      +Culprit LA obsessed? me?
      you are the clown replying to every comment on here.
      as if you know anything.
      yes you are obsessed

    • @technodroog
      @technodroog 8 років тому +19

      at least i reply to videos, not foam at the mouth chasing another person in comments calling them pathetic low grade insults like you. Loser

    • @Kadenian
      @Kadenian 8 років тому +12

      I am agree with Culprit. It is not "completely thrown out of the window", the second part of the film it is placed before the events of the first part, the tricky thing is that Naomi Watts interpret two different characters, and the joke about the pool and the pool cleaner, really get to accomplish the goal of confuse the audience. But as it is said in the film: "No hay banda".
      It must have been included in the list.

  • @willcooke5308
    @willcooke5308 8 років тому +17

    FMJ was originally gonna have Psycho's protagonist twist. In the first cut, Joker was gonna be killed by Pyle and it would then switch to a G.I. already in 'Nam. Whilst that would have been interesting to see, the main theme of FMJ is the dehumanisation of the "Boy Next Door", and staying with the characters all through out achieves it's goal, in my opinion.

    • @kieranl5249
      @kieranl5249 8 років тому

      I always thought it was "the duality of Man"

    • @TheThelaughingboy
      @TheThelaughingboy 8 років тому

      Not at all Ciaran! Kubrick was a visual artist, he wouldn't spell out the point of his film with dialogue

    • @djvoldemort1
      @djvoldemort1 6 років тому

      Only Kubrick could make a movie where the two most interesting characters aren't in half the movie, but it's still a masterpiece.

  • @garyburkin
    @garyburkin 4 роки тому +9

    Rule 1 of Making a Good Film: You do not have to rush wildly through the plot, filling every space, divot and hole with noise and dialogue to keep people interested.

  • @MrPoppaGeorgio
    @MrPoppaGeorgio 6 років тому +2

    I'm really thankful for this channel. Thank you for all that y'all do. It is super awesome that y'all take the art form serious yet it is still enjoyable unlike that dreadful cinema sins channel

  • @mothersbasement
    @mothersbasement 8 років тому +263

    weird not to see any Charlie Kaufman films on here. Anything he's written would be a good honourable mention under surrealism, and I honestly think Synecdoche New York should have topped the nonlinear storytelling category.
    I haven't seen the French film you were talking up - and I'm sure it's great in its own right - but Synecdoche breaks time and space in such a seamless manner that each time it happens you need a few minutes to catch on. it's an absolute triumph.

    • @zinhoferraz13
      @zinhoferraz13 8 років тому +28

      Fellini did it first with 8 1/2 so Kauffman did nothing now, other then stealing other peoples work and ideias

    • @zinhoferraz13
      @zinhoferraz13 8 років тому

      +Zinh0 *new

    • @DigitalDelta5
      @DigitalDelta5 8 років тому

      I agree 100%

    • @lololFilip
      @lololFilip 8 років тому +34

      Kaufman breaks the rules, sure, but he's never been at the forefront to do so (not that Resnais was the first to, either, but Kaufman was a toddler when Marienbad was released). I don't disagree about Synecdoche, New York being great (I personally love it), but Last Year at Marienbad takes it a whole lot further. there is still a linear narrative to S, NY whereas Marienbad is all over the place and simultaneously nowhere. you should seek it out, it's great.

    • @chadrickjared
      @chadrickjared 8 років тому +2

      I agree, the constant change in time without warning was very unique

  • @LakeVermilionDreams
    @LakeVermilionDreams 8 років тому +47

    There's definitely a difference between cinefix top 10s and watchmojo's! Thanks for introducing me to some excellent movies!

  • @shelleynobleart
    @shelleynobleart 5 років тому

    Superb content. Thank you so much. The writing of the narration was unusual for its sophistication and the delivery of it bright.

  • @xaviconde
    @xaviconde 5 років тому +43

    I'd add Terry Gilliam's movies, where reality and fantasy are always blending, as in 'The adventures of Baron Munchausen'.

    • @amojak
      @amojak 4 роки тому +1

      lest we forget the accountancy mini movie at the beginning of the meaning of life

    • @laustcawz2089
      @laustcawz2089 4 роки тому +1

      ...or his latest
      " The Man Who Killed Don Quixote".

    • @gengis737
      @gengis737 3 роки тому

      or 'Brazil'

    • @Pancrasio-it9qd
      @Pancrasio-it9qd 2 роки тому

      😎

  • @Bajuszba
    @Bajuszba 8 років тому +16

    #3 could also be "Sátántangó" by Tarr Béla, with it's 7 hour length, in which sometimes nothing happens for hours.

    • @zinhoferraz13
      @zinhoferraz13 8 років тому +4

      great choice

    • @Rilumai
      @Rilumai 8 років тому +1

      TheGreatZiegfeld, is that you?

    • @threeblindchickens
      @threeblindchickens 5 років тому

      - Bajuszbá amazing movie but loads of things happen in it

  • @zedzoheb7947
    @zedzoheb7947 8 років тому +7

    No disagreement.. Finally I got to see 'The mirror' in number one position of a list.. Excellent list.. Best video so far..

  • @ChristianHernandez55
    @ChristianHernandez55 5 років тому +21

    Wow, Delphine Seyrig is in #2, #3 AND #4! Could she be the most rule-breaking female actress of all time? ;)

    • @palmereldritch7777
      @palmereldritch7777 3 роки тому

      She's in the top 5 at least.......though cult actresses is a stiff competition. There are plenty that never made a normal movie in their life - of if they did - the normal one was the odd one out. Any cult movie worth it's salt breaks three or four rules at a time. Hitchcock, Miike, Von Trier, Argento, Russell, Lynch, Godard, Antonioni, Resnais, they all obliterate(d) film rules film by film.

  • @gerardolozano5431
    @gerardolozano5431 5 років тому +8

    Paprika really breaks all the reality rules, even thought it's already an Animated movie. I deserved as thought maybe :) good choices, I was just waiting for Buñel to show up :)

  • @technodroog
    @technodroog 8 років тому +104

    excellent #1 choice

  • @dantebad
    @dantebad 8 років тому +5

    I wish i could give my thumbs up twice... a hundred times on cinefix. This list was just amazing. Beginning with my all time fav director Lars Von Trier and winning the pole my fav artistic director and film poet Tarkovsky. Kudos to Cinefix and plz keep doing lists like this. Godamn Watchmojo ppl must be so depressed right now.

  • @pierrebennu8430
    @pierrebennu8430 7 років тому

    this was awesome. Thank you for this. You threw some films at me that I hadn't watched since film school but could never remember the name. I sounded crazy trying to explain some of these to people over the years.

  • @amsn2723
    @amsn2723 7 років тому

    I would love it if you would do a video on general different types of film, like a macro view, eg noir etc , that would be super interesting and wonderful for an even fuller appreciation in context. your videos are great you guys have an incredible way of putting these concepts etc into words!

  • @srabeeh
    @srabeeh 8 років тому +4

    What possible reason can there be for the dislikes. Not mentioning your favorite director? This was well done, thanks for the Mirror reference I shall check it out.

  • @TheatreofSymphony
    @TheatreofSymphony 8 років тому +24

    The Tree of Life for me... Will never see a masterpiece like it

  • @gloriousleader3203
    @gloriousleader3203 7 років тому +11

    unlike watchmojo, you don't sound ugly when you pronounce french, and also are able to laugh when you can't pronounce it. props to you my friend.

    • @MiloMcCarthyMusic
      @MiloMcCarthyMusic 5 років тому

      glorious leader that’s because watchmojo is a company, they can’t “laugh at themselves” like a person can

  • @lwendzib7297
    @lwendzib7297 5 років тому

    Can't fully and properly express my love for this channel. Simply superb.

  • @willemverheij3412
    @willemverheij3412 7 років тому +42

    The Marx Brothers seemed to always break the rules in their paramount movies. When watching them it feels like the four of them where miscast in a serious movie and are wrecking it from the inside, with people going along with it.

  • @freddylubin
    @freddylubin 7 років тому +221

    I prefer the term "convention" to "rule".

  • @bluffchill2949
    @bluffchill2949 5 років тому +3

    The Mirror and Discreet Charm have always been my two favourite films. Fantastic list!

  • @stellameow4548
    @stellameow4548 6 років тому

    Why doesn't this video have more views? I learned so much and it's such an interesting list. Much love.

  • @kuspeofficial
    @kuspeofficial 8 років тому +4

    Awesome list! I watched 'The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie' for the first time just last week and couldn't recommend it more. Embarrassingly, I still haven't delved into Tarkovsky because his films are so hard to find on DVD/Blu-Ray in Australia, so I eagerly await the opportunity to finally view all of his works, especially 'The Mirror'. Keep up the good stuff! Cheers.

    • @billyjackson00
      @billyjackson00 8 років тому

      If you were to search youtube for The Mirror (and a couple other Tarkovsky films), you might be pleasantly surprised by what you found...

    • @kuspeofficial
      @kuspeofficial 8 років тому +1

      I realise the internet offers such resources although I like to physically own movies. Probably seems like an ancient ideal to most but thats a whole other debate.

  • @salimgarami5882
    @salimgarami5882 8 років тому +3

    You pronounce it "Jeanne Dielman, Vingt-Trois Quai du Commerce, Mille Quatre-Vingt Bruxelles."
    It's one of my favorite movies, glad to see it listed.

  • @stephenderry9488
    @stephenderry9488 5 років тому

    Good list. I used to watch a lot more classic and foreign language cinema when I was younger, you are re-whetting my appetite.

  • @UteChewb
    @UteChewb 7 років тому +2

    Sooo much goodness. Makes me want to watch a whole bunch of stuff. Well done.

  • @Anatolij86
    @Anatolij86 8 років тому +4

    You're still the BEST cinephile channel I know.

  • @haades33
    @haades33 4 роки тому +7

    Pretty good selection. Seen them all except for Tarantino's whom I stopped watching because of too much unnecessary violence.
    It's really hard to pick only one from Bunuel but it's hard not to include Phantom of Liberty.
    Two films that you have overlooked are:
    The Saragossa Manuscript (1965)
    and
    The Hourglass Sanatorium (1973)
    by Wojciech Has

  • @Luboman411
    @Luboman411 7 років тому +3

    I love "Tokyo Story", so glad that it's up on this list. Though you guys LOVE Tarkovsky. He's always at the top of your "serious" movie lists. And it's almost always "The Mirror". I really need to see him and his masterpiece now...

  • @johns123
    @johns123 5 років тому +1

    I was surprised that you guys had such a wide knowledge of cinema. Keep it up!

  • @crozraven
    @crozraven 8 років тому +115

    I would love to see Cinefix guys fight in screen junkies movie fights

    • @Arian545
      @Arian545 8 років тому +37

      Only if they had categories fitting for Cinefix like "best French New Wave movie" , just to mess with people..

    • @spooksmagee
      @spooksmagee 8 років тому +9

      Clint would be a good guy to send to movie fights imo

    • @FiSTofSTEeL112
      @FiSTofSTEeL112 8 років тому +26

      They would wipe the floor with the Screen Junkies people. The only person who even seems to have decent taste is Dan Murrel

    • @ArthurKnight1899
      @ArthurKnight1899 8 років тому +6

      lol! they stand no chance but Dan can argue with anyone and he seems a lot sensible than others there

    • @tatehildyard5332
      @tatehildyard5332 7 років тому +6

      Cinefix would deserve the win but the SJ people know how to shout and argue their way to victory.

  • @RaySquirrel
    @RaySquirrel 8 років тому +9

    Stan Brakhage.
    You don't get too far away from breaking all the rules of filmmaking than not even using a camera. He made hundreds of films which did away with notions such as dialogue, text, narration, sound, actors, even the very use of photography. He would paint, scratch, even paste dead plant and insect matter onto clear leader film. The man made over 400 films in his life ranging from 3 minutes to 3 hours. No one film of his encapsulates all of his techniques better than his 78 minute opus Dog Star Man.

    • @ffeffashgrove
      @ffeffashgrove 5 років тому +2

      But the question remains, why would anyone want to watch three hours of that?

    • @HP_____
      @HP_____ Рік тому

      @@ffeffashgrove Most of them are short films that some last only a minute like Mothlight.

  • @lisach5420
    @lisach5420 7 років тому

    I feel as though I have just taken a class! Thank you for teaching me and for making me consider some new concepts.

  • @danield230
    @danield230 6 років тому

    Great list, great observations and analysis.

  • @drewlflip
    @drewlflip 8 років тому +4

    This is one of the best channels to follow if you are a film buff. 2 Thumbs up

  • @GreatSmithanon
    @GreatSmithanon 8 років тому +45

    Tarkovsky has quickly become one of my favorite directors, ever since I saw STALKER.

    • @hentosama
      @hentosama 7 років тому +3

      GreatSmithanon yeah i love it!

  • @joshuafetter3831
    @joshuafetter3831 6 років тому

    You guys keep blowing me away with just how far reaching your cinema knowledge goes. It may have been a passing reference but the fact you mention The Great Train Robbery as an example of fourth wall breaking is awesome!

  • @shinygritsifter
    @shinygritsifter 3 роки тому

    Didn’t see that coming but like the way you frame it- MIRROR is one of my all time favorites

  • @Booth81
    @Booth81 8 років тому +3

    When you talk about dream logic in film, "John Dies at The End" comes to my mind immediately. That whole movie is like watching someone's dream, when you see how crazy and random some of the stuff is.

  • @markofsaltburn
    @markofsaltburn 4 роки тому +4

    “Viaggio in Italia”, “Stromboli”, “L’Avventura”, “La Strada”, “Amacord”, great Italian films that create their own narrative logic. Nicholas Roeg was as important as Tarantino in subverting our understanding of time in cinema. “Night of the Living Dead”, “Martin” and “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre” are genre films that are, in reality, each in a genre of one, the latter being, in my opinion, the most underrated film of any kind in the American canon.

  • @michaeldomeier
    @michaeldomeier 7 років тому +1

    I like how you give more international films a spot on your lists. Mostly French or Japanese but still. I love it.

  • @IVElmendorf
    @IVElmendorf 5 років тому +1

    Richard Linklater with Slacker is my favorite rule breakers! I mean the story as a whole fits so well, but it feels so random as it goes from each perspective with barely feeling like there is any break in the story line. Such a chaotic story but once it gets to the old man with the monologue on anarchy it all just feels like one story again. Also how everyone is slightly linked by friends or just passing by others focal point

  • @llongone2
    @llongone2 8 років тому +14

    How about the Hollywood film rule of: kids cannot be killed on screen. "Frankenstein" has that insane scene where the monster just tosses a kid in a pond and she drowns. If you go through horror movies throughout the last 80 years, there are very few movies that violate this rule.

    • @BadWebDiver
      @BadWebDiver 5 років тому

      It's getting a bit more flexible these days, but you are right that it seems fairly strictly adhered too.

    • @jimm7098
      @jimm7098 5 років тому

      Jaws does.

    • @flyingmonkeysstorytelling295
      @flyingmonkeysstorytelling295 5 років тому

      @@jimm7098 and Lady Macbeth...

  • @DungeonBricks
    @DungeonBricks 8 років тому +330

    I feel stupid for not knowing most of the films NAMED in this video.

    • @CaffeineRedSquirrel
      @CaffeineRedSquirrel 8 років тому +8

      Im with you buddy

    • @peddleandcrank
      @peddleandcrank 8 років тому +10

      don't feel stupid, no one ever heard of most of this junk.

    • @goomba4880
      @goomba4880 8 років тому +97

      You shouldn't. Just go watch them if you're interested. You don't need to watch every foreign or classic cinema film to be "smart".

    • @krustomer
      @krustomer 8 років тому +1

      Same. I think I knew one of the top ten.

    • @slimjones408
      @slimjones408 8 років тому +21

      Well if it makes you feel better I feel stupid knowing all the films haha

  • @guilhermeviana8131
    @guilhermeviana8131 7 років тому

    I love the content of this channel
    I love how you don't talk just about hollywood movies

  • @DonaldSimsProduction
    @DonaldSimsProduction 7 років тому

    Once again, your love of the art of movies equals my love of music. Thank you.

  • @Ryan-ws6rk
    @Ryan-ws6rk 8 років тому +3

    I liked the honorable mention of Schindler's List, although I would've put it on the actual list. Great video though!

  • @lorenbooker9486
    @lorenbooker9486 8 років тому +11

    Can you do a top 10 Cinematographers video, or a top 10 editors pretty please :D

  • @ByronDB
    @ByronDB Рік тому

    Oh, and I bought the Criterion version of The Mirror because of Cinefix, and how often it appears on your lists. Thanks. I hadn't heard of it before.

  • @frostebyte
    @frostebyte 6 років тому

    I haven't seen or heard any mention of The Big Short in any of your videos. If anywhere, I would have expected to see it here. Perhaps it's just not a favorite?
    Also, I love this channel so much and am extremely grateful to have a source of perspective as well as some evidence of shared understanding like what I see in the artistic medium of film. I believe there is merit and influence in every film, however much and in whatever form, and I believe you do too. That's kinda rare in this generation. Thanks.

  • @LTdrumma
    @LTdrumma 6 років тому +23

    The Discreet Charm of the Bourgeoisie is so sick. One of my favorite movies. So is L'Age D'Or

    • @yggdrasil9039
      @yggdrasil9039 4 роки тому +5

      That obscure object of desire is another one. Bunuel was a genius.

    • @johnatwell2753
      @johnatwell2753 4 роки тому +3

      And Un Chien Andalou...

  • @WalterLiddy
    @WalterLiddy 7 років тому +5

    #9 - I recall Godard himself denying that this was an artistic choice. He said it was necessitated by technical problems with the camera.

    • @HP_____
      @HP_____ Рік тому

      Intention doesn't matter. It's the perceived results of the viewing experience that matter. The viewer is not required to know every detail of the production. The fact Godard, at the time and being his first film, was willing to allow the technical problems to be shown is rule breaking already.

  • @moiseghmarian
    @moiseghmarian 4 роки тому

    Best channel for filmmakers, great jobs CineFix

  • @denken_dunken
    @denken_dunken 8 років тому

    Dogville. Wow, that film blew me away. As for Yasujiro Ozu (that's one I'm gonna have to check out), that just makes me think of Buffalo 66, the scene at the table, the bit where the guy introduces "his girl" to the parents.